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Hi,
So I've read the FCC documents located here: LINK
Page 1 and Page 5 are the most interesting! These state that the Verizon model SCH-i545 will have AWS band 4 (of course 13 too) which does support T-mobiles LTE network right? It never states 1700/1200 frequencies.
Thing I want to know from the pros is will this phone indeed offer LTE support for T-Mobile or and I'm just seeing things?
Also, for all the other people that are wondering if the ATT model will offer LTE support for T-Mobile as well? It will since it supports both bands 4 and 17 But wait is that AWS band 4?... the jury is out on that! -_-
Many Thanks
Becool0130 said:
Hi,
So I've read the FCC documents located here: LINK
Page 1 and Page 5 are the most interesting! These state that the Verizon model SCH-i545 will have AWS band 4 (of course 13 too) which does support T-mobiles LTE network right? It never states 1700/1200 frequencies.
Thing I want to know from the pros is will this phone indeed offer LTE support for T-Mobile or and I'm just seeing things?
Also, for all the other people that are wondering if the ATT model will offer LTE support for T-Mobile as well? It will since it supports both bands 4 and 17 But wait is that AWS band 4?... the jury is out on that! -_-
Many Thanks
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If I am correct, Verizon phones do not use sim cards (CDMA) and AT&T and T-Mobile are GMS (sim phones). So even if the bands are supported, I don't see how a Verizon phone would work on T-Mobile or AT&T unless they are CDMA / GSM dual phones. And even then they would have to be unlocked.
scott14719 said:
If I am correct, Verizon phones do not use sim cards (CDMA) and AT&T and T-Mobile are GMS (sim phones). So even if the bands are supported, I don't see how a Verizon phone would work on T-Mobile or AT&T unless they are CDMA / GSM dual phones. And even then they would have to be unlocked.
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All of the major Verizon releases over the past year have come GSM unlocked. They are world phones that contain GSM and CDMA radios. I'm using a Verizon iPhone 5 on the Straight Talk (AT&T) network currently.
All lte phones have sim cards as it is a gsm technology. My girls verizon gs3 has a sim. As far as it being compatible that is a hell of a question.
OneStepAhead said:
All of the major Verizon releases over the past year have come GSM unlocked. They are world phones that contain GSM and CDMA radios. I'm using a Verizon iPhone 5 on the Straight Talk (AT&T) network currently.
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Yes! I sold my iPhone 4s to get Samsung galaxy s4 and it sold to someone over in the UK world (Ireland) that says it works! Lol.
I've also seen threads about sim unlocking the Verizon S3 for domestic and international use. Some people use HiAPN as system app along with other steps and viola... Working on whatever network you want
Question is... Am I seeing right that Verizon S4 will support AWS Band 4 for t-mobile?
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OneStepAhead said:
All of the major Verizon releases over the past year have come GSM unlocked. They are world phones that contain GSM and CDMA radios. I'm using a Verizon iPhone 5 on the Straight Talk (AT&T) network currently.
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Hey this is one question i have lingering on my mind. How is the StraightTalk connection? Is it any good? Are there call drop issues? And do they have data plans?
if i buy a tmobile s4 will it work on verizon??
I know most things are under the catagory of speculation/rumor but i was wanting to to check out tmobile network for a bit.... the no contract is appealing. If i bought the phone outright and ending up not liking tmobile i would switch to verizon. Short of selling the tmobile and getting a verizon phone i was wondering about just activating the same phone on verizon?
Will there be "one phone" in US or would they all have thier own modem chips i guess is the real question....
thanks for the guesses and speculat'n!
You have to consider its Verizon and they have 700Mhz LTE and you can't roam on AT&T's 700Mhz so I would not expect to access Verizons AWS spectrum on T-Mobile or vice versa. Remember when they said LTE was the unifying spectrum to allow for easier use across networks and carriers, well that was a pile of BS.
Great news, but I heard verizon was purposely going to burn in their logo onto the amoled screens.
RaptorMD said:
You have to consider its Verizon and they have 700Mhz LTE and you can't roam on AT&T's 700Mhz so I would not expect to access Verizons AWS spectrum on T-Mobile or vice versa.
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Wrong: those "700mhz" frequencies are different bands. Both T-Mobile and Verizon are building out LTE on the same band: 4 (AWS). They will be interoperable device-wise.
AT&T also owns a lot of AWS, and though they're currently running LTE on it only in one market (somewhere in Oklahoma IIRC), all their LTE devices do come with band 4 enabled.
The more I read about the differences, the more I'm convinced that the Verizon model is more cross compatible with all other services. It's still the only CDMA model. But it's also gsm unlocked if you know how to program APNs. Any thoughts?
jerzyboy2421 said:
The more I read about the differences, the more I'm convinced that the Verizon model is more cross compatible with all other services. It's still the only CDMA model. But it's also gsm unlocked if you know how to program APNs. Any thoughts?
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I posted a pretty detailed analyzation of the LTE bands the different GS4 models work with here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40974831#post40974831
if we ever get to the point where we don't need 3g at all any more (CDMA) and we can get VoLTE and use the LTE band exclusively that will eliminate a lot of the incompatability between Verizon and GSM carriers .
Parafly said:
if we ever get to the point where we don't need 3g at all any more (CDMA) and we can get VoLTE and use the LTE band exclusively that will eliminate a lot of the incompatability between Verizon and GSM carriers .
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When we get to that point, Verizon will basically be a GSM carrier. Considering LTE is just an evolution GSM, both developed by 3GPP.
camaroz28 said:
When we get to that point, Verizon will basically be a GSM carrier. Considering LTE is just an evolution GSM, both developed by 3GPP.
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When it gets to that point, the question is will LTE then become open so Google can sell a Nexus that works on every network without carriers involved?
Schoat333 said:
When it gets to that point, the question is will LTE then become open so Google can sell a Nexus that works on every network without carriers involved?
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Not just Google...all the manufacturers could do it. But...don't get your hopes up. That situation is not in the carriers' nor major manufacturers' interests, and they sit on the standards bodies. No one represents the users/customers.
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scott14719 said:
If I am correct, Verizon phones do not use sim cards (CDMA) and AT&T and T-Mobile are GMS (sim phones). So even if the bands are supported, I don't see how a Verizon phone would work on T-Mobile or AT&T unless they are CDMA / GSM dual phones. And even then they would have to be unlocked.
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Verizon does use sim cards I am in the process of trying to unlock
SCH-I545 On T-Mobile
i Have This phone running on T-Mobile and have notice it does pick up AWS but very limied when compared to a T-Mobile branded phone... im wondering if anyone has tested flashing the T-Mobile modem??
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No need to unlock just go into settings on the phone and under mobile networks their should be a tab that says prefered network.... click it and select global....
I have a VZW Note 2 and because of declining coverage in my area they have told me I can leave ETF free (engineer said I was in a marginal coverage area).
My phone is currently rooted and running beans 17.
That said, I just bought this phone 2 months ago and would like to take it to another carrier, so I was wondering ..
What modifications besides APN edits I would have to do?
Will it work on Sprint? T-Mobile? AT&T?
What speeds will I get on each network? (LTE - 3G - HSPA - HSPA+ - 2G(eww))
Thanks in advance for any assistance you all would be willing to offer.
Milimbar said:
I have a VZW Note 2 and because of declining coverage in my area they have told me I can leave ETF free (engineer said I was in a marginal coverage area).
My phone is currently rooted and running beans 17.
That said, I just bought this phone 2 months ago and would like to take it to another carrier, so I was wondering ..
What modifications besides APN edits I would have to do?
Will it work on Sprint? T-Mobile? AT&T?
What speeds will I get on each network? (LTE - 3G - HSPA - HSPA+ - 2G(eww))
Thanks in advance for any assistance you all would be willing to offer.
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I know gsm phones are interchangeable ( att & tmo ) as far as Verizon I don't think it will work on anything other then Verizon since they r sim less and use different network styles pretty much I think u will need a new device or stick with Verizon
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oddspec said:
I know gsm phones are interchangeable ( att & tmo ) as far as Verizon I don't think it will work on anything other then Verizon since they r sim less and use different network styles pretty much I think u will need a new device or stick with Verizon
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I know that VZW Note 2 was released with GSM radios as well as CDMA, what frequencies it supports I do not know. One of the reasons i bought it was it was supposedly a "world phone"
Milimbar said:
I know that VZW Note 2 was released with GSM radios as well as CDMA, what frequencies it supports I do not know. One of the reasons i bought it was it was supposedly a "world phone"
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By world phone it probably like the HTC one has a few limited gsm bands for over seas I mite be able to pick up service with att or tmo but without ( research what bands it can receive ) full spectrum band support ur service mite be worse that what u have now and doubtful u get crap for data speeds probably 2g only
Go to a phone website that compares phones and click the note 2for all carriers they should list what bands each device can receive it will give u a better idea
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Milimbar said:
I know that VZW Note 2 was released with GSM radios as well as CDMA, what frequencies it supports I do not know. One of the reasons i bought it was it was supposedly a "world phone"
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You are correct and the other poster is incorrect. The Verizon Note 2 supports:
LTE: Band 13 (700MHz); CDMA 1x/EVDO Rev A, Dual-band: 800/1900MHz; HSPA+/UMTS Quad-band: 850/900/1900/2100MHz; GSM Quad-band: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
So, you would only get 4G LTE on Verizon because it only supports Band 13, which is Verizon's part of the spectrum. Other service should be 3G.
jcollier said:
You are correct and the other poster is incorrect. The Verizon Note 2 supports:
LTE: Band 13 (700MHz); CDMA 1x/EVDO Rev A, Dual-band: 800/1900MHz; HSPA+/UMTS Quad-band: 850/900/1900/2100MHz; GSM Quad-band: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
So, you would only get 4G LTE on Verizon because it only supports Band 13, which is Verizon's part of the spectrum. Other service should be 3G.
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Thx for correcting me I wasnt sure I only know about gsm phones and was trying to help glad u posted !
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Going to switch to Net10 using AT&T service, hopefully I will be able to pick up HSPA+ data.
Milimbar said:
I have a VZW Note 2 and because of declining coverage in my area they have told me I can leave ETF free (engineer said I was in a marginal coverage area).
My phone is currently rooted and running beans 17.
That said, I just bought this phone 2 months ago and would like to take it to another carrier, so I was wondering ..
What modifications besides APN edits I would have to do?
Will it work on Sprint? T-Mobile? AT&T?
What speeds will I get on each network? (LTE - 3G - HSPA - HSPA+ - 2G(eww))
Thanks in advance for any assistance you all would be willing to offer.
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I know I have stuffed my T-Mobile SIM into mine, and it was capable of achieving HSPA speed but then the new"er" T-Mobile towers in my area run on the 1900mhz spectrum. In certain areas when traveling EDGE (2G) is what I end up with. To set it up I followed the steps in another post here on XDA, but I don't still have that link. If you decide to try out T-Mobile you could use the tips on this thread: Verizon i605 Note 2 on T-Mobile Network
I picked T-Mobile because I could just walk into Walmart and buy an activation kit with Sim Card for $30, and it was just $30 a month for 100min Talk & Unlimited Text+ 5Gigs 4G Speed + Unlimited 3G Speed
Thanks for the reply,
I would love to use T-mobile service but it is only 2g where I am at.
I have been doing some research and it seems AT&T is rolling out a new prepaid option in a new company called AIO wireless. They seem to have decent pricing and unlimited data but at the moment are only in a few cities.
They are also updating the GoPhone plans on the 20th, so I might just wait around and see if any better options pop up this month before I make the move.
Hey everyone,
I just searched this topic and didn't find any definitive answers so I thought I'd ask...
Anyways is the VZW Galaxy S4 SIM unlocked out of the box? I keep reading the new VZW releases in 2012 and onwards are according to the VZW forums and website but then I found a post of someone asking VZW for an unlock. It its an official code its easier to just ask VZW as I meet all the requirements (1+ year customer). Also I read that on the S3 the APN settings are blocked on the default VZW firmware unless rooted. Is the APN settings on the S4 open (changeable) by default?
Also what's a realistic battery life you guys are getting out of this phone?
Am comparing phones and need a phone that is:
1. SIM Unlocked and APN settings changable that has VZW's US CDMA and LTE bands PLUS ALL the international bands (the 4 GSM and 4 UMTS international bands).
2. Has HSPA+21 at least.
3. Long battery life to last the day.
4. Rootable so I can get rid of VZW crap and increase the battery life.
I've also not seen any international VZW phones with HSPA+42 dual carrier like Apple's iPhone 5. I'm also debating getting a Android versus iOS phone...
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Recently took my S4 to Brazil and spent a fair bit of time talking to Verizon Global Support before the trip. One of the questions I asked was whether the phone was SIM unlocked so that I could purchase a SIM card while in Brazil and use local service down there. The VZW rep assured me the phone was indeed unlocked, but I did not use a Brazilian SIM card while on travel so I cannot confirm via personal experience.
I can confirm that it is unlocked. I put an active att sim card in, that then allowed me to add the correct apn info. I was then able to make calls and use data.
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willzzz88 said:
Hey everyone,
I just searched this topic and didn't find any definitive answers so I thought I'd ask...
Anyways is the VZW Galaxy S4 SIM unlocked out of the box? I keep reading the new VZW releases in 2012 and onwards are according to the VZW forums and website but then I found a post of someone asking VZW for an unlock. It its an official code its easier to just ask VZW as I meet all the requirements (1+ year customer). Also I read that on the S3 the APN settings are blocked on the default VZW firmware unless rooted. Is the APN settings on the S4 open (changeable) by default?
Also what's a realistic battery life you guys are getting out of this phone?
Am comparing phones and need a phone that is:
1. SIM Unlocked and APN settings changable that has VZW's US CDMA and LTE bands PLUS ALL the international bands (the 4 GSM and 4 UMTS international bands).
2. Has HSPA+21 at least.
3. Long battery life to last the day.
4. Rootable so I can get rid of VZW crap and increase the battery life.
I've also not seen any international VZW phones with HSPA+42 dual carrier like Apple's iPhone 5. I'm also debating getting a Android versus iOS phone...
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The SCH-I545 has Quad band GSM/EDGE frequency's (850/900/1800/1900) and Quad band UMTS/HSPA (850/900/1900/2100) As well as AWS bands for LTE (1700/2100) so it should get LTE on T-Mobile. However, it does not have the capabilities to get LTE on AT&T since the SCH-I545 does not have the frequency's to operate on AT&T's LTE network but it will get HSPA+ on both networks. It will work on Sprint as well but it will not get LTE since its two LTE bands, (700 and 1700/2100), are not compatible. Sprint operates on the same CDMA/ Ev-Do bands as VZW so you will get 3G. I can confirm that i have used the SCH-I545 with an AT&T SIM card and i got HSPA+ speeds.
echo1030 said:
The SCH-I545 has Quad band GSM/EDGE frequency's (850/900/1800/1900) and Quad band UMTS/HSPA (850/900/1900/2100) As well as AWS bands for LTE (1700/2100) so it should get LTE on T-Mobile. However, it does not have the capabilities to get LTE on AT&T since the SCH-I545 does not have the frequency's to operate on AT&T's LTE network but it will get HSPA+ on both networks. It will work on Sprint as well but it will not get LTE since its two LTE bands, (700 and 1700/2100), are not compatible. Sprint operates on the same CDMA/ Ev-Do bands as VZW so you will get 3G. I can confirm that i have used the SCH-I545 with an AT&T SIM card and i got HSPA+ speeds.
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The AWS is there but not activated yet. for now you will only get EDGE on t-mobile unless in a refarmed are you will pickup HSPA. you will however pickup all AWS tis summer when verizon activates that band on our phone.
SOURCE: I'm on the 30$ a month prepaid with t-mobile. edge sucks but it works.
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Silentgray said:
I can confirm that it is unlocked. I put an active att sim card in, that then allowed me to add the correct apn info. I was then able to make calls and use data.
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Hi,
I have had the same outcome, voice and data work, BUT data is only HPSA+ at best. Do you get 4G LTE or found a way to get it?
Thanks!
ddckylec said:
Hi,
I have had the same outcome, voice and data work, BUT data is only HPSA+ at best. Do you get 4G LTE or found a way to get it?
Thanks!
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No, but that is because i am not in an area where ATT has LTE turned on. South Dakota is still on the waiting list. Verizon uses different frequencies for LTE then ATT does.
Verizon has never locked their phones, even the CDMA ones. If you put a non Verizon SIM in you can change the APN settings
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So I'm interested in the XA ultra, but I'm on Verizon. I checked out the LTE bands on it and it has 3 LTE bands including 700mhz band 13. My nexus 6 uses volte, will the XA? I'm not worried about CDMA, unless I'm unaware of text services or something weird that need CDMA. I've also heard that Verizon only allows approved phones, any idea if that applies to service or just new activation? Any feedback from any one that has tried, or just any useful info would be awesome.
I'm pretty sure it will only work on gsm.
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Hi again... I went into town, I'm on Virgin which is an EE virtual provider. And the town should be coverd by 4G from EE... So any reason why my phone cant get find LTE?
I get H+ but thats it.
NutsyUK said:
Hi again... I went into town, I'm on Virgin which is an EE virtual provider. And the town should be coverd by 4G from EE... So any reason why my phone cant get find LTE?
I get H+ but thats it.
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Are you a new or existing virgin mobile user. If existing did you get a new SIM from Virgin? As they need to issue a new one to you if you want to go 4G.
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Yeah I got the new sim...
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Yeah I got the new sim...
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There was also something else I read (virgin user here to - currently non 4G) about having to wait until your next billing cycle until you can begin using 4G services. Annoying and I've seen lots of people complaining as they have to wait to their refresh date which could be anywhere up to a few weeks.
Probably stating the obvious but have you selected the LTE option under (preferred network type) mobile network settings?
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Yep LTE set as preferred
Also I ordered the sim before my last billing date. The sim turned up about a week after the billing date.
Maybe the next billing date?
NutsyUK said:
Yep LTE set as preferred
Also I ordered the sim before my last billing date. The sim turned up about a week after the billing date.
Maybe the next billing date?
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Possibly yeah, that's the only thing I can think off. Worth it to keep trying the odd reboot or switching in and out of aeroplane mode in case that helps it kick in.
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Check what LTE bands Virgin uses and see if the Redmi Note 4 is compatible with said bands. I'm on T-Mobile and the Note 4 does not support it's LTE.
TheSorton said:
Check what LTE bands Virgin uses and see if the Redmi Note 4 is compatible with said bands. I'm on T-Mobile and the Note 4 does not support it's LTE.
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They use EE's, who use bands *3(1800) and 7(2600), so definitely compatible.
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Have u checked to use another provider?
i have a similar issue, not all providers that have these bands listed use them in all locations, i am with Rogers in canada who does have band 7, which this phone has, but they only have it in certain areas, not the full coverage, so i sit on 3g a lot.
Check this site, i shows that your provider also has limited coverage on the available bands. willmyphonework.net
I have the same issue. I'm with Three and it keeps dropping to H+ far too regularly.
Had this sim for a while and worked perfectly well on my Jiayu S3.
T3rry1 said:
i have a similar issue, not all providers that have these bands listed use them in all locations, i am with Rogers in canada who does have band 7, which this phone has, but they only have it in certain areas, not the full coverage, so i sit on 3g a lot.
Check this site, i shows that your provider also has limited coverage on the available bands. willmyphonework.net
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It happens to me. What I found from google, it said Note 4 Hardware supports Band 4 and Band 7, but the miui 8 locks them.
Still looking for a way to open those bands.
Galaxy_Galaxy said:
It happens to me. What I found from google, it said Note 4 Hardware supports Band 4 and Band 7, but the miui 8 locks them.
Still looking for a way to open those bands.
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Band 7 should be supported and usable but I doubt the hardware supports band 4.
You should have gotten the Redmi Note 3 instead, the Chinese version supports band 4, 7 and 40 out of the bands used in Canada, and the Special Edition ("international version") supports bands 2, 4, 7 and 40. The Chinese model also supports 3G on band 4 (1700/AWS).
T3rry1 said:
i have a similar issue, not all providers that have these bands listed use them in all locations, i am with Rogers in canada who does have band 7, which this phone has, but they only have it in certain areas, not the full coverage, so i sit on 3g a lot.
Check this site, i shows that your provider also has limited coverage on the available bands. willmyphonework.net
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FIDO does not support band 7 too, (even though some sites said Fido supports band 7)
My friend is using Bell, his phone shows 4G instead of 3G.