4.3 Coming to Galaxy S4 in October! - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4

The Note 3 was launched today,
and confirmed 4.3 on it.
4.3 will come to other devices this October.
Hopefully this helps with the bootlader exploit.

JaeKay said:
Hopefully this helps with the bootlader exploit.
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Probably the opposite - it'll be locked down tighter.

Noremacam said:
Probably the opposite - it'll be locked down tighter.
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Well i hear it's kinda different with 4.3. Like rooting and stuff. So hopefully, stuff changes
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Fat chance of any opportunities to unlock. We can always hope.

Cant wait for the note 3, the hands one video looks killer.

I just worried the battery life might be worse than the note 2. Bigger screen higher resolution but almost the same battery..
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Maybe we'll get a Verizon pre-release leak of it which will also have an unlocked bootloader...
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Did anyone see a Dev edition note 3 announcement yet? Needs it & Wants it.
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Dubbsy said:
Did anyone see a Dev edition note 3 announcement yet? Needs it & Wants it.
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Ditto

Something new to dream for.

JaeKay said:
Well i hear it's kinda different with 4.3. Like rooting and stuff. So hopefully, stuff changes
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i'm on the s3 and running slimbean which is on android 4.3. you have to go to the developer option then enable ADB + ROOT APPS, or something of that nature, to install supersu. just fyi

speaking of 4.3, what do you guys think is meant by "lower latancy in input for gamepad buttons and joysticks" means?
It is mentioned in this droid life article.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/07/24/a-look-at-whats-new-in-android-4-3/
It also has other 4.3 features to (hopefully) look forward to

I will stay on ME7 and have update apks frozen with TB. I like using Flash and 4.3 is not too Flash friendly. 4.2 is better with Flash. ME7 works great, good battery life and amazing low battery bleed in sleep mode. This may have more to do with resource hungry stock apps being frozen, but still completely happy with ME7. No desire to rock an already fine boat, IMO.

Most likely to the international version in October. And months later in the US.
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I just worried the battery life might be worse than the note 2. Bigger screen higher resolution but almost the same battery..
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I'm not clear on what you mean by this. Are you saying the Note 2 had bad battery life to begin with or that a similar size with higher specs all around might make it less enduring? I'm assuming you mean the latter since in my experience the N2 had the best battery life out of any phone I've had.
In any event I think that even though battery tech isn't advancing at near the rate that the other hardware is (meaning typically bigger batteries, not better), I believe that it is advancing to some degree and that the software itself is being tailored towards improved longevity. Each iteration of Android has yielded improved battery life and I've read here and there that 4.3 has some optimization software-wise that improves on battery life.
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zerofighter1 said:
I'm not clear on what you mean by this. Are you saying the Note 2 had bad battery life to begin with or that a similar size with higher specs all around might make it less enduring? I'm assuming you mean the latter since in my experience the N2 had the best battery life out of any phone I've had.
In any event I think that even though battery tech isn't advancing at near the rate that the other hardware is (meaning typically bigger batteries, not better), I believe that it is advancing to some degree and that the software itself is being tailored towards improved longevity. Each iteration of Android has yielded improved battery life and I've read here and there that 4.3 has some optimization software-wise that improves on battery life.
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I think hes worried going from 720p to 1080p without much of change to the battery

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I think hes worried going from 720p to 1080p without much of change to the battery
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yea, i know note 2 had a great battery life, and im just afraid that with only a 100 mah boost, it might be slightly worse with the bumped up resolution and specs

Be aware, typically the Verizon release will trail 3-6 months of the international release. Not always, but almost always...

Why would they even bother getting 4.3 on it? Why not put any and all resources to getting 4.4 on the S4 since it is the flagship right now?

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Why would they even bother getting 4.3 on it? Why not put any and all resources to getting 4.4 on the S4 since it is the flagship right now?
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Uh because 4.4 hasn't come out yet. The only thing we know is the name. There's no release date or anything else. That's why.
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Make jump ship in March or April

First off I would like to say I love my DNA from a hardware point of view. Everything about this phone's hardware is awesome. Secondly I don't mind sense. The problem comes in when Verizon gets in involved. With this being a Verizon only device Verizon has almost complete control. I want an unlock able bootloader and SD card slot, Google wallet and the other features Verizon left out form the J Butterfly. Because of this I may, still a possibility, sell this phone for either the M7 or the Samsung s4 depending on their specs. The main reason is these phones will be multi carrier devices with much more likely hood to receive updates and dev... Otherwise the DNA would be a perfect phone.
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I'm kinda in the same boat. I'm really considering selling this and getting the moto x phone when it comes out.
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The X phone and the S4 sound tasty.
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The X phone and the S4 sound tasty.
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you guys are funny.
M7 99% isn't going to be unlockable on ATT or VZW without exploit. And if you import it, likely won't support all the bands we need.
Wanna place bets on the X phone being locked down?
Sorry verizon snuck into your home in the middle of the night and took away your sd card slot and google wallet. My phone happened to ship that way, so I don't mind as much.
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you guys are funny.
M7 99% isn't going to be unlockable on ATT or VZW without exploit. And if you import it, likely won't support all the bands we need.
Wanna place bets on the X phone being locked down?
Sorry verizon snuck into your home in the middle of the night and took away your sd card slot and google wallet. My phone happened to ship that way, so I don't mind as much.
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So I'm not allowed to upgrade to the newest thing according to you...
I was fully aware of the flaws of the DNA when I bought it and still love it, but I am also able to upgrade to a newer and better device when it comes out.
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So I'm not allowed to upgrade to the newest thing according to you...
I was fully aware of the flaws of the DNA when I bought it and still love it, but I am also able to upgrade to a newer and better device when it comes out.
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No, you're not allowed. you must continue to use the DNA
Seriously, though, being "locked down" is a pretty lame reason considering you'll likely still face that. And, if you don't switch carriers, you likely won't get wallet either.
And outside of probably having more storage, what do those phones have that the DNA doesn't? M7 is downgrade from DNA imo.
I cam from the Razr Maxx so this phone is amazing in comparsion. I do miss the battery life but i can still so far get through a day no problem. Now the storage is where i want to jump ship.
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No, you're not allowed. you must continue to use the DNA
Seriously, though, being "locked down" is a pretty lame reason considering you'll likely still face that. And, if you don't switch carriers, you likely won't get wallet either.
And outside of probably having more storage, what do those phones have that the DNA doesn't? M7 is downgrade from DNA imo.
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I don't want a m7. But even that will have a better camera and better screen, albeit slightly smaller.
But as far as the s4 and x phone. Better screen, better camera, better processor, better battery, and as you said, more storage.
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I don't want a m7. But even that will have a better camera and better screen, albeit slightly smaller.
But as far as the s4 and x phone. Better screen, better camera, better processor, better battery, and as you said, more storage.
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better screen, processor, and battery? Not arguing, but link me please. Didn't know better screens and processors existed yet.
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better screen, processor, and battery? Not arguing, but link me please. Didn't know better screens and processors existed yet.
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Well there are solux screens, which the m7 is supposed to have, and will become standard soon.
The s4 should come with their octa core processor, and the x phone will likely have one if the next gen processors announced last month at ces.
I don't feel like finding links for all of that, but a quick Google search will give you all the info on those things.
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Well there are solux screens, which the m7 is supposed to have, and will become standard soon.
The s4 should come with their octa core processor, and the x phone will likely have one if the next gen processors announced last month at ces.
I don't feel like finding links for all of that, but a quick Google search will give you all the info on those things.
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I think solux is just more marketing nonsense. Anyhow, 4.7" screen I'd actually prefer. I am keeping my eyes out for that one. I miss the size of my oneX
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Well there are solux screens, which the m7 is supposed to have, and will become standard soon.
The s4 should come with their octa core processor, and the x phone will likely have one if the next gen processors announced last month at ces.
I don't feel like finding links for all of that, but a quick Google search will give you all the info on those things.
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The octa core processor is going to be useless. The industry hasnt even fully embraced quad core yet. Octa core is going to be a waste of battery and is just there for bragging rights.
Give me one reason why you need one in a phone being made RIGHT now. There isnt any logical reason unless you think benchmarks mean everything.
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croppz said:
The octa core processor is going to be useless. The industry hasnt even fully embraced quad core yet. Octa core is going to be a waste of battery and is just there for bragging rights.
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No, how it works is that there are 4 super powerful cores and 4 low power cores. When it is not under stress it uses the low power cores but when it needs power it goes to the powerful cores. It actually offers up to 70% savings on batteries.
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No, how it works is that there are 4 super powerful cores and 4 low power cores. When it is not under stress it uses the low power cores but when it needs power it goes to the powerful cores. It actually offers up to 70% savings on batteries.
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Not sure how a cpu offers 70% battery savings when it never is responsible for 70% of the total battery usage in the first place.
Reminds me of the stuff intel says.
I suppose time will tell.
At any rate, my initial retort was for the op. "no wallet", "no unlock", etc.
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Not sure how a cpu offers 70% battery savings when it never is responsible for 70% of the total battery usage in the first place.
Reminds me of the stuff intel says.
I suppose time will tell.
At any rate, my initial retort was for the op. "no wallet", "no unlock", etc.
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70% less battery consumption by the cpu. Not total battery life.
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70% less battery consumption by the cpu. Not total battery life.
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Ah, I made the mistake of reading the words you typed should be an exciting year for phones.
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No, how it works is that there are 4 super powerful cores and 4 low power cores. When it is not under stress it uses the low power cores but when it needs power it goes to the powerful cores. It actually offers up to 70% savings on batteries.
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I don't think a octa core processor is going to be much useful. Most apps don't even use the quad cores on the newer phones. As for 70% less battery usage, we'll see about that haha...
The only problem i foresee having with the DNA is the 5'' screen...My hands aren't that big, and a 4.7'' would be nicer to have. I hope the M7 is awesome, and gets good development soon. CM mod + awesome phone = happy me
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I don't think a octa core processor is going to be much useful. Most apps don't even use the quad cores on the newer phones. As for 70% less battery usage, we'll see about that haha...
The only problem i foresee having with the DNA is the 5'' screen...My hands aren't that big, and a 4.7'' would be nicer to have. I hope the M7 is awesome, and gets good development soon. CM mod + awesome phone = happy me
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Again, its not 8 core in the fact that 8 full power cores are running, there are 4 high power/performance cores to do intensive tasks, then there are 4 low power cores which save lots of energy compared to current quad core processors. These 4 cores are what are used most of the time, they will handle simple tasks. Here's a good quote.
"Something like mapping data would be handled by the "little" processor, while graphic-intensive gaming would switch over to the "big" guys."
So what this means for the end user is higher performance for tasks that need it, but overall lower power consumption and better battery life. That isn't propaganda or a guess, it is a fact.
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So what this means for the end user is higher performance for tasks that need it, but overall lower power consumption and better battery life. That isn't propaganda or a guess, it is a fact.
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This is going to be a complicated configuration, will be interesting to see how it performs when it's released. I can only imagine the mpdecision and governor complications when we start introducing switching from slower processors to faster processors mid thread.
The reality is, when I use applications like "maps", most of the time 3 of the 4 cores are totally offline, and the core in use is ramping as needed. I can't yet dispute the benefits of running said application on a slower CPU, but it seems pretty counter-intuitive to the "go fast and sleep" mentality that has been a pillar behind cpu power improvements for years and years.
Time will tell.
One thing is for sure, we can hardly state "facts" when the item doesn't even exist yet. Until then, it absolutely is "speculation" and/or "a guess".
I'm not sure where everyone is hearing that Verizon is getting the M7 on launch. Last I heard, this is T-Mobile, AT&T, and Sprint on launch.

Active display on SGS4?

Running my mind ragged whether I should get the S4, the HTC One or the Moto X (or Droid Maxxx) (I know I know, camera. I know.)
What I was wondering was, since the S4 is Super AMOLED, does it have the ability to incorporate the active display that the Moto X has or is Super AMOLED a totally different beast?
Ehh it can.. But it doesn't have the Motos low power chip to handle the notifications and pulse the screen, so any 3rd party app you install to do it, will kill your battery.
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Ehh it can.. But it doesn't have the Motos low power chip to handle the notifications and pulse the screen, so any 3rd party app you install to do it, will kill your battery.
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Now that you mentioned that, I remembered reading that somewhere else.
It's crazy that in this day and age we haven't yet a phone that can provide 3 things: 1)amazing build quality with loud calls 2) a great camera 3)extremely long battery life/battery saving processing
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Now that you mentioned that, I remembered reading that somewhere else.
It's crazy that in this day and age we haven't yet a phone that can provide 3 things: 1)amazing build quality with loud calls 2) a great camera 3)extremely long battery life/battery saving processing
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Agreed, I do like the s4 more than I figured I would tho, signal reception is just as good as the razr hd it replaced, (was worried as every sammy I had before had horrible reception), Battery life really isnt bad and I regularly get 24 hrs with normal use, the screen is absolutely beautiful, performance is great, and the camera just blows the razr hd's away. I miss being unlocked sometimes, but I thought id be returning this and ended up keeping it.
I live in a rear apartment. Reception I believe will always btw horrible bit o believe that build can decrease reception, rendering awful reception non-existent, so I think that may be my number one priority. I have two kids and I love the S3 camera... maybe I'll get the S4 and put a GE Rom on.
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I live in a rear apartment. Reception I believe will always btw horrible bit o believe that build can decrease reception, rendering awful reception non-existent, so I think that may be my number one priority. I have two kids and I love the S3 camera... maybe I'll get the S4 and put a GE Rom on.
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Check to make sure you get a non updated phone if you wanna do that, mine came pre updated so I couldn't do roms.
Good tip
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Good tip
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It hasn't mattered to me that much since usually when I get to flashing roms on a phone it's because the stock rom is god awful slow, but this phone is so fast it doesn't bother me. I can imagine a nice rom on this runs pretty sweet though.
I just hate hate hate touchwiz. Also.I can do without the gazillion extras they added.... I really don't need so many tricks for the camera. Just hood hardware and snapseed
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I just hate hate hate touchwiz. Also.I can do without the gazillion extras they added.... I really don't need so many tricks for the camera. Just hood hardware and snapseed
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I hear you, I dont use any of the extras with this phone, and nova went on before the end of the first day, already froze most of the TW stuff, I do like all the stuff the camera can do, but as long as the AOSP cam can take good pics Id be ok with that too, the TW cam does take some pretty nice pictures though Been quite impressed actually.
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I hear you, I dont use any of the extras with this phone, and nova went on before the end of the first day, already froze most of the TW stuff, I do like all the stuff the camera can do, but as long as the AOSP cam can take good pics Id be ok with that too, the TW cam does take some pretty nice pictures though Been quite impressed actually.
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I think the hardware is solid... so any software lumped on to pilot it will do well. I tend to like the uncluttered look and feel of the stock camera. I am going by today to check out the s4 again. If the X is really out one the 29th, it would give me one day to make a decision in order to take advantage of the $50 + $10 off coupons.
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I think the hardware is solid... so any software lumped on to pilot it will do well. I tend to like the uncluttered look and feel of the stock camera. I am going by today to check out the s4 again. If the X is really out one the 29th, it would give me one day to make a decision in order to take advantage of the $50 + $10 off coupons.
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Really don't think you can go wrong between the two, I had actually picked this up because I sold my Razr HD, and could not stand using the LG Ally backup phone I had any longer, knowing I had 14 days to decide I grabbed the S4, and its what im gonna keep. Good luck with whatever you choose!

I'm in love!!!

Can't say that I love to many things aside from family, my girl, and my corvette..... Today I got my Zu and I can add it to the list. This phablet is phenomenal. There really isn't a better word to describe it. I've had all the best phones ever made and this one puts all of them to shame. Sure the camera and speaker aren't anything special but this screen and smooth performance helps you forgive that very quickly. Anyone on the fence about getting one get off that fence and scoop one up. You won't regret it.
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Can't say that I love to many things aside from family, my girl, and my corvette..... Today I got my Zu and I can add it to the list. This phablet is phenomenal. There really isn't a better word to describe it. I've had all the best phones ever made and this one puts all of them to shame. Sure the camera and speaker aren't anything special but this screen and smooth performance helps you forgive that very quickly. Anyone on the fence about getting one get off that fence and scoop one up. You won't regret it.
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Welcome to the our exclusive club
It's is a great bit of kit
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You can take away my nexus 5 or my iPhone 5s but you can't take away my z ultra oh no.
sal1311 said:
Can't say that I love to many things aside from family, my girl, and my corvette..... Today I got my Zu and I can add it to the list. This phablet is phenomenal. There really isn't a better word to describe it. I've had all the best phones ever made and this one puts all of them to shame. Sure the camera and speaker aren't anything special but this screen and smooth performance helps you forgive that very quickly. Anyone on the fence about getting one get off that fence and scoop one up. You won't regret it.
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It's indeed amazing :good:
Yeah, I usually take my Nexus 4 to work with me, since I'm too busy to actually use my phone at work and so it would be pointless to carry around the XZU, so I frequently have 3-4 day stretches in which I don't use the XZU. Whenever I switch back for school or off days, it's kind of like turning it on for the first time again. The change is so nice.
sal1311 said:
Can't say that I love to many things aside from family, my girl, and my corvette..... Today I got my Zu and I can add it to the list. This phablet is phenomenal. There really isn't a better word to describe it. I've had all the best phones ever made and this one puts all of them to shame. Sure the camera and speaker aren't anything special but this screen and smooth performance helps you forgive that very quickly. Anyone on the fence about getting one get off that fence and scoop one up. You won't regret it.
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Welcome dude, that's pretty much exactly how I feel about this phone, it ticks all the boxes for me, camera and speaker mean sod all to me, everything else is top notch and unlike any other.
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Congrats. I plan on getting the Z Ultra later this month along with the Sony power case. It'll be replacing my ancient Xperia x10a, and while it will be monsterous in my shirt pocket, it will be glorious to use.
I'll also be picking up a new VAIO Flip 13" model to replace my old Sony Tablet S. Between that and the Z Ultra, my mobile experience should be amazing!
The Z1 got the "Smartphone of the year" award and the Tablet Z got "Tablet of the year" award in Norway yesterday, so Sony is doing something right!
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After using it for 3 days, i can say that i have my money well spent.
Pros:
1. Dat screeeeeenn..
2. Wifi range is superb, can go to second floor (where the wifi is on the first) whereas with my previous devices they can't detect it.
3. With its large body, surprising that it still fits into my chest pocket
4. Battery Life is good, even though not as strong as my previous razr maxx but that is expected
5. Can't wait to take a break with KitKat!
Cons:
1. Camera overprocessing.
2. No easy root method for now.. but i have migrated from Titanium Backup into Helium app so no biggie.. Only no mod for me now
O yeah i have some tips for battery life:
1. Don't install google aosp camera with gallery. It will take media scanning twice and preventing Stamina Mode to work
2. Turn off Google+ auto backup, or only allow it to upload while charging
3. Better to full drain the phone once and then charge it while it's off. But after that, please trickle charge it before it reach 50%
4. Don't use the phone while charging. Better to disconnect and then continue after you're done.
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This phone is amazing. Just like many of you, I have used a lot of flagship androids - but this baby is special. Phenomenal display, smooth performance, no more messing around with pinch zoom and much less scrolling. Camera could have been better, but you'll get over it in no time. I'll eat my pride and share my darkest secret - I don't finally miss my 'buttery smooth' iphone 3G from 2008
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4. Don't use the phone while charging. Better to disconnect and then continue after you're done.
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Guilty!
using it while charging is bad?
velvetmxo said:
using it while charging is bad?
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No.
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velvetmxo said:
using it while charging is bad?
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It's not as bad as you think but it is better to not do so. Because if you use it while charging, the high temperature will degrade battery faster. So unless you know that your usage is low and not heavy, better to disconnect it and charge again after the device is cool again.
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No.
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BatteryUniversity says so. It's like running while eating, or fueling your car while you're racing. Not applicable for jet fighter unfortunately lol but you got the idea.. but to some extent, i agree that light usage will not cause harm into your battery (much).
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BatteryUniversity says so. It's like running while eating, or fueling your car while you're racing. Not applicable for jet fighter unfortunately lol but you got the idea.. but to some extent, i agree that light usage will not cause harm into your battery (much).
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He asked if it's BAD to use the phone when it's charging, and let's be honest, it's not like you'll kill your battery within a week if you do it. Are you playing Vice City for 5 hours while charging? THAT might be bad in the long run. Checking the weather and FB a couple of times every hour? Not gonna matter.
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He asked if it's BAD to use the phone when it's charging, and let's be honest, it's not like you'll kill your battery within a week if you do it. Are you playing Vice City for 5 hours while charging? THAT might be bad in the long run. Checking the weather and FB a couple of times every hour? Not gonna matter.
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Yeah that's what i meant
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You can take away my nexus 5 or my iPhone 5s but you can't take away my z ultra oh no.
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how the hell do you have a need for 3 cell phones?
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Actually, there is a simple fix to improve and increase speaker volume.
I use the XZ1 Volume boost, it works wonders.
- Increased internal - external speaker
- Increased headphone volume
- Increased volume call speaker
Link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2476498
Ps. You need to be rooted. Simply use CWM to flash the mod. Simple.

[Q] Is the E970 a good buy?

Contemplating on buying the E970,
been comparing it with the Nexus 4 and the Xperia SP since they are the only phones I like in my budget. I'd like to know your opinion. I am impressed by the hardware of the phone, but I'd like to know a few things before I make the purchase.
Firstly, will I have issues with the network or any other feature using the AT&T unlocked version in India?
Also, is the notification LED on the E970 RGB?
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LED is red only
...and it's an awesome phone with lots of life left with the right XDA support.
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The development for the device will not stop until the Nexus 4 development stops, huh? Because they are practically the same phone.. correct me if I am wrong.
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For the most part you are correct
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One last question, does the Optimus G Pro have a good development support here in XDA?
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Please for your own good, get the Nexus 4. Either that or live in the Nexus 4's shadow. If i could go back, I'd get the N4, you get pure and stable roms from Google and of course, you get updates faster
At this point in time, considering what the LGOG brings to the table vs the Nexus 4, I wouldn't buy a Nexus 4 but that's just me personally. Can't tolerate devices without expandable storage myself, so the microSD card slot on the LGOG just makes it a must-buy vs the Nexus 4, not to mention the addition of actual LTE support without jumping through hoops to get it working.
And considering even the Nexus 4 is now in a holding pattern of sorts to get the factory KitKat image, being a "Nexus device" isn't helping it be any better than the LGOG at all.
PhonePhan said:
Please for your own good, get the Nexus 4. Either that or live in the Nexus 4's shadow. If i could go back, I'd get the N4, you get pure and stable roms from Google and of course, you get updates faster
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I don't get this idea of shadowing. If such way of thinking is correct, then every device is in nexus's shadow. I think the goal is to have a good working phone at the end of the day. This phone has a good variety of roms to help you get there: official supports of CM, Pacman, slim, all the unofficials and the very good stock rom. Also this uses sd card, nexus doesn't
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I don't get this idea of shadowing. If such way of thinking is correct, then every device is in nexus's shadow. I think the goal is to have a good working phone at the end of the day. This phone has a good variety of roms to help you get there: official supports of CM, Pacman, slim, all the unofficials and the very good stock rom. Also this uses sd card, nexus doesn't
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Sounds like your mind is already made up lol. Good luck
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Sounds like your mind is already made up lol. Good luck
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Yep, made up 3 months ago. You should get rid of your OG if you got one so you don't have to be in the shadow
Dolby Audio really?
The sound on E970 SUCKS! I use a headphone amplifier but even with that the sound is crap. Dolby Audio really? I miss having a removable battery. Lastly, when the phone gets hot, there is a built in cap that limits the brightness of the screen. (Live in SoCal High Desert with summer temps of 110 F)
The quad core is fast and can handle quite a bit at one time. I listen to music while playing games, reading emails, cruzin' the Play Store and the internet all at the same time. Haven't had any crashes yet. There is plenty of storage internal storage. I have a lot of downloaded music and a few large games and have yet to roll over to the 16 GB external card.
Biggest disappointment is definitely the sound!!!!!!
Loving my LGOG. The sound is a bit weak. But everything else is great. I would recommend getting a best buy type warranty or a case for your phone. Gorilla glass is slippery like wet snot. I've had the back glass beak twice due to the phone sliding away and falling.
I'd buy it again.
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Coming from an HTC device before this one, the sound is not that great but it works for me. Also the camera is not a big deal. Basically the same as the nexus 4.
I'm have been using houstonn kitkat for over a week and battery life is greater than stock and performance is awesome!
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el_venga said:
Coming from an HTC device before this one, the sound is not that great but it works for me. Also the camera is not a big deal. Basically the same as the nexus 4.
I'm have been using houstonn kitkat for over a week and battery life is greater than stock and performance is awesome!
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I had a HTC too, hated s-on and the whole s-off process. Did you have to use controlbear and do the wire trick ?
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I had a HTC too, hated s-on and the whole s-off process. Did you have to use controlbear and do the wire trick ?
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i had HTC One VX with s-off practically since day one. there are very few custom roms for that model and only one aosp like which was cm10 but very early build. s-off is very easy, no need to do wire trick but i have done it to other older models like Vivid and Amaze.
i really missed stock android for months until i got my lg e970
Sorry, but would someone explain in brief what S-Off and S-On mean?
Also, I'm considering getting the Optimus G Pro instead because I find the looks more appealing and few extra pros over the E970. But the development there seems more or less stalled. Gotta risk it, I guess.
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ron_gangte said:
Sorry, but would someone explain in brief what S-Off and S-On mean?
Also, I'm considering getting the Optimus G Pro instead because I find the looks more appealing and few extra pros over the E970. But the development there seems more or less stalled. Gotta risk it, I guess.
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I'll try, others feel free to add upon this. Different manufacturers use different mechanism to secure their devices. With htc its "security-on", it restrict what hboot you may run on your devices. I had an htc evo v/ htc evo 3d, with security-on I could only run hboot 1.07.07.07 whatever which only allowed stock based ics roms. After achieving s-off I was able to put a different hboot on my phone , i had jbear 1.47.47.47 i think.. which in terms allowed me to run a lot more roms. S-on also restrict what you may flash. For example firmware and radios, here we call it modem? Don't know the difference, can't be flashed with s-on.

S6 edge or edge +?

Just wondering is it worth the extra dough to get the edge plus or just get the edge? In the market for a new phone and I am stuck on the two and the nexus 6 is catching my eye as I need to tether and I do have foxfi but more and more phones are not working on it. Please give me some info to help me choose. I was a die hard HTC fan but the past few phones has left a kinda sour taste in my mouth and need something new.
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Its definitely worth the extra money for the plus. The only thing is if you are wondering if you can root it, the phone bricks itself and says you have rooted it. I think it forces you to do a factory reset to use the phone again. If you aren't a person who roots their devices, or you can live without rooting it, this is the perfect phone for you. I absolutely love this phone except for the whole root situation...
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I got the plus in the end. I have rooted my phone in the past but as long as foxfi works I have no need for root. I am enjoying this phone more than I thought I would
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I was a rooter all the way but then realized I did it mostly to squeeze out every drop off performance. Edge+ is so fast that I don't miss rooting. And we can disable apps on this phone which does allow for even more performance. Octa-core rocks!
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Yeah this phone blows my old M7 away in performance and battery life. Plus the fast charge is unreal
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Dark Jedi said:
Yeah this phone blows my old M7 away in performance and battery life. Plus the fast charge is unreal
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What did you expect? It's been over 3 years since the M7 came out. But yeah I have the Edge Plus and it rocks.
Is foxfi working?
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Is foxfi working?
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Yes
FoxiFi works great for me. Download speeds between 12 to 25 Mbps.
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Had the edge and battery wasn't going well and ram was getting too full. Went to the edge+
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thornev said:
I was a rooter all the way but then realized I did it mostly to squeeze out every drop off performance. Edge+ is so fast that I don't miss rooting. And we can disable apps on this phone which does allow for even more performance. Octa-core rocks!
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I need it, more performance is needed for me, it doesn't transition as smoothly as i thought it would, i still see stutters here and there, though the ram management is somewhat better than my previous phone, though it's still disappointing that even with 4gb of ram it doesn't hold apps in the background as well as the htc m9, battery life is somewhat a letdown as it's near the same or worse than my previous phone, though it could just be my phone probably has a defective battery. Just glad this thing has fast charge or else i would've thrown it away with frustration or returned it.

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