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Fair warning: I've never rooted a phone before. I've dabbled in ADB with my nook color, but am far from comfortable with it. I installed Honeycomb on the nook color, then decided to just go simple with autonooter.
Now, I'm thinking of rooting my new Thunderbolt. Mostly because I'd like to get rid of all of the bloatware and try to get all of the performance out of my phone as I can get. After having the Droid1 for a couple of years, I do not want to see my phone get laggy like my D1 did.
So here come the beginner questions: once I root the phone, I know I need to get ROM Manager and Titanium Backup. Those apps will let me be able to get back all of my data and preferences, etc once I switch ROMs right?
What else will I need after rooting? Is it a simple process to flash a new ROM?
Can anyone suggest a (mostly) stock ROM that just gets rid of the bloatware and gives the phones performance a boost?
Also, does a rooted phone require a lot of maintenance? For instance, will I have to be updating ROMS often? Also, if an OTA comes out for non-rooted phones, do these updates get worked into the ROMs quickly? I dont want to be without a necessary update, ya know?
Last question: Once I root my phone, should I just cancel the insurance on the phone? Or does "voiding the warranty" only mean that VZW wont fix it for free?
Thanks!
First off, I highly recommend following this rooting method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616 and not using the easy root method. If you have any problems at all, you can log into http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951190 and get some help. I also highly recommend reading up a bit on ADB, what it is and how it works http://www.xda-developers.com/android/adb-easy-tutorial/
Then...once you get rooted use ROM Manager to flash the clockworkmod recovery. In ROM Manager there's a little fix that everyone's been doing: open ROM Manager, menu>clear download cache, then settings>erase recovery. Then do your backup before you do anything else like flashing another ROM. Use Titanium to backup all your apps. I recommend the paid versions of both since you will be using them a lot.
Added: What I usually do the first time: Root, backup rom, install debloated rom, set everything up like I want it and then backup again. Each time I flash a new ROM, I create a backup of it all set up and with the name so that I can easily switch back and forth. I like change
The basic debloat rom is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000103
It's easy to flash a new ROM, just download the one you want, put it on your sdcard and then use ROM Manager to 'install from sdcard'
You are going to be flashing ROMs left and right because they come out so fast. Each time an update is out, it'll be put into a ROM and released for all of us here so that you stay current. Most OTA updates will remove your root, so I wouldn't suggest applying them. Many ROMs will block the OTA updates, but not all of them do; at least in my experience.
I would not recommend getting rid of your insurance, it is different than the warranty and you can get your phone replaced if it's ever damaged. I've used it 3 times now all on rooted phones. It indeed will void the warranty.
Happy rooting!
^ +1. I did use the easy root method and had no problems with it but it is truly still hit or miss. I am sure it will get better as more developers start pushing new stuff out.
Good luck
Thanks for the reply!
Why dont you recommend using the easy root method that I've been reading so much about? I realize it has some faults, but I'm planning on waiting until an updated version comes out. I'm a bit afraid to brick my phone while trying to root the phone myself.
Also, after rooting, how can i do a backup of my apps? Doesnt rooting wipe all of the data on my phone?
Learning ADB would be helpful...I must admit, I am an easy root junkie. I just don't have the time to learn ADB. Maybe someday that will change.
Rooting will wipe your phone and I use Titanium Backup to back up my apps. It does make it a lot easier once you start flashing ROMs on a daily basis
Because the non-easy method doesn't have any flaws, thus has a lot less chance of bricking your phone. If you copy and paste, then you reduce your chance to brick to practically 0.
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Because the non-easy method doesn't have any flaws, thus has a lot less chance of bricking your phone. If you copy and paste, then you reduce your chance to brick to practically 0.
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Thanks! After watching a video of someone rooting, I think I will be able to do the non-easy method.
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Because the non-easy method doesn't have any flaws, thus has a lot less chance of bricking your phone. If you copy and paste, then you reduce your chance to brick to practically 0.
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This reason as well as you can get instant support in irc.
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This reason as well as you can get instant support in irc.
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Thanks.
So to answer my previous question: When rooting, I'm still going to lose all of my current information including apps, sms, etc. However, its good to backup my phone before installing the debloated rom.
Is that correct?
Correct - when you root your phone, you're wiping everything except the sdcard, so you need to backup your apps and such.
And we should stop using the term 'not-easy' root ... how about 'less easy', it's not as scary
Another quick question: I downloaded all of the necessary files.
When I try to open up the RUU_Mecha zip file, it tells me that the file is invalid or corrupted.
I've downloaded it twice from different sources and this happened both times.
Any idea why this is the case?
Can anyone point me to where I can get a non-corrupt version?
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Correct - when you root your phone, you're wiping everything except the sdcard, so you need to backup your apps and such.
And we should stop using the term 'not-easy' root ... how about 'less easy', it's not as scary
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Even better call it the Original Root Method........
pman555 said:
Another quick question: I downloaded all of the necessary files.
When I try to open up the RUU_Mecha zip file, it tells me that the file is invalid or corrupted.
I've downloaded it twice from different sources and this happened both times.
Any idea why this is the case?
Can anyone point me to where I can get a non-corrupt version?
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you don't open the files. The exploit one is the one you unpackage to your tools directory. The other you will put on your sdcard when told too. you can join #root and get help if you want.
as far as apps, the market 'should' reload all your apps when you wipe data just give it time. Then use titanium to back them all up.
So ADB is basically finding the root copy and paste and run ? .
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Even better call it the Original Root Method........
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I like that one
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So ADB is basically finding the root copy and paste and run ? .
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ADB is learning what you are doing to your phone instead of letting a program do it for you. Copy/paste is just so there are no typos if you don't feel as comfortable typing it all out. I recommend reading up on ADB so that you have a bit of knowledge of what you are doing.
do i need to use the titanium backup before i try and root or after i'm rooted
Irish Whiskey said:
do i need to use the titanium backup before i try and root or after i'm rooted
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Titanium backup only works after you're rooted.
You can use a program like Mybackup Pro to backup stuff like sms mms, etc.
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As a first time rooter myself, I ended up doing the original root process. The well written instructions helped me not to feel paranoid and I breezed through the steps. While, I was confident in rooting the phone because of the instructions, I don't feel so confident post root because I don't know how to do many of the elements like flash roms, kernels, apply mods, etc. So my question is, are there any guides for flashing new roms and the steps taken before and after? For instance, let's say I wanted to flash adrynalyne's no bloat rom, and his mod package, how do I go about doing it? Thanks for taking the time to read this.
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Most OTA updates will remove your root, so I wouldn't suggest applying them. Many ROMs will block the OTA updates, but not all of them do; at least in my experience.
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If I root and remove bloatware manually, will OTA updates occur automatically, or do I have the option of blocking them. Would they re-install all of the bloatware I removed?
Is there a way to do a complete backup before rooting the device?
Thanks.
If I find something I will let you know
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If i am understanding it correctly...Rooting doesnt affect anything in the system or the phone..just lets you access the root of the system..so technically nothing will change at all...you will have everything same as it was before rooting...
If u are trying to flash a custom rom, for which you need to have custom recovery....Then you can take nandroid backup...of the whole system (with app and data)..
Unfortunately, there is no way to make a complete backup of the phone without customizing the device slightly using 'unofficial methods'.
In order to make a complete backup, you need to replace the recovery menu (this is the menu you get if you hold down the Power&Vol+&Vol- buttons with the phone completely off).
It is also supposedly possible to get a full backup with the phone booted but you have to have root so that apps can access directories that are normally system protected (this however is not recommended).
So unfortunately, you have to do one or the other in order to get a complete backup and the preferred method is to install the CWM recovery menu (now at beta 4 for the Note if I am correct), then do a complete backup, then flash the modified kernel that has root already enabled. Feel free to correct me as I have not yet gotten around to doing this yet.
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Unfortunately, there is no way to make a complete backup of the phone without customizing the device slightly using 'unofficial methods'.
In order to make a complete backup, you need to replace the recovery menu (this is the menu you get if you hold down the Power&Vol+&Vol- buttons with the phone completely off).
It is also supposedly possible to get a full backup with the phone booted but you have to have root so that apps can access directories that are normally system protected (this however is not recommended).
So unfortunately, you have to do one or the other in order to get a complete backup and the preferred method is to install the CWM recovery menu (now at beta 4 for the Note if I am correct), then do a complete backup, then flash the modified kernel that has root already enabled. Feel free to correct me as I have not yet gotten around to doing this yet.
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If i am understanding it correctly...Rooting doesnt affect anything in the system or the phone..just lets you access the root of the system..so technically nothing will change at all...you will have everything same as it was before rooting...
If u are trying to flash a custom rom, for which you need to have custom recovery....Then you can take nandroid backup...of the whole system (with app and data)..
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Ok, Thanks guys. I guess I'll root first then make a full nandroid backup.
so i got the s3 two nights ago (eep!:highfive
and i want to transfer all my game data (ie, saves) over from my Desire Z.
contacts, sms, photos etc arent a problem.
its just the games! well, not just any games, the kairosoft ones. i dont want too lose all my hard work on those little things!!
anyone able to help?
neither device is rooted
Desire Z is running 2.3.3 (stock)
S3 is running 4.0.4
i tried using a program via pc called "wondershare mobilego for android" but it didnt transfer the saved games. same with "moborobo" (it has the option, but only for rooted devices!)
i also tried transferring via sd card, and that didnt work either D=
i was told mybackup pro would work - fail
i've seen many people suggest titanium backup in my searches - however i have heard that it will only back up game data if the device is rooted
i am happy to root the s3 if needed to install the data (providing i can find a simple guide XD - i like to think i am pretty tech savvy, but this is just something i havent done yet!)
i've searched for hours already and from my understanding, both (?) devices have to be rooted.
however, i have seen (unless i misunderstood) that if i root my Desire Z to do the backup, i will lose my data anyway (before i backup that is).
is this true? or am i understanding this wrong?
p.s sorry if i posted in the wrong forum. wasn't sure which one :/
You have to root.
Root Desire, install TiBackup, backup any apps you need.
Root S3, install TiBackup, tranfer microSD from Desire to S3 (in which the backups are on) and restore through TiBackup.
Simplest way I know of, and you don't lose data from rooting.
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Good Q
i need know the same thing!! but whit a G note and a s3 ;P
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You have to root.
Root Desire, install TiBackup, backup any apps you need.
Root S3, install TiBackup, tranfer microSD from Desire to S3 (in which the backups are on) and restore through TiBackup.
Simplest way I know of, and you don't lose data from rooting.
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according to (sorry cant post links yet)
wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_Z:_Rooting
and
wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Vision:_CyanogenMod
i will lose my data
or am i missing something?
[sorry, new to the whole rooting/flashing etc so trying to figure it all out ]
Titanium backup usually backups your apps to the external sd card. Anything on there is safe from rooting or fully wiping in recovery. Installing custom roms on it will not delete anything on it.
If you want to be extra safe, I would copy the titanium backup folder from your external sd card to your computer, so you have another copy of it in case something happens.
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Titanium backup usually backups your apps to the external sd card. Anything on there is safe from rooting or fully wiping in recovery. Installing custom roms on it will not delete anything on it.
If you want to be extra safe, I would copy the titanium backup folder from your external sd card to your computer, so you have another copy of it in case something happens.
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Thanks for clarifying
However it is my understanding that you need to root your phone in order for Titanium to be able to back up your game saves
So. My question is... does rooting cause you too lose data because that would defeat the purpose for me
No rooting will not cause loss of data.
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All Rooting does is modify a few system files and if you didn't know it was Rooted you'd never notice the difference, and to put it simply everyone who's scared to Root can end up losing years worth of data when they get their new phone so you have to balance the tiny negatives with the huge positives.
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No rooting will not cause loss of data.
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All Rooting does is modify a few system files and if you didn't know it was Rooted you'd never notice the difference, and to put it simply everyone who's scared to Root can end up losing years worth of data when they get their new phone so you have to balance the tiny negatives with the huge positives.
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ok, so to recap...
(sorry guys, just want to make sure i've got it straight in my head before i do anything!! i'm not ignorant, i swear )
i can root my desire z using this method: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_Z:_Rooting
(can someone confirm if i need to downgrade my firmware? across various tuts i've read they all say something different - or nothing at all! currently running 2.3.3)
install Titanium Backup and backup all my game saves
THEN
root my S3 (still need to google an easy to understand method, but if you know a simple one let me know )
install Titanium and restore my game saves :fingers-crossed:
AND in this process, i won't lose my data?
NOTE: neither device has and ANY modification, both are completely stock at this point in time.
p.s i had someone mention to me that i need to unlock my bootloader to root the device, and unlocking the bootloader will cause data loss. is this true?
Anyone able to confirm above post???
Would really like to get my games transferred if it's possible
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Hi, I got myself an android phone 5 days ago and i want to learn how to use it properly so i search everything about androids phone and i think this is the best site among other sites to post this question.
1)Transferring SD partition
At first, i didn't know what is root and after learning it, i rooted my phone cause it required in order to increase my memory. I recently bought i new one which is 32GB and i already partition it(using minitool partition wizard) and i was wondering how to transfer all my installed data , phone data and my previous SD to my new one. If i simply copy paste it how about my installed app on my phone? will it cause my app to stop working? if i use titanium back up,can you show me step by step how to use it.
2)Rom manager or Goomanager (custom ROM)
I heard a lot of people saying "Do not use it","too dangerous,too risky","might brick your phone" (i don't even get it, you'll just have to follow the instruction or procedure right?)
-stock Rom and custom Rom
what so different about them? (i know for the fact that custom Rom updates quickly)but i need more information.
-what makes you want to install custom Rom, is it worth it?
-custom Rom can save battery life,make it faster,can play heavy games etc... but HOW? is that mean stock Rom drains more battery( my phone cant even survive one night), cant play heavy game or makes you lag?
-what would happen to my stock rom if i install custom rom?
-if i installed custom rom, will it cause my phone any problems? like app stop working?
-will it use up my ram or rom memory?
-why bother change another custom rom if you'll just use the popular ones?
-What else can you do on custom rom?
3) Clockworkmod recovery and Titanium back up
-Whats the different about them?
They say clockworkmod is like cloning your phone when you back up
They say Titanium back up all apps and data is like the same as cloning your phone too right or not? so whats the difference?
what should i use?
when backing up to install new custom rom, what should i choose? they say if you using titanium back up might cause some serious problem.
4)Recommend or important app
what should i install to improve my phone? like cleaner,battery save (there many kinds, i want to know which is the best)
5) Any advice for new android user
Kindly answer at least one of my noob questions that is easily to understand.
THANK YOU in advance.
wow... you have so many doubts... hahaha
Ok, here we go:
root concept is a little difficult to understand (and to explain) to anybody that never used Linux before. To put it simple, root means that you have administrator privileges, so you can do anything you desire (even break your phone very easily ).
I dunno if a plain copy can works with the ETX partition, but you can do this: Move your apps to your phone again, disable Link2SD, put your new SD, enable Link2SD and move all to the EXT partition.
If I misunderstood this, and you don't have partitioned your actual SD, forget that I said before. Copy all from the old SD to the new one, there aren't problems at all.
I don't recommend to use Titanium Backup if you're installing a completely different ROM, since it can cause problems (if you're reinstalling your actual ROM, is OK to use it).
Custom ROM advantages:
quick updates, as you said.
lightweight, only few apps will be installed (without the bunch of crap that carriers or manufacturers usually add).
faster than stock, mostly cases.
Many features that stock ROM doesn't have (depends of ROM and the developer).
You should choose your ROM wisely, since not all ROMs are enough stable and can cause weird problems (as forced closes, slow down the phone, random reboots...). If you're unsure, try the popular ones and choose one.
Titanium backup doesn't make a clone of your phone, only the apps and its data. As I said before, I don't recommend to use it if you're moving to another ROM (you can try to install the app as usual, and only restore its data using Titanium Backup, it's better than restore app+data).
Recovery, in the other hand, can make a full backup (even the EXT partition is saved), so this is the right way to backup when you're installing a new ROM.
You will not need anything if you choose a good ROM
The usual: search, read, search again, and understand before do anything
I hope I didn't leave something unanswered, let me know if so
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wow... you have so many doubts... hahaha
Ok, here we go:
root concept is a little difficult to understand (and to explain) to anybody that never used Linux before. To put it simple, root means that you have administrator privileges, so you can do anything you desire (even break your phone very easily ).
I dunno if a plain copy can works with the ETX partition, but you can do this: Move your apps to your phone again, disable Link2SD, put your new SD, enable Link2SD and move all to the EXT partition.
If I misunderstood this, and you don't have partitioned your actual SD, forget that I said before. Copy all from the old SD to the new one, there aren't problems at all.
I don't recommend to use Titanium Backup if you're installing a completely different ROM, since it can cause problems (if you're reinstalling your actual ROM, is OK to use it).
Custom ROM advantages:
quick updates, as you said.
lightweight, only few apps will be installed (without the bunch of crap that carriers or manufacturers usually add).
faster than stock, mostly cases.
Many features that stock ROM doesn't have (depends of ROM and the developer).
You should choose your ROM wisely, since not all ROMs are enough stable and can cause weird problems (as forced closes, slow down the phone, random reboots...). If you're unsure, try the popular ones and choose one.
Titanium backup doesn't make a clone of your phone, only the apps and its data. As I said before, I don't recommend to use it if you're moving to another ROM (you can try to install the app as usual, and only restore its data using Titanium Backup, it's better than restore app+data).
Recovery, in the other hand, can make a full backup (even the EXT partition is saved), so this is the right way to backup when you're installing a new ROM.
You will not need anything if you choose a good ROM
The usual: search, read, search again, and understand before do anything
I hope I didn't leave something unanswered, let me know if so
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Thank you for the quick reply.
wow... you have so many doubts... hahaha - got tired of iphone 5 so i switch to samsung galaxy since its new, ive got to be careful.
what ways can can your phone be brick? so that i could avoid it.
I don't recommend to use Titanium Backup if you're installing a completely different ROM, since it can cause problems (if you're reinstalling your actual ROM, is OK to use it). what do you mean by "if you're reinstalling your actual ROM, is OK to use it"? are you saying if i want to revert it back to stock rom?
can you explain more clearly about question no.3 i still didn't get it.
lightweight, only few apps will be installed (without the bunch of crap that carriers or manufacturers usually add) - can you explain it like giving me examples? what examples of crap usually add? if i really did installed a custom rom, what are not from the stock are now on new rom. wont it effect my phone app data?
other said that if you installed a custom rom it might get brick.(even if the instruction followed carefully)
so what should i use to back up my phone in order to install custom rom and how? what would happen to my stock rom if i install custom rom?
how can i sure if the custom rom is suited for my phone? cyanogenmod the most popular custom rom, people said it can slow or cause problems too.
how much memory is required on installing custom rom.
should i use rom manager or goomanager?
-difference between clockworkmod recovery( and its functions) and Titanium Backup
When backing up consumes a lot of memory?
"Titanium backup doesn't make a clone of your phone, only the apps and its data" data-did you mean data from phone too? like contacts etc... if i use titanium backup and reset my phone, will it return to when i bought it? i was wondering if it will delete some icons like gallery icon youtube icon etc...because my phone is rooted.
if i use clockworkmod recovery, will it return to the way it is? some say dont use it cause it have a lot of problems.
"I dunno if a plain copy can works with the ETX partition, but you can do this: Move your apps to your phone again, disable Link2SD, put your new SD, enable Link2SD and move all to the EXT partition." so i should put all my installed app to my phone and then remove my sd card and copy all the files, cache to my new one. is that it?
Recommend or important app to improve my phone
my phone cant survive even a day. sometimes if i play games it sudden close itself and lag. if i install custom rom,can it solve my problems?
When backing up consumes a lot of memory?
Can you tell name of your mobile?
And yes, ROMs tend to make phones better in performance
ClockworkMod backup usually takes 200-300 mb for high end ICS/JB devices
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Can you tell name of your mobile?
And yes, ROMs tend to make phones better in performance
ClockworkMod backup usually takes 200-300 mb for high end ICS/JB devices
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Samsung Galaxy S4
:good: BTW, never heard of S4 lagging but you can try Greenify app.
And why do you need to expand memory?
1. Transferring data to SD card is not only copy paste them. Not that simple.. U have to use an application that able to move data to SD safely without problem. If the data u wanted to move is like Pictures, Music, Video then it could be done by a simple copy paste.
2. Stock ROM and Custom ROM is two different things. Basically stock ROM is the one that officially has been tested its compatibility to phones which means it is safe to use it. While Custom ROMs are different. Not all of Custom ROMs are tested and u use it by ur own risk. It is true that by using custom ROM could improve ur phone because basically the Custom ROM was maded by other people that wanted to improve what Stock ROM didn't have. Custom ROM could harm ur phone if it is not used in a right way or that the ROM doesn't match ur phone.
3. Clockworkmod Recovery and Titanium backup are basically a similar app. They both meant to backup ur data. The thing is, clockwork use to backup ur ROM in case u want to change ur current ROM and maybe u want it back again. While Titanium usually used for backup ur phone's application and data such as apps, ur phone setting, ur contacts, etc.
4. I have some apps that I can suggests to u as a basic apps for rooted users.
- ROM toolbox Pro. It help u to improve ur ROM in working.
- Terminal emulator. It help to put command on ur phone if u want to order ur phone to run some settings. Simply it is like MsDos in Windows.
- Link2SD. Help u to organize apps if u need to move some apps that cannot be moved manually from ur setting (like ur stock apps, Twitter, Facebook, etc)
- (optional) Root explorer. Help u to manage data in ur phone or SD and change their permissions.
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Can you tell name of your mobile?
And yes, ROMs tend to make phones better in performance
ClockworkMod backup usually takes 200-300 mb for high end ICS/JB devices
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when i bought samsung(rooted), i got free huawei ascend y210d (y210-200) yet to be rooted though(thats why iam asking about sd partition in advance), when i use poot.akp from this site: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2204259.
I got this error:
2012 giantpune
[+] opened device
[+] Set logging mode
[+] Resolved symbols
[+] Mapped 0x10000000
[+] Hooked 0xc02fcf6c
[-] Error running kernel-mode code
[-] Failed to clean up our mess
[-] Current && current != last + 1: 0000ffff 0000ffff
[-] Haxx has run its coarse. Reboot the device to play again
A demon materialized while pooting. Error code: 87
su binary was not written
You need to restart your device
Qijos said:
1. Transferring data to SD card is not only copy paste them. Not that simple.. U have to use an application that able to move data to SD safely without problem. If the data u wanted to move is like Pictures, Music, Video then it could be done by a simple copy paste.
2. Stock ROM and Custom ROM is two different things. Basically stock ROM is the one that officially has been tested its compatibility to phones which means it is safe to use it. While Custom ROMs are different. Not all of Custom ROMs are tested and u use it by ur own risk. It is true that by using custom ROM could improve ur phone because basically the Custom ROM was maded by other people that wanted to improve what Stock ROM didn't have. Custom ROM could harm ur phone if it is not used in a right way or that the ROM doesn't match ur phone.
3. Clockworkmod Recovery and Titanium backup are basically a similar app. They both meant to backup ur data. The thing is, clockwork use to backup ur ROM in case u want to change ur current ROM and maybe u want it back again. While Titanium usually used for backup ur phone's application and data such as apps, ur phone setting, ur contacts, etc.
4. I have some apps that I can suggests to u as a basic apps for rooted users.
- ROM toolbox Pro. It help u to improve ur ROM in working.
- Terminal emulator. It help to put command on ur phone if u want to order ur phone to run some settings. Simply it is like MsDos in Windows.
- Link2SD. Help u to organize apps if u need to move some apps that cannot be moved manually from ur setting (like ur stock apps, Twitter, Facebook, etc)
- (optional) Root explorer. Help u to manage data in ur phone or SD and change their permissions.
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1. Transferring data to SD card is not only copy paste them. Not that simple.. U have to use an application that able to move data to SD safely without problem. If the data u wanted to move is like Pictures, Music, Video then it could be done by a simple copy paste. - so i use link2sd to move my installed app to sd then copy paste all ?
3. Clockworkmod Recovery and Titanium backup are basically a similar app. They both meant to backup ur data. The thing is, clockwork use to backup ur ROM in case u want to change ur current ROM and maybe u want it back again. While Titanium usually used for backup ur phone's application and data such as apps, ur phone setting, ur contacts, etc. - basically i need both? cwm for when installing new rom then titanium backup is for data and app, is that it?
4. I have some apps that I can suggests to u as a basic apps for rooted users.
- ROM toolbox Pro. It help u to improve ur ROM in working.
- Terminal emulator. It help to put command on ur phone if u want to order ur phone to run some settings. Simply it is like MsDos in Windows.
- Link2SD. Help u to organize apps if u need to move some apps that cannot be moved manually from ur setting (like ur stock apps, Twitter, Facebook, etc)
- (optional) Root explorer. Help u to manage data in ur phone or SD and change their permissions. - got it thanks
freezcool said:
1. Transferring data to SD card is not only copy paste them. Not that simple.. U have to use an application that able to move data to SD safely without problem. If the data u wanted to move is like Pictures, Music, Video then it could be done by a simple copy paste. - so i use link2sd to move my installed app to sd then copy paste all ?
3. Clockworkmod Recovery and Titanium backup are basically a similar app. They both meant to backup ur data. The thing is, clockwork use to backup ur ROM in case u want to change ur current ROM and maybe u want it back again. While Titanium usually used for backup ur phone's application and data such as apps, ur phone setting, ur contacts, etc. - basically i need both? cwm for when installing new rom then titanium backup is for data and app, is that it?
4. I have some apps that I can suggests to u as a basic apps for rooted users.
- ROM toolbox Pro. It help u to improve ur ROM in working.
- Terminal emulator. It help to put command on ur phone if u want to order ur phone to run some settings. Simply it is like MsDos in Windows.
- Link2SD. Help u to organize apps if u need to move some apps that cannot be moved manually from ur setting (like ur stock apps, Twitter, Facebook, etc)
- (optional) Root explorer. Help u to manage data in ur phone or SD and change their permissions. - got it thanks
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1. Move your installed apps by using link2sd, or u can also move it by using ROM toolbox. only the installed apps that u thinks u should move. for Video, Music, Pictures, etc. u can move them by a simple 'cut' 'paste' method.
3. Yup, remember to backup all ur data first in Titanium before u download n install new ROM..
So now that I have root on my phone, using Titanium Backup, WHAT should I backup? I mean... my phone doesn't have inherent instability now does it?
Or does the instability (possibly) come from xposed modules I install?
Are there sets of steps I should take before installing new root apps?
Thanks!
-Matt
Root details:
Verizon S4 (sch-i545)
Stock ROM (4.4.2)
Back up anything you would miss loosing if something happed. For me thats nothing, for others thats maybe a particular apk version, or an apps data.
What do you need to do before installing root apps? Root apps are just programs that require admin rights. Nothing magic, do whatever that app might need, which is probably nothing.
It is generally good to have a full system backup from your recovery... For when you try to do _______ and **** it up.
scryan said:
Back up anything you would miss loosing if something happed. For me thats nothing, for others thats maybe a particular apk version, or an apps data.
What do you need to do before installing root apps? Root apps are just programs that require admin rights. Nothing magic, do whatever that app might need, which is probably nothing.
It is generally good to have a full system backup from your recovery... For when you try to do _______ and **** it up.
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Okay great! I already backed up any folders (pictures, pdfs from camsacanner, roms) to my computer via usb before rooting... so...
So when people are talking about TWRP/CWmod recovery... how is it different from stock recovery?
So basically a custom recovery is an all in one answer that allows you to back up EVERYTHING but also allows you to back up EVERYTHING in one blow?
blueman189 said:
Okay great! I already backed up any folders (pictures, pdfs from camsacanner, roms) to my computer via usb before rooting... so...
So when people are talking about TWRP/CWmod recovery... how is it different from stock recovery?
So basically a custom recovery is an all in one answer that allows you to back up EVERYTHING but also allows you to back up EVERYTHING in one blow?
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Stock recovery will let you do a factory wipe to basically clear data and reset your system to recover from something that messes up your install and makes your phone unusable.
Custom recoveries allow you to flash unofficial files, as well as take basically a snapshot of your system. With a custom recovery you can make a backup of your phone, and almost no matter what happens, you can flash that backup and it will be like nothing happened.
So when you try and run some xposed module that isn't written well, and now makes your phone crash every 2 minutes, you can boot to recovery and flash back to the backup you took right before you installed that module, and it will be like you never did it.
The recovery images are kinda large, as its all your data/apps/the OS all in one. Many custom recoveries will have a file manager that will allow you to deal with files individually, but most typically the point is taking a snapshot of your current system so you can go back to it. I make backups before trying a new rom, that way if after a little bit I am not happy I just flash back and its like I never changed anything.