Hey, folks. I'm new, obviously.
I recently rooted and s-offed my LTEVO. I installed TWRP 2.6.3.0 and CM10.1 Stable (I also installed the exFAT fix). The problem I'm having and that I'm reading a lot of people are having is with MMS. I'm not sure if group messaging falls into MMS or SMS but I can neither send/receive picture or media messages, nor can I SEND group messages (although I can receive them). I'm not sure what's going on behind the scenes, whether there's a fix that I just haven't found (I have done extensive searching/trolling before making a profile to ask this question) or if this is a common issue which may have been resolved in newer builds. Essentially, I was wicked pumped when I found out that I could receive group messages from people because the stock, unrooted LTEVO would receive "multimedia messages" from everyone participating in the conversation individually instead of all within the same thread or whatever you wanna call it. But, as I've come to find out, I can't actually participate in these group sessions, I can only SEE them organized within one text thread (which is still better than stock, but disappointing that it doesn't take one seemingly essential step further). Also, I thought it was just crappy Sprint service, but it seems that I can't send or receive multimedia messages (that aren't in text form). I was excited, again, to see that the preview of the image I was going to send was minimally compressed, if at all. I was sick of sending people screenshots of blurry, illegible caca, but again this feature falls short and now I can't actually send or receive any form of media.
Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated. I can't seem to figure out what I'm doing wrong, or maybe what I'm just NOT doing right. At any rate, if anyone could shed some light on my unfortunate situation that'd be stellar. I'm forced to use Voxer for the time being.
I'm having the same problem. Any assitance is welcome!
I can't say I completely understand your issue but will give an answer with my best guesstimate as to a fix.
You are trying to group messages with others that have iPhones. iPhones natively send texts as mms while android natively sends as sms. Hence your problem (I think).
You need to use a third party messaging app. There are a couple that handle this but I use Go Sms Pro. It allows you to send and receive texts all while staying in the group without splitting the messages.
Once you install go sms pro you need to change a few settings in the app (you can find the correct group settings on Google easily) and disable the notifications from the stock messaging app (so you don't get multiple notifications for one text).
Hope this is what you were asking about as it is an issue for a lot of people.
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Does anybody know how to turn off SMS threated mode (conversation) and make it normal like in outlook (just classic view - sorting according to date)? I had android 1.5, than tried 2.2 and 2.1 but i didnt found any option for this. Thanks for help...
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Why would you want to go back to the old way? It was clearly worse. One of the greatest change I had from upgrading to a Hero was the conversation mode - just incredible. Why would you want to go back to a situation where you can't see the message you're replying to?
On topic - have you tried Handcent SMS and checked the options? That app is amazing.
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Why would you want to go back to the old way? It was clearly worse. One of the greatest change I had from upgrading to a Hero was the conversation mode - just incredible. Why would you want to go back to a situation where you can't see the message you're replying to?
On topic - have you tried Handcent SMS and checked the options? That app is amazing.
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thats because its sorted according to date like in Outlook. icould never use outlook with conversation mode in my work becouse it seems to me very chaotic. You only see name and number of sms, so you have to click on contact. Dont know why developers dont give us at least possibility to turn it off. i think its just a matter of small tweak or st....
The individual threads are still sorted by date though. So you still know the latest texts over the older ones, i.e. higher the contacts name the newer the text. You don't have to even look at the older texts as they're hidden in the conversation lists but available if necessary.
As I said Handcent is the most likely program to have this feature.
It's unlikely to be a "small" tweak as it requires splitting your conversations into Inbox & Outbox as well as then having multiple messages for each contact. This is a complete overhaul of the way in which it currently sorts, sends and receives messages.
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The individual threads are still sorted by date though. So you still know the latest texts over the older ones, i.e. higher the contacts name the newer the text. You don't have to even look at the older texts as they're hidden in the conversation lists but available if necessary.
As I said Handcent is the most likely program to have this feature.
It's unlikely to be a "small" tweak as it requires splitting your conversations into Inbox & Outbox as well as then having multiple messages for each contact. This is a complete overhaul of the way in which it currently sorts, sends and receives messages.
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i dont know if you have experince with windows mobile but for disabling sms conversation i need only 50kb tweak....
I have searched many forums and the market to no avail so I was hoping someone here could help.
Is there any way we, android users, can get a function similar to iOS4 users with their "group mms" option. To those of you not familiar, its basically a chat room like feature that uses your text messages. For example, if I were to create a new text on the iphone, I could add more people to it. Once it's sent out, if anyone replies, that reply will go to all of those in the group and so forth. In essence, a chat room is created where everyone receives a copy of everyone else's text.
At any rate, a few of my friends have iphones and I was hoping to be able to communicate with them in such a manner but neither the stock messaging application or handcent has this function. The few options that might work would involve having all of my friends download some new app along with myself and even that doesn't work all the time.
ANY help would be much appreciated.
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This post was originally in a phone specific forum but I feel that it needs more exposure since it is a pretty significant issue for android. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774990
Basically it comes down to not being able to be part of a group MMS if you are not the sender.
iOS attaches all users in a group message to the header of an MMS message, and when this message is received on an android device the receiver can only see the sender, not the other people in the conversation. So, when the android user tries to reply to this message it only gets sent to the originator of the group message instead of all of the users in the group.
Currently, there is an application that handles this functionality and it is the Verzion Messages application. However, this application is out-dated and is missing other messaging features.
AT&T also has an application that addresses this issue, however, not many people have had success with it. At least for me, using my Galaxy Nexus on AT&T (4.0.2), the application opens and only shows a blank screen.
Can we get a developer to modify a current texting application, or create a new one that handles group MMS that recognizes all users of the group and will send a reply to everyone, not just the originator?
NOTE: Some other 3rd party texting applications allow group texting, but will only work if you are the originator.
How many other people have run into this issue?
I have run into the exact same issue. I have spent hours researching various workarounds, but a lot of people, forum topics, and companies think this issue isn't an issue at all. Handcent, Chomp, and Go SMS all say they have "group" messaging, but what they describe is more like a batch send out, not a threaded sms like the iphone and even now Verizon phones through the Verizon Messages Application.
I know there is an open ticket with google that is mentioned in the forum you linked to. I'm a new user so I can't link to it, but it is mentioned and linked to in post #92 on that forum you linked.
Hopefully someone or one of the bigger companies will get a handle on this.
I also would like to see this addressed. With many friends/family with iPhones it is crippling my texting abilities when I get so many group sms chats. Basically from an OS perspective it is making users of Android phones appear inferior to iPhone users.
I was looking into this today after becoming annoyed that i couldn't join a group mms thread w/ some iOS friends. It seems Verizon's VZMessages app works with the threaded group mms's. I did some tests w/ both iphone and android friends and it seems to work the same as for iphones. Since it's a vzw app, i have no idea what usability is for other carriers, and i've had some issues on my rooted dinc (display artifacts). Also, the design is terrible and looks like their target user is about 5 years old w/ all the bright primary colors and bubbly icons.
try it out and let me know how it works for you guys.
since i'm a new user, i can't post the market link to it, but you can find it in the google play app market.
Not sure if you guys saw this yet, but in the development section trikotret updated the handcent app to handle the iphone like group texts. I just installed it to try it out. I can't post links yet either but it the thread title is "Handscent Android group chat like iPhone"
Here is the flow on how to get there:
Android Development and Hacking | Android Software Development |Handscent Android group chat like iPhone
same issue
we had a text clan, or a group of people in a texting community, kinda popular here in the philippines. i've been looking for an app like those but nothing suits what we need. i tried groupme, but it crashes and needed to be online, also a force close issue in handcent which claims to have this feature. we used to do a traditional GMs or Group Messages in a send to many or batch mode only to send all GMs (equivalent to tweets in online world) to all our members. but as an android user i want to take advantage of it. here's the thing to address:
1. an app for sms/mms like gosms or equivalent.
2. this app can have a unified inbox. something like ChatOn or Socialhub of samsung but still integrated offline sms/text to local contacts.
2. options to offline only or if online.
3. group local/offline chat (threaded style, not just a batch send
4. whenever someone replied that is included in the group, it is in the same thread. or for short, sms with 2 or more person in a single thread locally.
5. even non android or typical mobile phone can receive it as a text message. so even nokia 5110 user can reply, ofcourse he will only receive what is sent to him. not always the entire thread content.
got my point?
by the way, sorry for my english.
Verizon Messaging works for me
GoSMSpro has a setting for this. Under send settings enable MMS grop chat.
handcent works ok for this but i'm in disbelief that it hasn't been addressed by google yet. did apple patent this feature or something?
i encourage everyone to star the issue at google's android project page:
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...rs&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
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This post was originally in a phone specific forum but I feel that it needs more exposure since it is a pretty significant issue for android. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774990
Basically it comes down to not being able to be part of a group MMS if you are not the sender.
iOS attaches all users in a group message to the header of an MMS message, and when this message is received on an android device the receiver can only see the sender, not the other people in the conversation. So, when the android user tries to reply to this message it only gets sent to the originator of the group message instead of all of the users in the group.
Currently, there is an application that handles this functionality and it is the Verzion Messages application. However, this application is out-dated and is missing other messaging features.
AT&T also has an application that addresses this issue, however, not many people have had success with it. At least for me, using my Galaxy Nexus on AT&T (4.0.2), the application opens and only shows a blank screen.
Can we get a developer to modify a current texting application, or create a new one that handles group MMS that recognizes all users of the group and will send a reply to everyone, not just the originator?
NOTE: Some other 3rd party texting applications allow group texting, but will only work if you are the originator.
How many other people have run into this issue?
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This has been addressed. This function is now standard in Jelly Bean 4.2 see link: http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon-galaxy-nexus-rooting-roms-hacks/207431-group-text-messaging-jb-achieved.html
Does anyone know how to change the SMS contact limit with AT&T. I created a few groups of friends and family to send a quick message out to. Groups are limited to twenty which would work for some groups just fine but when I send an SMS text out, I get an error message saying your carrier limits sms texts to 10 contacts at one time.
This has got to be a setting somewhere since I was able to do this all day long on my WM6.5 device. I even had a group of nearly 100 and had no trouble. Network is network so my thinking is this is a setting somewhere.
Ideas?
Got a lot of views on this but no one has been able to add anything. Should this get moved to WP General or WP Q & A?
Are you sure it's just with ATT and not an O/S limit? i think it's so you don't spam.
I have got to think that any carrier can tell if someone is spamming versus communicating with a group of people. In my case it was for someone that ended up in the hospital.
Do you have any idea how many calls and separate texts you'd have to send or make if you didn't have somethingng like this set up? Not asking a dumb question but more like an obvious one.
I am one of the few I bet that doesn't have unlimited text's and I would be willing to pay for my overage if that happens for the comfort of texting to a group that needs this communication.
Let's face it, someone can create an app to loop through a distribution list and fire off a text msg and loop to the next contact in the list and fire it again. Not looking for performance but convenience.
At some point I need to stop comparing WP to WM6.5 and just get over it.
I'm replying to an old thread ; hoping this generates a fresh look at an old problem:
I have an unlocked AT&T-branded Samsung GS4 (SGH-i337) operating on the Cricket network. I created a new contacts group "Buddies" consisting of 15 people in my Contacts. However, when I try to send an SMS text to this Buddies group, the stock Messaging app enforces a limit whereby I'm allowed to select and send the SMS to a max of 10 people from my Buddies group. This 10-person limit has been around for several years, so I'm wondering if anyone has found a simple/easy way to remove or adjust this 10-person group sms limit?
Interestingly, I also have an unlocked Verizon-branded GS4 (SCH-i545), and its stock Messaging app allows me to send an SMS to as many as 20 people from an established Group of contacts.
As a partial solution to the 10-person limit on my ATT GS4, is it technically feasible that I could simply copy/extract the Verizon Messaging app, then import and use that Verizon Messaging .apk on my ATT GS4 in order to increase the person limit to 20? Sounds simple, which probably means it's too easy to be true.
I love this phone, been on android since the olden days of android 1.0, but I;m having a severely annoying problem with my group messaging app. I can receive and view pictures and texts from my friends perfectly fnie in the group thread, one of which has a Sprint GS4, but when i go to respond, it sends them out as if I had the "individual messages" tab selected in the thread. I've made sure 100 times that I have the settings correct, that I have the "group message" tab selected when I send the text. Everything looks like it should be in working order.
Phone is basic, unrooted, regular messaging app in use at all times, it still doesn't seem to work.
has anyone else ran into this problem (or more specifically its solution)??? My friends and I use group messaging all the time for plans and sports, meetup spots etc... And i would really like to be able to contribute without sending out 5 or 6 separate texts.
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I love this phone, been on android since the olden days of android 1.0, but I;m having a severely annoying problem with my group messaging app. I can receive and view pictures and texts from my friends perfectly fnie in the group thread, one of which has a Sprint GS4, but when i go to respond, it sends them out as if I had the "individual messages" tab selected in the thread. I've made sure 100 times that I have the settings correct, that I have the "group message" tab selected when I send the text. Everything looks like it should be in working order.
Phone is basic, unrooted, regular messaging app in use at all times, it still doesn't seem to work.
has anyone else ran into this problem (or more specifically its solution)??? My friends and I use group messaging all the time for plans and sports, meetup spots etc... And i would really like to be able to contribute without sending out 5 or 6 separate texts.
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i have the same problem
anyone solution ??
Bump, still hunting for an answer other than use use a different messaging app. I'm not a fan of GO SMS and I am having to use the Verizon Messages app for the time being, which is poorly built but works with group messages
Bump because I'm STILL hunting for a solution to this. The app Textra was working for a few days but it suddenly stopped.
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Bump because I'm STILL hunting for a solution to this. The app Textra was working for a few days but it suddenly stopped.
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I just got my S4 and found out my messaging was doing this as well! I've tried Textra and that did not help for me. Is there any fix for this? Are there any ROM's that fix this issue?
My girlfriend has a Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III and her of friends have iPhones. They are all in a group chat together and the problem is, when my girlfriend receives messages as part of the group chat, she has to actually download them as if they were picture messages. That obviously uses up a lot of data and it gets very frustrating after a while. So how can she get her phone to receive messages normally just like every other recipient in the group chat does, so that she doesn't have to download all of them which not only is very tedious, but highly data-consuming.
Group messages are always sent via MMS - they're the same type of message as picture messages. They shouldn't use very much of anything if your carrier even counts MMS as data (I'm honestly not sure if they typically do or not), though, seeing as they're just text. Unfortunately, as far as I'm aware, it's possible the only work-around would be to automatically retrieve MMS (in the settings for the stock Messaging app) or find another application in the Play Store.