Android 4.4 for DNA? - HTC Droid DNA

This looks promising
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/514505/20131017/android-4-kitkat-update-8-htc-lg.htm
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We'll be lucky to get the 4.2.2/4.3 Sense 5 update by the end of the year as "promised". Gonna be a while before we see 4.4

"Strong possibility" translates to "not gonna happen" look at Verizon's past "updates" to their phones.
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Soon to new Verizon bashing thread ?
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As much as I would love to see 4.4, and thank you OP for the link, I have to agree, Verizons track record doesn't bode well for them in this.
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I would love to be more optimistic, but it's going to be almost a year next month and our phone is still on 4.1.1 Thanks for XDA and the wonderful developers around here:good:

Never from Verizon. Dev only. End of story.
This phone will be lucky to get 4.2.2

Uzephi said:
"Strong possibility" translates to "not gonna happen" look at Verizon's past "updates" to their phones.
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Definitely. If "Guaranteed by x date" Means, you'll get it a year after you've moved onto your next phone (My thunderbolt getting ICS), then I would bet that "Strong possibility" means "We're too afraid to tell you we don't give a crap about DNA users anymore."

It's almost as if these HTC execs or whatever are taunting the owners. Lol. First it was 4.3 by the end of Sept. Then it was 4.2 and Sense 5 by the end of Sept. Then it was by the end of the year. Now there saying maybe 4.3, or even 4.4.
This is just rude.

They will probably have it submitted to Verizon by the end of the year and Verizon will test it for 2 more years.
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bigjayr said:
i have faith!
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I wouldn't lol.. We will see 4.4 but not from Verizon/HTC.
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nothing wrong with staying positive, too much negativity already
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bigjayr said:
nothing wrong with staying positive, too much negativity already
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Haha your right I've watch to many HTC Verizon devices be ignored.
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coachcrey said:
Haha your right I've watch to many HTC Verizon devices be ignored.
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It's not HTC's fault it's Verizon if it were up to them to push updates we would have 4.3 already. It's Verizon who controls it all and they don't do updates so people will go and buy the latest and greatest phone.
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Jaggar345 said:
It's not HTC's fault it's Verizon if it were up to them to push updates we would have 4.3 already. It's Verizon who controls it all and they don't do updates so people will go and buy the latest and greatest phone.
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Your right man no argument there
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coachcrey said:
Your right man no argument there
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Weather we get 4.4 officially or not (doubt we ever will) I'm sure there are developers who are going to be making 4.4 based roms. That's why most of us are on xda to get the best out of our phones. Either way my dna isn't going anywhere for a long time.
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Weather we get 4.4 officially or not (doubt we ever will) I'm sure there are developers who are going to be making 4.4 based roms. That's why most of us are on xda to get the best out of our phones. Either way my dna isn't going anywhere for a long time.
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For sure solid group of devs!
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Can care less what Verizon is doing. We're all on here for the amazing work our devs do for us! Can't wait to see a 4.4 aosp ROM!
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swiftinmotion said:
Can care less what Verizon is doing. We're all on here for the amazing work our devs do for us! Can't wait to see a 4.4 aosp ROM!
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+1 to that!

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Fail by HTC

Droid Razr gets Jelly Bean update today while we still wonder if the Rezound is even on the list.
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My forecast, the Rezound probably won't see jellybean officially. If that's what you're wanting to see I would get a different device. And by that I mean a device that already has jellybean.
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And HTC wonders why their profits fall as they forget about flagship phones, first 4G phone, first HD 720p phone, etc...if u can't keep those updated then why keep buying from your company? HTC better redesign their business model or bye bye. Even Motorola is only gonna slightly theme on top of Google updates so they can update within 3 months of a new release. I will protest against HTC by buying the new X phone by google and Motorola.
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I think a lot of it is "why bother with Verizon phones?"
Verizon only cares about the popular phones. You can't blame them if they make money from it.
With the Bionic getting OTA 4.0 and Razr getting OTA 4.1.2 shows that HTC is slowly digging their own grave. They are always late or deliver an incomplete update that breaks something that needs and update to fix it. HTC flyer comes to mind....they broke it with update then simply walked away like a child who broke something acted like it never happened.
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Hence the reason I'm going to the note 2
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Droid Razr gets Jelly Bean update today while we still wonder if the Rezound is even on the list.
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I disagree. I feel it's a fail on your part for even considering it will get Jelly Bean. Why are you so worried about what Motorola is doing when you have a HTC device?
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With the Bionic getting OTA 4.0 and Razr getting OTA 4.1.2 shows that HTC is slowly digging their own grave. They are always late or deliver an incomplete update that breaks something that needs and update to fix it. HTC flyer comes to mind....they broke it with update then simply walked away like a child who broke something acted like it never happened.
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Posts like these bother me. The phone got ICS months ago and now peopel are whining like little babies, "I WANT JELLY BEAN! HTC SUCKS!" HTC IS FAILING!"
To be honest I probably won't get another HTC device in 2013 when I upgrade, but I'm not whining about my Rezound either. I paid a mere $60 for it 3 months after it was released.
I will laugh at the naysayers and whiners **WHEN** we get official JB OTA.
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I could care less if HTC fails but as long as we have Chad, I'll be happy.
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I don't think the Rezound was meant to be a flagship in HTC and Verizon's eyes. It was just a device to have something to sell near the holidays and was never too popular sadly.
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I disagree. I feel it's a fail on your part for even considering it will get Jelly Bean. Why are you so worried about what Motorola is doing when you have a HTC device.
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If this is how u feel then why ever update the phone past what it comes equipped with. You are missing the entire point I was trying to make. This is hands down a better device than the Razr but is being held back by HTC that would rather build new phones than update them. My last 3 phone have been HTC, my next will be the X phone. If my thread bothers u so much to bad, it was a news update and opinion from me, we still have free speech....for now anyways.
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chrisjz said:
I could care less if HTC fails but as long as we have Chad, I'll be happy.
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True that.....HTC should hire that man, maybe they'll get their crap together.
my phone has jellybean!! oh wait.. I have the dna.. lol
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jayochs said:
my phone has jellybean!! oh wait.. I have the dna.. lol
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Yet you always come back to the rezound thread. Well get official jellybean soon....
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richii0207 said:
Yet you always come back to the rezound thread. Well get unofficial jellybean soon....
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FTFY.
richii0207 said:
Yet you always come back to the rezound thread. Well get official jellybean soon....
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That's cus the Rezound folk are good company!
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Obaterista93 said:
FTFY.
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*Official....just you wait and see
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richii0207 said:
*Official....just you wait and see
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I dont see it happening. They screwed us out of Sense 4. Are they gonna give us Sense 3.7 with JB?
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All I know is that come tax season I'm getting the s3
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Obaterista93 said:
I dont see it happening. They screwed us out of Sense 4. Are they gonna give us Sense 3.7 with JB?
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That is one question I do not know. I guess we will find out but JB is coming to the rezound.
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Jelly bean

Well there ever be a jelly bean for the HTC Thunderbolt?
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Maybe after we get kernel source. Until then not likely
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How exactly do you get the kernel source? Sorry kinda new at this.
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denisjr said:
How exactly do you get the kernel source? Sorry kinda new at this.
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We get it from HTC and they won't release it for 90 days. There is still a possibility that even if we get it it may not run correctly on the thunderbolt. We will see though.
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We get it from HTC and they won't release it for 90 days. There is still a possibility that even if we get it it may not run correctly on the thunderbolt. We will see though.
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So we're stuck with ICS until HTC releases it's kernel source?
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ktracho13 said:
So we're stuck with ICS until HTC releases it's kernel source?
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"stuck" with ICS? You people amaze me...begging for ICS and now we get it and people are still gonna complain...
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So we're stuck with ICS until HTC releases it's kernel source?
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I'm not but you guys are. I have jb on my badass nexus 7 so I'm not really worried about it. But Yea. Not much we can do with jb until sources are released.
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I think I should of said "my phone is stuck with ICS" I'm
Running CM10 on my "badass" RAZR M
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I think I should of said "my phone is stuck with ICS" I'm
Running CM10 on my "badass" RAZR M
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Nice I had to show my niece how to update her maxx HD to jb.
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disconnecktie said:
Nice I had to show my niece how to update her maxx HD to jb.
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So your nice has a maxx HD and you have a Nexus 7? Lol
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So your nice has a maxx HD and you have a Nexus 7? Lol
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Yep that is the case
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On a funnier note, my old OG Incredible is running JB 4.2, despite being an ancient phone. That thing must be super easy to dev for or something...compared to the Bolt anyway.
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tm24fan8 said:
On a funnier note, my old OG Incredible is running JB 4.2, despite being an ancient phone. That thing must be super easy to dev for or something...compared to the Bolt anyway.
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The thunderbolt is the first phone on Verizon that has svdo which let's you talk and surf the internet at the same time even on 3g data. HTC and Verizon have both been protecting this technology by keeping sources closed indefinitely on the radio software for one. Since a lot of the sources are closed devs don't have interest in finding hacks and workarounds to deal with the lack of source. That's why a lot of the devs left this device. Even still though we have official ics and in a few months we should have the sources we need to build custom kernels that are needed for making a jb from.
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Yeah I can understand the frustration from the devs. If we get it I'll enjoy it, if not then oh well not a big deal in my book. Still a good enough phone for my broke budget right now either way
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Newtoroot's Sense 5.0 thread closed? =[

I'm guessing it had to do with the agreement between HTC and XDA about early releases, infringement, etc.
Boo...!! (Although I understand.. Just a little disappointed because Newt was doing such a great job.)
What now?
arozer said:
I'm guessing it had to do with the agreement between HTC and XDA about early releases, infringement, etc.
Boo...!! (Although I understand.. Just a little disappointed because Newt was doing such a great job.)
What now?
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That or source.. He'll straiten it out... No worries..
It's always source.
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Its a fine line we walk on here. In one hand HTC says we are going to make a developer phone. In the other hand they say Sense is closed source. Then with one of their feet they open HTCDEV.com .. its very confusing. HTC wants to be open but they want to protect there stuff too. Personally I don't blame them, I just want it to be fare.
It's not about HTC don't worry the thread will be open soon
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When HTC is after you for copyright infringement, you would know.
They probably would notify him directly instead of through a moderator of an online forum.
On a different subject thanks to newt and zone.
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only if the xda rule broken was mentioned would have been good.
Kernel source? Just guessing and I know xda has locked lots of threads due to it.
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only if the xda rule broken was mentioned would have been good.
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No rule was broken it's just a misunderstanding
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Kernel source? Just guessing and I know xda has locked lots of threads due to it.
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No he uses my kernel and my source is posted in it's thread and the source is updated within 24hours I'd posting
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Would be nice if the moderator added an explanation for us on why the thread was locked..
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I wonder how long is gonna be locked?
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I'm so over this crap. This phone doesn't have much dev super as it is and we continue to have rule breakers, snitches, etc etc.. I'm getting an s4 and will watch HTC sink from afar.... Maybe I'm overreacting but that how I feel after reading about all this today.
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jzarfos said:
I'm so over this crap. This phone doesn't have much dev super as it is and we continue to have rule breakers, snitches, etc etc.. I'm getting an s4 and will watch HTC sink from afar.... Maybe I'm overreacting but that how I feel after reading about all this today.
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Totally overreacting... Lol
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jzarfos said:
I'm so over this crap. This phone doesn't have much dev super as it is and we continue to have rule breakers, snitches, etc etc.. I'm getting an s4 and will watch HTC sink from afar.... Maybe I'm overreacting but that how I feel after reading about all this today.
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Goodbye, take care, adios, thank gosh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1PBptSDIh8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I'm still waiting to hear something guys there's really no reason for it but there's nothing I can do but wait...
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Would be nice if the moderator added an explanation for us on why the thread was locked..
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+1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v90KPJ6n4Ew&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Newt taking control of the situation lol
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I'm still waiting to hear something guys there's really no reason for it but there's nothing I can do but wait...
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Are u making improvments like mms for vzw people or any other?
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The Rom that was created by this team of people is awesome. It improves this device by leaps. I loved the stock version, viper version and now this "RealDNA" VERSION rocks. Super smooth and great new features. Thanks for making my phone a toy and not just a tool. I hope this problem was just a naming issue. I can't wait till newt names his baby.
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DNA KK update reaches certification phase

Have a read....taken with a grain of salt obviously. It was interesting to learn a bit more about the update process.
http://m.intomobile.com/2014/01/28/...ed&utm_campaign=Feed:+IntoMobile+(IntoMobile)
Sounds like it's been there for a couple days. I read the same thing off the HTC site. This means nothing to us because Verizon is super lame!
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This could be the flu talking but, who knows.. Maybe all the backlash was actually heard at how ridiculous their update process is at Verizon.. I mean, we did just get a pretty big update.. and this already starting? You never know...
I'm surprised they are even still updating the phone its beyond a year and usually Verizon stops so we are forced to buy the latest and greatest device, unless you unlock and flash custom roms.
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thanks to our great devs we already have sense 5.5 android 4.4 rom! thank you to all the devs here!
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live2die said:
thanks to our great devs we already have sense 5.5 android 4.4 rom! thank you to all the devs here!
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It's gsm only so far.
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live2die said:
thanks to our great devs we already have sense 5.5 android 4.4 rom! thank you to all the devs here!
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your welcome.. you dint need HTC to update your device when I'm around
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It's gsm only so far.
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For now... Cdma is done just needs merging
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Zarboz said:
For now... Cdma is done just needs merging
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Would someone please for the love of God get this man a phone!!!! But seriously....can't wait.
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It's gsm only so far.
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your welcome.. you dint need HTC to update your device when I'm around
For now... Cdma is done just needs merging
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Will this ROM work on AT&T? I've been thinking about test driving their network and am in my research phase.
Verizon pushed the update back to HTC. It is now back to integration. Guess VZW didn't like something on the update
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Verizon pushed the update back to HTC. It is now back to integration. Guess VZW didn't like something on the update
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We will probably see the update late this year knowing Verizon. Thank God for custom roms and our awesome developers.
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Don't get too exicted
Knowing Verizon, we most likely won't even get the update until We're almost through the year. So don't get too hyped up about it. We'll be lucky if we even get it in the next 3 months.
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Yea - it was too soon
I have been tweeting Jason Mackenzie President at HTC, and he responded last night to expect the update by end of next week. I wish I knew how to paste twitter threads.
Ugh, nevermind. I guess he was confused and thought we were asking about HTCOne. Waiting for him to reply about DNA. So scratch what I said. Sorry.
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Ugh, nevermind. I guess he was confused and thought we were asking about HTCOne. Waiting for him to reply about DNA. So scratch what I said. Sorry.
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At least you get replies I've tried before and only gotten silence
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At least you get replies I've tried before and only gotten silence
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From Jason Mackenzie? He's responded every single time I've tweeted to him. Granted it is about 4 times total, but still.
badogg said:
From Jason Mackenzie? He's responded every single time I've tweeted to him. Granted it is about 4 times total, but still.
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yup Ive tweeted at him 2-3 times with no response
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From Jason Mackenzie? He's responded every single time I've tweeted to him. Granted it is about 4 times total, but still.
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Lucky. I asked him why the DNA got pushed back to "integration" no response
Checking his feed for news or responses and Verizon was the second to approve the One update. Now for HTC to make the DNA 4.4 that can go through approval... Which by history, I'd say might never happen given the age of the device compared to the One.
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Lucky. I asked him why the DNA got pushed back to "integration" no response
Checking his feed for news or responses and Verizon was the second to approve the One update. Now for HTC to make the DNA 4.4 that can go through approval... Which by history, I'd say might never happen given the age of the device compared to the One.
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Geez..... such a awesome phone... Still one of the best. Criminal that it is not updated already.

htc development status

Here the upgrade status of HTC device included HTC droid dna:
http://www.htc.com/us/go/htc-software-updates/
Yep. No change in DNA status. Still in 'integration.'
Who really cares we have custom roms that are solid.
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And so begins the joke that is HTC's promise of KK by Q1.
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Who really cares we have custom roms that are solid.
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sure, but for all 4.4.2 custom rom don't work voip call...
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And so begins the joke that is HTC's promise of KK by Q1.
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Actually HTC is aiming for the 2nd week of April for KitKat for DNA
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It was discussed in December early Q1, then miid March was the scheduled time for DNA OtA. It got pushed back another month?! bring on the flames, I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't get updated.
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We probably won't.
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Good thing we have some great devs around for this phone....
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Same
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Good thing we have some great devs around for this phone....
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Can I haz
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It's back to certification again so we may see if by the first week of April if it doesn't get pushed back again.
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Can't wait till Verizon releasess KitKat for the Droid.!!! Phone can deffinatley run it with zero issues with it on KitKat now.
Of course VZW is always a bit on the slow side of approving...
I think what vzw was/is doing is updating all their other newer devices first (to get people to upgrade) before they roll out the updates to us older phone
This is just what it seems to me now that they have worked on the other HTC devices we are hopefully next unless another device comes along
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I have zero reason to doubt that. After all it makes sense revenue-wise. Yeah the DNA is an "older" model. But it can still hang quite well with the newer ones. :good:
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I think what vzw was/is doing is updating all their other newer devices first (to get people to upgrade) before they roll out the updates to us older phone
This is just what it seems to me now that they have worked on the other HTC devices we are hopefully next unless another device comes along
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I'm in no rush for Verizon to push us Kit Kat. Look at some of the amazing Devs the HTC Droid DNA has. @nitsuj17 @santod040 @Zarboz , we don't need Verizon with them in the DNA forums.!!! I mean newer system files and a newer kernel with help the stability of the roms we have now and future releases. But besides that we are fine.!!
And I just joined the DNA forums but I've been in the android central forums and helped with many rims there so I have some experience with roms. And as soon as my post count goes up I might start a little something, something.!! A girl dev in the DNA forums.
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how long will it take?
So.... with the HTC One max updated to KK and Droid DNA in certification stage ... how long do you think it will take to be pushed to OTA and finally in our phones?
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So.... with the HTC One max updated to KK and Droid DNA in certification stage ... how long do you think it will take to be pushed to OTA and finally in our phones?
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Who knows Verizon is usually the one that causes updates to take forever. So when ever they finally feel it's ready and want to push it out is when we will see it. They said some time in April but I doubt it.
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