I have for the past few years always bought the phones I wanted from craigslist, I would get an att phone and then root+ custom rom then use on straightalk by setting the APN.
Well when the note 2 came out I really wanted one but couldnt find one under $600 used, so I got on a friends verizon plan and paid $300 for my note 2.
Fast foward a year or so and now she is letting the phones get shut off due to an outstanding balance on it (always paid my part)
So my question is.... will this phone need unlocked to be able to use it on straight talk? Would a root and custom rom be all thats needed or do i need to have it unlocked? I still have my straight talk sim card.
This is my first time dealing with a verizon phone and a situation like this.
Any help or suggestions are appreciated.
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Sorry, your current phone might not be eligible for any plan on VZW since she is terminating for outstanding payment. It depends if they block your device from the network or not, go to a Verizon store with your device and explain the situation, I'm sure they would try to retain the business if it is at all possible.
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You can use this phone on ATT and Tmobile and any of their MVNO's as well as on Pageplus, selectel and couple others.. So to answer your question NO you are not screwed you still have options..
This phone comes unlocked already no need to install custom rom. but you do need to change the APN's
just pull out the Verizon sim card and pop in the sim card you have and should work but you will have to change the apns for mms and data
Awesome... thanks
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No you're not. I've tested almost all gsm prepaid services and they work. Not lte speeds but at least hspa+
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I have tried a few times getting this answered, but never actually got an answer. I'm on an Alltel Smart plan, vzw has not engulfed the Alltel stores in our area. I've seen in posts that other members have gotten them to work on other networks, Alltel included, and I was just wondering how the whole process works? I've tried just switching it out with my current plan. The calls and text work, but not the data. Do I have to call vzw to unlock the sim card and that's all, or is there something more to it? I've looked and looked, and all I see is that it's possible, but not how to do it exactly. You can tell me it's possible to travel to the moon, but until you tell me how to build a rocket, I will never get there.
I don't think the data will work with alltel.
You can give Alltel a call and see what they say
The posts here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115840 suggest that it is possible, which I couldn't see why they wouldn't since the CDMA should still work, but I tried it once before and got nothing. I'm just curious if unlocking the SIM card would do it, or what I do have to do to get it to work.
I'm on an Alltel plan and I had no trouble activating the thunderbolt on my plan.
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Did you have data working on it? What did you do to get it working? Was it unlocked, or did that not matter since the SIM is only used by the 4G?
I'm going to have to go in extra early to work and phone it in, since my current phone is dead, and I want to have as much info as possible going into it.
Everything works just fine. The plan has nothing to do with the service you get from your phone. When Verizon bought Alltel they bought their towers as well so everything that worked with Alltel was transferred to Verizon.
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Tried phoning it in, to no avail. They asked for the MEID number. I thought it was the same as the EMEI number but wasn't sure so I played dumb. Got me nowhere since they couldn't find the model number of the TBolt in their system. And since the Desire's Number starts off A100 and the TBolt's starts off HT12, I can't pass it off as a desire? And they seem to be rather persistent on it being an alltel phone...
If your trying to activate this on at&t it will never work. The radio is a totally different band than the Verizon network.
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If your trying to activate this on at&t it will never work. The radio is a totally different band than the Verizon network.
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Alltel and att are 2 different companies
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Alltel and att are 2 different companies
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Thanks for clearing that up. I had no idea..... The desire sim will not work in the t bolt. I don't see how the t bolt could ever work on Alltel without being able to activate it with a sim in it. Call Verizon and talk to them about it. They should be able to transfer your account to Verizon no problem and send you a sim so you can activate the phone.
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If your trying to activate this on at&t it will never work. The radio is a totally different band than the Verizon network.
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Alltel, which you have verified was working on Alltel. They just keep giving me the runaround on activating it since it's not an Alltel phone.
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Thanks for clearing that up. I had no idea..... The desire sim will not work in the t bolt. I don't see how the t bolt could ever work on Alltel without being able to activate it with a sim in it. Call Verizon and talk to them about it. They should be able to transfer your account to Verizon no problem and send you a sim so you can activate the phone.
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The desire does not have a sim since it is only 3g capable.
You said earlier that you had your tbolt working on your alltel plan.
I don't want to switch to verizon.
Don't you love how people state that they have done something and do not provide a link or info to backup what they said could be done? People, if you say that you got something to work where others have not. Use a little common courtesy and provide some info. Otherwise you are either misleading or teasing some one for no good reason at all.
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All i did was call Verizon and had my plan from Alltel grandfathered over. How freaking hard is that to do? Is it that hard that a guide is really necessary? He will need a sim for his t bolt and the only way to get one is to have Verizon give him one.
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All i did was call Verizon and had my plan from Alltel grandfathered over. How freaking hard is that to do? Is it that hard that a guide is really necessary? He will need a sim for his t bolt and the only way to get one is to have Verizon give him one.
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You nor anyone ever said that you grandfathered over to vzw. It is not my plan, it is my parents and as they prefer to stay with alltel since they are cheaper, I don't really have that option.
As the post title says, I need to get the phone ACTIVATED on alltel, not grandfathered into a new plan. I've had the phone and text working on it before, I just needed assistance on getting the data to work on it if possible.
Posts here on the boards state that there are tbolts activated on alltel, but none state HOW. And since there is a sim card involved, that is all I'm trying to figure out. Is it possible as others' posts' suggest, or am I just sol until my contract expires in a few months?
I couldn't get the t bolt to activate without the sim. It will show a no sim error on the lockscreen and won't let data through. That is at least what I experienced. I would try talking to reps on Verizon and see what you can do because I bet if you get the right person on the line they will figure something out.
Check this link out https://vzwsupport.jive-mobile.com:443/#jive-discussion?content=%2Fapi%2Fcore%2Fv2%2Fdiscussions%2F593956
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I couldn't get the t bolt to activate without the sim. It will show a no sim error on the lockscreen and won't let data through. That is at least what I experienced. I would try talking to reps on Verizon and see what you can do because I bet if you get the right person on the line they will figure something out.
Check this link out https://vzwsupport.jive-mobile.com:443/#jive-discussion?content=/api/core/v2/discussions/593956
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Thank you. If I can get data to work, it is preferable, and since I was told in the first link I posted that a lot of members here had it, I thought I would try it. But I haven't gotten anywhere with anyone .
That link doesn't seem to work, it's error'ing out on me. I guess I'll just have to settle for call and text for awhile. Thanks tho, and sorry if I came off a bit harsh.
No big deal. The only way I've seen ( I have googled his by the way) is by getting your plan grandfathered over to Verizon.
You can't do everything without the sim in a t bolt.
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Hey guys,
I'm traveling to Greece for our honeymoon and want to be able to use my cell phone without paying Verizon's crazy international rates. I'm running Scott's CleanRom on Verizon. Can I simply buy a Vodafone prepaid Sim, pop it in, click add APN, add all the appropriate info for the access point, and then all good to go? I read imnuts post regarding this but am a little confused. Hopefully someone can help! Thanks in advance.
Perry
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pschatz12 said:
Hey guys,
I'm traveling to Greece for our honeymoon and want to be able to use my cell phone without paying Verizon's crazy international rates. I'm running Scott's CleanRom on Verizon. Can I simply buy a Vodafone prepaid Sim, pop it in, click add APN, add all the appropriate info for the access point, and then all good to go? I read imnuts post regarding this but am a little confused. Hopefully someone can help! Thanks in advance.
Perry
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That is correct. I recently did this with a Telus prepaid SIM, and worked just fine. Granted, I was using Beans18, but your method should still be correct.
In Greece right now and did just that! I only had to add an apn for data use. Really loving that I can do that with this phone.
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In Greece right now and did just that! I only had to add an apn for data use. Really loving that I can do that with this phone.
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What provider did you get the sum from? Do they have a data only sim?
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I'm using my-q which apparently is now owned by wind. I'm not sure if they do. But with my particular prepaid service you can add Internet bundles online so technically you could just use the money you put on your sim to replenish your data instead of adding more minutes.
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Long story short I have a white 16gb i605 with a small chip on the screen below the home button which is covered by the rubber case. It has an unpaid bill with Verizon. The stylus is missing.
It had the box and paperwork and charger and case with holster.
I use it through tmobile and I don't think it can be activated through Verizon due to the bill. I never tried.
I am going to get a bigger tablet and smaller phone. I tried this thinking it could combine two devices but really it has only replaced the phone and some of the stuffi use the tablet for so I'd rather just go back to small phone and big tablet.
I was just curious what is worth so I know what to sell it for.
Put it on ebay, its only worth what somebody will pay for it.
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I would be surprised if anyone wanted that thing. Sounds quite useless as you have no spen(big feature) and an unpaid bill. You better post all that info if you sell it. Don't be a jerk off
Lastly, if it is a t mobile phone, then why post this on a section where you don't think it can be activated? Why not post in t mobile?
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I would be surprised if anyone wanted that thing. Sounds quite useless as you have no spen(big feature) and an unpaid bill. You better post all that info if you sell it. Don't be a jerk off
Lastly, if it is a t mobile phone, then why post this on a section where you don't think it can be activated? Why not post in t mobile?
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It is a verizon phone. *I* use it with t-mobile. I was under the impression that s-pens were cheaper than new phones.
I would not try to sell it as a clean esn phone which is why I am trying to get a realistic value as it is.
BTW Its far from useless. I can use talkatone and use it as a voip phone, put a tmobile sim in and use it as a t-mobile phone, put in an at&t sim and use it as a AT&T phone or connect to wifi and have a great little wifi toy.
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It is a verizon phone. *I* use it with t-mobile. I was under the impression that s-pens were cheaper than new phones.
I would not try to sell it as a clean esn phone which is why I am trying to get a realistic value as it is.
BTW Its far from useless. I can use talkatone and use it as a voip phone, put a tmobile sim in and use it as a t-mobile phone, put in an at&t sim and use it as a AT&T phone or connect to wifi and have a great little wifi toy.
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Yeah sorry if I came off mean. Didn't mean to. Just want to make sure you are up front with the person about it. That's all
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I bought my i605 off of craigslist from somebody who had an unpaid bill, with plans of letting the bill go to collections. This was about 3 months ago and I have not had any issues. I am pretty sure that unpaid balances are tied to the sim card and not the phones esn.
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I sold my bad ESN completely shattered screen S3 on eBay 3 months ago for $270. I was also honest about the ESN and condition of the phone.
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I bought my i605 off of craigslist from somebody who had an unpaid bill, with plans of letting the bill go to collections. This was about 3 months ago and I have not had any issues. I am pretty sure that unpaid balances are tied to the sim card and not the phones esn.
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Pretty sure this is correct. You can look up countless videos on YouTube about this very issue. They usually just pop a new Sim in and its all good to go.
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These days bad ESN Verizon 4G phones are worth almost as much as clean ESN ones. You can always use an activated Verizon 4G sim in a verizon phone regardless of ESN status. If you go through Verizon for activation they will not activate it, but basically they can't stop you from using the hardware like the old days of 3G/pure CDMA hardware.
Good luck with your sale. If I were you I'd price it about $250 and it should sell like hotcakes.
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These days bad ESN Verizon 4G phones are worth almost as much as clean ESN ones. You can always use an activated Verizon 4G sim in a verizon phone regardless of ESN status. If you go through Verizon for activation they will not activate it, but basically they can't stop you from using the hardware like the old days of 3G/pure CDMA hardware.
Good luck with your sale. If I were you I'd price it about $250 and it should sell like hotcakes.
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So if I buy a phone with a bad ESN, can I just pop my sim in there and it will work fine?
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So if I buy a phone with a bad ESN, can I just pop my sim in there and it will work fine?
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Yes, I've done it and know several others who have as well. Bad ESN confirmed by Verizon CS, yet worked fine with my active sim.
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So if I buy a phone with a bad ESN, can I just pop my sim in there and it will work fine?
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I've set up 2 or 3 phones for friends by getting bad ESN examples from craigslist and using an existing VZW SIM with no problems, so I just wanted to chime in with an additional thumbs up.
I'm a new when it comes to this. But if I have a bad ESN Verizon note 2. Can I use it on straight talk at&t with no problems. Cuz the ESN is only banned from verizon?
Also. When using it on straight talk at&t I'd still use Verizon based roms and radios? Just straight talks correct APN settings for data to come in.
Do I need a special ROM to get rid of the this isn't a Verizon Sim card stuff.
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I'm a new when it comes to this. But if I have a bad ESN Verizon note 2. Can I use it on straight talk at&t with no problems. Cuz the ESN is only banned from verizon?
Also. When using it on straight talk at&t I'd still use Verizon based roms and radios? Just straight talks correct APN settings for data to come in.
Do I need a special ROM to get rid of the this isn't a Verizon Sim card stuff.
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I thought they shared banned ESNs between each other? I thought that is why most people either sell it here with a note of bad esn or ship it over across seas.
I purchased a used Verizon Galaxy Note II knowing it had a bad ESN - planning to use it as wifi only. One day decided to try and see if a AT&T gophone sim would work. Don't know about the plan you're addressing - but AT&T absolutely activated the gophone sim. What I think AT&T will not do is activate if the phone's IMEI shows its stolen - but the previous owner not paying his/her bill to Verizon didn't seem to be a problem. Just my personal experience - not a universal, guaranteed answer
It works for me. I installed CM11 on my note and it worked like a champ!
Here's my next question is I'm going at&t st with this Verizon note. Now when I flash clean ROM. Old ROM I like. Do I use at&t network or verizon. Either way I know I have to manually input apn settings.
Am I better off using at&t Roms?...
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Here's my next question is I'm going at&t st with this Verizon note. Now when I flash clean ROM. Old ROM I like. Do I use at&t network or verizon. Either way I know I have to manually input apn settings.
Am I better off using at&t Roms?...
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because its a verizon device use a verizon rom, dont use at&t rom it may brick your device.
I agree with Bonkurei. Stick with Verizon Roms. Do NOT try the at&t roms.Stick with Verizon roms and you will be fine.
I agree run custom roms with Verizon settings
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Better to buy I Verizon phone off the street to use with AT&T than an AT&T branded phone. Never know when you might wake up to "we're sorry, but this device has been blocked" lol nice insurance scams
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Shot answer yes it will work with no issues, as long as the custom rom allows you to edit apns you will be golden, to get rid of the pesky non verizon sim message, either freeze the Samsung setup wizard apk with titanium backup or delete it all together. I have my Verizon note 2 on ST. I've been running beans 22 and have ad no issues at all. Also when choosing your network choose at&t, Verizon's won't work
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Looks like you got an answer. However, carriers do share the ESN and IMEI numbers for devices and check for blacklisted devices. Prepaid plans may be a different matter, but I'd be willing to bet that they wouldn't activate it on any contract plans and you'll not get any kind of warranty on the device. So, if you break it, lose it, or brick it, you'll have to pay full price for the device. Probably would have been cheaper to pay your bill...
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Hi. I am doing some research for a friend, if he rooted he's note 3 for sprint, could it be used in Verizon or any other carriers..?!
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Hi. I am doing some research for a friend, if he rooted he's note 3 for sprint, could it be used in Verizon or any other carriers..?!
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If he got it internationally unlocked and followed a thread here he could use it for att and tmobile.... vzw won't let other carriers phones on their system just like sprint won't ... it can be flashed to cricket and a couple others but mostly I guess there is no way for him to get it unlocked because sprint has to do it and the phone has to be on a account in good standing etc
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I highly doubt it. The least fuss way is to buy a phone for the carrier you plan on using it for. If it is possible, you'll get better network performance if you buy a phone for the specific carrier you're planning on using. I've seen this same question with so many phones over the years, it isn't even funny. You're not going to easily try and save a few bucks by thinking you can buy a phone for a different carrier and be able to easily port it over. You'll end up wasting lots of money for futile hopes. People think everything is interchangeable, it isn't.