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I apologize if this has been answered somewhere else here before. I have been searching for days and have not found the full answers to my questions anywhere.
Recently I updated my GT-P7510 CM9 to an experimental CM10 from by pershoot. After getting it up and running I was looking at my internal storage usage and numbers didn't seem to add up (must have done a dirty flash at some point in the past to cause this). My internal storage in root explorer showed 8.93gb in use and 28.01 total storage. I copied everything to a USB drive to back it up and noticed there was only 7.45gb actually on the internal storage. I have seen this problem before on my S2, and I always just reformat the internal SD card (emmc) to regain the missing space. However, since the tab does not have a micro SD slot, I have no way of wiping the internal sdcard (data/media) without wiping out the rom too from how I understand it. Somebody correct me if I am wrong...
So, does anybody know of a way to successfully wipe/format the sdcard (data/media directory) in CWM or other method that will not wipe out the rom and send the device straight to cwm with no way to install a new rom? Or do I have to revert back to stock to accomplish the format of sdcard like I have read for a few other similar situations? Everything works fine (CM10 & CM9 both run awesome), I just want that extra 1.48gb of missing/phantom storage back. And, without mass storage mode, I cannot perform a disk check in win7. This has really got me frustrated to find a solution without having to start over. I wish this tab had a micro SD slot!
Currently I am running CM9 nightlies (7-31) for p4wifi (gt-p7510). My cwm recovery is version 6.0.1.0. Any help is greatly appreciated, and I do apologize if this has been covered before. Thanks in advance to those of you smarter than I.
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Ok, I seemed to have figured this one out and now feel pretty stupid for not digging a bit further before asking.
After I decided to go ahead with the sdcard format using CWM, I noticed that the space was still being used somewhere. After I started to dig a bit, I noticed that all of my apps still worked after the format. Basically, the extra space is being consumed by the /data/app folder housing all user apps. CWM must be designed to ignore this directory when formatting the internal sdcard which is why there was still some storage being used.
I feel like an ubernoob for asking this, but my S2's internal sdcard is not mapped to data/media, so I had to learn a bit better about how this thing works I suppose. Anyways, I hope this information can be useful to someone out there having similar questions.
bkress said:
I apologize if this has been answered somewhere else here before. I have been searching for days and have not found the full answers to my questions anywhere.
Recently I updated my GT-P7510 CM9 to an experimental CM10 from by pershoot. After getting it up and running I was looking at my internal storage usage and numbers didn't seem to add up (must have done a dirty flash at some point in the past to cause this). My internal storage in root explorer showed 8.93gb in use and 28.01 total storage. I copied everything to a USB drive to back it up and noticed there was only 7.45gb actually on the internal storage. I have seen this problem before on my S2, and I always just reformat the internal SD card (emmc) to regain the missing space. However, since the tab does not have a micro SD slot, I have no way of wiping the internal sdcard (data/media) without wiping out the rom too from how I understand it. Somebody correct me if I am wrong...
So, does anybody know of a way to successfully wipe/format the sdcard (data/media directory) in CWM or other method that will not wipe out the rom and send the device straight to cwm with no way to install a new rom? Or do I have to revert back to stock to accomplish the format of sdcard like I have read for a few other similar situations? Everything works fine (CM10 & CM9 both run awesome), I just want that extra 1.48gb of missing/phantom storage back. And, without mass storage mode, I cannot perform a disk check in win7. This has really got me frustrated to find a solution without having to start over. I wish this tab had a micro SD slot!
Currently I am running CM9 nightlies (7-31) for p4wifi (gt-p7510). My cwm recovery is version 6.0.1.0. Any help is greatly appreciated, and I do apologize if this has been covered before. Thanks in advance to those of you smarter than I.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1804824 Here's a topic about same problem,could say,U'll finde in replays all the information u need!
Vinchenzo13 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1804824 Here's a topic about same problem,could say,U'll finde in replays all the information u need!
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Although that is a similar problem, I asked if there is a way to fix it without going that route? I appreciate your reply, but I already knew it could be resolved by going back to stock (2nd paragraph of my post).
bkress said:
Although that is a similar problem, I asked if there is a way to fix it without going that route? I appreciate your reply, but I already knew it could be resolved by going back to stock (2nd paragraph of my post).
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Ow sorry didnt notice few words,i think u could just flash a cwm via odin wich can wipe/reset all data if im not mistaking,
I'll chek this out is there any cwm'ds who can do that,coz i rememba reading one forum where guy was complaining that he did wipe and everything was formated!
Vinchenzo13 said:
Ow sorry didnt notice few words,i think u could just flash a cwm via odin wich can wipe/reset all data if im not mistaking,
I'll chek this out is there any cwm'ds who can do that,coz i rememba reading one forum where guy was complaining that he did wipe and everything was formated!
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I can accomplish a full format of the internal sdcard on my galaxy s2 without it affecting the rom in any way whatsoever and it is running cwm 6.0.1.0 also. From how I understand it, the partitions are set up differently on the s2 and this device. The s2 has a separate partition for the internal sdcard making it possible to format via cwm. On this device, the sdcard is part of the data partition meaning wiping it will leave you with no rom installed and no storage on the sdcard. I think all versions of cwm can wipe the slate clean, it is just a matter of everything else being wiped clean also. But, if you are aware of a cwm that let's me accomplish this, I would love to find it. Thanks again.
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I can accomplish a full format of the internal sdcard on my galaxy s2 without it affecting the rom in any way whatsoever and it is running cwm 6.0.1.0 also. From how I understand it, the partitions are set up differently on the s2 and this device. The s2 has a separate partition for the internal sdcard making it possible to format via cwm. On this device, the sdcard is part of the data partition meaning wiping it will leave you with no rom installed and no storage on the sdcard. I think all versions of cwm can wipe the slate clean, it is just a matter of everything else being wiped clean also. But, if you are aware of a cwm that let's me accomplish this, I would love to find it. Thanks again.
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I have the same issue .. I was manually formatted using my windows 7 laptop.. flash back to old stock samsung firmware.. still 4.11 GB internal USb storage instead of 11.8 GB.. Any help please..
I think it's possible with adb shell (the android sdk for Windows)
Have you seen that : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1003645
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Will a system format wipe my internal sd card? I am rooted with twrp. Sorry for asking such stupid questions. I'm coming from a galaxy nexus where you could make mistakes and it would never brick. I am being much more cautious with my S4. Thanks in advance.
I have the same question as I am also coming from a Galaxy Nexus. I've read it does not, however I haven't read that with someone using it on a S4. Can someone confirm?
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I have the same question as I am also coming from a Galaxy Nexus. I've read it does not, however I haven't read that with someone using it on a S4. Can someone confirm?
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I've wiped data/factory reset, and my internal storage was untouched. But, I'd say its always best to back up anything important, just in case.
How about the external SD Card. I assume that's safe as well.
Wipe data factory reset makes your phone explode. J/k
It won't touch internal or external SD.
Factory Reset will not delete either the internal or external SD card files. So pictures, videos, downloads etc will all be there. However it will clear all apps, their data, and your settings
That's what I figured. I always used CWM, however since they were late to the game with Loki I instealled TWRP (and actually like it a lot compared to CWM so far!)
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That's what I figured. I always used CWM, however since they were late to the game with Loki I instealled TWRP (and actually like it a lot compared to CWM so far!)
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I migrated from CWM about 6 months ago, I definitely prefer TWRP now. I was happy so see how fast Loki support was incorporated for the S4. Already having fun playing with Roms
After wiping everything and installing a fresh copy of hyperdrive 5.7 i started to get low storage notifications. Shows roughly 1gb free space available with misc files being a touch over 11gb. When I click on misc files to see what is hogging up all the room it says system memory is 6.38gb. So there's a 5gb ish difference that unaccounted for. Anyone have any ideas?
I've I tried going back to RLS4 and numbers were nearly identical. Reinstalled 5.7 and no change.
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I assume you did a backup before flashing the new rom, is your recovery set to store backups in the external sd card or the "internal"? I've got TWRP and I'm pretty sure the default was to store it on the internal card. That may account for your missing space.
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I assume you did a backup before flashing the new rom, is your recovery set to store backups in the external sd card or the "internal"? I've got TWRP and I'm pretty sure the default was to store it on the internal card. That may account for your missing space.
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I had the same issue without realizing since I don't have much installed/stored on my phone, but this was the problem. My nandroid backup was still in my internal memory and it was taking up ~3gb worth of memory. So OP, this is probably your issue (like he said, I just figured I'd back him up).
Thats exactly what it was. didnt realize TWRP's default was internal storage.
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amofiav said:
Thats exactly what it was. didnt realize TWRP's default was internal storage.
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I downloaded 5.7 from OTA onto my external sd card. Booted into recovery using ROM manager, wiped all data (x3). wiped cache, and then tried to install the new ROM and received an error. Any idea what is going on here.
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I downloaded 5.7 from OTA onto my external sd card. Booted into recovery using ROM manager, wiped all data (x3). wiped cache, and then tried to install the new ROM and received an error. Any idea what is going on here.
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Welcome to xda, it's hard to answer your question without additional information, like what the error was. Also if you want to get the attention of the Dev for this ROM you'll either want to ask your question on the thread for the ROM or else start a new thread in the Q&A section. Piggybacking your question on an unrelated problem isn't exactly kosher.
@amofiav Glad that was all it took. It is frustrating that so many apps default using the internal card for storage.
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amofiav said:
Thats exactly what it was. didnt realize TWRP's default was internal storage.
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I think I am similarly afflicted! I can't figure how to check this and delete any unwanted files. I have connected my phone to my computer but cannot seem to locate any big unneeded files. I have less than 1 GB left of storage.
Help!
Thanks so much
So the past few weeks has been my first experience with safe strap and everything.I have been using only the Hyperdrive rom. After having some issues with the RS14 update, i had to delete the rom slot and make a new one. Ive noticed that i have a ton of hidden files, because i have almost no space left on the internal storage. anybody have any ideas on how to find and delete these files? I would also like to know what you guys set the slot as, as far as given space. this is the only rom im going to be using so i want to maximize my space.
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So the past few weeks has been my first experience with safe strap and everything.I have been using only the Hyperdrive rom. After having some issues with the RS14 update, i had to delete the rom slot and make a new one. Ive noticed that i have a ton of hidden files, because i have almost no space left on the internal storage. anybody have any ideas on how to find and delete these files? I would also like to know what you guys set the slot as, as far as given space. this is the only rom im going to be using so i want to maximize my space.
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If you do format sdcard that should clear up space (factory reset will not clear them). For the space, Safestrap use the internal storage only, so the O/S, boot etc i would need about 900meg, and the data partition is depended on how many apps you planned to install, let say you assign 1gig for data then the total you need is approx 2gb, if you think you're going to have more apps then assign 2.5 or 3..it's all up to you.
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If you do format sdcard that should clear up space (factory reset will not clear them). For the space, Safestrap use the internal storage only, so the O/S, boot etc i would need about 900meg, and the data partition is depended on how many apps you planned to install, let say you assign 1gig for data then the total you need is approx 2gb, if you think you're going to have more apps then assign 2.5 or 3..it's all up to you.
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the hidden files are in the internal storage, not my sd card.
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If you do format sdcard that should clear up space (factory reset will not clear them). For the space, Safestrap use the internal storage only, so the O/S, boot etc i would need about 900meg, and the data partition is depended on how many apps you planned to install, let say you assign 1gig for data then the total you need is approx 2gb, if you think you're going to have more apps then assign 2.5 or 3..it's all up to you.
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i might just have to do a factory data reset, and start from scratch and reroot and start over. I really dont want to have to do that though
m4gkman said:
i might just have to do a factory data reset, and start from scratch and reroot and start over. I really dont want to have to do that though
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Factory reset won't clear, you need to format sdcard,
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Factory reset won't clear, you need to format sdcard,
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even though the issue isn't in the ext sd card?
m4gkman said:
even though the issue isn't in the ext sd card?
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screenshots taken without sd card in.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/skaterdave/12530759613/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/skaterdave/12530758613/
sorry for the links, the images werent' working
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even though the issue isn't in the ext sd card?
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I don't think you understand the misc files are hidden, there no way you can delete them. When you boot into recovery, do the following:
wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, wipe system and format sdcard. Format sdcard is formatting your INTERNAL space, not your external sdcard. After done reflash rom.
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I don't think you understand the misc files are hidden, there no way you can delete them. When you boot into recovery, do the following:
wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, wipe system and format sdcard. Format sdcard is formatting your INTERNAL space, not your external sdcard. After done reflash rom.
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When i hit wipe on safe strap, is it the format data button, or a full advanced wipe? sorry im asking so many questions, still really new to safestrap.
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When i hit wipe on safe strap, is it the format data button, or a full advanced wipe? sorry im asking so many questions, still really new to safestrap.
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Hey, just want to make sure we're on the same page. A 16gb Galaxy S4 only has 6gb available as stock phone. If you assigned 3gb for safestrap, then you should only have 3gb left for storage. So my question is the junk files are on the new rom (3gb safestrap) or from the original O/S? I don't believe safestrap offers the option to "format internal SDcard". If you want to continue to use safestrap, you should be on top of the storage space. Since I don't know all the junks are from, but I suggest you should start clean; Uninstall safestrap, Odin your phone back to stock ROM using PIT file. Now you should have a super clean phone. Record your storage space to see what's the total space, how much in used and how much free. At this point you should also take a look at app to SD, where all the new apps will be install to your external SDcard instead. From now on after you flash new rom or install safestrap, you should check your storage to have an idea what used up the space.
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Hey, just want to make sure we're on the same page. A 16gb Galaxy S4 only has 6gb available as stock phone. If you assigned 3gb for safestrap, then you should only have 3gb left for storage. So my question is the junk files are on the new rom (3gb safestrap) or from the original O/S? I don't believe safestrap offers the option to "format internal SDcard". If you want to continue to use safestrap, you should be on top of the storage space. Since I don't know all the junks are from, but I suggest you should start clean; Uninstall safestrap, Odin your phone back to stock ROM using PIT file. Now you should have a super clean phone. Record your storage space to see what's the total space, how much in used and how much free. At this point you should also take a look at app to SD, where all the new apps will be install to your external SDcard instead. From now on after you flash new rom or install safestrap, you should check your storage to have an idea what used up the space.
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Looks like thats what im going to have to do. Glad i still have bootcamp to use odin, because i didnt use odin, i used safe root. Think it will be the same process?
m4gkman said:
Looks like thats what im going to have to do. Glad i still have bootcamp to use odin, because i didnt use odin, i used safe root. Think it will be the same process?
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Do you have Windows? or just MAC?
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Do you have Windows? or just MAC?
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I have a mac, running bootcamp with windows xp as well. But when i rooted this phone i used the mac method of safe root
m4gkman said:
I have a mac, running bootcamp with windows xp as well. But when i rooted this phone i used the mac method of safe root
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Ok, doesn't matter which one you pick, but just use Odin to flash stock rom with PIT file found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290859, this should put you back to factory and a super clean storage.
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Ok, doesn't matter which one you pick, but just use Odin to flash stock rom with PIT file found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290859, this should put you back to factory and a super clean storage.
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unfortunately odin only works on windows, thats the only reason i have bootcamp hahaha. thanks for all your help. ill be back at my main computer on monday so Ill post after i give it a shot.
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So the past few weeks has been my first experience with safe strap and everything.I have been using only the Hyperdrive rom. After having some issues with the RS14 update, i had to delete the rom slot and make a new one. Ive noticed that i have a ton of hidden files, because i have almost no space left on the internal storage. anybody have any ideas on how to find and delete these files? I would also like to know what you guys set the slot as, as far as given space. this is the only rom im going to be using so i want to maximize my space.
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Why are you assuming that it's "hidden files"? It's probably just the bloated stock ROM.
A 16Gb GS4 with just the factory stuff will have at best 8Gb available - the OS and standard applications all use up that internal memory space.
(Just /system alone is 4.2 Gb on my phone, for example. Then there's the /data stuff, including the dalvik cache, etc.)
Re-flashing a full wipe ROM will maximize the available space, but it's never going to have 16 Gb free on a 16 Gb phone.
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Looks like thats what im going to have to do. Glad i still have bootcamp to use odin, because i didnt use odin, i used safe root. Think it will be the same process?
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If you have a Mac, you can use Heimdall to flash ROMs, including factory stock.
k1mu said:
Why are you assuming that it's "hidden files"? It's probably just the bloated stock ROM.
A 16Gb GS4 with just the factory stuff will have at best 8Gb available - the OS and standard applications all use up that internal memory space.
(Just /system alone is 4.2 Gb on my phone, for example. Then there's the /data stuff, including the dalvik cache, etc.)
Re-flashing a full wipe ROM will maximize the available space, but it's never going to have 16 Gb free on a 16 Gb phone.
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If you have a Mac, you can use Heimdall to flash ROMs, including factory stock.
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1) because everytime i clear a rom slot and make a new one in safe strap, i get less and less space. if you look at the images in the links i put up, you can see that there is a lot of Misc files in the system folder, and none of them can be seen. and it shows that even on the hyperdrive rom.
3) heimdall doesn't work for some reason on my computer, and because im on 4.3 already, i have to use safe strap and cant just flash roms
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1) because everytime i clear a rom slot and make a new one in safe strap, i get less and less space. if you look at the images in the links i put up, you can see that there is a lot of Misc files in the system folder, and none of them can be seen. and it shows that even on the hyperdrive rom.
3) heimdall doesn't work for some reason on my computer, and because im on 4.3 already, i have to use safe strap and cant just flash roms
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I don't think this is a case of "Hidden files" - possibly something getting left behind after removing a Safestrap slot, but that's not proven.
You should install a program like "Disk Usage" from the play store. That will tell you where the space is being consumed on your internal storage. The "Miscellaneous files" entry doesn't give you the detail that you need to diagnose this.
I can't help you with Heimdall without knowing why it doesn't work.
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Hey, just want to make sure we're on the same page. A 16gb Galaxy S4 only has 6gb available as stock phone.
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That is not correct. On launch day (May 23rd) my S4 had 9.51gb free space before i put anything on it.
Eric214 said:
That is not correct. On launch day (May 23rd) my S4 had 9.51gb free space before i put anything on it.
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Well, I'm not exact on the number, but basically it took about +/- half of the total...) don't be too technical )
Hello, I got a major problem with my phone.
I tried to root it, it has bootloop. So I unbricked it directly by flashing b121. After that once I've reboot my phone, it makes many secondes to recognize my Sim card, like 30-40 seconds. More problematical, I can't install all my apps and why? Because I've loss a lot of internal storage. I have a 16Go Honor, I've got now only 4Go. Anyone already see that? Any fixes?
Sorry if bad English, I'm French.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-7/help/bootloop-updating-to-b180-fastboot-t3317249
That is speaking about how to fix bootloop, would it fix my problem too? Because I think nobody mentioned a loss of memory in the thread you gave me, may I didn't see it?
Adel. said:
That is speaking about how to fix bootloop, would it fix my problem too? Because I think nobody mentioned a loss of memory in the thread you gave me, may I didn't see it?
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Usually messed internal memory is due to wrong partition. And partition is linked to bootloader.
Remove your microSD and try to do the same steps as described. It will wipe your phone clean to a old and stable ROM. It can be considered as a low-level format. It has to fix it, because the other (very unlikely) option is corrupted memory.
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Usually messed internal memory is due to wrong partition. And partition is linked to bootloader.
Remove your microSD and try to do the same steps as described. It will wipe your phone clean to a old and stable ROM. It can be considered as a low-level format. It has to fix it, because the other (very unlikely) option is corrupted memory.
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Thanks to your comment, i have made a data wipe and a cache partition wipe with the original stock recovery. It worked fine and I have all my storage. Thanks you, i just have to now find the updates (i'm in b121).
Adel. said:
Thanks to your comment, i have made a data wipe and a cache partition wipe with the original stock recovery. It worked fine and I have all my storage. Thanks you, i just have to now find the updates (i'm in b121).
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You're welcome. Glad it helped.