I'm in Ultra/Note3/One Max keep changing my mind mode at the moment. Bought myself a cheap gel case for the Ultra off eBay to practice does it fit in my pocket scenarios lol.
Anyway, don't know why, but for some reason, I've always been fond of things like mega powerful or really small key torches. One of those things you feel like you should buy/keep handy just in-case even though you don't really need it. Must be the kid in me...
So, given the lack of flash... I was wondering how well taking low light photos would work using one of those mini (run on an AA battery) type torches with along with the phone. They typically sell for a few quid, attach to a keyfob etc. You can get even smaller single LED ones that run off button type batteries, but I'm assuming these would be too underpowered.
Would using an external LED torch result in images similar to an inbuilt 'Flash' (actually just LED, not really a flash...) or are there other factors that mean it just wouldn't be the same ?
How many lumens or whatever does a typical led flash pump out. Is the brightness controlled as part of the exposure process, or is it just switched on due to low lighting and exposure decided afterwards ?
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I'm in Ultra/Note3/One Max keep changing my mind mode at the moment. Bought myself a cheap gel case for the Ultra off eBay to practice does it fit in my pocket scenarios lol.
Anyway, don't know why, but for some reason, I've always been fond of things like mega powerful or really small key torches. One of those things you feel like you should buy/keep handy just in-case even though you don't really need it. Must be the kid in me...
So, given the lack of flash... I was wondering how well taking low light photos would work using one of those mini (run on an AA battery) type torches with along with the phone. They typically sell for a few quid, attach to a keyfob etc. You can get even smaller single LED ones that run off button type batteries, but I'm assuming these would be too underpowered.
Would using an external LED torch result in images similar to an inbuilt 'Flash' (actually just LED, not really a flash...) or are there other factors that mean it just wouldn't be the same ?
How many lumens or whatever does a typical led flash pump out. Is the brightness controlled as part of the exposure process, or is it just switched on due to low lighting and exposure decided afterwards ?
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A strobe light (light from your device) - Will use less power and will capture motion better, will have deeper and richer colours.
Always on lights - The good thing is, what you see is what you get. Using a torch or external power source, you'll know and see exactly what you'll be taking an image of. However you will also need to mess with ISO to capture an equal quality image as opposed to strobe. (motion blur)
- Using an app that can do this will require A LOT of time fiddling, and may lose the moment... But the end result could enable a better quality image.
If you can get a very bright external light source then it will be better than the LED on a phone.
Phone LED are about 50-70 lumen... hope this helps...
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Yes, Saw that.
So my question would be how would it compare to using a torch. Maybe with a diffusing material on it ?
By the way, plenty of cheap small waterproof torches around.
My main concern would be trying to take a photo with the giant Z Ultra with one hand and shining the torch with the other .....
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My main concern would be trying to take a photo with the giant Z Ultra with one hand and shining the torch with the other .....
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Don't think that would be an issue. We are talking small 1xAA torch, so torch is abot the size of your finger. Should be easy enough handle at same time as the phone if using both hands.
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Don't think that would be an issue. We are talking small 1xAA torch, so torch is abot the size of your finger. Should be easy enough handle at same time as the phone if using both hands.
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I'm not sure ... I have enough problems taking a photo one handed with my Galaxy Nexus you see ....
I'm probably going to get a Honami as well anyway , so the Z Ultra will probably not need to perform many camera duties anyway and it wouldn't be for very long.
It's better to use filter of camera then having weird torch with Giant Smartphone,i really disappointed with camera(also lake of led flash) but now i mostly use filter in low light conditions, just my experience.
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Do you like the light Sensor on Nexus?
I didn't like it.
It's a very good feature, but it works strange.
It is slow in dimming and took already not enough light to the display.
Nexusdisplay is dark dark dark...
Does anybody know, how to tweak this sensor?
Or am I the only one who dislike it very much?
I just set my brightness manually. Done deal.
Perfect.
In the Night I'll put my sunglasses on or at a sunny day I take my nexus blind...
Wherefor is the sensor if it don't work proper?
There must be some settings for...
I think the light sensor works great but it would be even better if we can customize it a little bit. Something like scale up the screen brightness for each level of external light.
Or something like auto lock when it is totally dark (you put it into your pocket?).....but that would cause trouble if you want to use your phone in the theater
I think the light sensor is terrible. I have tried everything but it still seems very finicky on when it will work properly. I regularly go from low light to sunny outdoors and having the feature would properly would be awesome, especially since it worked fine on my last 2 phones and they arent even close to being a superphone.
Trying to make it transition smoother is something I've been meaning to try. The settings for this are in the source tree at frameworks/base/core/res/res/values/config.xml (I override this in my passion vendor overlay). You can tweak the values and rebuild framework-res to try it out.
oh cyanogen, You Are GOD!
Where we can find it?
I've searched the whole framework.
ha he meant the source tree for framework provided by google. not in the framework-res inside of the zip of the rom you are using.
two things I noticed about it:
1 It dims and brightens too quick, it should take an average light level over a longer time period
2 Our fluorescent lights in the office at work seem to confuse it, so that could mean that the lens is too focussed and if you hit one of the lights it goes too bright, miss and it goes too dim as you move around and/or the wavelength of the lights confuse it - though this problem may be more bearable if #1 above is fixed.
I gave up using the sensor. I use the power strip. the 3 settings work great for me.
Ssantos6981 said:
I gave up using the sensor. I use the power strip. the 3 settings work great for me.
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Yea I mean why should it work? We only paid $530 for it ;/
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Yea I mean why should it work? We only paid $530 for it ;/
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Yes, these words are soooo true! They're absolut true.
And: It's not HTCs first device with such a sensor. It's not the first android Handset with such an sensor.
I can't understand, why they did such a thing!
@spyz88: I'll pray your words every time if i see this dumb dimming and flickering.
I too have noticed this problem, and have such, turned it off. Disappointing, yeah.
I hope someone can come up with some good idea/settings, to fix this like google should be doing already :/....
Thanks people
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Yea I mean why should it work? We only paid $530 for it ;/
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You can pay £30,000 for a car and things still don't work properly.
Nature of the beast I'm afraid.
OK, we can put our heads down in the sand or we can try to make us happier with it.
Does anybody tells google/htc that this is crap?
Probably we can make it on our own.
yeah it doesn't work very well. Maybe sensitivity needs to be lowered somehow
I hate to say this because I always talk crap about the iphone, but the iphone does have a better way to auto dim the screen with the sensor.
I thought I had a problem because from the get go I installed a screen protector that lays over the sensor, but now I see that other people have the same issue.
It is funny because I can have the phone in one place, but if I change the angle the screen will dim or brighten.
the worst thing is , it comes in the way of reading constantly on your phone , and after two to three cycles of dim/bright , you would eventually give up and disable it. disappointing .
but i think the problem is it samples ambient light with long interval , and then average it in a way that is always behind what it should be
This has bothered me as well and I've been looking for an easy way to fix it.
It seems that the light sensor (or its driver?) is to sensitive or inaccurate. The reported LUX value can fluctuate a lot in constant surrounding light. There is also the possibility that one waves a hand in front of the sensor which can produce undesired brightness changes etc.
My idea:
PowerManagerService.java (frameworks/base/services/java/com/android/server) listens for light sensor changes with a SensorEventListener. Either directly or after (config_lightSensorWarmupTime) a method called lightSensorChangedLocked is called with the sensor value as parameter. This method sets the brightness.
Here we can add some low pass filtering to the sensor value before calling lightSensorChangedLocked. Maybe a simple average of the last 5 values or so will suffice? Maybe take time into consideration as well. Say average 5 or all values received in the last 20 seconds or so. There sure are room for improvements of my suggestions.
My message is that the issue is perfectly fixable and PowerManagerService.java is the file to fix it in.
I'd like to share my thoughts on moving to the Titan from my Focus over this past weekend.
My I was one (as most here probably) that added a 32GB microSD card to my Focus. It has performed flawlessly over the last year that I have owned it with very few exceptions.
The main reasons I switched:
(1) Size matters - The 4.7" screen
(2) The build quality (so far) - The unibody aluminum build feels great in the hand
(3) The upgraded spec's (less the reduction of memory)
I should say that I do have a peeve on why Windows Phones (or any phone) don't have a microSD slot in today's world. In a world where your phone is going to be your "one in all" device, a memory card slot should be a no brainer.
Display:I was a little weary about moving from the SAMOLED screen to the S-LCD screen. Let me give you peace of mind on this one. This screen is absolutely beautiful. It doesn't have the deep blacks like the Focus but the other colors pop and seem more realistic. Also, my impression is that the display is more crisp than the SAMOLED.
Memory:As noted above, the lack of a microSD slot is really a shame for this phone. I'm going to live with it until someone cracks this baby open to confirm that it doesn't have a slot under the cover somewhere. But, alas, I heard rumors of this being a SS memory chip instead. On the bright side, this does make it run faster if it is a memory chip.
Build
The body on this is made of solid aluminum. The feel when it is in your hand is one that makes you know it was built with care. I know they stated in press releases that they are going to minimize this type of build in the future, I just hope they just remember to have enough real substance there to "feel" like quality and not plastic.
One note on the body. When removing the back cover to access the battery and sim card slot the ENTIRE aluminum case around the screen and everything comes off, too. So, you end up with two pieces. One that includes the screen and components, the other the aluminum casing. It was odd to remove it the first time.
There are more reasons like...
- notification LED's (i missed this from my Tilt2)
- battery life (woohoo! almost all day on a charge now)
- noise cancelling mic's
- faux 4G (you can tell the speed difference) [waiting to see about this throttling bit]
Things I don't like...
- Lack of accessories (come on Otterbox)
- With the larger screen, I wish I could update the number of columns from 2 to either 3 or 4. This phone has the space to do it and it would be a great update to have. (I know, this is OS and not phone but the screen size makes it an option now)
- The headset plug doesn't fit as far into the phone jack and so it looks like it's not plugged all the way in when it actually is. (maybe this is a preference instead that it go in until the jacket hits the phone)
One last thing about the size of the phone. The phone, surprisingly, is not that much bigger that the Focus. I was thinking going from 4.0 to 4.7 that it would be huge to hold in the hand but it really is a non-issue in general.
Anyway, I'm still transfering my goodies and reinstalling apps. Will post if anyon has any questions...
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My progression:
Old Junk -> Tilt -> Tilt 2 -> Captivate -> Focus -> Titan
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I'd like to share my thoughts on moving to the Titan from my Focus over this past weekend.
My I was one (as most here probably) that added a 32GB microSD card to my Focus. It has performed flawlessly over the last year that I have owned it with very few exceptions.
The main reasons I switch:
(1) Size matters - The 4.7" screen
(2) The build quality (so far) - The unibody aluminum build feels great in the hand
(3) The upgraded spec's (less the reduction of memory)
I should say that I do have a peeve on why Windows Phones (or any phone) don't have a microSD slot in today's world. In a world where your phone is going to be your "one in all" device, a memory card slot should be a no brainer.
Display:I was a little weary about moving from the SAMOLED screen to the S-LCD screen. Let me give you peace of mind on this one. This screen is absolutely beautiful. It doesn't have the deep blacks like the Focus but the other colors pop and seem more realistic. Also, my impression is that the display is more crisp than the SAMOLED.
Memory:As noted above, the lack of a microSD slot is really a shame for this phone. I'm going to live with it until someone cracks this baby open to confirm that it doesn't have a slot under the cover somewhere. But, alas, I heard rumors of this being a SS memory chip instead. On the bright side, this does make it run faster if it is a memory chip.
Build
The body on this is made of solid aluminum. The feel when it is in your hand is one that makes you know it was built with care. I know they stated in press releases that they are going to minimize this type of build in the future, I just hope they just remember to have enough real substance there to "feel" like quality and not plastic.
One note on the body. When removing the back cover to access the battery and sim card slot the ENTIRE aluminum case around the screen and everything comes off, too. So, you end up with two pieces. One that includes the screen and components, the other the aluminum casing. It was odd to remove it the first time.
There are more reasons like...
- notification LED's (i missed this from my Tilt2)
- battery life (woohoo! almost all day on a charge now)
- noice cancelling mic's
- faux 4G (you can tell the speed difference) [waiting to see about this throttling bit]
Things I don't like...
- Lack of accessories (come on Otterbox)
- With the larger screen, I wish I could update the number of columns from 2 to either 3 or 4. This phone has the space to do it and it would be a great update to have. (I know, this is OS and not phone but the screen size makes it an option now)
- The headset jack doesn't fit as far into the phone and so it looks like it's not plugged all the way in when it actually is. (maybe this is a preference instead that it go in until the jacket hits the phone)
One last thing about the size of the phone. The phone, surprisingly, is not that much bigger that the Focus. I was thinking going from 4.0 to 4.7 that it would be huge to hold in the hand but it really is a non-issue in general.
Anyway, I'm still transfering my goodies and reinstalling apps. Will post if anyon has any questions...
Cyber
My progression:
Old Junk -> Tilt -> Tilt 2 -> Captivate -> Focus -> Titan
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Congrats on your new phone
Have you noticed any ghosting on the screen or any lag in the OS/games ?
I have not noticed any ghosting or lag at this point. I've had it only a couple days now and will add some more apps tonight to test it some more. So far, though, I have been pleased with the phone.
Storage
You said you had a 32GB card in your Focus. What are you doing about your music/videos. I have a bunch of music that isn't in Zune Pass. Tried the Sky Drive option, but it isn't that great.
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You said you had a 32GB card in your Focus. What are you doing about your music/videos. I have a bunch of music that isn't in Zune Pass. Tried the Sky Drive option, but it isn't that great.
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I haven't yet decided on this. I'm not one to put my personal items in the cloud knowing it's not all that secure just yet (if it ever will be). So I'm manually manipulating what's on the phone vs not. It's tedious at times but until I know my data is secured enough [military encryption maybe?] then I may start doing it...
I switched too. I am missing my dark blue I used on my Focus. Can't unlock yet since Chevron has no tokens right now. If I can get screen capture, my color blue and unlock the internet sharing without that annoying AT&T notice I will be a happy camper.
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Congrats on your new phone
Have you noticed any ghosting on the screen or any lag in the OS/games ?
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I notice ghosting.
OP: Sounds like we have similar experiences making the same switch from Focus > Titan!
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I notice ghosting.
OP: Sounds like we have similar experiences making the same switch from Focus > Titan!
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Do you have a specific ghosting scenario that makes it stand out most? I can tet it on my Titan and see what I come up with...
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Do you have a specific ghosting scenario that makes it stand out most? I can tet it on my Titan and see what I come up with...
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It's actually quite simple: the full program list on a black theme should do it. When you scroll, the words quite clearly "stretch" or blur slightly, and they blur in the opposite direction (eg - downward blur when the font is moving up), which leads me to agree with those who call it "ghosting." It's subtle enough that someone could easily convince me that this is an "effect" and intended by the UI.
That said, I don't notice it one bit. I also don't notice any pixellation on the large screen and prefer the natural (eg - less saturated) colors of the screen as compared to the Focus.
All in all, the screen is beautiful and I have zero complaints.
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It's actually quite simple: the full program list on a black theme should do it. When you scroll, the words quite clearly "stretch" or blur slightly, and they blur in the opposite direction (eg - downward blur when the font is moving up), which leads me to agree with those who call it "ghosting." It's subtle enough that someone could easily convince me that this is an "effect" and intended by the UI.
That said, I don't notice it one bit. I also don't notice any pixellation on the large screen and prefer the natural (eg - less saturated) colors of the screen as compared to the Focus.
All in all, the screen is beautiful and I have zero complaints.
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I will +1 that!
I also upgraded from a Focus to a Titan.
I like everything about the phone (finally got LED notifications again, large screen, beautiful build, slim design, light weight, GREAT call quality, better reception so far, no more fingerprint smudges all over the back, love the sound-enhancer, and over-all faster).
The only thing that really gets me so far is the lack of an Super AMOLED screen. Putting it next to my Focus, the difference is so obvious. If this phone had a Super AMOLED it would be perfect...
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I also upgraded from a Focus to a Titan.
I like everything about the phone (finally got LED notifications again, large screen, beautiful build, slim design, light weight, GREAT call quality, better reception so far, no more fingerprint smudges all over the back, love the sound-enhancer, and over-all faster).
The only thing that really gets me so far is the lack of an Super AMOLED screen. Putting it next to my Focus, the difference is so obvious. If this phone had a Super AMOLED it would be perfect...
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DO you get led notifcations for sms? Thats what im missing from my titan
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DO you get led notifcations for sms? Thats what im missing from my titan
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I'll post about it once I get a text, still haven't gotten one yet
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DO you get led notifcations for sms? Thats what im missing from my titan
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I'll post about it once I get a text, still haven't gotten one yet
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LED notification for SMS and emails - isn't built in for WP7 yet. There are no apps either that can do it.
However, this is a requested and highly voted feature for next update. I think you guys should vote for it too!
Got my Titan yesterday. Wow. I haven't thought about touching my Focus since I powered up the Titan. I synced my apps and music and now I have 600megs free. :[ I'm really gonna have to trim some fat as that is just music and apps. Other than that the phone is awesome.
On a side note, there is a big difference in performance using older SIM cards. I have two Titans. I have a two month old SIM in mine. My nephew has a 1 year old SIM. His phone keep losing signal, and was unable to connect websites on multiple tries. I thought it was his phone, so I swap my SIM and everything was blazing. I'm getting another as the newest ones are slightly slimmer than mine.
Hope this helps you guys out.
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I can confirm the LED appears to only indicate power charging. Interesting about the SIM card. I'll see if my old one makes a difference.
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I also upgraded from a focus to a titan. But on my titan the camera button stopped working after <24 hours of use and I have to send it in to HTC for repairs. But even with the short amount of usage time (I used the phone almost exclusively as the power in my area had been out for four days) the build quality and speed were phenomenal. I was also surprised at how well the titan fit into various pockets and how the nice the screen was.
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I can confirm the LED appears to only indicate power charging. Interesting about the SIM card. I'll see if my old one makes a difference.
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LED also blinks on missed calls.
I think I didn't do any picture in low light with flash on which didn't make the red-eye effect on people.
I think it starts to really be an issue. I know there is software to remove the redeye effect, but it's definitely not the same as not having the red-eye to begin with. I didn't had this issue with the S2 that I still own.
What do you guys think? Do you find this red-eye an issue or not? Why didn't Nokia test this and just put the flash a little bit further away from the camera lens?
You have to put the flash a long way away from the lens to avoid red eye. But with LED flashes it's not such a problem as they can stay on long enough for the eye to settle down.
can you post an example?
Not a major issue for me. The ones I do get red eye issues, like you mentioned creative studio red eye fix works ok
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Ok, here are some examples:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wkz4k560m1zwm04/02gZfV5c27
Of course it's not a dealbraker, yes you can use creative studio, and it makes a good job removing them, but you end up with the corrected images in saved images, instead of camera roll, so it's not a very fluent user experience..
@gilesjuk so you're saying if they program the flash to stay on a little bit longer the red-eye effect won't be so noticeable? That would seem a quick fix for them to do, but for them to bother about this we have to say to them that this is really an issue for us...
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Ok, here are some examples:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wkz4k560m1zwm04/02gZfV5c27
Of course it's not a dealbraker, yes you can use creative studio, and it makes a good job removing them, but you end up with the corrected images in saved images, instead of camera roll, so it's not a very fluent user experience..
@gilesjuk so you're saying if they program the flash to stay on a little bit longer the red-eye effect won't be so noticeable? That would seem a quick fix for them to do, but for them to bother about this we have to say to them that this is really an issue for us...
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the only ways to avoid redeye is to move the flash so that light bouncing out of the back of the eye doesn't hit the sensor
red eye reduction is accomplished by making the subject's iris constrict to a pinpoint by either (1) pre-blindng them with a flash before taking the photo - this is typical for P&S red-eye reduction, or (2) if using an LED flash just have the flash come on a bit early to do the same thing. The iris reacts "slowly" by digital camera standards...
If you take multiple shots one right after the other with flash, only the first will likely have redeye - you could try just taking back to back shots ...
Is it just me or does the Z5 compact have a very annoying lug right after taking a picture?
I mean, I can pre-focus on something, lock the focus, but after I press the botton (or touch the screen) to take the picture, it looks like the phone quicky focuses again or measures the exposure again (or whatever it does). The result is that I always miss the moment, especially with children pictures or things that move faster.
This lug sometime is very short, sometime is longer. I tried different camera apps, I tried the Sport Program (which indeed makes it a little bit better if you choose also 8Mpx resolution) but it does not change: the lug is always there.
I have a Z5 compact rooted, with 32.2.A.0.253 and Androplus kernel 3.10.84-v36 (and security patch April 2016, unbeliavable Sony!).
Reading online, I saw several complains about that, I am afraid I need to live with that or sell the phone. Anyone managed to solve it?
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Is it just me or does the Z5 compact have a very annoying lug right after taking a picture?
I mean, I can pre-focus on something, lock the focus, but after I press the botton (or touch the screen) to take the picture, it looks like the phone quicky focuses again or measures the exposure again (or whatever it does). The result is that I always miss the moment, especially with children pictures or things that move faster.
This lug sometime is very short, sometime is longer. I tried different camera apps, I tried the Sport Program (which indeed makes it a little bit better if you choose also 8Mpx resolution) but it does not change: the lug is always there.
I have a Z5 compact rooted, with 32.2.A.0.253 and Androplus kernel 3.10.84-v36 (and security patch April 2016, unbeliavable Sony!).
Reading online, I saw several complains about that, I am afraid I need to live with that or sell the phone. Anyone managed to solve it?
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You should switch camera mode. Use different scenario, like children or sports. Or download timeshift burst and use that. Superior automatic is quite bad when you have to take quick photos
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You should switch camera mode. Use different scenario, like children or sports. Or download timeshift burst and use that. Superior automatic is quite bad when you have to take quick photos
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Thank you for the suggestion, but Timeshift burst can take pictures in low resolution only (max 1280x720px)
I tried also all different scenario, including children or sports, lag is still there.
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Thank you for the suggestion, but Timeshift burst can take pictures in low resolution only (max 1280x720px)
I tried also all different scenario, including children or sports, lag is still there.
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hey , have you tried to clear cache memory ? or use a third party apk to see if your lag is gone.. I don`t have this lag problem and i have 2 mounths with my z5c .. sorry for english !
Yes I tried what you wrote, it is even worse with 3rd party apk.
The lag is minimal but enough to loose the moment. Are you sure you do not have this problem? Have you tried to focus your finger and move it as soon as you click to take the picture? I can bet that your finger will be far away from the starting position in the picture, whatever settings you try in the app... Than do the same with another brand phone and the difference will be so clear and so annoying
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Yes I tried what you wrote, it is even worse with 3rd party apk.
The lag is minimal but enough to loose the moment. Are you sure you do not have this problem? Have you tried to focus your finger and move it as soon as you click to take the picture? I can bet that your finger will be far away from the starting position in the picture, whatever settings you try in the app... Than do the same with another brand phone and the difference will be so clear and so annoying
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yup , i tried earlier and everything is fine,, when you take a picture press and hold the buton and release it when you want to frezee the moment .. it will instantly take the picture.. no lag at all .. sorry for my english
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yup , i tried earlier and everything is fine,, when you take a picture press and hold the buton and release it when you want to frezee the moment .. it will instantly take the picture.. no lag at all .. sorry for my english
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It really does not work for me. It would be nice to have feedbacks also from some others Xperia phones about that.
Z1C to Z3C to Z5C user here. Sony stock camera have always lagged like hell. They supposedly finally "fixed" it with the X Performance, don't know if they're going to "fix" their older phones though.
I'm half hoping it has always been a pure software issue so that I might have the chance of getting a improved camera in a future update, but then again if that was the case then ****ing **** you Sony for not doing **** for so long, and "fixing" it only to sell the XP.
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Z1C to Z3C to Z5C user here. Sony stock camera have always lagged like hell. They supposedly finally "fixed" it with the X Performance, don't know if they're going to "fix" their older phones though.
I'm half hoping it has always been a pure software issue so that I might have the chance of getting a improved camera in a future update, but then again if that was the case then ****ing **** you Sony for not doing **** for so long, and "fixing" it only to sell the XP.
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I totally agree with you and I am afraid even Xperia X solved it. So saaad!
I wonder if such a fake and unreliable advertisement is legal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGqfFQdSbIw&feature=youtu.be
The Made by Google Twitter account confirmed the P3 does not come with a notification light! That's insane and takes away one of the great advantages that Android has over iOS. I can't tell you how many times I was unaware of messages and voice mail on my work iPhone because it doesn't give any indication of a missed notification.... For hours and even days!
This is unacceptable!
This really sucks. I have it configured to give me so much information with just a glance. They probably saved $0.01 per phone leaving it off.
They probably think we all want to use AOD to see our notifications! I've never used it myself, why, BECAUSE THE LED LIGHT WORKS GREAT! Good grief!!
Hopefully they moved the "blink" functionality to the AMOLED screen. There is really no need for a separate LED if they move that functionality into the screen. And preferably add the options that lifghtflow offers.
But knowing Google they probably just removed the feature altogether. It's sad that they can't add all of the options that the Nexus 5 had 6 years ago, which launched for half the price. And then they have the nerve to call it a premium device.
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Hopefully they moved the "blink" functionality to the AMOLED screen. There is really no need for a separate LED if they move that functionality into the screen. And preferably add the options that lifghtflow offers.
But knowing Google they probably just removed the feature altogether. It's sad that they can't add all of the options that the Nexus 5 had 6 years ago, which launched for half the price. And then they have the nerve to call it a premium device.
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If you remember, the Nexus 6 had one but it wasn't implemented by the factory. It took a tear down before it was found and a clever programmer figured out how to make it work!
It doesn't need one with an OLED display. You can display notification indicators on the display like you could with an led.
I am standing in front of the pixel 3 display and can confirm there is no notification led! Not even in the settings!
what happens with a missed call? does a flashing dot appear on a black screen?
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what happens with a missed call? does a flashing dot appear on a black screen?
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I don't know, but it's a terrible idea to remove the only way to see missed notifications without turning on the screen.
It doesn't need one with an OLED display. You can display notification indicators on the display like you could with an led
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Can you see the OLED display from a distance, and its colour to tell what type of notification it is? That's the advantage of an LED
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Can you see the OLED display from a distance, and its colour to tell what type of notification it is? That's the advantage of an LED
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I personally will not use the always on feature, so walking the screen will be my only way of seeing missed notifications. Just like the iPhone, Google is forcing you to interact with your phone the way they want, and leaving us without choice.
Passive notifications are no more. ?
This sucks. Its not a game changer but I do use led to see what I got, very useful
The usual reviewers aren't helping. Focusing on how pretty the phone is instead of functionality. I'm coming from an S5 which has a multi-color notification LED, SDcard slot, removable battery with durable lightweight removable plastic back, wireless charging, IR transmitter, headphone jack, unlocked bootloader with official lineage support, water resistance, and flat display with no rounded corners. For $1000+ the reviewers and consumers should expect and demand these features plus new stuff. Unfortunately most people don't know or care enough about the hardware or software. Never felt this bitter/unexcited about a $1000 luxury purchase before.
4 GB of ram and 128 GB of storage is not on par with the competition. Not sure why consumers are making excuses for all the shortcomings? I'm buying for stock android, camera, stereo front facing speakers, IP68, wireless charging, and a much faster chip than my current phone. They could easily make it 50% fatter and stuff a massive battery in it with a removable plastic cover with an elastomeric seal but they want us to buy a new one every year or two.
I'm nervously waiting to see if it can be rooted and flashed. If not, there's much better options for the same cost.
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The usual reviewers aren't helping. Focusing on how pretty the phone is instead of functionality. I'm coming from an S5 which has a multi-color notification LED, SDcard slot, removable battery with durable lightweight removable plastic back, wireless charging, IR transmitter, headphone jack, unlocked bootloader with official lineage support, water resistance, and flat display with no rounded corners. For $1000+ the reviewers and consumers should expect and demand these features plus new stuff. Unfortunately most people don't know or care enough about the hardware or software. Never felt this bitter/unexcited about a $1000 luxury purchase before.
4 GB of ram and 128 GB of storage is not on par with the competition. Not sure why consumers are making excuses for all the shortcomings? I'm buying for stock android, camera, stereo front facing speakers, IP68, wireless charging, and a much faster chip than my current phone. They could easily make it 50% fatter and stuff a massive battery in it with a removable plastic cover with an elastomeric seal but they want us to buy a new one every year or two.
I'm nervously waiting to see if it can be rooted and flashed. If not, there's much better options for the same cost.
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Pixel phones purchased direct from Google can all be bootloader unlocked in developer settings. It's easier than just about any other device. Root access will be gained shortly after the phone is released into the wild, and hopefully, Magisk can be used to pass safety net for Google pay. I totally understand your other concerns, but rooting shouldn't be one of them.
No LED totally sucks. I don't use AOD because of increased battery drain and increased burn in. So no way to see if there are notifications without picking up the phone. Weak battery was already bad enough.
I understand it's probably not the biggest deal in the world or anything but for me personally if the notification led is gone, I'm probably going back to Apple.
And this isn't the be-all-end-all reason, Google just seems less and less interested in truly making their devices/software unique and if it's going to essentially be the same thing as an iPhone, then I may as well just have an iPhone.
Kinda OT, but I have to say it's weird that the only other phone i've had that did AOD really good was the OG Moto X. I'll get used it on the P3. I really don't depend on it that much on my P2.... if a notification goes off, I usually hear it or feel the vibration first anyway. Rare are the times I'm spotting a led color "from across the room" lol..
I never have my sound on, drive a truck and use the notification light exclusively for notifications. Forcing me to pick up the phone (as with any professional driver) is ridiculous. Changing colors of the light allowed you to see exactly what or who the notification was from and very private. AOD is distracting and less informative. Makes 0 sense.
I've always used the notification led with my OG Pixel, so now I'm getting used to the aod.
My question for you guys is do you have aod turned on and is there noticeable battery drain from it or any other potential downside? Or do you have it where the aod only turns on from lifting the phone or double tapping?
I'm trying to pick what's the ideal way to go with this. I realize it'll probably be a personal preference deal, I've just never had an aod phone before. Thanks!
I thought that if notification comes in, screen flashes once in a while, but it doesn't seem to do that.