Ok so I know many people are waiting on wireless charging. My question is, is wireless charging already here just sitting under our nose?
I haven't found any threads talking about this, so I apologize if I am wrong, but the NFC antennae is built into the battery. Could this also be the wireless charging ability unleashed by a powermat?
From: http://www.itproportal.com/2012/03/23/update-duracell-powermats-wicc-power-matters-alliance/
"Duracell Powermat's key message is that adding wireless charging is now easier than ever before. The wireless charging functionality could be built directly in the battery, as a WiCC card inserted by the manufacturer in the phone or available as an off the shelf after market accessory."
They have also shown their WICC card in the S2, so we know they are pals with Samsung. Also, Powermat has kept saying "coming this summer" for their new line of products. Perhaps the "delay" with the wireless charge kit for the S3 is actually a delay on the part of Powermat getting their new product line.
So I ask, once again...If you set the device on a powermat as is...does it charge?
No comments to this? I thought someone would at least have a powermat to squelch any thought of this I had.
BungeBash said:
Ok so I know many people are waiting on wireless charging. My question is, is wireless charging already here just sitting under our nose?
I haven't found any threads talking about this, so I apologize if I am wrong, but the NFC antennae is built into the battery. Could this also be the wireless charging ability unleashed by a powermat?
From: http://www.itproportal.com/2012/03/23/update-duracell-powermats-wicc-power-matters-alliance/
"Duracell Powermat's key message is that adding wireless charging is now easier than ever before. The wireless charging functionality could be built directly in the battery, as a WiCC card inserted by the manufacturer in the phone or available as an off the shelf after market accessory."
They have also shown their WICC card in the S2, so we know they are pals with Samsung. Also, Powermat has kept saying "coming this summer" for their new line of products. Perhaps the "delay" with the wireless charge kit for the S3 is actually a delay on the part of Powermat getting their new product line.
So I ask, once again...If you set the device on a powermat as is...does it charge?
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That's a fantastic question and would love to know myself.
I suspect the two pins to the left of the battery are for the wireless expansion. You could be right through.
Any update on this?
These are going really CHEAP http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360471423929&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:GB:1123
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it could be on the optional back cover , the two pins are for the connections , also there are claims that it can charge further away then sticking it on the dock or charging mat , i find it quite pointless if charging has to stationary , i rather just plug it in into my charger
The two pins next to the battery seems a good shout. Means Samsung can sell compatibility battery doors.
Anyone got a schematic and know how to follow the PCB wiring to see if the pins feed the charging circuit?
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No, NFC is not used for wireless battery charging.
It's already been discussed and modded using a Palm Touchstone here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710089
Hi all,
I'm posting this in case anyone else purchases this gear and thinks they can use it like the original battery that comes with the Note 3.
There is another post in this forum that talked about a 50% off code until June, so I bought this:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EB-K800BUWESTA
Even with shipping/tax, it only came out to ~$31. I thought great deal.
It arrived and I noticed that you can't use it like you would the original Note 3 battery where I stuck a Qi-enabled sticker on it and could use it to wirelessly charge my spare battery when the main one runs down, figured I'd just buy another Qi-enabling sticker.
Thing showed up and it's NOT Qi-compatible. Meaning, it has no contacts on it that let me attach a Qi sticker. Not sure if it's by design that way but just thought I'd provide a heads up in case anyone else is looking to buy this.
sanjsrik said:
Hi all,
I'm posting this in case anyone else purchases this gear and thinks they can use it like the original battery that comes with the Note 3.
There is another post in this forum that talked about a 50% off code until June, so I bought this:
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EB-K800BUWESTA
Even with shipping/tax, it only came out to ~$31. I thought great deal.
It arrived and I noticed that you can't use it like you would the original Note 3 battery where I stuck a Qi-enabled sticker on it and could use it to wirelessly charge my spare battery when the main one runs down, figured I'd just buy another Qi-enabling sticker.
Thing showed up and it's NOT Qi-compatible. Meaning, it has no contacts on it that let me attach a Qi sticker. Not sure if it's by design that way but just thought I'd provide a heads up in case anyone else is looking to buy this.
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There is two ways to do this,
1 modify the unit to support qi by adding a receiver inside.
2 use a USB receiver or a USB dongle.
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kms108 said:
There is two ways to do this,
1 modify the unit to support qi by adding a receiver inside.
2 use a USB receiver or a USB dongle.
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1. Are you planning on opening up the battery to do this? Sounds like a lot of work and possibly ruining the battery if you screw it up
2. If you use a USB receiver, aren't you then completely ignoring the point of having wireless charging? I don't think I understand #2 completely.
sanjsrik said:
1. Are you planning on opening up the battery to do this? Sounds like a lot of work and possibly ruining the battery if you screw it up
2. If you use a USB receiver, aren't you then completely ignoring the point of having wireless charging? I don't think I understand #2 completely.
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1 you can open the battery charger that come with the battery and put a qi receiver inside, the battery charger then can be placed on a home transmitter.
2 connect a USB qi receiver through the USB port on the battery charger.
If you actuall want just the battery with qi built in, it's only available for the S3, S4 and note 2, if it's not qi, but supports wireless charging, other batteries are available for older phones models.
So, part of the reason i bought this phone was the built in wireless charging. Well it was a big surprise to me [emoji30]when i got my new Qi charger today, and it wouldn't work. I never thought that it wouldn't be built into the battery cover.
So has anyone found a inexpensive, not the ebay 120.00 battery cover, way to add the charging into backs that came with our phones?
You can get the Verizon Wireless Charging Circle case for 59.99
Well, looking for a replacement back or just the qi receiver sticker, I'm not a fan of the flip cases.
Boltons75 said:
Well, looking for a replacement back or just the qi receiver sticker, I'm not a fan of the flip cases.
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I feel the same way. I don't want the circle case, but i really want Qi charging. I guess we will have to wait for them to release a Qi charging backplate only.
Guess this is what i get for getting a phone on day 1 that it's available. I just wish that they would have come out of the box ready to go. Wondering if we can modify one of the adapters from another model phone to work temporarily?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00CU...807c1a069f4f45&pi=SL500_SS115#ref=pd_aw_sbs_6
I'm thinking with minimal tweaking this could be made to work.
Boltons75 said:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00CU...807c1a069f4f45&pi=SL500_SS115#ref=pd_aw_sbs_6
I'm thinking with minimal tweaking this could be made to work.
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How does it interface with the phone (both this pad and the G3)? Does it have pins on the case and battery cover?
Yes there are 4 pins on the phone case that should connect to the battery door, but only the two for nfc are being used. My thought, i could easily make an adapter to connect if needed. Minimal soldering to the temp receiver coil.
Brief history - I've had wireless charging with both my last Samsung devices via factory wireless charging covers. I also have it on my two Nexus 7 (2013). I've bought various wireless chargers over the years, as evidenced by just the few I have attached here, there are more throughout the house and at my office. I have also done extensive testing with them in the car as well, but those are all in a box because the technology is just not there yet, in my opinion.
The S6 Edge is an anomaly. Every other device I have works great with most of the chargers I will describe for long term (overnight for example) charging, some better than others, but the S6E has some serious charging issues that cannot be overlooked. I'll go into detail for each charger that I have experienced first hand:
OEM 2015 Samsung Wireless Charging Pad - I just got this in the mail two days ago, and I already hate it. I really have no complaints over the LED lights, I think they look nice, but some people absolutely hate them. They are bright in a dark room, no question. My issue with it is that the charger juices up the S6 and then stops. Yes, you read that right, stops completely. So if you charge it overnight, it will not be fully charged when you wake up unless you sleep for 3-4 hours at a time. I woke up the last two nights with it charged to 64% and 72%. This is unacceptable. Samsung clearly states on their website - "If using a Galaxy S 6 or Galaxy S 6 Edge, it will also alert you when your device is fully charged" which is total crap. The LEDs turn from blue to green, but what they mean to say is that it alerts you by then draining your battery after being fully charged. Use this ONLY if you aren't going to need it for overnight charging!
Tylt Vu Wireless Charger - Where do I begin? I own two of these, one for the house and the other in my office. I have loved the look and quality of these for a long time now, and I've gotten to be so furious with using them that I have pulled them both out of the wall outlets. You can read all the details of my issues I've encountered with them here, but the short of it is that I've had them replace both chargers and when that didn't work, I even returned my phone thinking it couldn't have been an issue with them, it must have been the phone! They even know how difficult it is to use the S6 with the Vu that they have created a device guide specifically to show how awkward it is to get it charging, and even still, my device constantly beeps and beeps when fully charged. Don't believe me? Got over 9 mins to waste watching me prove it? Once again, this is not a charger you can rely on for use overnight because of this, others say they work just fine with theirs, but there's more to it than some saying yea and some saying nay.
Itian Qi Three Coils Wireless Charging Pad A6 for Samsung Galaxy S6 S6 edge - designed specifically to work with the S6 and Edge? Sign me up! Just received it today, when fully charged, does the same things the Tylt Vu does above. And this time, I'm not going to send my phone back to prove it isn't the issue, I'll just send back another charger that doesn't work for the anomaly.
Nexus Wireless Charger - Small, high quality, magnetized to align coils..... didn't work with my S5 and is flaky to work with the Nexus 7 when inside a slim case, doesn't work at all with the S6 either. I liked this so much when I had my S4 and N7 outside a case, but now, it's just a $50 decoration for my current line of devices! Stay clear of this.
Nokia DT-910 Wireless Charging Stand (not pictured) - Aside from this not working for just about anything, I got it for free from AT&T when they were blowing them out at $10 shipped, and then they refunded my purchase and sent it anyways. I use it for my N7 displaying my front door's security camera feed on the Foscam or IP Cam apps, and it won't charge up the N7 with the screen on all day, so I have to turn it off at night. I should plug it in, but it probably saves me a few dollars a year by keeping it off at night, so whatever. Stay clear of this if you can even find one for sale right now.
Various wireless car docks - from CHOEtech to a DIY job I made, none of these ever seemed to be able to charge up my phones when using GPS, streaming Google Play Music, Bluetooth on, and screen on for hours on end. I made a post in this thread about it, and have a full review of it on Amazon here for the more in-depth review of wireless car chargers, and this should apply to most of them out now. Anyone who disagrees isn't keeping their screen on or using it as heavily as I do in the car, bottom line.
Qi Wireless Charging Pad Mat Charger (1A Current US Plug) - If the link doesn't work, search using that title. So after spending hundreds of dollars on wireless chargers, surely you can't think that this cheap-o Qi charger that costs only $10 shipped will work on these expensive, high tech phones and tablets, right? WRONG. This is literally the only charger that works for me. No kidding. My S6 is in front of me at the computer at home and it works great. Fully charged and not beeping to alert me. Not losing battery because it's fully charged and stops charging. Will charge up the phone relatively well when low on battery, as long as you aren't killing it with keeping the screen on. Is this a catch-all solution? Probably not, but it works and nothing else does. How is that possible, with all the tech spent on developing the Nexus charger, the Tylt Vu, hell, the OEM Samsung one?
Am I the only one having such bad luck with these? Is this a Samsung issue that requires an update to fix? Is my house cursed? Look, I'm sure this doesn't sound right to many of you, and there will be some disagreements, but these are my actual first hand experiences. I'm not doing this for the fun of it or to piss members or even companies making these chargers off, I'm doing this because this is what I've had to deal with and after too many mornings waking up earlier than my alarm was set for because my phone is beeping and waking me up or having to leave for the day without a full charge on my phone, it is very frustrating!
I'm certainly open to the idea that Samsung has screwed up something hardware or software related with this iteration of Galaxy S phones, and it isn't something that I can or should blame these chargers on. I get that. I'm also giving up my experiences here so anyone thinking about one of these can see there MAY be an issue with them since at least one person (myself) has had an issue. If you have one of these and it works for you, great! It doesn't work for me, and I'm out hundreds of dollars and searching for another way to get this working on this device. Hopefully this is an easy fix for Samsung or can be fixed via root (I know my S5 had lots of Wanam Xposed-related features for disabling sounds and backlights when placed on a charger, and maybe you're not having the issues because it's already fixed for those who don't have root available yet.
EDIT - I've moved on from this phone and removed my subscription to this post, you're all on your own with this thing now.... I couldn't stand all the issues I was having with wireless charging amongst AT&T locking this thing down and preventing me from getting 5.1.1, so I had to kick this to the curb, good luck everyone!
Thanks for your review. Very, very useful.
As from my point of view - I'm happy with this one
will look into.. but the last week I had always 100%
I have the Verizon Wireless branded wireless charger stand http://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/verizon-qi-wireless-charging-stand/
And it's not caused me any problems. Keeps a charge going even after hitting 100% though I'm not sure about any beeps since my phone is on vibrate nearly all day. I'll have to try it without being on vibrate to see if it beeps more consistently once charged.
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I have 2 different style chargers that are NOT in your list. Both of these work great for me. I did have an issue charging with the Speck Candyshell Grip case but I have since replaced my case with a OBLIQ case off Amazon and it works flawlessly with these two chargers.
First is the RAVPower RP-WCN15 Qi Wireless Charging Pad Stand
http://www.amazon.com/RAVPower-RP-W...430077011&sr=8-3&keywords=ravpower+qi+charger
Second is the CHOE Stadium Qi Wireless Charger
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JA7HNZO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The best advice I can give when it comes to wireless charging....
1. Get a 3 coil charger
2. Make sure your case will work with them
cbdudek said:
I have 2 different style chargers that are NOT in your list. Both of these work great for me. I did have an issue charging with the Speck Candyshell Grip case but I have since replaced my case with a OBLIQ case off Amazon and it works flawlessly with these two chargers.
First is the RAVPower RP-WCN15 Qi Wireless Charging Pad Stand
http://www.amazon.com/RAVPower-RP-W...430077011&sr=8-3&keywords=ravpower+qi+charger
Second is the CHOE Stadium Qi Wireless Charger
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JA7HNZO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The best advice I can give when it comes to wireless charging....
1. Get a 3 coil charger
2. Make sure your case will work with them
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I'll have to look into the first one, as I loved my Tylt Vu's because they were stands - the one working charger for me is flat and while I can rig something to prop it up, it's still not as nice as a charger made that way from the factory. That being said, for something that expensive (not compared to the Tylt, I know, but compared to the Itian A6 I found on Amazon as well), I wish it didn't look like something slapped together. It doesn't have that $40 value to me, and I'm concerned already that things work okay for some and not for others, so I'm going to hold off on taking a chance on it for now. May revisit, but as it is, I'm probably going to stick with a cable dock until some type of update comes through from Samsung / ATT.
As for the second charger, that's nice looking, but for nearly 3 times the price of the cheap-o one I found, meaning you can get nearly three of the cheap ones for that price, I'd pass on the CHOEtech. Maybe that's just me being negative about my feelings towards them when they tried to get their wireless car dock working for me, but that's where I'm at I guess. Great customer service and after refunding me, they sent me a FREE car dock to test out, but it was still having the same issues.
Lastly, great advice at the bottom of your post, I didn't mention that, but you're right, regardless of what chargers you go with.
I have the Itian charger at work, no issues at all there.
Also using a one of the older Samsung charger at night (think it was one I got with the note 3), again all good and fully charged in the morning. I've got a Spigen clear case on the phone too
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KryptosXLayer2 said:
I'll have to look into the first one, as I loved my Tylt Vu's because they were stands - the one working charger for me is flat and while I can rig something to prop it up, it's still not as nice as a charger made that way from the factory. That being said, for something that expensive (not compared to the Tylt, I know, but compared to the Itian A6 I found on Amazon as well), I wish it didn't look like something slapped together. It doesn't have that $40 value to me, and I'm concerned already that things work okay for some and not for others, so I'm going to hold off on taking a chance on it for now. May revisit, but as it is, I'm probably going to stick with a cable dock until some type of update comes through from Samsung / ATT.
As for the second charger, that's nice looking, but for nearly 3 times the price of the cheap-o one I found, meaning you can get nearly three of the cheap ones for that price, I'd pass on the CHOEtech. Maybe that's just me being negative about my feelings towards them when they tried to get their wireless car dock working for me, but that's where I'm at I guess. Great customer service and after refunding me, they sent me a FREE car dock to test out, but it was still having the same issues.
Lastly, great advice at the bottom of your post, I didn't mention that, but you're right, regardless of what chargers you go with.
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Ok, you will have to excuse me if I overstep my bounds here, but I am going to sum up what you said.
Both chargers are verified working, but they "don't have a value to you" because they are too expensive?
You have already dropped a lot of cash on other brands, so what makes these two chargers better than the rest? I have no idea. Maybe I was lucky. Either way, before I bought wireless chargers, I went into the accessories area of the S6 and S6 edge and read what people had and what worked and what didn't. The Tylt Vu was an epic failure. There were some people who bought those cheap $10 Duracell mats and were upset. The RAVPower and CHOE chargers were verified working and working well. I now exclusively wirelessly charge my phone without worry or issue.
It just seemed like you were dismissing my findings as being "too expensive". IMHO, you have to pay for quality. Which is why docks like the Tylt Vu should have worked right out of the box for the S6 and S6 edge, but in both accessories forum areas, neither one is working.
I really don't think its the S6 Edge alone. I think it may be the S6 device line as a whole.
I think the case makes a HUGE difference too.
Frankly, if you're waking up to a device that drains 30-40% overnight while you're sleeping (really more like in 5 or 6 hours after being charged), you've got bigger issues than whatever your wireless charging problems are.
My device is fully charged when I wakeup and pick it up off of my Samsung Wireless Charging Pad, and it certainly isn't losing 5-8% of its charge per hour of doing nothing.
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Ok, you will have to excuse me if I overstep my bounds here, but I am going to sum up what you said.
Both chargers are verified working, but they "don't have a value to you" because they are too expensive?
I think the case makes a HUGE difference too.
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I guess I've just been burned too many times with paying so much for stuff that just isn't working for me but is for others.... Probably doesn't make any sense like I suggested it wouldn't, but I just bought a gorgeous looking wired charger that barring something stupid from the reputable manufacturer, I know will work without question. There were enough people saying the Tylt worked just fine for them but 4 of them didn't for me, that I've got a bad enough taste in my mouth from wireless chargers that I'm not interested in spending any more money at this time. I am an Amazon Prime member, I could easily get it in 2 days test it out, and report back, but I've just lost hope for any of them right now unfortunately!
I'm glad they worked for you though, and that you posted on this thread because others will certainly benefit from your experience just as they will benefit from being cautious or avoiding entirely some of the ones I've mentioned in the OP.
I'm not disagreeing with you on casing making a difference in wireless charging, I just know I was experiencing the same issues before I even considered buying a case and I'm not about to take it off every time I want to charge it. The whole point of wireless charging is to be as lazy as possible when placing your phone down to charge, and having to take off the case means that charger fails for me if you use a case like I am for the very first time ever for any Samsung phone.
I see where you are coming from. I hope you didn't take offense to my reply. It just was a little shocking that I got a "oh, those chargers work? Sorry, not a value to me" when you have been dropping the same if not more money on other chargers.
I am still new to wireless charging, so I don't know if these chargers will work with other devices. I also don't know if these issues are isolated to the S6 line, S6 Edge, or not isolated at all. Either way, all I hope is that people who have these phones do find chargers that work with their devices.
My wireless charger does not stop charging after the device is fully charged.
Using this one:-
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B00PUA06TA
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I'm waiting for someone to test these:
http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/categories/departments/wireless_charging/30611/
Really liking the look of that RIGGAD lamp.
I have a tylt charger as well. And it usually works flawlessly, charged to 100% in the morning. Though ive been having issues connecting a second time ( when you pick it up to do something with the phone, and put it back you get a red Light instead of the green one) now what worked for me, although it's not the most practical solution, was putting the phone upside down in the charger.
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crumble6 said:
I'm waiting for someone to test these:
http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/categories/departments/wireless_charging/30611/
Really liking the look of that RIGGAD lamp.
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Leave it to the Swedes to come up with something so awesome and consumer friendly! That is great, thank you for sharing that, for those in the US, the link to all of them is right here:
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/search/?query=+Wireless+charger
Check out the prices on the battery covers at the bottom - not that we need them for the S6, but still, great prices for other / older devices!
cbdudek said:
I have 2 different style chargers that are NOT in your list. Both of these work great for me. I did have an issue charging with the Speck Candyshell Grip case but I have since replaced my case with a OBLIQ case off Amazon and it works flawlessly with these two chargers.
First is the RAVPower RP-WCN15 Qi Wireless Charging Pad Stand
http://www.amazon.com/RAVPower-RP-W...430077011&sr=8-3&keywords=ravpower+qi+charger
Second is the CHOE Stadium Qi Wireless Charger
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JA7HNZO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The best advice I can give when it comes to wireless charging....
1. Get a 3 coil charger
2. Make sure your case will work with them
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I also have the RAV charger stand and have had no problems... my s6e stays in its ringke case on the stand and charges without fuss. I'm not sure what happens when it hits 100%... I use the app Gentle Alarm, which keeps everything I want quiet and black while allowing the phone to ring and alarm to sound. I am sure my phone is at 100% in the morning.
I've been using the airdock 2.0 in my vehicle... and get do get positive charging gain even with BT connected for media and phone and running Waze for navigation and traffic (again, with case on)
hchxoom said:
I also have the RAV charger stand and have had no problems... my s6e stays in its ringke case on the stand and charges without fuss. I'm not sure what happens when it hits 100%... I use the app Gentle Alarm, which keeps everything I want quiet and black while allowing the phone to ring and alarm to sound. I am sure my phone is at 100% in the morning.
I've been using the airdock 2.0 in my vehicle... and get do get positive charging gain even with BT connected for media and phone and running Waze for navigation and traffic (again, with case on)
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I had the Speck Candyshell case and that had some issues with wireless charging. I think it was because it was the rubber on the case or the thickness of the case. Either way, the OBLIQ case works much better for me.
When it comes to wireless charging and issues with it, I know I would be interested to find out what kind of cases everyone has, if any. I am pretty new to wireless charging, and before I blame the phone, I would like to find out what others have when it comes to cases.
On a side note, I have a friend who has an Incipio Ghost 120 and that is just a single coil charger, and yet my phone has no issues charging on that either. Either I have gotten lucky with chargers, or some people have cases that are interfering with the wireless charging, or some people have bad phones.
So I bought the Samsung wireless charging pad with my S6 edge last week and was noticing the same issue of waking up with my battery at 70%-75%. I hadn't considered that it was charging fully and then just draining back down. I assumed that it was just not charging all the way, but this assumption was only based on only 3 nights of use.
I returned my first edge (black), and got a new one (gold platinum). After about a week of use with my current phone, I haven't noticed the same issue. I'm waking up with a full charge every morning.
As others have reported defects in new devices, is it possible that some of these wireless charging issues could be defects as well?
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As others have reported defects in new devices, is it possible that some of these wireless charging issues could be defects as well?
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At this point, I would say this is the most likely explanation.
Thanks for the heads up on the official charger, sounds like a ball ache.
I'm using an IKEA wireless charging lamp and I can confirm it works a treat, even when the phone is in a case.