Hi everyone,
I got a good few hours with the Galaxy Note 3 over the weekend, tried out a bunch of stuff and can answer a lot of the questions people have here in relation to what sorts of connectivity work and which don't (the USB 3.0 has people wondering whether their existing stuff will work).
A few findings of mine from the weekend:
External drives work, but unfortunately NTFS formatted drives still don't work on stock ROMs. It had the power to spin up a 1TB Seagate drive! Unfortunately the drive was NTFS formatted so couldn't do more to see how well it was working, but definitely was powered with a solid indicator light. Promising.
The Smart Dock works with the Note 3
The S3/Note 2 MHL adapters definitely work
The Samsung MHL 2.0 adapter works without needing a charging input plugged in and IS outputting at 60Hz
USB audio working, I tried several DACs. The ones that worked were the HiFimeDIY, Tiny-M, HeadAmp Pico. Unfortunately Apex Glacier did not work (did not work on the S4 either).
USB keyboards/mice working as they did with the older Samsungs
PS3 controller working over USB OTG
Ditto for the Xbox 360 for Microsoft controller (which required an app on older Samsungs in order to work)
Logitech F310 controller works too
Ditto the Logitech F710
It also worked with a cheapie gamepad from Ebay (like $6), although button mappings seemed limited and did not have time to try it in emulators etc to see whether all could be mapped.
BT keyboard and mouse working, as expected
IR blaster via the inbuilt app works great with my LG TV
MHL and USB OTG do not work together using the Samsung MHL 2.0 adapter
Moga Pro gamepad working well
Tried several ethernet adapters, none work.
Unfortunately the one I had did not have the USB 3.0 cable/charger, so could not benchmark read/write speeds or charging speeds using that connectivity.
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This arrived for me this week, finally got around to testing it tonight and can confirm it works well, which is a great result for the $11USD it cost me from Ebay (including shipping). Considering it basically does everything the Samsung Smart Dock does I'm well pleased.
Few notes:
Yes, it is MHL 1.0 - I kind of expect them to revise these to MHL 2.0 before Samsung actually get around to releasing an updated dock.
USB OTG functions will not work without a 2A Samsung charger connected apparently, I was initially using a cheap charger that happened to be in the multi-board the TV was plugged into and was disappointed when nothing would work. Got of my lazy @$$ and grabbed my Samsung charger and all working. Plugged in my externally powered USB hub and then a Logitech K400 keyboard/mouse combo, card reader with a 16GB full-sized SD card in it and also a Logitech F710 controller. Happily watched some video from the card and then played some Dead Trigger 2 on the HDTV with the controller.
Thanks as always.
I am a bit sad that Samsung did not update the smart dock to MHL 2.0, in my opinion 60Hz is so much better. So for now, there is no option for simultaneous USB OG and MHL 2.0.
Oh and I am seriously tempted by Moga Pro, but it is so damn expensive to import and game support make it even more difficult to buy. I am hoping Google will follow Apple and announce some sort of API for game controllers.
i am also said we still can not do MHL with a USB keyboard+mouse and video out.
That could turn it into a portable laptop. Which is why I want a Note anyway. It's big. Ideally I'd also like it if the Flipcover had a built in bluetooth keyboard with hardware keys or perhaps someone made a QWERTY slider case for it. Yes I know it is big but yes it is what I ideally want.
How cool would it be to set your Note down, plug in keyboard, mouse, and to a monitor? Bam. Get to work (or surfing). Heck I'd probably stop using my laptop for a lot of things! Get a mini-USB hub for like 5 bucks and the possibilities are endless. Would be really cool if someone set up an easy dual-boot Linux and Android ROM too or maybe that is around. But the key is having video AND keyboard/mouse at the same time. I think over time Samsung will add this, though. They deliver on cool features like this. I bet it would be possible to add in an update of software to the Note 3??? USB 3 has so much bandwidth shouldn't it be possible?
Thank you very much!! I have been looking for someone to post this type of info. Has anyone seen anything that points to a OTG cable that supports 3.0 standards?
Thanks a lot. Happy to hear that smart dock works with it. With 2.3Ghz quad core, it definitely will replace my desktop.
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That could turn it into a portable laptop. Which is why I want a Note anyway. It's big. Ideally I'd also like it if the Flipcover had a built in bluetooth keyboard with hardware keys or perhaps someone made a QWERTY slider case for it. Yes I know it is big but yes it is what I ideally want.
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I want this too. Something that you can hold without having to prop up the phone/screen. Slider would be ideal. I don't care if it adds a bit of bulk...just not as much as the one I tried for the S4. It was horrible, and didn't work well anyway. I'd love to see a really good solution put out for this.
great info ! thanks !
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i am also said we still can not do MHL with a USB keyboard+mouse and video out.
That could turn it into a portable laptop. Which is why I want a Note anyway. It's big. Ideally I'd also like it if the Flipcover had a built in bluetooth keyboard with hardware keys or perhaps someone made a QWERTY slider case for it. Yes I know it is big but yes it is what I ideally want.
How cool would it be to set your Note down, plug in keyboard, mouse, and to a monitor? Bam. Get to work (or surfing). Heck I'd probably stop using my laptop for a lot of things! Get a mini-USB hub for like 5 bucks and the possibilities are endless. Would be really cool if someone set up an easy dual-boot Linux and Android ROM too or maybe that is around. But the key is having video AND keyboard/mouse at the same time. I think over time Samsung will add this, though. They deliver on cool features like this. I bet it would be possible to add in an update of software to the Note 3??? USB 3 has so much bandwidth shouldn't it be possible?
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I do exactly this with my note 10.1 .. bluetooth keyboard & Bluetooth mouse and Samsung All Share Cast Dongle to connect to TV. I suppose my note 3 when i receive it tommorow will be able to do the same
Thank you for your feedback very informative and useful.. :victory:
Hah - Good to see you over here NZtechfreak. I remember your galaxys3 posts wrt to ps3 controllers from last year.
Glad to know that my old S3 MHL adapter will work.
OTG USB 3.0 adaptors available now
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Thank you very much!! I have been looking for someone to post this type of info. Has anyone seen anything that points to a OTG cable that supports 3.0 standards?
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There are 2 discussions here about this
1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2439113
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2462395
But to answer your question:
There is now a black one available on eBay
Black Micro USB 3.0 9pin OTG Host Flash Disk Cable for Galaxy Note 3 N9000 10cm
And a white one on cable.cc
Micro USB 3.0 9pin OTG Host Flash Disk Cable for Samsung Galaxy Note3 N9000 White Color 10cm
Thanks for this.
So far i've only been able to test with my old gear, but my existing Samsung MHL 1.0 adapter is working well, and i'm going to be buying the official samsung one on your recommendation.
My chepo amazon OTG cable worked great for my 2TB portable WD harddrive, which itself also sports the Mini USB 3.0 port. It power right up and i was able to play movies from it. (i'm pretty sure it's formatted HFS+.
is there anything special you need to do to get mhl working? ive got THREE mhl adapters that all worked with my galaxy note 1 (n7000) and none of them are doing a thing with the note 3. any ideas?
Anyone can recommend a mhl 2.0 adapter because on amazon the review are 50-50 saying that they are fake?
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evil-doer said:
is there anything special you need to do to get mhl working? ive got THREE mhl adapters that all worked with my galaxy note 1 (n7000) and none of them are doing a thing with the note 3. any ideas?
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The mhl adapter for the note 1 is different (pin count) than that of the note 2. The galaxy note 2 + s3 used a newer type of mhl. When searching look for mhl adapters that work for the galaxy s3 and note 2.
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I got the Smart Dock Multimedia Hub since I've read that some of the aftermarket and knockoffs occasionally fry itself or the phone. I wasn't interested in risking it so I picked one up for $55 with my VZW account that I have suspended lines with grandfathered data I keep meaning to sell.
Like OP has listed it works. I does sit off center due to the USB 2.0 of the 3.0 portion not in the middle. Video runs fine with a slight delay over HDMI. One of the big things I wanted to do was emulated games. I have Animaonline SNES, SNESDroid, and Snes9x EX+ installed. While using a wired PS3 controller there is an obvious input lag on all three emulators. Snes9x EX+ went half speed and was unplayable. The other two ran, but still had an input lag. I was barely able to make it past the first course in F-Zero bouncing around like a noob and Mario World was a joke. Playing these with just an OTG cable works great and I've already beaten a couple of my old favorites; playing through Secret of Mana right now.
I can't imagine trying to use this with a keyboard and mouse and using a RDP client for some remote administration. I wonder if the Note 2 and S4 exhibit the same lag; I'll try and test if I get a chance. Frankly I'm a bit disappointed and think that MHL (for video) and OTG need to be separate on the Note 3 until lag is sorted out. It would be a real shame if the lag is there on the Note 2 and S4, which means no one knows about it or they don't care to fix it. I do look forward to the day when the phone is also the full on computer that just needs a dock or be near ones desk. I'll see if VZW will take it back after my vacation.
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Anyone can recommend a mhl 2.0 adapter because on amazon the review are 50-50 saying that they are fake?
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Buy it from the Samsung store, that's pretty much the only way right now to ensure you get the genuine article. It's $39.99 in the US but while placing the order I registered my phone with them, then used the 50% off coupon they mailed me for registering to get it for $19.99 plus shipping.
Sure beats playing Russian roulette on Amazon.
CraigAmey said:
Buy it from the Samsung store, that's pretty much the only way right now to ensure you get the genuine article. It's $39.99 in the US but while placing the order I registered my phone with them, then used the 50% off coupon they mailed me for registering to get it for $19.99 plus shipping.
Sure beats playing Russian roulette on Amazon.
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First of all, lemme say that I got mine last night and I love it!!!
I was just sitting here pondering what I would use my 50% off coupon for and after seeing your post, I think I'll do the same.
As a bit of an unrelated sidenote, I was just looking at the YouTube channel of a "reputable" reviewer who puts out weekly ratings of the top 5 phones as voted by consumers and then another list as voted by "experts".
As of this week, the iPhone 5s is atop the experts list and in 2nd place on the consumer list.
In what alternative world are the minuscule changes made to the 5, anywhere near substantial enough to rate it above the Note 3???
It boggles my mind how blindly devoted the Apple Nation truly are...
They're exactly like the guys in the band playing on the deck of the Titanic...the friggin' ship is damn near vertical, but the band plays on.
Go figure...
Rant completed...I now return you to your previously scheduled programming.
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Buy it from the Samsung store, that's pretty much the only way right now to ensure you get the genuine article. It's $39.99 in the US but while placing the order I registered my phone with them, then used the 50% off coupon they mailed me for registering to get it for $19.99 plus shipping.
Sure beats playing Russian roulette on Amazon.
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NICE, forgot about that coupon offer
CraigAmey said:
Buy it from the Samsung store, that's pretty much the only way right now to ensure you get the genuine article. It's $39.99 in the US but while placing the order I registered my phone with them, then used the 50% off coupon they mailed me for registering to get it for $19.99 plus shipping.
Sure beats playing Russian roulette on Amazon.
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Ok but what about a regular MHL adapter would we need the 5 to 11 pin adapter I was looking at the http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00EAM863M/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?qid=1381591510&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70.
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I've never gotten one before.
Are all of them the same, i.e. if I buy one that's for an SGS2 it will still work on this device right? They're all just microUSB to HDMI I'm thinking. Cuz I see some cheap ones for like $7 and I'd rather just get that than spend like $30 on a "good" one that's the same exact ****.
brand means nothing on these. the only thing you need to know to use it is you will have to power the mhl adaptor with your micro usb cable
I've had mixed results with these adapters.
I ordered 2 different cheap adapters from ebay (2 because I read that some dont work with the note) The first one to arrive just didn't want to work tried everything but gave up on it. The second one also didn't work the first couple of times but then suddenly worked. It was ok for about 2 weeks of heavy use then it gave up on me aswel.
Now I have the original Samsung MHL adapter and works every time with no problems. So to answer your question - it's a game of luck unless you pay.
Anyone here using a tested and verified working mhl? I would love to get one myself too.
i was skeptical so i bought one off ebay for like 8 bucks... plugged it in the day i got it and was playing Tekken 3 on my TV via Galaxy note .... works pretty well. There may or may not be a little lag though... (might have been my tv)
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i was skeptical so i bought one off ebay for like 8 bucks... plugged it in the day i got it and was playing Tekken 3 on my TV via Galaxy note .... works pretty well. There may or may not be a little lag though... (might have been my tv)
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Classic game
can u link me to the mhl u got?
yep +1 here, which mhl adapter (micro usb to hdmi) are you using? A link would be nice
Menotek Micro USB to HDMI MHL Adapter IMPROVED WITH RCP from amazon is what I'm using.
It wasn't working at first but then i figured out you have to plug the power cord in then the hdmi in that order.
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Menotek Micro USB to HDMI MHL Adapter IMPROVED WITH RCP from amazon is what I'm using.
It wasn't working at first but then i figured out you have to plug the power cord in then the hdmi in that order.
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how is the picture quality?
ukic said:
how is the picture quality?
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Its very crisp and clear. I'm kind of OCD about that stuff and so far I'm pleased with it
It's to be noted though, if you're playing a youtube video outside the web browser the annotations wont show up on the tv, nor will subtitles on a mkv file, unless the subtitles are hardcoded into the video itself.
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Its very crisp and clear. I'm kind of OCD about that stuff and so far I'm pleased with it
It's to be noted though, if you're playing a youtube video outside the web browser the annotations wont show up on the tv, nor will subtitles on a mkv file, unless the subtitles are hardcoded into the video itself.
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Tyvm for the info. I will order it today. I just need to get something worth $10 worth, so I can have it shipped for free
Edit: I hope it also works for skyrocket.
I haven't seen anyone post about the MHL capabilities of the DNA yet so I figured I'd try my adapter from my Nexus... it works fine with the cheap 5 to 10 dollar ones you can buy on amazon... you just need to be sure that you power the adapter it wont work without external power
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Sucks that it needs external power..
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I haven't seen anyone post about the MHL capabilities of the DNA yet so I figured I'd try my adapter from my Nexus... it works fine with the cheap 5 to 10 dollar ones you can buy on amazon... you just need to be sure that you power the adapter it wont work without external power
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I also have a mhl adapter from pny but I did not connect power to the adapter and the external display worked. Was your display on the phone and tv laggy or smooth after you connected the adapter? Were your videos in sync with the image produced on the phone itself?
MHL adapter kit
The MHL adapter for HTC DNA from iBOLT features a 2 meter (6ft) extension cable so you can stand in front of the TV and play Angry Bird, racing or whatever other games you prefer. With licensed MHL technology it is a real 30 frames per second so there's no delay and the sound quality is great when playing even advanced games. My kids love MHL, they only want to watch Netflix kids programs now without painful commercial interruptions.
The only thing to be aware of with Android MHL is that some sites block the HDMI port out. Two examples are Hulu+ and HBO (they don't block it from iOS). Most others, like Netflix and almost all web streaming sites works perfect. Google Play has an amazing picture quality on the newer videos when you rent them, absolutely clear 1080p resolution if you have enough WiFi bandwidth. The best use of MHL is to show photos and videos though on the big screen TV. The quality with good adapter is near perfect and the phone is charging while you are doing it too.
The "cyber Monday" price for an iBOLT complete MHL adapter kit with 6ft HDMI cable and the required 1 amp microUSB wall charger is only $24.95. Feel free to ask any questions and I'll check back daily here. Here's a YouTube video showing the technology and the kit I was referring to. The Samsung OEM has a very good reputation if you don't like this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmaKIJ90Xz4&feature=plcp
The image and everything was in sync... Sounds were good I watched a little but of transformers... The picture looked like crap but that is because it's compressed over Google play... You tube looked great
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I bought one and it works well, but the framerate seems a little slower. It is usable, but certain apps seem to not allow being shown via the HDMI such as NFL Mobile and Hulu Plus.
The Samsung adapter for GSIII works on the DNA.
I have experienced issues with hardware accelerated subtitles using the MHL cable. Viki shows video but no words and that is kind of useless for me. Fortunately downloaded subtitles play in MXplayer with the software subtitle option.
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I think I know the answer to this question but I will ask anyway...lol
Is there any MHL to HDMI adapter cables that do NOT need an external power source for the adapter? Seems kinda crappy to have to plug power into the adapter,
If so, a link to one would be greatly appreciated
Just put my order in to upgrade from my Thunderbolt to the DNA. Figure I will want to get a wireless charging pad, the MHL to HDMI adapter, and a micro USB to USB to mount external storgae.
As an aside...I cannot believe no company has actually created a micro USB to Micro SD adpater cable! I saw some links to threads here where people actually built their own...pretty cool...but hard to believe no company has stepped up for this. With the form factor fo phones moving more towards the DNA, One X, etc, I would think those would sell like hotckaes!
While browsing this thread I came to wonder about the DNA's mirroring. So when the right cable is connected, mirroring becomes available? Makes me wonder if a cable exists that might be micros USB on one side and (don't laugh) RCA on the other. My car's head unit had an add-on that allows RCA video inputs to display on the nav screen. It worked back when I used an iPad occassionally.
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While browsing this thread I came to wonder about the DNA's mirroring. So when the right cable is connected, mirroring becomes available? Makes me wonder if a cable exists that might be micros USB on one side and (don't laugh) RCA on the other. My car's head unit had an add-on that allows RCA video inputs to display on the nav screen. It worked back when I used an iPad occassionally.
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yeah. that would be awesome. netflix on my head unit.
jonjvaughn said:
While browsing this thread I came to wonder about the DNA's mirroring. So when the right cable is connected, mirroring becomes available? Makes me wonder if a cable exists that might be micros USB on one side and (don't laugh) RCA on the other. My car's head unit had an add-on that allows RCA video inputs to display on the nav screen. It worked back when I used an iPad occassionally.
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Ya know, the original droid incredible had this feature, HTC offered the micro usb to rca adapter cable too, it was about $35 from Verizon I think.
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jonjvaughn said:
While browsing this thread I came to wonder about the DNA's mirroring. So when the right cable is connected, mirroring becomes available? Makes me wonder if a cable exists that might be micros USB on one side and (don't laugh) RCA on the other. My car's head unit had an add-on that allows RCA video inputs to display on the nav screen. It worked back when I used an iPad occassionally.
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they sell adapters for hdmi-rca... they are pretty cheap so if you want to try it go ahead
http://www.amazon.com/Feet-1-5m-Vid...686063&sr=1-10&keywords=hdmi+to+rca+converter
thanks
Skype issues
Anyone else with a MHL cable and Skype? I am getting a flickering screen on the TV when in call. I just want to know if anyone else is hving this problem.
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ericsemmons said:
yeah. that would be awesome. netflix on my head unit.
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I have a pioneer appradio 2 and was able to do this with my old bionic and a root only app from the market. Trying to set it up with the dna. will post results.
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Have a new gs3 and i rooted it. I will download ARLIberator once the head unit see the phone. Bought the android pieoner cable, had cable installed by BestBuy (which is where i bought the head unit and had it install by them) and then went and bout gs3 cause of all the reviews. Only thing that works is my phone charging, unit do see phone. Any help would be great..
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seemed like too much work and cables. So i simply came up with $20 more and got this.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390560143550
wireless HDMI. Since our phones have it, why not use it.
Link didn't work.. can u try again
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link seems fine on my end, but just search ebay for "Original HTC Media Link HD DG H200 HDMI for One X + Butterfly S720e LTE DLNA"
it's $44.
Can anyone who has the dk30 dock connector throw it on a tester to find out which pin is positive and which is negative in relation to the phone? I have my ultra coming today and would like to cnc myself a few docks (One for the shop, one for home and a wider dock plate for my truck) at my shop instead of buying 3 docks and customizing one for the truck.. I am planning on using some thick acrylic to make the docks. I will share the results here when I get them done.
Thanks!
Someone has to have purchased one of these docks who has a simple voltage tester!
After reading the bad reviews on the dock, I want to start making these custom docks. I have everything I need to make the docks except the pin layout on the device. I don't want to risk applying current backwards seeing the connector is only able to be installed one way.
All I need to know is which pin is positive and I can make the mold for the docks.
I would like to know this too! Please someone with the DK30 make a quick measurement!
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parts ordered
I have pogo pins, micro usb breakout boards, and small rare earth magnets on order. I plan on making a mold for a connector which can be used in different dock configurations. I have a cnc router so can simply make either wood or plastic docks (maybe even aluminum) to receive the custom connector. If all goes well, I should be able to reproduce them. If someone can take this reading for me, I will send them a dock when I complete them (only the first person). I will also post the results in a new thread. 4 days with the ultra and I'm already sick of the doors over the ports. I can do better than the sony dock for sure!
Answered
This was answered by Luisarn in another thread:
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Round one is the + (5V) and the oval one is the GND
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Thanks Luisarn and thanks Bin4ry for asking over there.
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This was answered by Luisarn in another thread:
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Round one is the + (5V) and the oval one is the GND
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2403846&page=9
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Exactly
Looking forward to build a own one
Regards
Made a prototype!
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Exactly
Looking forward to build a own one
Regards
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I made a prototype out of some white corian while waiting for the rest of the parts to come in. I ultimately want to be able to plug a micro usb into the back of the dock as that is mainly what I have everywhere already. The full sized usb on the Sony dock is just stupid! Anyway this is just a quick one.. no magnets, just gravity to make the connection. I will be making an improved version as soon as my parts come in. I also plan on incorporating an nfc tag so I can set up the phone to open car mode when on the road, a clock when next to the bed, etc.
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I made a prototype out of some white corian while waiting for the rest of the parts to come in. I ultimately want to be able to plug a micro usb into the back of the dock as that is mainly what I have everywhere already. The full sized usb on the Sony dock is just stupid! Anyway this is just a quick one.. no magnets, just gravity to make the connection. I will be making an improved version as soon as my parts come in. I also plan on incorporating an nfc tag so I can set up the phone to open car mode when on the road, a clock when next to the bed, etc.
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One question. How can you plug USB while docking? Seems your dock cover the USB slot, like other dock I saw (expect sony dock).
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One question. How can you plug USB while docking? Seems your dock cover the USB slot, like other dock I saw (expect sony dock).
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I'm not sure why I would want to use the dock at the same time as connection ting the device Over USB. I use wireless transfer for files and seldom have a reason to plug in other than for charging. In fact I Wonder if there would be a problem connecting 2 power sources at once.
USB can be use for plug OTG as well. Like usb keys, xbox controller and as much usb devices android accept. It is true that each person use things differently, prior use for me when I finally will get a dock will be for can use OTG and charge my phone in the same time. As main reason I limit use of Keyboard, mouse and xbox controller on android devices is mainly because I can't charge in same time. Magnetic charging really seduced me ^^
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I made a prototype out of some white corian while waiting for the rest of the parts to come in. I ultimately want to be able to plug a micro usb into the back of the dock as that is mainly what I have everywhere already. The full sized usb on the Sony dock is just stupid! Anyway this is just a quick one.. no magnets, just gravity to make the connection. I will be making an improved version as soon as my parts come in. I also plan on incorporating an nfc tag so I can set up the phone to open car mode when on the road, a clock when next to the bed, etc.
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I would be interested in 1 of your docks or maybe you could make a custom 1 for me
that I can use in my car . I do have something in mind , let me know if you'd be interested ?
PAPER1 said:
I would be interested in 1 of your docks or maybe you could make a custom 1 for me
that I can use in my car . I do have something in mind , let me know if you'd be interested ?
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I am waiting on some micro USB breakout boards as well as Some magnets to play around with. I will keep this current design for use at my shop, but am planning a car dock and one for next to the bed. Both will have a nfc chip embedded in them. I will post the final product here or will more than likely link to a new thread. I have to see how long they take me.. I have a lot of work at my shop right now. If I can make an easily repeatable design I may make a few to sell.. I'll let you know....
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USB can be use for plug OTG as well. Like usb keys, xbox controller and as much usb devices android accept. It is true that each person use things differently, prior use for me when I finally will get a dock will be for can use OTG and charge my phone in the same time. As main reason I limit use of Keyboard, mouse and xbox controller on android devices is mainly because I can't charge in same time. Magnetic charging really seduced me ^^
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Everybody definitely has their own preference! I use a bluetooth mouse, keyboard and controller. Otg was way too cumbersome, especially when having to use a powered hub. I love the ultra because i can log in remotely to my computer and tweak cad drawings on the road if in a pinch using the mouse and keyboard.. the screen size and resolution on this thing are great. Bluetooth just works so much better for me. i have never had a need to attach a thumb drive to my phone.
A dock which allows you to access the usb port would be easy enough though. I simply don't ever want to open the door to the usb port again Hell, I may even make a custom connector for use with a power pack so that can use the dock pins as well!
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Everybody definitely has their own preference! I use a bluetooth mouse, keyboard and controller. Otg was way too cumbersome, especially when having to use a powered hub. I love the ultra because i can log in remotely to my computer and tweak cad drawings on the road if in a pinch using the mouse and keyboard.. the screen size and resolution on this thing are great. Bluetooth just works so much better for me. i have never had a need to attach a thumb drive to my phone.
A dock which allows you to access the usb port would be easy enough though. I simply don't ever want to open the door to the usb port again Hell, I may even make a custom connector for use with a power pack so that can use the dock pins as well!
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For me nothing is more reliable than a wire connection "fastest, most stable and never need to charge". I agree wireless is more comfortable but not work better.
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For me nothing is more reliable than a wire connection "fastest, most stable and never need to charge". I agree wireless is more comfortable but not work better.
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When I was trying to work with a hub and otg to use a mouse and keyboard I the past, the results were not reliable at all.. The newer blue tooth stuff (I'm using all 3.0) has been very dependable for me.. Each use case is different though.
anything new on this ???
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anything new on this ???
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Been busy with work and the new baby.. I have a final version of the regular dock done... I'm working on the car dock.. I'll update this week. I'll put up some more pics with the phone in the dock etc.. For now,a pic of the the finished dock:
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Been busy with work and the new baby.. I have a final version of the regular dock done... I'm working on the car dock.. I'll update this week. I'll put up some more pics with the phone in the dock etc.. For now,a pic of the the finished dock:
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Looks good , will you be making a version that works with a case on the phone ?
For example I'm using a Incipio DualPro That I cut & modified in the spot
were the Magnet charger hooks up . I would be interest in both car & desk mount
if it would work with my case on & a set of both for when I don't use my case .
THANKS for the update .
Any Updates on your docks ???
Was also wondering if you might want to tackle a project & make a belt clip the phone can
slide in similar to this 1 , but maybe with the holder section on the magnet side placed above
& below the charge section . I would be very willing to pay for a couple & a friend who has the
Z ultra also would like a couple . I'm sure there is a market for it .
link to example of what I'm talking about .
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Hard-...t=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cases&hash=item3f29d6db91
I am talking about just the section are Phone would slide into so we can clip it onto our belt , computer bag , backpack , pocket , ect ...
please let me know what you think ??? :fingers-crossed:
These car docks could turn into your next business venture.
I'm an OTR truck driver. I use my Note 2 for all the normal stuff plus I have a truck GPS that runs on it. Needless to say that it is on my dash 24x7 due to other trucking apps. One of my big problems is due to the vibration USB ports don't last long. I love the magnetic charge. I like the high sides for control of the unit. I do have 110 volt power running to the dashboard to plug things in.
If you decide you are going to make a few of these let me know how much. I'm sure truck drivers will eat these up. I can see where these phones and going to be popular. For those who don't know for a truck driver to basically pick up their phone and dial it the fine for him us over $2000. The fine that goes to the company for the same offense is over $11,000. If you are lucky enough to be an owner-operator you get to pay both fines. The use of the processor, OK Google, and other voice command features will explode with this type of phone. We are still allowed to use bluetooth to talk and you can press the button on the side of your headset to do things.
Just got my new Samsung Smart Dock Multimedia Hub: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009KZ3XE6/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And boy is it SWEET. Got a logitech K400 wireless keyboard with touch pad, plugged the dongle into the usb port and plugged in an HDMI cable to my audio video reciever, and now I have a 55" HD monitor.
Read this for more info: http://landoftechnology.com/2013/samsung-galaxy-s4-s3-note-2-smart-dock-review/
I will CHROOT a Linux image and use my new Galaxy Note 3 as my new computer!!
It comes with a 2amp charger just like the one that came with our phone. And it is compatible with the Galaxy Note 3:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA-reviews
Hope this helps any one who is looking for a way to dock, charge their phone, mirror their screen. and listen to music on their home theater all with just one device. Well, two counting the keyboard.
This smart dock is really cool, here is another demo of it getting hooked up with a KMV cable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCPCY9PSfSk
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Just got my new Samsung Smart Dock Multimedia Hub: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009KZ3XE6/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And boy is it SWEET. Got a logitech K400 wireless keyboard with touch pad, plugged the dongle into the usb port and plugged in an HDMI cable to my audio video reciever, and now I have a 55" HD monitor.
Read this for more info: http://landoftechnology.com/2013/samsung-galaxy-s4-s3-note-2-smart-dock-review/
I will CHROOT a Linux image and use my new Galaxy Note 3 as my new computer!!
It comes with a 2amp charger just like the one that came with our phone. And it is compatible with the Galaxy Note 3:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA-reviews
Hope this helps any one who is looking for a way to dock, charge their phone, mirror their screen. and listen to music on their home theater all with just one device. Well, two counting the keyboard.
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The one in your link is for the N2 and S3-S4. One new feature the N3 came out with is the USB 3.0.
I'm waiting for Sammy to come out with a dedicated dock for the N3 to take advantage of the higher speeds, that is if you want to set it up as your new desktop computer with mouse/keyboard, HDMI monitor and an external HDD hooked up to it... I'll wait.
The one in the link is for the GN3 as well if you check.
I wouldn't hold my breath. Samsung doesn't seem to be in any hurry to come out with ANY accessories for the GN3, let alone a dock that is going to be pretty much the same as this one. The 3.0 usb is only faster for smaller files. There's been a couple of guys on the forums who have run some tests. I personally have found it a little faster for some things, but overall, not much. With my set up and an SSD, I'm not waiting for anything at all when I'm working on it.
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The one in the link is for the GN3 as well if you check.
I wouldn't hold my breath. Samsung doesn't seem to be in any hurry to come out with ANY accessories for the GN3, let alone a dock that is going to be pretty much the same as this one. The 3.0 usb is only faster for smaller files. There's been a couple of guys on the forums who have run some tests. I personally have found it a little faster for some things, but overall, not much. With my set up and an SSD, I'm not waiting for anything at all when I'm working on it.
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how functional would a touch screen monitor be if it were hooked up with this?
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The one in your link is for the N2 and S3-S4. One new feature the N3 came out with is the USB 3.0.
I'm waiting for Sammy to come out with a dedicated dock for the N3 to take advantage of the higher speeds, that is if you want to set it up as your new desktop computer with mouse/keyboard, HDMI monitor and an external HDD hooked up to it... I'll wait.
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It is for n3 also. You're not benefitting much from the usb3. I'd rather wait for 64bit phones to come out and mature some before I start using a desktop dock.
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how functional would a touch screen monitor be if it were hooked up with this?
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It should work fine, but I don't have one so I can't test it to see. By connecting the keyboard with a mouse it automatically switches the interface to the mouse instead of the phones touch screen, so It may or may not see the touch screen feature of the monitor. I would just take it to someplace like Best Buy and test it first if I were you.
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Just got my new Samsung Smart Dock Multimedia Hub: And boy is it SWEET. Got a logitech K400 wireless keyboard with touch pad, plugged the dongle into the usb port and plugged in an HDMI cable to my audio video reciever, and now I have a 55" HD monitor.
Read this for more info: I will CHROOT a Linux image and use my new Galaxy Note 3 as my new computer!!
It comes with a 2amp charger just like the one that came with our phone. And it is compatible with the Galaxy Note 3:
Hope this helps any one who is looking for a way to dock, charge their phone, mirror their screen. and listen to music on their home theater all with just one device. Well, two counting the keyboard.
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OP can you post pics with the note 3 in the dock I want to see how well it sits and I have the Spigen slim armor do you think I'll be able to dock the device with the case on or will I have to take it off everytime
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It is for n3 also. You're not benefitting much from the usb3. I'd rather wait for 64bit phones to come out and mature some before I start using a desktop dock.
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Right, it's compatible with the N3, but it doesn't mean it was made for it.
So you think the end user would benefit more (see the actual speed increase) from the 64 bit computing rather than transfer speeds increase from using the USB 3.0? I'm sure the dock station mean for a light home use (internet, documents, multimedia, etc, not sure about gaming with this setup) and not for the 3D modeling and such? I honestly can't say that I was blown away from switching to 64 bit home PC and notebook, the noticeable difference on a phone would be even less.
Thinking about it, can't even say I'd see the benefits of USB 3.0 as I don't (and won't be) copying files between the phone memory and the external storage.
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OP can you post pics with the note 3 in the dock I want to see how well it sits and I have the Spigen slim armor do you think I'll be able to dock the device with the case on or will I have to take it off everytime
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I'll try to get you some pics this weekend. It should fit with your case. I have the Poetic Invictus (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EXA6WY6/ref=oh_details_o08_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) on mine and it fits with room to spare. The GN3 sits just a little bit to the left in the stand due to the location of the USB 2 connection, but it is very slight and barely noticable, imo.
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I'll try to get you some pics this weekend. It should fit with your case. I have the Poetic Invictus on mine and it fits with room to spare. The GN3 sits just a little bit to the left in the stand due to the location of the USB 2 connection, but it is very slight and barely noticable, imo.
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I'm a bit concerned that case seems' significantly thinner than mine but the pics will be much appreciated It will allow me to make an informed decision and have you done the HDMI connection to a TV is there an issue with it or is everything on the dock working properly I saw the video about the KMV switcher where he forced landscape but the sizing issue is of concern I'll probably have to bite the bullet on that one.
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I'm a bit concerned that case seems' significantly thinner than mine but the pics will be much appreciated It will allow me to make an informed decision and have you done the HDMI connection to a TV is there an issue with it or is everything on the dock working properly I saw the video about the KMV switcher where he forced landscape but the sizing issue is of concern I'll probably have to bite the bullet on that one.
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Everything works perfectly. I watch full screen HD movies on my home theater system all the time. And the dock automatically switches the view on the HDMI connected peripheral to landscape. as long as you have daydream toggled off in display and desk home screen display toggled on in accessory. You should also set HDMI audio output to surround if you have a home theater system.
You don't need KMV switcher.
I get my movies from Showbox. Due to XDA policies, I can't post the apk for it here, but you can just Google it to download and install.
I am not getting 1080p
When I hook up the dock to the monitor it is giving me 1280x720. Any ideas?
Hello... I would buy this dock. But a question. Why have the note3 so a different usb-connector.. Micro-usb +??? My Orginal Samsung otg cable works. My non Samsung Orginal mhl-hdmi cable works. What or for What is this connector.. Another little help please. Cover and dock works together i read, is this right? I use Orginal Samsung s view Cover.
Gn3 has a usb3.0 connector. Standard 2.0 micro USB works fine
I'm really disappointed with the smart dock.
There is a lag of half a second between the action and the display on the TV screen, It's impossible to play any games in theses conditions.
karlichon said:
I'm really disappointed with the smart dock.
There is a lag of half a second between the action and the display on the TV screen, It's impossible to play any games in theses conditions.
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Sounds like something wrong with your setup. There are a number of vids on YouTube showing the SmartDock in action, including one by XDA member NZTechFreak, demonstrating outstanding response - certainly no sign of "half a second" lag.
PM him and he may be able to offer you advice on getting it to work correctly.
This smart dock is really very nice .....
R2D2_NZ said:
Sounds like something wrong with your setup. There are a number of vids on YouTube showing the SmartDock in action, including one by XDA member NZTechFreak, demonstrating outstanding response - certainly no sign of "half a second" lag.
PM him and he may be able to offer you advice on getting it to work correctly.
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There is lag from the MHL connection to the TV. I've an aftermarket MHL to HDMI cable and Samsungs own MHL connection, both which have a lag on TV screen compared to what is actually happening on the device.
Fine for Movies and Stuff, but completely unsuitable for gaming.
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There is lag from the MHL connection to the TV. I've an aftermarket MHL to HDMI cable and Samsungs own MHL connection, both which have a lag on TV screen compared to what is actually happening on the device.
Fine for Movies and Stuff, but completely unsuitable for gaming.
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See NZtechfreak's YouTube vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hy3wETf5o0 here.
He plays games with the SmartDock and his PS3 controller, so "completely unsuitable for gaming" is a bit of an exaggeration.
And nobody said there was no lag. I questioned the previous poster's "half second" lag experience. The lag through the dock is closer to a tenth of a second, as is clearly visible the clip.
If that's unacceptable to you, then your choice is clear - don't get one. And not everybody plans on gaming. For me, the ability to stream Netflix to my TV justifies the SmartDock's existence.
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Has anyone gotten their M8 to connect to a TV or monitor using a mhl adapter or cable? Ive tried two so far and have gotten little success. If so what are you using? do i need to find a certain brand of cable or adapter to mirror my One M8 on my TV screen?
the two I used were an auvio mhl adapter which i got to work mabey 10% of the time with a ton of unplugging and reconecting cables, I returned that one for a radioshack mhl to hdmi cable which i couldnt get to mirror at all but when plugged into the phone it allowed the phone to go into landscape but no video
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Has anyone gotten their M8 to connect to a TV or monitor using a mhl adapter or cable? Ive tried two so far and have gotten little success. If so what are you using? do i need to find a certain brand of cable or adapter to mirror my One M8 on my TV screen?
the two I used were an auvio mhl adapter which i got to work mabey 10% of the time with a ton of unplugging and reconecting cables, I returned that one for a radioshack mhl to hdmi cable which i couldnt get to mirror at all but when plugged into the phone it allowed the phone to go into landscape but no video
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I can confirm that the Samsung one works perfectly fine. I think I bought it for the galaxy S3. Here is a pic.
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Has anyone gotten their M8 to connect to a TV or monitor using a mhl adapter or cable? Ive tried two so far and have gotten little success. If so what are you using? do i need to find a certain brand of cable or adapter to mirror my One M8 on my TV screen?
the two I used were an auvio mhl adapter which i got to work mabey 10% of the time with a ton of unplugging and reconecting cables, I returned that one for a radioshack mhl to hdmi cable which i couldnt get to mirror at all but when plugged into the phone it allowed the phone to go into landscape but no video
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I've had decent luck with the 'Rocketfish' MHL adapters that are available at BestBuy. I'll have it work fine for a while and then all of a sudden I'll loose video but keep audio. I've since ordered a MHL adapter of Monoprice that had good reviews. I'll update if I get anywhere.
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I can confirm that the Samsung one works perfectly fine. I think I bought it for the galaxy S3. Here is a pic.
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Samsung S3 uses a 12 pin connection (I also bought it) and that's not the one, from looking at the photo. Are you sure that's not the adapter from the S2 or something?
I still haven't found any info regarding if the HTC One m8 uses mhl 2.0 or 1.0
Any news regarding this matter?
Badelhas said:
Samsung S3 uses a 12 pin connection (I also bought it) and that's not the one, from looking at the photo. Are you sure that's not the adapter from the S2 or something?
I still haven't found any info regarding if the HTC One m8 uses mhl 2.0 or 1.0
Any news regarding this matter?
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it might be an S2, that is why I post a pic with the model number so people can search by it.
If you have an AV receiver that supports MHL, the best thing to use is a passive MHL cable. Fortunately my Onkyo TX-NR5010 supports MHL & it works perfectly using this Pipeline passive MHL cable: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EZ2KL76/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have never lost video or audio with it. *Please Note: If you do NOT have a receiver or a TV that supports MHL natively, then this will not work for you. It is a PASSIVE cable that transmits the raw MHL signal to the receiver or TV for native processing/decoding. If you DO have a TV or receiver that supports MHL though, then this is the way to go. Those little adapters will never match the reliability & quality of native decoding via an AVR or high-end TV.
I am also having trouble getting mhl adapter to work with my HTC One_M8. Tried two different ones already. The mhl symbol appears on the phone but no image on the TV. Anyone has any tips? I'm getting desperate
Thanks
MHL Works on HTC One (M8)
I bought 2 cheap cords on Amazon which took about 2 weeks to get to me because they came from China. In the beginning the order I plugged in the cords mattered. However, now I just plug them in, in any order and they work just fine. I am sorry you paid top dollar at radio shack for the cord. I almost did too. Here is a link to the one I bought. I was thinking about buying a few more to give to friends. I paid $3.78 with shipping each. Now they are even cheaper. They only utilize MHL 1.0 technology and our phone has 3.0 technology. Here is the link to the one I am currently using on a daily basis to watch movies I have downloaded in HD on my TV from my phone.
New user, so it won't let me post the link but add (amazon dot com forward slash) to the following : eForCity®-Compatible-Micro-HDMI-Adapter/dp/B00827EGG2/ref=pd_rhf_se_s_qp_10_0FRY?ie=UTF8&refRID=05W5ENJ6B2ZNZ2A6AR2Y
This is exactly the same one I found knocking around my house. Same serial number and everything it didn't work at first but after a few tries different hdmi ports and a cleaning of the ports got the adapter working. Took a bit of time to get connected but stuck with it and now I can view my phone on my TV to the post above showing the Samsung adapter
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I bought 2 cheap cords on Amazon which took about 2 weeks to get to me because they came from China. In the beginning the order I plugged in the cords mattered. However, now I just plug them in, in any order and they work just fine. I am sorry you paid top dollar at radio shack for the cord. I almost did too. Here is a link to the one I bought. I was thinking about buying a few more to give to friends. I paid $3.78 with shipping each. Now they are even cheaper. They only utilize MHL 1.0 technology and our phone has 3.0 technology. Here is the link to the one I am currently using on a daily basis to watch movies I have downloaded in HD on my TV from my phone.
New user, so it won't let me post the link but add (amazon dot com forward slash) to the following : eForCity®-Compatible-Micro-HDMI-Adapter/dp/B00827EGG2/ref=pd_rhf_se_s_qp_10_0FRY?ie=UTF8&refRID=05W5ENJ6B2ZNZ2A6AR2Y
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Our phone dosent use mhl 3.0. It uses 1.0
And I quit trying to make it work, after 4 different adapters, 2 HDMI cables and 2 TVs I just gave up
A Generic MHL HDMI adapter will work.
Badelhas said:
Samsung S3 uses a 12 pin connection (I also bought it) and that's not the one, from looking at the photo. Are you sure that's not the adapter from the S2 or something?
I still haven't found any info regarding if the HTC One m8 uses mhl 2.0 or 1.0
Any news regarding this matter?
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I've been using a general MHL adapter that came with the 5 to11 pin Galaxy add-on (which I don't use of course for my HTC). This has worked flawlessly for me no problem for years now. Make sure you have a good power source, the only problems I have had is my phone will say "slow charging", and the Media Device output will not work. Mine is pretty old, over a year & a half I've been using it, so I'm looking for a new one. They have one with a remote which is what led me to the review on here (a diff thread). However, they have the same one I have on Amazon or Walmart for a few bucks, you shouldn't have a problem. I'll add the links below...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00KPXI4S2/ref=olp_twister_child?ie=UTF8&mv_color_name=1
http://www.tvc-mall.com/details/MHL...TV-Adpater-Cable-with-Remote-Control-PCA-380/
Also, I'm on this thread beaise I plan to unlock & root my phone and am concerned that once I do that an adapter will no longer work Any suggestions or experience with this would be appreciated? Thx:fingers-crossed:
M8 mhl cable
I have the m8. I bought a Skiva mhl cable from Amazon. I believe it's hd-x2 cable. Works flawlessly only problem ive encountered is it will not play in 5.1 surround. It only transmits a 2.0 audio feed. Which I don't understand. If I use like all cast to cast the stream to my Xbox it transmits in 5.1. So if anyone knows how to get the cable to do 5.1 let me know.