USB 3.0 Discussion - Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General

What do you think about the micro usb 3.0 feature? Any real world uses for it? I hardly ever connect my phone to the computer.
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Diceroll said:
What do you think about the micro usb 3.0 feature? Any real world uses for it? I hardly ever connect my phone to the computer.
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Definitely, especially when it comes to pulling TWRP backups and pushing ROM's to my phone.

Yeah, faster charging times is good ish yo.

geoff5093 said:
Definitely, especially when it comes to pulling TWRP backups and pushing ROM's to my phone.
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What about Odin? Less chances of unsuccessful flashes possibly...
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For now it's leading edge, heck I don't even have PCs with it yet but going forward it is the new standard. Like the 5g wifi speed 2x faster than normal wifi, will McDonald's have it doubtful but I have it at home! So I welcome faster usb speed, 10x I think.
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I have a USB 3.0 port on my laptop that I bought 2 years ago. This will be the first USB 3.0 device I can actually use all the extra speed with. Ya it's usefull.
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sleepy3103 said:
I have a USB 3.0 port on my laptop that I bought 2 years ago. This will be the first USB 3.0 device I can actually use all the extra speed with. Ya it's usefull.
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Yeah my laptop sucks. But I'm gonna check into installing it 3.0 on my Desktop.
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Can't believe the note 10.1 is still standard micro USB 2.0 not 3 makes me wonder why
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With 4k video compatibility, usb 3.0 will be a heck of a lot faster for transferring your videos, as 4k will take up quite some space.
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papaavi said:
With 4k video compatibility, usb 3.0 will be a heck of a lot faster for transferring your videos, as 4k will take up quite some space.
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I didnt even think of that
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Diceroll said:
I didnt even think of that
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That's why we have these forums I suppose

I am still hoping that this is a sign that Samsung is about to release the micro sd cards that were rumored earlier this year with reads around 150MB/S. This would make sense because 3.0 can handle around 300MB/s. Just a hope though. If they were not releasing it, it would not make too much sense to add 3.0 to a device with 2.0 speeds in its memory or the current sd.

I am using mine with an extreme 32 gb sandisk. I copied 10 gigs of movies in about 2.5 min. I didn't have a stop watch but I was damn impressed. I did a full twrp 4.6 gb backup in about 400 sec @ 30mb a sec... the card is supposed to be 80mb a sec so it might be internal bottleneck we are not rightly seeing. All in all I am loving this phone...

I'll be especially interested in seeing a USB 3.0 OTG adapter... But then I guess I'd had to buy a USB 3.0 HDD...

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I have a USB 3.0 port on my laptop that I bought 2 years ago. This will be the first USB 3.0 device I can actually use all the extra speed with. Ya it's usefull.
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I have a small external drive that's powered off a USB 3.0 drive on my laptop. It's amazingly fast. Data copies at 100mb/s.

Has anybody tried charging it via a USB 3.0 capable laptop? How do charging times vary vs. the std wall charger it comes with?
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I have a similar question regarding to charging through USB 3.0 cable. For most of USB port on my computer/laptop are still 2.0. I wondered if I charge note 3 through a usb 3.0 cable to usb 2.0 port. Will I still be benefited in terms of charging speed? Trying to decide whether I should buy few extra USB 3.0 cable.
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inco9nito99 said:
Has anybody tried charging it via a USB 3.0 capable laptop? How do charging times vary vs. the std wall charger it comes with?
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martinliu said:
I have a similar question regarding to charging through USB 3.0 cable. For most of USB port on my computer/laptop are still 2.0. I wondered if I charge note 3 through a usb 3.0 cable to usb 2.0 port. Will I still be benefited in terms of charging speed? Trying to decide whether I should buy few extra USB 3.0 cable.
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I am sorry, I missed the point of both of your questions @martinliu & @inco9nito99 . Updated answers below:
@martinliu - No, charging through a 3.0 cable on a 2.0 port will not increase charging speed...and you wouldn't be able to plug a 3.0 cable into a 2.0 port in the first place since they have different ends due to there being an additional bus (8 wires instead of 4), so it's a moot point.
@inco9nito99 - The note 3 comes with a 2 amp wall charger and a usb 3.0 cable out of the box. Typical wall outlets allow WAY more output than 2 amps so you should be able to charge via the wall outlet at a max speed of the charger (plug part) which is, by default on the stock Note 3 plug, 2 amp (or 2,000 mA).
USB 2.0 could output up to 500 mA where as USB 3.0 can output 900 mA (source: http://www.diffen.com/difference/USB_2.0_vs_USB_3.0). This means that the wall outlet can charge more than 2x faster than the computers 3.0 port and 4x faster than the computers 2.0 port.
2000 mA wall vs. 900 mA 3.0 port vs. 500 mA 2.0 port
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Lucky me. I just bought a customize hp laptop about couple weeks ago, and all 4 usb ports are 3.0
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[/QUOTE]@martinliu - No, charging through a 3.0 cable on a 2.0 port will not increase charging speed...and you wouldn't be able to plug a 3.0 cable into a 2.0 port in the first place since they have different ends due to there being an additional bus (8 wires instead of 4), so it's a moot point.
@inco9nito99 - The note 3 comes with a 2 amp wall charger and a usb 3.0 cable out of the box. Typical wall outlets allow WAY more output than 2 amps so you should be able to charge via the wall outlet at a max speed of the charger (plug part) which is, by default on the stock Note 3 plug, 2 amp (or 2,000 mA).
USB 2.0 could output up to 500 mA where as USB 3.0 can output 900 mA (source: http://www.diffen.com/difference/USB_2.0_vs_USB_3.0). This means that the wall outlet can charge more than 2x faster than the computers 3.0 port and 4x faster than the computers 2.0 port.
2000 mA wall vs. 900 mA 3.0 port vs. 500 mA 2.0 port
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So you cant plug a usb 3.0 cord in to a usb 2.0 port? But you can plug a usb 2.0 cord in to a 3.0 port? I pkug regular 2.0 usb cord into my laptops 3.0 port because it allows charging while the laptop is powered off. Just trying to figure out how this works.
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USB 3.0 with Xperia

OK to use USE 3.0 speeds if I understand this, you need:
- a USB 3.0 port on your computer
- a USB 3.0 cable
As far as I know, you do NOT need a 'USB 3.0 device'. So we could transfer data faster on our Xperias using the above? I'm about to get a new laptop and will definitely aim for USB 3.0 if this is correct. Then you just need to buy a new micro USB 3.0 cable, like on eBay or something, true? Anyone done this yet? I'm browsing on eBay for a new cable, but the micro USB 3.0 end piece does not look like the one for my phone now. e.g.
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/USB-3-0-8-Pi...USB_Cables&hash=item2eae4dca6e#ht_2370wt_1270
SharpnShiny said:
OK to use USE 3.0 speeds if I understand this, you need:
- a USB 3.0 port on your computer
- a USB 3.0 cable
As far as I know, you do NOT need a 'USB 3.0 device'. So we could transfer data faster on our Xperias using the above? I'm about to get a new laptop and will definitely aim for USB 3.0 if this is correct. Then you just need to buy a new micro USB 3.0 cable, like on eBay or something, true? Anyone done this yet? I'm browsing on eBay for a new cable, but the micro USB 3.0 end piece does not look like the one for my phone now. e.g.
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/USB-3-0-8-Pi...USB_Cables&hash=item2eae4dca6e#ht_2370wt_1270
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USB 3 DOES require a USB 3 compatible device... i.e. USB 3 compatible devices on both ends...
Ah this is annoying, the first place I read it said you don't need a 3.0 device, the second place I read it said it works as fast as the slowest device - which could be 2.0. Info. is a little sparse on this, isn't it? But it's been in for a few years. Is it really worth getting 3.0 if adoption is so slow?
No, because our devices have only microUSB v2.0, so we can only have the speed of USB 2.0.
You can try, but you won't get more speed out of it.
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Then you just need to buy a new micro USB 3.0 cable, like on eBay or something, true? Anyone done this yet? I'm browsing on eBay for a new cable, but the micro USB 3.0 end piece does not look like the one for my phone now. e.g. ]
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You can use usb2.0 cable without problems, USB3.0 standard is backwards compatible with usb 2.0. You should probably get faster charge times with USB3.0 because of higher rated mA on ports...
I like the sound of that!
I have heard of many problems with USB 2 devices in 3 ports. Driver issues apparently.
I look forward to phones which support USB 3 because that's now a missing link the chain - the computers selling now have the ports. I was a bit doubtful of the 'real' benefits of the speed (I was quite young when USB 2 came in) but my God, it is fantastic. I backup my hard drive frequently and I am amazed at the speed every time. :laugh:
Hi,
the only problem you can have by using USB3.0 port for your smartphone, it's a driver problem.
For the speed of transfert, you need USB3 port, USB3 cable and... USB3 device .
The connector of USB3 (device side) is different from USB2 and I never saw USB3 cable with micro port (used on our smartphone).
It's a shame, I can't wait for USB 3.0 phones! I didn't care much about until I got my first USB 3.0 hard drive...wow
but why need usb 3.0?
the best would be a class 10 sdcard -- so writing files into the phone's memory card is faster.
10 sd will be enough
Yep ultimately I would prefer to use a phone's flash memory. I've experimented with music library management on Android but I for my next option I think I'd go with an iOS device.

Any USB 3.0 OTG cable on the market?

Hi,
Do you know does any USB 3.0 OTG cable for Note 3 on the market?
Can have faster speed than USB 2.0?
juku- Found this on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-...TF8&colid=2S39TJNXK1J0Y&coliid=I24AOP5P6N790M
Unfortunatley that is simply a 9FT USB 3.0 to microUSB 3.0 cable. I don't know of any OTG 3.0 cables.
I'm interested in this too but I think it's going to be a while before we get one. It's the first phone that has 3.0.
eldhojohn said:
this one, http://dx-box.com/original-new-micr...ta-cable-for-samsung-galaxy-note-3-n9000.html
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Also not an OTG cable.
If you want to buy 100, alibaba have listings. Maybe you could pass that link to your supplier of choice
rawhide85 said:
juku- Found this on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-...TF8&colid=2S39TJNXK1J0Y&coliid=I24AOP5P6N790M
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too thick.....................
here is a good place to buy but it usually take a month for me to get it from hong kong.
http://dx.com/s/micro+usb+3.0
unlockingsky said:
too thick.....................
here is a good place to buy but it usually take a month for me to get it from hong kong.
http://dx.com/s/micro+usb+3.0
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Thanks for the link!
By OTG (On the go) you mean like a retractable, or very small cable? like portable?
jollyjones said:
By OTG (On the go) you mean like a retractable, or very small cable? like portable?
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No, you are not getting it.
On The go (OTG) is connected a bit differently than a usb cable.
It's basicly telling your Phone that The usb drive is going to connect to The Phone and not The Phone to a computer. It's all about slaves and masters. Phone and usb are slaves, so they cannot comunicate. With OTG it makes The Phone a master. So then they can comunicate.
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Those seems NOT OTG cables.
Don't know if USB 3.0 OTG will speed up or just same as USB 2.0.
U can use original micro USB otg cable as well if that helps while waiting on new ones coming to market
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Finally available!
There is now a black one available on eBay
Black Micro USB 3.0 9pin OTG Host Flash Disk Cable for Galaxy Note 3 N9000 10cm
And a white one on cable.cc
Micro USB 3.0 9pin OTG Host Flash Disk Cable for Samsung Galaxy Note3 N9000 White Color 10cm
(also being discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2439113)
what's the point of an OTG cable?
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what's the point of an OTG cable?
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Connecting a keyboard mouse etc. or any other USB device.
Personally, I use it with my Nexus 7 for watching moving on long flights. I keep the movies on USB sticks to avoid filling the Nexus and just plug in the stick when I want to watch the movie.
How is an USB 3.0 OTG connected?
To my knowledge OTG-cable reqire connectors with a 5 th pin which is used for sensing, and connected to ground. Therefore OTG won't be available to USB 2.0 Type A and B connecter because those lack the 5 th pin.
What I could not find so far does a USB 3.0 OTG just rely on the 5th pin of it's USB 2.0 part or does it some other way?
If you read english etnews com electronics/2850538_1303 (sorry cannot give dierct link) you'll find that Samsung intends to block second source manufacterer from providing accessories similar to printer manufacterers with cartridges. Did anyone read how they intend to do this e.g. NFC?
is there any difference in speed between usb2 and usb3 otg cable?
Here is one I just order. I bought from this seller before and his shipping speed is pretty good I bought batteries and brick chargers and they came in in about 9 days.
Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=290997314341
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http://www.amazon.com/Black-Color-M...d=1383144511&sr=8-1&keywords=note+3+otg+cable
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There are actually several on Amazon just search. But I do wonder if it will switch to airplane mode if you actually try and use the usb 3.0 speeds.
666syco said:
Here is one I just order. I bought from this seller before and his shipping speed is pretty good I bought batteries and brick chargers and they came in in about 9 days.
Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=290997314341
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why order from china and wait 9 days ?there has to be a u.s.a.store that carries them most amazon and ebay come from china..

[Q] MHL cable

I've never actually tried to use an MHL cable for my phones before, so I was wondering if this would be compatible for my N3: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ATDA8C8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1AMUYYA3CT6HJ
Doesn't list N3 as one of the compatible devices but I figured that the N3 was backwards compatible with a micro usb, it shouldn't be a problem.
Does anyone know? And do I just plug it in and I'm good to go?
I use one off eBay that cost £3 that I used for my HTC One but it has a power source as well
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CalvinL said:
I've never actually tried to use an MHL cable for my phones before, so I was wondering if this would be compatible for my N3: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ATDA8C8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1AMUYYA3CT6HJ
Doesn't list N3 as one of the compatible devices but I figured that the N3 was backwards compatible with a micro usb, it shouldn't be a problem.
Does anyone know? And do I just plug it in and I'm good to go?
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Hi Calvin,
This one can not compatible with Note 3 for the Micro USB port of is different from the Micro USB port of Note 2/S4/S4.
The Samsung Galaxy Note 3 comes with USB 3.0 port.
Yes it will work with the Note 3. As long as it's an 11 pin adapter it'll work. The difference lies between mhl 1.0 and mhl 2.0. Mhl 1.0 requires you being plugged into a power source, 2.0 doesn't. Having usb 3.0 on our phones makes no difference. It's no different than being able to use a standard micro usb to charge our phones.
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my mhl 1 adapter not working
I have an MHL 1 adapter and it isn't working on my note 3. it is powered and I plug into my hdmi port on my monitor and nothing. I don't see a setting to enable so I suspect it supposed to happen automatically.
I bought this one.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1001326-REG/kanex_s3hdtv_mhl_2_0_to_hdtv.html
The plug fits both note 3 and note 8.0. I will test it later today.
money226 said:
Yes it will work with the Note 3. As long as it's an 11 pin adapter it'll work. The difference lies between mhl 1.0 and mhl 2.0. Mhl 1.0 requires you being plugged into a power source, 2.0 doesn't. Having usb 3.0 on our phones makes no difference. It's no different than being able to use a standard micro usb to charge our phones.
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I have a samsung MHL 1.0 adapter on my s4 and note 3 and i dont need a power source to run it
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I have a samsung MHL 1.0 adapter on my s4 and note 3 and i dont need a power source to run it
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Then it's MHL 2.0. Google it. You have to have a power source prior to.
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money226 said:
Yes it will work with the Note 3. As long as it's an 11 pin adapter it'll work. The difference lies between mhl 1.0 and mhl 2.0. Mhl 1.0 requires you being plugged into a power source, 2.0 doesn't. Having usb 3.0 on our phones makes no difference. It's no different than being able to use a standard micro usb to charge our phones.
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How do I tell if it's an 11-pin? It doesn't say in the link.
Ideally, I'd like one that's compatible with GS3 and N2 because other people in my house own them.
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Then it's MHL 2.0. Google it. You have to have a power source prior to.
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Nope, not true. I have an old Samsung MHL 1.0 adapter that I use with the 5 to 11 pin adapter and the Note 3 powers it fine all on it's own. I also have the MHL 2.0 adapter from Samsung and that doesn't require the adapter but does NOT work if plugged into an AV Receiver (even when plugged into a dedicated MHL port). The MHL 1.0 adapter worked fine plugged into the AV Receiver but when I plug in the MHL 2.0 cable it pops up a message saying 'Plug HDMI cable directly into TV'. I even tried it with a Redmere (active) HDMI cable to see if that would fool it but it didn't.
It does work when plugged into the TV but I get no audio since the AV Receiver provides audio and the TV is HDMI 1.3 so no audio return.
On a side note the MHL connector (Yamaha RX-A1030) does not provide charging power (or any power at all) despite Yamaha's extensive marketing of the benefits of MHL (vs a plain old HDMI input). With an external power source connected to the MHL 2.0 cable I see 700mA charging current (vs 1200 if I plug the cable directly into the Note 3).
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Nope, not true. I have an old Samsung MHL 1.0 adapter that I use with the 5 to 11 pin adapter and the Note 3 powers it fine all on it's own. I also have the MHL 2.0 adapter from Samsung and that doesn't require the adapter but does NOT work if plugged into an AV Receiver (even when plugged into a dedicated MHL port). The MHL 1.0 adapter worked fine plugged into the AV Receiver but when I plug in the MHL 2.0 cable it pops up a message saying 'Plug HDMI cable directly into TV'. I even tried it with a Redmere (active) HDMI cable to see if that would fool it but it didn't.
It does work when plugged into the TV but I get no audio since the AV Receiver provides audio and the TV is HDMI 1.3 so no audio return.
On a side note the MHL connector (Yamaha RX-A1030) does not provide charging power (or any power at all) despite Yamaha's extensive marketing of the benefits of MHL (vs a plain old HDMI input). With an external power source connected to the MHL 2.0 cable I see 700mA charging current (vs 1200 if I plug the cable directly into the Note 3).
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I stand corrected. I knew there was only a few phones capable without external power but haven't had a chance to test on the Note 3. I was under the impression from what I've read that it had to be mhl 2.0 adapter not just the phone. I have a HTC One and my trusty old 5 pin, I sold my 11 pin a long time ago with my S3. I'm waiting on my 11 pin mhl 2.0 to get here now.
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CalvinL said:
How do I tell if it's an 11-pin? It doesn't say in the link.
Ideally, I'd like one that's compatible with GS3 and N2 because other people in my house own them.
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Search for an 11 pin specifically or a 5 pin with 11 pin adapter. Here is a link to one on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CTK0TSW/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_Fccxsb1RNZGE8
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CalvinL said:
How do I tell if it's an 11-pin? It doesn't say in the link.
Ideally, I'd like one that's compatible with GS3 and N2 because other people in my house own them.
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Look at the bottom (hook) side of the plug.
11 pin has a groove on the middle.
money226 said:
I stand corrected. I knew there was only a few phones capable without external power but haven't had a chance to test on the Note 3. I was under the impression from what I've read that it had to be mhl 2.0 adapter not just the phone. I have a HTC One and my trusty old 5 pin, I sold my 11 pin a long time ago with my S3. I'm waiting on my 11 pin mhl 2.0 to get here now.
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Search for an 11 pin specifically or a 5 pin with 11 pin adapter. Here is a link to one on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CTK0TSW/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_Fccxsb1RNZGE8
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It's out of stock atm. I'm trying to look for one without a power source and is compatible with S3/N2, which I'm guessing should be all of them since they both use an 11-pin.
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Then the one I linked should work fine despite aaa111sss said about it, right?
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Yeah he's thinking that it has to be the same connector as the usb 3.0. It doesn't. Standard micro usb plugs up to our phones. We just don't get the benefits of 3.0 with them. The biggest factor in usb 3.0 is the data transfer rates and I'm guessing charging rate although I'm unsure about the charging thing.
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CalvinL said:
How do I tell if it's an 11-pin? It doesn't say in the link.
Ideally, I'd like one that's compatible with GS3 and N2 because other people in my house own them.
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The (official Samsung ) MHL adapter of the sgs3 and note2 work great on the note 3
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money226 said:
Yeah he's thinking that it has to be the same connector as the usb 3.0. It doesn't. Standard micro usb plugs up to our phones. We just don't get the benefits of 3.0 with them. The biggest factor in usb 3.0 is the data transfer rates and I'm guessing charging rate although I'm unsure about the charging thing.
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I just realized it requires a power source, which I'm not interested in. Don't really want any more than one chord connecting directly to my TV if possible. There's a few adapters that are cheaper for around $10, so I'm trying to looking for one without a power source and is compatible with S3/N2 (which I'm guessing is all of them since they both use 11-pin). Is it unreasonable to get one for around $15-18?
This is what I searched: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p...l+hdmi&ie=UTF8&qid=1381784572&rnid=2470954011
Unless I missed something, they all seem to need a power source.
According to CraigAmey they will work without a power source but if you're questioning it look specifically for mhl 2.0 11 pin. I know for a fact mhl 2.0 adaptors don't require it. I'm working but when I get the chance I'll post the link for one I found earlier.
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I did talk to Samsung advanced tech support about the MHL 2.0 adapter not working when plugged into a receiver. In short what he said was they never wanted it to work but the MHL 2.0 is the first one that can tell what it's plugged into, and therefore lock you out of using anything other than a TV or monitor. So all of those companies putting MHL inputs on their receivers (Yamaha, Pioneer) may as well not bother because Samsung are explicitly locking their latest devices to not support them.
Also while I've verified that the Note 3 can be used with either MHL 1.0 or 2.0 adapters without external power it does drain the battery pretty fast when you hook this up so if you're planning on watching a long movie you might want to connect power anyway. I haven't had a chance to test if any of the OTG peripherals work with the MHL 2.0 adapter yet either, that's next.
CraigAmey said:
I did talk to Samsung advanced tech support about the MHL 2.0 adapter not working when plugged into a receiver. In short what he said was they never wanted it to work but the MHL 2.0 is the first one that can tell what it's plugged into, and therefore lock you out of using anything other than a TV or monitor. So all of those companies putting MHL inputs on their receivers (Yamaha, Pioneer) may as well not bother because Samsung are explicitly locking their latest devices to not support them.
Also while I've verified that the Note 3 can be used with either MHL 1.0 or 2.0 adapters without external power it does drain the battery pretty fast when you hook this up so if you're planning on watching a long movie you might want to connect power anyway. I haven't had a chance to test if any of the OTG peripherals work with the MHL 2.0 adapter yet either, that's next.
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That's a good point. Thanks.
After looking through some more on Amazon, I'm thinking my original linked cable should work fine, but I'm not sure which one I should get: http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters...id=1381792525&sr=1-4&keywords=galaxy+mhl+hdmi
I can't seem to tell the difference between the three options. Also, after searching for a few of these on amazon, I'm worried that it won't actually charge the phone while in use. I'm getting conflicting reports according to the reviews over whether or not it charges the phone. I want to use this occasionally, but mainly for my mother to watch some of the shows she has on her phone, so it's quite important that it charges.
All share cast dongle is the way to go.
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500 gb hard drive connection

Hello everyone, Im not sure if this topic has been discuss in detail or not, but I have managed to connect a spare 500gb hard drive to my note 3. Here is everything I used.
I upgraded my laptop to a Samsung 250gb SSD, which provided me with a spare HDD:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-MZ-7T...=1387366438&sr=8-2&keywords=samsung+250gb+ssd
It comes with a cable already in it (USB 2.0) so this next item is optional, A Apricorn USB 3.0 Transger cable:
http://www.amazon.com/Apricorn-Note...qid=1387366498&sr=8-1&keywords=apricorn+clone
And lastly, it needs to connect to the phone, so I picked up this USB 3.0 OTG cable:
http://www.amazon.com/White-Color-M...7366411&sr=8-3&keywords=galaxy+note+3+usb+otg
Now here is the steps I took.
Since my HDD still had stuff on it, and it was partitioned, I had to wipe it clean. I formatted the HDD on my computer first. I formatted it to exfat. Maybe another way will work but I'm not testing it. I then hooked up all the wires accordingly and plugged it into my phone. The N3 did not recognize the file format of the HDD so I re-formatted it to the N3 standard. After that, it is as simple as plug and play. I was even able to use the stock My Files app.
Note*** obviously the SSD is not a requirement, unfortunately, I am unable to test it as it has been in my computer for several months and I dont want to risk corrupting anything. It may work with the SSD as well, although I doubt it will reach the speeds it can on a computer.
I am not rooted and did not have to download anything extra for it.
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Cool. But curious as to why you would need a 500G HDD attached to the N3
unleashd said:
Cool. But curious as to why you would need a 500G HDD attached to the N3
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You can use this powerful phone for other things like use it as a media center and connect the phone to your TV
tyvar1 said:
You can use this powerful phone for other things like use it as a media center and connect the phone to your TV
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Hmm..Never thought of that :good:
Transfer movies and stuff back and forth. Also pictures, downloaded documents. Mostly my school work is backed up to it now so if Google drive fails. I'll still be safe :beer:
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Can never have too much space
tyvar1 said:
You can use this powerful phone for other things like use it as a media center and connect the phone to your TV
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This. We were using a variant setup, pushing the content via DLNA to our Xbox 360 (connected to a good ole 'dumb' tube TV). Quite enjoyable.
Damn I didnt even know you could do this
Has anyone found a way to pass through power with a splitter or something so while connecting the USB OTG cable you could still run the phone off of power without depleting the battery? I asked this same question in the Note 8 forum but no one found a way.
trillog said:
Damn I didnt even know you could do this
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I'm sure it can be done. That would be ideal. I have the 10,000mah zero Lemmon battery set to notify me when it's available again. I'll look around for a spilter
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what format was the hdd in exFAT or NTFS ?
I use the OTG dongle to hook up my 1TB drive and play movies and TV shows directly from the drive.
(Also works with the tablet)
I formatted it to exfat. I have a 1tb external also. But it's already formatted to ntfs. And it's full so I'm not going to risk losing a thing on it.
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justin94 said:
Hello everyone, Im not sure if this topic has been discuss in detail or not, but I have managed to connect a spare 500gb hard drive to my note 3. Here is everything I used.
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This is awesome! I have an otg on order from Amazon. I was hoping to use a Logitech wireless receiver for my mouse, and a large 3.0 usb when needed.
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Do not remember where, maybe mono price, but have seen micro USB 2.0 to USB 'A' female splitters.
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Has anyone found a way to pass through power with a splitter or something so while connecting the USB OTG cable you could still run the phone off of power without depleting the battery? I asked this same question in the Note 8 forum but no one found a way.
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Because it's not supposed to work that way... The OTG cable puts your device in "host" mode... so it will use the phones power to run your HDD and kill the ability to charge... there are ways to get power to the HDD so you don't drain your device battery as much but the charging thing is a native function of OTG switching.
This is what i've been using... it has HDMI out ... microUSB 5v input to run the HDD... USB port for HDD or any other USB device... (using a wireless keyboard on it right now)... and card reader ports...
You can fake this thing into trying to charge the phone by plugging in the micro USB connection first and THEN plugging the hub into the phone with the microUSB power already on... then you see the charge notification in the status bar but it still doesn't charge the device... even with the samsung 2amp charger as a power supply... the battery still drains
What about wireless charging? I Don't have a wireless charger or battery cover to test this. But this may work
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What about wireless charging? I Don't have a wireless charger or battery cover to test this. But this may work
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That actually is a good idea to try. I'm less optimistic about that as my previous experience with wireless charging has shown that it is less efficient t getting current to the phone as a wired connection and there are some things done on your phone that even when plugged to a 2A wired connection will still drain the battery.
What about the Smart dock? With 2 USB ports an HDMI and power in?
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there are some things done on your phone that even when plugged to a 2A wired connection will still drain the battery.
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That's the problem I'm running into... I'm running the HDMI/MHL/OTG hub... I got the HDMI out to my flat screen... OTG to a wireless keyboard... bluetooth mouse... When it all hooks up properly (you have to plug everything in the right order) the Note 3 screen shuts off and it runs as a proper CPU with output to the flat screen...but even with the samsung 2 amp charger plugged in I still lose about 1% battery every 5 minutes... better than running without the charger but that s$#t can't be good for the battery running that hard and charging at the same time AND losing the battle.

what's the other hole for?

What's the other hole at the bottom of the USB for? I noticed that the USB cable that comes with the S5 covers both holes but I've been using a Micro USB to charge it...does it make it charge faster or something?
USB 3.0 standard plug.
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USB 3.0 standard plug.
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i see...so it's mainly for data transfering then? or does it charge faster to compared with microusb (looking from bottom, i only have it plugged in the right side with micro usb)
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i see...so it's mainly for data transfering then? or does it charge faster to compared with microusb (looking from bottom, i only have it plugged in the right side with micro usb)
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It charges a lot faster indeed.
The difference is usb 3 vs usb 2. If you are using for instance an S4 cable you are connected at usb 2 speeds. The cable supplied with the S5 has 2 parts because it is usb 3 connection. You will definitely get a faster data transfer speed using the usb 3 cable. I would guess that charging would be faster also but I can't verify that. One of the big upgrades in the S5 is usb 3 compared to usb 2 for the S4.
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The difference is usb 3 vs usb 2. If you are using for instance an S4 cable you are connected at usb 2 speeds. The cable supplied with the S5 has 2 parts because it is usb 3 connection. You will definitely get a faster data transfer speed using the usb 3 cable. I would guess that charging would be faster also but I can't verify that. One of the big upgrades in the S5 is usb 3 compared to usb 2 for the S4.
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That's also reliant on the fact that your PC or whatever it is you are connecting to is USB 3. You can't get USB 3 speeds if your connecting to a USB 2 port on the PC.
It's the one where she goes "AHHHHHHHHHH"
and you go "sorry"
DOH!
The faster charging only applies to charging from plugging into a computer. USB 3.0 ports have higher maximum output than USB 2.0

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