I was doing some reading and came across this interesting article. I hope our devs can UN dm-verify our stock kernel.
It may make rooting future devices much more difficult. I wonder what bug crawled up Google's butt.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-taking-aim-at-device-modders-in-android-4-4-kitkat/
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There always seems to be work around on every new version but this looks like bad news. Read the whole thing. Scary stuff for locked bootloaders.
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So do we get the pitchforks out and commence advance on LGs social media, etc? To get them to churn out an official build, of course.
It's a great phone and I bought it knowing they might not be quick on the draw. Didn't consider that 4.4 might make all these ROMs all for naught. Still, I needed a faster phone and this certainly fits the bill!
At same time I did know that short of a GSM Nexus that I couldn't have guarantee of latest Android.
I'm stuck on Verizon until March 2013. I can then slap a GSM Sim in, hopefully. But I paid retail so it's not like I want to buy a new phone anytime soon.
Well. I have myself to blame. Again. But I am off contract in March and this will never happen to me again!
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I am hopeful that when 4.4 comes out our devs will be able find a way for us to upgrade from 4.2 to a custom rooted 4.4 with out any issues. I do think that even stock unrooted this phone is fantastic it is carrier iq that is killing me. I'm sure att will put it in 4.4 also. Even though it was the carriers idea LG allows it to happen so I blame them also.
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Are all G2s bootloader locked? Including the international D802? Or only the carrier branded ones?
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sacredsoul said:
Are all G2s bootloader locked? Including the international D802? Or only the carrier branded ones?
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LG to my knowledge locks the bootloader on all its devices regardless of carrier.
This is troubling. The reason I chose the G2 was because it was the closest thing to the Nexus 5 on Verizon and had good developer support. Hopefully our fantastic developers will figure out a solution.
From what I understand, unless we upgrade to the official 4.4 LG ROM, there is no chance of this happening. Is that correct ?
I guess I'm selling the g2 for the nexus 5
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This is rubbish man..
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From what I understand, unless we upgrade to the official 4.4 LG ROM, there is no chance of this happening. Is that correct ?
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That's my take on it. It is built into the 4.4 kernel. I wonder if this had anything to do with Google buying Motorola in August. Lock the phones way down for the carriers.
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If there will not be a 4.4 rom within 3 months guess it is a dirty shot for those who bought it and want to buy it like me
Looks like I'll be rolling with Nexus devices from now on. I guess it was bound to happen though, I'm sure OEM's wanted another security layer because of bootloader work a rounds. On the upside though, there will be less threads on device release days asking for root and ROM ETA's!
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the funny thing even though android are opensource, the phones and hardware are not. Thats where improvement is. If you create an abstraction layer, where due to propriatary stuff its closed and updateable by vendor. Another layer, the OS can go on top, thusly eliminating hardware dependancy as well as increasing updatability. OS and security issues can then more easily be adressed, without the now unduable vendor involvement needed in integrating the new OS with all the hardware specifics. Given the entropy rate of new phones coming out, its undoable. This last, as wel as commercial reasons is why updates and fixes for security holes dont come fast. As of yet.
Right now we see the true devs juggling various devices as the rate of entropy in new devices is higher then more true devs coming in. Devices not even picket up by community cause there are no devs for it. The breaking point has come.
A new design must be made for this momentum, a new standard
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The bootloader may be locked, but since custom recovery is available our kernel can be modified...so we should be okay...right?
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hhhmmmm not enjoying reading this thread
brucipher said:
The bootloader may be locked, but since custom recovery is available our kernel can be modified...so we should be okay...right?
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right. as long as you can flash custom kernels all this stuff should not be a problem.
it's about time to build some kitkat
KitKat has been out for like 5 days. Let's give the developers some time before everyone starts freaking out for no reason. They always find a way.
brucipher said:
The bootloader may be locked, but since custom recovery is available our kernel can be modified...so we should be okay...right?
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I think people who are already rooted will be ok , they will just need to avoid the official 4.4 until a custom rom is built. The bigger problem will be for new unrooted owners. I would imagine it being tricky to flash a custom kernel without the ability to root. I also agree in time the devs will figure something out.
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KitKat has been out for like 5 days. Let's give the developers some time before everyone starts freaking out for no reason. They always find a way.
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I think people who are already rooted will be ok , they will just need to avoid the official 4.4 until a custom rom is built. The bigger problem will be for new unrooted owners. I would imagine it being tricky to flash a custom kernel without the ability to root. I also agree in time the devs will figure something out.
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I just uninstalled recovery and was about to unroot and return to store, you guys gave me the slap in face I needed. Going to keep my badass phone now, thanks, drinks on me.
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Don't flash this on At&t. It will work but you will not have a working phone or data. You also might have a lot of trouble getting 3g/4g to work when you flash back.
I know it is for the Korean version but I thought your devs might find a way to download and take a peek. The site is in Chinese and I can't figure it out.
http://bbs.gaodi.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=642638
I am sure something more substantial will pop up very soon.
Here is an official video of the new LG Jelly Bean on the Optimus G too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jInp9DeNko0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Now I am going back to the Sprint forums.
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Can't wait....
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Good news, hopefully we'll see this soon!
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Doubt we'll see it soon. AT&T still needs to get it's grimy little hands on it. I say two months before they start releasing it, then they'll stop updates because of issues with AT&T crap, then try again after another month. Textbook OTA updates.
Well more of hoping that the Korean source will help our developers
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How about leaked firmware? This is not for At&t ask don't flash it.
http://blog.seabow.pe.kr/?p=3149
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Neither are these. I am just posting so you can attempt to pull stuff. Don't flash!
http://disk.previrtu.com/list/10003/
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i want thaaaaaat!!!!
must be a way to put it in our phones!!!!!
Official AT&T JB upgrade is 6 months away, if we are lucky. A strong possibility that LG will renege on their promise to bring JB to US. But, no worries, as we have devs who are working hard to bring us JB and more. Right, devs?
ATT still needs to add the required bloatware before releasing it after LG does. I even unlocked my bootloader using shellnutt's $1 app on Google Play to show some support. hell i even logged in and did my first post after being registered for 6+ years with 0 posts to thank the devs on their posts!
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must be a way to change it from ATT to International one....
so we can install any leaked rom!
I know with the inspire, the device here able to port the leaked desire hd roms over just updated the kernel for the inspire
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^this. I came from the inspire too so I k ow it can be done, I just also know it took a ton of work from the devs.
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Very true it did take a lot of work to smooth it out, I was just trying to point out our devs here may be able to bring this to us and may even help with aosp as well
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Official AT&T JB upgrade is 6 months away, if we are lucky. A strong possibility that LG will renege on their promise to bring JB to US. But, no worries, as we have devs who are working hard to bring us JB and more. Right, devs?
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I'm sure we see nexus 4 roms ported over by then, and at that point it won't even matter ( stock 4.1.2)
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Ok what no one seems to understands is that the thread creator posted this so devs can use this to work with and possibly port this to att... So why does everyone keep talking about the at&t update we all know that's going to be a while
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Ok what no one seems to understands is that the thread creator posted this so devs can use this to work with and possibly port this to att... So why does everyone keep talking about the at&t update we all know that's going to be a while
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+1
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You guys want some good news?
I worked a 96 hour shift minus 12 I came home to run errands. Well, I was going to flash one of the roms but I could at work. Everyone thought I was crazy but I knew the hardware was just too similar.
Anyways, someone flashed the firmware and it worked. One of the roms is a CDMA Rom but it is set up for a different frequency. Everything works but no phone or data. WiFi even worked.
So, I don't know if one of you want to try it but the K or S version might work on at&t.
Check and see what frequency they are on and try that one. You might have everything but lte.
Anyways, I am not sure how different the At&t phone is but it is worth a try.
Do it at your own risk.
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Thanks to Elisha here is the korean kernel.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hdfl15d7j4albhm/boot.img
And system dump.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/na0gqlhdnmduspf/JB.ZIP
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kc_exactly said:
You guys want some good news?
I worked a 96 hour shift minus 12 I came home to run errands. Well, I was going to flash one of the roms but I could at work. Everyone thought I was crazy but I knew the hardware was just too similar.
Anyways, someone flashed the firmware and it worked. One of the roms is a CDMA Rom but it is set up for a different frequency. Everything works but no phone or data. WiFi even worked.
So, I don't know if one of you want to try it but the K or S version might work on at&t.
Check and see what frequency they are on and try that one. You might have everything but lte.
Anyways, I am not sure how different the At&t phone is but it is worth a try.
Do it at your own risk.
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Nexus 4 Roms? I'd like to find out a little bit more about this.. I'd just like an AOSP ICS rom..
I'm beginning to lose hope that the bootloader is going to be unlocked. Not because the devs here aren't fantastic - they are undoubtedly incredible. But based on my prior experiences with locked phones, this one seems to be unusually challenging. So what do folks think the odds are at this point?
PS: Forgive me if this belongs in another thread but I figured it's less about the process or the bounty and more about likelihood....
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I'm not holding my breath. But it's reasonable that something may be found along the way by accident or by leak..
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the odds are exactly 50/50
scientific fact.
lol for real though, I may be going to the HTC One, if the boot loader isn't unlocked in a couple months.
I would prefer a One Max IF you can unlock the bootloader on HTC's site.
I'm already trying to trade my S4 for a Note 2. Little patience I have. Which leads me to my next question... Does anybody know if the Note 2 is a nightmare or have the Dev's got that one figured out?
brandonhatty said:
I'm already trying to trade my S4 for a Note 2. Little patience I have. Which leads me to my next question... Does anybody know if the Note 2 is a nightmare or have the Dev's got that one figured out?
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I owned one before the s4. No problems unlocking bootloader etc on the note 2. Everything was pretty stable as well as far as aosp roms.
flyinj54 said:
I owned one before the s4. No problems unlocking bootloader etc on the note 2. Everything was pretty stable as well as far as aosp roms.
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How long you going to give it? I'm sure as soon as I trade back they will crack it!
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brandonhatty said:
I'm already trying to trade my S4 for a Note 2. Little patience I have. Which leads me to my next question... Does anybody know if the Note 2 is a nightmare or have the Dev's got that one figured out?
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I came from the note 2, development for the note 2 is not as active as the s4 but there is development.
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I currently plan on getting the note 3. Not stopping using the gs4, just having the ability to go big when I feel like it. :good:
That and to try to start some projects for it. Always fun to have projects!
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andybones said:
the odds are exactly 50/50
scientific fact.
lol for real though, I may be going to the HTC One, if the boot loader isn't unlocked in a couple months.
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Wasn't the HTC DNA blocked from being unlocked after a vzw update? If the one is unlockable then I'd gladly switch.
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The odds are the same as finding a way to install a rom on the me7 update
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pretty soon Verizon will lock down all phones and unlocking and rooting phones will be gone foreverrrrrrrr
CC268 said:
pretty soon Verizon will lock down all phones and unlocking and rooting phones will be gone foreverrrrrrrr
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I doubt rooting will ever be gone, but custom recoveries are probably going to be a thing of the past
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mrbracht said:
I doubt rooting will ever be gone, but custom recoveries are probably going to be a thing of the past
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Well, didn't the guy from Cyanogen Mod make a G+ post a week or two ago, talking about trying to move Cyanogen mod to not requiring root access? https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/BDVgeKMWaf4
CC268 said:
pretty soon Verizon will lock down all phones and unlocking and rooting phones will be gone foreverrrrrrrr
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samsung develeoper phones, htc unlock.
theres future rooting..
porky101 said:
Well, didn't the guy from Cyanogen Mod make a G+ post a week or two ago, talking about trying to move Cyanogen mod to not requiring root access? https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/BDVgeKMWaf4
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He did, and from what I got out of it he sees the evolution going that way. It would be nice to have CM without a custom bootloader.
RaptorMD said:
He did, and from what I got out of it he sees the evolution going that way. It would be nice to have CM without a custom bootloader.
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Maybe I'm just a noob but how would that work?
I think it is going to be the only solution going forward. I don't see any of the manufacturers or providers easing back on locking down these devices. If anything they will get tighter.
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Maybe I'm just a noob but how would that work?
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I am not totally sure, but I felt the CM team was indicating something in the way Google was implementing security and the code that really allows things to be done without the intrusion of root. I am not a developer and likely never would acquire the skills to be more than a guinea pig for them (don't mind) and I learned a lot from folks here especially with my HTC One DE which was a rockin device. I just wished AT&T service was better in my area and I could live with it. Some day I will likely try them again but I just can't do it right now. The big reason I did was to get unlocked phones, but given the sheer lack of LTE for US on the international phones its clear the OEM's are NOT making global phones on LTE today. It could be 10 years before we truly see global LTE phones.
Personalty, It's not about CM to me, I wasn't full access to my phone, if I have HTC I was S-OFF, if this phone I was the boot loader unlock.
Things take time and money, check the bounty, who knows for all I know they have a boot loader unlock and are waiting for it to hit $10G or some other number.
It's hard to say really. But I hope that Verizon still allows their HTC phone to at least get HTC -Dev unlock to allow custom recovery and ROM-Ming, and as for Samsung, if a Dev. edition is the only option, I will buy the phone for at Verizon (whatever one I can sell for the most on Swappa), sell it, make about enough money to buy the Dev. edition at only $200 after selling the device.
Just some ranting, sorry.
Update Details: http://www.htc.com/us/software/software-updates/htc-one-x-sense-5-update/
AT&T RUU: https://s.basketbuild.com/filedl/de...5_18.27.11.35L_release_341689_signed_0220.exe
Sense 5 ROMs: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36091570&postcount=1
Q&A
I am on the stock ROM, but my bootloader is unlocked and I am rooted. Can I accept the OTA update?
No, you must relock your bootloader before taking the update. Otherwise, it will do nothing.
Can I accept the OTA update while on a custom ROM like Viper, Elegancia, Blackout, etc?
No, because the OTA checks to see if any files have been tampered with from stock, so your phone will refuse to update. You will have to go back to a stock ROM or flash the RUU to get the update.
Will the Telus One X+ be getting the OTA update?
It looks like Telus isn't getting the update according to this update schedule, which lacks any mention of the X+.
How do I get said update if I am not on the AT&T network?
Your only options at the moment are to flash a custom ROM based on Sense 5 or flash the RUU, as you cannot receive the OTA from AT&T while on another network.
Is there a way to get the update without updating the bootloader?
Yes, flashing a custom ROM based on Sense 5 will give you the update without updating your bootloader.
I tried updating, but it downloaded a 13 MB update and I'm still on Sense 4+. What gives?
The Sense 5 update is a two-part update. The first small update gets the phone ready for the larger and fully Sense 5 update.
But now I have to wait another 24 hours before I can check for updates again! What if I want it NOW?
You can go to Settings > Date and Time and uncheck Automatic Date/Time, then manually set the day ahead by one. This will allow you to check for updates again.
If you still have some unanswered questions or want something clarified leave a reply and I'll see what I can do. :fingers-crossed:
Good to know but I might be moving on to the One.
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It could have been a good phone if the development crew behind the OTA updates didn't **** around.
Now everything's been shifted towards newer tech. What a waste, and what I don't get is why were there two different versions of this phone to begin with? I'm sure AT&T is outside the US, and I'm sure the wireless communications are just the same everywhere else. Just plain stupidity in the development chain.
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It could have been a good phone if the development crew behind the OTA updates didn't **** around.
Now everything's been shifted towards newer tech. What a waste, and what I don't get is why were there two different versions of this phone to begin with? I'm sure AT&T is outside the US, and I'm sure the wireless communications are just the same everywhere else. Just plain stupidity in the development chain.
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AT&T may also be outside the US, but most international carriers and countries haven't fully taken advantage of LTE as of yet, so that kind of difference is more understandable. Hopefully once the new update comes out development will pick up again. I know I'll be looking into ROM development once the new update releases. :good:
OMG best news ive read this morning!
WindyCityRockr said:
After tweeting a few higher-ups from HTC on Twitter, I got confirmation here that the Android 4.2.2 with Sense 5 update will be arriving in Quarter 4, which is the time frame between October and December. According to him, it is still going through the carrier certification and approval process, but it looks like we haven't been forgotten after all! :highfive:
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Thanks for the heads up!
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Awesome, so because most of the roms are AT&T and telus are pretty much the same, that means the telus people are going to get the update to with custom roms?
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Awesome, so because most of the roms are AT&T and telus are pretty much the same, that means the telus people are going to get the update to with custom roms?
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Yup. The AT&T and Telus HOX+ have the same hardware, so if either carriers release the update, both get ROMs.
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lets hope that we dont have to wait til the end of Q4!
Time to continue the waiting game! But at least we know it will come eventually.. once AT&T rebloats it with their crapware...
WindyCityRockr said:
After tweeting a few higher-ups from HTC on Twitter, I got confirmation here that the Android 4.2.2 with Sense 5 update will be arriving in Quarter 4, which is the time frame between October and December. According to him, it is still going through the carrier certification and approval process, but it looks like we haven't been forgotten after all! :highfive:
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Bieber loves you man :thumbup:
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Does sense 5 have photosphere because that would be sweet.
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jabbathebum said:
Does sense 5 have photosphere because that would be sweet.
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From what I have read, it does not
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i wonder after this update if this phone can use different roms like the international version of this software. ive been reading through this form and i cant understand why this phone cant get roms. is it because of the bootloader?
las23 said:
i wonder after this update if this phone can use different roms like the international version of this software. ive been reading through this form and i cant understand why this phone cant get roms. is it because of the bootloader?
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The AT&T version has different radio hardware to the international version. Because of this the devices require different kernels amongst other things. This is why the different roms are not compatible nor will they ever be. This has been explained many times on the forums.
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Anyone think that with this update there might be some hope with new ROMs? Or will it not matter
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So, the EVO 4G LTE has been confirmed to receive Android 4.3 by the end of the year. I don't know what that means for us, but considering the X+ is almost 6 months newer, there's a very likely chance that we'll receive 4.3 at some point as well! :laugh:
WindyCityRockr said:
So, the EVO 4G LTE has been confirmed to receive Android 4.3 by the end of the year. I don't know what that means for us, but considering the X+ is almost 6 months newer, there's a very likely chance that we'll receive 4.3 at some point as well! :laugh:
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From AT&T? Doubt it. But like some say: times shows everything.
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WindyCityRockr said:
So, the EVO 4G LTE has been confirmed to receive Android 4.3 by the end of the year. I don't know what that means for us, but considering the X+ is almost 6 months newer, there's a very likely chance that we'll receive 4.3 at some point as well! :laugh:
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I think HTC are going to stop supporting older devices even more now. They made a massive quarterly loss this previous quarter. And in fact no smartphone manufacturer that has made this kind of loss has ever survived in one piece. The last two companies to do it was Blackberry and Nokia. Sucks really as HTC are the only smartphones i've ever really liked.
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Woo!.. just in time for the Nexus 5...
There's a leaked Samsung Android 4.4 schedule on the net and it points to January for the S4 and N3. Going by the title at the top of the screenshot/picture it's the international variant S4/N3. US will be even longer. I'm quite pissed about this as these are the flagship devices and should be upgraded MUCH sooner. Thoughts?
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...xy-s-4-and-note-3-s-iii-and-note-ii-by-april/
Anybody complaining about non nexus devices not getting updates instantly have clearly not been paying attention the last 3 years. January is earlier than I would have predicted.
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Not sure how big of a deal KitKat really will be,...
I installed some of the newer files [Email, Calendar, QuickOffice] from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506623
To get some of the newer available apps, but moving to 4.4 washes away the hard work that Devs [Hashcode, beans, and Hyper] have already invested into 4.3.
I find Root and ROMs much more beneficial than the OS,....for now. De-bloating and customization is key!!
4.4 literally brings no new Ingenuity or function.
give me a break; give me a break; don't break me off a piece of that kit kat rom.
ManOfBusiness said:
4.4 literally brings no new Ingenuity or function.
give me a break; give me a break; don't break me off a piece of that kit kat rom.
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That's not entirely true, it does bring host card emulation to allow NFC devices without a secure element to use Google Wallet.
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We're men here. We always want the latest and greatest no matter what!
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Doesn't 4.4 officially have like emojis integrated through the entire system? I could have sworn that's what I could have sworn I read. If it's true, that's enough for me to want the update :thumbup:
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4.4 also allows you to record what your screen is doing natively. That is actually pretty awesome for helping give instructions on how to install etc.
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Maybe they will mess up and leave some sort of exploit in the kernel or something so we can start flashing kernels and recoveries on this thing. Im starting to miss AOSP after a few weeks without my Note 2.....
shiftr182 said:
Maybe they will mess up and leave some sort of exploit in the kernel or something so we can start flashing kernels and recoveries on this thing. Im starting to miss AOSP after a few weeks without my Note 2.....
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We are trying to get Eclipse for our Note 3. He has aosp features added into the TW. There's a thread in general section if you are interested should check it out.
Harleydroid said:
We are trying to get Eclipse for our Note 3. He has aosp features added into the TW. There's a thread in general section if you are interested should check it out.
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Still isn't the same as having a bootloader bypass or unlock to truly run aosp.. heck we'd already be on kit kat if we had this that's where i will donate my funds to.
shiftr182 said:
Maybe they will mess up and leave some sort of exploit in the kernel or something so we can start flashing kernels and recoveries on this thing. Im starting to miss AOSP after a few weeks without my Note 2.....
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Just flashed CM11 4.4 on my N2
kwkw480 said:
Still isn't the same as having a bootloader bypass or unlock to truly run aosp.. heck we'd already be on kit kat if we had this that's where i will donate my funds to.
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Oh I agree it's not the same.
shiftr182 said:
Maybe they will mess up and leave some sort of exploit in the kernel or something so we can start flashing kernels and recoveries on this thing. Im starting to miss AOSP after a few weeks without my Note 2.....
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Never buy a locked device expecting aosp. Always assume a locked bootloader will remain that way.
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ManOfBusiness said:
4.4 literally brings no new Ingenuity or function.
give me a break; give me a break; don't break me off a piece of that kit kat rom.
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Are you kidding? ART is potentially huge. I'd rather Samsung skip over 4.3 and go straight to 4.4 for this reason.
akellar said:
Never buy a locked device expecting aosp. Always assume a locked bootloader will remain that way.
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I really had to think about it when I chose to get the Note 3, but I figure the features on this phone are pretty amazing, and the way its looking is that phones will mostly be locked in the future. ATT is locking theirs, Verizon is locking theirs, Im sure the rest will follow. If two out of the four major US carriers are doing this, there is a good chance that someone will find a way around it. For the time being, we have Hashcode who has found away around the lock for the most part. We just need to get something like Loki or KEXEC working.
My other option was to keep a phone that has outdated resolution, software and hardware..... I had the Note 2 for a year and was ready to move on.
mi7chy said:
Are you kidding? ART is potentially huge. I'd rather Samsung skip over 4.3 and go straight to 4.4 for this reason.
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That's going to be hard to do since we're already on 4.3
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That's going to be hard to do since we're already on 4.3
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That part was for my Note 2. :cyclops:
We have no one to blame but ourselves. We accept the fact that the US carriers bend us over the barrel and do what they want to us. We accept it everyday by using their services, paying their crazy stupid prices and by accepting their restrictive contracts. Anyone who expects a US Wireless Carrier to offer an update let alone a Samsung update within a reasonable time frame is simply crazy.
The only reason the HTC One is getting it so fast is . . . well they don't have many phones to actually update or are worth updating so they have to keep pushing updates out to stay relevant. Of course the HTC one didn't get 4.2.2 we got stuck with 4.1.2 until we got 4.3. Of course I gave up on my HTC One long ago.
bajasur said:
4.4 also allows you to record what your screen is doing natively. That is actually pretty awesome for helping give instructions on how to install etc.
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Screen recording requires a PC attachment.
Hey guys,
I'm new coming from a GS3 running synergy. Some unexpected events forced me to upgrade to a GS4. I haven't really kept tabs on the gs4 because my upgrade was due around the time the GS5 is supposedly going to come out.
I'm disappointed to find that the bootloaders are locked for us newer owners. My question is, my phone came with 4.2.2 MI1 should i allow it to update to 4.3? I would like to stay on what ever SW will likely get cracked in the future. I've read as much as i could and it seems like the older sw is closer to having a bootloader unlocked than the newer. It also looks like you can't go backwards anymore.
I love flashing and tinkering with my phones and i dunt want to safe strap another phone. I got to use to having a completely unlocked phone. Any advice is welcomed.
Thank you guys
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3000gtmr said:
Hey guys,
I'm new coming from a GS3 running synergy. Some unexpected events forced me to upgrade to a GS4. I haven't really kept tabs on the gs4 because my upgrade was due around the time the GS5 is supposedly going to come out.
I'm disappointed to find that the bootloaders are locked for us newer owners. My question is, my phone came with 4.2.2 MI1 should i allow it to update to 4.3? I would like to stay on what ever SW will likely get cracked in the future. I've read as much as i could and it seems like the older sw is closer to having a bootloader unlocked than the newer. It also looks like you can't go backwards anymore.
I love flashing and tinkering with my phones and i dunt want to safe strap another phone. I got to use to having a completely unlocked phone. Any advice is welcomed.
Thank you guys
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samsung has locked down the bootloader pretty well and some have been working on finding an exploit since MDK base exploit was blocked by ME7. So if you are going to wait until an unlock mechanism is found for base firmware releases since MDK S4, you may never see it.
The only option presently for ME7 and later firmware S4's is safestrap. Right now many of us that couldn't get a MDK phone are running 4.3 android base HD12 which has specific release for safestrap.
good luck but the trend is clear by phone manufs and the service providers who are demanding locked bootloaders except for Dev phones.
Thanks for the reply. So I'm not going to loose out on anything by allowing my phone to OTA update to the latest?
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3000gtmr said:
Thanks for the reply. So I'm not going to loose out on anything by allowing my phone to OTA update to the latest?
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Nope
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
Awesome thank you!
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