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I am looking to buy the Prime as it was offered as a birthday present, and on the 12th we were set to pick it up but I was warned that there were serious WiFi and Bluetooth problems as well as the original GPS issues. I want it for general use such as browsing, playing games, a bit of word processing and mainly because I just want a tablet. I was offered an iPad 2 as a second option but much prefer everythif about the Prime. I have read Amazon.com reviews and they haven't mentioned Bluetooth issues just the wifi and said it was better than some people say it supposedly is? I was just looking for general pointers including positives and negatives on the Prime Tablet (TF201) and wondering how bad the actual wifi is and if a wifi signal booster on the router at home would solve the issue?
Any help would be much appreciated
Yes you should buy it there is zero problems with any of the Primes ignore any threads that might say otherwise people are just complaining to see themselves type.
I say it is a good buy. My wifi works fine at home and work which are the only places I have tried it. I have only tested Bluetooth and wifi concurrently with a Bluetooth controller and had no issues with either. The wifi on my prime is better than my Droid charge's wifi in fact.
As far as GPS is concerned, I can get locks without wifi though the accuracy is poor compared to my phone, Garmin handheld, and Garmin navigation devices. I have not tested the GPS at any higher rated of speed or over more distance than walking in my front yard so also can't comment on its use for navigational purposes.
I am happy with my prime and have no remorse about the purchase.
Yes, unlike all the people complaining here.... I have found it to be very nice haven't had any issues yet!
Be warned that a good percent of the tablets are defected by some sort of issue. In my case, the WiFi wouldn't work at all but Best Buy is now doing a swapping program for the tablet. I am so happy Best Buy is doing this for me
Be aware that Asus removed the gps from the specs, the metal backplate also affects wifi and bluetooth to a lesser extent. If possible ask for a demo of the features before you buy it.
Buy it! The progress with root and overclocking without even the unlocked bootloader has been amazing. I think we're in for a really awesome, dev-friendly tablet. Don't miss it!
If you don't need reliable GPS and can stay reasonably close to your AP then yes, it is a good choice. But if you want those things then wait and get the 700 which appears to be what we thought we were getting in the first place.
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Yes. Absolutely. Just get one that works. I'm ROCKING Out quad core 1600mhz!!!!
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jdbaker82 said:
Yes you should buy it there is zero problems with any of the Primes ignore any threads that might say otherwise people are just complaining to see themselves type.
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Now that's not true is it?
I say go ahead and get it, unless the GPS is a big thing to you
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Yes you should buy it there is zero problems with any of the Primes ignore any threads that might say otherwise people are just complaining to see themselves type.
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You forgot the /sarcasm tag at the end.
Reality check: The problems are not as widespread as one might think after looking at the forums here but there is a substantial percentage of chance that you might run into one of several problems. This, ignoring the Wi-Fi and GPS ones, which may or may not be a problem for you depending on your hardware setup around the house and need for a navigation enabled tablet.
It is truly a great product, but there are times when the software does hickup. That is nothing to worry about, because ICS is brand new and is only like 4 devices (officially). Plus we are getting unlocked bootloaders and then will be able to do some pretty amazing things. Ironically, we still can do amazing things, due to having root and being able to overclock. With time software issues will be fixed, as ICS only became available over the air updating 2 days ago. It will be perfect within a month or so.
The magic 8 ball says : too early to tell
Its personal preference, do you ride gnarly wave that's the cutting edge tech of android and have these sort of growing pains or do you play it safe and go with a solid proven device that won't play with any of your files without hacking it , not to mention you selling your soul to a single manufacturer if you go Apple..
That said I'm happy with mine and have little issues and feel my tablet will be future proof for a bit longer then what else is on the market, if you go with the prime prepare yourself for an exchange it seems to be 50/50 on getting a good one and from what i can see here is the people who managed to get good ones love em,myself included , take it FWIW...
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I'm looking to get my first Android tablet. I've always rooted and run custom firmware on my Android phones, so I need a "cheap" Android tablet with a healthy developer community and a lot of support.
My first thought was to go for the $250 Nook Tablet, spec for spec it's better than the Kindle Fire; but didn't an update come out for it recently that made rooting it near impossible or so highly difficult that it hasn't been done yet?
Then the $200 Kindle Fire came to mind, very popular tablet must mean a very healthy/active hacking/dev community right? But isn't it also locked down in such a way it can't be rooted or modified anymore? I need a working Android Market (Oh I'm sorry, I mean <sarcasm>Play Store</sarcasm>) and good custom ROM's including ICS.
Then I see a $189 Lenovo A1 Tablet at Best Buy with decent specs. It's running Android 2.3 which I'd normally prefer over Android 3.0/Honeycomb but now that ICS/Android 4.0 is out, I'd definately want to run that on my tablet.
So is ICS running very good/stable on any sub $300 Android tablet? I wonder when the $250 Tegra3 based tablet from Asus (or is it Acer...) comes out. Suggestions on which route to go?
You should really do some reading/research because almost all of your perceptions are way off.
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Yeah, I plan on researching it to no end. That's what I tend to do, read through the various forums, FAQ's, etc. I don't purchase blindly (even for a 'budget' tablet), but before I did I wanted to drop these questions out there to see if somebody who's a lot more familiar with these devices has an opinion or if somebody who's already done a lot of research could pipe in. I wanted to use a combo of my own research and direct recommendations/observations from people more familiar with this Android tablets than I. I'm more into the Android Phone hacking community, I've rooted many various Android models and have run a lot of custom firmwares on various models. I'm sure I'll adapt quickly enough to the tablet scene but while I'm getting my feet wet I was hoping to hear from more experienced people.
Basic research leads me to believe the Nook Tablet has superior hardware but not as active a dev community as the others. It's a shame cause the hardware is nice. The only real ICS ROM for the Nook Tablet is Alpha status with a lot of known bugs, no where near daily driver ready. But CM7 seems to be a popular ROM for this tablet and it seems to be stable enough for Daily Driver status. I'm leaning more toward the Kindle Fire as they have ICS with only 3 real main known issues (HW Acceleration, 720p Video and Bluetooth). But I'm also seeing that they have CM9 running on the HP Touchpad (which has the best HW out of all these devices) but they have several more known issues. I like that the HP Touchpad can dual boot webos and Android though, always wanted to play with WebOS and the superior HW is nice (I mean it was a $500 tablet in its hay-day). Still researching.
The main problem is. initially the nook tablet was-and still is- locked down tighter than a virgin princess with a chastity belt, thus we only had a few devs working on it as most abandoned the tablet and moved to the fire/other tablets/phones, but we had adam and indirect and a few others tinker and twist and mangle and mutilate the tablet until we are where we are.
cm9 is behind the cm7 team only because they decided to do the 3.0 kernel? vs the 2.6.7(or something like that), and the 3.0 kernal has been giving them...issues that they are resolving one by one.
the cm7 team, conversely, has had an easier time since they ported the nook color's cm7, tweaked of course, and are fixing things that are/were not working correctly.
HW accellaration/720p accell is working on cm7,
bluetooth and multitouch(more tha 2 at a time) are on the list of things to get done BUT, B&N did not include the "key" to activate the bluetooth(and fm radio) part of the chip so that is WAY down on the list of things to do.
if the nook tablet was "exactly" like the kindle fire for bootup/hackability, then it would be way ahead of the kindle fire at this time, but due to the initial problems the devs had getting root/breaking the bootchain to install alternate OS's....they are behind.
hardware wise the NT is better than the kindle fire,
personally my next tablet will -most likely- be the new asus that is coming out in a few months (tegra quad core) that is going to be 250.
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Basic research leads me to believe the Nook Tablet has superior hardware but not as active a dev community as the others.
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Yes to the first part, no to the second part. You're mistaking size with activity. The Nook tablet community is one of the most active communities I've encountered among ~12 devices that I've followed. Its small and tight knit but people are working constantly. Pop into the IRC channel or read some of the threads and you'll see that.
It's a shame cause the hardware is nice. The only real ICS ROM for the Nook Tablet is Alpha status with a lot of known bugs, no where near daily driver ready.
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True. But again, dedicated developers working hard on it.
But CM7 seems to be a popular ROM for this tablet and it seems to be stable enough for Daily Driver status.
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Yep. I have a Xoom with ICS and I'm anxious for CM9, but CM7 is more than adequate for what I use the NT for.
I'm leaning more toward the Kindle Fire as they have ICS with only 3 real main known issues (HW Acceleration, 720p Video and Bluetooth).
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Meh. The fire is simply a sub par device. The lack of an sd slot is a deal breaker for me as well. The only reason it got more hype than the Nook tablet is because of the $50 cheaper price tag. If B&N had released the 8GB NT first or at the same time as the 16GB tablet, you'd hear a lot more about it.
Think about it. Most people don't know much about specs and what not. They look at the price, see that the two devices are very similar but one is $50 cheaper. B&N really dropped the ball here.
But I'm also seeing that they have CM9 running on the HP Touchpad (which has the best HW out of all these devices) but they have several more known issues. I like that the HP Touchpad can dual boot webos and Android though, always wanted to play with WebOS and the superior HW is nice (I mean it was a $500 tablet in its hay-day). Still researching.
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HP Touchpad is a great device (I snagged 5 on the firesale and resold 4, kept one for a while for tinkering then gave it to a friend), but here you're talking about completely different form factor. Its a 9.7" I think? It is however being worked on by the official CM team and those guys are extremely dedicated. And I know quite a few people that use the latest CM9 Alpha as a daily driver. And I think they got Netflix working on it (not 100% sure though, haven't checked it in a few weeks).
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the cm7 team, conversely, has had an easier time since they ported the nook color's cm7, tweaked of course, and are fixing things that are/were not working correctly.
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This was for the first Alpha release. Alpha Final is a build from scratch for the Nook tablet.
personally my next tablet will -most likely- be the new asus that is coming out in a few months (tegra quad core) that is going to be 250.
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Rumors of a nexus tablet around the same time (possibly built by Asus, for Google).
If that happens, the nexus tablet will likely be the way to go (unless it doesn't have an sd slot).
Very nice info. Thanks guys. Yeah I'm leaning toward HP Touchpad ($225) or a Kindle Fire for ($140) used. But if a good deal on a Nook Tablet comes along, at least I know I can drop CM7 on it and it'll run good; bluetooth doesn't concern me that much, but multi-touch is fairly important.
Questions go in the Q&A section. There is a sticky stating that.
Request a moderator to move it. Thanks
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Questions go in the Q&A section. There is a sticky stating that.
Request a moderator to move it. Thanks
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Yep, crap, just saw that. Apologies everyone. You don't have to move this thread, you can just delete it or close it. I' tried to find controls to allow me to close or delete this thread but can't.
glitchsys said:
The only real ICS ROM for the Nook Tablet is Alpha status with a lot of known bugs, no where near daily driver ready.
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I've been using it since the day Alpha 0 came out, and couldn't be much happier with it. The WiFi is a little wonky if I don't turn it off before I turn the screen off, but CM7 was the same for me. The video acceleration is a little off when doing things fast, but for all the video watching and game playing I've done (and my kids have done) it has not caused any problems.
I would say the HP Touchpad is a great choice. I have two of the 16GB that I got direct from HP for $99 each them running CM7. I mostly use them as photoframes and use an HTC Evo View (32gb onboard storage) or HTC Flyer (16GB onboard storage) for daily useage. But the HP touchpad has the more development. There is a fair amount of dev for the Flyer, but not much development for the View but after installing VTLauncher and rooting and installing NoLock I am satisfied. I have also owned the Nook Color and Nook Tablet... but sold them once I tried a Flyer ($199 refurb) .... and then a View ($239 new). The NC or NT are both nice you are primarily looking for a reader with a few tablet functions. The Nook Color has more development but the Nook Tablet is noticeably faster. BTW I actually prefer Gingerbread to HoneyComb on the flyer and view. They have hw buttons for home, back, menu buttons so don't have to lose any screen when in full screen games but you lose the HW buttons in HC.
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Why don't you try an [B][I]android tablet from ESPOW[/I][/B]?
Why don't you try an android tablet from ESPOW?
Compared with others,it's low price with just $139 but has a lot of functions,such as WiFi,Supports 3D Video Decoder, enables you to play 3D games
Has three modes of operation: buttons, touch screen and Capacitive Touch Sense
Supports HDMI video
PMU Intelligent power management, 30% power save and lengthen the battery using time
Support most of audio format, multi-sound effect and cycleplay mode, enable you to enjoy listening to music
Support AVI, RM, RMVB, FLV, MP4, WMV, 3GP, MKV, etc. video format and support as high as 3840*2160P revolution playing
Built-in microphone and speaker, supports a super long recording time.
Never heard of ESPOW...
I decided on an HP Touchpad. I mean it's a $500 tablet and I was able to pickup the 32gb one for $190 shipped on EBay. I could have got a 16gb model for $170 but since it doesn't have a MicroSD card I decided more internal storage is best. I've seen CM9 running on my boss's HP Touchpad and it's quite stable, only 2 issues are Camera and Microphone but they work fine in the WebOS side.
This will hold me over until the $250 Asus with the Tegra3 comes out in a few months, or the Nexus Tablet for $150 comes out. I then may buy another tablet, if I found it useful enough, or just sell the Touchpad and pay the difference to get the upgraded Asus.
Thanks all for the advice though. I was down to the Kindle Fire or HP Touchpad and the HW is far superior in the Touchpad. The Kindle Fire though was cheaper/smaller/thinner/lighter and may have been a better option for my 2 year old who loves to play Angry Birds but the touchpad's hardware and fact that the wife would be using it a lot as well drew me to the touchpad.
I thought I'd ask:
I've read that there are gps issues... Is that fixed now?
Are there different models numbers to avoid.. I know some are dual and some are quad core but do roms lack support for different devices?
Any other issues with the device?
Gps is a design problem with the device. Its not even advertised as having GPS anymore.
At this point you should wait for the acer A510
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Iconia-A...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1332962137&sr=1-1
GPS most likely won't work at all and ASUS already removed it from their specs list. I suggest you worry about the weak wifi instead. Probably better to wait for the 700 or look into another tablet.
Hmm he acer is in a week with similar stats... I'll wait and check that out thanks
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Hmm he acer is in a week with similar stats... I'll wait and check that out thanks
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I also would suggest that you look at the tablets apps on Android vs the tablet apps of the iPad. Needless to say, there isn't even a tablet section for Android. So if tablet optimized apps are important to you....
The Transformer series remains unique in that they offer the integrated keyboard dock. If navigation-quality GPS is important to someone, then yes, the Prime is not currently the best option. Personally, I've found wifi performance to be perfectly acceptable, but some others haven't. Otherwise, the Prime is an excellent tablet offering great performance, excellent battery life, a nice (and uniquely bright) screen, and the ability to be used as an Android netbook when placed in the dock. And then, there are the intangibles such as the fact that ASUS has so far been much, much better at updating their Android tablets than anyone else, by far.
The Acer might end up being a decent enough Tegra 3 tablet, but I'd not be willing to say it's a better option for someone who doesn't care about using his tablet as a navigational device. I'd say, try the Prime, and if wifi works acceptably for everywhere it's needed, then keep it.
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I thought I'd ask:
I've read that there are gps issues... Is that fixed now?
Are there different models numbers to avoid.. I know some are dual and some are quad core but do roms lack support for different devices?
Any other issues with the device?
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First of all, this tablet rocks!!! In my case the GPS works like a charm and the device it self is quite solid!!! the Keybar add on is amazing and adds a lot of extra battery. My two cents.
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GPS most likely won't work at all and ASUS already removed it from their specs list. I suggest you worry about the weak wifi instead. Probably better to wait for the 700 or look into another tablet.
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I dont know about your Prime man, but I got one with C2 serial and everything just works, GPS signal may be a bit weaker than other devices I've used, but it works and Iget a lock without WiFi under 30 secs.
Wifi is also strong.. i lose some power once BT music starts streaming but I still have good speeds. Attached some screens:
- Internet while streaming A2DP audio
- Internet without Bluetooth on
- GPS Status with GPS lock
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I dont know about your Prime man, but I got one with C2 serial and everything just works, GPS signal may be a bit weaker than other devices I've used, but it works and Iget a lock without WiFi under 30 secs.
Wifi is also strong.. i lose some power once BT music starts streaming but I still have good speeds. Attached some screens:
- Internet while streaming A2DP audio
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Do you have to disable wifi to get a lock?
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Do you have to disable wifi to get a lock?
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Mmm no, it works with or without wifi. Its just faster to get a lock with WiFi on because of aGPS .
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I also would suggest that you look at the tablets apps on Android vs the tablet apps of the iPad. Needless to say, there isn't even a tablet section for Android. So if tablet optimized apps are important to you....
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Thats very true, im considering leaving for the iPhone 5 to when thats out, software updates on android are a joke, and app quality is huge...
FYI
There is only one model of the Prime. It's the Transformer Prime TF201 Quad Core Tegra 3 CPU
ASUS also makes the Transformer TF101 which is a Dual Core Tegra 2 CPU.
Both offer the docking keyboard but are two complely different animals.
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FYI
There is only one model of the Prime. It's the Transformer Prime TF201 Quad Core Tegra 3 CPU
ASUS also makes the Transformer TF101 which is a Dual Core Tegra 2 CPU.
Both offer the docking keyboard but are two complely different animals.
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Its actually the Asus EEEPad Transformer Prime TF201-B1
I plan on buying a prime Friday, could some one explain to me how they use the prime as a GPS unit while driving so I can test this out when I get mine. Also I currently have an HTC EVO with GPS would using the prime as a GPS unit over the EVO offer any advantages?
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I plan on buying a prime Friday, could some one explain to me how they use the prime as a GPS unit while driving so I can test this out when I get mine. Also I currently have an HTC EVO with GPS would using the prime as a GPS unit over the EVO offer any advantages?
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using prime as GPS navigation device is not optimal. it won't be better than your evo, as far as GPS goes. there will be a big announcement though so stay tuned
advantage of prime, when GPS working properly, would be the larger and higher quality screen size.
don't feed into all the issues hype so much. when you get your device. use it as you would normally any other device you own. then see if and where it falls short at. If you so bent on looking for something wrong, you'll convince yourself its there. even if it isn't.
i'm actually in the same boat you are and i am currently asking the same questions. my issue is price. the ipad2 is going for $360 right now! the transformer prime 32 GB (lowest model) is going for $499. the ipad3 is going for $499. The acer iconia A510 is up for preorder on amazon for $450 for the 32gb model no gps and 5MP camera back 1MP camera front @ 1280 x 800 and this will come out shortly.
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-A510-10k...TWPU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332977290&sr=8-1
so i'm kinda stuck. tegra 3 is much better than the apple ipad2 A5. I'll have to seriously consider the acer iconia but acer has always lacked dev support so i'll be looking to xda developers for help yet again like i am with LG. Thats not necessary a bad thing but it helps when the company supports their own products like asus. I'm also hoping that once asus sees the price on the iconia they will drop the price on the transformer prime to $450 aswell.
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using prime as GPS navigation device is not optimal. it won't be better than your evo, as far as GPS goes. there will be a big announcement though so stay tuned
advantage of prime, when GPS working properly, would be the larger and higher quality screen size.
don't feed into all the issues hype so much. when you get your device. use it as you would normally any other device you own. then see if and where it falls short at. If you so bent on looking for something wrong, you'll convince yourself its there. even if it isn't.
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Thank you kindly demandarin, that actually was my point. But I thought I might just ask to possibly gain an idea as to how the tablet would be more beneficial or even practical than using my phone. I don't mean to start some forum war over GPS, but can't see the level of importance that has been placed on it that has been made in the various Prime forums. I figure if apple can sell millions of tablets without GPS like an Android tablet has, then the vast majority of the tablet buying public could care less about that feature.
I look forward to the big announcement and thank you again for your response.
If you get the transformer get it for the dock. Its a unique and awesome experience. No other tablet will ever come close in that regard. That's the reason to get a prime IMHO and its a damn good reason.
If you just want any tablet you can get the tp as well. Its awesome just as a tablet, but take a look at the other ones such as the ipad as well. If you compare the ipad and the transformer without a dock they're both good tablets with its pros and cons. But if you add the functionality of the dock the prime is on another level.
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If you get the transformer get it for the dock. Its a unique and awesome experience. No other tablet will ever come close in that regard. That's the reason to get a prime IMHO and its a damn good reason.
If you just want any tablet you can get the tp as well. Its awesome just as a tablet, but take a look at the other ones such as the ipad as well. If you compare the ipad and the transformer without a dock they're both good tablets with its pros and cons. But if you add the functionality of the dock the prime is on another level.
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QFT.
The dock is what made me buy this tablet without even thinking. Being able to manually take notes in College + Keyboard when needed + Extra battery + USB and ANOTHER SD card slot just sealed the deal.
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i'm actually in the same boat you are and i am currently asking the same questions. my issue is price. the ipad2 is going for $360 right now! the transformer prime 32 GB (lowest model) is going for $499. the ipad3 is going for $499. The acer iconia A510 is up for preorder on amazon for $450 for the 32gb model no gps and 5MP camera back 1MP camera front @ 1280 x 800 and this will come out shortly.
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-A510-10k...TWPU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332977290&sr=8-1
so i'm kinda stuck. tegra 3 is much better than the apple ipad2 A5. I'll have to seriously consider the acer iconia but acer has always lacked dev support so i'll be looking to xda developers for help yet again like i am with LG. Thats not necessary a bad thing but it helps when the company supports their own products like asus. I'm also hoping that once asus sees the price on the iconia they will drop the price on the transformer prime to $450 aswell.
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And I was kinda in the same boat as you, I was told that the prime was in stock so I sold my OG transformer to get it. I also looked at the new ipad. I look at it like this if I want the most apps and games then I it's ipad. But for functionality, not only is it android but transformers in particular. I want the 32gb , the HDMI , the dock (for typing and game controllers), Onlive for games. Also, and I guess this is more subjective I dislike itunes and the ipad UI
I have a brand new set of Beats by Dre headphones that I wont ever use and I have an offer to trade them for a View 4G and another offer to trade for a Kindle Fire. Which would you choose? My only concern is the age of the View compared to the Fire, but I am a huge fan of HTC and their flexibility in modding.
Well the view is a full tablet. That's why I chose mine.
The view is a much, much better device. The kindle will likely have more future development
I Like HTC
I agree with mcord11758. I just made the View decision over a Galaxy 7 2. The HTC is a very solid box. I am running a customer HC ROM. I have only had it for a week, but I am quite happy with it.
The Fire will, no doubt receive further attention from Amazon.
How important is the camera for you? 5MP not all that powerful, but beats 0MP.
I already own 2 Nooks, a color and a tablet. The view performs in the same ball park as the tablet, even though the NT is a dual core processor.
If it were my choice I would go with the HTC. Seems that we will see, at least, ICS through the XDA group.
The Kindle Fire was my first tablet. I bought it new about three months ago and it definitely wet my appetite for another tablet. For the price, it is a great device. The development is decent and it gets the job done. Currently, developers are working on a kernel that would make ICS more stable and once they make that breakthrough there will be a lot more ROMs to choose from.
I recently bought a Flyer from the Marketplace here. I've only had it for a week but I have already fallen in love with it. The hardware feels much more solid than the Fire. Even though the Fire has more processing speed, it only has 512mb of RAM which could be an issue down the road. The screen on the Flyer is a little nicer (IMO) and the cameras are a nice feature (even if they're not the best). The biggest drawback to the Fire for me was the lack of a MicroSD slot. With only 8gb of storage, you're limited to what you can take with you if you go on a trip.
The Fire is a good 'starter' tablet but I would definitely recommend the Flyer over it.
What model of beats?
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Hi all.
So, me & my fiancee both still have a 7" HDX, 32GB, LTE version. Is there any benefit to "upgrading" to the new Amazon Kindle HD8?
I know that those don't have an LTE option, but they do support MicroSD, which is nice. I could live without LTE, and tether to my phone.
But - app wise, compatibility with other devices, performance - are they any better than my 4 year old HDX? They ARE cheap, and that's pleasant, but I can't decide whether they are any good.
I wish Amazon had stuck to the high end devices, like the HDX, but I still struggle to find any other tablets that work as well as the Kindle devices. I personally really like Amazon's UI, I prefer it to stock Android.
Thanks for any advice/opinions!
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Hi all.
So, me & my fiancee both still have a 7" HDX, 32GB, LTE version. Is there any benefit to "upgrading" to the new Amazon Kindle HD8?
I know that those don't have an LTE option, but they do support MicroSD, which is nice. I could live without LTE, and tether to my phone.
But - app wise, compatibility with other devices, performance - are they any better than my 4 year old HDX? They ARE cheap, and that's pleasant, but I can't decide whether they are any good.
I wish Amazon had stuck to the high end devices, like the HDX, but I still struggle to find any other tablets that work as well as the Kindle devices. I personally really like Amazon's UI, I prefer it to stock Android.
Thanks for any advice/opinions!
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HD 8 is inferior to HDX in terms of screen resolution, brightness, processor performance, memory speed and several important characteristics. Unless you require external storage support or are tied to Alexa and Amazon's eco-system HD 8 offers nothing appealing.
HD 8 can not be rooted (no custom ROMs) if that's a decision factor.
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HD 8 is inferior to HDX in terms of screen resolution, brightness, processor performance, memory speed and several important characteristics. Unless you require external storage support or are tied to Alexa and Amazon's eco-system HD 8 offers nothing appealing.
HD 8 can not be rooted (no custom ROMs) if that's a decision factor.
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No, custom ROMs are not an issue, as stated, I like the Amazon interface. It's just that quite a few apps will no longer update on the HDX, Facebook being an example. I use the browser version now, but it is annoying.
And I am planning to buy an Amazon Echo & a Firestick, so I will be using Alexa, but I don't necessarily NEED that on my tablet...
Just wanted to revive this thread...
Both me & my fiancée still rock the Gen 3 HDX 7". Still love it. But; app compatibility & updates are getting fewer & slower. Now, I know the new Fire devices aren't as high end as these were - BUT - they are new. The HDX is 4/5 years old now, and the hardware & software make them less & less usable, I find?
Now, I will probably keep mine & root it & install a custom ROM on it, but we both actually LIKE the Amazon UI, and we are heavily tied into the Amazon ecosystem, with e-books, audio books, Amazon Prime, etcetera.
So; are the new ones any better with app support? Worth the €80?
skoop99 said:
Just wanted to revive this thread...
Both me & my fiancée still rock the Gen 3 HDX 7". Still love it. But; app compatibility & updates are getting fewer & slower. Now, I know the new Fire devices aren't as high end as these were - BUT - they are new. The HDX is 4/5 years old now, and the hardware & software make them less & less usable, I find?
Now, I will probably keep mine & root it & install a custom ROM on it, but we both actually LIKE the Amazon UI, and we are heavily tied into the Amazon ecosystem, with e-books, audio books, Amazon Prime, etcetera.
So; are the new ones any better with app support? Worth the €80?
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I have several copies if both varients. All HDX are fully unlocked, running Lineage 14.1 and are my daily drivers. 8th gen HD 8s remain unrooted but tweaked with Nova and most Amazon apps/services disabled (using easily/fully reversible method). I like the larger panel on the HD 8 but it is decidedly heavier, slower and lower quality than the HDX. They both have their place. If you like Amazon's UI (including launcher) and their app portfolio then the HD 8 might be a good investment.
I've just found a tweak on here that helps keep the HDX usable, by allowing the GApps to be installed. However one of them is 100% NOT detected by Windows when I want to run a few ADB commands. Arse. Not at all. Charges via the USB port, but no data connection. That sucks...
So, the 8 may be coming to replace that one shortly, then. Is the 8 or the 7 a better option? You say it's heavier than the HDX; shame. I would have hoped that a newer device would have been leaner & sleeker. I preferred the 8 over the 7 due to the somewhat better hardware specs...
skoop99 said:
I've just found a tweak on here that helps keep the HDX usable, by allowing the GApps to be installed. However one of them is 100% NOT detected by Windows when I want to run a few ADB commands. Arse. Not at all. Charges via the USB port, but no data connection. That sucks...
So, the 8 may be coming to replace that one shortly, then. Is the 8 or the 7 a better option? You say it's heavier than the HDX; shame. I would have hoped that a newer device would have been leaner & sleeker. I preferred the 8 over the 7 due to the somewhat better hardware specs...
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Fire 7 is decidedly entry level; HD 8 is decent albeit no HDX. You can read the specs and reviews. HDX remains the better device once unlocked and equipped with a custom ROM which isn't that difficult. However, if you prefer Amazons ecosystem and FireOS UX the HD 8 or 10 are clearly the better options.
Edit: Installing GApps on FireOS v4 is a disaster. Be happy you encountered a minor technical glitch that prevented a self inflicted wound. ?