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I have been on sprint for the last 3 years and im about to make the switch to Big red.. im going to miss the easy rootability <--new word) coming from sprint.
im about to get the s4 from radio shack for $120
and has anyone used the uag case??
Happy rooting!!
Don't do it
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qs504792 said:
I have been on sprint for the last 3 years and im about to make the switch to Big red.. im going to miss the easy rootability <--new word) coming from sprint.
im about to get the s4 from radio shack for $120
and has anyone used the uag case??
Happy rooting!!
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Welcome to service and data everywhere you might be able to find one at a local VZW authorized retailer.
And to the second poster, why not? VZW has best coverage.
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Yes Verizon has awesome coverage, no denying it. But they are horrible about doing their worst to lock down thier devices. If you want to root make sure your new device is on the mdk baseband and so not allow them to update you.
As for the uag case, I have it and LOVE IT!!
I also recently swapped from sprint to Verizon. Much better service, you won't be disappointed in that department.
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Finding an unupdated s4 is like finding a diamond in a desert.
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I bought my s4 last Monday direct from vzw and received it Wednesday with MDK.
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I got a s4 from vzw store today. Still still shipping with mdk. Im rooted already with hyperdrive installed. All good no more shady updates
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hlxanthus said:
Yes Verizon has awesome coverage, no denying it. But they are horrible about doing their worst to lock down thier devices. If you want to root make sure your new device is on the mdk baseband and so not allow them to update you.
As for the uag case, I have it and LOVE IT!!
I also recently swapped from sprint to Verizon. Much better service, you won't be disappointed in that department.
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im lovin my s4 and uag white case! but im loving crazy 4g even more!!!
running "clean" rom.
i would like to try hyper but i fail every time i try to flash
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Don't do it
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lol should have took this advice hahah
Since the bootloader is still unlockable, what are your thoughts on the continual development of ROMS, etc on the S4 ? Do you feel that future of S4 development is doomed? I recently just purchased my s4 and was one of the lucky few who were able to unlock theirrs prior to the mess. However, now I feel that I might have regretted buying one.
Thoughts?
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Since the bootloader is still unlockable, what are your thoughts on the continual development of ROMS, etc on the S4 ? Do you feel that future of S4 development is doomed? I recently just purchased my s4 and was one of the lucky few who were able to unlock theirrs prior to the mess. However, now I feel that I might have regretted buying one.
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Esquew me? Me no thinks it's unlockable
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I think you meant that you rooted it and got custom recovery installed on the pre-updated MDK. No one has unlocked the bootloader on any S4 came with it locked.
There never was an unlocked bootloader save for the developer edition only available direct from Samsung.
Development for the i545 is far from dying if you look through the forum. The fact that the bounty for root and recovery on ME7 is several thousand dollars should be telling.
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I agree. This is one of the most popular devices out at the moment. I dont see development dying out anytime soon.
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Its fine at the moment and in the near future but could see it lose some people once Note 3 and other devices come out esp if bootloader exploit isn't found on new update
There will always be TW & cm ROMs. I think the question should've been "How long until no one has a mdk device?" Unless a new exploit is found of course...
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Have you looked in the development sections to see that there are plenty of developers committed to the furthering of development?
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theboo7 said:
There will always be TW & cm ROMs. I think the question should've been "How long until no one has a mdk device?" Unless a new exploit is found of course...
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I agree this may be the only problem... As people lose devices and get warranty replacements with the new firmware the development will slowly die off with no unlock available
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brycekerr said:
I agree this may be the only problem... As people lose devices and get warranty replacements with the new firmware the development will slowly die off with no unlock available
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You bring up a good point... buy a very good case for your phone! At this point if you crack the screen, water damage, etc... you would be screwed and forced to stay stock me7 or sell your refurbished phone
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bajasur said:
You bring up a good point... buy a very good case for your phone! At this point if you crack the screen, water damage, etc... you would be screwed and forced to stay stock me7 or sell your refurbished phone
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Im there now had to order a new one. Mine seems fried and wont connect to LTE with new sim and everything. My luck the new one will be on ME7
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Im there now had to order a new one. Mine seems fried and wont connect to LTE with new sim and everything. My luck the new one will be on ME7
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That's a bummer.. sorry man. Just have to keep praying someone will unlock this thing...
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I assume the devs that have a verizon s4 themselves will continue to develop for the phone. Also it is possible to use some roms cross carrier if you use a verizon kernel and change the apn.
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I assume the devs that have a verizon s4 themselves will continue to develop for the phone. Also it is possible to use some roms cross carrier if you use a verizon kernel and change the apn.
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This. But there's evidence all around (check forums) that devs tend to stop developing for devices with to small of a user base.
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True but there is definitely not a small user base for the s4. Its one of the most popular devices at the moment.
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True but there is definitely not a small user base for the s4. Its one of the most popular devices at the moment.
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Even if people start breaking/losing their MDK phones, there's still GPE and Dev versions. Should still see development for those, which will be of help to us MDK folks as well.
If you end up having to exchange it, and you get an ME7, could always sell it and put that cash towards a Dev edition as well.
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Even if people start breaking/losing their MDK phones, there's still GPE and Dev versions. Should still see development for those, which will be of help to us MDK folks as well.
If you end up having to exchange it, and you get an ME7, could always sell it and put that cash towards a Dev edition as well.
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GE phones are fine and dandy but none exist for VZW, just like VZW has no nexus phones, because they want complete control over the devices and the software.
I currently have an S3 and when my contracts runs out I will either move to another carrier and buy GE phones or buy Dev phones off contract for verizon, but I'm more inclined to go elsewhere and go with GE phones.
When it's announced(hopefully) I'll be ordering my developer edition note 3. As far as the gs4 goes, I only know of 1 developer who stopped developing for the gs4. No one else who has started has quit.
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Since the bootloader is still unlockable, what are your thoughts on the continual development of ROMS, etc on the S4 ? Do you feel that future of S4 development is doomed? I recently just purchased my s4 and was one of the lucky few who were able to unlock theirrs prior to the mess. However, now I feel that I might have regretted buying one.
Thoughts?
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I've had similar concerns. I took it as a reason to learn some of this stuff on my own. I've been building cm 10.2 from source to start. That said, I'm less concerned about development now but I will continue to learn how to do as much as I can on my own. I just hope I never physically damage the phone beyond usability. This is the first time I've had a case on a phone. I hate cases but it's worth reducing the chance of a cracked screen.
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I want to hope team synergy has something major up their sleeves for us... trevE is literally a genius so I'm anxious for an announcement from that crew.
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Has anyone recently gotten a S4 refurb? I ask because I have a slight screen issue (screen fades brighter at the bottom) and I would like to get one that doesn't have this problem. It's starting to bother me. Anyway, I will not use a ME7 or above device, I will not tolerate being stuck to safe strap. So is there a chance I would get a MDK device? Or are all of them being shipped with new software? If so, does anyone have any suggestions for a fix that doesn't involve vzw or a few hundred dollars?
Thanks.
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Mine came with me7
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One I got came with me7 so I just sent it back and sold mine and bought mdk version now I'm happy.
Thanks to both of you. That's what I feared.
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One I got came with me7 so I just sent it back and sold mine and bought mdk version now I'm happy.
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So did you sell the refurb? Or the old device? How much did you lose on the deal? (if you don't mind me asking.)
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Me7 as well got a mi7 previoisly
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Hey! Right now I have a Galaxy Note 2 and I was just curious if I should get an S4. I have a little over a year before I can upgrade again and I'm finding Galaxy S4s on Craigslist in my area around $250-$350, which isn't all that much more than a regular upgrade. I like the higher resolution display they have and the better camera, but I'm not sure if that would be the only thing I'd be getting out of it. Also, since there are developer edition S4s, I figured I could easily flash it to Kitkat, such as CM11, and expect no bugs or glitches. What's everyone's thought on going from a note 2 to an S4? Worth the money? Do you think it'd hold me off another year?
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Hey! Right now I have a Galaxy Note 2 and I was just curious if I should get an S4. I have a little over a year before I can upgrade again and I'm finding Galaxy S4s on Craigslist in my area around $250-$350, which isn't all that much more than a regular upgrade. I like the higher resolution display they have and the better camera, but I'm not sure if that would be the only thing I'd be getting out of it. Also, since there are developer edition S4s, I figured I could easily flash it to Kitkat, such as CM11, and expect no bugs or glitches. What's everyone's thought on going from a note 2 to an S4? Worth the money? Do you think it'd hold me off another year?
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Well if the things listed here justify spending the cash I'd say go for it!
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-S4,Samsung-GALAXY-Note-II/phones/7597,7254
I love mine. But definitely get a dev or mdk version. And I'd feel safer getting one off swappa myself.
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Well if the things listed here justify spending the cash I'd say go for it!
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-S4,Samsung-GALAXY-Note-II/phones/7597,7254
I love mine. But definitely get a dev or mdk version. And I'd feel safer getting one off swappa myself.
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That link helped a lot bro. Thanks! It does seem that the S4 has some nice hardware upgrades from my note 2. It has camera stabilization too! That may explain why my pictures get blurry quite often. You may see me in the GS4 forums soon!!!
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GagesiPad said:
That link helped a lot bro. Thanks! It does seem that the S4 has some nice hardware upgrades from my note 2. It has camera stabilization too! That may explain why my pictures get blurry quite often. You may see me in the GS4 forums soon!!!
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Happy I could help. I always use that site when comparing phones.
And I'll say the camera on the S4 is really awesome. The note 2 is still a beast of a phone though. Lot of development for it also. Good luck whichever way you go!
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if you want an unlocked bootloader then no you don't want one, other than that its an awesome device.
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if you want an unlocked bootloader then no you don't want one, other than that its an awesome device.
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Can you still flash ROMs with a locked bootloader? I cant stay on stock touchwiz... its bloated and horrific.
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GagesiPad said:
Hey! Right now I have a Galaxy Note 2 and I was just curious if I should get an S4. I have a little over a year before I can upgrade again and I'm finding Galaxy S4s on Craigslist in my area around $250-$350, which isn't all that much more than a regular upgrade. I like the higher resolution display they have and the better camera, but I'm not sure if that would be the only thing I'd be getting out of it. Also, since there are developer edition S4s, I figured I could easily flash it to Kitkat, such as CM11, and expect no bugs or glitches. What's everyone's thought on going from a note 2 to an S4? Worth the money? Do you think it'd hold me off another year?
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if you can't get a dev edition or a retail edition on mdk don't bother. on anything after mdk there is no custom recovery, only safestrap. and even on mdk there is no unlocked bootloader, just a loki exploit that allows us to flash twrp.
the phone is a great phone, but if you are looking to mod it, you have very few choices with the s4 unfortunately.
I want to sell my S4 but I'm afraid once I sell it there will be a bootloader exploit... Is this nuts, or is it just me??
(And possibly get the M8)
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I want to sell my S4 but I'm afraid once I sell it there will be a bootloader exploit... Is this nuts, or is it just me??
(And possibly get the M8)
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Just my opinion but... Your probably safe to move on lol there's some extremely talented people working on it , and I don't want to knock their progress, but its some serious security they're trying to break.
The reality is though that we just never know. Could find an exploit tomorrow.... Could never find it.
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Just my opinion but... Your probably safe to move on lol there's some extremely talented people working on it , and I don't want to knock their progress, but its some serious security they're trying to break.
The reality is though that we just never know. Could find an exploit tomorrow.... Could never find it.
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I'm not trying to say they're not working, I'm not saying they're bad. I'm just stating... that there hasn't been an unlock since MDK.
I know that we never know, it's just kinda disappointing...
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I'm not trying to say they're not working, I'm not saying they're bad. I'm just stating... that there hasn't been an unlock since MDK.
I know that we never know, it's just kinda disappointing...
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Hey I know... I was just saying is all. Doesn't look good and Verizon is very dissapointing.
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Hey I know... I was just saying is all. Doesn't look good and Verizon is very dissapointing.
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So your opinion, M8 or Stick W/ S4.
I'm a CM addict.
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So your opinion, M8 or Stick W/ S4.
I'm a CM addict.
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Well I'd either get an MDK S4 off Swappa or get the M8 if your CM addict lol
I had my locked down S4 for a few months, then I sold it on Swappa and got an MDK S4 so I could do just that.
I'm not a real TW fan myself.
I suppose it all depends on what phone you really want.
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Just be sure the M8 is able to have custom recoveries too.... I'm not an HTC man so I don't follow it much. You don't want another locked down phone if your goal is to have CM
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Well I'd either get an MDK S4 off Swappa or get the M8 if your CM addict lol
I had my locked down S4 for a few months, then I sold it on Swappa and got an MDK S4 so I could do just that.
I'm not a real TW fan myself.
I suppose it all depends on what phone you really want.
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Just be sure the M8 is able to have custom recoveries too.... I'm not an HTC man so I don't follow it much. You don't want another locked down phone if your goal is to have CM
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At this point i've just refused to use the damn thing... I'm using my razr m w/ 4.1.2. on it because it runs better...
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At this point i've just refused to use the damn thing... I'm using my razr m w/ 4.1.2. on it because it runs better...
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Good comparison between the S4 and M8
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-One-M8-vs-HTC-One-M7-vs-Galaxy-S4-specs-comparison_id54260
Between that and knowing what's possible with the M8 ( on Verizon ) and an MDK S4 you can probably make a good decision.
I know nothing about HTC phones really... But are they unlocked ( bootloaders ) or is it the same deal as the S4?
Verizon is the one pushing the locked down security. Probably worth finding out 1st.
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Good comparison between the S4 and M8
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-One-M8-vs-HTC-One-M7-vs-Galaxy-S4-specs-comparison_id54260
Between that and knowing what's possible with the M8 ( on Verizon ) and an MDK S4 you can probably make a good decision.
I know nothing about HTC phones really... But are they unlocked ( bootloaders ) or is it the same deal as the S4?
Verizon is the one pushing the locked down security. Probably worth finding out 1st.
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All that I know forsure, is that most HTC phones get unlocked and have great lives with CM.
HTC one, Droid DNA, all the other HTC's
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I want to sell my S4 but I'm afraid once I sell it there will be a bootloader exploit... Is this nuts, or is it just me??
(And possibly get the M8)
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I'd sell the S4 before the S5 comes out. There might be less interest in it after.
I sold my Mk2 S4 and bought an MDK one for ~$35 difference. The only thing that's missing with non-TW roms is the gesture stuff, but that's a small thing when you get GPE/CM/AOSP/whatever you want.
The M8 will probably be unlocked, we've had good success with HTC devices on Verizon. Although the 801 is a new beast to deal with. If you can deal with the razr I'd give it a couple weeks to see how the progress is on the m8
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The M8 will probably be unlocked, we've had good success with HTC devices on Verizon. Although the 801 is a new beast to deal with. If you can deal with the razr I'd give it a couple weeks to see how the progress is on the m8
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Yeah, probably going to do that.
Josh... You feel funny holding that Max up to your ear for a call?? LoL
I want that phone but I don't know if I can be trusted with something like that
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Josh... You feel funny holding that Max up to your ear for a call?? LoL
I want that phone but I don't know if I can be trusted with something like that
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So I went in to the VZ store yesterday and the rep was like, wait a few weeks.
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So I went in to the VZ store yesterday and the rep was like, wait a few weeks.
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Meaning... They had noone at all??
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Meaning... They had noone at all??
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Meaning, See if it gets unlockable... I'm not about to spend 300 bucks and wait 8 months for it to get unlocked. I hate sense, less than twiz, but still. I wouldn't want it on device for more than a few hours.
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Meaning, See if it gets unlockable... I'm not about to spend 300 bucks and wait 8 months for it to get unlocked. I hate sense, less than twiz, but still. I wouldn't want it on device for more than a few hours.
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Ohhhh gotcha Yea wasn't sure that's what you meant. Some of the reps aren't to bad and you can talk to like normal... Others are just robots. Well I did a little reading on it and it certainly seems more promising that the M8 will be unlocked. This S4 will probably be my last Sammy phone with Verizon anyways. Maybe HTC is the way to go. Just wish it has removable battery.
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Ohhhh gotcha Yea wasn't sure that's what you meant. Some of the reps aren't to bad and you can talk to like normal... Others are just robots. Well I did a little reading on it and it certainly seems more promising that the M8 will be unlocked. This S4 will probably be my last Sammy phone with Verizon anyways. Maybe HTC is the way to go. Just wish it has removable battery.
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My thoughts exactly. It's just an annoying thing. Vz is the only one to be so resistive.