BANG HEAD!!
I have been flashing ROMs/Kernels etc for about a year so no a little. After testing Doris new 9.43v15 kernel I lost root, nothing unusual there, could get it back simply by dirty flashing PAC ROM again. Decided I wanted to go back to an earlier back up of Carbon ROM when I had Doris 9.43 earlier version running fine with no unroot issues. Used Hawkerpauls GS2 ROMnuke to clean my ROM then discovered nothing worked in CWM (just click and back to CWM first menu screen). So I powered off to which I got this message: root maybe lost - re root now yes/no - I clicked yes and then boot loop on Samsung logo. Tried to go back to CWM, CWM screen appears briefly with logo in bottom right, however blank screen and no menu for recovery.
Unfortunately my mini usb post is knackered on my phone, will charge but will not connect to pc. I have been using ADB wireless to connect with my phone but don't know how/if I can find this without phone switched on and running a ROM. Remember the ROM wipe I mentioned earlier - problem - NO ROM TO BOOT INTO! - Phone enters download mode fine though.
Only thing I can think off is sending my phone off and paying £50 excess on my insurance to get them to fix it, I have checked with a couple a local phones shop but they will charge £30 to fix it but say it could take 5 days! These are both last ditch solutions as I'm sure you can all appreciate I really don't want to be without my phone
I have searched XDA but can't find any solutions to this specific problem, if anyone has any ideas or knows where I meant find info that could help I would be very very grateful
SOLUTION:
Finally - it is done, my phone is resurrected and able to flash with pc odin once more. The solution - pay a guy £25 to fit new usb port!
What I have learnt:
If root is lost it is best to flash a new kernel with root before using gs2romnuke
That usb connection is really important so as to have access to odin via pc if all else fails
That some people are very good at laughing at others but seemingly struggle to laugh at themselves lol
Oh - and that M.O.P. = Mobile Odin Pro - I just worked it out all on my own haha
Thank you to those who have tried to help.
1.only an idiot flashes stuff without having the facility to use pc odin.
2.use the backup phone you have in case your primary phone develops a fault.
3.read the usb threads and order one from ebay.
4.or pay the repairer to fix usb port.
5.use mobile odin pro next time.
theunderling said:
1.only an idiot flashes stuff without having the facility to use pc odin.
2.use the backup phone you have in case your primary phone develops a fault.
3.read the usb threads and order one from ebay.
4.or pay the repairer to fix usb port.
5.use mobile odin pro next time.
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Thanks 'theunderling'
I thought Q&A was supposed to be friendly? Having looked at your profile and reading the posts that others have 'thanked' you for I can see you are consistently rude. I wonder - how do you think this could possibly help anyone? It's people like you that make XDA extremely off putting to new people who are trying to learn. I thought XDA was supposed to be a community based on being helpful? Were you never new once? Or maybe when you were you were bullied yourself and that's why you have now become one!
As stated in my post, I have come to the conclusion that I would need to replace my USB port, I really can't see for the life of me how using mobile odin pro could have helped when I had already lost root from within my ROM?
If anyone does have any suggestions for regaining use of my phone without replacing the usb I would be very grateful
Never mind the rude remarks buddy, because he still did try to help you, so forgive and forget, as for your problem because of the nuke script your recovery has also been wiped off and since you don't have anything on your phone to boot with(no kernel, no recovery or anything else for the matter) you need to somehow get a kernel or something inside and sadly for you the only working option is through a PC by using heimdall or Odin. So I suggest you read up on methods for replacing the USB manually or get someone else to do it, there are excellent guides by user keithross which might help you.
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And also when I say nothing remains on your phone nothing will happen to the data on /sdcard and your external card and also to other important partitions like /efs so please don't misunderstand and panic.
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Never mind the rude remarks buddy, because he still did try to help you, so forgive and forget, as for your problem because of the nuke script your recovery has also been wiped off and since you don't have anything on your phone to boot with(no kernel, no recovery or anything else for the matter) you need to somehow get a kernel or something inside and sadly for you the only working option is through a PC by using heimdall or Odin. So I suggest you read up on methods for replacing the USB manually or get someone else to do it, there are excellent guides by user keithross which might help you.
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And also when I say nothing remains on your phone nothing will happen to the data on /sdcard and your external card and also to other important partitions like /efs so please don't misunderstand and panic.
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Thank you, I'm being oversensitive due to being ill as hell due to a chest infection that just wont shift, and then this with my phone, just having one of those days. Yes, forgive and forget is a much better option.
That's exactly the kind of advice I was looking for from you and I will certainly check out keithross guide.
I think my post was extremely helpful.
1.Maybe youll think twice about doing the same again.
2.Get a backup phone.
3.Youll know what to buy and all the pitfalls about usb port replacement.
4.5 days will soon come and go,and £50 is chicken-feed.
5.M.O.P is a great app.
It is not my fault the way you do things,and not my concern about you missing your phone,and this is not an NHS forum......lol.
And Ive been accused of theft/breaking the law on here.......which was false.
Youve been accused of being an idiot.....which is not false.....so I think I have a right to be more aggrieved on here than you should.
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I think my post was extremely helpful.
1.Maybe youll think twice about doing the same again.
2.Get a backup phone.
3.Youll know what to buy and all the pitfalls about usb port replacement.
4.5 days will soon come and go,and £50 is chicken-feed.
5.M.O.P is a great app.
It is not my fault the way you do things,and not my concern about you missing your phone,and this is not an NHS forum......lol.
And Ive been accused of theft/breaking the law on here.......which was false.
Youve been accused of being an idiot.....which is not false.....so I think I have a right to be more aggrieved on here than you should.
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1. My phone was rooted long long before my USB got effed. - I didn't realize your advice could lead to psychic abilities!
2. LOL - I have a back up phone, but its sh#t!! Its an old council work phone, horrible - really horrible.
3. I was never after your's, nor anyone else's sympathy come to that.
4. I found a local dealer who has the part in stock and can fix my phone tomorrow for £25 which I agree is 'chicken feed' in the scheme of things.
5. What is M.O.P. app ?
Our international friends may not know what NHS is so I will explain - NHS = National Health Service, I don't think USA and other regions of the world are as fortunate to have these services. Perhaps you struggle to understand the nuances of convivial conversation, are you apergic? If so please accept my apologies, my step son is aspergic and he has know idea of social norms. If not, are you narcissistic? That I would say is true !!!
P.S. - if you can't take it don't give it out, I could go on like this all week long as I really have nothing better to do because I am off work and ill!! I'd much rather just be friends as I'm sure you have a lot to give and I could learn much, just play nice after all this is all in a forum that states:
"Samsung Galaxy S II I9100 > Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting ... [ Newbies][Experienced Users][RCs] New members friendly Q&A thread."
- which part of that was it that you didn't understand?
How are you aggrieved exactly, what is it that you think I have done - stated the truth about your behavior?
I dont know what apergic is......but im definitely sadistic.You can accept or disregard anything I say,and also in life you get criticism thrown at you....its life.
After my input,you may now be in a better situation for future standing regarding the importance of being able to resurrect a phone by having the ability to use pc odin.
Once you hang around here longer,youll see loads of other characters,like you,that are totally oblivious about the importance of pc odin.Then they act like they cant live without a phone.Question is,how the hell did they survive 20 years ago before mobile phones were in service etc.
Ive nothing against you personally,I just find it ridiculous how people like you,and the othets,take unneccesary chances with a device that they cant seem to live without.
And finally....at least that council phone works.....lol
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I dont know what apergic is......but im definitely sadistic.You can accept or disregard anything I say,and also in life you get criticism thrown at you....its life.
After my input,you may now be in a better situation for future standing regarding the importance of being able to resurrect a phone by having the ability to use pc odin.
Once you hang around here longer,youll see loads of other characters,like you,that are totally oblivious about the importance of pc odin.Then they act like they cant live without a phone.Question is,how the hell did they survive 20 years ago before mobile phones were in service etc.
Ive nothing against you personally,I just find it ridiculous how people like you,and the othets,take unneccesary chances with a device that they cant seem to live without.
And finally....at least that council phone works.....lol
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LOL - for you:
Asperger's syndrome
1. a developmental disorder related to autism and characterized by awkwardness in social interaction, pedantry in speech, and preoccupation with very narrow interests.
I get your point, but really, there was very little I could do other than what I am doing now, which is to get it fixed! I reiterate - the phone was rooted prior to the usb getting broken, so, in affect what you are saying is that people should not root their phones if there is risk of not being able to connect to a pc, which means no one should ever risk rooting.
I think there is a place for your 'flaming' approach to people who don't know as much as you, but it certainly not here in a 'friendly, new peoples' forum. Fire away all you like in developers forums, I think you should stick to the rules here though and I suspect you would be the first to point out when others don't follow forum rules.
Your point about me saying 'I couldn't live without my phone' is ridiculous, it was just a figure of speech, if your car broke, would you not want it fixed asap? Not a lot of difference. I think you are making a big fuss over nothing, simply semantics.
I just think it's a shame that you feel the need to try to embarrass new people who are simply asking for help in a forum that is set up for just that Are you really that insecure? Is your self esteem so low?? LOL :laugh:
Maybe you could spend your time learning about the s2 than doing free psychological evaluations.You keep mentioning being rooted,whats that got to do with the price of cheese.Theres plenty of people on here have done absolutely nothing to their phone, and end up in the same, or worse situation than your in.
Also,since you think your so smart in sniffing about my posts/profile/state of mind, you could maybe hit the report button, and see what a mod makes of any rule infringements.
As for your "doing without a car" scenario, lets me just point this out;
I can use my wifes car I.e we have a backup car
I can do without my car for 2 months;I just done it a week ago
When I can actually be bothered working....I do it in my taxi
I here the iphone5 is pretty good
Edit:I mentioned mobile odin pro because most of the regulars on here say that it has less flashing problems/better success rate than recovery/cwm or pc odin.This has been discussed/argued about in the past.
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Maybe you could spend your time learning about the s2 than doing free psychological evaluations.You keep mentioning being rooted,whats that got to do with the price of cheese.Theres plenty of people on here have done absolutely nothing to their phone, and end up in the same, or worse situation than your in.
Also,since you think your so smart in sniffing about my posts/profile/state of mind, you could maybe hit the report button, and see what a mod makes of any rule infringements.
As for your "doing without a car" scenario, lets me just point this out;
I can use my wifes car I.e we have a backup car
I can do without my car for 2 months;I just done it a week ago
When I can actually be bothered working....I do it in my taxi
I here the iphone5 is pretty good
Edit:I mentioned mobile odin pro because most of the regulars on here say that it has less flashing problems/better success rate than recovery/cwm or pc odin.This has been discussed/argued about in the past.
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Ooooo - did I get under your skin or something? Getting a bit close to the mark?? Just as you enjoy making your opinions public and having your say, so I am doing the same. Remember it was your choice to join in on this thread and start being insulting. If you don't like what you have got back maybe you will think twice about the way you communicate on a registered new peoples Q&A. You never know when that seemingly young little dog might bite back. If you don't want people to look at your profile then I suggest you keep it 'private' - there is a button for it, have a look. Isn't that line "I here the iphone5 is pretty good" getting a bit old now? I have seen you use it in quite a few of your recent posts, maybe you could think of a new one lol!
As I said to you previously, if you don't like getting it back maybe you shouldn't start in the first place.
BTW - your opening comments are ridiculous, what you say makes no sense - what point exactly were you trying to make anyway? Of course people come on here because they end up having problems, and they come to learn and try and find solutions.
Like I said, I have all week to continue this, although I agree with you that our time could be better served in actually helping others than bickering.
I have asked you some questions in this post, they really don't require a response as they are rhetorical (that means for you to think about) Now I suggest we agree to disagree, stop squabbling like school children and end this now. I am quite secure in myself, although I suspect your pride could take much more of a battering else you wouldn't have reacted so badly to my response's to you. And yes, I do indeed have the training and skills to 'psychoanalyze' as you say.
Maybe we can both stop taking our selves so damned seriously, as for reporting you, why would I want to do that, maybe just to give a moderator a good laugh? Now, shall we agree to move on?
That thread you mentioned earlier is actually a "sticky", which is slightly different than this area of the forum.Your topic is not in that thread, it is a separate entity.
Now,Im going to evaluate you;
I think that rather me calling you,or actually "inferring" that you are an idiot,would have received the same reaction as if someone else had said anything along the lines of
"Why are you opening up a new thread etc"
or
"Stop being lazy and search as this has been covered many times before"
You would view them comments are unhelpful, and maybe start doing free evaluations on them.
It is you that is more upset about our exchanges,as your veiled attempts at insults/abuse demonstrates.
You contradict yourself and if you dont like someones answers, you alter them to suit your own ends.
Your very,very easily wound up,and display a inability for rising above criticism.
Now Ive wasted enough time on this,so Im not commenting any further in your thread.
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That thread you mentioned earlier is actually a "sticky", which is slightly different than this area of the forum.Your topic is not in that thread, it is a separate entity.
Now,Im going to evaluate you;
I think that rather me calling you,or actually "inferring" that you are an idiot,would have received the same reaction as if someone else had said anything along the lines of
"Why are you opening up a new thread etc"
or
"Stop being lazy and search as this has been covered many times before"
You would view them comments are unhelpful, and maybe start doing free evaluations on them.
It is you that is more upset about our exchanges,as your veiled attempts at insults/abuse demonstrates.
You contradict yourself and if you dont like someones answers, you alter them to suit your own ends.
Your very,very easily wound up,and display a inability for rising above criticism.
Now Ive wasted enough time on this,so Im not commenting any further in your thread.
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LOL! seems to me like it is actually you that is struggling with 'rising above criticism' and yes, you are right you have wasted a lot of time commenting in my thread, I'm sure it will give others a good chuckle though. You see, what you fail to understand is that I simply don't care about what you say about or think off me, I do however care about the next new guy that wants a bit of help and that's exactly why I'm prepared to stand up to your bullying nonsense.
Now maybe after all you do possess psychic abilities as you clearly seem to know what I think and would do in other circumstances than I have even considered, the thing is though, that no one else did say any of those things, it was only you!
And contrary to what you say the only other senior member that has commented was indeed extremely helpful and fill of useful suggestions rather than sarcastic criticism. I don't think this exact topic has been covered many times before and if it had, why has no one directed to a the relevant thread? Interesting huh
Have you looked at @Hopper8 thread about problems with odin. And have you tried cleaning the usb port. Different leads? Many things you can try and most if not all are in that thread. :thumbup:
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Have you looked at @Hopper8 thread about problems with odin. And have you tried cleaning the usb port. Different leads? Many things you can try and most if not all are in that thread. :thumbup:
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Tried cleaning USB and there was a shed load of fluff and goodness knows what in there, also tried cleaning with a tooth brush and surgical spirit, still get failed to recognize USB error on pc though. I will look at the thread you suggested now. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. Edit: I know the lead and ports on my pc are fine because they work perfectly on my wife's i9100.
Edit: Thanks, excellent thread by hopper8, I will be referring others to that thread, unfortunately nothing there that helps in my particular situation, just going to have to pay £25 to get new USB out in tomorrow as I don't fancy attempting it myself, looks kind of tricky!
This topic has been covered here more times this year than I've had hot dinners. Seems people's USB ports/boards are dying as the phones are getting close to/out of warranty.
As to why people wouldn't direct you to/give you a link to a specific thread, we have these two things called Google & XDA search. We don't spoonfeed stuff to n00bs purely because they ask to be/are incapable of doing the aforementioned searches. Why would I take x amount of my time to find a thread for you when you're more than capable of doing it yourself ?
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I don't think this exact topic has been covered many times before and if it had, why has no one directed to a the relevant thread? Interesting huh
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This topic has been covered here more times this year than I've had hot dinners. Seems people's USB ports/boards are dying as the phones are getting close to/out of warranty.
As to why people wouldn't direct you to/give you a link to a specific thread, we have these two things called Google & XDA search. We don't spoonfeed stuff to n00bs purely because they ask to be/are incapable of doing the aforementioned searches. Why would I take x amount of my time to find a thread for you when you're more than capable of doing it yourself ?
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I disagree, XDA is big and Google huge and after searching extensively I could find no conclusive answer to my specific query. That doesn't mean to say it's not there, just that I couldn't find it. I see on this forum time and time again new people struggling to navigate their way around these forums, perhaps if people were given a little more help to learn to 'search' maybe people would learn quicker saving the less tolerant purple on xda their precious time and effort to read what they consider to be tiresome threads.
Which leads me to my next thoughts, if your time is so precious and this specific subject has been covered so many times and is so boring, why would you 3 read it let alone comment??
Have you tried in adb to reboot recovery.
Or flash a recovery.img
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Have you tried in adb to reboot recovery.
Or flash a recovery.img
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I have tried to find my device using adb but because my USB port is knackered my PC doesn't recognize the phone which means adb doesn't see it also. I used to use adb via WiFi but understand this is only possible to do once the phone is switched on and running a ROM. Since I wiped using gs2romnuke I don't have a ROM to boot into, I have looked to see if there is a way to get adb via WiFi from download or boot loop but can't find any way to do this.
Thank you for your time and help Andrew, it is much appreciated
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I have tried to find my device using adb but because my USB port is knackered my PC doesn't recognize the phone which means adb doesn't see it also. I used to use adb via WiFi but understand this is only possible to do once the phone is switched on and running a ROM. Since I wiped using gs2romnuke I don't have a ROM to boot into, I have looked to see if there is a way to get adb via WiFi from download or boot loop but can't find any way to do this.
Thank you for your time and help Andrew, it is much appreciated
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I have to say, no way you're getting it going again unless you can PC flash using Odin/Heimdall after running that ROMNuke script (I use the same script & have had similar issue once.) However, that brings me to my next point.. I was able to flash stock via Odin no problem in download mode. My USB port was working fine, because I'd recently replaced it. I know you rooted your phone before the USB port stuffed up, but moral of the story is, fix hardware defects immediately (volume keys, power keys, USB ports, whatever it is). You never know when you'll need them functioning correctly, as you unfortunately found out.
Not trying to have a dig, that's a friendly word of advice from my own experience.
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I am coming from a DX where TBH modded the NV files to use the stock hotspot application.
I was wondering if there has been any devs taking a look into this...
And by the way I DO NOT want to start a ethics war on tethering or not tethering...
Thank you
There's been threads with lots of useful information (and posts) within the last couple of weeks. You'll probably get more informative answers looking at those then asking people to repeat what they already said.
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There's been threads with lots of useful information (and posts) within the last couple of weeks. You'll probably get more informative answers looking at those then asking people to repeat what they already said.
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I have skimmed thru quite a few recent posts regarding tethering and I find none of them useful in answering my question. I see that many of the posts go on to get a smartass remark or two from someone who has not a clue about how to answer the question.
Kinda like what happened in this post.
So I would like a linky or a better answer.
Ohhhh, if you want a smartass answer, I could do far better....
That was only my polite, "look around the knowledge base because it's useful" answer that noobs seem to find insulting anyways.
If I really wanted to be insulting, I would tell you to RTFM . I help plenty of people with legitimate questions, feel free to look at my post history and see for yourself.
But really, I do agree the ways people say it tend to be rather blunt.
However, the overreactions to even sensible replies to search around are also just also just as bad, since there doesn't need to be a new posting always and some people just don't think before they make one and reminding them to do a little search I think helps (if done in a not so overly rude way). My initial post was not a slight against you but a word of advice that people will do what you just said, insult you and give you non-helpful replies.
IDK what kind of solution you are looking for, but there isn't a magical "Verizon will give you free unlimited tethering legitimately without extra cost option if you ask them really nicely" or a "I'll come right over to your house code and compile the most amazing tether app in the world that actually boosts your LTE speed beyond what Verizon gives you and does your homework when it's idle."
Instead of taking the defensive because someone asked if you looked around a little, perhaps clarifying your question in a way that shows that you actually searched (i.e. "I noticed there was this method to tether or that, but I don't really like those options") makes it clear to everyone you gave it an honest shot and also motivates people to want to help you more
It also keeps things on topic so you get the answer you want faster. Just for future reference.
I searched the TB forums and didn't really see anything on the subject. I only found
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1082585
Maybe there's more in the general Android forums, though I didn't find much there either. I could just suck at searching.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1087475&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074992&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1077029&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1070477&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064246&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060549&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056647&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054866&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060701&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034262&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1007537&highlight=tether
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030818&highlight=tether
and many more (I stopped on page 6 http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=74208283&pp=25&page=6)
I recommend using advanced search and "search by post" not by title. You'll get more relevant info that way. If you happen to be an opera mobile or desktop user, you can make a custom search from http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?f=940, by hold pressing on the search bar for that page for mobile or right clicking for the desktop. It will then add it to your other custom searches for easy access
Anyone of the links above mention this?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ave-your-data-session-cut-off-with-an-upsale/
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Anyone of the links above mention this?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ave-your-data-session-cut-off-with-an-upsale/
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No, because it's a different phone that was never fully rooted and it's the only phone mentioned, but it's worth talking about since it's the first threat that comes off as more than words (though it could still be regardless). Verizon can tell what you're doing far easier on it than other phones because you don't ever have full control of it on the droidx. If there's any phone that can detect if you're doing unauthorized tethering, it's going to be a phone that's locked down. People who buy moto get what they pay for.
Though someone did mention it somewhere in some topic on the thunderbolt forums about the droidx having ways to detect it, but it was just glossed over.
I never used stock hotspot app because I never even try apps with monthly charges. what's the point of checking it out and potentially getting hooked when I'm absolutely certain that I will NOT pay monthly charge for that. I'd rather switch back to T-mobile
with that said, I'm using wifi tether as I write this. it took me a while to configure it because it wouldn't work out of box but it's free and well worth the price!
I've been busy lately and havent kept up with this...so Verizon shut down the free tethering apps, like "wifi tether for root" and others?
Not to throw this thread off topic or anything I just wanted to know how you got the H and # key's confused in the thread title as they are quite far apart. Again, sorry to everyone just kind of a weird mistake.
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No, because it's a different phone that was never fully rooted and it's the only phone mentioned, but it's worth talking about since it's the first threat that comes off as more than words (though it could still be regardless). Verizon can tell what you're doing far easier on it than other phones because you don't ever have full control of it on the droidx. If there's any phone that can detect if you're doing unauthorized tethering, it's going to be a phone that's locked down. People who buy moto get what they pay for.
Though someone did mention it somewhere in some topic on the thunderbolt forums about the droidx having ways to detect it, but it was just glossed over.
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Seems the Thunderbolt running gingerbread is the same way, although I reverted back to froyo for the time being so I cannot confirm what this article states.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/05/3...ireless-tether-asks-that-you-purchase-a-plan/
Doesn't CM7 provide an integrated tethering solution? That should be undetectable to Verizon.
If they are baking something into the gingerbread update to detect tethering apps (pun not intended but welcome), it won't find its way into the CM7 code.
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Seems the Thunderbolt running gingerbread is the same way, although I reverted back to froyo for the time being so I cannot confirm what this article states.
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I doubt anyone on a T-bolt can confirm since we're still getting free hotspot. Unless they are allowing official hotspot use but blocking tethering apps.
I suppose that would make sense if they're trying to get people hooked on the feature.
Yareally thanks for the links. I don't know if you own a xoom but I have yet been able to get the search feature to work in the xda site. Maybe you could find a link for that as well and post it for me.
I am not currently at home with access to my laptop where I have full availability to use the advanced search feature. So thanks again for making these links available in ones easy to find location.
As for the #.. I use thumb keyboard on t#e xoom and it is t#e result of a long press on t#e h key. I think you should be proud if yourself for being able to figure out what I meant to type.
No offence to anyone but some times when you all jump on people asses there may be extenuating circumstances.
Sry for your troubles. But I hope you rest good at night knowing that you have helped one soul find some good info.
The search feature using a web browser or using the application for xda? I've heard the application has lots of issues for anyone period with the search and since many seem to use it, it's probably the reason for lots of duplicate posts. If you mean browsing it on an internet browser, that seems new to me as far as I know.
I've never used it, I just browse using opera mobile (with a link to the thunderbolt forum on my speed dial and the search tied into the search bar next to the url bar).
Opera mobile still has an unresolved issue with LTE being throttled (max of like 150KB/s), but it's not a deal breaker for me at least compared to using the stock browser in terms of getting to where I want to go quickly and its tie-ins to the desktop browser.
No worries about the thread. Internet makes it hard at times to interpret someone's replies anyways since words can be taken many ways, lol.
For those that softbrick their phone, and then proceed to post 2-3 threads asking for help. Have you guys bothered looking for a list of what files are safe to freeze (remove at your own risk cause no sbf). Takes so little effort and poof http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19249139#post19249139 <---people lists of bloat that is safe to freeze etc. Also adb is your best friend seriously, with no way atm to restore our phones to out of the box factory functionality. You can pull the /system with adb easily, and if you can't do it, then I recommend not even bothering to freeze any apps at all.
It seems some of the people aren't aware of the risks of freezing/deleting files, and what it can do to your phone. Not to sound rude or anything, but it kinda does get annoying seeing like 10 + different threads about people screaming for help about soft bricking. I mean I doubt all of them bothered to take the time to do research, or look for additional information to see what is safe to freeze and not. I'm not trying to sound like a jerk by posting this, but it does get kind of annoying to see the whole general area flooded with "HALP I'M SOFT BRICKED!!" (One person that I won't name made like 3+ threads about it)
Yes I am aware at times it can be out of your hand, and something just goes wrong. But let's be honest people... 8/10 of the times is just straight out user error. So PLEASE do research first and search the forums/google first! Take the extra 5-10 minutes so you won't come out with a bricked phone in the end . Those people that return the "bricked phones" claiming while it's the manufacterer's fault, while it really is their own... Ruin it for the rest of us, and the carriers become stricter and stricter with their exchange process. So PLEASE take the time and research.
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For those that softbrick their phone, and then proceed to post 2-3 threads asking for help. Have you guys bothered looking for a list of what files are safe to freeze (remove at your own risk cause no sbf). Takes so little effort and poof http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19249139#post19249139 <---people lists of bloat that is safe to freeze etc. Also adb is your best friend seriously, with no way atm to restore our phones to out of the box factory functionality. You can pull the /system with adb easily, and if you can't do it, then I recommend not even bothering to freeze any apps at all.
It seems some of the people aren't aware of the risks of freezing/deleting files, and what it can do to your phone. Not to sound rude or anything, but it kinda does get annoying seeing like 10 + different threads about people screaming for help about soft bricking. I mean I doubt all of them bothered to take the time to do research, or look for additional information to see what is safe to freeze and not. I'm not trying to sound like a jerk by posting this, but it does get kind of annoying to see the whole general area flooded with "HALP I'M SOFT BRICKED!!" (One person that I won't name made like 3+ threads about it)
Yes I am aware at times it can be out of your hand, and something just goes wrong. But let's be honest people... 8/10 of the times is just straight out user error. So PLEASE do research first and search the forums/google first! Take the extra 5-10 minutes so you won't come out with a bricked phone in the end . Those people that return the "bricked phones" claiming while it's the manufacterer's fault, while it really is their own... Ruin it for the rest of us, and the carriers become stricter and stricter with their exchange process. So PLEASE take the time and research.
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This is the first time I've ever soft bricked while debloating And I've read that thread a few times before I sacked up and tried it. Next time I'm waiting until there's a restore.
Well that's good you read that thread. I'm not targetting a single perosn with this thread or anything like that. Just passing on some information that will hopefully help.
Terribly sorry for sounding like a newb when it comes to rooting. I've had an OG Droid for a very long time and have rooted, rerooted, flashed numerous ROMs, and so forth. I did do my research with freezing/deleting apps and all. I just, some how, made a mistake and deleted instead of freezing a few apps. It's a brand new phone and I just had no other option but to post on the threads. I figured someone, anyone, would have the backup files I needed and I'd be on my way. My phone isn't unrepairable. I just need the files
Have you guys try wipe factory reset in boot recovery?
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Sometimes it's out of peoples hand and S*** does happen. I mean I and the other members probably don't mind the posts that aren't like AHHH I SOFTBRICKED WTF MOTO. Posts like that. Maybe there can be like one section and people can post their softbricks there together? As opposed to having numerous I've soft bricked help! I'm not trying to attack or insult anyone personally with this post.
shady_lanem said:
Have you guys try wipe factory reset in boot recovery?
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I have. No luck
art0605 said:
I have. No luck
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If you want I can send you a titanium backup of whatever system app you are in need of. Just send me a pm.
And your wasting another thread by posting this practice what you preach!!
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Get the files you need from the system dump and then adb that **** people its not hard
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infamousjax said:
Get the files you need from the system dump and then adb that **** people its not hard
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I think you missed the point
the people that are having these "soft bricks" are boot looping, no adb access, no recovery files...
Has anyone been able to root the new Asus Transformer yet? I've tried all the one-click methods but none of them worked.
There's no dedicated forum yet too the TF701, so thought I would ask here...
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As it is not available at the moment in a lot of countries: No at the moment. But there is an app to unlock Bootloader and the Kernel Source Code to download directly from Asus website, so I am hoping it will come soon
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As it is not available at the moment in a lot of countries: No at the moment. But there is an app to unlock Bootloader and the Kernel Source Code to download directly from Asus website, so I am hoping it will come soon
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Yeah, i hope someone will be able to root it too soon.
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Yeah, i hope someone will be able to root it too soon.
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yes, would be great.
At the moment i help me with deactivation from apps i didnt use.
Its funny that it has been released so fast in germany, i ordered it on amazon at the 15th and got it on the next friday, very fast.
I would buy one of these in an instant, if it had root
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I would buy one of these in an instant, if it had root
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I bought one. Great little tablet, but i do wish it was rooted.
Root wanted
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I bought one. Great little tablet, but i do wish it was rooted.
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Same thing. Please, make a root for the device!
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Same thing. Please, make a root for the device!
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First thing would be to get a tf701t forum. I am getting one of these or the new nexus 10, depending on development for this. If there is any seriousdevelopment by Xmas, then iI'll get one, if not it get the nexus.
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First thing would be to get a tf701t forum. I am getting one of these or the new nexus 10, depending on development for this. If there is any seriousdevelopment by Xmas, then iI'll get one, if not it get the nexus.
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I just drove to New York yesterday to buy the TF701T and I must say that this version is like night and day compared to the TF700T. It is very snappy out of the box whereas the TF700T was sluggish and slow before I actually unlocked the boot loader and put cyanogenmod on it. For the TF701T, I will probably root it just for SU but I will probably keep the stock Rom because it is really smooth.
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I just drove to New York yesterday to buy the TF701T and I must say that this version is like night and day compared to the TF700T. It is very snappy out of the box whereas the TF700T was sluggish and slow before I actually unlocked the boot loader and put cyanogenmod on it. For the TF701T, I will probably root it just for SU but I will probably keep the stock Rom because it is really smooth.
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Agreed, I just received my TF701 from Amazon yesterday and right out of the box it blows my TF700 out of the water. Barely any slowdown while downloading and installing apps whereas the 700 would grind to a halt. Dock arriving today, hopefully Asus solved the dock battery draining issue as well. Root would be nice for apps like Titanium Backup but this is my first Android device - and I've owned a lot of them - that I might be happy with totally stock.
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Has anyone been able to root the new Asus Transformer yet? I've tried all the one-click methods but none of them worked.
There's no dedicated forum yet too the TF701, so thought I would ask here...
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Mine is Rooted, with CWM Recovery. And it was actually a simple procedure.
I can tell you that before you even think about proceeding, you will need to have your device unlocked. That can be found at Asus's web site. In their download section, I'm sure.
Next, you'll need to make sure that your PC/Laptop can see your device. My Win7 setup saw it already as a "K00C", or some such thing, but if yours doesn't, then get the "Sync" util from Asus and install it on your PC. It'll install the drivers with it. But then go back and uninstall the Sync util. The drivers will be left on your system.
Before connecting your device, make sure to disable all Anti-Virus, Anti-Mal/Spyware from any and all Real Time scanning. Also completely disable any and all firewalls you have installed. If you haven't installed any, then guess what? Windows Firewall is still running, so disable it!
You will also need to use a USB 2.0 and not 3.0 port on your computer to connect your device to. Why? I don't know man, just do it!
Do NOT connect your device yet! You're just getting ready here!
Next you'll need the little mini ADB &FastBoot setup. You're going to have to use that to do it (it's in the video where to get it and how to use it). If he doesn't tell you where to get it from in the video, then I think this guy has a link to it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516215
Heck, maybe that's where I got it from. I just remember that it's the "mini" version. The "just needed stuff" one.
Then go and watch the video in the link below. It's too wordy and doesn't even tell you what web sites he's looking at, so really, who cares what Josh would do (you'll get that later)?
In fact, maybe I got tired of the video and just found the guys page that I linked to above and followed that and that's where the "who cares what Josh would do" joke sticks in my head. That does sound more logical. <lol>
Either way, read through this and try that guys page, or the video first. I do know that by doing what I said in this message and using one of those two sources, you WILL get Rooted! That's a FACT! I'm sorry about this. It's just that it's been a couple of weeks since I did it and I didn't write it all down like I should have.
But here's the web sites he's looking at in the video (have them already open before starting the video):
CWM Page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2621051
CWM File: http://droidbasement.com/asus/tf701t/recovery/
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IBN1YkBp3g
Now there's stuff I'm missing in here. I probably didn't bookmark everything, but whatever I missed here, was in the video, so don't worry.
Note: Someone mentioned somewhere about keeping Recovery intact when installing a ROM, or a reset, etc.. CWM has a setting for that. It keeps the recovery intact through that stuff. I remember it kept staying on me one time when I wanted to go back to factory to sell the device and then I went into the settings and saw that one, which is enabled by default, so don't worry about that anymore.
One thing; It says in the video that you have to be at JB 4.3 first. That's correct, so update. There is one available through your device's "Software Update" thingy.
One thing that is incorrect, is when he says; "You must be at such and such version of this thing" (whatever it was), which is related to your version of JB 4.3. Yours won't be. Now yer scared, uh?
Don't worry about that. It's not true! It'll work just fine! Mine did. That was probably just what the version was when they developed this thing and so they're playing it safe. I don't blame them, but how can anyone know that it "must" be, when newer versions of JB 4.3 (huh?) hadn't come out yet. No need to scare people. Just say as far as you know.... but who knows for future revisions of the OS, right?
Anyway, this'll get ya through it, if you can deal with Josh's wordiness. Just be patient, he gets there. But you do have to take some of what he says with a grain of salt, like any of what you watch/read. My rule as a tech is, if it doesn't make sense, then it's probably wrong.
Hope this helps. And you didn't have to "Read! Read! Read!". That never gets you anywhere. You just end up reading a bunch of threads full of messages by people looking for help and others responding by telling them to read. And if you're lucky, you always end up at that one post that actually has the help you need. So why not just point people there in the first place? When that doesn't happen, XDA and other sites just end up cluttered with threads that delay people from getting help, instead of pointing them to help, which is what they were looking for in the first place, right?
Don't get me wrong, I love to read! And I encourage everyone to do the same! I'm just saying, with all due respect, reading a bunch of threads full of nothing but pleas for help and "read, read, read", is not learning. It's just noise. Unnecessary static. And threads with 70 pages of that doesn't help anyone, now does it?
I'm no saint, but this is my only post in this thread. And now there won't be 100 more messages containing "Help!!!" and "Read! Read! Read!".
The heck with that! I just want my device Rooted now! Hahaha!
If I forgot anything in here, just lemme know. I'll try to find it again. Or maybe I have the file. If you don't hear back from me, just PM me or something. I'm not on here all that much, but that will send me an alert or something, I'm sure. I think? Oh well, try it.
The biggest thing is, just don't let your fear of bricking your device overwhelm you. I have to say, that even though I never used any of this stuff before (meaning ADB & FastBoot & "pushing") and I was quite nervous, it actually was, looking back at it, a really simple procedure! So use my hindsight to hammer down that fear and Root, my son, root! <lol>
is there anyone working on a simple root method as of now since vs98512b ?
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is there anyone working on a simple root method as of now since vs98512b ?
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Don't think so.
I believe with 12 you can roll back still. That's the only option. And since it still works... No real need for anyone to work on another method. Sure it might be more convenient but putting the time and effort in might not be worth it just for convenience
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You can root at 10b. Install supersu and have it maintain root across otas. Then you can take all the otas and preserve root. That's what I did. Do not bump with twrp. You must keep the original recovery in order to take the otas. Once on 12b, you can bump but if a new ota comes out, you'll have to go back to 10b first.
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You can root at 10b. Install supersu and have it maintain root across otas. Then you can take all the otas and preserve root. That's what I did. Do not bump with twrp. You must keep the original recovery in order to take the otas. Once on 12b, you can bump but if a new ota comes out, you'll have to go back to 10b first.
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You should be able to restore a backup of the original 12B recovery and kernel if running stock Odex'd.
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str8boosted said:
is there anyone working on a simple root method as of now since vs98512b ?
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From another thread. Verizon G3 General, VS98523A OTA Release
Note that there is some discussion as to whether this is legit. I haven't researched it.
http://androidxda.com/download-root-genius
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From another thread. Verizon G3 General, VS98523A OTA Release
Note that there is some discussion as to whether this is legit. I haven't researched it.
http://androidxda.com/download-root-genius
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Yeah, @roirraW "edor" ehT said McAfee is flagging it as a Trojan, but that could be due to what it does:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59061762&postcount=84
Had my stock G3, downgraded to 10B, rooted with IORoot, added SuperSU with survivability... went to do the Verizon Hidden Menu and realized I had to take the 12B OTA again. And now, it says no updates are available and that my Software Status is "Modified". Might be stuck on this one. Got a meeting in 10 minutes, then I'll get back at it.
Wrong thread, my bad.
Smithfolk4 said:
From another thread. Verizon G3 General, VS98523A OTA Release
Note that there is some discussion as to whether this is legit. I haven't researched it.
http://androidxda.com/download-root-genius
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Update - this WON'T work with complete stock 12b. So, you will have to go back to 10b and root there, preserve root across OTAs, and take the 11c and 12b OTA to get 12b rooted.
Well I flashed back to 10b from 12b (via tot) and it wiped my imei number. Am I supposed to remove my Sim card or something none of the guides say anything.
I ended up using the imei converter and fixing my imei but I couldn't connect to 4G very well and it kept saying I had voice and data roaming. I rooted my phone but since the 4g wasn't working I unrooted it so the software status said official again.
I ended up taking the otas back to 12b and took it to Verizon and they gave me a new sim card and now it is working again but I want to root my phone and flash back to 10b again but I don't want to mess the Sim card up again. Anyone help?
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Well I flashed back to 10b from 12b (via tot) and it wiped my imei number. Am I supposed to remove my Sim card or something none of the guides say anything.
I ended up using the imei converter and fixing my imei but I couldn't connect to 4G very well and it kept saying I had voice and data roaming. I rooted my phone but since the 4g wasn't working I unrooted it so the software status said official again.
I ended up taking the otas back to 12b and took it to Verizon and they gave me a new sim card and now it is working again but I want to root my phone and flash back to 10b again but I don't want to mess the Sim card up again. Anyone help?
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take the sim out? smh
Yeah that's what I'm asking....none of the guides say to take the Sim out...am I supposed to. You took the time to quote my post and write a smart-ass comment but no straightforward answer. Guess this is is the reason I'm a long time lurker and never post.
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Yeah that's what I'm asking....none of the guides say to take the Sim out...am I supposed to. You took the time to quote my post and write a smart-ass comment but no straightforward answer. Guess this is is the reason I'm a long time lurker and never post.
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You've answered the question yourself. Supposed to or not, does it really matter? If you want to be sure nothing happens to the SIM next time, then by all means take it out. The directions don't say to take the SIM out for a very good reason: it's not required.
I've largely sat on the sidelines recently because all sorts of users who don't usually post refuse to help themselves by using the tools available to them, besides their brains and their eyes (and this part isn't directed at you): reading and the forum's search tools, are coming out of the woodwork and expecting information to be repeated ad nauseum. Or even Google, even if googling specifically for info on XDA.
There's nothing wrong with wanting help or asking for help, but it gets tiresome holding user's hands 1000 at a time on a daily basis. This is why I've all but refrained from posting my true feelings regarding all this demanding going on.
Maybe you don't deserve this whole rant but guess what? Like someone else I recall recently on here, you just happen to have been the straw to break the camel's back in my case.
99% of the time, if anyone...anyone at all has experienced something similar, it's been reported and you can find the information yourself. If you can't find the information, more than likely it's because the information isn't there to be had. Pure speculation here: I have no idea if others have taken their SIM out when flashing using TOT or KDZ method. I haven't yet, but I haven't once been able to TOT on four different PCs from desktops to laptops, with different cables and with different USB ports on the same PCs, under both Windows 7 and 8.
At this point I sincerely don't expect you to read all this because I am definitely on a rant, but if you do, good for you.
His answer might've been slightly smart, but your reply to him was downright rude and I don't think he deserved it. You, on the other hand, posed a question you can answer yourself. For god's sakes, try it! Try it with the SIM out and see what happens. Then you'll have your answer.
If you or anyone else feel you must direct any sort of response regarding this to me, PLEASE PM me. For anyone responding to this in this thread, I'll block you if I'm nice.
Sincerely: good day, take care, good night.
P.S. Maybe you don't feel the way we do because we are *NOT* lurkers. We do help people and take part of these forums for years and nearly each and every day. Nobody's forcing us to do so, but it does mean that we notice a lot more of the BS that comes from users who are expecting help.
AND I'M A LIBERAL EX-MILITARY!
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You've answered the question yourself. Supposed to or not, does it really matter? If you want to be sure nothing happens to the SIM next time, then by all means take it out. The directions don't say to take the SIM out for a very good reason: it's not required.
I've largely sat on the sidelines recently because all sorts of users who don't usually post refuse to help themselves by using the tools available to them, besides their brains and their eyes (and this part isn't directed at you): reading and the forum's search tools, are coming out of the woodwork and expecting information to be repeated ad nauseum. Or even Google, even if googling specifically for info on XDA.
There's nothing wrong with wanting help or asking for help, but it gets tiresome holding user's hands 1000 at a time on a daily basis. This is why I've all but refrained from posting my true feelings regarding all this demanding going on.
Maybe you don't deserve this whole rant but guess what? Like someone else I recall recently on here, you just happen to have been the straw to break the camel's back in my case.
99% of the time, if anyone...anyone at all has experienced something similar, it's been reported and you can find the information yourself. If you can't find the information, more than likely it's because the information isn't there to be had. Pure speculation here: I have no idea if others have taken their SIM out when flashing using TOT or KDZ method. I haven't yet, but I haven't once been able to TOT on four different PCs from desktops to laptops, with different cables and with different USB ports on the same PCs, under both Windows 7 and 8.
At this point I sincerely don't expect you to read all this because I am definitely on a rant, but if you do, good for you.
His answer might've been slightly smart, but your reply to him was downright rude and I don't think he deserved it. You, on the other hand, posed a question you can answer yourself. For god's sakes, try it! Try it with the SIM out and see what happens. Then you'll have your answer.
If you or anyone else feel you must direct any sort of response regarding this to me, PLEASE PM me. For anyone responding to this in this thread, I'll block you if I'm nice.
Sincerely: good day, take care, good night.
P.S. Maybe you don't feel the way we do because we are *NOT* lurkers. We do help people and take part of these forums for years and nearly each and every day. Nobody's forcing us to do so, but it does mean that we notice a lot more of the BS that comes from users who are expecting help.
AND I'M A LIBERAL EX-MILITARY!
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Lol you just took it too far...TLDR
His post was just sarcastic and I didn't know if he was 'smh' at the idea of taking out my Sim card or not. I've done my research and nobody agrees upon taking the Sim card out or not. I just don't want to **** up my phone again. I've rooted unlocked flash Roms and gone the whole nine yards on my G2. I am not at all new to this.
Guess I was just hoping someone had a plain answer instead of long paragraphs saying why they are so butthurt.
Toodaloo.
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You've answered the question yourself. Supposed to or not, does it really matter? If you want to be sure nothing happens to the SIM next time, then by all means take it out. The directions don't say to take the SIM out for a very good reason: it's not required.
I've largely sat on the sidelines recently because all sorts of users who don't usually post refuse to help themselves by using the tools available to them, besides their brains and their eyes (and this part isn't directed at you): reading and the forum's search tools, are coming out of the woodwork and expecting information to be repeated ad nauseum. Or even Google, even if googling specifically for info on XDA.
There's nothing wrong with wanting help or asking for help, but it gets tiresome holding user's hands 1000 at a time on a daily basis. This is why I've all but refrained from posting my true feelings regarding all this demanding going on.
Maybe you don't deserve this whole rant but guess what? Like someone else I recall recently on here, you just happen to have been the straw to break the camel's back in my case.
99% of the time, if anyone...anyone at all has experienced something similar, it's been reported and you can find the information yourself. If you can't find the information, more than likely it's because the information isn't there to be had. Pure speculation here: I have no idea if others have taken their SIM out when flashing using TOT or KDZ method. I haven't yet, but I haven't once been able to TOT on four different PCs from desktops to laptops, with different cables and with different USB ports on the same PCs, under both Windows 7 and 8.
At this point I sincerely don't expect you to read all this because I am definitely on a rant, but if you do, good for you.
His answer might've been slightly smart, but your reply to him was downright rude and I don't think he deserved it. You, on the other hand, posed a question you can answer yourself. For god's sakes, try it! Try it with the SIM out and see what happens. Then you'll have your answer.
If you or anyone else feel you must direct any sort of response regarding this to me, PLEASE PM me. For anyone responding to this in this thread, I'll block you if I'm nice.
Sincerely: good day, take care, good night.
P.S. Maybe you don't feel the way we do because we are *NOT* lurkers. We do help people and take part of these forums for years and nearly each and every day. Nobody's forcing us to do so, but it does mean that we notice a lot more of the BS that comes from users who are expecting help.
AND I'M A LIBERAL EX-MILITARY!
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Lol you just took it too far...TLDR
His post was just sarcastic and I didn't know if he was 'smh' at the idea of taking out my Sim card or not. I've done my research and nobody agrees upon taking the Sim card out or not. I just don't want to **** up my phone again. I've rooted unlocked flash Roms and gone the whole nine yards on my G2. I am not at all new to this.
Guess I was just hoping someone had a plain answer instead of long paragraphs saying why they are so butthurt.
Toodaloo.
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Guess I just like to be sure what I'm doing is what I should be doing and won't mess up my phone..I apologize for any curt responses as I can't afford for any mistakes..
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Yeah that's what I'm asking....none of the guides say to take the Sim out...am I supposed to. You took the time to quote my post and write a smart-ass comment but no straightforward answer. Guess this is is the reason I'm a long time lurker and never post.
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You asked a really dumb question, so I posted I really dumb answer, if you took it as smart arse, ohh well.
Toasting a SIM is pretty rare that's why it's not instructed to do. If it's happening to you, what do you think you should do, leave it In and keep frying them? No, you should take it out, because you have proven you are one of the rare ones this happens to.
I mean, really, if you walk into traffic and get hit by a car, should you coninue to walk into traffic? Only if you want to keep getting hit by cars.
See, if I really wanted to post a smart arse answer, it would have looked more like this ^^.
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You've answered the question yourself. Supposed to or not, does it really matter? If you want to be sure nothing happens to the SIM next time, then by all means take it out. The directions don't say to take the SIM out for a very good reason: it's not required.
I've largely sat on the sidelines recently because all sorts of users who don't usually post refuse to help themselves by using the tools available to them, besides their brains and their eyes (and this part isn't directed at you): reading and the forum's search tools, are coming out of the woodwork and expecting information to be repeated ad nauseum. Or even Google, even if googling specifically for info on XDA.
There's nothing wrong with wanting help or asking for help, but it gets tiresome holding user's hands 1000 at a time on a daily basis. This is why I've all but refrained from posting my true feelings regarding all this demanding going on.
Maybe you don't deserve this whole rant but guess what? Like someone else I recall recently on here, you just happen to have been the straw to break the camel's back in my case.
99% of the time, if anyone...anyone at all has experienced something similar, it's been reported and you can find the information yourself. If you can't find the information, more than likely it's because the information isn't there to be had. Pure speculation here: I have no idea if others have taken their SIM out when flashing using TOT or KDZ method. I haven't yet, but I haven't once been able to TOT on four different PCs from desktops to laptops, with different cables and with different USB ports on the same PCs, under both Windows 7 and 8.
At this point I sincerely don't expect you to read all this because I am definitely on a rant, but if you do, good for you.
His answer might've been slightly smart, but your reply to him was downright rude and I don't think he deserved it. You, on the other hand, posed a question you can answer yourself. For god's sakes, try it! Try it with the SIM out and see what happens. Then you'll have your answer.
If you or anyone else feel you must direct any sort of response regarding this to me, PLEASE PM me. For anyone responding to this in this thread, I'll block you if I'm nice.
Sincerely: good day, take care, good night.
P.S. Maybe you don't feel the way we do because we are *NOT* lurkers. We do help people and take part of these forums for years and nearly each and every day. Nobody's forcing us to do so, but it does mean that we notice a lot more of the BS that comes from users who are expecting help.
AND I'M A LIBERAL EX-MILITARY!
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Really, you can't get tot or kdz to work? I must have missed you mentioning that before, or I just forgot.
Not sure it would help, but on a previous device (i forget which) it would only flash on a clean pc, and only once. After one flash or try it would never work again until I re-flashed the pc. Really weird I know. I have a spare laptop I used so it wasn't a huge inconvenience, but no matter what I did, or sugestions I tried from the community, it just would not work until I cleaned the pc again.
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LOL!!
Really, you can't get tot or kdz to work? I must have missed you mentioning that before, or I just forgot.
Not sure it would help, but on a previous device (i forget which) it would only flash on a clean pc, and only once. After one flash or try it would never work again until I re-flashed the pc. Really weird I know. I have a spare laptop I used so it wasn't a huge inconvenience, but no matter what I did, or sugestions I tried from the community, it just would not work until I cleaned the pc again.
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I meant to specifically mention that KDZ works for me every time and on any PC. It's just TOT that always says waiting for connection. I've searched and followed at least four alternate sets of directions, even for problems I haven't had the opportunity to have, like TOT finishing with the wrong number. Tried unplugging and re-plugging, different versions of drivers and the TOT program.
I hadn't mentioned it anywhere so you're not going crazy. ☺ I do have spare computer hardware and considered trying it on a fresh install but I didn't feel I had much hope of that working. I had even thought about using Windows 7 32-bit or XP.
With your experience, now it makes me curious if it would work for me. I might try that next time just to see, whenever that may be. Thank you! I'll let you know either way what the result is.
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Hello guys
some of us are facing some battery issues (sudden shutdowns,abnormal drain,abnormal charging etc) like me.
i never believed it was a hardware issue,and i still dont.
my axon 7G had b23 stock firmware + latest gpu drivers from raysteff.
i was thinking to try gsi again so i went to twrp and connect it with usb to make some backup transfers.My battery was 48%,after the backup i opend the display and battery shows 62%.
I flashed twrp treble from nfound,wiped everything and rebooted in edl and flashed nfound vendor partition trough miflash.Boot in twrp,Now my data was somehow encrypted and i decied to cancel the unlock and flash o b12 bootstack from nfound.Reboot to twrp again and data still encrypted,again i canceled the operation.I went to look at data partition and it shows the partition is emmc (yes finally again).I am thinkin a long time the battery issues are related to wrong emmc readings.(because the emmc never showd up anymore in that time i complained about battery % issues,even when i went to stock etc)
i continue flashing gsi+treble and will report how the battery act now.
booted my treble gsi system on 57%...when booted the system shows 49%....dropped to 47% in 1 minute and now its already like 10minutes on 47%. I know a first boot dont need 8% of the battery.Im 99% sure our phone are reading bad emmc stats but how can we find proof
MOD edit: Disrespectful towards developers! It always did before (before los15 etc)i even changed battery.
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MOD edit: Disrespectful towards developers! It always did before (before los15 etc)i even changed battery.
MOD edit: Disrespectful towards developers!
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Every, and i mean every, dev thread begins with a warning. No one is going to agree with you.
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So quick to blame others for your problems. How about thank us devs for what we brough to you guys. Without us you'd have nothing.
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So quick to blame others for your problems. How about thank us devs for what we brough to you guys. Without us you'd have nothing.
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not quick,this is alreadye here for months.MOD edit: Disrespectful towards developers!So many users complain about it.Its not my problem alone,and this problem is already here longer before my complains.
MOD edit: Disrespectful towards developers!....now you can say its ok,because you switched phone somehow after you swapped battery with a new one.
i also swapped battery and it didnt fixed the problem.
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not quick,this is alreadye here for months.MOD edit: Disrespectful towards developers!So many users complain about it.Its not my problem alone,and this problem is already here longer before my complains.
MOD edit: Disrespectful towards developers!....now you can say its ok,because you switched phone somehow after you swapped battery with a new one.
i also swapped battery and it didnt fixed the problem.
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Seems like to me if you don't like these ROM's or appreciate what is freely given with no guarantees you should go back to stock. That is unless you really enjoy complaining, even though, no else cares to hear it.
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I just read through your first post twice, and you are terribly confused. I don't understand if you are trying to work out battery issues or encryption issues, and I don't think you know what the term emmc means. What exactly are you trying to accomplish with this thread?
You've been given proper help and were taken seriously already, but you never gave any piece of advice a proper chance, and you certainly never received any help without immediately insulting the person helping you. If you think everyone you've grouped under the word "devs" are conspiring to only give you buggy software, maybe don't flash literally everything you come across without understanding how it works.
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not quick,this is alreadye here for months.MOD edit: Disrespectful towards developers!So many users complain about it.Its not my problem alone,and this problem is already here longer before my complains.
MOD edit: Disrespectful towards developers!....now you can say its ok,because you switched phone somehow after you swapped battery with a new one.
i also swapped battery and it didnt fixed the problem.
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well, you said it. I'll tell you what you should do.
First of all, you should have checked whether the new battery was actually good before deciding it was fine. Since you're on a pretty bad situation already, I say you bite the bullet and buy a charge meter from Amazon or ebay. should cost less than $5, i'll leave a link down below for you to find one similar wherever you are. Just be sure that it displays mAh as there are some that only display V and mA. With this and offline charging you will have a much more precise way of knowing the state of your battery. This will be decisive and you'll be able to brag around that your problems are not caused by battery degradation ONCE YOU HAVE THE EVIDENCE. If that's the case, of course.
(Btw, you might still be in warranty, in that case you can send the battery back and they'll send you another. If your battery was stowed at very low voltage, it could have lost its capacity even before you got it).
That's on the hardware side of things. Even though i (and almost everybody else) don't believe that you have a software problem, if you want to be sure that it's not something that the BAD EVIL DEVS11!!1! did you can just brush up on which partitions are supposed to not be changed (like the persist), which partitions are flashed by an EDL package, and investigate on whichever lie in the middle (i.e. since you said an EDL flash didn't fix your supposed software problem, the two options are a. your battery is bad or b. the partition that has the bad, evil files is not rewritten by EDL).
Then ask for someone that's never went to custom ROMs for their whatever partition backup and flash it.
I don't think anybody is going to disagree with me that this is the most obvious way to clear this up. Also, if you simply ignore this and not do anything like you usually do, you'll lose even more credibility here even though you already have none. You asked for help, now use it and report back in a non-inflammatory way if possible.
btw, link to a battery meter
https://www.amazon.com/Minzhi-Curre...pacity+meter&qid=1551327256&s=gateway&sr=8-14
@Choose an username...: You are obviously clueless, by stating that persist is not supposed to be changed. You shouldn't format it, because it will remain empty and not repopulate, and caution should be taken when modifying its' contents. An empty persist will result in things like autorotate not working, sensors (GPS, etc), not working, perhaps an an inability to boot.
Unlike the system partition, persist is mounted as writable by default and isn't subject to dm-verity or system write restrictions, any file manager running with root authority can change its' contents. This applies not just to the A7, but by pretty much all phones that have a persist partition (nearly all). It is very much like data/cache except it is mainly used and written to by the Android OS behind the scenes, and isn't accessible to unrooted users.
I am of the opinion that @Predatorhaze's issues are mostly due to misinformation given to him by others, bad practices by him, and maybe a failing battery. The EMMC chip inside the device (it is a block storage device containing partitions, metadata, bootloader, etc) is mist likely fine. When it begins to fail that means your phone is on the way out and can only be fixed by installing a new motherboard. You will experiences symptoms like crashes, failure to boot, loss of data, seemingly random issues and other misbehavior.
Your logic is also sorely lacking, you can't lose what you dont have (addressing your reference to losing credibility when there is none).
You really don't know as much as you think you do. I wonder how many people have been tricked by your advice regarding battery calibration.
You call me clueless but wiping persist partition and then reboot,its all fine.files are back.I tried this because I have a persist backup to restore,but I didn't had to.
But thanks for answers
,you already told this.I even replaced battery. Voltages look weird too before and after.
It goes to warranty and never zte again
@Predatorhaze: Sure.....and I'm the one who provided you with that backup copy. Did @Choose an username... and others from Schwifty Telegram recommend you delete/format persist contents? Probably they did, but as a joke. I don't call that helping someone. When I was there they did mention that they told you to do a "deep wipe" (low level format of the EMMC chip and all its' partitions and their contents). And they said that you did so.
They clown you behind your back like you're nothing, if I were you I'd stop listening to them or taking any advice they offer. Admittedly, you brought some of it on yourself, though.
If I post in any thread then I'm just trying to help, I don't get kicks by trying to help someone do something that will wreck their phones. You can take my posts as constructive criticism.
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@Predatorhaze: Sure.....and I'm the one who provided you with that backup copy. Did @Choose an username... and others from Schwifty Telegram recommend you delete/format persist contents? Probably they did, but as a joke. I don't call that helping someone. When I was there they did mention that they told you to do a "deep wipe" (low level format of the EMMC chip and all its' partitions and their contents). And they said that you did so.
They clown you behind your back like you're nothing, if I were you I'd stop listening to them or taking any advice they offer. Admittedly, you brought some of it on yourself, though.
If I post in any thread then I'm just trying to help, I don't get kicks by trying to help someone do something that will wreck their phones. You can take my posts as constructive criticism.
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Nope not once did anyone recommend him to wipe his persist and no one would ever recommend a deep wipe. Know your facts before pointing fingers. You are just as low as him. He came into the group asking for help, we gave him all the advice then he started bashing. He went ahead and did his own thing came back and said he did a "deep wipe" which is probably why he has all these issues now. We stopped supplying him help because he just runs his mouth just like you. Im glad I moved on from this phone. People like you and him ruin the dev community for phones.
@SaintZ93: Yeah sure I ruin dev communities...by donating money to devs that deserve it, providing constructive criticism and feedback in their threads, encouraging them to keep up the good work instead of constantly complaining, posting issues/bug reports on GitHub etc. I totally respect your work as a dev, Schwifty is solid. But with that said, I do remember with 110% certainty that @Choose an username... said that you guys jokingly recommended he do a deep wipe, he took it seriously. Too bad I didn't keep screenshots of the chat, then there would be proof.
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@Choose an username...: You are obviously clueless, by stating that persist is not supposed to be changed. You shouldn't format it, because it will remain empty and not repopulate, and caution should be taken when modifying its' contents. An empty persist will result in things like autorotate not working, sensors (GPS, etc), not working, perhaps an an inability to boot.
Unlike the system partition, persist is mounted as writable by default and isn't subject to dm-verity or system write restrictions, any file manager running with root authority can change its' contents. This applies not just to the A7, but by pretty much all phones that have a persist partition (nearly all). It is very much like data/cache except it is mainly used and written to by the Android OS behind the scenes, and isn't accessible to unrooted users.
I am of the opinion that @Predatorhaze's issues are mostly due to misinformation given to him by others, bad practices by him, and maybe a failing battery. The EMMC chip inside the device (it is a block storage device containing partitions, metadata, bootloader, etc) is mist likely fine. When it begins to fail that means your phone is on the way out and can only be fixed by installing a new motherboard. You will experiences symptoms like crashes, failure to boot, loss of data, seemingly random issues and other misbehavior.
Your logic is also sorely lacking, you can't lose what you dont have (addressing your reference to losing credibility when there is none).
You really don't know as much as you think you do. I wonder how many people have been tricked by your advice regarding battery calibration.
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Lol. you're just grasping at how little there is...
Persist shouldn't be changed after the phone comes out of the factory, because it contains some sensor calibration files. i'm not saying it doesn't ever get written, and i literally said below that line that he could even try getting a brand new persist backup from another phone because that's probably the best he can do (assuming he hasn't got one from his own phone)
Your logic is also sorely lacking, you can't lose what you dont have (addressing your reference to losing credibility when there is none).
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and about this? Don't even try.
I've seen the PMs that you sent to other people here, and i'm not gonna bite to your BS bait
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@SaintZ93: Yeah sure I ruin dev communities...by donating money to devs that deserve it, providing constructive criticism and feedback in their threads, encouraging them to keep up the good work instead of constantly complaining, posting issues/bug reports on GitHub etc. I totally respect your work as a dev, Schwifty is solid. But with that said, I do remember with 110% certainty that @Choose an username... said that you guys jokingly recommended he do a deep wipe, he took it seriously. Too bad I didn't keep screenshots of the chat, then there would be proof.
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Mike's right, it's an inside joke because he deep wiped the phone and said it made his phone detect two batteries. guess you remember wrong
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,you already told this.I even replaced battery. Voltages look weird too before and after.
It goes to warranty and never zte again
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so, you ignored me completely. Your battery being new doesn't mean that it didn't arrive trashed to your door.
Good, though. Swap the axon for something else, and call it a day
@AnonVendetta here are your screenshots. have fun
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@AnonVendetta here are your screenshots. have fun
Straight from source
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This is why people need to know their facts like I said before pointing fingers and blaming us for stuff we didn't say or do, preferably you Anon. Hope you stand corrected now.
@Choose an username...: You win there. But your logic is still screwed, because I wasnt even present during that convo. Those screens are from way before I ever showed up. When I said I recall, that logically means I would have had to be there, regardless of whether the memory is incorrect or not. And since you admit that it was an inside joke, that basically means you were trying to help him screw over his phone.
I really couldnt help busting out laughing after looking at the pics, @Predatorhaze dug his own grave. I mean, he mentioned deep wipe so many times, it's as if something was compelling him to do it. Clearly his own idea.
@Predatorhaze: Do yourself a favor, go smash your phone repeatedly with a hammer, at least then you can save yourself from listening to the advice of members that don't care to help anyway. There are newer phones out there, move on.
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@Choose an username...: You win there. But your logic is still screwed, because I wasnt even present during that convo. Those screens are from way before I ever showed up. When I said I recall, that logically means I would have had to be there, regardless of whether the memory is incorrect or not. And since you admit that it was an inside joke, that basically means you were trying to help him screw over his phone.
I really couldnt help busting out laughing after looking at the pics, @Predatorhaze dug his own grave. I mean, he mentioned deep wipe so many times, it's as if something was compelling him to do it. Clearly his own idea.
@Predatorhaze: Do yourself a favor, go smash your phone repeatedly with a hammer, at least then you can save yourself from listening to the advice of members that don't care to help anyway. There are newer phones out there, move on.
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may I ask, what logic is screwed now? You said I told Ter that, then a) we told you you were wrong, nothing more than that, and b) i sent screenshots proving that Ter was the one to jump on the deep wipe train. i never told you you should have known, which is what i assume you are peddling around here
@Choose an username...Are you *THAT* dumb? Since I wasn't there at the point during your screens, then I couldnt possibly know what was said then. I was recalling from the time I was there (and he wasn't), what was said. So if you want to also dig up screens of that too...