Hi all, im just wondering if anyone knows the current status on the development for rooting the 4.3 (MJ7) update, or unlocking the bootloader, if possible. I am going to inherit a gs4 a little over half a year from now and im wondering if i will even be able to even root and put a rom on it like i did for my gs3. Do you think they will ever root & rom the last version they ever release for the phone? The owner always updates it no matter what i say, so would it be okay for him to update to the latest update in the future, or should i push even harder for him not to update?
Thanks
joedajoester said:
Hi all, im just wondering if anyone knows the current status on the development for rooting the 4.3 (MJ7) update, or unlocking the bootloader, if possible. I am going to inherit a gs4 a little over half a year from now and im wondering if i will even be able to even root and put a rom on it like i did for my gs3. Do you think they will ever root & rom the last version they ever release for the phone? The owner always updates it no matter what i say, so would it be okay for him to update to the latest update in the future, or should i push even harder for him not to update?
Thanks
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Maybe it's me. But if I'm dealing with people who do this kind of thing purely for the challenge of it, I don't ask them when they'll be done.
I'm not trying to be a smartass, but this kind of work is dealing with a bunch of unknowns. Like all other phones, eventually it'll likely be figured out. Until then, best you can do is tune into the channels they use to communicate with each other and you can gain an appreciation for both what they're up against and how they're progressing.
Should you continue to update? Each update will usually close the hole exploited to gain root. The process begins all over again. My experience on the two HTC devices I've had is that it takes several months to find the first exploit and several weeks to find new ones after each update.
You're a year and a half out from owning your own S4. Be comforted in the fact that by the time you get it, it'll be a piece of crap compared to the new phones that'll be out then.
Then again, my original Incredible and the Rezound are still quite usable phones today.
joedajoester said:
Hi all, im just wondering if anyone knows the current status on the development for rooting the 4.3 (MJ7) update, or unlocking the bootloader, if possible. I am going to inherit a gs4 a little over half a year from now and im wondering if i will even be able to even root and put a rom on it like i did for my gs3. Do you think they will ever root & rom the last version they ever release for the phone? The owner always updates it no matter what i say, so would it be okay for him to update to the latest update in the future, or should i push even harder for him not to update?
Thanks
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3.7739 hours from now
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
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The owner always updates it no matter what i say, so would it be okay for him to update to the latest update in the future, or should i push even harder for him not to update?
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I can't see where it makes any difference. At this point in time I believe it's safe to say the S4 bootloader will never be unlocked. As for finding an exploit such as LOKI, I doubt it.
We do have SafeStrap which is a great achievement but not as good as LOKI as it won't allow ASOP ROMs to run.
Conclusion, learn to love the stock ROM, I believe you're going to have to live with it. You may be able to root which will allow you to remove bloat, let's hope so anyway....
NOTE: I should point out that 2 years from now I believe the manufacturers and carriers will have made ALL phones locked with no way to unlock or flash anything.
Meanwhile, the developers are still working so hope for the best but expect the worst.
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ive got a feeling the 605.5 update was the update we were supposed to get, but maybe vzw decided on holding on to it till they can patch the current s-off exploit.
call me cynical but coming from a droid x and i remember these type of things happening before with moto and vzw...to the point where devs waited for a new update before revealing how to get root or run cm9 using the 2nd init...
perhaps we should have waited for ics to drop first before unveiling s-off...
It was gonna be launched on other phones regardless.
I highly doubt it..we are a minority to the rest of verizon rezound users...so i doubt they would postpone it....but i can be wrong with some of big reds past behaviors
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My worst fear about it is that it is worse than the newest (5/7) leak and has S-OFF patched with hboot 2.26 or something. So people on the official track are screwed.
Hopefully that doesn't happen though.
just saying vzw is not above going all out against the dev community...even the gnex updates are subject to verizons approval even though the carriers were supposed to be cut out of the loop...vzw does not like anything they dont get money from that they could be charging for...extra functionality w/ no money=evil bad murder kill to them
it's more likely that verizon postponed it for a business reason, like waiting for the inc 4g to drop. it's a flagship device and they're going to want it to be the first HTC with ICS.
exactly my point...technically the only thing holding us back is kernel source which wont come out till the official ics is released...lets say, if they did decide to patch s-off first and then release ics we would either have to stick to these leaks or upgrade to the official...upgrading to the official and presumably a new hboot which would then leave us at the mercy of verizon until devs can find another s-off exploit., if they can...i know there will always be workarounds and exploits to be had but dev unlock and s-off gave us the keys to the kingdom but what if vzw changes the locks completely
Even if the OTA patches the S Off exploit, then we just don't take the OTA, and wait for our devs to use the OTA as the base for their ROMs.....that's how we used to do things on the OG EVO. Once you're rooted, you never, ever, took an OTA. I don't even think they could turn the security flag back on with an OTA update if they wanted to, but I'm not sure. I'm sure there's someone far more knowledgeable who can confirm or deny the truth of that.
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exactly my point...technically the only thing holding us back is kernel source which wont come out till the official ics is released...lets say, if they did decide to patch s-off first and then release ics we would either have to stick to these leaks or upgrade to the official...upgrading to the official and presumably a new hboot which would then leave us at the mercy of verizon until devs can find another s-off exploit., if they can...i know there will always be workarounds and exploits to be had but dev unlock and s-off gave us the keys to the kingdom but what if vzw changes the locks completely
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What would that do for those who don't have s off?
I'm running stock gb, rooted, that's all. I was going to wait until the update then s off.
Are you saying I should s off now? While I have the chance? Im not skilled or comfortable enough with flashing yet, to flash everything seperate like you can with s off. The main reason I would want s off is so that I can go back to complete stock, and locked. Is that enough to do s off?
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What would that do for those who don't have s off?
I'm running stock gb, rooted, that's all. I was going to wait until the update then s off.
Are you saying I should s off now? While I have the chance? Im not skilled or comfortable enough with flashing yet, to flash everything seperate like you can with s off. The main reason I would want s off is so that I can go back to complete stock, and locked. Is that enough to do s off?
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Yes...absolutely! You don't need to flash separate radios and kernels if you don't want. You should do it now just in case...
if youre not comfortable with s-off then dont do it...as im sure htc will not revoke our ability to unlock the bootloader, and you dont need s-off to gain root...im just wondering for those of us that have s-off if we just made it harder for ourselves by unveiling the s-off method before we had the official ics and source... but as tspderek said, it may have just been a decision to sell a few more of the newer phones
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What would that do for those who don't have s off?
I'm running stock gb, rooted, that's all. I was going to wait until the update then s off.
Are you saying I should s off now? While I have the chance? Im not skilled or comfortable enough with flashing yet, to flash everything seperate like you can with s off. The main reason I would want s off is so that I can go back to complete stock, and locked. Is that enough to do s off?
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I would get it done now. There's a chance, albeit small, that HTC patches the new HBOOT to block the exploit. Considering the steps we take to get S OFF, I'd doubt it though.
I understand people wanting to wait todo SOFF or being a little scared of the risks but i don't think anyone should be waiting or worried at this.
The SOFF method has been out for a while now, and alot of successful runs, with alot of troubleshoot threads, solutions - why be scared and wait? Id say just do it. Its running great for everyone whos done it and it gives you way more options with your device if you need to switch between firmware at this time. Why restrict yourself ?
Definitely s-off.
no reason not to.
Especially if you are still on the stock GB OTA release. It took me all of 3 minutes... start to finish. I'll even mail you my wire-trick wire if you need it
no. you need a blank sd card, that's all. when i did s-off i popped in my sd card, started the process, got it on the first go, installed the juopunutbear hboot, flashed recovery, and booted right back into my rom.
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Doesn't S-OFF require you to unlock the bootloader, and by unlocking the bootloader format your phone?
I'm completely stock without root and having to re-setup my phone is one of the main reasons I have not done the S-OFF yet.
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yes, you must unlock your bootloader... and root your phone (via installing amonRA recovery is easiest)
then you are ready to s-off.
I was stock GB phone, I unlocked/rooted and s-off'd it didn't take long at all.
yes you'll have to re-set up some things on your phone, but that's ok, you'll be fresh! All my important stuff is sync'd with google so I'm pretty rapid at wiping and starting from scratch. The benefits after doing this will far outdo any inconvenience of setting your phone up again. You can run a nandroid backup after you flash amonRA before doing s-off as well if you want, but the unlock procedure does give you a wipe unfortunately :-\ use Titanium Backup for your apps if you want to keep specific data about them, otherwise just re-install after you get setup again.
s-offing with a stock GingerBread phone is easy and fast.
Isnt the S-OFF method more hardware related than software related. That's why they tested it on all the S3 phones? Plus, I dont see VZW worrying about the few hundred of us that actually did S-OFF. We're such a small portion of overall users. I would think they would hold it back over greed rather than hardware exploits. Such as Droid Inc 4G is about to drop with ICS and Sense 4. They'd rather people buy that than this phone.
It's both hardware and software dependent IIRC
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Isnt the S-OFF method more hardware related than software related. That's why they tested it on all the S3 phones? Plus, I dont see VZW worrying about the few hundred of us that actually did S-OFF. We're such a small portion of overall users. I would think they would hold it back over greed rather than hardware exploits. Such as Droid Inc 4G is about to drop with ICS and Sense 4. They'd rather people buy that than this phone.
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This. But I think the exploit is both hardware and software, so theoretically they could patch the software side, if they cared enough to.
For new users, just my advice, worrying about this is pointless, it's kinda like us making threads that say next summer gas will be $7 a gallon (or $6 liter) and you keep yourself awake at night worrying about the "what ifs".
So I have a 2-3 month old Rezound that is still stock-everything, not rooted, etc. etc. Honestly, I am really tired of these ICS rumors failing every two weeks, and I have finally lost my patience. My question is, if I use the unrooted method for getting the leaked ICS on my device, will I still get the OTA update when/if Verizon finally releases the official version?
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will I still get the OTA update when/if Verizon finally releases the official version?
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Can't really give you a definite yes or no to this as unsure of what the version revision numbers would end up being. Adopt s-off, and don't worry, from there you can flash ANYTHING your heart desires. But remember "with power comes great responsibility".
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Can't really give you a definite yes or no to this as unsure of what the version revision numbers would end up being. Adopt s-off, and don't worry, from there you can flash ANYTHING your heart desires. But remember "with power comes great responsibility".
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Thank you so much for the reply, I figured the old rumors were a bust, but the May 9th one seemed more legitimate to me for some reason. I should have rooted it the day I got the phone, it's just the [expletive] warranty; with my luck, the second I root it, is going to be the second it screws up royally. Oh well, guess I'll have to rely on the total incompetence of the people at the Verizon store. Thanks again!
If you do an unlock/root, it's practically unbrickable. S-off there is more chance. From what you gain with custom roms/leaks on this phone is astoundingly a night/day difference.
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Even if you unlock and flash Ineffabilis 1.4, that even helps and won't need to mess with any radios or hboots.
I've heard this came out a couple months ago, but my phone as yet to update on its own. When I try and check for an update, it says there are no updates to be found. And when I check my phone, my current software is 3.14.605.12. Anybody know how I can upgrade to the latest? Ever since I upgraded to ICS, my phone has been nothing but trouble for me, and I'm hoping if I upgrade to the latest that some of these problems might go away. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!
HTC Rezound
Completely Stock / No mods
Android 4.0.3
Software 3.14.605.12
Verizon / USA
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I've heard this came out a couple months ago, but my phone as yet to update on its own. When I try and check for an update, it says there are no updates to be found. And when I check my phone, my current software is 3.14.605.12. Anybody know how I can upgrade to the latest? Ever since I upgraded to ICS, my phone has been nothing but trouble for me, and I'm hoping if I upgrade to the latest that some of these problems might go away. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!
HTC Rezound
Completely Stock / No mods
Android 4.0.3
Software 3.14.605.12
Verizon / USA
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Here is the link to the global update: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ull-ruu-build-4-03-605-2-for-the-htc-rezound/ Lucky for you, since you haven't unlocked you bootloader or done anything otherwise, you can flash this in your bootloader and get the update with no problem.
Two notes on flashing that...first it's unofficial, so flashing it might risk your ability to get OTA's in the future. Second, it will wipe your data, apps, and internal storage. However, with those two caveats, it will work just fine.
I appreciate the input guys. However, both of you state I need to "flash" to do this - which looks to me (as stated above) it's an unofficial method of getting this update. I'm curious, is there a way I can do this a legit way? How come my phone did not take the update, while others did? How can I force my phone to update? I'd like to keep my phone as stock as possible and not do any modding to it.
If I really have no other options, then I guess flashing is my best bet. And considering the last phone I had that I took any time to mod was the first-gen iPhone, I have no clue what any of this lingo means - but I guess that's what Google is for. However if any of you have a quick link in mind you could post that might help me or at least point me in the right direction, it'd be appreciated. I looked at the link posted above to the actual ROM file and it has some simple install instructions, however I'm not sure if that's all I need to do considering I'm still fully stock. Thanks again guys for all your help.
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I appreciate the input guys. However, both of you state I need to "flash" to do this - which looks to me (as stated above) it's an unofficial method of getting this update. I'm curious, is there a way I can do this a legit way? How come my phone did not take the update, while others did? How can I force my phone to update? I'd like to keep my phone as stock as possible and not do any modding to it.
If I really have no other options, then I guess flashing is my best bet. And considering the last phone I had that I took any time to mod was the first-gen iPhone, I have no clue what any of this lingo means - but I guess that's what Google is for. However if any of you have a quick link in mind you could post that might help me or at least point me in the right direction, it'd be appreciated. I looked at the link posted above to the actual ROM file and it has some simple install instructions, however I'm not sure if that's all I need to do considering I'm still fully stock. Thanks again guys for all your help.
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your phone is up to date! like they said above and the global is unofficial, therefore putting the global ruu on your phone would be the latest!
fcukthenet said:
I've heard this came out a couple months ago, but my phone as yet to update on its own. When I try and check for an update, it says there are no updates to be found. And when I check my phone, my current software is 3.14.605.12. Anybody know how I can upgrade to the latest? Ever since I upgraded to ICS, my phone has been nothing but trouble for me, and I'm hoping if I upgrade to the latest that some of these problems might go away. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!
HTC Rezound
Completely Stock / No mods
Android 4.0.3
Software 3.14.605.12
Verizon / USA
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Run the 4.03.605.2 RUU. Let it boot 1 time, then wipe and install shrike's CounterShrike CM9 ROM. It's seriously a great ROM and super smooth in comparison to stock. Basically, what this phone should have been from day 1.
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your phone is up to date! like they said above and the global is unofficial, therefore putting the global ruu on your phone would be the latest!
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My apologies, but I don't quite understand. You're saying my phone is up to date with the 3.14.x.x software, and the 4.03.x.x that I'm looking for is actually some "custom" ROM and unofficial?
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My apologies, but I don't quite understand. My phone is up to date with the 3.14.x.x software, and the 4.03.x.x that I'm looking for is actually some "custom" ROM and unofficial?
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think of it like getting a Blu-Ray Movie Early. They say when the Blu-ray should be released but some guys who know people can get an Early Copy but modify it to make it Better than its original Release. And this is all totally legal.
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think of it like getting a Blu-Ray Movie Early. They say when the Blu-ray should be released but some guys who know people can get an Early Copy but modify it to make it Better than its original Release. And this is all totally legal.
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So this 4.03.x.x is just not out yet? I've been seeing news articles of them reporting on it as far back as August. Has it just not rolled out to every phone yet? If not, then I will continue to wait. I just thought my phone was messed up and wouldn't take the update.
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So this 4.03.x.x is just not out yet? I've been seeing news articles of them reporting on it as far back as August. Has it just not rolled out to every phone yet? If not, then I will continue to wait. I just thought my phone was messed up and wouldn't take the update.
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But waiting on Verizon to Roll out the Update will take a loooonng time. but Sites have the Latest (Unofficial)Build. Unofficial is kind of like Alpha, and Beta. Unofficial is inbetween Alpha n Beta.
It basically gives u global function so if your not going to other countries don't even worry about it. I promise if u take the time to figure everything out and flash it you won't be able to tell a difference. Just skip it
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So this 4.03.x.x is just not out yet? I've been seeing news articles of them reporting on it as far back as August. Has it just not rolled out to every phone yet? If not, then I will continue to wait. I just thought my phone was messed up and wouldn't take the update.
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A few people got 4.03.605.1 a week or two after the 3.14.605.12 OTA, but they never mass rolled it out. I know of one person on XDA who got it as an OTA. 4.03.605.2 surfaced a few days later on Android Police, but I haven't heard of anyone getting it as an OTA, and there hasn't been a peep out of Verizon on it.
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A few people got 4.03.605.1 a week or two after the 3.14.605.12 OTA, but they never mass rolled it out. I know of one person on XDA who got it as an OTA. 4.03.605.2 surfaced a few days later on Android Police, but I haven't heard of anyone getting it as an OTA, and there hasn't been a peep out of Verizon on it.
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Awesome, just what I needed to know. I will just be patient then. Thanks!
Yep, basically the only reason why the global update ever made it to light is because the manufacturers like HTC like to "splash test" on a few customers, let them report back bugs and what not, at this point if there aren't any bugs or the bugs that are present are workable, they will release the update in mass to the rest of the public.
Basically, a splash tester knew what they were doing, whipped together that nice little "flashable" ruu package and released it for the rest of us to hack up for our own uses. Usually, we look forward to these little splash test releases because they do contain newer bug fixes, but they also contain new kernels, libs and other useful things we need to continue making roms like aosp or sense 4 work better
I'd say if you want it, go ahead and flash it. Its just not official as they say because it did not arrive onto your phone via ota update directly from htc and verizon. Although it is an official build built by htc.
I have just ordered my first smartphone, a new unlocked AT&T Motorola Atrix 4G MB860 from Ebay to be used on Cincinnati Bells network. It has Android 2.2 installed on it now. I have found all kinds of information about updating to Gingerbread directly from the phone when I first use it, but thats where i get lost.
My Questions:
1. Given the fact there is no data saved to get lost should I update it to ICS or JB now?
2. Is there a need to upgrade past Gingerbread?
3. To do the upgrade I have read about com10 and all kinds of ROMs, EXACTLY what do I need to upload (given no mods are on the phone).
4. Is there a post that is pretty much "upgrading for dummys"?
I figured if i need to upgrade now is the time so I dont get used to one OS and then have to relearn another because this one stops being supported (like the Iphone 3G).
Given that this is your first smartphone, it would probably be best that you just use it as is for a while and NOT TOUCH ANYTHING until you get VERY familiar with all the options and terminology. Who knows, you might just get to like it the way it is. Not sure why you want to tamper with it already but it sounds like you are sure to be on your way to disaster with your current level of experience.
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Given that this is your first smartphone, it would probably be best that you just use it as is for a while and NOT TOUCH ANYTHING until you get VERY familiar with all the options and terminology. Who knows, you might just get to like it the way it is. Not sure why you want to tamper with it already but it sounds like you are sure to be on your way to disaster with your current level of experience.
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Its not that I want to tamper with it (infact i would rather not). Thats why I was asking the questions in advance so I dont find myself with an overpriced Frisbee. I have had the "old guy" flip phones for years but its time to get into the21st century.
I was just given an Iphone 3g locked to AT&T. I unlocked and jailbroke it but soon found that all the apps I wanted were out for ios5 not for mine. I bought an unlocked Samsing Focus S windows 7.5 phone on Ebay and LOVED, LOVED, LOVED it. With Cincinnati Bell though, half of the features wouldnt work. After talking to everyone but Bill Gates himself, I contacted the seller and they have offered me this Atrix 4G in exchange. I just Want to make sure Im not getting myself back into the 3G scenario again where nothing will download to it due to having an outdated OS.
It all depends on exactly what apps you want/need. Most apps should work on older phones too (no matter what OS or brand), I'm kinda starting to suspect you are mostly after very new stuff. It is true that Froyo is now considered outdated (heck, even Gingerbread is just barely hanging in there), and I suppose you can try updating through "official channels" (either OTA or a downloadable official firmware), I would just suggest you don't go the modding route until you're familiar with the territory. I'm not saying it's difficult or complicated, I'm just saying you have to know it.
Also, I'm not sure why you call this "your first smartphone" when it's quite clear that you've had plenty others...
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Its not that I want to tamper with it (infact i would rather not). Thats why I was asking the questions in advance so I dont find myself with an overpriced Frisbee. I have had the "old guy" flip phones for years but its time to get into the21st century.
I was just given an Iphone 3g locked to AT&T. I unlocked and jailbroke it but soon found that all the apps I wanted were out for ios5 not for mine. I bought an unlocked Samsing Focus S windows 7.5 phone on Ebay and LOVED, LOVED, LOVED it. With Cincinnati Bell though, half of the features wouldnt work. After talking to everyone but Bill Gates himself, I contacted the seller and they have offered me this Atrix 4G in exchange. I just Want to make sure Im not getting myself back into the 3G scenario again where nothing will download to it due to having an outdated OS.
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That's less of an Android problem because of the fragmentation (probably the only good thing about fragmentation). I think around 40% of all Android phones are still on gingerbread, so developers aren't about to abandon all those users for their apps. The majority of apps work with gingerbread and you won't have a problem. The only app I have that is only for 4.0+ is Nova Launcher which can easily be replaced by one of the many other launchers that are compatible with GB.
Definitely just stay on GB for a while and use it however you want. If you start running into app compatibility for some reason, then you can look into roms. But I highly doubt that will be the reason you want a 4.0+ rom. After a full year on gingerbread I finally tried a custom rom. There is no rush at all to start changing things because it can brick your device really easily. Stay with stock everything and only think about messing with more advanced things once you actually require it.
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Definitely just stay on GB for a while and use it however you want.
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He said he's on 2.2 (Froyo) now, not GB.
OP, if I were you I'd probably go ahead and upgrade it to GB by the official OTA update process and try it out for a while till you get more familiar with it as ravilov mentioned. But that's just my opinion.
Thank you folks. Now I have a better understanding of the support of android. I think Ill do the GB
The apps. in question..... Weather, facebook, calendar ...... As far as the first smart phone.... I have had smart phone service since tuesday of last week and have not been able to use either of the devices. I couldnt even send or receive pics on the windows phone. So I was told this would work with my network. this will be the first smart phone useable out of 3 in the last week.
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It all depends on exactly what apps you want/need. Most apps should work on older phones too (no matter what OS or brand), I'm kinda starting to suspect you are mostly after very new stuff. It is true that Froyo is now considered outdated (heck, even Gingerbread is just barely hanging in there), and I suppose you can try updating through "official channels" (either OTA or a downloadable official firmware), I would just suggest you don't go the modding route until you're familiar with the territory. I'm not saying it's difficult or complicated, I'm just saying you have to know it.
Also, I'm not sure why you call this "your first smartphone" when it's quite clear that you've had plenty others...
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Doesn't the newest official AT&T firmware overwrite your bootloader making it impossible to tamper with it later on? Correct me if I'm wrong, since I might be mistaken. (I unlocked it the second I got my phone and haven't looked twice at any official firmware since then)
@ OP: I don't know you, so I don't know how computer literate you might be, but if you feel like up to the task, I would recommend unlocking the bootloader AND then staying on the official firmware (through the use of fruitcakes or Blur based ROMs), so you can get used to everything with as few bugs/quirks as possible. If you later decide to upgrade to more up to date firmware, then you'll have that option as well.
IF you're not very good with computers and other gadgets, then I would suggest you just leave it be and stay on the official firmware. But to make this choice, you need to be honest with yourself as to whether you're capable or not of doing it. How to use custom software on your phone isn't some well guarded secret or anything particularly complicated, it just requires for the user to do A LOT of reading so they understand exactly what they're doing, otherwise it's a recipe for disaster.
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Doesn't the newest official AT&T firmware overwrite your bootloader making it impossible to tamper with it later on? Correct me if I'm wrong, since I might be mistaken. (I unlocked it the second I got my phone and haven't looked twice at any official firmware since then)
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It is uncertain really. There are some indications that the bootloader in .145 is not really changed compared to the .141, but I guess the safest thing for the OP to do is to update to .141 if possible. I've also never had anything to do with official updates so I don't really know how it goes. This phone got rooted pretty much as soon as I got it and unlocked and flashed only days later.
@OP,
You certainly have a very strange and uncommon definition of "my first smartphone". Like, this Atrix that I'm holding right now is totally my first smartphone in the last hour... :angel:
BTW, a smartphone is not defined by "a phone with the smartphone service", in fact in most countries (mine included) such a concept doesn't even exist.
Also, all of the apps you mentioned should work perfectly on Froyo or at least on Gingerbread.
Well I has been awhile since I've had some time to really mess with my phone. I finally have some time and have no idea where to start. I'm currently running Hyperdrive rls10, 4.2.2 on ME7. Yes you've read that right. The build is from october of last year. I've done some searching on here and the web and was wondering what options I have for updating, as I obviously cannot find anything coming from ME7 of last year to anything current. I have been rooting and installing roms since the good 'ol days of the Original Droid so I have a pretty good understanding of procedure, adb and such. Even if someone could throw me a path to follow in terms of which firmwares to jump to in order to get up to date would be fine as I would appreciate any help whatsoever.
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Well I has been awhile since I've had some time to really mess with my phone. I finally have some time and have no idea where to start. I'm currently running Hyperdrive rls10, 4.2.2 on ME7. Yes you've read that right. The build is from october of last year. I've done some searching on here and the web and was wondering what options I have for updating, as I obviously cannot find anything coming from ME7 of last year to anything current. I have been rooting and installing roms since the good 'ol days of the Original Droid so I have a pretty good understanding of procedure, adb and such. Even if someone could throw me a path to follow in terms of which firmwares to jump to in order to get up to date would be fine as I would appreciate any help whatsoever.
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You probably want to keep ME7 as your bootloader. You could always find a rom that's NC5 and install it.
I will have to take a look around to see what I can find then. Is there any specific reason you recommend this? Like I said, it has been quite awhile so I know there is a lot I have missed in a years time.
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I will have to take a look around to see what I can find then. Is there any specific reason you recommend this? Like I said, it has been quite awhile so I know there is a lot I have missed in a years time.
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Surge is working on kexec and it's probably going to be for NC5. The only thing is that why would you want to keep steping up to another bootloader. You are the closest to MDK and if kexec works then you could upgrade to the bootloader it's on.