Got my LGOG to see if digitizer was loose or what not. Do you have to completely reassemble(screws included to get power on? I'd rather know it works before having to put back together. Anybody have any clarification about this? Thanks ^_^
addisonxi said:
Got my LGOG to see if digitizer was loose or what not. Do you have to completely reassemble(screws included to get power on? I'd rather know it works before having to put back together. Anybody have any clarification about this? Thanks ^_^
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as long as all the separate boards are connected to each other properly (if you had to disconnect them) you don't need to fully reassemble it.
As long as it has power from the battery connector, you're good. screws dont matter. just be careful depending on how much of it you have hanging free outside of the case (if any)
the back cover connections are only antennas for NFC and WiFi so they dont need to be connected either.
-edit- the very bottom l shaped one with the speaker is the main antenna, I don't think even that needs to be connected, it might throw a fit in the software but you won't hurt the hardware with that not connected, but its only a press fit plug anyway so..
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as long as all the separate boards are connected to each other properly (if you had to disconnect them) you don't need to fully reassemble it.
As long as it has power from the battery connector, you're good. screws dont matter. just be careful depending on how much of it you have hanging free outside of the case (if any)
the back cover connections are only antennas for NFC and WiFi so they dont need to be connected either.
-edit- the very bottom l shaped one with the speaker is the main antenna, I don't think even that needs to be connected, it might throw a fit in the software but you won't hurt the hardware with that not connected, but its only a press fit plug anyway so..
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Thank you very much! I have to wait for new lcd/digitizer anyway :-/. But atleast now I know for future reference. You the man!
addisonxi said:
Thank you very much! I have to wait for new lcd/digitizer anyway :-/. But atleast now I know for future reference. You the man!
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No problem, here's the service manual for reference also: https://app.box.com/s/aul9oyk1q1bx7ykjala0
courtesy of @adfurgerson for the link
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Just wondering has anyone tried/thought about the feasibility of modding a Palm Pre touchstone charger for use in an atrix? would it be extremely difficult to do so?
thantos said:
Just wondering has anyone tried/thought about the feasibility of modding a Palm Pre touchstone charger for use in an atrix? would it be extremely difficult to do so?
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As per post on engadget it's not so complicated
thantos said:
Just wondering has anyone tried/thought about the feasibility of modding a Palm Pre touchstone charger for use in an atrix? would it be extremely difficult to do so?
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xboxexpert posted a tutorial for this on a nook color here . Looks easy enough and the same method should apply.
Hmmm.. interesting.. only wished someone would have tried previously to know if it'd fit inside the battery cover...
After looking at the iFixIt teardown for the Atrix I'm not thinking this would be a straight forward process.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola-Atrix-4G-Teardown/4964/2
Boards aren't my strong point but it looks as though the +/- may be under the usb connector housing.
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After looking at the iFixIt teardown for the Atrix I'm not thinking this would be a straight forward process.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola-Atrix-4G-Teardown/4964/2
Boards aren't my strong point but it looks as though the +/- may be under the usb connector housing.
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Need a better shot, but it looks like you can still hit the resistor between the two ground posts. Going to need some thin wire though.
I am curious to know if anyone will attempt this.
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I am curious to know if anyone will attempt this.
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Don't think I'm going to sacrifice my Atrix to the hardware mod gods. Enjoying it too much and not terribly interested in dropping the money to replace it if it doesn't work out.
I don't know if I will be doing the mod, but these are some of the tips I would follow if i decided to. If I do it I'll post pictures..
1st:
Be sure to use the Palm Pixi's back cover with the smaller circuit board - this one.
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You might wanna consider buying this case since its thicker and you can dig a little bit if the circuit doesn't fit the standard battery door.
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In many phones the metal that keeps the memory card in place is the ground (-).
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I'm sure there's an easy (+) pin you can solder to - so far i haven't found one, but many people cut a usb plug to fit inside the usb female socket and route the cables somehow (Watch the first video below). You have to remove the cut usb in order to use it with computer, also its quite ugly. The best, but very hard way is to solder the (+) wire directly to where the usb socket is soldered to the phone's circuit board .This I'll leave to a jewelry craftsman, I know, with lots of experience. MAKE SHURE YOU KNOW WHICH PIN IS THE POSITIVE!!! For polarity of the palm pixi's circuit boat refer to the first picture.
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I know its a bit difficult, but... that's the way it is.
Useful links:
Galaxy S Mod.
First HD2 Mod.
Same mod but with extended battery (Not good looking)
You have probably seen this.
A lot of people forget to do this.
YOU ARE WELCOME!!!
I bought some of the pixi components and will try this out without the requirement of soldering.. I've been thinking.. is there any way to use the leads from the battery as the connection point as opposed to soldering directly to the port? Or is there a voltage regulator that I'd have to go through first...
First, you should try if it's really charging Atrix (batt's percentage going up), because it needs more current than standart phone.
But i'm thinking of modyfing my own, but with less invasive method
I wouldn't take apart my atrix again. I may have killed my first one getting my screen out. Those ribbon cables are a pain, and well, you might not need to remove the flex cables (the black flat ones), but if you do, you are most times pulling up the temp sensor too, and that thing never goes back!!
Just make sure you are good at what you do
Why not solder the the inductive piece to a chunk of mini usb cable first ? Completely non invasive and you'll be able to prove it works before you solder to the phone.
That was what I was considering. Unfortunate that the variances for the attrix are so tight.
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Why not solder the the inductive piece to a chunk of mini usb cable first ? Completely non invasive and you'll be able to prove it works before you solder to the phone.
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If you're going to do that, you may as well just buy one that's already made.
I meant to do that as proof of concept. If it charger, take it apart and hide it under the battery cover.
Does anyone tried the Palm inductive charger with Atrix? Does it really work?
I just got mine in - will try it soon.
Let me ask you guys this...
1) Whats the point of all this?
Really? What is the point? The cool form factor? Bragging rights? It seems like
a big inconvenience for me, especially when you will need to take your charger somewhere.
Anyways, seems like a lot of work for just the convenience of not plugging in a mini usb cable.
Anyways, good luck and I hope you guys have fun
Perhaps you are right about it.
But whats the point in buying a lapdock or media dock when you can just get a laptop? What's the point in rooting or unlocking your phone? You could easily just leave it stock and most of the functions will work just fine.
Call it a hobby or challenge or a convenience or whatever. I made this thread merely asking for technical help. Not snide commentary that is counter productive.
I noticed a weird connector at the back of the device, I dont have a way to picture it at the moment but I found it on the internet.
Its under the cover in the red circle I draw,
Do any of you know what its good for?
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I noticed a weird connector at the back of the device, I dont have a way to picture it at the moment but I found it on the internet.
Its under the cover in the red circle I draw,
Do any of you know what its good for?
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I think it is for attaching a stylus.You just loop the thread through it and close the cover.
It's meant for a wristband. You can buy the accessory, loop it through that hole, and then close the back cover (so it never falls off).
Are you sure about it...?
I think you're wrong,
the wristband/small things you put on your phone like small dolls is the yellow square
this one is something different.
It its a connector for an external gsm antenna. However be warned, do not plug any thing in to it as others have reported this will disable the internal antenna and you will not get a signal afterwards without a visit to a service centre or some soldering.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1273292&highlight=antenna
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I've seen that type of connector on other phone's in the past. I always thought it was for an external antenna. I'm not sure though.
Edit: mrm1 just beat me to it ^^^
That was my first impression, after seeing a similar connection for the wifi antenna in laptop's hardware..
Thanks, and of course, Im not planning to connect anything to it anyway
Please help, I miss my tablet.I had the common problem with the power thingy inside the tablet going out so i opened it to solder but did not fix.So i ordered the charging dock and waited for a month and a half.I get it today and was so excited to only plug it it and got power and charging everything is perfect,i go to swipe over on my arrow to unlock the screen and nothing!I have no touch controls on screen what so ever.But the soft keys work,they do not do me any good but they work.The home key takes me to my home page and mag glass goes to the internet.Does any body have any ideas of what could have happened or what i can do to fix this,please????
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Does any body have any ideas of what could have happened or what i can do to fix this,please????
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First, check for disconnected or loose cables inside the gTab.
Next, if it isn't a HW fault like loose cables, then connect the USB cable to the gTab and run this ADB command (you will have to install and set up ADB if you haven't already done so):
Code:
C:\SOME\PATH> [B]adb shell "echo -n 1 > /sys/devices/platform/tegra_touch/calibration"[/B]
Digitizer Cable/Connection
alcapone1130 said:
Please help, I miss my tablet.I had the common problem with the power thingy inside the tablet going out so i opened it to solder but did not fix.So i ordered the charging dock and waited for a month and a half.I get it today and was so excited to only plug it it and got power and charging everything is perfect,i go to swipe over on my arrow to unlock the screen and nothing!I have no touch controls on screen what so ever.But the soft keys work,they do not do me any good but they work.The home key takes me to my home page and mag glass goes to the internet.Does any body have any ideas of what could have happened or what i can do to fix this,please????
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The attached pdf contains photos of the digitizer/cables and their connections inside the gtab. Check for loose connection and/or broken wires on both ends.
Al
aabbondanza said:
The attached pdf contains photos of the digitizer/cables and their connections inside the gtab. Check for loose connection and/or broken wires on both ends.
Al
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Ok,First thank you so much for helping.Ok,One of the cables you shown does have two broken wires,it is the kind of short wire with black cloth like material over it that runs unde the shiny brown plastic piece.Is there a way to fix that or rig it to get me back up and touching again?Thank you again for helping me out,and you already pinpointed my problem,now i am hoping you can fix it,lol.
Where is the break?
alcapone1130 said:
Ok,First thank you so much for helping.Ok,One of the cables you shown does have two broken wires,it is the kind of short wire with black cloth like material over it that runs unde the shiny brown plastic piece.Is there a way to fix that or rig it to get me back up and touching again?Thank you again for helping me out,and you already pinpointed my problem,now i am hoping you can fix it,lol.
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I assume since you didn't send in under warranty for the power connector that it's no longer under warrantly!
Exactly where is the break? Close to (or at) one of the connectors? Which end (motherboard end or digitizer end) of the cable? Obviously closness to the connector makes it more difficult. I have seen a post where another use had the break pretty close to the connector & fixed it though.
Al
I totally forgot that i made a youtube video yesterday,here is the address http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFNRtDhr5EQ I have been so stressed out about getting my gtab back it slipped my mind.Oh, the broken end is what plugs under the silver area not under the brown area.
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I assume since you didn't send in under warranty for the power connector that it's no longer under warrantly!
Exactly where is the break? Close to (or at) one of the connectors? Which end (motherboard end or digitizer end) of the cable? Obviously closness to the connector makes it more difficult. I have seen a post where another use had the break pretty close to the connector & fixed it though.
Al
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I totally forgot that i made a youtube video yesterday,here is the address http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFNRtDhr5EQ I have been so stressed out about getting my gtab back it slipped my mind.Oh, the broken end is what plugs under the silver area not under the brown area.
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I totally forgot that i made a youtube video yesterday,here is the address http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFNRtDhr5EQ I have been so stressed out about getting my gtab back it slipped my mind.Oh, the broken end is what plugs under the silver area not under the brown area.
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If you magnify the digitizer circuit (lower photo in the pdf) you will see the label for each of the lines in the cable. Assuming the lines run straight thru, it looks like the ones that broke are the power & ground to the circuit (VSS & GND). That would explain the touch screen not working at all.
Hard to tell from the video where the breakis, but it looks real close to the connector.
Your best bet may be looking for someone who has a broken digitizer (outer glass) or gTab and is selling it for parts. I looked in the Marketplace forum here on XDA & there is one non working gtablet someone is asking $55 for. I also saw another one up for bid on ebay ($40 latest bid). You my have to ask if the cable is good on them.
Not a whole lot of options for repair. As you've already experienced, the cable is small & fragile.
If the connector has removable pins then you could remove the pins, solder the wire to it & reinsert the pins, BUT from the picture it doesn't look like they are removeable.
You could solder the 2 wires to the pins coming out the back of the socket but they look too small to easily solder to.
The last option would be to rigg the cable to work. There are a couple of possibilites but I would rather you consider the other options before suggesting a repair of the cable itself. If you can, see if you can take a closeup, high res photo of the back fo the connector where the wire broke. PM me & I'll send you my email address to send it too.
Al
aabbondanza said:
If you magnify the digitizer circuit (lower photo in the pdf) you will see the label for each of the lines in the cable. Assuming the lines run straight thru, it looks like the ones that broke are the power & ground to the circuit (VSS & GND). That would explain the touch screen not working at all.
Hard to tell from the video where the breakis, but it looks real close to the connector.
Your best bet may be looking for someone who has a broken digitizer (outer glass) or gTab and is selling it for parts. I looked in the Marketplace forum here on XDA & there is one non working gtablet someone is asking $55 for. I also saw another one up for bid on ebay ($40 latest bid). You my have to ask if the cable is good on them.
Not a whole lot of options for repair. As you've already experienced, the cable is small & fragile.
If the connector has removable pins then you could remove the pins, solder the wire to it & reinsert the pins, BUT from the picture it doesn't look like they are removeable.
You could solder the 2 wires to the pins coming out the back of the socket but they look too small to easily solder to.
The last option would be to rigg the cable to work. There are a couple of possibilites but I would rather you consider the other options before suggesting a repair of the cable itself. If you can, see if you can take a closeup, high res photo of the back fo the connector where the wire broke. PM me & I'll send you my email address to send it too.
Al
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Wow,Thank you so so much,Can you get me in contact with the guy with the gtab for $55.00,i will buy it and transfer the cash to him immediately,that sounds like the best bet.I will msg you a really good photo still,incase i can not get my hands on the one for sale,but if i can let him know or maybe you could let him know that i will buy it quick enough maybe i can end up with it.I would really feel better just swapping the cable out with another.I will talk back with you tomorrow and again thank you for your time and great help,i really owe you.
Marketplace & Non Working Tab Links
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Wow,Thank you so so much,Can you get me in contact with the guy with the gtab for $55.00,i will buy it and transfer the cash to him immediately,that sounds like the best bet.I will msg you a really good photo still,incase i can not get my hands on the one for sale,but if i can let him know or maybe you could let him know that i will buy it quick enough maybe i can end up with it.I would really feel better just swapping the cable out with another.I will talk back with you tomorrow and again thank you for your time and great help,i really owe you.
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Here are several link for you
1. XDA Marketplace http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1321
2. Link to "Wanting to sell" subformum where I found the non working gtab (used forum search for gtablet) http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=476
3. Link to not working gTab http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1436549&highlight=gtablet.
Take a look at this post & email him to make sure you want it.
Al
aabbondanza said:
Here are several link for you
1. XDA Marketplace http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1321
2. Link to "Wanting to sell" subformum where I found the non working gtab (used forum search for gtablet) http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=476
3. Link to not working gTab http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1436549&highlight=gtablet.
Take a look at this post & email him to make sure you want it.
Al
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Its amazing what a couple of stripped bread ties will doo,lol.I took a bread tie and stripped the paper off of it,cut it to the length I needed and wrapped the remaining wire to one end and pushed the other end of the tie inside the pin hole,lol.It worked like a champ! MY Grab has been up and running for over a month,I just knocked on my coffee table,lol.Thank you for helping me out I really appreciated you trying everything to help me.I am so happy to have it back,now if I can just figure out why I keep seeing black boxes on my games when I play them I will really be doing fine.Thank you again.
Do you think it's possible?
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Do you think it's possible?
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I I think the easiest way is for a manufacturer to release a case like that that also included wireless charging capabilities. You're not going to be open up your OG and install the needed hardware yourself without serious modification, though.
EDIT: Actually, I take back what I said about not modifying the OG's hardware. http://lifehacker.com/5923977/mod-your-iphone-for-wireless-charging-no-bulky-case-required
Seems like if you have the will, it might be possible.
Yes it is possible...
I was able to put the coild and little magnets in the back of my phone case... so now it sticks to my touch stone... I have not soldered any wires to 5v or grnd on on the phone at all.. That is beyond by ability currently i will look into it. Looks like the nexus 4 has simple prongs already there (for the orb) but they did not include those prongs in the optimus g sprint or att. so either me or someone that is far more skilled will need to figure out where those points should connect to before doing so.
Sorry guys didnt take picture i was a little early to work this morning and did it at my desk before work started. took about 30min. (remember no wiring just simply put coild and magnets in my phone so it at least sticks to the touch stone in my car)
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Yes it is possible...
I was able to put the coild and little magnets in the back of my phone case... so now it sticks to my touch stone... I have not soldered any wires to 5v or grnd on on the phone at all.. That is beyond by ability currently i will look into it. Looks like the nexus 4 has simple prongs already there (for the orb) but they did not include those prongs in the optimus g sprint or att. so either me or someone that is far more skilled will need to figure out where those points should connect to before doing so.
Sorry guys didnt take picture i was a little early to work this morning and did it at my desk before work started. took about 30min. (remember no wiring just simply put coild and magnets in my phone so it at least sticks to the touch stone in my car)
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Yeah, they have done it on the N7, and several Samsung phones (much easier with removable backs). Not sure how the OG looks under the hood, but maybe someone could try.
Bump. anyone brave enough to see if the Samsung Note 2 or S4 Wireless charger pad's will fit in our phone? here sure would be sweet if it was as easy as opening it up and installing something like this
I was working on my wife's note 2 last night, modifying the phone to use a wireless charging pad. Everything went fine and the phone charges correctly. However, now the large home button on the front of the phone quit working. It doesn't take you back to the home screen or bring up recent apps if you long press it. I've gone back into the phone and can't see any problems or disconnected wires. Another really odd thing.......when you plug in the micro USB cord the recent apps menu pops up!
Any help here is greatly appreciated!!
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I was working on my wife's note 2 last night, modifying the phone to use a wireless chatting pad. Everything went fine and the phone charges correctly. However, now the large home button on the front of the phone quit working. It doesn't take you back to the home screen or bring up recent apps if you long press it. I've gone back into the phone and can't see any problems or disconnected wires. Another really odd thing.......when you plug in the micro USB cord the recent apps menu pops up!
Any help here is greatly appreciated!!
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Some more information would be helpful. First modifying a phone to use a wireless chatting pad ??? Why and what for. Second. Did you actually take the phone apart ("I was working on ..... ") ? Third it sounds like you have shorted out a cable. Plugging in the charger and activating the long press feature sounds too me like when you put the phone back together, the button was not seated corrected, and when you plug in the charger, the pressure from pushing it in is making the connection, or there is a short. Take the phone back part and make sure that the button is seated properly in the socket.
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Some more information would be helpful. First modifying a phone to use a wireless chatting pad ??? Why and what for. Second. Did you actually take the phone apart ("I was working on ..... ") ? Third it sounds like you have shorted out a cable. Plugging in the charger and activating the long press feature sounds too me like when you put the phone back together, the button was not seated corrected, and when you plug in the charger, the pressure from pushing it in is making the connection, or there is a short. Take the phone back part and make sure that the button is seated properly in the socket.
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Doh..."chatting" pad. Darned auto correct. Should have read "charging" pad.
Anyhow, yes I had to take the phone apart to make the modification. It's not a complicated mod. I removed the bezel/backplate of the phone and made a 1cm x 1cm cutout to expose the wireless charging contact points. And the bezel/backplate comes off pretty easily after removing the 9 or so tiny screws. It just snaps off. There aren't any wires or anything attached to it. The home button is below another piece of plastic that I didn't have to mess with. However, I removed that piece of plastic this morning to see if anything appeared out of the ordinary there. Nothing to really see and the button is not even accessable yet.
I'm stumped. Any ideas or suggestions are welcome!!
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Doh..."chatting" pad. Darned auto correct. Should have read "charging" pad.
Anyhow, yes I had to take the phone apart to make the modification. It's not a complicated mod. I removed the bezel/backplate of the phone and made a 1cm x 1cm cutout to expose the wireless charging contact points. And the bezel/backplate comes off pretty easily after removing the 9 or so tiny screws. It just snaps off. There aren't any wires or anything attached to it. The home button is below another piece of plastic that I didn't have to mess with. However, I removed that piece of plastic this morning to see if anything appeared out of the ordinary there. Nothing to really see and the button is not even accessable yet.
I'm stumped. Any ideas or suggestions are welcome!!
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I don't really know much about taking phones apart and whatnot, but for the time being just download the app "Button Savior". You are most likely aware of this app but this can just help for the short run. And as far as this goes, have you tried buying a new home button and installing that? It's quite clear that the mod is causing the issues, never heard of something like this. How easy would it be to revert the effects of the mod in the device itself?
Actually, I'd never heard of that app before! Thanks so much for suggesting it. I never would have thought there would be an app to do that. It did the trick until I can figure out what's going on with the physical button.
As far as the modification, it's really not anything complicated. Below is a link to the youtube video of what was done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2I4D6D3jNc&hd=1
There was no actual modification to the electronics/boards. The mod is to remove the back plate/bezel (not the battery cover) from the phone and make a small cutout exposing the contacts for the wireless reciever, that are on the main board. For some reason the phones come from Samsung with the wireless contact point hidden. So there is nothing to reverse or undo. I have removed the wireless charging reciever pad, just in case it was causing a problem.
As for replacing the home button......I may go that route if I can find one. I'm not sure how to acess it, though. As you can see in the video, you don't actually expose the home button or anything to do with it.
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Actually, I'd never heard of that app before! Thanks so much for suggesting it. I never would have thought there would be an app to do that. It did the trick until I can figure out what's going on with the physical button.
As far as the modification, it's really not anything complicated. Below is a link to the youtube video of what was done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2I4D6D3jNc&hd=1
There was no actual modification to the electronics/boards. The mod is to remove the back plate/bezel (not the battery cover) from the phone and make a small cutout exposing the contacts for the wireless reciever, that are on the main board. For some reason the phones come from Samsung with the wireless contact point hidden. So there is nothing to reverse or undo. I have removed the wireless charging reciever pad, just in case it was causing a problem.
As for replacing the home button......I may go that route if I can find one. I'm not sure how to acess it, though. As you can see in the video, you don't actually expose the home button or anything to do with it.
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The contacts were hidden at the behest of the carriers most likely.
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