[Q] Rooting Ultra C6833 - Sony Xperia Z Ultra

Hi
I'm on .510 and I just got done reading through a bunch of rooting threads and had a some questions.
From what I've read you cannot gain root access if you upgrade to .257.
If I root it now, then upgrade to .257, will my root remain intact? I have screen sensitivity issues and want to upgrade, just trying
to find out the best way possible and be able to unlocked my bootloader, and achieve root.

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Sashin said:
Hi
I'm on .510 and I just got done reading through a bunch of rooting threads and had a some questions.
From what I've read you cannot gain root access if you upgrade to .257.
If I root it now, then upgrade to .257, will my root remain intact? I have screen sensitivity issues and want to upgrade, just trying
to find out the best way possible and be able to unlocked my bootloader, and achieve root.
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Question for you. Im having trouble upgrading to the latest firmware version. Are you already on version 14.1.B.2.257? If so, whos is your carrier, and how did you go about getting your update?

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From reading your thread it looks like you lose recovery.

Phaze1585 said:
Question for you. Im having trouble upgrading to the latest firmware version. Are you already on version 14.1.B.2.257? If so, whos is your carrier, and how did you go about getting your update?
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No, I'm on .510 but I got the message to upgrade to .257.

If you're already rooted on .510, install OTA Root Keeper (from the Play Store), then update to 257. You should (if everything goes well) still have root when it's done.

This method (with OTA Root Keeper) did not work in my case.
My Ultra has already rooted, I received the OTA update, but the update refused to install.
Every time I tried to install the upgrade, an unknown error occured and the phone restarted.
Finally, I succeeded to upgrade the software with root using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46803343#post46803343

hey all, sony xperia noob here, been reading the forums but i hoped you wouldn't mind a quick question. i got a C6802 that has .257 on it, and it still has warranty until late February 2014. is there a way to downgrade without unlocking the bootloader, then root(again, w/out bootloader unlock)), and then update back to .257 and keep root with one of the methods?
or should i not even worry about the warranty? on the phone they said unlocking the bootloader does void the warranty, but you know, they have to say that i'm sure. thing is, i figure there is a chance i could exchange for a replacement if i find any quirks.
thx in advance for any info/advice.

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OTA update to 6.1.A.2.45 for rooted Xperia S with unlocked bootloader

I have a rooted Xperia S with unlocked bootloader, by following instructions on this thread.
Today I received a notification about OTA update to 6.1.A.2.45 (40MB in size) and I was wondering if I can apply this update without loosing root. I really did search for an answer on the forum before making this post and couldn't find anything specific for my phone, but what I did found only confused me more, which is to be expected since I am a noob. Apparently it worked for some users of Xperia Play with unlocked bootloader, but on the other hand some users of Xperia Arc S say that bootloader should be locked when making an OTA update.
I would really appreciate any help from more experienced members, I'm new in Android and don't want to start by bricking my phone.
Thank you for your time and effort.
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better dont, you will end up with a bricked device. NEVER accept OTA updates if your bootloader is unlocked.
Don't update with PCC when you're unlocked.
Wow, that was fast! Thank you guys.
hi, did you find how to update?
BoomBadill said:
I have a rooted Xperia S with unlocked bootloader, by following instructions on this thread.
Today I received a notification about OTA update to 6.1.A.2.45 (40MB in size) and I was wondering if I can apply this update without loosing root. I really did search for an answer on the forum before making this post and couldn't find anything specific for my phone, but what I did found only confused me more, which is to be expected since I am a noob. Apparently it worked for some users of Xperia Play with unlocked bootloader, but on the other hand some users of Xperia Arc S say that bootloader should be locked when making an OTA update.
I would really appreciate any help from more experienced members, I'm new in Android and don't want to start by bricking my phone.
Thank you for your time and effort.
Boom
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i also have an open bootloader although not root, but i tried updating using the phone's OTA and PCC and neither worked. I promptly realized it might just be the open bootloader which is keeping me from updating, so how do we manually update? if you have any procedures will highly appreciate anyone..... thanks in advance
abajarde said:
i also have an open bootloader although not root, but i tried updating using the phone's OTA and PCC and neither worked. I promptly realized it might just be the open bootloader which is keeping me from updating, so how do we manually update? if you have any procedures will highly appreciate anyone..... thanks in advance
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You can find your regions FW. (firmware) and download it, after that download and install flashtool, and flash the .ftf file via flashtool and that is it.
thanks for the quick reply
Anicane said:
You can find your regions FW. (firmware) and download it, after that download and install flashtool, and flash the .ftf file via flashtool and that is it.
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Im going to engage in a rather noobish conversation but i want to be completely sure before i proceed to install. my phone and my pc companion both find the update which is 6.1.a.2.45, which i assume is the one i need to find on .ftf. after downloading it from wherever i find it i just open the flash tool program and select it to start the installation? and again thank you
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Anicane said:
You can find your regions FW. (firmware) and download it, after that download and install flashtool, and flash the .ftf file via flashtool and that is it.
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i did a fast search and found this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31011440#post31011440
they have some firmwares there, but they seem to be full updates, because they are 300+mb while the update on my phone its only 40mb.
so should i just download the generic and proceed to flash?
Anicane said:
You can find your regions FW. (firmware) and download it, after that download and install flashtool, and flash the .ftf file via flashtool and that is it.
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Where do i find a xperia s Brazil firmware? I downloaded every other regions, but i want the brazilian one. Can you help me? Thank you.
BoomBadill said:
I have a rooted Xperia S with unlocked bootloader, by following instructions on this thread.
Today I received a notification about OTA update to 6.1.A.2.45 (40MB in size) and I was wondering if I can apply this update without loosing root. I really did search for an answer on the forum before making this post and couldn't find anything specific for my phone, but what I did found only confused me more, which is to be expected since I am a noob. Apparently it worked for some users of Xperia Play with unlocked bootloader, but on the other hand some users of Xperia Arc S say that bootloader should be locked when making an OTA update.
I would really appreciate any help from more experienced members, I'm new in Android and don't want to start by bricking my phone.
Thank you for your time and effort.
Boom
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Hmmm,
Slightly different scenario here.
I have a rooted xperia S with a locked bootloader and obviously want to preserve root.
Previous experience tells me that a PC update from SEUS does a full wipe of the phone and looses root however OTA updates usually preserve root. I was hoping somebody could clarify if this is still the case?
Thanks
if your bootloaders unlocked you cant update ota or via seus. it will just give an error about your device being modified
Hmmm,
Slightly different scenario here.
I have a rooted xperia S with a locked bootloader and obviously want to preserve root.
Previous experience tells me that a PC update from SEUS does a full wipe of the phone and looses root however OTA updates usually preserve root. I was hoping somebody could clarify if this is still the case?
Thanks
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same question as you, i have a rogers xperia s with a stock uk rom, it's rooted but bootloader is still locked. Just want to make sure that i don't loose root, or the root method can still be applied after the update.
i found something which might help you
hackit said:
same question as you, i have a rogers xperia s with a stock uk rom, it's rooted but bootloader is still locked. Just want to make sure that i don't loose root, or the root method can still be applied after the update.
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there is a rom somewhere in another forum i guess which already is updated and rooted. so you might want to just download that one and flash it. it has its own kernel and recovery.
abajarde said:
there is a rom somewhere in another forum i guess which already is updated and rooted. so you might want to just download that one and flash it. it has its own kernel and recovery.
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I thought you could not use pre rooted rom with a locked bootloader.
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I thought you could not use pre rooted rom with a locked bootloader.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1723610
I've not been on much recently at all so I could be wrong, but I'm sure it's been said that you can flash ROM such as the linked one when bootloader is locked and perhaps the pre-rooted one too. May need to search the thread.
Nothing out there that allows me to root my Xperia S on ICS without wiping my data though I think. One can wait... or dream. :[
Chocolate Columbo said:
Nothing out there that allows me to root my Xperia S on ICS without wiping my data though I think. One can wait... or dream. :[
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Yeah having too wipe at this point is a bummer. If I'm going to wipe my phone ill wait for the ability to unlock my locked bootloader.
Problem with that is I will most likely have a new phone by then.
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sgp321 .253 root by dowgrade help

Could someone point me onto a guide to root my sgp321. 253 via downgrade i havent found any for the tablet. Most guides are for the z phone. Thanks
nielo360 said:
Could someone point me onto a guide to root my sgp321. 253 via downgrade i havent found any for the tablet. Most guides are for the z phone. Thanks
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Dont think there is any sgp321 fw earlier than 253....
So there would be no way to root this model then i guess
nielo360 said:
So there would be no way to root this model then i guess
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I think you can root the tablet if you unlock the bootloader. If you want root currently on the 253 version, you can unlock the bootloader and install cwm recovery. I have not done so, maybe someone else can confirm.
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isimobile said:
I think you can root the tablet if you unlock the bootloader. If you want root currently on the 253 version, you can unlock the bootloader and install cwm recovery. I have not done so, maybe someone else can confirm.
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Confirmed.
Unlock bootloader.
Flash DooMLoRDs CWM Recovery and boot into recovery an you'll get root as a side effect. Make sure you flash a Superuser zip....
I just read abut it this morning and am contemplating unlocking, the only thing stopping me is the loss of bravia engine after unlocking with no way to get it back. Im not bothered about the warranty.
nielo360 said:
I just read abut it this morning and am contemplating unlocking, the only thing stopping me is the loss of bravia engine after unlocking with no way to get it back. Im not bothered about the warranty.
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you and many others (me for example.) seems like many of devs havent got sgp321 in hand so they're more focused in sgp311 and312. I've mentioned before there is paradox for sgp321.
# You can backup Ta partition for bravia engine 2 and drm keys.
# But you cant do that without root.
# You cant Root (yet) without unlocking bootloader.
# With bootloader unlocked you'll lost DRM key and BA2 forever. (you cant flash others TA partition you'll hard brick the device).
I've asked a question in QA if the mods can make three subforums for SGP 321,311 and 312 so that people wont flash wrong tft or try flashing wrong firmware in wrong device as every Model is reffered to Xperia Z ( I almost flashed xperia Z phone's firmware to SGP 321) its just disaster waiting to happen.
The naming convention used by sony itself is a bit strange when i try to google xperia tablet z related stuff i get xperia z stuff same with youtube. its tough finding guides. In terms of marketing it seems like an odd choice too. Xperia z and xperia tablet z can be confusing for daily consumers despite one being a phone and another a tab
isimobile said:
I think you can root the tablet if you unlock the bootloader. If you want root currently on the 253 version, you can unlock the bootloader and install cwm recovery. I have not done so, maybe someone else can confirm.
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I confirms the. Got ROOT this method.
tehSmoogs said:
Dont think there is any sgp321 fw earlier than 253....
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well actually there is but from xperia z smartphone (it was 10.1.A.1.434 before came update to 10.1.1.A.1.253 ). Furthermore smartphone has the same hardware as tablet (Wifi+LTE), the difference seems to be only in screen size, and camera. So if you take the risk you can downgrade to .434, get root and the update to .253.

Rooting and updating xperia z ultra c6833 and other questions

Okay so i just got my c6833 ultra today and its on 4.2.2 currently and i got notified asking if i wanted to update it. Should i take that update ? and also how do i root this thing ? and does rooting screw anything up like what would happen if i unlocked the bootloader ?
In my opinion 4.2.2 was already very decent. 4.3 just brought some overall smoothness to an already zippy device.
4.2.2 is easily rooted too, but 4.3 requires that you unlock the BL (losing X-reality in the process). Think there's someone here who was able to root his locked BL on 4.3, too - you should check that out.
jordy787 said:
Okay so i just got my c6833 ultra today and its on 4.2.2 currently and i got notified asking if i wanted to update it. Should i take that update ? and also how do i root this thing ? and does rooting screw anything up like what would happen if i unlocked the bootloader ?
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How do we know if you should take the update???
Things to note:
You will need to be on .532 of the firmware to root using an exploit
Root following the guide that is stickied in the general thread, also read the back up TA thread
.290 (4.3) is easy to root if you have an unlocked BL

A couple of rooting questions

I have a couple questions to ask about rooting this device.
I have a UK model with unlockable boot loader. Everything stock on the device.
1. Is there a root out yet that doesn't require unlocking the boot loader?
2. Can I root without voiding my warranty?
3. Can I easily unroot and leave no indication of it being rooted, to make a warranty claim if ever needed?
4. Do mobile banking apps still not work on rooted devices?
5. Does rooting slow down your device?
Thanks in advance
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1. Yes there is a full root thread on the Original Development forums for the Z2
2. No, your warrenty will void with root however removing and flashing a stock FTF it will restore your warrenty as your Z2 no longer contains modified content
3. You can unroot via the app and there will be noticable changes unless you used root to modify but then you can flash a stock firmware
4. They should. Very few apps actualy check for root
5. Rooting does not slow your device
Info can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2775411
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Thank you
Also is there a tweaksbox/Xposed style app for the Z2?
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Almost all Xperia 4.4 xposed/modkits/etc work for any Xperia with 4.4 KK aka Z2 with 4.4
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So I can root without unlocking boot loader, and then just unroot to restore warrenty if/when needed?
I have looked through some threads and a little confused about if the phone has to be downgraded to root? The build number ends in .402, so can I root easily?
Thanks again, I do appreciate you taking the time to help me
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Yes you can root without unlocked boooader as of posting this
You can restore warrenty by removing root
I think you can stay on 402 to root, not sure, look at doomlords thread in original development
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I never ended up rooting my device, but decided now is the time.
I am on 17.1.1.A.0.402
Bootloader is unlockable, but currently locked (and will be staying that way.).
Does anyone know if there is a way I can root it without unlocking bootloader and without downgrading firmware?
Thanks in advance
1iam5mith said:
I never ended up rooting my device, but decided now is the time.
I am on 17.1.1.A.0.402
Bootloader is unlockable, but currently locked (and will be staying that way.).
Does anyone know if there is a way I can root it without unlocking bootloader and without downgrading firmware?
Thanks in advance
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there are root methods in both development sections and general sections
you can also try towelroot
1iam5mith said:
I never ended up rooting my device, but decided now is the time.
I am on 17.1.1.A.0.402
Bootloader is unlockable, but currently locked (and will be staying that way.).
Does anyone know if there is a way I can root it without unlocking bootloader and without downgrading firmware?
Thanks in advance
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yes you can root easily now with locked bl (thanks to all the devs that contributed btw), you can upgrade to .314 and root that easily too, you can then restore ftf to stock and keep warranty. or you can also root, then backup TA, then unlock BL and do whatever you like. you can restore that TA backup later to get locked bl again and restore ftf to stock and keep warranty.
Thanks guys.
Is there any super simple step by step guides for doing this?
1iam5mith said:
Thanks guys.
Is there any super simple step by step guides for doing this?
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these root tools that can be found in XDA have guides within the threads
1iam5mith said:
Thanks guys.
Is there any super simple step by step guides for doing this?
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Before you root, you should read the threads in the dev section as potentially you are unleashing a beast which can brick your device.

[Q] Can I root but stay official?

I have a Sony Xperia Z Ultra, running 4.4.4. Is it possible to do a simple root (in order to make adjustments to the LED and sound), but not affect the stock ROM or over-the-air updates? I don't want to miss out on the official Sony Lollipop, so should I maybe wait to root until after that update is released? Thanks.
No, you can't get offical updates if you have your device rooted , although you can root your device till the new update is on the line. Just unroot your sony device get the update and then root it again. Otherwise try any other rom.
Ah, many thanks. I didn't realise that was possible. I thought rooted was rooted and there was no going back. Although I've rooted a couple of devices before, I'm still something of a newbie. Would you be able to point me in the direction of a good tutorial or website with instructions how to do a basic root, and un-root, on the Z Ultra? Cheers.
http://theunlockr.com/2013/12/17/unroot-sony-xperia-z-ultra/
I found it pretty helpful , instructions are simple.
t20mohit said:
No, you can't get offical updates if you have your device rooted , although you can root your device till the new update is on the line. Just unroot your sony device get the update and then root it again. Otherwise try any other rom.
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Is there a reason as to why google doesn't allow OTA on rooted devices?
t20mohit said:
http://theunlockr.com/2013/12/17/unroot-sony-xperia-z-ultra/
I found it pretty helpful , instructions are simple.
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That's great, many thanks. Can anyone help with a how to root page, please?

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