OK bare with me here,
When you pull up recent apps (holding down the home button) long press the app you want and move it to the top window. Then do the same with the app you want on the bottom.
It would be so much more convenient rather than the current method of holding down the back button. Then scrolling apps and setting them, etc.
I don't know if its possible but I thought I would share my idea and maybe get some of these great debs something to mess around with!
What do you guys think?
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I gotta say i dig it. I am currently not a multiwindow user at all because of its implementation is "too many steps" at the moment.
wow yea that's a great way to implement mw, makes it so much faster to use.
Only issue is if you try to swipe left or right to close apps, you might enable this mode by accident. I think it's a great idea tho, if a dev can whip that up somehow it would be neat
oh and we need mwc that was on the Note II, make every app available in mw
Using the module "mw apps manager" in xposed installer, I have access to all the apps in multi window. I just hate all the steps currently to get what I want.
BTW, this note has so much potential.
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Samzebian said:
wow yea that's a great way to implement mw, makes it so much faster to use.
Only issue is if you try to swipe left or right to close apps, you might enable this mode by accident. I think it's a great idea tho, if a dev can whip that up somehow it would be neat
oh and we need mwc that was on the Note II, make every app available in mw
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It's available and working (assuming you've rooted, of course, and requires Xposed Framework to be installed): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bjbinc.mwmphone&hl=en
mynameismolotov said:
It's available and working (assuming you've rooted, of course, and requires Xposed Framework to be installed): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bjbinc.mwmphone&hl=en
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See I didnt even see that.
I still havent rooted yet, waiting out for unlocked bootloader and roms
Samzebian said:
See I didnt even see that.
I still havent rooted yet, waiting out for unlocked bootloader and roms
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Why wait? Root is fun! Plus, with Xposed you don't even need ROMs to do most things. It's more work / trial and error, but you can change so much with the various modules. Go on, look down at your phone. Look at him, sitting there, silently begging to be rooted. To have his full power unleashed. Make your phone happy. Root the **** out of the little guy.
mynameismolotov said:
Why wait? Root is fun! Plus, with Xposed you don't even need ROMs to do most things. It's more work / trial and error, but you can change so much with the various modules. Go on, look down at your phone. Look at him, sitting there, silently begging to be rooted. To have his full power unleashed. Make your phone happy. Root the **** out of the little guy.
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Haha well I've gotta exchange this one, . He's been bad on signal and he's (gasps) CHINESE!
I want a Korean one lol
This is great for convenience, but what about discoverability? There's no way you'd ever know this was there unless you read about it. That's fine for us power users, but for a regular user I think Samsung's solution might work better.
I'm not a developer by any means, I'm just wondering how hard this would be.
Long pressing the app thumbnail in recents gives you a context pop-up menu with two options. 'App info' and 'remove from list'.
It would be awesome to add just two more contexts to that menu. 'Add to top multiview window' and 'add to bottom multiview window' or something along those lines.
I would be willing to pay for someone to make this happen!
Multiwindow has been out since roughly the launch of the s3, so about 2 years... Its time to tweak it for convenience.
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The funny thing is I was thinking about that same method for multi-window last week. That would be a much more convenient method or addition for those who want to use both or keep the current method.
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Why do stock apps launch at boot? Like accuweather and yahoo?
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Nobody? Find it stupid that a lot of apps launch and take up ram even though they are never used.
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It's how samsung designed it and if it bugs you just root the phone and freeze the apps with titanium backup
borchgrevink said:
Nobody? Find it stupid that a lot of apps launch and take up ram even though they are never used.
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this is just how android works. it loads up many apps on boot, and in the background even when you didnt not open them, so that it is faster the next time you need to use said apps. some people hate it, but the bottom line is there's nothing you can do about it except remove those apps from your phone. its just how android is built.
You have problems with RAM ? I use like 10% most of the time.
Free RAM is wasted resource. Stop thinking of things in terms of how Windows work with it crappy resource management system previous to Windows 7.
Well, if the RAM used for these apps could have been used to store apps that I really USE instead of apps I don't us, the useful apps could have been started quicker... (and apps I have used recently would not have been kicked out of memory so fast.
do not worry about that.
just uninstall the apps you never use.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again they need to make the system *really* clever by having it learn what apps you use the most and load the relevant processes rather than stuff which is unlikely to get used.
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snudel said:
do not worry about that.
just uninstall the apps you never use.
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But I am not eager to root...
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borchgrevink said:
But I am not eager to root...
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Then you will have to live with it
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borchgrevink said:
Why do stock apps launch at boot? Like accuweather and yahoo?
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Captain Obvious speaking here , forgive me: If you have the weather widget on screen , or those live wallpapers that link with weather, your accuweather process needs to run.
And any app that has notification mode (like yahoo) will start up on boot, check what it is supposed to do ("are my notifications on or off?") and then recede to background if there is nothing to do or if the notifications are disabled.
If after boot you press and hold the home button, tap "task manager" then switch to the "ram" tab - does it show that you are using all 800 or so MB of memory with all those background apps? Probably not.
what annoys me is that at bootup it loads up apps i use once a week or so and makes it take ages before the phone is usable. fine, keep it in memory once i've used it but don't load everything at bootup ffs
we really need a msconfig type thing to stop this.
tommo123 said:
what annoys me is that at bootup it loads up apps i use once a week or so and makes it take ages before the phone is usable. fine, keep it in memory once i've used it but don't load everything at bootup ffs
we really need a msconfig type thing to stop this.
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this sounds like its your first android phone. you arent the first person to notice this and be unhappy about it. this topic has been beaten to death in the android world. there are utilities you can do to remove broadcast receivers upon startup etc as well as tweak the internal memory algorithm numbers to be more aggressive. but in the end you are going against the OS. its best to remove any app you dont use and dont want starting up like that. and if you need root for that, then this just goes to show why so many people love getting a pure android nexus phone, because this type of nonsense doesnt exist there. its pure barebones elegance, with the OS working precisely as intended. zero samsung bloatware.
tommo123 said:
it take ages before the phone is usable.
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My sgs2 takes about 18seconds to boot to be usable thats good for a smart phone my x10 took about 40 and my old x1 was even longer.
kreoXDA said:
Captain Obvious speaking here , forgive me: If you have the weather widget on screen , or those live wallpapers that link with weather, your accuweather process needs to run.
And any app that has notification mode (like yahoo) will start up on boot, check what it is supposed to do ("are my notifications on or off?") and then recede to background if there is nothing to do or if the notifications are disabled.
If after boot you press and hold the home button, tap "task manager" then switch to the "ram" tab - does it show that you are using all 800 or so MB of memory with all those background apps? Probably not.
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Well Captain Obvious, I never run or use these apps and widgets... Hehe. That's why I asked originally...
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RogerPodacter said:
this sounds like its your first android phone. you arent the first person to notice this and be unhappy about it. this topic has been beaten to death in the android world. there are utilities you can do to remove broadcast receivers upon startup etc as well as tweak the internal memory algorithm numbers to be more aggressive. but in the end you are going against the OS. its best to remove any app you dont use and dont want starting up like that. and if you need root for that, then this just goes to show why so many people love getting a pure android nexus phone, because this type of nonsense doesnt exist there. its pure barebones elegance, with the OS working precisely as intended. zero samsung bloatware.
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my 2nd actually (desire last time round), rooted both, same annoyances in both - not HTC bloat, or samsung - the fact that i can't have control (key word here) over my phone. i mean if i wanted an OS without options i would have gone for an iphone!
i've tried a few apps that claim to stop apps booting up but they all fail.
as far as removing them, why? a simpler solution would be to stop the damn things running all the time. i don't use photoshop on my PC daily but i'm not going to install/uninstall the thing as i use it. it should just sit there waiting to be ran not doing anything at all until that moment.
silentbob59 said:
My sgs2 takes about 18seconds to boot to be usable thats good for a smart phone my x10 took about 40 and my old x1 was even longer.
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still a long time when you're looking at the screen wishing it would hurry the hell up. seriously, count it. boot up your phone in front of someone with winmo 7 or an iphone then, after it turns on and you see the first glimpse of your homescreen say - it'll just take another 20 seconds or so. 1...., 2..... 3..... 4..... 5...... etc etc etc.
it's annoying and bad practise from an "instant on" standpoint. i want to turn it on, type in pin, see homescreen and hit a shortcut and have it load. not have to other stuff i wont use that day to load in the background first.
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anyhoo - this is something that annoys me - big time ...obviously
yeah its just something that you're gonna have to live with. its just the way android is designed for better or worse.
If you have root, get an app called Gemini app manager, its free and you can tweak the autorun settings for anything.
That not the OS caching in ram(good) but stuff you dont need running and using cpu etc(bad).
Just be carefull about what you tweak and backup etc.
Surely stock apps don't each that much battery right? my ram is usually 200MB-300MB / 1GB and I'm using a brand new SG2 stock firmware / unrooted and the only widgets i have are pictures/weather/google search.
Even though social hub, digital clock, etc still run in "Running applications" the list is pretty small...
Maybe there are fixes for my issues. As I am new to android I'm not sure how to get them corrected. Here's a list. Maybe someone can land a hand.
How to keep screen on while on a charger.
How to make the GPS turn on and off when app starts and finishes.
How to set so it can detect a known wifi source, then activate wifi.
How to get the long lasting battery results everyone seems to be getting.
How to set the email app to open to the emails versus the screen to select which account to view as I have multiple accounts set up.
How to keep the lockscreen front turning off 3 seconds after I hit the wake button but not swiping to unlock.
That's about it for now. I come from an iphone ecosystem and am used to a few features my JB iphone provides. I'm sure ill have more "how to" questions.
Thank you all for the responses!
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How to resize the widgets.
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dakleenupman said:
Maybe there are fixes for my issues. As I am new to android I'm not sure how to get them corrected. Here's a list. Maybe someone can land a hand.
How to keep screen on while on a charger.
Screen setting to never off. And honestly, why the hell do you want the screen always on while charging? I charge mine when I'm not using it.
How to make the GPS turn on and off when app starts and finishes.
It already does by default
How to set so it can detect a known wifi source, then activate wifi.
It already does by default
How to get the long lasting battery results everyone seems to be getting.
Stop doing stupid **** on your phone. Your battery wont last 20 hours if you use if heavily. Don't tell me your icrap did either. My wife says battery is ridiculous on her Skyrocket compared to her icrap 4
How to set the email app to open to the emails versus the screen to select which account to view as I have multiple accounts set up.
Depends on what email app you are using. Also, click the little icon in your notification dropdown. Brings you to the mail just received
How to keep the lockscreen front turning off 3 seconds after I hit the wake button but not swiping to unlock.
dunno... doesn't bother me. It takes me less than 3 seconds to come to a decision on what the hell I want to do
How to resize the widgets
What launcher are you using? Touchwiz only lets you resize certain Samsung widgets.
That's about it for now. I come from an iphone ecosystem and am used to a few features my JB iphone provides. I'm sure ill have more "how to" questions.
Thank you all for the responses!
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See the bold above
Sounds like you are very new to Android, so you have normal questions. First thing it to figure out what the settings for your phone do. Theres always the Samsung forums for asking about your specific device also. I'm not sorry if that all sounds harsh. It was meant to. icrappers turning Android annoy me. The escape from the walled garden is like a kid with ADHD in a candy/toy shop.
How to get the homescreens to rotate into horizontal.
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dakleenupman said:
How to get the homescreens to rotate into horizontal.
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Stop using Touchwiz
dakleenupman said:
How to keep screen on while on a charger.
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Don't do that. You will get screen burn-in in pretty short time.
How to make the GPS turn on and off when app starts and finishes.
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It is already done for you by OS and apps. Just leave the GPS enabled.
How to set so it can detect a known wifi source, then activate wifi.
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Just leave wifi on. It uses slightly more battery but not enough to cause concerns.
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There's an amazing app called Tasker that will do a lot of your wish list. It's all about contexts - e.g. "on external power" "App {x} is in the foreground." It's the best ~$6 you'll ever spend, and never want to have another phone with out it. Almost all of it's awesome functions work without root, too.
htt p://tasker.dinglisch.net/ - dev/app site.
htt p://tasker.wikidot.com/ profile-index - some examples of Profiles
Enjoy! Sorry about the spaces in the links - n00b limit.
Thanks for the support. If I came from a walled garden, then why would I expect these functions that should be so easy to do. I have gone through the settings and came to the conclusion I needed help. Hence this post. If you can't help, I understand. Not everyone has that type of intelligence.
Uncle Irish said:
See the bold above
Sounds like you are very new to Android, so you have normal questions. First thing it to figure out what the settings for your phone do. Theres always the Samsung forums for asking about your specific device also. I'm not sorry if that all sounds harsh. It was meant to. icrappers turning Android annoy me. The escape from the walled garden is like a kid with ADHD in a candy/toy shop.
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Thanks for the info on the GPS and wifi. I guess I'm concerned so much about my battery.
foxbat121 said:
Don't do that. You will get screen burn-in in pretty short time.
It is already done for you by OS and apps. Just leave the GPS enabled.
Just leave wifi on. It uses slightly more battery but not enough to cause concerns.
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That sounds like something ill need to look into and spend sonera money on. Thank you very much for the help. That's why I like XDA. Most folds are here for the common good. MOST folks.... ;-)
dastars said:
There's an amazing app called Tasker that will do a lot of your wish list. It's all about contexts - e.g. "on external power" "App {x} is in the foreground." It's the best ~$6 you'll ever spend, and never want to have another phone with out it. Almost all of it's awesome functions work without root, too.
htt p://tasker.dinglisch.net/ - dev/app site.
htt p://tasker.wikidot.com/ profile-index - some examples of Profiles
Enjoy! Sorry about the spaces in the links - n00b limit.
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dakleenupman said:
Maybe there are fixes for my issues. As I am new to android I'm not sure how to get them corrected. Here's a list. Maybe someone can land a hand.
How to keep screen on while on a charger.
How to make the GPS turn on and off when app starts and finishes.
How to set so it can detect a known wifi source, then activate wifi.
How to get the long lasting battery results everyone seems to be getting.
How to set the email app to open to the emails versus the screen to select which account to view as I have multiple accounts set up.
How to keep the lockscreen front turning off 3 seconds after I hit the wake button but not swiping to unlock.
That's about it for now. I come from an iphone ecosystem and am used to a few features my JB iphone provides. I'm sure ill have more "how to" questions.
Thank you all for the responses!
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u dont wanna keep the screen on all the time while on charge.these screen is not like lcd.oled screen have shorter life.
How to keep the lockscreen front turning off 3 seconds after I hit the wake button but not swiping to unlock
to save battery power from being wasted
@dakleenupman
Sorry about my assish post last night. I blame it in the alcohol. That's so not me normally. I'd been listening to a client ***** all day about why their 8 year old server keeps having problems and you were my outlet. Sry bout that ...
That's cool. I appreciate the apology. Nothing personal. I'm just trying to maximize my experience with this new device. Unlike other iphone users I'm willing to try new and better things.
Uncle Irish said:
@dakleenupman
Sorry about my assish post last night. I blame it in the alcohol. That's so not me normally. I'd been listening to a client ***** all day about why their 8 year old server keeps having problems and you were my outlet. Sry bout that ...
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That's cool. I appreciate the apology. Nothing personal. I'm just trying to maximize my experience with this new device. Unlike other iphone users I'm willing to try new and better things.
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cool
keep the questions rolling
How to keep screen on while on a charger.
>It can be done, there are apps to do it, depending on what you want your screen to display. For instance, on my old phone I used "Gentle Alarm" to display a digital clock image while in a hotel or something. However the screen on this phone is apparently prone to having images burn in...
How to make the GPS turn on and off when app starts and finishes.
>Android only turns it on when something is using it, so if you see that little icon on a lot of the time there may be something running in the background that you might not intend. This may also be the cause of your battery drain. Press and hold the home button (you will see your recently launched tasks) and hit task manager. You can then clear many unnecessary tasks that may be running in the background. If you don't see the obvious culprit there, you may have to dig deeper...
How to set so it can detect a known wifi source, then activate wifi.
>This is a funny question if you think about it, because how could it detect a known wifi source without wifi on? I use Tasker, too. You can easily make a profile while connected to your wifi check for "state: wifi near (toggle wifi), turn wifi on. You can set it to run when you unlock your screen, for instance. You can also set it up to turn on your screen based on location, but remember that if you use GPS too much...
Tasker is fun to play with anyway.
How to get the long lasting battery results everyone seems to be getting.
>You can try an app called Juice Defender, or similar. It has many battery saving features, including the ability to turn on wifi only when available. Its another fun app to play with, but most people here would agree that you should stay away from task killers.
How to set the email app to open to the emails versus the screen to select which account to view as I have multiple accounts set up.
>I have never had multiple emails with the same app, but I always assumed that that is how it worked...
How to keep the lockscreen front turning off 3 seconds after I hit the wake button but not swiping to unlock.
>No idea, but there are apps to disable the lockscreen if you want. I'm sure you can change the setting somehow, but probably at the root level. Search XDA...
That's about it for now. I come from an iphone ecosystem and am used to a few features my JB iphone provides. I'm sure ill have more "how to" questions.
>Easiest way to do stuff is just to keep searching the Market to see if somebody has made an app to do it (Android Market is your friend). Once you get more advanced you can try to do it yourself (then XDA is your friend). I have played with my wife's iPhone, and you will appreciate that the Market has apps that can do MUCH more cool stuff, and the vast majority are free because they were made by enthusiasts. The rest are usually reasonably priced. Once you root your phone there are many more options.
These phones quickly become a full time hobby. I hardly ever play games anymore, I just spend my free time tinkering...
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How to lock the volume keys so they don't get bumped?
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Juice defender is a placebo...
I bought it when I was on eclair... it made a difference there... though not much
However froyo up... android does a better job on its own...
Think about it... running a program that is on all the time to "save" battery?
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As to you wanting the lockscreen to stay on longer, there are several lockscreen replacements you could use. I'm not sure which ones have the option besides widgetlocker though. With widgetlocker, you can set the lockscreen timeout to various durations. I know it worked on my infuse, not sure about the note though.
The downside is that it costs a couple bucks and it will drain your battery a bit if I remember correctly because it keeps the device in a wakelock and does not allow deep sleep. Its not a huge battery drain, but it does some. However, if the timeout is more important than a tiny amount of battery drain, I suggest doing that.
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I have noticed an improvement using JD and that's actual not placebo. I get your point though on an app that runs to save battery. But whatever its doing, its working better than whatever I'm doing without it.
rignfool said:
Juice defender is a placebo...
I bought it when I was on eclair... it made a difference there... though not much
However froyo up... android does a better job on its own...
Think about it... running a program that is on all the time to "save" battery?
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Hey, thanks for the reply. I'm trying some of these things you suggested. The general consensus is USB that ill just bought need to find things which is fine as I'm all about adventure.
slaydog said:
How to keep screen on while on a charger.
>It can be done, there are apps to do it, depending on what you want your screen to display. For instance, on my old phone I used "Gentle Alarm" to display a digital clock image while in a hotel or something. However the screen on this phone is apparently prone to having images burn in...
How to make the GPS turn on and off when app starts and finishes.
>Android only turns it on when something is using it, so if you see that little icon on a lot of the time there may be something running in the background that you might not intend. This may also be the cause of your battery drain. Press and hold the home button (you will see your recently launched tasks) and hit task manager. You can then clear many unnecessary tasks that may be running in the background. If you don't see the obvious culprit there, you may have to dig deeper...
How to set so it can detect a known wifi source, then activate wifi.
>This is a funny question if you think about it, because how could it detect a known wifi source without wifi on? I use Tasker, too. You can easily make a profile while connected to your wifi check for "state: wifi near (toggle wifi), turn wifi on. You can set it to run when you unlock your screen, for instance. You can also set it up to turn on your screen based on location, but remember that if you use GPS too much...
Tasker is fun to play with anyway.
How to get the long lasting battery results everyone seems to be getting.
>You can try an app called Juice Defender, or similar. It has many battery saving features, including the ability to turn on wifi only when available. Its another fun app to play with, but most people here would agree that you should stay away from task killers.
How to set the email app to open to the emails versus the screen to select which account to view as I have multiple accounts set up.
>I have never had multiple emails with the same app, but I always assumed that that is how it worked...
How to keep the lockscreen front turning off 3 seconds after I hit the wake button but not swiping to unlock.
>No idea, but there are apps to disable the lockscreen if you want. I'm sure you can change the setting somehow, but probably at the root level. Search XDA...
That's about it for now. I come from an iphone ecosystem and am used to a few features my JB iphone provides. I'm sure ill have more "how to" questions.
>Easiest way to do stuff is just to keep searching the Market to see if somebody has made an app to do it (Android Market is your friend). Once you get more advanced you can try to do it yourself (then XDA is your friend). I have played with my wife's iPhone, and you will appreciate that the Market has apps that can do MUCH more cool stuff, and the vast majority are free because they were made by enthusiasts. The rest are usually reasonably priced. Once you root your phone there are many more options.
These phones quickly become a full time hobby. I hardly ever play games anymore, I just spend my free time tinkering...
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Hello,
I've been on stock kernel/OS since I bought my unbranded I9100 some time ago, that means Gingerbread 2.3.4, I9100XXKI1, Kernel 2.6.35.7-I9100XWKI4-CL575468 (rooted, of course).
I'm thinking about trying CM9 or CM10, just for fun. I think I know pretty well what to expect, but am trying to figure out if there are things I will be missing. As far as I can tell, the following will change significantly:
- Touchwiz launcher replaced, of course. No biggie.
- Swype will be gone, right? I played around with CM way back, and there seemed to be some discussions about how to take Swype with you, but I assume this will be rather hard when going from Gingerbread to JB? Or is there a good way to keep it (without buying it separately)? I like it rather a lot...
- The four hubs (Social Hub etc.) will be gone. Good riddance, as well, I've never used any of them.
- I've not used any of the Samsung remote features (to locate a stolen/lost device; OTA, or KIES), so I guess they will be gone, but I won't miss them.
Is there anything else I've missed that's been added by Samsung? I want to avoid a problem where I don't actually notice anything important missing at first, and then noticing weeks later...
Thank you for your time!
I noticed my camera was missing on one of them.
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No tv out. No fm radio. If swype is the keyboard typing style, i dont think thats gone, but i will check.
Camera is still better in stock touchwiz. Also, clear ram from recent apps isnt there.
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You could use titanium backup to backup all of your (system) apps. If something (important) turns out to be missing, you can restore it easily. Apart from that, flash it, you won't be disappointed. Good luck with exploring all the possibilities.
Ota's
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Unleashed1985 said:
You could use titanium backup to backup all of your (system) apps. If something (important) turns out to be missing, you can restore it easily. Apart from that, flash it, you won't be disappointed. Good luck with exploring all the possibilities.
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Apps only in touchwiz wont work in aosp roms since they are deeply integrated within the touchwiz framework, so no use backup app system apps nor system data. Restoring system data may cause problems ranging from bootloops to force closes.
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Spiralzz said:
Apps only in touchwiz wont work in aosp roms since they are deeply integrated within the touchwiz framework, so no use backup app system apps nor system data. Restoring system data may cause problems ranging from bootloops to force closes.
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I stand corrected! Thanks.
SeGalaxy said:
Hello,
I've been on stock kernel/OS since I bought my unbranded I9100 some time ago, that means Gingerbread 2.3.4, I9100XXKI1, Kernel 2.6.35.7-I9100XWKI4-CL575468 (rooted, of course).
I'm thinking about trying CM9 or CM10, just for fun. I think I know pretty well what to expect, but am trying to figure out if there are things I will be missing. As far as I can tell, the following will change significantly:
- Touchwiz launcher replaced, of course. No biggie.
- Swype will be gone, right? I played around with CM way back, and there seemed to be some discussions about how to take Swype with you, but I assume this will be rather hard when going from Gingerbread to JB? Or is there a good way to keep it (without buying it separately)? I like it rather a lot...
- The four hubs (Social Hub etc.) will be gone. Good riddance, as well, I've never used any of them.
- I've not used any of the Samsung remote features (to locate a stolen/lost device; OTA, or KIES), so I guess they will be gone, but I won't miss them.
Is there anything else I've missed that's been added by Samsung? I want to avoid a problem where I don't actually notice anything important missing at first, and then noticing weeks later...
Thank you for your time!
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1.Touchwiz Calender
2.Touchwiz Clock (this has been successfully ported)
3. Camera App
4. Video player and hardware multicodec support
5. Preinstalled file manager, you will to download one after install
5. Swype is not an issue, you can download Swype on beta.swype.com
I'll add more when i remember because presently i am not usinga stock ROM
6. Swipe left on contacts to text, swipe right on contacts to call.
7. Native video calling in phone app
:laugh::laugh: seems to me an endless list of MISS for sure, the poor guy @op will be really scared to proceed further
Sun90 said:
:laugh::laugh: seems to me an endless list of MISS for sure, the poor guy @op will be really scared to proceed further
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Lol Sun,hes saved loads of time though....
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Thanks for the great additions, guys (& gals)!
2.Touchwiz Clock (this has been successfully ported)
3. Camera App
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Alright, the clock. I use that a lot, all of it (alarm + timer + stopwatch). That would be a bummer to loose, I guess there will be some useful replacements on the market though.
There are plenty of camera apps around. Can I safely assume that the picture quality (as it is) will be the same as with the stock camera app? I use the camera for taking pictures, I need no effects, online stuff etc. around photos. In fact I am not that happy with the stock camera, as I find it tough to shoot a photo when I don't see the screen... so I'll be happy to hunt for a camera app that supports some of the hardware buttons for shooting.
5. Swype is not an issue, you can download Swype on beta.swype.com
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Well yes, but I'll have to register/pay for it, or don't I?
Is there a way to see which app is Samsung specific, on the phone itself? Or is basically *any* app that shipped with it either in gapps or by Samsung/Touchwiz?
Thanks a lot, again.
SeGalaxy said:
Thanks for the great additions, guys (& gals)!
Alright, the clock. I use that a lot, all of it (alarm + timer + stopwatch). That would be a bummer to loose, I guess there will be some useful replacements on the market though.
There are plenty of camera apps around. Can I safely assume that the picture quality (as it is) will be the same as with the stock camera app? I use the camera for taking pictures, I need no effects, online stuff etc. around photos. In fact I am not that happy with the stock camera, as I find it tough to shoot a photo when I don't see the screen... so I'll be happy to hunt for a camera app that supports some of the hardware buttons for shooting.
Well yes, but I'll have to register/pay for it, or don't I?
Is there a way to see which app is Samsung specific, on the phone itself? Or is basically *any* app that shipped with it either in gapps or by Samsung/Touchwiz?
Thanks a lot, again.
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u can check this spreadsheet link below, hope it will be usefull for u
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0AnO2-4y6yE1gdDJRekl4QmkyNmIzUmRvX2h3UDVkQXc&output=html
Just make a nand backup of what youve got then try other roms.You can revert back if your not happy.
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SeGalaxy said:
Thanks for the great additions, guys (& gals)!
Alright, the clock. I use that a lot, all of it (alarm + timer + stopwatch). That would be a bummer to loose, I guess there will be some useful replacements on the market though.
There are plenty of camera apps around. Can I safely assume that the picture quality (as it is) will be the same as with the stock camera app? I use the camera for taking pictures, I need no effects, online stuff etc. around photos. In fact I am not that happy with the stock camera, as I find it tough to shoot a photo when I don't see the screen... so I'll be happy to hunt for a camera app that supports some of the hardware buttons for shooting.
Well yes, but I'll have to register/pay for it, or don't I?
Is there a way to see which app is Samsung specific, on the phone itself? Or is basically *any* app that shipped with it either in gapps or by Samsung/Touchwiz?
Thanks a lot, again.
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Swype is free and so is the registration and download. Visit the website on your Android browser.
Swyped from my Galaxy SII
SeGalaxy said:
Hello,
I've been on stock kernel/OS since I bought my unbranded I9100 some time ago, that means Gingerbread 2.3.4, I9100XXKI1, Kernel 2.6.35.7-I9100XWKI4-CL575468 (rooted, of course).
I'm thinking about trying CM9 or CM10, just for fun. I think I know pretty well what to expect, but am trying to figure out if there are things I will be missing. As far as I can tell, the following will change significantly:
- Touchwiz launcher replaced, of course. No biggie.
- Swype will be gone, right? I played around with CM way back, and there seemed to be some discussions about how to take Swype with you, but I assume this will be rather hard when going from Gingerbread to JB? Or is there a good way to keep it (without buying it separately)? I like it rather a lot...
- The four hubs (Social Hub etc.) will be gone. Good riddance, as well, I've never used any of them.
- I've not used any of the Samsung remote features (to locate a stolen/lost device; OTA, or KIES), so I guess they will be gone, but I won't miss them.
Is there anything else I've missed that's been added by Samsung? I want to avoid a problem where I don't actually notice anything important missing at first, and then noticing weeks later...
Thank you for your time!
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If u try custom rom based on stock, then its not like u missing anything..but if custom based on cm9/cm10, AOSP, then u missing camera quality..
DarkRom/Superatmos Kernal
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You will loose different things, but alot of the things you will miss by first boot you can find here on XDA or on playstore.
And you will probably loose your warranty...
chefen.chef said:
You will loose different things, but alot of the things you will miss by first boot you can find here on XDA or on playstore.
And you will probably loose your warranty...
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Triangle Away is a useful app.... If you get what i mean...
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CM 9 is not that good.. additionally you lose call blocking ability but you can download the app.. there is an app for everything but you know.. your really gonna miss touchwiz,
I did.. and I would have moved off cm9 by now cause my battery was draining pretty bad on the rom however after 3 days the battery time was back to normal which is weird..
Just curious what are other people's reasons for wanting root?
For me it's for wifi tether, ad free, use my backup pro to get some rooted features, get headphone icon to go away when plugged in and see some of the other features that big red took out. Pretty simple dude.
Pretty much for all the same reasons why everyone roots on all android platform phones... I'm assuming
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I want root for command line access to system files, titanium backup, blocking ads, and for making the led notifcations stay on when the screen is on.
imagine your computer was locked down, you couldn't modify your os, if you wanted a certain feature you had to go buy a different computer that had that feature... how many computers would you need in order to get all of the features you wanted? or you could 'root' it and have just one computer but with all of the things you wanted on it... and remove the things you didn't want.
same concept, but on a phone instead of a desktop.
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to get rid of ads, debloat, flash a custom recovery, and flash roms...pretty much the whole reason xda exists.
I know the point of root. Think you missed the point. I asked why do YOU want root. Just seeing other people's similarities and differences
my_handle said:
I know the point of root. Think you missed the point. I asked why do YOU want root. Just seeing other people's similarities and differences
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I just told you why I want root...lol :silly:
my_handle said:
Just curious what are other people's reasons for wanting root?
For me it's for wifi tether, ad free, use my backup pro to get some rooted features, get headphone icon to go away when plugged in and see some of the other features that big red took out. Pretty simple dude.
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You can just disable the headphones icon. just disable its page buddy. It's under settings--->display----->page buddy---->uncheck earphones page.
jellydroid13 said:
You can just disable the headphones icon. just disable its page buddy. It's under settings--->display----->page buddy---->uncheck earphones page.
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But I kind of like the Page buddy. .... I'd like to keep it but get rid of that icon in the notification bar. With the sgs3 it was easy just had to freeze one thing
I got this phone for them multi-window and you can only multi-window a few apps as of right now.
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I got this phone for them multi-window and you can only multi-window a few apps as of right now.
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I think you can do this without root.
I hate the Ongoing WiFi notification and I want to kill it when I have root. Plus ad blocking, native tethering, over clocks, adding my own apps to Multi-Window, turning off the stupid Install mode when I connect it to computer over USB, getting S-Planner back, etc.
I want to get the missing apps back for multiview, I want infinite scrolling on the home screen without having to use a different launcher, I want to take advantage of the extra controls with Tasker and Secure Settings, titanium backup, removing bloat ware, the usual
TB, de-bloat, have more apps compatible with multiwindow, directory bind for moving game data to ext card, get rid of the clutter on the status/notification bar, 180 rotation, change the dpi/tablet mode, change kernels...and just to feed my ROM flash addiction!
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Well guys, we got root. So who's going to make us all these mods we want?
To get rid of junk and adware.
cause it is my damn phone
Sent via quantum entanglement or possibly my Note 2...for sure one of those.
I just like customizing my phone to do what I need it to do... it just turned into a hobby damn og droid started this expensive addiction
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sometimes those awesome apk oni can install in rooted device.. :fingers-crossed:
Do we have a list of deletable apps yet?
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My job gives me a Samsing S4 from Verizon that is filled with bloat. I have to manually go in and disable everything which takes about 4 hours or so. I am looking for an app that can do it for me but it needs to be a well known app not something that somebody just posts an apk. Any auggestions?
We are not allowed to root the phones. It would be great if I could put a googe play edition or developer edition rom on it or something but I don't think that's possible.
bird11 said:
My job gives me a Samsing S4 from Verizon that is filled with bloat. I have to manually go in and disable everything which takes about 4 hours or so. I am looking for an app that can do it for me but it needs to be a well known app not something that somebody just posts an apk. Any auggestions?
We are not allowed to root the phones. It would be great if I could put a googe play edition or developer edition rom on it or something but I don't think that's possible.
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You will have to root your phone for all this. You can only flash stock rom on the device without rooting it.
What bloat wares are we talking about specifically? Do you mean all the S-voice/S-Note/Air gestures??
They can be activated and deactivated from the pull down menu. Other things need to be disabled manually!There is no work around this without root. You can try the widgets on the screen that allow you to disable wi-fi and bluetooth but its nothing new than what samsung offers from the pulldown menu
Hit thanks if this was helpful!
You should did root
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What, you mean you don't absolutely NEED NFL Mobile? And Verizon Navigator is so much better than Google Maps!
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You can't remove system apps without root. Clean Master has a function to remove bloat if you're rooted. I don't know if this is changed to disabling if you're not rooted, because my devices are rooted. I seem to remember a previous version of Clean Master had something like that. It merely took you to the app info scree, one at a time, but at least it did it sequentially instead of you having to hunt for each one on your own. Maybe that still exists.
Since Android 4.1, many bloatware type apps can just be disabled via the the built-in Application Manager in your Settings app. Disabling it will hide it from the launcher and make it so it does not run, essentially doing the same thing as uninstalling it. It is better this way because some phones will not properly update if something is modified or removed from the /system partition. Also worth noting in regards to this as it is a popular misconception, removing these unwanted apps will not provide you with more usable storage as they are contained in /system/app and the apps you install via the Play Store or 3rd party sources will only install to /data/app unless rooted and moved.
That being said, TowelRoot is a newer rooting method for many newer phones running 4.4+(especially Galaxies like the S4 and Note 3). This root method is done via an app on the phone and only takes seconds and does not trip Knox. You could root, freeze what you needed and then unroot without anyone the wiser, though, of course, this is done at your own risk - like any other mod.
lpimpale said:
You will have to root your phone for all this. You can only flash stock rom on the device without rooting it.
What bloat wares are we talking about specifically? Do you mean all the S-voice/S-Note/Air gestures??
They can be activated and deactivated from the pull down menu. Other things need to be disabled manually!There is no work around this without root. You can try the widgets on the screen that allow you to disable wi-fi and bluetooth but its nothing new than what samsung offers from the pulldown menu
Hit thanks if this was helpful!
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How do I flash stock roms without rooting?
As I mentioned every time I need to do a factory reset it takes about 4 hours of disabling things to get it to the state I want.
There's this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2058944
xda'dra said:
You should did root
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I can't.
Planterz said:
What, you mean you don't absolutely NEED NFL Mobile? And Verizon Navigator is so much better than Google Maps!
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You can't remove system apps without root. Clean Master has a function to remove bloat if you're rooted. I don't know if this is changed to disabling if you're not rooted, because my devices are rooted. I seem to remember a previous version of Clean Master had something like that. It merely took you to the app info scree, one at a time, but at least it did it sequentially instead of you having to hunt for each one on your own. Maybe that still exists.
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Thanks.
es0tericcha0s said:
Since Android 4.1, many bloatware type apps can just be disabled via the the built-in Application Manager in your Settings app. Disabling it will hide it from the launcher and make it so it does not run, essentially doing the same thing as uninstalling it. It is better this way because some phones will not properly update if something is modified or removed from the /system partition. Also worth noting in regards to this as it is a popular misconception, removing these unwanted apps will not provide you with more usable storage as they are contained in /system/app and the apps you install via the Play Store or 3rd party sources will only install to /data/app unless rooted and moved.
That being said, TowelRoot is a newer rooting method for many newer phones running 4.4+(especially Galaxies like the S4 and Note 3). This root method is done via an app on the phone and only takes seconds and does not trip Knox. You could root, freeze what you needed and then unroot without anyone the wiser, though, of course, this is done at your own risk - like any other mod.
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Yes you can disable them but it takes about 4 hours to do it each time. There's a lot of them. About 95% of stuff needs to be disabled.
Towelroot looks great unfortunately I am not able to root the phone. They don't use knox. I can do anything but root the phone really. I really just want vanilla android I'm a bit sick of touchwiz. I'd love to just flash to the developer edition or something.
bird11 said:
My job gives me a Samsing S4 from Verizon that is filled with bloat. I have to manually go in and disable everything which takes about 4 hours or so. I am looking for an app that can do it for me but it needs to be a well known app not something that somebody just posts an apk. Any auggestions?
We are not allowed to root the phones. It would be great if I could put a googe play edition or developer edition rom on it or something but I don't think that's possible.
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The S4s bootloader is locked so basically not a lot to choose from. And as others have mentioned you need root to gain access to remove bloatware. Sadly samsung phones on VZW are filled with it as well as many other phones, it's not limited to just samsung.
And navigator may be better than Google maps but maps is free and having been a former user of both NFL mobile (when it was free) and navigator I'm happy I got rid of both of them
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bird11 said:
How do I flash stock roms without rooting?
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You can't flash any ROM without rooting, and aren't you already on stock?
I think you're gonna have to just live with it...
el-figurin said:
You can't flash any ROM without rooting, and aren't you already on stock?
I think you're gonna have to just live with it...
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I'm almost sure they are on stock as its a work phone and mentioned in the first post that they aren't allowed to root
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ShapesBlue said:
I'm almost sure they are on stock as its a work phone and mentioned in the first post that they aren't allowed to root
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Yes, not much to do with those restrictions...
el-figurin said:
Yes, not much to do with those restrictions...
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That's very true. Some people however don't know you need root to remove bloatware or unneeded apps
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