[Q] Can you help me understanding how Android notification system works? - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, I just switched completely from iOS to Android after I while I used an iPhone and a Nexus 7 together. Now I replaced the iPhone with a Samsung Galaxy S4.
I'm pretty happy, but there are a couple of things I still completely grasp about how Android notifications work.
My first issue is related to *blocking mode* and Whatsapp. I have the same issue reported in this discussion.
It seems that the app can bypass Android notification system and relies on something else. Is that true? How can that happen?
I have another concern related to the use of vibration when sound is turned on. It seems that the system-wide settings refers only to phone calls, while for other notifications I have to rely on app-specific settings. Am I correct?
Taking for example facebook app, what would happen if I disable vibration and put the phone in silent mode? Will it vibrate?
Finally, I'd like to have a iOS-like notification list on the lock screen. So far I managed to get it for some applications (Messages, Whatsapp), but I'd really like to have some system-wide properties.
Generally speaking, can you please give me a link to Android documentation explaining what aspects of notifications it manages system-wide and what is responsibility of each application?
I'd really like to see as much as possible managed by the operating system, but from what I am experiencing it seems that it is exactly the other way round with a lot of settings left to the applications.

Blocking mode is a Samsung feature AFAIK. Maybe WhatsApp is using the media channel for notifications instead of the notifications channel? Not sure.
mariosangiorgio said:
Finally, I'd like to have a iOS-like notification list on the lock screen. So far I managed to get it for some applications (Messages, Whatsapp), but I'd really like to have some system-wide properties.
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Take a look at DashClock with one of the many extensions (e.g. AnyDash), NiLS Notifications Lock Screen, or any similar widget.
There's also Floating Notifications, which can show you (bubbles of) your notifications on your lockscreen.

Thanks for the links and for the hypothesis on Whatsapp notifications.
It seems that I have to choose either to have the pattern lock or to add multiple widgets. Am I right?
Is there any way to have both notifications and pattern lock?
I'm afraid pattern lock is again a Samsung specific feature so I'm a concerned about possible integration issues with other widgets.
What about the other question about system-wide vs per-app settings?

mariosangiorgio said:
Thanks for the links and for the hypothesis on Whatsapp notifications.
It seems that I have to choose either to have the pattern lock or to add multiple widgets. Am I right?
Is there any way to have both notifications and pattern lock?
I'm afraid pattern lock is again a Samsung specific feature so I'm a concerned about possible integration issues with other widgets.
What about the other question about system-wide vs per-app settings?
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Samsung disabled widgets with the secure lockscreen for some reason. There's an Xposed module to re-enable it, but you need the Xposed framework (and root).
I'm not sure about the vibration question.

My device is still not-rooted and I am not very keen on rooting.
I did some research and I found Popup Notifier (Sorry but I still can't post links to external websites) that seems what I need.
I'm going to try it and I'll let you know how it works.

mariosangiorgio said:
My device is still not-rooted and I am not very keen on rooting.
I did some research and I found Popup Notifier (Sorry but I still can't post links to external websites) that seems what I need.
I'm going to try it and I'll let you know how it works.
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Unfortunately it Popup Notifier is not what I was looking for. I'd like more to have an iOS-like list of notifications rather than popups.
It also felt a bit too hackish that I had to disable text to speech service and enable the app's accessibility service.
I have the feeling that they're misusing accessibility features as a workaround to access notification information.
I see that there are custom lockers. Is it possible to install them without rooting the device? If I install one of them would I be able to setup notifications as I like, add the pattern widget and leave the rest of the system as it is?

mariosangiorgio said:
Unfortunately it Popup Notifier is not what I was looking for. I'd like more to have an iOS-like list of notifications rather than popups.
It also felt a bit too hackish that I had to disable text to speech service and enable the app's accessibility service.
I have the feeling that they're misusing accessibility features as a workaround to access notification information.
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All applications need Accessibility to get the notifications' content, prior to Android 4.3, AFAIK. Or root.
mariosangiorgio said:
I see that there are custom lockers. Is it possible to install them without rooting the device? If I install one of them would I be able to setup notifications as I like, add the pattern widget and leave the rest of the system as it is?
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You can install custom lockscreens without root, but you'll also need Accessibility.

GermainZ said:
All applications need Accessibility to get the notifications' content, prior to Android 4.3, AFAIK. Or root.
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Did 4.3 introduce new APIs to let applications access notifications?
Is there any new app that already uses them? I'd like to try them on my Nexus 7 and then use one also on my S4 once Samsung releases the updated version of the system.
GermainZ said:
You can install custom lockscreens without root, but you'll also need Accessibility.
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Got it. Thanks again for your kind replies!

mariosangiorgio said:
Did 4.3 introduce new APIs to let applications access notifications?
Is there any new app that already uses them? I'd like to try them on my Nexus 7 and then use one also on my S4 once Samsung releases the updated version of the system.
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Applications can now use notification listeners, which allow them to detect new notifications (and when they're cleared) from an app. I think Floating Notifications uses it if you're on 4.3, but it's not exactly what you want.

Yes,unfortunately it's not what I'm looking for. I'll keep checking. I hope new app relying on the new features will be published soon
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I came across a few DashClock extensions which do that, although for specific apps. You might want to try a few and see if this is what you want.
Hangouts DashClock Extension
WhatsApp, Facebook, Viber and LINE (4 different extensions) by Tiger-Workshop
You'll need DashClock for these, of course.
Other than that, there's DynamicNotifications you might be interested in. Not quite what you're looking for, but it might do the trick for now.

DynamicNotifications seems very cool. I'll give it a try
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Just in case you don't read the portal, this DashClock extension does what you want by using the notification listener features, instead of Accessibility services.

Thanks for sharing the link! I'll give it a try. It is very promising
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I tried to use it on my S4 but I cannot set the widget.
This time I can't even disable the lock as I reported in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2472070
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[MOD][XPOSED][4.1+] All Notifications Expanded

I made a simple Xposed module which causes all notifications to be initially shown in their expanded state inside the notification drawer. (The stock behaviour is that only the first notification is expanded.) Notifications may still be contracted manually and will stay that way.
There is no settings activity. This module just does one thing for now.
Requires Jelly Bean or above with the Xposed framework installed.
Props to @rovo89 for the awesome Xposed framework!
You can grab it from its Xposed Module Repository page.
Said it on my thread and I'll say it again, you are my hero!
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Great job, this is a thing I wanted for a long time, and is one of the last 3 things I want to see implemented with xposed (the others can be done without, but AFAIK xposed modules don't use as much ram as standalone apps)
this is something that has bugged me since 4.1. my first notification will be something like email or app updates and ill get a text message and cant just hit reply or make as read without first expanding the notification. one of my top annoyances fixed! thanks, you made my day. all these xposed modules are solving all my problems with android, soon i wont have anything to complain about... im giving out thanks buttons like candy.
The Jack of Clubs said:
this is something that has bugged me since 4.1. my first notification will be something like email or app updates and ill get a text message and cant just hit reply or make as read without first expanding the notification. one of my top annoyances fixed! thanks, you made my day. all these xposed modules are solving all my problems with android, soon i wont have anything to complain about... im giving out thanks buttons like candy.
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Mine would collapse just before clicking whichever button and I would end up clicking the next notification down. I'd have to expand it twice - the second time, it wouldn't collapse.
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Great job! I like this module!
I have 2 remarks :
1. Could you let the "permanent" notification behaves like by default? Or offer the option in a settings page?
2. Ideally, there would be a settings page in which we could choose the behavior for each app/package independently...
Thanks
Looki75 said:
Great job! I like this module!
I have 2 remarks :
1. Could you let the "permanent" notification behaves like by default? Or offer the option in a settings page?
2. Ideally, there would be a settings page in which we could choose the behavior for each app/package independently...
Thanks
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+1 for second suggestion, that would make my phone perfect! As I only wan few apps to expand notification on permanent basis
Worked with cm10.2 S2..thanks
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Looki75 said:
Great job! I like this module!
I have 2 remarks :
1. Could you let the "permanent" notification behaves like by default? Or offer the option in a settings page?
2. Ideally, there would be a settings page in which we could choose the behavior for each app/package independently...
Thanks
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Do permanent notifications have special behaviour in regards to being expanded or not? Let me know exactly what you mean and I can investigate!
For your second suggestion, I have already planned to do this, but unfortunately I think it will have to wait at least until the new year. I have already been naughty working on these modules when I have a million other things to do!
UgglyNoodle said:
Do permanent notifications have special behaviour in regards to being expanded or not? Let me know exactly what you mean and I can investigate!
For your second suggestion, I have already planned to do this, but unfortunately I think it will have to wait at least until the new year. I have already been naughty working on these modules when I have a million other things to do!
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Thanks for the quick reply!
1/ Permanent notifications: they behave differently than other notifications, yes.
Default android behavior (at least here on my JB4.1.2 TouchWiz ROM): you cannot expand them with fingers
With your module: they stay expanded, but then you cannot wrap them with fingers
It's like there is no other interaction possible other than clicking on them. You cannot swipe them away, and you cannot expand/wrap.
So the issue with the module is that the notification stays there wide expanded when sometimes you don't need it, and there is nothing to do about it: it will stay expanded.
Solutions?
A. Ideally... if I can dream... would be that your module allow expand/wrap interaction with these permanent notifications...
Is that possible at all???
B. Backup solution would be to allow a setting to choose to expand or not these permanent notifications
C. A 3rd way to go would be to just let permanent notifications with their default system behavior. After all, we mainly need your module for the temporary notifications: emails, test msg, etc...
Solution C is probably the easiest to code? And would be enough for users (at least for me).
2/ No hurry for the second suggestion. Good to know you plan having this. Will be patient!
If it were put to a vote, I'd vote for C - ignore persistent notifications. B as a second choice. But either way, they need to be manually expandable. I just tried and, he's right, they are not expandable.
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Looki75 said:
1/ Permanent notifications: they behave differently than other notifications, yes.
Default android behavior (at least here on my JB4.1.2 TouchWiz ROM): you cannot expand them with fingers
With your module: they stay expanded, but then you cannot wrap them with fingers
It's like there is no other interaction possible other than clicking on them. You cannot swipe them away, and you cannot expand/wrap.
So the issue with the module is that the notification stays there wide expanded when sometimes you don't need it, and there is nothing to do about it: it will stay expanded.
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I guess perhaps I don't understand what is meant by "permanent notifications". I thought you meant any notification which cannot be swiped away, but I just tried with Google Music and Power Toggles, and both notifications can be contracted and expanded with my module running.
So could you provide some examples of permanent notifications which you cannot contract? Thanks!
@egingell, are you also on a TouchWiz ROM? If TouchWiz notifications have different behaviour, then I'll have to figure out how to support it - right now I'm just working off AOSP source code.
UgglyNoodle said:
I guess perhaps I don't understand what is meant by "permanent notifications". I thought you meant any notification which cannot be swiped away, but I just tried with Google Music and Power Toggles, and both notifications can be contracted and expanded with my module running.
So could you provide some examples of permanent notifications which you cannot contract? Thanks!
@egingell, are you also on a TouchWiz ROM? If TouchWiz notifications have different behaviour, then I'll have to figure out how to support it - right now I'm just working off AOSP source code.
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Strange... You understood perfectly what I'm talking about: those persistent notifications that you cannot swipe away...
Well I refer to "App Dialer".
It places a persistent notification. I have 2 other persistent notifications. When the 3 are there, the 2-lines App Dialer one wraps up. Then impossible to unfold with 2 fingers.
With your module, it stays open. Impossible to wrap up...
Can you make a try with App Dialer?
Thanks
UgglyNoodle said:
@egingell, are you also on a TouchWiz ROM? If TouchWiz notifications have different behaviour, then I'll have to figure out how to support it - right now I'm just working off AOSP source code.
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TouchWiz JB 4.1.2.
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I'm going to shed some light on the subject of "permanent" or "ongoing" notifications.
On my S4, with stock TouchWiz Android 4.3, ongoing notifications behave just like other notifications, they are just grouped separately. If there is an ongoing notification that can be expanded, it is expanded by default when the notification shade is opened and all other notifications are collapsed. If there isn't an ongoing notification that can be expanded, the first regular notification is expanded by default.
On my Note 10.1 with stock TouchWiz Android 4.1.2, however, if there is an ongoing notification that can be expanded it will be expanded by default and cannot be collapsed. All other behavior is the same.
On my Galaxy Nexus, which obviously ran AOSP based ROMs, I never remember having an ongoing notification I couldn't expand.
I do not have any mods or exposed modules effecting the behavior of the notifications on either device.
I'm assuming egingell was referring to the behavior on the devices in his signature, so it looks like between 4.2 and 4.3 Samsung changed the behavior of the ongoing notification expansion, and I would assume this only effects TouchWiz ROMs because I don't know of others that group ongoing and regular notifications separately.
EDIT: Make that somewhere between 4.1.2 and 4.3 (See eginell's post above)
I don't know if it's noteworthy, but if there are 4+ notifications (re both 4.1.2 and 4.2.2), persistent and temporary, none are expanded automatically.
Also, I have never seen my ADB WiFi persistent notification auto-expanded. I've always had to expand it myself. Even when one of the other persistent notifications didn't load and there are no temporaries.
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Thanks everyone for the information! I will definitely look into this, but I'll just warn you that I don't have any experience with supporting non-AOSP platforms, and won't have any way of testing, so it might take me some time! As with per-app settings, I probably will not have time to work on it before the end of the year (I'm quite busy right now and leaving for a long vacation in a week).
can you consider in adding an option not to expand the first notification (usually the ongoing weather) otherwise :good: job buddy!
I was mistaken when I said JB 4.1.2 (I was thinking of a different mod).
At any rate, on 4.1.2, ADB WiFi's persistent notification is auto expanded with this mod and I can expand/collapse it manually.
And on 4.2.2 with this mod enabled, ADB Wifi's notification is not auto expanded and I cannot manually expand/collapse it.
Both TouchWiz.
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Just thought I'd post my findings.
Running 4.2.2 stock based rom on my Xperia Z, all seems good.
All that can be expanded are, and persistent (in my case I used Walkman whilst playing) started open, and I was able to close then up if I wanted.
Walkman is definitely persistent, as I can't swipe it away, unless you're on about a different type.
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[MOD][XPOSED] TickerToast BETA! Turns toasts into notifications in the status bar.

I am done with this. Module discontinued. I'm done fighting with that icon.
This was initially a request from http://www.reddit.com/user/Angelic276 on reddit. I decided it would be neat so put some time into it. Please note this is still quite buggy and the beta isn't up there just cause it sounds cool. Honestly, this was done as an experiment, and I don't think it will ever be perfect.
Doesn't work:
-Icon
-Sometimes toasts that are in a long "line up" will be delayed, this usually occurs after three or more toasts in succession.
-Code sucks
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All the goodies can be found on the repo (source, download, etc.): http://repo.xposed.info/module/ryebread761.tickertoast
Exactly what I was looking for. Great job.
This actually sounds like a good mod. I'd like to see it grow :good:
Seems to work pretty well. I dont really mind toasts, personally, I'd rather somehow disable tickers in various apps (Is this possible?)
Anyway... one app that it didnt work with was "Rescan SD Card". It simply crashes the app, which is an app that only has two toast msgs as 'interface'.
Just so you could fix the bug easier... unless I'm alone with this.
I'm not quite sure I understand why toast notifications became popular when notifications are the standard. I hate feeling like I have to read it fast or I'm going to miss something important. If you want to show a brief message that removes automatically, just cancel the notification bar one.
There always has to be something in an OS that causes anxiety, I swear its like a OS rule that all systems have.
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Kocayine said:
I'd rather somehow disable tickers in various apps (Is this possible?)
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What do you mean by this?
AaronCompNetSys said:
What do you mean by this?
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Like, for example, if someone writes me on Skype, it will show a ticker of the name and msg of the sender. I'd rather just it shows the skype "new message" notification icon. Some apps have a "privacy" option - alot dont. Not that I've any idea whether or not this is something that could be done with xposed, it was just a thought... a bit offtopic too, I'm afraid
Kocayine said:
Like, for example, if someone writes me on Skype, it will show a ticker of the name and msg of the sender. I'd rather just it shows the skype "new message" notification icon. Some apps have a "privacy" option - alot dont. Not that I've any idea whether or not this is something that could be done with xposed, it was just a thought... a bit offtopic too, I'm afraid
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Ah, that does sound extremely annoying and breaks with normal Android behavior. May I could recommend a replacement via Tasker where it detects Skype message and creates a fake one of its own.
AaronCompNetSys said:
Ah, that does sound extremely annoying and breaks with normal Android behavior. May I could recommend a replacement via Tasker where it detects Skype message and creates a fake one of its own.
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Hard to expect Microsoft to do anything right. Their whole app is a mess but sadly they make sure to keep any alternative clients from existing or working properly.
The tasker alternative seems like a good idea! Can you point me in a direction on a guide how to do this? (I dont wanna keep the offtopic going in poor Ryebread's thread )
Kocayine said:
Hard to expect Microsoft to do anything right. Their whole app is a mess but sadly they make sure to keep any alternative clients from existing or working properly.
The tasker alternative seems like a good idea! Can you point me in a direction on a guide how to do this? (I dont wanna keep the offtopic going in poor Ryebread's thread )
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I figured it would be a simple search, but this is the best I could find to get you started: http://androidforums.com/tasker/648438-tasker-can-not-detect-gmail-notifications-s3.html
Idea would be to detect notification, then see if detection still works after blocking the notification using Gravity Box's notification block feature. I know blocked notifications still show up in the OS notification queue when blocked on my Kit Kat ROM. Then create a notification from tasker that has Skype's icon and only launches the Skype app.
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AaronCompNetSys said:
I'm not quite sure I understand why toast notifications became popular when notifications are the standard. I hate feeling like I have to read it fast or I'm going to miss something important. If you want to show a brief message that removes automatically, just cancel the notification bar one.
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What the hell!?! I just saw my first clickable toast from the Gmail app... "Show new email from XDA..." which showed up when a thread subscribe email arrived while I was reading a message.
Really google, what is wrong with you. Now toasts are not toasts, stay on screen, and are clickable? Just show a freaking notification or something native to the app. I stared at it for a few seconds waiting to know what the crap was going on.
OP: sorry for pooping on your thread. Best of luck to you, nuke all the toasts.
On my S4, the notification showed for about as long as a toast, and then it disappeared on its own.
Ya, that's supposed to happen. Do you like that or should I add an option to have the notification stay?
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Kocayine said:
Seems to work pretty well. I dont really mind toasts, personally, I'd rather somehow disable tickers in various apps (Is this possible?)
Anyway... one app that it didnt work with was "Rescan SD Card". It simply crashes the app, which is an app that only has two toast msgs as 'interface'.
Just so you could fix the bug easier... unless I'm alone with this.
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I'll try to take a look later. Interesting though.
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ryebread761 said:
Ya, that's supposed to happen. Do you like that or should I add an option to have the notification stay?
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The problem with toasts is that the user can miss them, so I assumed your app would make the toasts appear as notifications and linger until the user dismisses them. I guess the idea behind your app is, basically, to put the toast at the top of the phone so that the user doesn't obscure it with his own fingers while doing other stuff. But since we now have Burnt Toast and Buttered Toast, toasts have become more visible, so I actually find a brief display in the status bar easier to miss than a Burnt and Buttered toast.
In that case, yes, I would like the option to have toasts get converted to notifications so that they remain until manually dismissed. That way, you never have to worry about missing a toast if you look away from your phone. As a further refinement, the user could choose on a per app basis whether that app's toasts will be 1) left as system default-style toasts, 2) appear briefly in the status bar, or 3) get converted to a notification that the user has to manually clear.
Love it, i really hate toasts because they block my view and are annoying.
Would be great if you get the icons to work!
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Kocayine said:
Like, for example, if someone writes me on Skype, it will show a ticker of the name and msg of the sender. I'd rather just it shows the skype "new message" notification icon. Some apps have a "privacy" option - alot dont. Not that I've any idea whether or not this is something that could be done with xposed, it was just a thought... a bit offtopic too, I'm afraid
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There is 2 apps in xposed to control toast. Untoaster stops toasts and enhanced toast which might be exactly what you are looking for blocks certain unwanted toasts.
Nice module. This is exactly what I was looking for. It would be perfect if you could get the icons to work. It would also be nice for some users to have the option to turn toasts into notifications. Thanx for sharing this.
This is just perfect!! Now to get the volume spiders in the status bar
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I found out that the kindle app doesn't work if this is active
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It's a pity that module is discontinued. Hope someone can improve the code. It shouldn't die that way.
schloss said:
It's a pity that module is discontinued. Hope someone can improve the code. It shouldn't die that way.
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I didn't want it to die this way either. There became a point though where the code was so bad, that doing anything with this felt like a fight. This is something I did in my free time for fun. I usually enjoy coding, and making modules, but this one became more and more of a chore. As such, I decided to end development and move on.

Best Lockscreen App? (No Root :( )

Hey there!
So, I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini, running Kitkat (4.4.2).
I'm looking for the best lockscreen app there is to find, but I wasn't quite able to find it yet...
I want a lockscreen app under these conditions:
- Free
- Which allows me to INTERACT with notifications (quick reply messaging apps like Telegram, not only SMS!) right on the lockscreen, without having to unlock it
- Which has a music controller (I use Spotify, and so far I haven't found one lockscreen app which DOESN'T support it. It's important to me, though, so I'll just list this here too...)
- (Optional) Which allows me to use a Pattern lock, or at least a PIN/password one
- (Optional) Which allows me to, even in the lockscreen, dropdown my notifications/status bar. Almost none of the apps I tried let me do this (only Echo and ZUI, I guess, since Android KitKat itself doesn't allow me to drop down the bar when there's a lock set)
- (Optional) Which has any kind of quick app launcher
Can you guys PLEASE help me?
I think there is no application that meets your requirements. However, I share with you some apps can you find http://apkearn.com/search?search_term=Lockscreen
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I think there is no application that meets your requirements. However, I share with you some apps can you find
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Ok, Thank you very much, gonna check it out. But do you know any app which comes close to these requirements?

Chinese ROM: no notification icons on status bar , no Google match

Hi all, I've recently bought a Reno 10x in China and I've several issues with that color OS : ROM PCCM00_11_A 18_96c98aa7
1) no notification icons on the status bar ; I've tried everything , but it seems that in my ROM there isn't the sub menu "notification prompt mode"
also I've no numbers notification on the dot on the app icon.
Basically it impossible for me to see if I've have new message on WhatsApp for example, of course I've notification on the screen look menu , but since I use every day the fingerprint sensor I never see the screen look.
2) isn't possible to configure Google assistant and more over the phone is blocking the automatic voice match ( I've a ROM with BREENO as assistant) :-0
3) Whit Google maps is impossible tho share my location with my friends (color is apparently is blocking )
4) problems with exchange:
I had no app for mail by default so Installed Gmail : ok it's work , but calendar and tasks from exchange are not showing!! So it's impossible for me to work!
No way , it's a mess ....
Could someone help me ? Do I need to install a "real" global ROOM?
How can I do?
Many thanks !
I've got the same problem with the notifications. Someone a solution?
The background notification problem can easily be fixed.
SjDU said:
The background notification problem can easily be fixed.
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Doesn't work always..
Fir3blade said:
Doesn't work always..
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Working for me. Used adb with some help. Now it's working good. Am happy with it.
SjDU said:
Working for me. Used adb with some help. Now it's working good. Am happy with it.
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I know how to use adb, deinstalled athena successfully, but notifications still doesn't show up on statusbar..
Fir3blade said:
I know how to use adb, deinstalled athena successfully, but notifications still doesn't show up on statusbar..
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Global Rom/ India Rom also has athena apk and no problem with that apk and notifications so i think problem is with something else in china Rom.
Can we flash global/indian rom?
Fir3blade said:
I know how to use adb, deinstalled athena successfully, but notifications still doesn't show up on statusbar..
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For the application, you must also give all permissions, autorun and notification settings. It starts to work not immediately, it was about 5-10 minutes for me, but after all the notifications come right away.
Did all of this, but still no icons on statusbar.
Oppo Reno status bar fix
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The background notification problem can easily be fixed.
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Hi, can you tell me more how to do the tweak on Oppo Reno so to get icon notifications on status bar? Like explain every step as I am quite "green" with that stuff... Thanks
At this point there is no way to get notifications on the status bar. I have the same problem and am trying to return the phone because I already wasted too much time trying to fix this along with all the other problems:
tl;dr; DO NOT buy the Chinese rom version!
- Notifications are all disabled by default. You have to enable them individually for every single app, and most apps have multiple notification types that each need to be separately enabled.
- The process for enabling notification for an app includes changing notification settings, power settings, startup settings, and locking the app in recents, for every single app.
- Only 5 apps can be enabled to receive notifications (startup options).
- Can't change the default SMS app, it will revert back when you receive a message.
- Can't change the default launcher without removing the coloros launcher through adb.
- Swipe gesture will not work if you do remove the default launcher.
- Nova launcher badge permission gets reset so you no longer see notifications.
- There is no way to flash the global rom.
How do people actually use this phone?
Hi, I see... For me besides the lack of icons on status bar the phone seems good as I don't plan to change launcher or rom. ( I know bit boring, but I've faced the same issue with Vivo)
But guys have have you heard of Xiaomi Mi 9 global version has the same problem with status bar icons and they came up with an app that's available on Play Store: Notch Test. And it worked well. I tested it myself. Can we do it with Oppo??? I mean can someone do such app for Oppo Reno?
mobiusred said:
At this point there is no way to get notifications on the status bar. I have the same problem and am trying to return the phone because I already wasted too much time trying to fix this along with all the other problems:
tl;dr; DO NOT buy the Chinese rom version!
- Notifications are all disabled by default. You have to enable them individually for every single app, and most apps have multiple notification types that each need to be separately enabled.
- The process for enabling notification for an app includes changing notification settings, power settings, startup settings, and locking the app in recents, for every single app.
- Only 5 apps can be enabled to receive notifications (startup options).
- Can't change the default SMS app, it will revert back when you receive a message.
- Can't change the default launcher without removing the coloros launcher through adb.
- Swipe gesture will not work if you do remove the default launcher.
- Nova launcher badge permission gets reset so you no longer see notifications.
- There is no way to flash the global rom.
How do people actually use this phone?
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This is common issue for phone selling in China.
If want China brand phone, must get global edition instead of China edition. This apply to Oppo, Vivo and Xiaomi. I not sure on Huawei, maybe also same.
Yes avoid oppo Chinese version
Awful app restriction
Does the global version work as normal with notifications?
Thinking about buying 5g version.
hummingbird27 said:
Hi, can you tell me more how to do the tweak on Oppo Reno so to get icon notifications on status bar? Like explain every step as I am quite "green" with that stuff... Thanks
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Quite Simple. Install Adb... Then write
Adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.coloros.athena
And boom all the notifications will start working. App won't be killed in the background.
SjDU said:
Quite Simple. Install Adb... Then write
Adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.coloros.athena
And boom all the notifications will start working. App won't be killed in the background.
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Can't believe that, as it didn't work on my side, and International version also has com.coloros.athena...
Anybody know how to get autofill from Google? I have all files but there is no autofill in settings
Where can I get google play apk for my chinese version?

A "few" questions to the s10 Lite owners.

Hello!
I’m considering buying this phone and I’m heavily into customization, I have a few questions about what you can do to S10 Lite to personalize the experience and how far it’ll let me change things before I have to resort to root or custom ROMs that are risky and missing for now.
First, about the themes, I found two good customization apps for Samsung devices, Good Locks and #hex Installer, can you use together?
What’s the extent of their customization, using both or the best of them if you can only have one working, can you:
1. Have a custom accent color system wide? So the same color for toggles, volume slider, highlights, colored text, notifications, quick settings etc/ like on stock android?
2. Can you change quick settings buttons background shape?
3. Are you able to switch recents view to a vertical stack of cards with the clear button bottom center?
4. Can you change icons for individual apps with stock launcher?
5. Change the navigation bar height, button size and spacing between them?
6. I like two fonts, Ubuntu and Google Product Sans, is any of them available?
7. Where can I check Good Locks availability in my region? Also, can it become unavailable with updates?
8. Do 3rd party customization apps from play store work? Kwgt, Custom Volume Sliders, Custom Navigation Bar etc.?
Next, I have a few questions regarding general usability:
9. Can you get rid of google assistant/bixby? They can be installed, I just don’t want to ever see them or have them running when not launched.
10. Does the Always on Display work well, is it actually always on?
11. Can you have the AoD show 3rd party app icons with a notification counter?
12. Does it have any problems with 3rd party launchers, Nova specifically?
13. Have you tried the Non-root version of YouTube Vanced? Does it work without issues? Can you install it with MicroG and log in?
I’ve also heard that Samsung’s OneUI likes to kill apps and prevent them from running in the background.
14. Did you have any issues with widgets getting stuck, becoming unresponsive, not updating and not working properly in general because they get killed by the system, did you have any issues like this?
15. Did you have any problems with 3rd party app notifications? Are you getting notifications from 3rd party messaging, email and other apps? Do they still come in when the screen is locked and the phone is in deep sleep?
I’m sorry in advance, I know it’s a lot but I’m very used to having the phone set up my way and I don’t want to spend this kind of money only to have to immediately root it or put up with a phone that doesn’t work properly for me.
Lol.. This is huge. I'll reply to some.
7 Good lock is working fine. In my country is not available but no problem. You can download the apk, everything works. If you know what good lock can do, then most of your questions (1,2) are replied as you can change notifications colors etc, at least what good lock is letting you change. Also 3 yes, with good lock.
5 by changing dpi through developer setting you can shrink everything so shrink navigation bar. Other navigation bar apps also works.
8 kwgt etc working fine.
9 yes. Froze them and anythings else you want by package disabler pro app.
10 works fine. You select if you want it or not.
12 nova works fine. I actually can't answer about samsung launcher as i always use nova. If you use it, then most of your questions also being answered as you know what nova can do.
13 yes to all, i use it always. (I use the hacked completely black amoled version, not the gray one, last version).
14 I have a problem actually with 1 widget, eWeather. Is somehow change size some times, and when go to its nova page, it changes ok again.. But i haven't problems with any other.
15 I don't have any problem with notifications but phone is a bit strange. It has 2 deep sleep apps somehow and need to untick the apps you want to have notifications to both of them. It reminds me xiaomi
It is good as due to this probably it has amazing battery. But it is a bit aggressive i think. Some times i lost some notifications but it was probably my fault, I'm not sure. Anyway i don't think there is a problem there. But better have more answers to this.
My opinion is that the phone is fantastic especially in battery, but its all about what everyone needs more.
Perhaps my video there, the comment, some hacks, the description and xda link there may help you, read it. I updating everything useful i find by writing new comments there, so anyone interested check it by time to time. Most things i post there are working to most samsung phones.
https://youtu.be/VGiItteDcfw
Again, I can answer a few. Mine is completely stock (not rooted). I may have needed to change settings when I bought the phone, but I don't recall which ones.
9: I don't know about getting rid of the assistants, but I've never even noticed that they're present, so they're unobtrusive.
10: Yes, Always On Display does what you expect. I have mine set to switch off overnight, but that's entirely optional.
11: Yes, I get notification counters on things like Aquamail.
12: I've been using Nova since the day I bought it. No problems.
14/15: For context, I get annoyed by these kinds of issues, and I won't buy another Huawei phone for exactly these reasons. On the S10 Lite, as currently configured, I get all notifications and widgets update as expected (agenda, Google Keep etc.), so I'm happy enough. I had to turn off 'Adaptive Power Saving', 'Adaptive Battery' and 'Put unused apps to sleep' to achieve that, though, and I've added a number of apps to 'Apps that won't be put to sleep'.
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Thank you very much guys! Your replies clarified a lot!
Did you/could you perhaps check if Good Locks and #hex Installer can be used together or if you have to pick one to customize the system?
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11: Yes, I get notification counters on things like Aquamail.
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I'm not sure if I worded it correctly in the OP so I fixed it now, but could you please clarify if this refers to the Always on Display?
Maranex said:
I'm not sure if I worded it correctly in the OP so I fixed it now, but could you please clarify if this refers to the Always on Display?
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Ah, sorry, misunderstood. I get 3rd party notification icons on the AOD but I've not seen a counter, I'm afraid.
Maranex said:
Thank you very much guys! Your replies clarified a lot!
Did you/could you perhaps check if Good Locks and #hex Installer can be used together or if you have to pick one to customize the system?
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Am using Finelock & #hex installer. There is no problem whatever.
sosimple said:
13 yes to all, i use it always. (I use the hacked completely black amoled version, not the gray one, last version).
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Hello, you could tell me where you found this version ? Or better, if you had a direct link please
Thank you
zenat said:
Hello, you could tell me where you found this version ? Or better, if you had a direct link please
Thank you
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https://mega4up.com/ih6eow8etf3e
https://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?f=429&t=3820892&hilit=YouTube
https://up-load.io/download.htmla
One of those should work i believe.
sosimple said:
https://mega4up.com/ih6eow8etf3e
https://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?f=429&t=3820892&hilit=YouTube
https://up-load.io/download.htmla
One of those should work i believe.
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Hello, I finally received my s10, so I tested the version you gave me, but, I must have missed something, it comes out in gray not in black
https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=20/40/16ns.jpg
zenat said:
Hello, I finally received my s10, so I tested the version you gave me, but, I must have missed something, it comes out in gray not in black
https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=20/40/16ns.jpg
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I don't understand why.. One file name has the word "black" so i dont think i mistaken the files..
Try setting, go to general, display, and then choose the black theme therel settings - vanced setting - display settings (or something like this, i translate from my language), and there is also a black theme setting there. Although i does think this is the problem..
Try also the new version here :
(The specific link it's not pirate or something, it is only for vanced hack)
https://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?f=429&t=3888296&hilit=Vanced
You must install no root, black arm64 version. I think you need sai application from playstore to install the file you will download.
sosimple said:
I don't understand why.. One file name has the word "black" so i dont think i mistaken the files..
Try setting, go to general, display, and then choose the black theme therel settings - vanced setting - display settings (or something like this, i translate from my language), and there is also a black theme setting there. Although i does think this is the problem..
Try also the new version here :
(The specific link it's not pirate or something, it is only for vanced hack)
https://forum.mobilism.org/viewtopic.php?f=429&t=3888296&hilit=Vanced
You must install no root, black arm64 version. I think you need sai application from playstore to install the file you will download.
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thank you it works perfectly with this version :good:
Hi.
I rooted my S10 lite and everything working fine but in settings - phone info I have wrong number model sm-a300f. How can I fix it? Could anyones send me build.prop, please?
Thank you.

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