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NOTE: I'll get around to organizing this post as soon as I can.
If you remember the ICS Wager Thread from the EVO 3D board, you'll love the JB Wager Thread​
ENGADGET's liveblog from Google I/O 2012
Facts so far:
Official Change Log for JB
HTC's Confirmation for One Series (Still doesn't confirm EVO 4G LTE, but should because of it's specs)
Official release: Mid-July for Galaxy Nexus, Motorola Xoom, and Nexus S.
Here is a video of the 2-hour keynote. Google goes over everything in here, including Jelly Bean, Project Glass, the Nexus Tablet, and many other new innovations from Google this year.
Here's a demonstration of Project Butter. They compare 2 Google Nexus phones side by side, one running ICS and the other running JB, and they do it with a high speed camera.
I would link you but im mobile. This has been posted already.
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I can't wait for Apple to copy all these new features and call it theirs!
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DB13 said:
I can't wait for Apple to copy all these new features and call it theirs!
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Yeah, with patents and all...
I made a wager thread for when we will get JB on the LTE. Just like the 3D ICS thread LOL
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I made a wager thread for when we will get JB on the LTE. Just like the 3D ICS thread LOL
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Released to Galaxy Nexus middle of next month... We'll get it, 2 months after the next EVO is released...
You know, I didn't think Apple had much to be scared of.. until now. Google is innovating circles around other companies, and is making Android one cohesive experience among multiple devices and breaking consumers' images of fragmentation. This spells huge trouble for Apple which has yet to release an arguably already outdated mobile device. Playing catch-up just got a LOT harder.
As for when we'll see it, who knows. I'd be happy with even a Christmas release but not holding my breath.
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You know, I didn't think Apple had much to be scared of.. until now. Google is innovating circles around other companies, and is making Android one cohesive experience among multiple devices and breaking consumers' images of fragmentation. This spells huge trouble for Apple which has yet to release an arguably already outdated mobile device. Playing catch-up just got a LOT harder.
As for when we'll see it, who knows. I'd be happy with even a Christmas release but not holding my breath.
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You do know about Apple's business practices right? Everything that's been announced at this presentation will now be patented by Apple in the next 72 hours, and then added to iOS. At which point, they'll begin to sue everyone.
Got the Netflix app update...The update was for jelly bean support!
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Released to Galaxy Nexus middle of next month... We'll get it, 2 months after the next EVO is released...
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Will that be the next mid range EVO (Design, Shift) or the next big dog EVO? I'm trying to make the cut off Jan 1st 2013.
I don't know if it's just me, but I had a choice to get either this phone or the galaxy nexus and I chose the EVO lte because from what I saw on the nexus forums and reviews, ICS was a little too powerful for the nexus, which causes ICS to not run as smooth as it could. On our phone, it is more powerful and can easily handle ICS. Am I off on this?
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/27/google-io-2012-keynote-liveblog/
or if it'll have to be a next-generation device that will run it.
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I really hope that not even a month and a half into the lifespan of our EVO LTE's that it's still considered a next-gen device!
4.1 seems to be more of an extension of 4.0, not a big jump like it was from 2.3 to 4.0. I would imagine all devices shipping with 4.0 would be able to update to 4.1 without much trouble.
If you remember, the Evo shipped with 2.1, and was updated twice. Once to 2.2, then again to 2.3. So our brand new devices should certainly be updated to at least 4.1, possibly 4.2 whenever the time comes.
What I really wish HTC would do is give us a choice when it comes time for a 4.1 update. A Sense version, or a stock Android version. How great would that be?
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I don't know if it's just me, but I had a choice to get either this phone or the galaxy nexus and I chose the EVO lte because from what I saw on the nexus forums and reviews, ICS was a little too powerful for the nexus, which causes ICS to not run as smooth as it could. On our phone, it is more powerful and can easily handle ICS. Am I off on this?
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Well, the Galaxy Nexus is about 6 months older than the EVO 4G LTE... Specs-wise, the EVO 4G LTE was built to be faster. There should be no reason why we don't get this update. I kid when I say it'll take forever, but in all reality, it's not a full-number version release. This might be something that we see fairly soon. It's like Android 2.2 > Android 2.3.
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I really hope that not even a month and a half into the lifespan of our EVO LTE's that it's still considered a next-gen device!
4.1 seems to be more of an extension of 4.0, not a big jump like it was from 2.3 to 4.0. I would imagine all devices shipping with 4.0 would be able to update to 4.1 without much trouble.
If you remember, the Evo shipped with 2.1, and was updated twice. Once to 2.2, then again to 2.3. So our brand new devices should certainly be updated to at least 4.1, possibly 4.2 whenever the time comes.
What I really wish HTC would do is give us a choice when it comes time for a 4.1 update. A Sense version, or a stock Android version. How great would that be?
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This will never happen. Sense is HTC's bread & butter. It's the majority factor on the decision of buying the device over other devices. While it's a nice thought to think about (if you're not a Sense fanatic like myself), it's not something that we'll likely see. I myself prefer Sense over stock Android. If I want a taste of what stock Android feels like, I'll probably just buy that Nexus Tablet they announced.
Oh yeah, definitely wishful thinking. In my perfect world that would be a reality though. I'm sure that stock 4.1 will make its way to our device at some point via Cyanogen.
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Oh yeah, definitely wishful thinking. In my perfect world that would be a reality though. I'm sure that stock 4.1 will make its way to our device at some point via Cyanogen.
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Yup. We just need Kernel source
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I personally like stock over sense but i just couldn't justify buying last years specs. Im really hoping for a solid android 4.1 stock rom in the next month.
the listing of upgrades for 4.1 aren't anything to get overly excited over, as others mentioned, it's not like going from 2.3 to 4 here, probably won't notice much difference. Just my guess
I don't know ,project butter looks smooth ,the notification stuff is great,the voice stuff .seems pretty substantial.
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Project Butter is the part I'm most excited about.
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I'm thinking about trading my Galaxy S3 and cash if need be for an Optimus G. Someone I know just got one and after playing with it I can tell it's noticeably faster than my phone, not by much, but the Quadcore S4 Pro is faster than the Dual-core S4 Plus in the S3 =(. If it were just an even trade I'd do it but I assume people will want cash since this phone is a bit newer and technically a tad bit more powerful. However, I feel as if the S3 has a better design (not boring square) and having Jelly Bean 4.1.1 and a ton of ROMS both touchwiz and AOSP to choose from is important to me. So I'd be losing out big time on that since I'd be running only ICS and virtually the only one ROM available. What should I do, I want the latest and greatest hardware but maybe I should wait for more ROMs and developer support?
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I'm thinking about trading my Galaxy S3 and cash if need be for an Optimus G. Someone I know just got one and after playing with it I can tell it's noticeably faster than my phone, not by much, but the Quadcore S4 Pro is faster than the Dual-core S4 Plus in the S3 =(. If it were just an even trade I'd do it but I assume people will want cash since this phone is a bit newer and technically a tad bit more powerful. However, I feel as if the S3 has a better design (not boring square) and having Jelly Bean 4.1.1 and a ton of ROMS both touchwiz and AOSP to choose from is important to me. So I'd be losing out big time on that since I'd be running only ICS and virtually the only one ROM available. What should I do, I want the latest and greatest hardware but maybe I should wait for more ROMs and developer support?
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I can see where you are coming from. Right now this phone is brand new. I came most recently from the Skyrocket and was thinking the same thing you were. This phone is expected to get a port or aosp soon from what the forums say. For right now you can add most of the Jelly Bean things to this platform using the software in the forum. My personal opinion is this phone will have a better life. The S3 is contending with its new big brother the Note 2. Samsung phones have been easier to play around with the most. The dev teams are working hard to get Jelly Bean to us, but you have to think it is the holidays still. I have no doubt that if you get this phone you will be happy with it. Never hurts to try something new you might be suprised.
hold on to the S3 until JB for the Optimus G comes out. then sell the S3 for cash and renew ATT contract to get the Optimus G for $99 at Amazon or Best Buy.
First post and you've been a member for over six years. That's impressive.
However, by the time JB comes out for the E970 AT&T will have something better for sale.
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First post and you've been a member for over six years. That's impressive.
However, by the time JB comes out for the E970 AT&T will have something better for sale.
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impressive, yes, and thanks! but LG "promised" it for december on a press release. google for it.
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impressive, yes, and thanks! but LG "promised" it for december on a press release. google for it.
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I'm sorry, but cell company promises don't mean anything. My money is on late January.
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I just went from an S3 to the Optimus G. I absolutely loved my S3. Unfortunately, it broke so long story short, I went to the OG.
I love both phones. I feel the OG is a little faster (but not by much) and the picture is without a doubt more crisp. You can definitely see more when you're out in the daylight. However, the camera is better on the S3 in my opinion and the speaker blows on the OG. So it does have its downsides. Not to mention, development is incredibly slow compared to the S3 so if you're into flashing roms and all that good stuff, you might want to keep your S3. They're all saying just wait a bit but as it stands right now, the devs are loving the S3 apparently.
Either way, you can't go wrong
Personally, I love the LGOG. My roommate got the SG3 just a couple weeks before I upgraded from a HTC Inspire 4g. It's what kinda swayed me into getting the LGOG. (Was never going to get another HTC after what they did to Inspire.) Anyway, I play with my roommate's phone and she plays with mine. She's wishing she had gotten the LGOG while I'm saying "here, take your piece of plastic back." It really is a matter of preference. Good luck!
It was between a S3 and the OG of me coming from an inspire 4g as well. I just ended up not wanting an "oversized Fischer Price toy" Lol. But once again it entirely comes down to personal preference. All I know is I love my OG and can't wait for the development to really take off.
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i sold my red SG3, and bought the LOG and love it, only I miss from the SG3 is led notification on the front other than that way better in every aspect
I prefer the OG notification LED on the side more because I always place my cell phone face down on surface to protect the screen. My wife is using a galaxy note 2 and I don't like where Samsung placed the notification LED on hers either.
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I prefer the OG notification LED on the side more because I always place my cell phone face down on surface to protect the screen. My wife is using a galaxy note 2 and I don't like where Samsung placed the notification LED on hers either.
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S3's notification was HUGE which is a plus, but it looks really tacky on the white s3 since it bleeds through the white color.
I have them both and they are very good phones. I'm split between them and I think I'll keep both. S3 feels lite and sleek, OG feels heavy and more scared I'll brake it. They are very fast, the screens s3 has beautiful blacks and color and the OG has sharp and bright. The s3 screen is more like a Pioneer Plasma Tv and the OG screen looks like Sony
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I have them both and they are very good phones. I'm split between them and I think I'll keep both. S3 feels lite and sleek, OG feels heavy and more scared I'll brake it. They are very fast, the screens s3 has beautiful blacks and color and the OG has sharp and bright. The s3 screen is more like a Pioneer Plasma Tv and the OG screen looks like Sony
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I have both (except I have the unlocked quad core S3) as well as a few other devices. The Optimus G is suffering from the original Epic syndrome where it seemed to be behind development and software wise but after two years the OG Epic slide out keyboard phone has the current JellyBam available for it. If you can deal with being a little patient, the LGOG is raw power waiting to be unlocked. Being new to AT&T, I don't know where development is compared to the international S3 which has multi window and other Note 2 features ported. Even with all of that, my S3 is tied for 3rd place with LGOG and Note 2 1 and 1a.
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I appreciate all the replies I have decided to stick with the S3 for now as Jelly Bean and ROM availability is something I just cannot give up. But the Optimus G is no doubt a great phone with the best hardware available. However I am going to just wait it out, maybe until more development or for a 1080p Optimus G2 or S4 maybe?
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hold on to the S3 until JB for the Optimus G comes out. then sell the S3 for cash and renew ATT contract to get the Optimus G for $99 at Amazon or Best Buy.
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I was also thinking about that too, because I know if I unlocked my S3 I could get a pretty penny on eBay for it probably. My upgrade isn't until October though so by then I'm sure a new generation of the Optimus G and the S4 will be out.
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I have them both and they are very good phones. I'm split between them and I think I'll keep both. S3 feels lite and sleek, OG feels heavy and more scared I'll brake it. They are very fast, the screens s3 has beautiful blacks and color and the OG has sharp and bright. The s3 screen is more like a Pioneer Plasma Tv and the OG screen looks like Sony
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Yea like it's really Apple's and Orange's, playing with the Optimus G I can notice right away how nice and crisp the screen is. Outdoor visibility on the Optimus G is better, but it's a trade off to me for no Jelly Bean and virtually no development support.
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Yea like it's really Apple's and Orange's, playing with the Optimus G I can notice right away how nice and crisp the screen is. Outdoor visibility on the Optimus G is better, but it's a trade off to me for no Jelly Bean and virtually no development support.
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The deciding factor for me was the SoC. You have the S4 Pro and the new Adreno GPU (assuming you compare both AT&T versions). The G will get it's development soon, I mean I doubt the S3 had amazing development during it's first two months. They are both great phones however, and I have soft spot for Samsung after my indestructible Captivate.
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The G will get it's development soon, I mean I doubt the S3 had amazing development during it's first two months.
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You're kidding, right? Rooted before release, roms the first day of release, AOSP in both CM10 and AOKP within a week or two of release... And that was just for the AT&T & T-Mo versions. Plus you had Cyanogen himself doing the CM builds, along with Task doing the AOKP build for AT&T. I believe Roman and Nighthawk (two of the people in charge of AOKP) were doing the builds for the T-Mo variant.
The ONLY thing that's making me consider the OG (and an LG in general) is because of the Nexus and the dev work that MIGHT be able to be ported over. I got burned with the Thrill (literally, got so hot it burned my hand), and I followed the lack of development on the Nitro as well.
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impressive, yes, and thanks! but LG "promised" it for december on a press release. google for it.
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It's almost march...
OK, so i was thinking about either getting this phone or waiting to see what shows up at CES.
I know CES is tomorrow so i was wondering if a phone that has better specs comes out.
If You guys can recommend a phone or even give a suggestion i would greatly appreciate it.
I'm used to the Motorola atrix 2 if that helps
I need it to be AT&T and be running at least ICS but preferably JB
I have to wait til March for an upgrade
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The LGOG has ICS but runs like JB. Imagine the power it'll have when it gets JB.
The way mobile technology has been speeding along, by March, something with better specs will definitely be out/announced. Then you'll just have a short wait till you can get your hands on it. Today, I would absolutely recommend this phone. Best specs out there but, cmon, by March you probably need to be looking ahead.
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There will always a better phone around the corner. At some point you have jump in.
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In all honesty... I would wait to take a look at what the Galaxy S4 will bring since you have to wait until March anyway.
Galaxy S4 will have a huge selection of accessories and ROMs
However,
I have chosen the LGOG for the following reasons:
1. My upgrade was close to its release.
2. I paid $100 for a phone-beast.
3. It is the first quad-core phone with LTE on AT&T.
4. The display is not 5 inches or more.
5. It is basically a nicer Nexus 4. (I have learned that hardware as close to the current Nexus device as possible is a very safe bet)
6. The last phone that I though was this sexy was a Nexus One. This thing is gorgeous.
thanks guys
Thank you to all who replied
I think all the wow factor phones are getting held up for mobile world congress next month. All I really saw so far that was interesting was the new xperia ZL or whatever it was, but given sony's track record there will be an updated version by march.
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If you're going to be waiting until spring, I'd keep my eyes out for devices using the upcoming SnapDragon 600 or 800 processors that were just announced. The specs on these chipsets are amazing...40 to 75 percent more powerful than our Snapdragon S4 Pro processors.
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If you're going to be waiting until spring, I'd keep my eyes out for devices using the upcoming SnapDragon 600 or 800 processors that were just announced. The specs on these chipsets are amazing...40 to 75 percent more powerful than our Snapdragon S4 Pro processors.
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DAMMIT QUALCOMM... take a break... let me enjoy this feeling for a while.
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DAMMIT QUALCOMM... take a break... let me enjoy this feeling for a while.
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That's the way of the gadget world. As soon as you buy the latest and greatest, it's already obsolete.
Take comfort that everyone who buys one of those new Qualcomm chipped phones will be surpassed just as quickly by the next thing to come out.
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Take comfort that everyone who buys one of those new Qualcomm chipped phones will be surpassed just as quickly by the next thing to come out.
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I can't wait. :B
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Take comfort that everyone who buys one of those new Qualcomm chipped phones will be surpassed just as quickly by the next thing to come out.
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This makes me feel better... slightly.
I won't ever consider a Sony phone, especially on AT&T, given that their phones come with locked bootloaders that can't be unlocked. International versions are easily unlocked. By Sony. Just not the US versions. I should know, I had a Sony Xperia Play phone for a while and I recently returned an Xperia TL.
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The thing that kills me, and this isn't an attack, is that a lot of people are like "I would NEVER get this phone because it's made by this!"
Like me, I personally don't like Samsung. And I make it a point to not buy their phones.
Sony's I have no experience with and I've only had an LG twice (this phone and a flip phone when I was 14).
But my point is people say they hate LG for whatever reason and then sell this phone and by the N4, which yknow, made by LG.
Again, not at attack! I was simply doing research on when the N5 was coming out and all these people are like, I HATE LG, NEXUS ALL THE WAY (sent from my N4). It's just laughable.
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The thing that kills me, and this isn't an attack, is that a lot of people are like "I would NEVER get this phone because it's made by this!"
Like me, I personally don't like Samsung. And I make it a point to not buy their phones.
Sony's I have no experience with and I've only had an LG twice (this phone and a flip phone when I was 14).
But my point is people say they hate LG for whatever reason and then sell this phone and by the N4, which yknow, made by LG.
Again, not at attack! I was simply doing research on when the N5 was coming out and all these people are like, I HATE LG, NEXUS ALL THE WAY (sent from my N4). It's just laughable.
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I hope they were being ironic... and not moronic.
I only had Sony's first Android phone.
It was meh, I heard they did better after that.
It is AT&T I would never buy.
They are a terrible and lock down all their phones.
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I'm going to have to say the latter, lol.
Funny enough one of those people was AndreaCr.
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I hope they were being ironic... and not moronic.
I only had Sony's first Android phone.
It was meh, I heard they did better after that.
It is AT&T I would never buy.
They are a terrible and lock down all their phones.
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FWIW, they did much better. Their newest Xperia Z(L) looks like magnificent work of art.
As long as you're waiting, see what the S4 has to offer. Samsung's have custom ROM's about 7 hours after the first go on sale. Also, by then, the development on this phone should really be kicking into high gear (knock on wood). Also, you might catch wind of the LGOG2 then.
However, at some point there is about only so much power you're going to need in a handset that everything else becomes overkill. These phones are almost as powerful/fast as a mid-level laptop, but you don't want to type out a long word doc on them or edit an excel file. Finally, this will probably cost a coke and a smile by then compared to the S4 or LGOG2.
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I'm going to have to say the latter, lol.
Funny enough one of those people was AndreaCr.
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Haha! Now in the N4 forums.
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FWIW, they did much better. Their newest Xperia Z(L) looks like magnificent work of art.
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Yeah, I love the aesthetics of the xperia phones... haven't looked that one up yet though.
I would never judge a phone by it's manufacturer.
Look at Motorola. We went from the original Verizon Droid to the piece of sh**t Backflip on AT&T. Then we have the Atrix 4g, which in my experience had nice specs, but overall was a terrible quality phone.
HTC use to be the kind of Android phones, and now they have dropped off. (Look at their latest earnings).
Also do not forget the earliest Android offering by Samsung that I can remember - Samsung Moment for Sprint. That thing was all kids of ugly and slow.
I used to work for an eBay reseller, and played with 100 - 150 phones per day. Manufacturer is really irrelevant. You have to look at the unit as in individual.
For everyone that had a parent that would smack them one minute then hug them the next, I dare you to read on...
http://phandroid.com/2013/10/15/and...bile-htc-one-this-week-droid-dna-in-december/
Considering they promised an update in September I wouldn't count on it.
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Geeze I'm going to get a nexus 5 and be up .3 levels ha.
Probably will show up on Dec 31 at 11:58 so its technically before the end of the year
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I think Phandroid is off base here. Jason Mackenzie's tweet mentions the T-Mobile HTC One specifically, not the DNA. Then @AndrewGriffitt asks when the DNA will get its update, and Mackenzie responds with the December time frame, but nowhere does he mention that it will be 4.3. The DNA's update is 4.2 (4.2.2?) according to what we've last heard from Verizon, and now it sounds like that update won't come till December.
Am I reading this wrong? Or should I be expecting 4.3 now?
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I think Phandroid is off base here. Jason Mackenzie's tweet mentions the T-Mobile HTC One specifically, not the DNA. Then @AndrewGriffitt asks when the DNA will get its update, and Mackenzie responds with the December time frame, but nowhere does he mention that it will be 4.3. The DNA's update is 4.2 (4.2.2?) according to what we've last heard from Verizon, and now it sounds like that update won't come till December.
Am I reading this wrong? Or should I be expecting 4.3 now?
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I think @jasonmacHTC mentioned in earlier tweets that the next update for the DNA will be the 4.2 update w/ Sense 5.0. I don't think there is an ETA on the 4.3 update with Sense 5.5. I think that's HTC's plan (based on rumors I've read)....eventually, but it definitely won't be this year. This year, its all about 4.2 and Sense 5.0
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I think HTC would slap 4.3 on it today if Verizon would let them. Verizon has to add Navigator and all that other stuff. Look at the ONE. Verizon is the last to update. I've learned that updates don't come with Verizon. I don't root my phones so I just live with what I bought. If I happen to get an update then that's all the better. Verizon still lists this phone at $199. They treat it like a flip phone.
it's pretty basic really. Verizon is in the phone business, they want to sell phones and contracts. If they update our phones to the latest and greatest well then we wouldn't want to change our phones every two years. Android is basically the same across all phones minus the hardware and camera tweaks. So I'm running Sense 5 on my phone and I have access to features that are only on the HTC One like Zoe... Why would I swap my phone for a One at this point? I wouldn't.... see my point? Can't really blame Verizon for their business model. So we root and load ports and AOSP ROMs to get the latest features Verizon refuses to provide so they can make a few extra phone sales and extend some contracts.
I'm still only going to expect a 4.2/4.2.2 update with some iteration of Sense 5 by the year's end (hopefully). Until some new information comes to light anyway.
I also fully expect that to be the final OTA of any significance for this phone, knowing Verizon.
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it's pretty basic really. Verizon is in the phone business, they want to sell phones and contracts. If they update our phones to the latest and greatest well then we wouldn't want to change our phones every two years. Android is basically the same across all phones minus the hardware and camera tweaks. So I'm running Sense 5 on my phone and I have access to features that are only on the HTC One like Zoe... Why would I swap my phone for a One at this point? I wouldn't.... see my point? Can't really blame Verizon for their business model. So we root and load ports and AOSP ROMs to get the latest features Verizon refuses to provide so they can make a few extra phone sales and extend some contracts.
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I would rather have a faster processor with more RAM than a 2 year old phone running the newest version of Android. I'll take speed over a revamped app drawer anyday. An update to Android (yipeee!) isnt going to make me want to hang on to an old phone at the rate that this cell phone technology improves. I wouldnt swap my DNA for a One either. But for a LG G2, a Note 3, a One Max, maybe!
" So we root and load ports and AOSP ROMs to get the latest features Verizon refuses to provide so they can make a few extra phone sales and extend some contracts."
Exactly. It's Verizon's genius business model that fuels all of this, or a lot of it anyway.
ChristianJay said:
I would rather have a faster processor with more RAM than a 2 year old phone running the newest version of Android. I'll take speed over a revamped app drawer anyday. An update to Android (yipeee!) isnt going to make me want to hang on to an old phone at the rate that this cell phone technology improves. I wouldnt swap my DNA for a One either. But for a LG G2, a Note 3, a One Max, maybe!
" So we root and load ports and AOSP ROMs to get the latest features Verizon refuses to provide so they can make a few extra phone sales and extend some contracts."
Exactly. It's Verizon's genius business model that fuels all of this, or a lot of it anyway.
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But even the technology spread to the phones you mention are not that far off the hardware we already have. I think we will start to see a small plateau on hardware improvement for a little while until new architecture comes out like 64bit processors (like the iPhone 5s) So at this point software and camera features will start to be the real selling point for phones
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But even the technology spread to the phones you mention are not that far off the hardware we already have. I think we will start to see a small plateau on hardware improvement for a little while until new architecture comes out like 64bit processors (like the iPhone 5s) So at this point software and camera features will start to be the real selling point for phones
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I see what your saying. I guess I just miss the days when every year you could look forward to something new. That and I've always been the type of person that wants the latest and greatest, within reason of course, not one of these I-sheep standing in line for a new I-phone, or paying too much as a early adopter. Lol.
When my Droid X's contract was up last October, it seemed like a dinosaur in comparison to what was out, the S3 being the cream at the time. Then when I heard about the DNA I was hyped. 1080p, wireless charging, great processor, etc. I got it for $120 online and was happy as heck. Still seems quick and the video looks superb.
4.3 sense 5 enhanced hit the one today hope that helps our device
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4.3 sense 5 enhanced hit the one today hope that helps our device
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That was for T-Mobile wasn't it?
Hopefully someone will be able to port it. Seems like that's all we ever wait on is a port.
Hey guys, I currently have the Samsung Galaxy S4 and I'm planning on replacing it with either the Nexus 5 or the G2. I still can't decide which phone to choose. I like the fast updates on the Nexus 5, as well as the UI, however they can be gotten as well through custom roms. On G2, I like the slightly bigger screen, the edge to edge feel of it (it's more noticeable on the G2 than on the N5), removable battery and sd card support (and maybe the camera too). So, as you might notice, I'm leaning more towards the G2. I just want to know how the AOSP scene is on G2 (since I definitely won't be sticking with LG's OS)? Are the bugs pretty much ironed out? Does it get fairly fast updates too (like, how long after KitKat went out did G2 get a KitKat rom)? I assume the pretty identical specs of both phones helped out G2's development, or am I wrong?
So anyway, thanks in advance to whoever answers my questions
PS: Just want to know how G2 is doing in AOSP Development as compared to N5. Please don't make this a straight-up comparison. Thanks
Ask the same question in N5 general IMO you are probably going to get more development for the N5. But the ROMs here are pretty good.
I went for the G2 because you can always change software, but you are stuck with the hardware.
I prefer the long battery life, the better camera and the overall design of the G2. I don't know your needs though.
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Well, the mods are going to close this thread soon, but go with the G2. We already have a stock 4.4 rom (check original section), with additional mods getting made to it. So, updates really shouldn't be a problem... But if want official updates then lol. LG probably rolls out updates slower than any company out here, even for their flagship phones.
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Well, that won't be a problem, since I have no interest whatsoever in using LG's OS lol. Thanks for your input. Hope the mods don't close this, at least for a little while longer
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Ask the same question in N5 general IMO you are probably going to get more development for the N5. But the ROMs here are pretty good.
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Well, I doubt N5's users would know how G2's development is stacking up compared to theirs
The phones cost the same here in my country, I think the 32GB version of the Nexus 5 (which isn't available yet, only the 16GB) would be even more expensive than the 32GB G2. So just a couple of questions: Are there still bugs in the 4.4 ROM of G2? And how long after 4.4 went out did G2 get it? 1 week? 2 weeks? LOL
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Well, that won't be a problem, since I have no interest whatsoever in using LG's OS lol. Thanks for your input. Hope the mods don't close this, at least for a little while longer
Well, I doubt N5's users would know how G2's development is stacking up compared to theirs
The phones cost the same here in my country, I think the 32GB version of the Nexus 5 (which isn't available yet, only the 16GB) would be even more expensive than the 32GB G2. So just a couple of questions: Are there still bugs in the 4.4 ROM of G2? And how long after 4.4 went out did G2 get it? 1 week? 2 weeks? LOL
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I don't think we know that much more about N5 development than they do about G2 development
The first 4.4 alpha ROM arrived last thursday. It still has bugs, but I have used it as a daily driver. The only problem that I had was that it wouldn't run ART yet. There may be other problems that I didn't run into. But it still says alpha so it's not completely done yet
You can read the discussion if you want to learn more:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502789
ive had both and G2 is better imo
there's something about the N5 screen, its just not as nice as the G2
anyway, have a play with both and make your own mind up, its the only way!
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there's something about the N5 screen,
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Exactly. That was one of my reason to chose the G2 above the N5 as well. Compared 4 N5s from colleagues with a G2 and all the N5 Screens looked bit odd compared to the G2.
And i +1 that "you can change Software but you can't change Hardware"
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Exactly. That was one of my reason to chose the G2 above the N5 as well. Compared 4 N5s from colleagues with a G2 and all the N5 Screens looked bit odd compared to the G2.
And i +1 that "you can change Software but you can't change Hardware"
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G2 the best.
g2 is better for me. camera, and especially the most important thing is the battery. this thing is a beast. what good a phone is if you're often attached to a wall charger.
G2 With pa 4.0, is better than nexus 5,better battery, screen and câmera
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...you can always change software, but you are stuck with the hardware.
I prefer the long battery life, the better camera and the overall design of the G2.
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I think this pretty much sums it up. These were exactly my thoughts when I was deciding between the two also, and that's not even mentioning the IR blaster and soem nice featires the LG ROM has that you might like (knock on and off, QSlide apps, etc.)
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IR blaster
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OP wants to run AOSP, so I just thought I would mention that the IR blaster app is ported to AOSP based ROMs and it works fine.
The camera app is also ported with a few bugs but mostly working.
Thanks for all your input guys!
Well, looks like I'll be joining you guys sometime soon I just checked this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512881 and even with all the obvious fanboyism of the N5 owner's, they all agree that the N5's battery is bad. Almost every thread I read there, I see someone complaining with his battery life. Lol )
Just hope G2's development doesn't let me down
EDIT: I do have one more question though. Is it true that the screen is much brighter on the N5 than on the G2? Or is it only because of the software? Is the screen on G2 AOSP as bright as on the N5?
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Thanks for all your input guys!
Well, looks like I'll be joining you guys sometime soon I just checked this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512881 and even with all the obvious fanboyism of the N5 owner's, they all agree that the N5's battery is bad. Almost every thread I read there, I see someone complaining with his battery life. Lol )
Just hope G2's development doesn't let me down
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Here is the thing... The Nexus 5 is for folks that want the latest AOSP. But to be honest, I don't see what the difference is. AOSP looks dated and bland, and it makes your new phone look like every other AOSP phone. To me the appeal is not there.
The stock LG UI has more features and functionality. It's a better OS. Yes, there are ROM's, but at the end of the day what do they bring? Few points in a benchmark?
They are typically less featured(because some things end up not being supported properly), they typically have bugs and require workarounds or sacrificing of features, and are less stable.
If your phone is a tool that you rely on daily, get the G2 and leave it stock. It is amazing.
If you just want a toy to tinker with and occasionally make calls or do work, then get the N5 and ROM till your heart's content.
Just swapped the N5 for a G2, why? Well mainly because the N5 has terrible quality issues right now. I had 5 with poor screens, dead pixels and dust under the screen. The G2 software is very odd after running stock, but a few mods here and there have fixed that. No quality issues and its running very nicely, the screen is lovely.
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fyre31 said:
Thanks for all your input guys!
Well, looks like I'll be joining you guys sometime soon I just checked this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512881 and even with all the obvious fanboyism of the N5 owner's, they all agree that the N5's battery is bad. Almost every thread I read there, I see someone complaining with his battery life. Lol )
Just hope G2's development doesn't let me down
EDIT: I do have one more question though. Is it true that the screen is much brighter on the N5 than on the G2? Or is it only because of the software? Is the screen on G2 AOSP as bright as on the N5?
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The G2 is brighter if anything, but its control software is a bit odd. Auto doesnt seem to do much, but 100% is eye burningly bright.
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Here is the thing... The Nexus 5 is for folks that want the latest AOSP. But to be honest, I don't see what the difference is. AOSP looks dated and bland, and it makes your new phone look like every other AOSP phone. To me the appeal is not there.
The stock LG UI has more features and functionality. It's a better OS. Yes, there are ROM's, but at the end of the day what do they bring? Few points in a benchmark?
They are typically less featured(because some things end up not being supported properly), they typically have bugs and require workarounds or sacrificing of features, and are less stable.
If your phone is a tool that you rely on daily, get the G2 and leave it stock. It is amazing.
If you just want a toy to tinker with and occasionally make calls or do work, then get the N5 and ROM till your heart's content.
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I personally don't like LG's OS and have no intention of using it at least for long. I've balanced flashing and using my phone as a phone since the days of my Spica. I've liked AOSP for a long time now but has always been put off by the hardware (where Google always seems to put something below the standards) of the Nexus line. At least until the N5, and even then people are complaining of its battery life. So I thought I should look into its "sibling", the LG G2.
Besides, what would I be doing on XDA if I just buy a phone and leave it as it is? lol
I've had both (I'm on Sprint.) I decided to stick with the LG-G2 because it's so nice. Screen size, colors, battery, camera, buttons on the back, and double tap to turn on/off. The G2 is just a better device, however, if you're planning on getting your next device for development, the N5 will win hands down because it's a universal phone (3 of the 4 major U.S. carriers can use the same model number.
Although, the G2's current development isn't lacking, either (unless you're on Sprint).
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