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Just a company who thought they could add Google play without permission. Google will shoot down their request and people will have to sideload like we do on gg
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...you're on XDA. And you're worried about play store access.
I reiterate...
...you're on XDA? And worried about play store access?
I'll make something that roots the device and sideloads the app store and google services all in one button. Don't worry your pretty little head. If that's the only thing they get wrong, then it's still the best device to date.
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...you're on XDA. And you're worried about play store access.
I reiterate...
...you're on XDA? And worried about play store access?
I'll make something that roots the device and sideloads the app store and google services all in one button. Don't worry your pretty little head. If that's the only thing they get wrong, then it's still the best device to date.
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That's not my point! They lied to the consumer and cannot be trusted as a whole. They have been funded on kickstarter based on a lie, not just a small lie, but a giant fraudulent, refund my $ you bastards sized lie.
Root or no root, they sold it as a Google Play store accessible device. And it isn't!
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That's not my point! They lied to the consumer and cannot be trusted as a whole. They have been funded on kickstarter based on a lie, not just a small lie, but a giant fraudulent, refund my $ you bastards sized lie.
Root or no root, they sold it as a Google Play store accessible device. And it isn't!
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They're still working on it, actually, and my understanding is that no 240x240 screen sized device will be capable of supporting it under android 4.3, so they may have it out when they update to 4.3, pending Google's say-so.
So a device that does not have certification for a version of Android that doesn't even exist yet is a fraud?
As far as it not coming on the Android 4.2.2 version, that was public knowledge back in early September.
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"While all efforts are made to ensure timely completion of software functions, software development too can have unforseeable delays which may result in software functions being delivered in an update after a product has shipped."
On the Omate KS page since Aug 21st 2013
Hell. At least they updated you about it vs threatening folks publicly when ever anybody brought up any real issues.
BAWWWWWWWWWW QQ more. This isn't new knowledge and you're an idiot for thinking a company is a fraud because they hit a hiccup they didn't count on when bringing their product to the US.
This is XDA. You're complaining in the wrong place.
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That's not my point! They lied to the consumer and cannot be trusted as a whole. They have been funded on kickstarter based on a lie, not just a small lie, but a giant fraudulent, refund my $ you bastards sized lie.
Root or no root, they sold it as a Google Play store accessible device. And it isn't!
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Are you serious?!? Name at least one crowdfunding campaign that treated their backers with as much respect, which had as many detailed updates, which had stayed on schedule, which has worked so hard around the globe? They came up front about Play store hiccup and even offered an alternative of another on-line store until they will resolve licensing issue with Google (which btw they are working on actively).
I don't understand everyone defending this "upfront" action they decided to take after a Google exec put the kabash on the Play store on this device last week. But I work for a manufacturer of medical devices and if we advertise something to be in our product it has to be there or we would get our assess sued into bankruptcy. My point was that they should have never advertised the device as a Google Play store capable device if they didn't have all their ducks in a row. Business wise, it's unethical and in other markets even criminal.
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Probably because we aren't assholes.
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Probably because we aren't assholes.
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No need for name calling man. I'm just trying to wrap my head around this situation.
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I wasn't calling you one. I will say none of your posts indicated you were trying to understand this so much as belittling those who don't agree with you.
If you want to discuss it, let's discuss it. Don't patronize people.
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I wasn't calling you one. I will say none of your posts indicated you were trying to understand this so much as belittling those who don't agree with you.
If you want to discuss it, let's discuss it. Don't patronize people.
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I certainly was not trying to belittle anyone in the XDA universe.
But the solution of sideloading the Play Store apk is unsettling to me. I own an OUYA and was an early adopter of one of the first Android tablets, the Viewsonic G-book. I have also been rooting and roming since the DROID 1. While ROMS and sideloading is great, it's just unstable and in some situations becomes a full-time job of keeping up with updates and fixes.
I love messing with my devices as much as anyone else here, but for once I'd like to just buy an Android device that I didn't feel the need to have to change in someway, and spending upwards to $300 on an Android device in 2013 with its fair amount of promises should deliver on them.
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I agree with you completely and feel the same way but we need to draw the line here at calling it fraud.
I'm comfortable enough with side loading that it isn't an issue but the developer model is what is being discussed. November 30th is a long ways away in shipping terms and until they definitively say no I just think it's better not to get up in arms about it. Let them do their thing. Believe me when I say that if they screw this up they will sink.
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I don't understand everyone defending this "upfront" action they decided to take after a Google exec put the kabash on the Play store on this device last week.
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ORLY. AGAIN, the play store (Google Services) issue was a matter of public knowledge for over a month.
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My point was that they should have never advertised the device as a Google Play store capable device if they didn't have all their ducks in a row. Business wise, it's unethical and in other markets even criminal.
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Should they have removed the mention of Play Store being included back in early Sept? In my opinion yes. The release that recently came out should have also been done back then as well. "unethical"? Maybe. Criminal? No. The disclaimer that was a the bottom of their KS since day one covers their ass. Period, end of story, thanks for playing.
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I agree with you completely and feel the same way but we need to draw the line here at calling it fraud.
I'm comfortable enough with side loading that it isn't an issue but the developer model is what is being discussed. November 30th is a long ways away in shipping terms and until that definitively say no I just think it's better not to get up in arms about it. Let them do their thing. Believe me when I say that if they screw this up they will sink.
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All the KS units are in the clear. The pre-orders may be another matter.
In my book, the campaign of AI Watch is fraudulent. Regarding Omate, I have a pretty good feeling that even if they would have published this disclaimer while campaign was active - they still would have gotten as much supporters/backers because for a lot of the people not including Google play store is not a show stopper. With a ways around it (sideloading), and alternative store, and active updates about working with Google to resolve this officially, I still say they built a strong community trust.
Btw, with Google planning to release their own smartwatch and probably a pressure from tanking Gear, something tells me there are political reasons for Google to continue delaying their decision. Just my conspiracy theory
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In my book, the campaign of AI Watch is fraudulent.
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At least Omate have admitted that Google Play support won't be there out the box, unlike AI Smartwatch, which is in the same position. They are still giving the impression it comes with Play store.
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I think its really funny how people are complaining so much about it. i mean i am disappointed my self as its part of why i've pre ordered the 8gb 1gb omate truesmart but it wasn't the main reason the main reason is because its the best smart watch there is so far. I'm no programmer but I can still install apps etc so it wont be too hard for people to install them, them self's once someone provides us with them to install.
as for no smart watches coming with play store i have the omate prototype on my wrist right now (re-branded as simvalley aw-414.go) and it has play store built into the rom. i know because i factory reset it and it was still there. that being said i hope they make an update for the one I'm wearing right now as it has some terrible bugs on the ui that make it not so good for using some apps show multiple copy's of their icons and you can not remove any of them without uninstalling said apps, after you put so many apps on it some start to vanish and can only be seen if you search for them, it looks like they tried hybrid the app drawer and the home screens as their is no home screens so no widgets or only showing apps you want to see. it also has folders but their useless as you can only put 3 apps in them. it becomes useless if i install a different launcher to fix the other issues. do you think omate firmware would work on it ? because the firmware thats on it says omate_hw2.0_20130923.1 and the model number says omate too.
if someone releases firmware for it that works properly it would be not so bad and very similar to the lower spec omate internals wise? as it seems to be reasonable for its specs if you ignore those software bugs that should have been fixed before release.
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I think its really funny how people are complaining so much about it. i mean i am disappointed my self as its part of why i've pre ordered the 8gb 1gb omate truesmart but it wasn't the main reason the main reason is because its the best smart watch there is so far. I'm no programmer but I can still install apps etc so it wont be too hard for people to install them, them self's once someone provides us with them to install.
as for no smart watches coming with play store i have the omate prototype on my wrist right now (re-branded as simvalley aw-414.go) and it has play store built into the rom. i know because i factory reset it and it was still there. that being said i hope they make an update for the one I'm wearing right now as it has some terrible bugs on the ui that make it not so good for using some apps show multiple copy's of their icons and you can not remove any of them without uninstalling said apps, after you put so many apps on it some start to vanish and can only be seen if you search for them, it looks like they tried hybrid the app drawer and the home screens as their is no home screens so no widgets or only showing apps you want to see. it also has folders but their useless as you can only put 3 apps in them. it becomes useless if i install a different launcher to fix the other issues. do you think omate firmware would work on it ? because the firmware thats on it says omate_hw2.0_20130923.1 and the model number says omate too.
if someone releases firmware for it that works properly it would be not so bad and very similar to the lower spec omate internals wise? as it seems to be reasonable for its specs if you ignore those software bugs that should have been fixed before release.
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I'm sure if it doesn't work right out of the box, we can make you a rom from the Omate that will work quite easily.
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I'm sure if it doesn't work right out of the box, we can make you a rom from the Omate that will work quite easily.
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It does not sadly. I mean its still useable but the issues it does have make it not very good to use so it really needs a rom that works properly.
the rom thats on it is custom build version: OMATE_HW2.0_20130923.115849 and the model number is listed as OMATE.
but yeah I'd be really grateful if someone does make a custom rom for it that works properly and tells me which google play store version to install and were to get the apk etc, I'm also guessing they would need to make a rooting app for it too so it could be flashed tho right?
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Just read this article and hoping it's not true;
http://www.prisonplanet.com/google-shopping-censors-all-gun-ammo-accessories-results.html
I hope its not true because I love my android devices, if it is true, I will not support google anymore. I will not pay someone that would obviously advocte for no guns and violate someones freedomes to pursue it.
So if anyone can confirm or deny it please post.....
Ironically, most of the news from that site and infowars.com are true.
BTW, if you are not like Google to mess around your search results, use other search engines or go to your fiream supplies stores directly. There are sites where you can buy firearms, and you still can go to the site directly.
I also not have much problem with Google/CIA, even I am using ANdroid phone and tablet. I always make sure that all the info in my devices are not sensitive or private.
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Ironically, most of the news from that site and infowars.com are true.
BTW, if you are not like Google to mess around your search results, use other search engines or go to your fiream supplies stores directly. There are sites where you can buy firearms, and you still can go to the site directly.
I also not have much problem with Google/CIA, even I am using ANdroid phone and tablet. I always make sure that all the info in my devices are not sensitive or private.
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I don't understand why you would patronize a company that you don't trust, advocates for the removal of our rights and is actively working toward that goal? I would rather jump ship to another OEM.... given whats going on these days politically this cannot be worked around or forgiven... if its true of course...
I went to shopper last night and was able to find any itemfor a weapon. Guess we will have to wait and see.
It's pretty bad that you can search "how to hide a body" and get results but you can't find a legal ammunition to buy.
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I don't understand why you would patronize a company that you don't trust, advocates for the removal of our rights and is actively working toward that goal? I would rather jump ship to another OEM.... given whats going on these days politically this cannot be worked around or forgiven... if its true of course...
I went to shopper last night and was able to find any itemfor a weapon. Guess we will have to wait and see.
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I just did a search for ammo, and it came up with no results...only on the Google shopping though. When doing a google search, it found all kinds of stuff. I think they are just stating that their shopping division will no longer sell or advertise...that is fine, and their right, as long as they do not block searches, i don't have a problem with it. It is their right as a company not to sell or advertise a product or genre of products.
First off, Alex Jones is a nutcase. He takes facts and turns them into tin foil hat wearing, Koolaid drinking conspiracy theories. He's mostly to be disregarded.
However, Google is doing this. They have a "progressive" agenda and are well-known to engage in censorship... and have been for years. I'm not going to turn this into a political discussion, so you can research that on your own.
Bing doesn't censor ammo and weapon searches.
So Google choosing to no longer sell guns some how takes your rights away? Considering they are a businesses and have the RIGHT to do so...
You can still use Google to find places to buy guns. They just want no part of that. Sounds pretty damn American to me!
You want to protest them for expressing their own opinions and beliefs? That's not American *edit* Yea it is American to do that. You just look like an @$$
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AllenConder said:
So Google choosing to no longer sell guns some how takes your rights away? Considering they are a businesses and have the RIGHT to do so...
You can still use Google to find places to buy guns. They just want no part of that. Sounds pretty damn American to me!
You want to protest them for expressing their own opinions and beliefs? That's not American *edit* Yea it is American to do that. You just look like an @$$
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Google has never sold guns.
Before this thread goes any further, I have only one thing to say: what almost everyone has said so far about Google censoring ammunition and weapons has been taken too far out of context and does not accurately represent the truth. They have ONLY, and I repeat ONLY been censored from Google Shopping, not any regular Google search. Do a Google search on "ammunition" and the first place that pops up is a website where you can buy ammunition. Search "where to buy weapons" and you get a myriad of gun shops. This is in no way infringing upon your freedoms, they're a business and they can operate however they want. They also still allow you to search for those results in general search queries anyways, so they're not completely censoring them. It's just against their policies in Google Shopping to allow for weapons or ammunition to be advertised through their services, likely because they do not want to be affiliated with such types of businesses.
Furthermore, this has absolutely nothing to do with Android or the Droid Razr, so it doesn't even belong in this section. This has to do with Google and how you're upset with it over this decision.
I think Google is doing the right thing.
Only idiots want weapons for private use (sry, but it's true. Look how many people get shot in the USA and compare those numbers to any other country in the world)
Nevertheless: This has nothing to do with the razr. Maybe you should've posted this in the general section of the whole forum, not the general section of the razr forum.
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I think Google is doing the right thing.
Only idiots want weapons for private use (sry, but it's true. Look how many people get shot in the USA and compare those numbers to any other country in the world)
Nevertheless: This has nothing to do with the razr. Maybe you should've posted this in the general section of the whole forum, not the general section of the razr forum.
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Yeah, that's why I try to avoid political discussions on this forum... there's always that one guy who has to say something like this.
Google created and controls Android. Google indirectly receives money from our phone purchases. There's an obvious connections between our Razrs and Google.
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Yeah, that's why I try to avoid political discussions on this forum... there's always that one guy who has to say something like this.
Google created and controls Android. Google indirectly receives money from our phone purchases. There's an obvious connections between our Razrs and Google.
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Google receives no money from our phone purchases, the manufacturers do... well, I guess they do now since they own Motorola, but generalizing to Android is not correct. They only make money from Motorola phone purchases. It doesn't mean that by buying Motorola phones we're supporting this decision, though. That's an inane conclusion to come to. Yes, we're supporting Google, but it does not immediately correspond to us supporting every single decision they make.
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I'm a fellow Nexus 10 owner. I love my device, but I'm a bit tired of facing applications that are low-resolution and unoptimized for the incredible display we have on the Nexus 10. Even tablet-optimized apps are lacking. Aren't you frustrated? Hence, I thought we could do something about it as a community.
Which is the purpose of this thread!
Here's how it will work. This first post will serve as a compilation of all the petitions made to any and all developers to optimize their applications for tablets, and also the Nexus 10's display. Any subsequent posts in this thread shall be for petition requests and discussion, which I will personally put together and post up to the petition site being used for this purpose (Care2 as of this thread's posting). I will then add a direct link to that petition to this thread, sorted by category. Feel free to make any suggestions or to criticize! I will also start us off with a petition I have already created myself: to the developers of the Bloons TD series of games, Ninja Kiwi.
I'll try to keep things simple! Keep on topic, please, and try your best to sign each and every petition. Its the only way we'll be able to actually push developers to optimize their applications for tablets like ours! So, without further ado, let us begin!
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Bloons TD 5 - Optimize Bloons TD 5 for Android Tablets
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Facebook - Optimize Facebook for Android Tablets
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This is likely Google's job, not ours. In any event, Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter are three that immediately spring to mind. Not because they are low resolution -- not sure what you mean there -- but because the layouts are so clearly designed for smaller screens. I shouldn't have to opt for Friendcaster, Tabstagram, and Plume.
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JasW said:
This is likely Google's job, not ours. In any event, Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter are three that immediately spring to mind. Not because they are low resolution -- not sure what you mean there -- but because the layouts are so clearly designed for smaller screens. I shouldn't have to opt for Friendcaster, Tabstagram, and Plume.
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No, it's the app devs job. The point of this is to show them that there is a need for this to be done by enough of their user base to merit the work hours it will take them to implement it. What they don't know ends up hurting us. It is actually an excellent idea.
A dedicated Facebook app should be a priority. My mate has an iPad and I found myself looking longingly at the sickness of the dedicated app. Something needs to be done to put a stop to this sick perversion!
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This is likely Google's job, not ours.
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I would tend to agree with Brees on this one, which you could probably guess. I think Brees put it excellently!
brees75 said:
No, it's the app devs job. The point of this is to show them that there is a need for this to be done by enough of their user base to merit the work hours it will take them to implement it. What they don't know ends up hurting us. It is actually an excellent idea.
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Its the job of the application developers to get out proper apps. Google has done TONS of work already. Now we need to show these guys that we, the users, actually care about proper tablet applications, and that it is worth the investment.
Thats why I created this thread - if we don't do something about it, no-one will! I'm going to try to get as many signatures as possible, and I'm going to spread this thread across multiple forums if necessary. AndroidTablets.net springs to mind.
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A dedicated Facebook app should be a priority. My mate has an iPad and I found myself looking longingly at the sickness of the dedicated app. Something needs to be done to put a stop to this sick perversion!
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Exactly! I'm tired of this sort of thing. This needs to be put to a stop. I'll create the petition.
Like previously said all those social apps need optimization for sure. And the xda app needs optimization. I think there's an HD version but it costs money
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No, it's the app devs job. The point of this is to show them that there is a need for this to be done by enough of their user base to merit the work hours it will take them to implement it. What they don't know ends up hurting us. It is actually an excellent idea.
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I would tend to agree with Brees on this one, which you could probably guess. I think Brees put it excellently!Its the job of the application developers to get out proper apps. Google has done TONS of work already. Now we need to show these guys that we, the users, actually care about proper tablet applications, and that it is worth the investment.
Thats why I created this thread - if we don't do something about it, no-one will! I'm going to try to get as many signatures as possible, and I'm going to spread this thread across multiple forums if necessary. AndroidTablets.net springs to mind.
Exactly! I'm tired of this sort of thing. This needs to be put to a stop. I'll create the petition.
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You'll excuse me if I seem overly cynical about this. I used to be a BlackBerry user. Well over two years ago, some folks on Crackberry launched a campaign to bombard Reid Hastings, the president of Netflix, with email to get Netflix on the BlackBerry platform (the OS 6 devices like the Torch had then fairly recently come out). If you are familiar with Crackberry, you know that they are a rabid, fanatical horde. Nothing happened. Then came the petitions -- change.org and the like. They are still going on more than two years plus later, and despite the fact that BlackBerry now has quite decent phones and a decent OS in BB10, there is still no Netflix on the platform.
EDIT: Holy! I already have 4 signatures for Facebook on Android Tablets and I haven't even posted it anywhere yet! That shows something.
C'mon guys, I'll post it up in the main thread. Vote for it now!
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You'll excuse me if I seem overly cynical about this. I used to be a BlackBerry user. Well over two years ago, some folks on Crackberry launched a campaign to bombard Reid Hastings, the president of Netflix, with email to get Netflix on the BlackBerry platform (the OS 6 devices like the Torch had then fairly recently come out). If you are familiar with Crackberry, you know that they are a rabid, fanatical horde. Nothing happened. Then came the petitions -- change.org and the like. They are still going on more than two years plus later, and despite the fact that BlackBerry now has quite decent phones and a decent OS in BB10, there is still no Netflix on the platform.
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I think your points make sense, but they aren't a valid reason really to cause Netflix to develop for BB10. The marketshare simply isn't there.
With Android, however, the market has shown that it is a valid platform (and I hate to say that as if it was an option - c'mon. ANDROID IS AWESOME! ); it makes sense for them to update, and it only helps us out. We need to show them that we actually CARE. If they understand that, then they will update for us without question. If they have any business sense, that is.
Same with BB10 (which is, quite frankly, a very nice OS - it even has NFC Beaming support between BB and Android devices). If they had the market AND Crackberry screaming like it was/is, they would get a proper app quite quickly.
This deserved a quick update post: the petitions for Facebook and Instagram are now online. Facebook already has a few votes!
I just signed Facebook one.
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What's the address part for?
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What's the address part for?
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So that you can be stalked lol. No need to put you real address I made one up and it didn't even check if it was right
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What's the address part for?
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Yeah, what abdel said lol.
Its mostly to confirm that you're a real person with a real place to live, that kinda stuff.
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EDIT: Holy! I already have 4 signatures for Facebook on Android Tablets and I haven't even posted it anywhere yet! That shows something.
C'mon guys, I'll post it up in the main thread. Vote for it now!
I think your points make sense, but they aren't a valid reason really to cause Netflix to develop for BB10. The marketshare simply isn't there.
With Android, however, the market has shown that it is a valid platform (and I hate to say that as if it was an option - c'mon. ANDROID IS AWESOME! ); it makes sense for them to update, and it only helps us out. We need to show them that we actually CARE. If they understand that, then they will update for us without question. If they have any business sense, that is.
Same with BB10 (which is, quite frankly, a very nice OS - it even has NFC Beaming support between BB and Android devices). If they had the market AND Crackberry screaming like it was/is, they would get a proper app quite quickly.
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BB's problem is definitely rooted in market share, something that Android in general obviously has no problem with. But the numbers dwindle considerably when you're talking about Android tablet market share, and then on top of that, you've got to consider how many Android tablet users really care that there are some apps that are just scaled up phone versions. Apple cared enough to do something about it -- remember that was one of the criticisms of the first iPad, i.e., that it seemed just like a oversized iPod. Google has not been responsive on this front (nor on others for that matter).
Anyway, I don't want to discourage anyone, so have at it.
Signed them all and subscribed to thread, will check daily to check for new petitions
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BB's problem is definitely rooted in market share, something that Android in general obviously has no problem with. But the numbers dwindle considerably when you're talking about Android tablet market share, and then on top of that, you've got to consider how many Android tablet users really care that there are some apps that are just scaled up phone versions. Apple cared enough to do something about it -- remember that was one of the criticisms of the first iPad, i.e., that it seemed just like a oversized iPod. Google has not been responsive on this front (nor on others for that matter).
Anyway, I don't want to discourage anyone, so have at it.
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Don't worry, you're not discouraging (me, at least).
Android Tablet market share has been steadily on the rise - in fact, it rivals the iPad. According to many statistics, they are slated to pass (if they have not already) Apple devices in tablet market share by the 3rd quarter. I listed 3 (or 4?) links in all of the petitions.
As for Google, they have been doing a great job lately. They added dedicated tablet sections to Google Play, and have been pushing developers to adhere to the guidelines constantly. I say keep up that pressure!
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Signed them all and subscribed to thread, will check daily to check for new petitions
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Thanks! We need more people like you here. Keep it up!
As for everyone else, keep an eye out for new petitions; and, most importantly of all:
SIGN THEM!!!!
We have hundreds of views on this thread, yet most people don't seem to want to take 60 seconds and sign the petitions, oddly enough. And this is a Nexus 10 forum. Keep it up, anyway! We CAN do this with enough time.
Signed them all
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One of these days I plan to actually try to learn some Android development; I'll be sure to make whatever apps I make optimized for the N10 though :good:
I figured I would come here for some sort of guidance about Tapatalk. I'm sure some of you remember way back when Tapatalk was a paid app. I bought it. And now there is a Pro version. Problem is, the app that I paid for is now free. I emailed customer support about it almost 2 weeks ago and still haven't received word back. Anybody else feel this pain or has anybody even been able to reach them about being compensated for it? Guess for now I have to resort to Aptoide to get what I want.
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I might be missing something, but I don't understand the issue.
The app was good enough for you to pay for it when you paid for it, and no features have been removed. The only thing you're upset about is that now other people can get it free? It doesn't sound like you lost anything here. Why would they refund you when you had the app and used it far longer than anyone who is just using the free version now?
The license is lifetime so he has a right to want any refund.
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palco2 said:
The license is lifetime so he has a right to want any refund.
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I don't understand.
The license says you can get a refund for this app any time you want, even months after purchasing it?
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I don't understand.
The license says you can get a refund for this app any time you want, even months after purchasing it?
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i think he's upset that it's free now and he paid for services that r now i guess:good:
The issue is that he paid for a fully working product, now that product has been removed from the play store and replaced by a gimped version of another product that he possibly paid for as well. I myself find this extremely wrong from the company to do this. Instead they should have left the two versions as they were and add a new free gimped one, but they wanted the good ratings from the paid one for the free one... Such bad practice
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The issue is that he paid for a fully working product, now that product has been removed from the play store and replaced by a gimped version of another product that he possibly paid for as well. I myself find this extremely wrong from the company to do this. Instead they should have left the two versions as they were and add a new free gimped one, but they wanted the good ratings from the paid one for the free one... Such bad practice
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They didn't remove anything.
They made the pro version free and the HD with tablet enhancements paid.
What features did they remove?
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orangekid said:
They didn't remove anything.
They made the pro version free and the HD with tablet enhancements paid.
What features did they remove?
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that shows you have no idea what you are talking about.
The original 2 version has been removed from the play store (can now only be accessed with some link from them) and replaced by a gimped version of the "tapatalk pro" application. I wont go into detail as to what is all gimped, as you can look t hat up yourself, but just so you wont post something like "whats removed again", for instance posting picturesin the "free" version goes only with watermark...
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that shows you have no idea what you are talking about.
The original 2 version has been removed from the play store (can now only be accessed with some link from them) and replaced by a gimped version of the "tapatalk pro" application. I wont go into detail as to what is all gimped, as you can look t hat up yourself, but just so you wont post something like "whats removed again", for instance posting picturesin the "free" version goes only with watermark...
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But the version you paid for (that you installed initially) still posts pictures without a watermark, even though it is not in the Play Store anymore, no?
If not, then I see your point.
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But the version you paid for (that you installed initially) still posts pictures without a watermark, even though it is not in the Play Store anymore, no?
If not, then I see your point.
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Just go to their forums and read all the threads about the mess they did themselves because they were greedy.
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Just go to their forums and read all the threads about the mess they did themselves because they were greedy.
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Looks like I'll have to do that to get the full story.
I'm a little miffed too because I paid for it, but now I have to use their free version with ads, and if I want the ad free version I have to pay again? Thats messed up to me. Make your paid version free and add back the ads, then make a "new" version that you now have to pay for? So basically I can stick with the old version (which I am), but now I don't get any updates or new features. Yes they are greedy, there have been 1 or 2 app devs that ive encountered that have made changes where previous buyers would "lose out" in some way, but they came up with some kind of way for previous buyers to redeem the new or corrected version. These guys did not....I mean didn't they already have a free version? I know they at least allowed individual forums to create their own version they could distribute freely.
+1 I've paid for 2 versions of the app already, they just taking advantage now. I won't be paying for anymore versions. Came here thinking many more would be as annoyed but not so. Tapatalks own forum has some interesting info but little care from the devs. Poor form.
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+1 I've paid for 2 versions of the app already, they just taking advantage now. I won't be paying for anymore versions. Came here thinking many more would be as annoyed but not so. Tapatalks own forum has some interesting info but little care from the devs. Poor form.
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Yep, they even go so far as to locking every thread that touches this problem... Worst company ever.
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Yep, they even go so far as to locking every thread that touches this problem... Worst company ever.
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Yes, they won't even talk about it. Second time this year I've had a developer screw me over changes to a paid app. Then they complain about people not buying it.
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I don't mind buying better apps etc but all they ever do is rebrand the same app with a feature or 2 and then ask for more money. Almost like we're paying to beta test. The arguments about buying a new copy of windows are stupid. But if people must, XP -> Vista -> 7 were significant enough changes to warrant paying for a new product IMO.
I was fooled twice, my fault but won't happen a 3rd time. If they do happen to release something amazing, I'll obtain it from a 3rd party source unfortunately.
Well I don't think you will receive a refund. This isn't even logical enought to debate.
I remain of the view that the old version was much better with the themes, and everything else
I've been trying to find some information on getting the TrueSmart connected to my S4. I've found references to something called Osmart, and downloading additional apps from the play store, however to my knowledge Osmart does not exist and I have not been able to find any other info. Does anyone know what the status of this functionality is? Is this still being developed? is there a working solution?
Go to Omate dev on google Plus kurt is makeing the app and you have to belong to the beta group to get the app from the play store. Hope this helps.
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I've been trying to find some information on getting the TrueSmart connected to my S4. I've found references to something called Osmart, and downloading additional apps from the play store, however to my knowledge Osmart does not exist and I have not been able to find any other info. Does anyone know what the status of this functionality is? Is this still being developed? is there a working solution?
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Both apps are BETA releases right now so not all features work.
If you want to use it as a companion device you need OSmart Master (on your phone) and OSmart Companion (on your watch).
To get access to the OSmart Master app you need to join the Omate TrueSmart Developers G+ community and then sign up as a tester for the OSmart Master app
To get the companion app you need to download and install it from the OStore
I cannot find osmart in the ostore. Is there a more recent version of the ostore I need to get?
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I cannot find osmart in the ostore. Is there a more recent version of the ostore I need to get?
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It is currently being updated.
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It is currently being updated.
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Anyone know when the Osmart app will return?
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It is currently being updated.
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Unfortunately, Kurt been trying to get his updated version into OStore for the last 2 months without any luck. I got his latest copy before X-mas (he emailed it to me). As far as I can tell there are still issues, and I wasn't able to get it to work reliably with my Note 2. Some notifications get displayed, others don't, and often I had to reboot TrueSmart to restart the app to continue working. It's a bit disappointing but you have to keep in mind that Kurt is doing this in his spare time out of the goodness of his heart. Omate original intention for TrueSmart is to have standalone watch used with SIM or wi-fi, not bleutooth tethered like Pebble or MetaWatch.
Now with a larger worldwide deployment of TrueSmart, they will be more focused on support of main TS functionality rather than "bonus" bt tethering, I'm afraid...
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Unfortunately, Kurt been trying to get his updated version into OStore for the last 2 months without any luck. I got his latest copy before X-mas (he emailed it to me). As far as I can tell there are still issues, and I wasn't able to get it to work reliably with my Note 2. Some notifications get displayed, others don't, and often I had to reboot TrueSmart to restart the app to continue working. It's a bit disappointing but you have to keep in mind that Kurt is doing this in his spare time out of the goodness of his heart. Omate original intention for TrueSmart is to have standalone watch used with SIM or wi-fi, not bleutooth tethered like Pebble or MetaWatch.
Now with a larger worldwide deployment of TrueSmart, they will be more focused on support of main TS functionality rather than "bonus" bt tethering, I'm afraid...
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I just find it all extremely disappointing. Kurt should NOT have to develop this on his own in his spare time. Omates backers deserve better. I backed this campaign not only because of its independent functionality but because of the promise Omate made that this watch will work as a companion. It's there in black and white and color for all to see, in fact it's the first thing you see when you view the kickstarter page:
Omate® TrueSmart™ truly standalone water-resistant smartwatch, works independently from and with all smartphones. 3G, Voice & Gestures!
I'm not sure what you're source for this information is, but I truly hope you are mistaken otherwise the list of broken promises grows as this was never considered a bonus feature by us backers.
Would like to point out a couple things;
Work with far more devices than the Gear. (when you can find the app)
Is one of a very few Android based smartwatches that supports a companion mode. The AW-420 and other x201 don't even offer this as a possiblity.
Is the only watchphone that I know of that even supports a companion mode (a there are a ton of these around).
Kurt is an employee of Omate.
And this is all with BETA apps on a BETA device that has not even reached the retail market yet.
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I just find it all extremely disappointing. Kurt should NOT have to develop this on his own in his spare time. Omates backers deserve better. I backed this campaign not only because of its independent functionality but because of the promise Omate made that this watch will work as a companion. It's there in black and white and color for all to see, in fact it's the first thing you see when you view the kickstarter page:
Omate® TrueSmart™ truly standalone water-resistant smartwatch, works independently from and with all smartphones. 3G, Voice & Gestures!
I'm not sure what you're source for this information is, but I truly hope you are mistaken otherwise the list of broken promises grows as this was never considered a bonus feature by us backers.
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Kurt is contracted to make these apps.
Good luck getting any non-Samsung phone to work well with the Gear.
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Kurt is contracted to make these apps.
Good luck getting any non-Samsung phone to work well with the Gear.
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Contract or not this was a core feature for many backers, Nobody should be developing this app in their spare time.
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What part about contract work are you unfamiliar with?
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Since my last communication with Kurt was before x-mas and my info about Omate priority of TS being standalone device came from video interview given by Laurent to Smartwatchfan website during CES, obviously my info is not up to date, so I would listen to Kuronosan update as an official confirmation.
You fund the development of a product and join a developers forum and then complain about a lack of final run features.
If you want a final product, go to Best Buy. If you want to be on the bleeding edge, Kickstarter and XDA-Developers are your friends.
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You fund the development of a product and join a developers forum and then complain about a lack of final run features.
If you want a final product, go to Best Buy. If you want to be on the bleeding edge, Kickstarter and XDA-Developers are your friends.
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Spare me that old song and dance. I think that lone has been plagiarized enough. Perhaps if you bothered to read my posts you would understand. I have no issues with the availability of these features at launch. I do, however have issue when a company that raised over a million dollars hires one guy to develop a core feature in his spare time. I also have issues when SD cards and spare batteries are sent separate from a device with a note basically saying if you install them you will void your warranty. Perhaps in backward world this makes sense, but not in this one.
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What part about contract work are you unfamiliar with?
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I'm well famiar with contract work, that doesn't mean that I agree with how omate is handling the development of this core feature.
By your logic simply because I understand what the NSA is doing I should agree with it.
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So a BETA device that is not even been released to retail has no relevance? I am on xda right?
I agree with Loki; hw is finalized and the SW is still in beta testing. That is a whole idea of KS/IGG project deadline to get hw in the hands of backers. SW can be updated with yet another patch, hw fixes are much harder to handle. BUT, at the same time I'm happy to see current TS owners voicing their opinion about importance of Companion app. For a lot of us, a basic smartwatch principle has been defined by Pebble/Metawatch notification model. TS is a fantastic standalone device, especially if you are not on Verizon (lol!!!). But for a lot of other people who find their Pebble/Metawatch to be limited, myself included, we are looking for TS to be a super smartwatch to take us there.
As long as Omate guys are not dropping a ball on bt tethering (for notification purposes), we need to wait until they prioritize their work to get there. And if we still talking about this 6 months from now, then you have all the rights to get pissed
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I'm well famiar with contract work, that doesn't mean that I agree with how omate is handling the development of this core feature.
By your logic simply because I understand what the NSA is doing I should agree with it.
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Your logic is terrible, and so are you.
Just leave. Please. Everyone here is already tired of your bad inferences and faulty logic.
Go complain on the Cyanogen or OMNI topics about how "X feature isn't implemented wtf" and see how quickly you're laughed out of the topic. You clearly have no clue how development works.
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Your logic is terrible, and so are you.
Just leave. Please. Everyone here is already tired of your bad inferences and faulty logic.
Go complain on the Cyanogen or OMNI topics about how "X feature isn't implemented wtf" and see how quickly you're laughed out of the topic. You clearly have no clue how development works.
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This is my thread, I'm not going anywhere. You clearly can't handle what I have to say for whatever reason. It's like having a conversation with a 5 year old. You run out of things to say so you resort to name calling and saying go away.
For the mature people here, I'm not going to debate whether this device should be considered a beta device or not, or whether the fact that it's a kickstarter automatically renders it so. I will, however state that I have read every bit of information available on the truesmart and at no point does it state that this is a beta watch. Some of you might argue that it's a given considering it's a kickstarter. Well then, at what point is a kickstarter device deemed ready to release? At hardwares completion? Once an os is installed? Perhaps once the device meets all its advertised specifications? None of the above? We could debate this for days. However, this thread has gotten so far off topic at this point, I'll leave it at that.
Sorry if I breaking forum rules but I can't post on "Android Pay" thread. It says I haven't entered image verification????
Anyway....
Have Some BAD NEWS!!! on this subject guys.
Have been emailing customer services over the last few weeks, to try to resolve the problem that is Android Pay. Had an email back at the beginning of the month saying and I quote
"Hello friend,
We haven't got answers from our technician.They are still working on it.Pls wait for more days.
Best Regards,
Lynn
Team Elephone"
Been on Holiday and haven't had time to chase it up until lately. Not some days, but 3 weeks have passed and 2 software updates. I emailed customer services again for an update as I hadn't heard anything. Again got an email from Lynn and here is her email response
"Hello friend,
Sorry to tellyou that the problem can't be solved so far.
P9000 doesn't support Android Pay.
Best regards,
Lynn
Team Elephone"
No resolution, so its up to you guys now to continue to spread the word for Elephone's customers services and technical support as it's useless to me. I will sell it and get something else that works fully. I bought this device with good will. As it was one of the few devices with NFC around that price range. Stupidly I thought Android Pay would just work!!! Clearly not. Lesson learnt!!!
This is the same response I posted on the Elephone forum BTW
It's not up to Elephone to make it work, it's up to Google.
They need to have a signed, certified, and approved by banks OS to make it work.
So basically Android Pay will only work on Nexus, HTC, Samsung and LG phones. All major manufacturers. It doesn't even work on OnePlus phones, as it runs Cyanogenmod.
Also, your phone has to have a locked bootloader, stock recovery and has to be unrooted for AndroidPay to work.
It's a ridiculous requirement that makes 80% of Android phones not compatible. Read the comments on Google Play, you will see the disappointment.
Google says they will try to negotiate with the banks to require fewer security measurements, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Again. Not Elephone's fault. Not up to them.
Nonsense!!!!! OnePlus 3 comes with Android Pay pre-installed. So an uninformed thing to say. My handset has a locked bootloader, stock recovery and is unrooted. It also works with various banking apps So YES!!! it is down to Elephone to sort the certification out. This is the response I got from Google themselves:-
"Hi , Unfortunately, the Elephone P9000 is running test-keys that were not registered with Android's Compatibility Test Suite. Until the manufacturer resolves this, all users on Elephone P9000 devices will be unable to use Android Pay. Please feel free to contact the manufacturer to ask about their plans for enabling you to get setup.
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It's not up to Elephone to make it work, it's up to Google.
They need to have a signed, certified, and approved by banks OS to make it work.
So basically Android Pay will only work on Nexus, HTC, Samsung and LG phones. All major manufacturers. It doesn't even work on OnePlus phones, as it runs Cyanogenmod.
Also, your phone has to have a locked bootloader, stock recovery and has to be unrooted for AndroidPay to work.
It's a ridiculous requirement that makes 80% of Android phones not compatible. Read the comments on Google Play, you will see the disappointment.
Google says they will try to negotiate with the banks to require fewer security measurements, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Again. Not Elephone's fault. Not up to them.
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OnePlus 3, maybe. Not the older ones though. I can literally post screenshots of users complaining.
The OnePlus 3 is running OxygenOS. The older ones Cyanogenmod, which, I do not think will be supported. Ever.
Sooo I'm not the one who is uninformed. (A billion exclamation marks)
Lastly, what's the point being on XDA-Developers if you have a locked bootloader?
Google Wallet used to be much more open, all you needed was a device with an NFC.
Now you need to adhere to some ridiculous security measurements...
Elephone is running a modified version of Android. I don't think they will ever get the "test-keys" registered.
You are both ridiculously misinformed on the matter.
Elephone needs to switch from signing their ROM with test-keys to signing it with release-keys. If you want to know the difference between the two then please search.
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OnePlus 3, maybe. Not the older ones though. I can literally post screenshots of users complaining.
The OnePlus 3 is running OxygenOS. The older ones Cyanogenmod, which, I do not think will be supported. Ever.
Sooo I'm not the one who is uninformed. (A billion exclamation marks)
Lastly, what's the point being on XDA-Developers if you have a locked bootloader?
Google Wallet used to be much more open, all you needed was a device with an NFC.
Now you need to adhere to some ridiculous security measurements...
Elephone is running a modified version of Android. I don't think they will ever get the "test-keys" registered.
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Therefore it is down to them. I wish I would have known this before I bought the damned thing. Other than that, not a bad handset for that cash.
I was merely quoting an email I got this morning from Elephone and an email I got from Google a few weeks ago. I was not being informed or misinformed, or trying to be clever or anything. Just letting everyone know what the outcome was. End of story. Thanks!
Wow people here are harsh and not a bit helpful so far!!!
Jonny said:
You are both ridiculously misinformed on the matter.
Elephone needs to switch from signing their ROM with test-keys to signing it with release-keys. If you want to know the difference between the two then please search.
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You are both ridiculously misinformed on the matter.
Elephone needs to switch from signing their ROM with test-keys to signing it with release-keys. If you want to know the difference between the two then please search.
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Everyone's ridiculously misinformed! Misinformation all around. On the house.
Getting back on topic, are you saying that anyone who makes a ROM and signs it with release-keys instead of test-keys can make a Google-Pay-friendly ROM? That wouldn't make sense? I don't know. This info doesn't just lie around, so apologies if I sound daft.
Cheers
I'm going to jump on the "wish I had Android Pay" bandwagon.
I use contactless payment all the time and have backed the Pagare strap for my Pebble Time Steel watch but that has been delayed until next year, so in the interim it seems I can only use cards. Would like to be able to leave my wallet at home sometimes.
So is the only solution likely to be if Elephone themselves stop signing their roms with test keys, and use release keys instead, and users who are on custom roms go back to using the standard one?
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I'm going to jump on the "wish I had Android Pay" bandwagon.
I use contactless payment all the time and have backed the Pagare strap for my Pebble Time Steel watch but that has been delayed until next year, so in the interim it seems I can only use cards. Would like to be able to leave my wallet at home sometimes.
So is the only solution likely to be if Elephone themselves stop signing their roms with test keys, and use release keys instead, and users who are on custom roms go back to using the standard one?
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From what I've seen, yes
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I asked Elephone on their FB page if they knew when Android Pay would be supported on P9000.
Reply:
"Not at this time, still in R&D, will update when we have solid news"
Disappointing
FWIW I have read that it's not possible to get Android Pay working on phones with unlocked bootloader, or Cyanogenmod. Also Chinese phones generally.
As such, not sure how I just managed to set it up on my wife's Oneplus One running CM13. Added card, verified, no error messages.
I thought the OPO had an unlocked bootloader from stock, and it's still running CM13 not Oxygen OS?
If so, why can't we get Android Pay on P9000 in the CM13 ROM that is being developed?
I think it was something to do with the rom signing keys, I wish they would sing the rom with release keys instead.
JakesDen said:
I think it was something to do with the rom signing keys, I wish they would sing the rom with release keys instead.
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That's the first part of it, there are other parts if the CTS that need to pass as well but signing a ROM with test keys is a big deal breaker as it really isn't secure.
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That's the first part of it, there are other parts if the CTS that need to pass as well but signing a ROM with test keys is a big deal breaker as it really isn't secure.
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they should focus on doing that and and relicing the source for stuff so we can port over cyanogen and ubuntu touch.
Slightly OT:
I found a workaround that suits for me to pay with my p9000 in Germany.
Root and XPosed needed, so some MIGHT be out here. I'm using rootcloak and device Faker in combination with the App boon.
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arhornberg said:
Slightly OT:
I found a workaround that suits for me to pay with my p9000 in Germany.
Root and XPosed needed, so some MIGHT be out here. I'm using rootcloak and device Faker in combination with the App boon.
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Can you give a step by step guide?
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I have had Barclays Pay working on my phone for a few weeks now and that has no issues yet!
smartjim25 said:
I have had Barclays Pay working on my phone for a few weeks now and that has no issues yet!
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I've been using it since I got the phone and found out Android Pay doesn't work. The only time I had issues wss when I updated to the latest Elephone OTA update. It completely broke Barclaycard Pay and the only way I could get it working again was a full wipe of the device.
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I've been using it since I got the poo home and found out Android Pay doesn't work. The only time I had issues wss when I updated to the latest Elephone OTA update. It completely broke Barclaycard Pay and the only way I could get it working again was a full wipe of the device.
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You take your poo for walks? Lol that's gotta be typo of the year!
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