Impossible to find rear power button...FIXED - G2 General

So I often found myself hitting the volume buttons instead of power (when not using tap on), so I got a TPU case and tapped a rubber band to the inside of the case (across the opening) so the rubber band covers the power button when the case is on. The rubber band forms a sort of grippy button such that my finger naturally goes right to the power button. It does lift the case up a little bit in the back, but the case stays on fine. I'm sure instead of the rubber band, you could use a piece of silicon or rubber, and glue instead of tape if you wish too.
Just figured I might share this with people who may be having similar power-button-seaking frustrations

Sounds like a great idea for those with difficulty - for myself - I love the buttons on the back! It was the main reason I got the phone because I was tired of grabbing my phone on the sides & always either changing the volume up or down or turning the phone off, etc. etc. Therefore, for me, the buttons on the back are just great & it almost gives me a sense of freedom to handle the phone without hitting the buttons on the sides.
However, I can see some people having a problem. Also, they could just feel with their finger, the bottom of the tpu case cutout & know that the bottom is volume down & then over the hump, is the volume up.

I stippled the power button on mine.
Example of stippling on a shotgun grip. The surface around it is how it normally is.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7262/6887983878_1d68bdd506_z.jpg
I do this for a lot of my other stuff, so I though I'd give it a try with some really fine stippling. It's great, gives me immediate clarity to which key is the right one, plus I can just slide my finger down and when it stops on the rugged surface I'm in the right spot. Also works with gloves, of course, as they also grip it.

First of all the title of this thread is pretty stupid. Who actually has trouble finding the power button on this phone?
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By finding he obviously refers to when you're holding the phone its not as obvious as it can be with the button on the side. You sometimes find yourself hitting what you think is the power button, but might be an edge next to it or such.
If you don't have the issue that's great, but a lot of others do, especially since most of us are used to using our thumb for it, on sidebutton.
PS. If you're going to do the "First of all"-approach, you should probably have more than one point to present.

shook187 said:
First of all the title of this thread is pretty stupid. Who actually has trouble finding the power button on this phone?
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Your comment was a game changer. Thanks for playing.
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shook187 said:
First of all the title of this thread is pretty stupid. Who actually has trouble finding the power button on this phone?
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You sir, win the XDA stupidity award! (That is very hard to do on this site! So many stupid people!) Congrats! What do you win??? A swift kick in the a$$
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[Q] Sensitive Home, Search key..constant launching in landscape mode

When i'm in landscape mode taking photos, playing games.. i find that my palm is accidentally either launching the recent apps screen overlay (from pressing home key a few seconds) or launching the search key. I don't feel like im over doing it. I rest my palm on the bottom right corner. When i now pay attention, I try to hold the Evo 3D in landscape mode with my hands in two C formations facing one another.. so that i dont accidentally launch those quick keys.
Are any of you having this issue too? it's annoying to frame a photo.. and then the Recent Apps screen keeps coming up and I have to back up out of it. Would a case be helpful? possibly looking at one of the TPU cases when they get it back in stock. is there a way to adjust the sensitivity of the keys?
i've done all the OTA's available..
It's normal. Happened on my EVO 4G all the frakking time. You just need to be careful not to touch the capacitive button. You don't actually need to touch the button to activate capacitive button/screens, only be a few microns away.
I also have that problem I'm hoping root will fix it
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Kilmar said:
It's normal. Happened on my EVO 4G all the frakking time. You just need to be careful not to touch the capacitive button. You don't actually need to touch the button to activate capacitive button/screens, only be a few microns away.
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ok thanks that is unfortunate.. that is exactly what is happening.. just barely a tap on the lower edge triggers it. Wish they could've moved the sensor away form the edge.
My otter box defender stopped that from happening to me. I know this may not be a solution you may like but I'm just throwing it out there. I need the case due to me working on cars as a hobby and I will lay down on my phone while under a car not even thinking about it.
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My otter box defender stopped that from happening to me. I know this may not be a solution you may like but I'm just throwing it out there. I need the case due to me working on cars as a hobby and I will lay down on my phone while under a car not even thinking about it.
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cool,, there is some hope.. just ordered a TPU case..im hoping the bottom edge will have enough clearance.
plutonium7750 said:
cool,, there is some hope.. just ordered a TPU case..im hoping the bottom edge will have enough clearance.
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Just wanted to update.. having a TPU case with the raised ridge on the bottom defintely is helping prevent the unwanted "ghost" launches from the Recent Items and Quick Search capacitive buttons.
ssojyeti2 said:
I also have that problem I'm hoping root will fix it
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Root is going to stop your skin from touching the buttons?

overly sensitive capacitive buttons?

the capacitive buttons on my 3d are ridiculously sensitive! i dont even have to make contact with the glass to make them register as a button press, hovering over them is enough....
its getting rather annoying and im hoping the screen protector i ordered would help it a bit but does anyone else have the same problem?
Nope but I have a zagg on mine... Sometimes it seems I have to press the home button more firmly than others tho
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Yup, hovering will sometimes trigger a press.. isn't a big deal to me though.
vinterchaos said:
Yup, hovering will sometimes trigger a press.. isn't a big deal to me though.
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it is for me because the search button gets pressed just holding the phone because of my fat palm bumps
thesparky007 said:
it is for me because the search button gets pressed just holding the phone because of my fat palm bumps
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Yeah. Pretty freaking sensitive for me as well. Can be annoying sometimes.
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i noticed it too
Also noticed that sometimes when i press, it senses my finger a bit below where i touch. but maybe it's just a problem i have with my fingers :/
I have the same problem with mine too, and i have a ZAGG on it. It annoys the crap outta me. But what can we do?
even with the screen protector, i still find that hovering will prompt a keystroke. another qualm that i have with the phone is the placement of the sensitive power button up top.. being left handed, i seem to be finding it often by mistake.
That's the one thing I never liked about HTC phones, they love to use capacitive buttons. I prefer a mechanical one that can't so easily accidently be touched.
My capacitive buttons are also very sensitive (just like my power button ). Sometimes it is annoying when I bump/hover over the home key in the middle of what I'm doing. Over all, I think the entire screen is more sensitive than the Evo OG, because there have been a number of times when my screen has registered a touch when I thought I was only hovering.
Maybe there's something like a build.prop value that we can adjust for touch sensitivity when we get rooted.
oldjackbob said:
Maybe there's something like a build.prop value that we can adjust for touch sensitivity when we get rooted.
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Thats what i was wondering too.
slo895.0 said:
Thats what i was wondering too.
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i hope so too because this hinders regular use quite a bit
The capacitive buttons are overly sensitive with my screen protector on, too. It seems like the buttons have too much juice running to them altogether. (Being too bright and too sensitive.)
On another note; Everyone always talks about their over-sensitive power button, but mine is completely the opposite and hard to find and push sometimes. Especially in the otterbox commuter case, which I'd have to recommend if you have that issue.

HTC changed the Rezound's design?! Lets look at some evidence shall we...

The power and volume buttons on the rezound are a hindrance at best, poorly designed and implemented.
I mean come on, flush buttons for critical functions... what was they thinking?!
Sure flush buttons can work, but they must be on the facing side of the device and be clearly visible is some way. Like the power button on many devices. (my laptop for example) They at least need to be able to be found easily tactically.
But the buttons on the rezound are thin, leaving little room for tactile differentiation and they are also placed on the side of the device where you can not see them without actively turning the phone and looking. So yeah, they are small pain and annoyance in an otherwise fine phone.
But was this always so? Was the buttons like this from the beginning and all through in house use testing and never discovered... or was it a last minute design change that wasn't thought through?
Lets look at some evidence shall we. Stock photos of the rezound in official HTC accessories.
Lets see...
Exhibit 1: HTC Silicone Skin view A
Exhibit 2: HTC Silicone Skin view B
Exhibit 3: HTC TPU Case view A
Exhibit 4: HTC TPU Case view B
Exhibit 5: HTC Extended Battery and Battery Door
This is only a few examples, there are others.
As you can see, these Rezounds all have buttons that protrude from the device slightly, just enough to allow tactile location of these critical controls.
It may just all be a trick of the angles and lighting when the pictures were taken, but they seem to protrude too far for that.
I believe these devices are early build units destined for in house testing and use of the final design. For some strange reason though, they changed the buttons to a flush mount for the actual production run.
Sad seeing as how great the phone is otherwise.
I have no issues with the power button and volume rocker. Once you get used to it they perform just fine imo.
Hmm. I plan on getting the extended battery and I am wondering how the cover will effect the flush buttons but in the meantime I'm a fan of the design. I'm already use to them and find myself trying to turn on my incredible on the right.
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I have had mine for a few days, I am getting better, but I would still appreciate a better tactile feel for the button placement.
More nitpicking.
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Marine6680 said:
I have had mine for a few days, I am getting better, but I would still appreciate a better tactile feel for the button placement.
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well i totally agree that the volume button suck LOL....i use a TPU case and it really sucks to adjust the volume witht eh case on. Now witht he Otterbox Commuter i can press the buttons even easier witht he case on compared to being off...All i can say really is, Is this your first HTC DEVICE (not being mean either)?????....in the recent years ive noticed HTC's buttons have gotten more and more flush with the Housing. Like the EVO 4G, the volume buttons were great, but the POwer button was a pain in the ass. The EVO 3D buttons were horrifying. The were slightly raised this time but hard as hell to press. But I try not to worry about the buttosn so much. Its gets people thinking a little too much and then they start to think about returning it HEHE. Id say if they start to get real frustrating for you, maybe u can get a replacement and see if another one differs from the one u have now?....thats what I did with my EVO 3D and the second one was a world of difference...
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well i totally agree that the volume button suck LOL....i use a TPU case and it really sucks to adjust the volume witht eh case on. Now witht he Otterbox Commuter i can press the buttons even easier witht he case on compared to being off...All i can say really is, Is this your first HTC DEVICE (not being mean either)?????....in the recent years ive noticed HTC's buttons have gotten more and more flush with the Housing. Like the EVO 4G, the volume buttons were great, but the POwer button was a pain in the ass. The EVO 3D buttons were horrifying. The were slightly raised this time but hard as hell to press. But I try not to worry about the buttosn so much. Its gets people thinking a little too much and then they start to think about returning it HEHE. Id say if they start to get real frustrating for you, maybe u can get a replacement and see if another one differs from the one u have now?....thats what I did with my EVO 3D and the second one was a world of difference...
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I'm like you. I have the Otterbox Commuter case and this is a non-issue for me.
There is no difference.
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The button on my first rezound protruded,and had good response with tpu case. My second rezound buttons are flushed , but really is not a problem so I enjoy the phone.
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Some rezounds have buttons that pop out a bit and some rezounds have buttons that are flush with the bezel. Not an actual difference in the devices, it is a difference in the plastic pieces(volume rocker/power button). If you open up the device you will see what I am referring to.
Being a incredible 2 user for ovet a year...I stoll can't get used to volume buttons on the opposite side
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I hate the flush buttons... Otterbox fixed that issue for me tho
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My buttons look just like the pics. I can see the protrusion and feel it if I run my finger along the edge.
The volume rocker is in the same position as my old phone so it works great for me.
I would have preferred the power button on the side of the phone as I think it would be easier to push it one handed. Like right below the volume rocker so I could press it easily with my middle finger when holding the phone in my left hand. As it is, sometimes I unintentionally adjust the volume at the same time as hitting the power button due to holding the phone with my other fingers in that area. I'm sure I will get used to it and my hand position will adjust and it will become second nature for me to avoid doing that.
At first the buttons were annoying, but I have gotten used to them!!
I take it you're in the graduate program "Human Factors& Ergonomics".
This is my first smartphone, the buttons work great.
I wish they offered phones in different varieties for different sized people. for instance, I'm tall and have big hands so these 'small' phones like the Rezound are a bit if a pain to use. i'd like a much bigger phone that fits in my hand better and is easier to use the touchscreen(I keep accidentally hitting the wrong buttons/links on the screen).
The power and volume buttons i agree are difficult.
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This is far from my first HTC device... and not my first android. I have been around since the G1 days and followed the development since early 2007. All have been HTC phones.
The buttons are just a bit of a pain and a little more thought would have been nice. I love the phone otherwise though.
I did a slight mod to my TPU case that helps a lot with using the volume buttons.
I am a fan of good well thought out design. I am not a fan of design for designs sake. The rezound borders that line in a few places but overall I like it.
This was mostly just an observation I noticed and thought I would share.
The only thing that annoys me I'd that I'd like for the headphone jack to be on the opposite side. When I put my phone in landscape I turn it to the left so the buttons are by my right hand. When I have headphones plugged in, I have to rotate it the other way so the plug doesn't get in the way. It's just a minor annoyance.

Power button fragile?

On my SGS3 the power button seems a bit fragile, if you click almost on the edge of the button it will twitch, twist and will not click, that does not happen on the GNex, the button shape is similar, but even when clicking on the edge, the button is solid and will click. Is it just my phone that has some problem on the button or is it a "problem" with all SGS3?
DarknessWarrior said:
On my SGS3 the power button seems a bit fragile, if you click almost on the edge of the button it will twitch, twist and will not click, that does not happen on the GNex, the button shape is similar, but even when clicking on the edge, the button is solid and will click. Is it just my phone that has some problem on the button or is it a "problem" with all SGS3?
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I don't have any issues with it. Try comparing it with others at the store/your friends and see.
It's absolute edges are somewhat unclickable but on the other hand it's hard to press there anyway - you will grab the middle anyway.
Should you decide to use a protective cover (recommended ^^) then it won't be an issue anyway since such additional layers disperse your press across a wider surface.
d4fseeker said:
It's absolute edges are somewhat unclickable but on the other hand it's hard to press there anyway - you will grab the middle anyway.
Should you decide to use a protective cover (recommended ^^) then it won't be an issue anyway since such additional layers disperse your press across a wider surface.
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i'm using the flipcover, so i can't use any of those protective covers.
thanks for the replies, i will try to find someone who has it to compare lol
Well, atleast it isn't getting stuck like mine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920938
lolhard123 said:
Well, atleast it isn't getting stuck like mine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920938
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if i press it on the top or on the bottom it twists like that, but doesn't get stuck
Well you're lucky mine gets stuck.
But that's normal I think, just put it in a case that covers the buttons and you'll forget all about it.

Poll: Rear buttons; Love them or Hate them?

I'm curious where people rank the rear buttons on the G2 in practice. If you have the phone and have been using it a reasonable amount of time, what's your take on the button placement compared to typical placements of the keys on the side/top etc.
I would prefer side ones. I can't tell which is which on the Verizon version and have to flip the phone around to see
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love them. much better than top/side buttons. it just makes sense.
I absolutely love the buttons on the back. For me, the buttons, thin bezel and knock-knock feature all make for a unique and fun experience. Love it.
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I rarely use the buttons at all anymore..... But, the few instances I do, I have to turn the phone over because the Verizon ones are so small. I prefer power on the right, volume on the left.
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ffejy462 said:
I rarely use the buttons at all anymore..... But, the few instances I do, I have to turn the phone over because the Verizon ones are so small. I prefer power on the right, volume on the left.
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Thank god for Knock-On, because I rarely touch the volume keys (Tasker automates it for me for most situations) and I have a Power button on my AOKP navbar as I usually avoid the power buttons on phones so I don't wear the out (usually do volume-wake).
the rear keys are extremely useful when i listen to music with wired third party earphone; while my phone is in my pocket, and i want to skip/rewind the songs.
i just put the rear side facing outside, and whenever i feel like changing the song, the button is always within reach without pulling the phone out of my pocket.
unlike most phones with side volume/power key.
and of course i used gravity box to enable those functions.
Rear buttons: fully functional, no accidentally pressing volume n power when holding the sides of phone anymore, easier to take selfie snapshots, knock knock reduces the power button from getting worn out fast, power button doubles as a notification light and glows during a phone call (looks cool at night) and also makes the phone unique (if you're into that).
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They're cool but taking a screenshot is a pain.
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They're cool but taking a screenshot is a pain.
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I always use QuickMemo to take screen shots.
Absolutely love them. I have a case so I keep my index finger on the edge of the button cutout (essentially making sure my finger is by default on the volume down) and then I can easily find which button is which without thinking twice. My hands aren't that big and it's still very comfortable. My dad was a bit skeptical about it and he picked up the phone and noticed his finger just went to the buttons and realized it actually makes sense and isn't just a gimmicky idea.
I would like to see rear buttons as a rule in future phones.
Using for a week and quite comfortable with them. I love knock-on. Problem trying to zoom in camera though!!
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Definitely more love.
1) I constantly use a Bluetooth headphone so adjust the volume while the phone is in my front pocket is easy
2) Knock knock is way too cool
3) I seldom even use the power button at all with so much convenience built into the G2 stock UI (Korean F320S) Anyway Kit Kat is out for F320S
What back buttons?
Honestly, I don't even notice the back buttons since I use the knock knock feature.
The only times I used the buttons is for volume adjustment when I'm watching a video. Even then, I don't even see it as an inconvenience.
I have slight OCD so I avoid using the buttons so they don't waste. They seem as if the paint would rub off after to much use.
kolembo said:
Using for a week and quite comfortable with them. I love knock-on. Problem trying to zoom in camera though!!
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I thought the "Take picture with power button" function in the stock ROM was hilarious; who could possibly do that? Selfies I guess, but using the rear camera, that'd be almost impossible with any kind of normal position on the phone.
Esteef said:
Honestly, I don't even notice the back buttons since I use the knock knock feature.
The only times I used the buttons is for volume adjustment when I'm watching a video. Even then, I don't even see it as an inconvenience.
I have slight OCD so I avoid using the buttons so they don't waste. They seem as if the paint would rub off after to much use.
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I have to agree. Knock-on is one of the most unexpectedly awesome (for me at least) features I've had in a phone in a long time, and I almost never use my power button.
I must say that it's a good thing knock-on is great though, cause the button layout on my VS980 is terrible. It seems like a simple fix like moving the power button next to the volume buttons would have fixed this, and made the buttons more distinct feeling. Putting it in the middle of the volume buttons make it impossible to tell which button you are pressing.
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They're cool but taking a screenshot is a pain.
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i find it much easier. i use my one index finger to hold down both power and volume and bam, pic taken, nice and simple.
I absolutely love those bastards at the back of the phone. First because it allows the bezel to be almost non existent and 2 cause it gives the phone an identity. I love them.
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really awesome, I love them so much

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