[Q] Are high temps in car dock normal? - AT&T HTC One (M7)

I have an upcoming coast-to-coast drive, and I was planning on using my HTC One in the car dock the whole trip as my primary GPS.
I got a nice universal-type car dock from iBolt, and the phone is in an Otter Box case.
I tested it on a shorter 3-4 hour trip, and I noticed the phone got very warm after a couple hours. And it stayed warm and the battery dropped very quick when I took it out of the charger. (down from 100% to 75% charge in 30 minutes).
Is there a problem with the charger or is this typical for car mode?

I did read that when I was researching temperature issues ,when my phone
Was running hot while I was steaming media.somone mentioned the car mode was making the phone really hot.
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Bandalo76 said:
I have an upcoming coast-to-coast drive, and I was planning on using my HTC One in the car dock the whole trip as my primary GPS.
I got a nice universal-type car dock from iBolt, and the phone is in an Otter Box case.
I tested it on a shorter 3-4 hour trip, and I noticed the phone got very warm after a couple hours. And it stayed warm and the battery dropped very quick when I took it out of the charger. (down from 100% to 75% charge in 30 minutes).
Is there a problem with the charger or is this typical for car mode?
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with any particular electronics/appliances heat is always your enemy ...it reduces the longevity of the battery (if the device has a built in battery), thereby reducing the overall life of the device ... elevated temperature is normal while charging the phone and using it for GPS, Media streaming etc, i.e. anything that requires the CPU to run close to its maximum clocking speed ...if the phone is hot and/or to the point where it starts effecting battery life immediately, and if you feel the hear throug the otterbox case, thats bad.... it is recommended usually to charge the phone without a case on to let the heat dissipate through the aluminum body....

rahtrip said:
with any particular electronics/appliances heat is always your enemy ...it reduces the longevity of the battery (if the device has a built in battery), thereby reducing the overall life of the device ... elevated temperature is normal while charging the phone and using it for GPS, Media streaming etc, i.e. anything that requires the CPU to run close to its maximum clocking speed ...if the phone is hot and/or to the point where it starts effecting battery life immediately, and if you feel the hear throug the otterbox case, thats bad.... it is recommended usually to charge the phone without a case on to let the heat dissipate through the aluminum body....
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I agree that the heat can be damaging, I'm just curious if this is typical for people who use the car docks for this phone. I haven't observed any heat issues during normal charging, and it only gets slightly warm during heavy use around the office and house.
Is the GPS and Google Maps really that intensive that it's forcing the CPU to full load all the time? I'd hate to damage my phone on this road trip. I would think my case would fall under "typical use" though, nothing extreme.

GPS is a real burner... If I am charging and using GPS, it does get quite hot. My old Atrix got so hot that the GPS starting malfunctioning after 3-4hours. (determined to be heat related after significant debugging)

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Battery Heat ???

anyone else noticed this thing heating up during long times of video playback, but especially while in a video call over qik?
i have a desktop widget app that has seen temps of 105f ???
johng75 said:
anyone else noticed this thing heating up during long times of video playback, but especially while in a video call over qik?
i have a desktop widget app that has seen temps of 105f ???
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It's probably reading residual heat from the dual core processor. I have heard of people reaching 115 degrees on their phones. The processor can handle it, but excessive heat over prolonged periods might deteriorate the battery quality quicker, that's all
johng75 said:
anyone else noticed this thing heating up during long times of video playback, but especially while in a video call over qik?
i have a desktop widget app that has seen temps of 105f ???
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when i had the epic 4g the whole battery would heat up and now with the atrix it only does it in one spot of the battery
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when i had the epic 4g the whole battery would heat up and now with the atrix it only does it in one spot of the battery
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Is it down at the bottom around where the capacitive buttons are in the back?
mine was reading 115F when I was using gps and other apps at the same time. It would not go over 115F and it was in direct light on the dash board. For some reason my phone since that day has been running cooler even when I try to push it and get it to that temp again it wont do it. The incipio feather case helps with holding the phone when it gets that hot lol
Its not the battery that is heating up. It stays cool its the bottom of the phone where I think the cpu and stuff is.
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mine was reading 115F when I was using gps and other apps at the same time. It would not go over 115F and it was in direct light on the dash board. For some reason my phone since that day has been running cooler even when I try to push it and get it to that temp again it wont do it. The incipio feather case helps with holding the phone when it gets that hot lol
Its not the battery that is heating up. It stays cool its the bottom of the phone where I think the cpu and stuff is.
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Yeah, that's pretty much it. The dual core is going to get hot sometimes and the battery temp sensor is going to catch some of that heat.
live4nyy said:
Is it down at the bottom around where the capacitive buttons are in the back?
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yes near right near the sim slot
brian2220 said:
yes near right near the sim slot
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Yeah, that's the processor. It's not the battery getting that hot.
I think I found a use for all the heat lol. I got one of those screen protectors where you have to use fluid to get them to stick. I think the brand is gadget guard. I hope the heat transfers to the screen. I've got a nice 25 min youtube clip playing with screen brightness at 100% and the charger plugged in I think I will run the mp3 player also for good measure see how hot I can get this bad boy.
Don't know if it is relevant but battery heat issue went away from i switched to a custom power plan in battery manager..the night mode was keeping sync alive all the time during day resulting in battery drain and heat.
with youtube going for 40 min straight the screen on full brightness the battery charger plugged in and win amp running its holding steady at 41C.
I decided to try and see how far I can push the multi task. So far wim amp is playing the gps latatuide thing is going youtube is playing and I'm sending and receiving texts at the same time the phone isn't slowing down one bit. I can only get the temp up to 42 right now.
Really guys? 115F is the best you can do?
When my Atrix was plugged into my car dock, running Car Dock, Navigation, and Slacker Radio, SetCPU was reading 62C (144F). 115F is nothin . I've been playing games on my phone and its reached over 55C (131F).
This is my second Atrix so it's not a faulty device. I have a SetCPU profile to underclock over 60C; I had originally set it at 55C but it would underclock too often while playing games and during car dock mode.
IMO, I think Motorola is smart enough to implement some form of heat protection into their phone once the phone reaches a certain temperature. They know it's a dual core phone and I'm sure the engineers expected a lot of heat.
42 degrees for me, really crazy. Do they have warning stickers for this in the US so that they dont get sued?
Kaaji1359 said:
Really guys? 115F is the best you can do?
When my Atrix was plugged into my car dock, running Car Dock, Navigation, and Slacker Radio, SetCPU was reading 62C (144F). 115F is nothin . I've been playing games on my phone and its reached over 55C (131F).
This is my second Atrix so it's not a faulty device. I have a SetCPU profile to underclock over 60C; I had originally set it at 55C but it would underclock too often while playing games and during car dock mode.
IMO, I think Motorola is smart enough to implement some form of heat protection into their phone once the phone reaches a certain temperature. They know it's a dual core phone and I'm sure the engineers expected a lot of heat.
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yea i have around the same temps as you. I have the body glove case on, so do you think that its worsening the overheating or dissipating the heat?
i cant really even have Wifi and battery charging at the same time. the phone gets so hot lol
I notice that when i change my battery heat temps are all over the place , 6 batteries and only 2 off them show a heat range and keep a heat range of 25 to 27 degrees ..just swap out one battery at 25 degrees and put the new one in booted and notice that it is at 37 degrees and holding under no stress . Here the funny thing at 25 the back and screen got very warm to the touch but at 37 the back and screen are cool to the touch
even in standby mode,my atrix's CPU temp is about 42-44 C
and the battery heat is about 35 C
it's kind of crazy because i didn't use any apps though..
my phone is just sit still at my desk
how to get rid of this crazy battery/CPU heat?
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When my Atrix was plugged into my car dock, running Car Dock, Navigation, and Slacker Radio, SetCPU was reading 62C (144F). 115F is nothin .
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I've seen this too. In the car dock with navigation and music I've seen it reach 139°F. It seems to always get hot in the car dock.

Lets try to narrow down the Overheat issue.

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From what I have gathered from those that have provided info.
Around 120*F is normal for heavy use, around 105-110* for medium use, 100-105* for light use. This is with cell data enabled, wifi lowers temps 5-10*, also temps are for extended use scenarios. (over 10-15 min)
Heavy use= 3D game or graphically intensive 2D game, streaming videos especially HD
Medium use= basic games web surfing sites with lots of images or some flash content
Light use= sending SMS, basic fooling with settings or other basic functions, streaming music with the screen off
I think we need to get a bit more scientific about testing this overheating issue out. I need help from a large group of people. I need those who think they have overheat issues and those who do not for the info to be useful.
First off... I believe these temps are just the battery, not the CPU. I think the CPU is running relatively cool as the rest of the phone does not heat up, or it seems what heat is felt is coming from the battery only.
This would explain why people claim that the extended battery does not have this issue. As batteries with higher mAh ratings are able to handle the higher power demands with less heat.
We need to do comparison tests using the same apps across tests and the same use times as well. Also no over or under-clocking and using the same CPU governor. (and between everyone participating where possible)
I have Minecraft and Sleepy Jack, they both produce similar temps after 15 minutes of play time. (around 117-120*F) I do not know if it gets any hotter with longer use because I rarely play longer than that at a time. I am at about the same temp after only 10 minutes so maybe that is the highest it gets.
I know for certain that enabling WiFi has a big impact on the temps. My fiance's phone would only get about 95*F, (according to the SetCPU widget) but when LTE is enabled it would get to 115*F. Mine hits 105* on WiFi.
I want to do at least two tests.
Lets use the following steps to test:
-For all testing the test time will be 15 minutes of play time.
-Lets all use Minecraft since there is a free version and I know the app causes the phone to work hard.
-No over or under-clocking
-On Demand governor
Test 1) Airplane mode enabled
Test 2) 3G enabled (not everyone lives in a LTE area, if you do, data from LTE enabled would be useful as well)
Now some optional tests. I did some rudimentary testing and there seemed to be an impact on temps.
Optional 3) Using interactive governor or Lag free governor
Optional 4) Use a different kernel... If you are on stock switch to ziggy's and vice versa. (this may be the most promising test as since switching to ziggy's I have had a few lockups where the old Android logo pops up on the screen and I need to do a battery pull to fix it. This happens to the fiance's device as well)
If you do these tests, please post the results, and what ROM and kernel you are using. I will keep track of the results and update as appropriate.
Lets see if we can find some consistent data and narrow this heat issue down.
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Running Ziggy's kernel I hit 108*F kept playing and shortly after the phone did the odd crash I mentioned.
Nice, had the same idea to do one of these over the weekend - you just beat me to it
I've done alot of research/ testing heat wise, and the pseudo-scientific conclusion that i've come to is that in a room temperature environment something like 75-85F idle & 110-115F netflix is normal for this gen of phones (Rezound, Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S II, etc) - Give or take another 5F if you're using 4G. Seems like some devices are luckier than others & stay slightly cooler, but i'd gauge that they aren't the typical use case. IMO, (along side battery) data is a huge reason we've seen some of the face melting temperatures people have been reporting.
One thing I think would really help this thread is to set an easy to follow format for posting results. For example, here's a few tests I've done:
### Phone Info ###
ROM - Stock
Kernal - Stock
CPU Speed - Default (1.5)
Battery Type - Standard
Case - Generic TPU
## Test 1 ##
Charging - No
Data - 4G (4 bars)
App - Field Runners
Test Duration - 15 min
Start battery temp - 85 F
End battery temp - 112 F
Total Battery Drain - 20%
## Test 2 ##
Charging - No
Data - 4G (4 bars)
App - YouTube
Test Duration - 20 min
Start battery temp - 85 F
End battery temp - 104 F
Total Battery Drain - 16%
## Test 3 ##
Charging - No
Data - 4G (4 bars)
App - Onlive
Test Duration - 30 min
Start battery temp - 85 F
End battery temp - 125 F
Total Battery Drain - 40%
Hope this helps, i'd really like to see people participate - this information will be helpful for pretty much everyone in the Android community with a current gen phone.
Stock rom
Extended battery
Charging - yes
App - shine runner
Duration - 20 min
Start temp - 96F
End temp - 115F
3g, 3bars
This extended battery will get just as hot as the stock, just takes a little longer.
Edit-not quite as hot as the stock, but pretty toasty.
if it's the battery, then isn't the only parameter we need to test is current draw from the battery? no matter what radios/apps are enabled/disabled. It's bottom line is, the more we're drawing off the battery the hotter it's getting? I'd have to bring a pro in here on how Li-ion works in this form factor and why it gets hot, or what corners the battery manufacturer cut to make it possible!
The only time my battery gets hot is when I am in a weak signal area and the phone is searching for the 3G-4G signal. During daily use in a good signal area it never heats up.
My phone (and wife's also) heats up most notably during charging, especially when the battery is around 99% and going 100%. Usually the temp goes to ~ 45C (115F). In some rare cases, it was too hot to touch (dunno the exact temp). But some other times it would stay cool at all time.
Wife's first phone went into bootloop and her current phone is a new replacement. I kind of believe the overheating was the main cause of the bootloop problem.
thatsricci said:
if it's the battery, then isn't the only parameter we need to test is current draw from the battery? no matter what radios/apps are enabled/disabled. It's bottom line is, the more we're drawing off the battery the hotter it's getting? I'd have to bring a pro in here on how Li-ion works in this form factor and why it gets hot, or what corners the battery manufacturer cut to make it possible!
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It's more than just the battery. Also: feel free to post a test - the more data we get from everyone, the better.
One important variable missing: ambient temp.
I was just playing words with friends for ten minutes:
Ambient temp: 67, Screen brightness: 50%,
4g: ON
wifi: OFF
my temp went to 105F, it's NEVER gone to 105F when playing before... and I play it every evening. It was hooked to the USB charger at the time, and when I felt it getting so hot, I looked at battery monitor and my net charge was negative, so it was using more than it was charging off the usb...
maybe something in some of those apps triggers something that causes the temp to rise? a loop? something?
thatsricci said:
I was just playing words with friends for ten minutes:
Ambient temp: 67, Screen brightness: 50%,
4g: ON
wifi: OFF
my temp went to 105F, it's NEVER gone to 105F when playing before... and I play it every evening. It was hooked to the USB charger at the time, and when I felt it getting so hot, I looked at battery monitor and my net charge was negative, so it was using more than it was charging off the usb...
maybe something in some of those apps triggers something that causes the temp to rise? a loop? something?
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I noticed any time I charge with USB and use my phone it gets hot
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One thing I think would really help this thread is to set an easy to follow format for posting results. For example said:
Good layout... and I think you are right about 115-120 degrees is normal for heavy use with apps that really stress the CPU or radio.
thatsricci said:
if it's the battery, then isn't the only parameter we need to test is current draw from the battery? no matter what radios/apps are enabled/disabled. It's bottom line is, the more we're drawing off the battery the hotter it's getting? I'd have to bring a pro in here on how Li-ion works in this form factor and why it gets hot, or what corners the battery manufacturer cut to make it possible!
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A pro huh... good thing I'm here.
Ok I'm not a "pro" as it were, but i know a thing or too.
Its not going to be simply the battery, but I think it is a big culprit, and most of these devices only provide battery temps, not CPU or internal temps, this limits our overall knowledge of what is going on internally. The battery getting hot causes the device to heat up as well so a bad battery that overheats can cause the device to overheat.
All batteries will convert some energy draw into heat. This is caused by the internal resistance of the battery. Li Ion batteries have fairly low internal resistance compared to other types, but battery design an affect power output handling. Pulling more power than the battery can handle or near its limit and you get more heat than normal. The heat to output ratio stops being proportional and becomes exponential. So that means the real kicker is the actual amp draw on the battery. How much power the battery can handle is related to both the capacity of the battery and the manufacturing process/ design of the battery construction. I bet the new devices are straining the battery more than the current design can handle. There are better battery manufacture processes for better power handling, but that increases the cost of the battery.
(BTW battery is a misnomer for these, they are cells, specifically one 3.7/8V Li Ion cell. The difference is that batteries are made up of 2 or more cells. This goes for AAA, AA, C and D cells as well. Car batteries for example are made of six 2V cells, 6V lantern batteries are made of four 1.5V cells and 9V batteries are six 1.5V cells)
This is one reason I want to do a test with airplane mode on. This helps lower the power draw and allows us to get a better overall device temp, this helps us know if there is an issue with the CPU getting excessively hot vs just the battery being stressed to hard.
Kane5581 said:
One important variable missing: ambient temp.
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I assumed most testing would be done at room temps of 68-72 degrees. If anyone tests in temps that are much higher or lower, then that would throw off the measurements.
I switched back to stock kernel, going to check for lockups and issues like I had before.
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nev310 said:
I noticed any time I charge with USB and use my phone it gets hot
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Charging always causes heat. You are forcing power into a small space.
Charging via USB should only get the battery a little warm to the touch. 95* or so at most.
Charging with AC should get it a few degrees higher. I would think over 100* is odd.
as you reach 100% is when the heat should spike to the max temps I mentioned, before that it should just be warmish.
I will check mine to see how it behaves, but all my R/C batteries behave that way.
Replacing the kernel with stock lowered my temps quite a bit. I was around 110-115 degrees after 30 minutes or so. This was with LTE enabled.
Nobody else have anything?
noticed most of my heating issues when 4g was on (even when idling on 4g). Leaving in wifi and 3g keep the stock battery cool...on the extended I never really notice the heat, even on 4g.
I realize that you're trying to keep things as similar as possible, but I had an issue today listening to the broncos game in the NFL app while charging. It got so hot it boot looped. After getting it back up and running I started monitoring battery temps and even with the screen off and just listening to the game, it would get extremely hot. Btw, I have 4G 4 bars. A couple of times I ran to the freezer and put the phone in it for a couple minutes to cool it down as the temps got above 117°F.
From here, I thought it might be the CPU, so I set the maximum setting to 384 in antutu and then let the phone sit there with the screen off just as before listening to the game and still charging. Same thing, phone got extremely hot, 115°F. Although, what I find strange, is I can watch Netflix while charging and even tho it gets warm, it never gets above 115°F and never goes into the boot loop issue. Same exact location, charger, ambient temps, signal, the works. So I'm wondering if an app is just poorly written and causes some sort of excessive use of the radio.
On another note, I had a rezound battery in my thunderbolt and never had any issues what so ever with heat.
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What temperatures are you people expecting to see just out of curiousity? I mean if we run 3d intensive apps, videos, extreme web browsing we're going to see high temps since we are stressing the devices. We do have to remember these are compact devices and they are limited to what type of heatsinks/cooling they can add. From the multiple posts form this thread and others like it, we can see the majority of our devices run at same temps while under load. If it hasn't already been done maybe we should contact HTC and see what they say? Just a thought.
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What temperatures are you people expecting to see just out of curiousity? I mean if we run 3d intensive apps, videos, extreme web browsing we're going to see high temps since we are stressing the devices. We do have to remember these are compact devices and they are limited to what type of heatsinks/cooling they can add. From the multiple posts form this thread and others like it, we can see the majority of our devices run at same temps while under load. If it hasn't already been done maybe we should contact HTC and see what they say? Just a thought.
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I am trying to find the norms and what is too hot.
I am thinking 115 is normal for heavy use. But we need to be sure, if someone says they only hit 100 under similar conditions as someone that hits 120. it may be that 120 is a problem temp and that 100 is normal. It may also be that the person only hitting 100 is just lucky.
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I realize that you're trying to keep things as similar as possible, but I had an issue today listening to the broncos game in the NFL app while charging. It got so hot it boot looped. After getting it back up and running I started monitoring battery temps and even with the screen off and just listening to the game, it would get extremely hot. Btw, I have 4G 4 bars. A couple of times I ran to the freezer and put the phone in it for a couple minutes to cool it down as the temps got above 117°F.
From here, I thought it might be the CPU, so I set the maximum setting to 384 in antutu and then let the phone sit there with the screen off just as before listening to the game and still charging. Same thing, phone got extremely hot, 115°F. Although, what I find strange, is I can watch Netflix while charging and even tho it gets warm, it never gets above 115°F and never goes into the boot loop issue. Same exact location, charger, ambient temps, signal, the works. So I'm wondering if an app is just poorly written and causes some sort of excessive use of the radio.
On another note, I had a rezound battery in my thunderbolt and never had any issues what so ever with heat.
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Go play an app that is heavy in 3D, lets see what temps you get. If you go much over 120 it may be an issue.
Running Gun Bros for about 20 minutes gets me up to about 105°F. Right now after the phone had been sitting for 5ish hours doing nothing its at 98°F.
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I think it is Ziggy's kernel I have never got 125f when tethering for 30min or playing GTA for 30 min. I am going to try another kernel.

[Q] Is the phone suppose to get this hot?

I'm uploading a video to my Facebook account and the back of the phone up by the camera is burning hot. It's like putting a wet rag in a microwave for 1 min on high. But when the video stops uploading, you can actually feel it cooling down. Has anyone felt this before? Can my phone be defective? Can someone try uploading a 2 min video to Facebook and let me know if their phone gets super hot?
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Mine gets pretty hot when I use heavy 3g
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I've noticed some heat issues as well....currently rooted and under locked to 1ghz, haven't noticed it since
My daily commute to work is about 33 miles. On the drive to work, I usually have the phone connected to a 12V USB charger (not sure of the charging rate, but I'll guess 0.5 A) while talking on the phone using the bluetooth hands free that is built into the car while using Waze (data and GPS) for traffic info. Thats a LOT to be going on when the phone is charging, using both data and voice, GPS, and bluetooth. It gets VERY HOT. Sometimes I'll pick it up and hold it in front of the air conditioning vent to cool it down. I've actually heard random noises over the bluetooth while on a call that is very loud and I'm wondering if heat is causing the noise to occur. Seems to be normal though, my last phone (HTC Diamond, Windows Mobile 6.5) would get really hot with heavy data usage while charging. Never really seemed to be a problem. I was hoping to find a car dock that clips onto the air conditioning vent so the phone can constantly be cooled while in use.
My phone also gets very hot. It only happens if I'm in a very weak signal area and.I'm either doing heavy gaming or heavy web browsing. Both of which take a pretty heavy toll on battery life. There have been times though were I will just stop whatever I'm doing and just let it cool off for a bit though...doesnt take to long for it to cool down.
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Tested it again uploading and I noticed the heat starts on the left side of the camera if you are looking at the back of the phone.
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Yep same side for me to
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My daily commute to work is about 33 miles. On the drive to work, I usually have the phone connected to a 12V USB charger (not sure of the charging rate, but I'll guess 0.5 A) while talking on the phone using the bluetooth hands free that is built into the car while using Waze (data and GPS) for traffic info. Thats a LOT to be going on when the phone is charging, using both data and voice, GPS, and bluetooth. It gets VERY HOT. Sometimes I'll pick it up and hold it in front of the air conditioning vent to cool it down. I've actually heard random noises over the bluetooth while on a call that is very loud and I'm wondering if heat is causing the noise to occur. Seems to be normal though, my last phone (HTC Diamond, Windows Mobile 6.5) would get really hot with heavy data usage while charging. Never really seemed to be a problem. I was hoping to find a car dock that clips onto the air conditioning vent so the phone can constantly be cooled while in use.
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I was using my phone as a GPS and an audio source during a 3 hour trip to Rehoboth beach and had it attached to a 450 mA car charger. First of all, the charger was not powerful enough to actually charge the phone as I would actually lose juice during the trip and the phone would actually tell me it used more energy than it replenished. Second, I'm guessing because there was not enough current to charge and bypass the battery, there was a lot of current flow through the battery. Combining with the heat of the radio trying to grab weak 3G signals in the rural areas of the trip, my evo started flashing an alternating green and red. Awkwardly, the user manual has no mention of this notification state, but I assumed it was an overheated battery (the phone was getting scarily hot). As soon as I unplugged the charger, the notification light would return to normal and the phone would cool down.
Anyway, point of the story is, the phone will at least warn you when the battery is getting too hot. I wouldn't worry too much about the radios, but yes my antennas do get pretty hot especially in poor reception areas.
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My daily commute to work is about 33 miles. On the drive to work, I usually have the phone connected to a 12V USB charger (not sure of the charging rate, but I'll guess 0.5 A) while talking on the phone using the bluetooth hands free that is built into the car while using Waze (data and GPS) for traffic info. Thats a LOT to be going on when the phone is charging, using both data and voice, GPS, and bluetooth. It gets VERY HOT. Sometimes I'll pick it up and hold it in front of the air conditioning vent to cool it down. I've actually heard random noises over the bluetooth while on a call that is very loud and I'm wondering if heat is causing the noise to occur. Seems to be normal though, my last phone (HTC Diamond, Windows Mobile 6.5) would get really hot with heavy data usage while charging. Never really seemed to be a problem. I was hoping to find a car dock that clips onto the air conditioning vent so the phone can constantly be cooled while in use.
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I use Waze as well every morning and afternoon for a 35 mile each way commute and it does get hot just using that app. Luckily I use the Bracketron - Grip-iT Mobile Device Holder from Best Buy, on sale for $13.99 right now. It just clips on the A/C vents and when the A/C is on, the phone is never hot while using the app. The only bad thing is the placement of the USB port on the phone but I can still plug in using this holder. Hope it helps!
this CPU is clocked the same as CPU's in some old PCs and some current laptops and it has no cooling, plus the heat from the radios etc, pretty sure the only way to offset the heat is to under clock it or don't buy a super phone. all my smartphones back to the mogul have all gotten hot, actually i remember my old i870 flip phone got hot when in long phone calls
My evo also gets very hot... So hot it starts to burn my leg when it's in my pocket at work. Also the screen has started to separate from the body, im assuming the glue is melting because when you press the screen on the left side you can hear it click back into place. Can I get this replaced under the warranty?
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I just picked up the car dock over the weekend and it gets even hotter (sitting in the sun and having less air circulation behind the phone). When I parked to get out of the car it almost hurts to touch the phone its so hot. I ordered a new mount for the car dock that will put it right in front of an air conditioning vent so hopefully that will help to cool it down. I've also read that if you have an under powered 12V charger it will cause it to get hot. Going to try a different charger with the dock and see what happens.

Phone getring hott

Just noticing that my phone is getting hot and never happen before
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mine gets hot all the time. its thin and its got alot of heat producing power under the hood. seems to heat up most when using cell network mostly. Though i can play a 2 hour long movie off storage with airplane mode on and it stays decently warm.
id say its normal operating temp if the temperature is around 90F (32C)
only time to get concerned is if the battery gets near 150F (65C)
but normally the phone will alert you when it gets anywhere near that hot.
can check out This App that ive used a for a while it lets you put a thingy in your status bar drop down and will tell you the battery percentage if its charging its temperature and will also let you make custom notifications. for example itl notify you if the battery exceed a temperature youve set. or if the batteries gotten low etc etc
I think you need to be more clear. There is a difference between the phone "feeling hot" and "being hot" The metal exterior is more efficient transferring heat to your hand, due to physics. I have found that the phone itself runs just as cool or cooler than the S4, and that's what important. Are you monitoring the internal temp and are concerned or are you just referring to how warm it feels?
Normal. Even my body heat in my pocket causes the phone to warm up.

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Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the Essential Phone stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.
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Have not experienced any heating at all
I am experiencing heating issues, I would like to know if it's just me and hopefully I just have a defective device. The battery Temp stays around 49 Celsius
My phone does get a little hot... Altho I was jus using Google duo which uses a lot of resources I believe... Not 100% if that's the case tho, and it cooled rather quickly after I ended the phone call...
I'm not experiencing any heat on the phone at all.
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It gets pretty warm when I quick charge and use the phone at the same time but I think that goes for most of the phones out there
It won't get very hot. If the internal temp gets to 44C (112F) it aggressively throttles the big cluster down to about 1.2GHz, which is about half the maximum speed.
At 41C its down to 1.8GHz
At 40C its down to 2.1GHz
So in the span from 39C-43C (102F-109F) The performance drops by 50%.
A 4 degree C temperature span. This is the most aggressive throttling I've seen in any device I've owned.
I noticed this morning during charging the phone is getting too hot to touch around the upper right corner where the 360 camera attaches (which I don't have.)
no heat issues here yet.
Ya I am having some issues when I charge my phone and watch YouTube at the same time
Ksehwail said:
I am experiencing heating issues, I would like to know if it's just me and hopefully I just have a defective device. The battery Temp stays around 49 Celsius
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Mine is hot at times as well. How can you tell the temperature of the battery?
Ellises said:
I noticed this morning during charging the phone is getting too hot to touch around the upper right corner where the 360 camera attaches (which I don't have.)
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Same here I feel it at times of heavy usage and charging
Accu battery says I'm around 107.4 F when I'm charging and using heavy. But that's the hottest it gets. I generally sit it next to a fan whenever I experience this. But it does nothing for internal temp which stays at 107.4 but the outside is cool to touch. And now that I think about it I may be wing about the temp. Not sure if it was 104.7 or 107.4. But that's besides the point.
Yes this phone does get hot at time of heavy gaming/ usage/ etc
maltydog said:
Mine is hot at times as well. How can you tell the temperature of the battery?
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I use Ampere, and put a 1x1 widget on the home screen. The widget shows the mA (+/-), battery status (charging/discharging), battery %, and battery temp.
No heat issues, not even playing Pokemon Go.
I ran my phone on battery with Waze on for 2 hours and the display turned off, made a few long phone calls along the way, the phone was very cool IMHO based on other phones I had that I would run Waze on. Only used about 25% of the battery in this 2 hour timeframe with Waze, phone calls, emails coming in and news alerts popping up occasionally. Then connect the phone to a cheap USB-C phone charger that is probably low current and drove another hour and the phone was still cool.
I have not checked temperatures, but from the handling of the phone, it clearly did not feel warm.
So far, so good IMHO.
heating issues with essential phone
having heat issues when I'm using as a hotspot for video. nothing of concern.
Never had any heat issues on 7.1 or 8.1
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