Hey guys what's this means?!
My battery is falling down automatically with no use!
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I am wondering about this faulty behavior because i am in 510 firmware with no extra apps installed
I had this issue with. 475 too.
Help me please if this is a hardware issue send it back for second time in this week!
Instead of i charged this phone two time totally when i am bought it.first time faulty drainage happened yesterday when i played some game and battery went to 80% then i went to sleep for half an hour and when i turn the phone on again,noticed to battery is lost to 30%!
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I noticed a faulty battery usage indicator on mine.
It happened 2 or 3 times, when I plugged the USB cable to the phone (other end connected to a PC or charger) and the phone LED immediately turned green and the battery indicator jumped from 60% to 100%.
Nothing happens if I re-plug the charging cable, the phone keeps saying it's fully charged. Even powering off doesn't help.
The 100% power won't drain faster but I noticed that when it goes to 30% the phone will shutdown because no more juice is inside the battery and the indicator will go back to less than 10% after re-plugging the power cord.
luisarn said:
I noticed a faulty battery usage indicator on mine.
It happened 2 or 3 times, when I plugged the USB cable to the phone (other end connected to a PC or charger) and the phone LED immediately turned green and the battery indicator jumped from 60% to 100%.
Nothing happens if I re-plug the charging cable, the phone keeps saying it's fully charged. Even powering off doesn't help.
The 100% power won't drain faster but I noticed that when it goes to 30% the phone will shutdown because no more juice is inside the battery and the indicator will go back to less than 10% after re-plugging the power cord.
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Is this happened even after new update for you?
Anybody else has similar issue like me?
i am so confused ? !
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babakmaham said:
Is this happened even after new update for you?
Anybody else has similar issue like me?
i am so confused ? !
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I'm using the build 14.1.B.0.471
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I'm using the build 14.1.B.0.471
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In your case i think that's better try it with latest firmware.maybe solved.
But for me,the story is different,unfortunately!
another Q has been busy in my mind. Why sony didn't used a better charger for this phone?! Charger has only 1.5 mA output power! For test, i am charging the phone now with s IV charger (2mA)
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babakmaham said:
In your case i think that's better try it with latest firmware.maybe solved.
But for me,the story is different,unfortunately!
another Q has been busy in my mind. Why sony didn't used a better charger for this phone?! Charger has only 1.5 mA output power! For test, i am charging the phone now with s IV charger (2mA)
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Higher mA output is not necessarily better.
Taking more time to charge is more gentler on your battery.
Pumping up the mAh to 2 or higher will improve the charging time, but the number of total cycle charges (i.e. life span of your battery) will go down and suffer.
Anyway, 3 hrs from empty to full is normal, right? Anything quicker is a quickcharger.
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Higher mA output is not necessarily better.
Taking more time to charge is more gentler on your battery.
Pumping up the mAh to 2 or higher will improve the charging time, but the number of total cycle charges (i.e. life span of your battery) will go down and suffer.
Anyway, 3 hrs from empty to full is normal, right? Anything quicker is a quickcharger.
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Ok.no problem dude.3 hours is good time charge for me,but i have another issue that is explained to you.my battery is falling down suddenly!i don't know what is caused for this behavior.see picture in this post!this is a normal drain after a couple of hours.but after one or more hours that is falling down suddenly to 40%! Without any usage.
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Ok.no problem dude.3 hours is good time charge for me,but i have another issue that is explained to you.my battery is falling down suddenly!i don't know what is caused for this behavior.see picture in this post!this is a normal drain after a couple of hours.but after one or more hours that is falling down suddenly to 40%! Without any usage.
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Good thing you included screenshots from GSAM, so that we have something to go on now.
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This tells me that you once had a phone that was efficient, so from the day you realised this drop in performance, scrutinize what settings have changed (inc app installation)
Remaining (last 15 min usage) 5:47
IF u continue using your device in the way you have done in the last 15 mins, you have under 6 hours left of battery power.
In the 15% discharge since fully charged (and since when GSAM started taking this data on your screenshot), 62.9% of power was used by screen.
Some conclusions can be drawn here.
As you mention, you were probably playing some games during the 4hrs and 11min the phone was turned on(from when it was fully charged and then unplugged), very likely during the latter stages than earlier from when the phone was fully charged.
I see your screen is set on DIM, and that it has been active for nearly one hour. Your display was on for 25% of the time since full charge, and that has only used up 15% of battery.
Whether it is games or video playback, screen will be on, and looking at the data there is nothing faulty. In another words, set at dim, 7 hours or so of continuous display on sounds about right..(1 hr already used plus 5:47 expected left)
Now, if your complaint is that if you turned your phone screen off and left it that way for a few hours, came back, then found massive power drain, again, a few conclusions can be taken.
It is a shame there is no screenshot of the app usage form the exact same period. But, If you left the game app open in the background, it is possible that power is drawn still, possibly if your phone is not sleeping properly. In another words, CPU usage for game is there even when not used.
Do you have stamina mode on?
Conclusion... Form GSAM data, there is nothing wrong.
Looking at the first screen capture in OP, as you say, drain happened when phone was not awake, and screen off. I can only conclude that there was an app(s) open at the time which had been still running. If the app(s) is not closed or hibernated properly, it can happen.
If your phone felt hot at that time, it confirms CPU usage.In another words something was left open. If it was cold, even though the phone had been off for a while, then it could be faulty battery calibration.
And next time you see this big drop in charge, take screen shots of GSAM from apps and system. We would know then for sure.
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Good thing you included screenshots from GSAM, so that we have something to go on now.
Remaining (Av.use) 18:51
This tells me that you once had a phone that was efficient, so from the day you realised this drop in performance, scrutinize what settings have changed (inc app installation)
Remaining (last 15 min usage) 5:47
IF u continue using your device in the way you have done in the last 15 mins, you have under 6 hours left of battery power.
In the 15% discharge since fully charged (and since when GSAM started taking this data on your screenshot), 62.9% of power was used by screen.
Some conclusions can be drawn here.
As you mention, you were probably playing some games during the 4hrs and 11min the phone was turned on(from when it was fully charged and then unplugged), very likely during the latter stages than earlier from when the phone was fully charged.
I see your screen is set on DIM, and that it has been active for nearly one hour. Your display was on for 25% of the time since full charge, and that has only used up 15% of battery.
Whether it is games or video playback, screen will be on, and looking at the data there is nothing faulty. In another words, set at dim, 7 hours or so of continuous display on sounds about right..(1 hr already used plus 5:47 expected left)
Now, if your complaint is that if you turned your phone screen off and left it that way for a few hours, came back, then found massive power drain, again, a few conclusions can be taken.
It is a shame there is no screenshot of the app usage form the exact same period. But, If you left the game app open in the background, it is possible that power is drawn still, possibly if your phone is not sleeping properly. In another words, CPU usage for game is there even when not used.
Do you have stamina mode on?
Conclusion... Form GSAM data, there is nothing wrong.
Looking at the first screen capture in OP, as you say, drain happened when phone was not awake, and screen off. I can only conclude that there was an app(s) open at the time which had been still running. If the app(s) is not closed or hibernated properly, it can happen.
If your phone felt hot at that time, it confirms CPU usage.In another words something was left open. If it was cold, even though the phone had been off for a while, then it could be faulty battery calibration.
And next time you see this big drop in charge, take screen shots of GSAM from apps and system. We would know then for sure.
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Special thanks for your great comment
Fortunately,that horrible battery drainage don't happened from yesterday to now.
This means there is no faulty behavior after last full charge that i have been!
I don't know that reason but i done some actions after fully charged phone yestarday:
1.instilling Gsam battery pro as you have seen!
2.Charging with another charger(2mA galaxy s4 charger)
3.setting screen brightness to 30%
4.setting off "optimized backlight"
5.battery calibration with "battery calibration" app
This new informations from my battery behavior after 19 hours fully charged at last day from now and i hope that horrible drainage wouldn't happen in future else!
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Newbie here - I have a stock G Tablet.
Have added many apps and also Flash and it is working great.
My one concern is that however long I charge the unit,
I can't get the battery indicater to go above 93%.
Is anyone else experiencing this ?
hello there,
yes i am having the same problem. no matter how long, mine can't get past the 95% mark. clockwork mod + tnt 2.2
ideas on how to fix this, anyone?
regards
Try to recharge with the device powered off, and let it charge for at least half an hour after the light turns green.
I've left it plugged in a good 2 to 3 hours after the green light came on.
It still only reaches 93%.
Is it a bad battery, bad charger, etc.,
Any thoughts... anyone ?
BluesTele said:
I've left it plugged in a good 2 to 3 hours after the green light came on.
It still only reaches 93%.
Is it a bad battery, bad charger, etc.,
Any thoughts... anyone ?
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Do a full cycle, all the way dead and then charge as stated for about 30 minutes after the green light comes on. It could be just a calibration problem. How long is the battery lasting for you?
I use it for short periods throughout a day, so it is difficult to gauge an accurate time.
A rough guess would be approximately 6+ hours.
I always thought it wasn't good to totally drain this type of battery ?
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BluesTele said:
I use it for short periods throughout a day, so it is difficult to gauge an accurate time.
A rough guess would be approximately 6+ hours.
I always thought it wasn't good to totally drain this type of battery ?
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I think this is a LiPo battery - if so, then its is OK to let it drain all the way - just don't do it too often. You should *always* do two full discharge/recharge cycles on any Lithium-based battery as soon as you purchase it, and again about every month or two.
For removable Lithium-based batteries (i.e. *not* for gtab!), if you aren't going to use the battery for, say, more than a week, the best thing to do is to discharge it to about 50% and then put it in the refrigerator. When you are going to start using it again, let it warm to room temperature for at least a few hours to a day (depending on how big it is), *then* put it on the charger. Absolutely do not charge the battery cold as the thermal shock could damage the battery.
The initial discharge/recharge cycles "primes the pump" so that you get the maximum capacity out of the battery (who knows how long the battery has been 'sitting on the shelf'), and the ongoing discharge/recharge cycles keeps the battery at its maximum capacity *and* allows the calibration electronics more accurately track the slow decline of the battery's capacity.
BTW, my gtab's battery lasted on-and-off for almost 2 1/2 days. That was 'sleeping' it at night (*not* turning it off!) and using it on-and-off wifi/surfing/playing AB during the day. I must say, the gtab's battery life is phenomenal!
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Do a full cycle, all the way dead and then charge as stated for about 30 minutes after the green light comes on. It could be just a calibration problem. How long is the battery lasting for you?
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Thanks. Tried the full discharge and then full charge with the gtab turned off, left for about an hour after the green indicator, but still stuck at 95%. Even deleted the batterystats.bin file. no change. must i do two cycles of full discharge and charge?
I'm having similar issues. I powered off my gtab overnight and let it charge for 8-9 hours and I have not been able to get the battery to say 100%. I'm going to leave it on all day and let it discharge completely and try again tonight.
Drained battery and left it charging overnight and while I was at work (15+ hours) and its still at 95%. I wonder if I should exchange it now.... I'll give it another week....
If you do two full discharge/recharge cycles and the battery is still not showing 100%, then I would take it back. Either it is the battery or the battery calibration electronics that isn't working (my bet would be the battery). Furthermore, since the battery is "not removable", its just not worth keeping it and taking the chance.
If the battery had been removable, then Viewsonic could have just sent you a new battery instead of having a whole gtab come back....
(Note for Viewsonic - this is where removable batteries are superior to non-removable!)
japhule said:
Drained battery and left it charging overnight and while I was at work (15+ hours) and its still at 95%. I wonder if I should exchange it now.... I'll give it another week....
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Before you return it check the actual battery life. If it turns out that it's just a calibration issue and if your happy with everything else, perhaps you should keep it.
Read the thread about my battery test...
mine is different... I can charge up to 100%, and keep using it for few hours at night, put it to sleep, then I wake up in the morning and find the battery completely drained... any1 has the similar issues??
chukostar said:
mine is different... I can charge up to 100%, and keep using it for few hours at night, put it to sleep, then I wake up in the morning and find the battery completely drained... any1 has the similar issues??
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You can try going to settings/applications/running services and turn off all non-essential services before putting it to sleep.
Mine doesn't get above 96%, will have to try the suggestions here but overall I'm still very happy with battery life of the 96%...
thanks, i'll definitely try that... but I don't think I have too much installed or services running since I flashed it with the new ROM.
have you guys notice your battery temperature? i got 2 gtab but both operating at different temperature 1 at 23-24 other is around 31?
My battery life seems pretty good even though it doesn't go higher than 95-96%. I saw in another thread to try resetting battery statistics in clockwork recovery to see if that will fix the battery display problems. I'm going to try that next.
I've got the Malata Zpad (SMB-1002-3G) and mine now wont go over 91% (happened on the 3rd day). It used to charge to 100% no problem for the first two days.
I did a recovery (format) when you press the power and volume up button, but that didn't seem to do anything (other than wipe all my settings and put it back to original factory settings of course)
I'm pretty sure the battery is fine, and lasts just as long, but it would be good to be able to reset the battery status.
PS: My Zpad is not rooted or anything. It's pretty much standard (just running Launcher Pro).
japhule said:
Drained battery and left it charging overnight and while I was at work (15+ hours) and its still at 95%. I wonder if I should exchange it now.... I'll give it another week....
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Do you have Clockwork installed by chance? If you do you can charge the battery all the way up and then go into clockwork and reset the battery stats.
Might help...
I've had my new HTC Amaze 4G for 4 days now and absolutely love it, what a great phone! The battery life is great (I'm careful with all my settings) and I'm only finding issues with the charging TIME.
It's the second time I've charged it and after noticing how excessively long it took the first time, I clocked it this time and it took 4 hours and 45 minutes. I used a charger that I've used on many other devices with no issues (5 volts 1 amp).
The battery level increases 1% every 3 minutes, which adds up to 5 hours. I calculated this both with the screen on and by averaging out over a longer period of time with the screen off. I also tried with the phone completely off and the results were the same.
I made sure there were no processes hogging up processor time or excessive RAM usage.
When I go into to "Settings -> About Phone -> Battery" Battery status clearly states: Charging (AC).
I have also read somewhere that this can possibly be set this way by design (possibly to prevent the battery from heating or overcharging and saving its life in the long run).
I also realize that the phone is new, and the battery needs a few charges to be settled, but 5 hours to charge on the second charge just seems like too much.
On the HTC product support website, on the faq there is the following question/answer:
How long should it take to charge my battery?
"Your battery can take up to 4 hours to fully charge using the AC charger. It will take much longer using the USB as that is the trickle charge function."
Can anyone out there with an HTC Amaze 4G confirm how long their phone takes to fully charge from the AC charger?
I'm thinking/hoping this is a defective device/battery/setting...I don't like having to wait 5 hours to have my phone fully charged.
Thanks in advance,
Filipe
Ok, I'd like to add one more thing. I finished charging the phone last night (about midnight), by the time I went to bed (around 2 am), after barely having used it, it was still at 100%, now at 9:30 am (7.5 hours later) the battery level is at 95%. I had everything off and very little background services and apps running. Even the network type, is only set to the basic, no data connection was live/standby.When I check the battery status/histogram this is what I get:
-44% went to Cell Standby
-42% to Phone Idle
-8% Display
-6% Wifi (I think I used it before I went to bed, but turned it off right then, and it remained at 100% battery)
I'm not too happy...this can't be right...it shouldn't take 5 hours to charge and discharge this fast? Can anyone shed some light please?
Thanks
Come on....anyone? Please? This is driving me nuts!!
Yeah that sounds about right. Don't complain man. Your battery life is pretty good compared to other devices. My device takes 3 hours to fully charge and can last 24 hours with minor use. Just charge it when you go to bed and you won't notice the time it takes
My desire hd takes almost as much (Around 3 hours) and my Optimus 3d prolly takes even more (5?) to fully charge from a full discharge...
(With Stock HTC/LG Charger. The HTC's AC Adapter is 5V/1A [Shouldn't that charge a battery in under 1 1/2 hrs?]. Not too sure about the LG)
They take Much longer to charge on Computer/Laptop USB Ports. The Optimus 3d actually loses battery while charging (With screen on) with a USB port.
Also, 5% a night is pretty good. My desire hd goes down 3-5% per night (2g, no data enabled.) or 0-1% with Airplane Mode. (Rooted, Revolution 6.31)
And my optimus 3d pretty much runs out of battery in <100 mins with full brightness while Playing Games - It goes down more than 1% per minute depending on the game being played, especially if 3d Converter is used. This is pretty much the same for all GB/Froyo ROMs.
Just charge it when you go to bed and you won't notice the time it takes
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I Agree. Both phones usually last around a day at least for me. You could always try a battery monitor such as GB Battery Stats or watchdog (The CPU One). CPU Intensive applications and Awake time during sleep are usually what cause bad battery life. Faster chargers such as 2A ones should also charge the battery faster, but they might reduce the overall battery life.
I would suggest buying a wall charger and cheap batteries from ebay. They last almost as long as stock batteries and cost only ~$2-4 each. [They apparently explode though. Never happened to me.]
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Both phones seem to charge from 0-90% much faster than 91-100% as well. I'm not sure why, since 100-90 wastes just as fast as 90-0. (Charging from 90%-100% battery practically takes a third of the full charging time)
many thanks
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Thanks for your feedback guys!
I just finished charging it this morning, and it's FASTER NOW!
Took exactly 2 hours and 37 minutes (Battery Moniter is a great app!).
I think it actually may be due to the phone having some sort of smart charging system which "looks after" the battery. Since the phone is new, it might be wanting to start it off with some slowww charges and gradually speed them up.
But I still have to narrow it down some more since this time I'm actually using the supplied cable and charger (the ones I tried before were also 5V/1A).
The cable I was using (had it for a while now) had a pinch or two, it didn't look that bad, but I'm thinking it could also be the cable (could be shorting)!
I'm gonna do some testing on this cable now and report back my findings!
Thanks again!
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Ok, so it actually turned out to be the cable. I really feel like a dumb ass...lol. Oh well, at least I figured it out!
So yeah, one good way to see if your cable / charger is good is to use Battery Monitor, and on the main screen where it says your device is charging (AC) and etc..it will also say the actual amperage (in mA) being fed to the battery...that number should be within the 500 to 750 range, if its lower, there is likely something wrong. (Mine was at 16...lol).
Thank you all for your help!!
Cheers!
can you explain to me more !!! i just had the phone and the battary run out like 5 hrs after ,,, what s about your cable-charger problem i didn t get your point !!! can you help me plz
mtarabichi said:
can you explain to me more !!! i just had the phone and the battary run out like 5 hrs after ,,, what s about your cable-charger problem i didn t get your point !!! can you help me plz
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My problem was the cable, and it was causing the phone to take five hours to CHARGE, not discharge.
These phones don't hold charge for too long, and the more activity you got going on, the more power it will consume. The screen hogs up the most power, so using the device constantly (especially with high intensity background light) will drain the battery very quick. First smart move would be to set the screen intensity to the lowest setting. Wi-fi and bluetooth, if you're not using them, shut them off. Open your task manager (or get a decent one from the market) and kill all the apps you got running in the background.
Games also require a lot of graphics/processing power, so naturally they will drain a lot of battery too.
Edit: There are some special cases where it could also be related to your network or even simply coverage zones exposed to the device. If it's stuck in a zone where it has weak 4g and 3g signals, it will keep bouncing back and forth causing more drain than normal on the battery as well.
If you've taken all these things into account, then you may have a defective device, then you will want to setup an RMA...or just take it back wherever you bought it and ask to exchange.
Hope this helps,
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My skyrocket takes about 3.5 hours to charge from 10% to full charge. If I plugged it in the car charger and run google map with the radio on the background, it would slowly drain the battery even though it was plugged in. My iphone 4 did not do this. It charges very fast and does not drain the battery even when I had several apps running in the background. I think the skyrocket consumes more power whether it is plugged in or not.
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My skyrocket takes about 3.5 hours to charge from 10% to full charge. If I plugged it in the car charger and run google map with the radio on the background, it would slowly drain the battery even though it was plugged in. My iphone 4 did not do this. It charges very fast and does not drain the battery even when I had several apps running in the background. I think the skyrocket consumes more power whether it is plugged in or not.
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Hi, what you need is a charger with a higher amperage rating than 500mA (or 0.5A). Buy a charger that is rated for 5V/1Amp like this one and your problems should go away.
The phone is basically "burning" more energy than it is receiving from the USB charger, hence the discharge.
To know the amperage rating of your charger look on the label for numbers that look like "5V/500mA"...
Hope this helps,
Cheers
EDIT: The link I provided does include an iPhone cable, but I'm just referring to the charger itself, the cable would obviously have to be a micro-usb.
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thread moved to...mexico?
Most illegal threads are trying to move from Mexico.
But, you need a charging source more powerful then the base 500ma, (or whatever that term of measurement is) computers are only supposed to supply 500ma to a USB port so AC adapters are typically better for charging. But feel free to follow the post above and check the rating on the charger.
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i just got my amaze, and i have auto sync off and screen on dim and it still takes for everrrrrrr to charge.. ive used a few different chargers and cords but i just got the phone so maybe after a few charges it will speed up? not sure my mytouch 4g never took this long although it would get verrrry hot
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i just got my amaze, and i have auto sync off and screen on dim and it still takes for everrrrrrr to charge.. ive used a few different chargers and cords but i just got the phone so maybe after a few charges it will speed up? not sure my mytouch 4g never took this long although it would get verrrry hot
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Well the amaze does have a hefty battery, mine is charging a bit faster than when I first had it
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rich2thad said:
i just got my amaze, and i have auto sync off and screen on dim and it still takes for everrrrrrr to charge.. ive used a few different chargers and cords but i just got the phone so maybe after a few charges it will speed up? not sure my mytouch 4g never took this long although it would get verrrry hot
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Make sure to use the original charger and cable that was supplied to you by T-Mobile/HTC
I noticed the 12-pin cable is faster than the 5-pin.
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Ok, I'd like to add one more thing. I finished charging the phone last night (about midnight), by the time I went to bed (around 2 am), after barely having used it, it was still at 100%, now at 9:30 am (7.5 hours later) the battery level is at 95%. I had everything off and very little background services and apps running. Even the network type, is only set to the basic, no data connection was live/standby.When I check the battery status/histogram this is what I get:
-44% went to Cell Standby
-42% to Phone Idle
-8% Display
-6% Wifi (I think I used it before I went to bed, but turned it off right then, and it remained at 100% battery)
I'm not too happy...this can't be right...it shouldn't take 5 hours to charge and discharge this fast? Can anyone shed some light please?
Thanks
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Sounds about right. If you want better battery life either root it or buy another battery.
To get really good battery life ?...you got the wrong phone man.
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I've had my Titan for nearly 5 months now. I am hoping Titan's battery isn't that crap as I think. However, since last 1 week what I've seen is my LED goes green to indicate that my phone is charged. It shows 100% in battery saver menu. However, if I restart my phone while it's plugged in the charger even after green LED, then after the reboot my battery is down to 89-91% mark. Either the battery calibration has gone wonky or the LED doesn't recognise the real battery levels.
It would really help if anyone who charges their phone during the coming week, could restart their phone while plugged in as soon as you see green LED and then see if anything changes in your battery stats?
I've noticed my phone does last an hour or two longer if I charge after this reboot till it's 100%. It could well be a placebo effect for me. But might help if others see the same too.
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I've had my Titan for nearly 5 months now. I am hoping Titan's battery isn't that crap as I think. However, since last 1 week what I've seen is my LED goes green to indicate that my phone is charged. It shows 100% in battery saver menu. However, if I restart my phone while it's plugged in the charger even after green LED, then after the reboot my battery is down to 89-91% mark. Either the battery calibration has gone wonky or the LED doesn't recognise the real battery levels.
It would really help if anyone who charges their phone during the coming week, could restart their phone while plugged in as soon as you see green LED and then see if anything changes in your battery stats?
I've noticed my phone does last an hour or two longer if I charge after this reboot till it's 100%. It could well be a placebo effect for me. But might help if others see the same too.
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The calibration is a little wacked. Here is my example - i charge it for 5 hours and it says 100%... but it only lasts about 7 hours and i can tell throughout the day that it drains faster. If i charge it for 8 i get closer to 13 with heavy web and game use. At 5 hours it turns green also ... but it seems as though it still charges more when left plugged in longer.
Some apps also like wp7 news clips off about 1 to 2 percent battery everytime i run them. (it brings in feeds from 20 different websites (estimate, i didn't count) so it's worth it but i check it a lot.
Could be wrong but as far as im aware that over charge protection. Your phone shouldnt really be charged 100%. 90-95% should be the sweet spot. Generally when i first noticed that i used to restart the phone and charge it to 100% but my battery life actually got less than just letting the phone decide when its enough
My titan has recently been getting more and more life from the battery; upwards of two days. I turned off wifi and I got 4 days 4 hours, died just some hours ago (I don't game much, but I do listen to music).
I've been getting into the habit of charging it when it gets below 5%, not every night like I used to. So it'll be 30% at night sometimes, and it'll last me another day with light/average usage (as opposed to my previous mindset where anything below 50% is a no go).
It might not work to leave till last 5% especially for someone like me who travels a lot. Don't you fear at times that your phone might faint when you really want to use it? As soon as my phone goes in battery saver mode I plug it in. Maybe that 90% limit as a reason. Over riding it helped me but if I did not over ride the following cycle then my battery performance seemed awful! Very strange working indeed.
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If I plan on using it AND I know I'm going out where there is potentially no USB to charge with, I bring my portable USB battey charger and/or one of my other phones. However, I don't mind not having a phone with me at all times, so if it dies, it dies. Still, I just got it to last 4 days, so if you don't watch videos or play games frequently, charging every three days is unheard of for a smartphone!
The battery's health relies on charging it properly, and I value keeping this up over having it charged when convenient for me. Battery saver kicks in at 20% I think, and with battery saver, you'll get almost another day with light usage, so charging when battery saver turns on is probably really hurting your battery.
I generally unplug my phone when I notice the LED turns green (even if I'm going to bed for the night I'll unplug it). I have never had such amazing battery life with any other phone, but I also have never taken such lengths to improve battery life either.
Why don't you pick up a brand new HTC Evo 3D battery off eBay or something and use that? Its a 1730mAh battery compared to Titans 1600mAh and works fine in the Titan.
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Deep discharging a Li-Ion is worse for it than frequent charging. Temperature also is very important and I haven't noticed the battery get hot when sitting on the charger after the light turns green.
Hi everyone i have been using wifi 5.0 about 3 months now it satisfied me enough and i am sure will continue. But the only issue which makes me unhappy is when i am gaming or using gps battery finishes rapidly. I would like to learn when to charge the device is 25% ok and when i am using it on charge even when its full is it bad for the battery life?
Yes you should unplug it when it gets full.
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durukankurum said:
Hi everyone i have been using wifi 5.0 about 3 months now it satisfied me enough and i am sure will continue. But the only issue which makes me unhappy is when i am gaming or using gps battery finishes rapidly. I would like to learn when to charge the device is 25% ok and when i am using it on charge even when its full is it bad for the battery life?
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don't leave it on the charger longer then 20-30 minutes after it reaches 100%, any longer can be damaging to the battery if done repeatedly.
Wish these chargers were more like the motorola ecomoto chargers that cut off charging automaticaly once the battery hits capacity.
daniel644 said:
don't leave it on the charger longer then 20-30 minutes after it reaches 100%, any longer can be damaging to the battery if done repeatedly.
Wish these chargers were more like the motorola ecomoto chargers that cut off charging automaticaly once the battery hits capacity.
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Thank you for your answer but every time i am charging it over nights i am always turning it off and go to sleep what i want to say i cant wait to be 100% then sleep is there any app to stop charging when its fully done. And isnt it ok while gaming o keep the charger cuz u know after playing 1 hour of fifa12 battery nearly going dead? thanks again.
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Yes you should unplug it when it gets full.
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So you mean this devices are not made for using on charge like laptops?
durukankurum said:
Thank you for your answer but every time i am charging it over nights i am always turning it off and go to sleep what i want to say i cant wait to be 100% then sleep is there any app to stop charging when its fully done. And isnt it ok while gaming o keep the charger cuz u know after playing 1 hour of fifa12 battery nearly going dead? thanks again.
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stopping charging has to be done within the charger itself, so no there is no app that can stop it, plus apps couldn't do anything when the device is powered down anyway.
An hour of a game kills your battery? I can play atleast an hour probably closer to 2 of angry birds and thats from less then 30% and i'm on the 4.0 player which has a much smaller battery, sounds like you've got some battery drain issues to work thru.
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stopping charging has to be done within the charger itself, so no there is no app that can stop it, plus apps couldn't do anything when the device is powered down anyway.
An hour of a game kills your battery? I can play atleast an hour probably closer to 2 of angry birds and thats from less then 30% and i'm on the 4.0 player which has a much smaller battery, sounds like you've got some battery drain issues to work thru.
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yeah u are right about apps no way any app to work when the device off.
I mean maybe 1h and 20 min. with 50% brightness on and i guess fifa use more data than angry birds when ur playing.
anyway its important to know that i shouldn't keep charger on when its 100% because usually when i am home i was using it like that thanks again.
do u think the app called 'sense analog' may make the battery life shorter.
Something is definately wrong, because I can play MC3, which is even more intensive the FIFA on my Gplayer 4.0 for more than 1.5 hours and still have some life left, and the Gplayer 4.0 is only rated for 4/5 hrs and yours is rated for over eight!
After a full recharge, while still plugged in download battery calibration from the market, and follow it's instructions, after you do, while STILL plugged in, reboot. After a full reboot, unplug it, and DO NOT REBOOT until your gplayer completely dies (forces shutdown). Once that occurs, plug it in, let it charge to 100% (while on), leave at 100% for about 15 minutes, unplug, and use as normal. That should fix your issue, unless your battery is dying, which should not occur, even if you are abusing it badly, for awhile longer.
durukankurum said:
yeah u are right about apps no way any app to work when the device off.
I mean maybe 1h and 20 min. with 50% brightness on and i guess fifa use more data than angry birds when ur playing.
anyway its important to know that i shouldn't keep charger on when its 100% because usually when i am home i was using it like that thanks again.
do u think the app called 'sense analog' may make the battery life shorter.
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haven't seen the 5.0 screen in person but if the brightness levels are anything like the 4.0 why do you have it so high? My brightness is at like 15-20% with autobrightness OFF.
First, like many others already said, it sounds like something is wrong with your battery. I'm on a 4.0 and playing two hours of a really intense 3D game with auto-brightness indoors will bring the battery from 100% to 50% (maybe it even uses less battery).
Second, as to how to conserve battery life, Rule #1 (as others have said): definetely do not keep it plugged it at 100% for too long. Then, something I tried on my iPod and have been using ever since: keep the battery between 50% and 100%, and once a month, completely empty the battery (until it shuts down) and after that charge it to 100% (this is called a charge cycle). As to my iPod's battery, before I was using this, the battery life got shorter and shorter, but after, it didn't shorten noticeably anymore. On the computer I'm writing this on, for a couple of months, I barely followed this plan, and I lost about 5% of my battery capacity (I have a battery widget that tells me what the total capacity is) within one or two months, but then I started following it a little more closely, and actually got some of it back. Over six months later now, I have lost about 10% of my battery capacity (from the original capacity), except that I should do a charge cycle in the next couple of days, and the last time I did a charge cycle, I got about 5% of the original capacity back, not to mention I have broken rule #1 probably too often and for way too long, often for several hours
My 5.0 can play games for hours before it dies but it has strange batery levels..From 100% to 75% it goes very fast.around 40 minutes when you play game..and then on 75% it stays there for 2hours when you play game and with regular use it can stay all day on 75-70% ..after that it fastly drops to 25% and just when you thing you need to recharge it can stay on 25% forever..you can play 2 more hours of game on 25% or with lighy use it will stay all day on 25%.
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stopping charging has to be done within the charger itself, so no there is no app that can stop it, plus apps couldn't do anything when the device is powered down anyway.
An hour of a game kills your battery? I can play atleast an hour probably closer to 2 of angry birds and thats from less then 30% and i'm on the 4.0 player which has a much smaller battery, sounds like you've got some battery drain issues to work thru.
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This is not correct. NO modern device has ANY smarts in the external charger - nearly all current phones (and every smartphone on the market for the past 3-4 years) has a constant voltage 5.0 volt USB input. Modern "chargers" are not chargers at all - they are dumb 5 volt power supplies, nothing more.
Charging "smarts" are handled by electronics in the device itself and have been for ages. (For all practical purposes, the Player 5.0 is a Galaxy S smartphone minus the cell radio...)
The kernel and charger hardware automatically handle charge termination and restart themselves. This is, for example, why Daily Driver can charge at higher current levels than stock at low battery (but drop the current as the battery reaches nearly full in order to stress the battery less).
Oh, as far as battery percentage display - the method used for estimating state of charge on the Players is abysmally primitive and highly inaccurate.
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I always charge my completely standard YP-G70 overnight. As I understand it, the charger only provides voltage and in this case it's 5vdc. The device's battery management software draws the required current to charge the battery. If you install 3c's "Battery Monitor Widget Pro" you can see a charging graph showing the current levels drawn over the full period of charging. The charging current is stepped to control battery temperature and is reduced as the battery approaches full charge. By the time the battery reaches full charge the current draw is down to a trickle charge and will not overcook the battery. I usually leave the device switched on, which further protects it by maintaining a small load. One of the problems I have found with this device is that this charging regime, along with the fairly large capacity of the battery, mean that the battery can take up to six hours to fully charge, which confirms, in my view, that overnight charging is OK.
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Something is definately wrong, because I can play MC3, which is even more intensive the FIFA on my Gplayer 4.0 for more than 1.5 hours and still have some life left, and the Gplayer 4.0 is only rated for 4/5 hrs and yours is rated for over eight!
After a full recharge, while still plugged in download battery calibration from the market, and follow it's instructions, after you do, while STILL plugged in, reboot. After a full reboot, unplug it, and DO NOT REBOOT until your gplayer completely dies (forces shutdown). Once that occurs, plug it in, let it charge to 100% (while on), leave at 100% for about 15 minutes, unplug, and use as normal. That should fix your issue, unless your battery is dying, which should not occur, even if you are abusing it badly, for awhile longer.
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I downloaded the app but its not working i am going to charge my device like the way u said, thank u for ur advises
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This is not correct. NO modern device has ANY smarts in the external charger - nearly all current phones (and every smartphone on the market for the past 3-4 years) has a constant voltage 5.0 volt USB input. Modern "chargers" are not chargers at all - they are dumb 5 volt power supplies, nothing more.
Charging "smarts" are handled by electronics in the device itself and have been for ages. (For all practical purposes, the Player 5.0 is a Galaxy S smartphone minus the cell radio...)
The kernel and charger hardware automatically handle charge termination and restart themselves. This is, for example, why Daily Driver can charge at higher current levels than stock at low battery (but drop the current as the battery reaches nearly full in order to stress the battery less).
Oh, as far as battery percentage display - the method used for estimating state of charge on the Players is abysmally primitive and highly inaccurate.
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First of all thank you for this valuable information, thus I can keep my device on plug while i am driving and using gps otherwise on long distance its annoying to keep checking the battery while driving with gps app on.
Other think is i guess its normal but just to ask, The device becomes really hot on charging while i am gaming. What do u think?
Is there an app that takes time of your battery like today I turned on at lets say 7:00am and the battery dies at 9:00 and you forget the times but the app says how long it lasted. Is there some app like that?
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3c's "Battery Monitor Widget Pro" gives all the battery information you could ever need. A data log and graphs allow performance to be analysed over any period of time. You can set markers to indicate charger plugging and unplugging times. Hope this helps.
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durukankurum said:
First of all thank you for this valuable information, thus I can keep my device on plug while i am driving and using gps otherwise on long distance its annoying to keep checking the battery while driving with gps app on.
Other think is i guess its normal but just to ask, The device becomes really hot on charging while i am gaming. What do u think?
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Off course it will be hot..you play game which hots cpy and gpy and at same time you recharge batery which hots battery..but if battery reach 50 degrese celsius player automaticly stop recharging no matter whow much battery is full.
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durukankurum said:
Other think is i guess its normal but just to ask, The device becomes really hot on charging while i am gaming. What do u think?
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Gaming = CPU and GPU cranking at full tilt with the display on - of course it's going to get warm.
I was interested in seeing what my charge times were using the official charger and cable so using accubattery i checked the charge logs ranging from 10-40% to 100% and they were longer than what the guidelines stated. Phone did state that supercharging was active, had two thunderbolts on battery as well as the bubble animation (i wish this could stay on permanent )
When i bought the phone, charging from 20% to 100% took 1h 50m
and then in about a months time...
Charging from 10% to 100% took 2h 34m
Charging from 32% to 100% took 2h 11m
These were all with screen off, do not disturb turned on and wifi on. The charging time is not THAT big of a deal as i'm always charging it at night but i'd like to actually recieve the speeds that were promised. Using ampere i never saw the current surpassing 2000mah sub 10% (i don't expect it to supercharge as the battery is nearly getting to 100% in order to prolong the longevity of the battery) and they would fluctuate down to 600-700mah a lot of the time.
So i contacted huawei support and the advisor agreed that the charge times i told him were longer than they should be so i've sent my charger (along with the cable) for repair. It's currently at their repair centre so i've not had a diagnosis yet on what the problem is, it could be the phone having issues for all i know!
I wanted to know if anyone else has been keeping stats on their charge times and whether you are getting times similar to me or slower/faster, would be interested to hear!
Do you have the double lightning symbol? If not, turn off your charger for about a minute and try again?
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Do you have the double lightning symbol? If not, turn off your charger for about a minute and try again?
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Cmon man, it's one of first things I mentioned lol...
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Difficult to say if there's any hardware issues, the repair centre will find it if there is one though.
Your charging times do seem a little high but its also difficult to compare a new phone to one that's been in use for a while, as there will be more apps running and drawing power etc than on a clean phone. Over 90% charge the charging rate will drop as you said, but that's not the only thing to affect it, temperature has a big impact...hotter charges slower.
Measuring mAh on the phone is therefore only a guide and shouldn't be used to prove slow charging etc. (e.g. if I have my satnav app, bluetooth & mobile data all on, then even using my supercharger, the charging rate shown by the phone sometimes drops to under 400mAh and even into negative figures if the phone is hot)
0% to 100% should be about 90mins in perfect conditions, but I'd be surprised if anyone got regularly near that sort of timing.
Got my charger back 2 days ago and today i deliberatly ran my battery down to 9% to see how charging would go. For the first time since recieving my charger back i've gotten a steady 4000mah. 9% to 72% (+2400mah) took 55m which is much better than the 2hours+ it took last time to get a +2600mah charge before. So yeah, if you're noticing similar speeds, contact huawei and see if you can send it in!
Mine charges from 18% to 100% in just an hour and 10 minutes.