[Q] Looking for an IDE I can use for building the Android OS?
I have spent many years developing applications and device drivers for Windows (short pause while people make grunting noises and snide remarks)... but I recently switched over to developing software for Android. I have begun getting acquainted with the Eclipse IDE for Android app development (I downloaded the ADK bundle), and have also tried to acquaint myself with the process of building an Android ROM (ie: downloading the source and doing a build of the entire Android OS and support software). It seems like people who develop software for Linux are hung on the idea that everything should be done via typing shell commands into the terminal, and because Android is an "off shoot" of Linux, that the core developers of Android do the same (getting the source and building the OS is always described in terms of terminal shell commands).
I much prefer have a graphical UI in which I can just click on menu items and buttons to do the selected build operations. Is there an IDE (some sort of enhanced source code editor or whatever) that I can use to automate "repo" operations and to automate building the Android OS???
mediawiz said:
[Q] Looking for an IDE I can use for building the Android OS?
I have spent many years developing applications and device drivers for Windows (short pause while people make grunting noises and snide remarks)... but I recently switched over to developing software for Android. I have begun getting acquainted with the Eclipse IDE for Android app development (I downloaded the ADK bundle), and have also tried to acquaint myself with the process of building an Android ROM (ie: downloading the source and doing a build of the entire Android OS and support software). It seems like people who develop software for Linux are hung on the idea that everything should be done via typing shell commands into the terminal, and because Android is an "off shoot" of Linux, that the core developers of Android do the same (getting the source and building the OS is always described in terms of terminal shell commands).
I much prefer have a graphical UI in which I can just click on menu items and buttons to do the selected build operations. Is there an IDE (some sort of enhanced source code editor or whatever) that I can use to automate "repo" operations and to automate building the Android OS???
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No , that pretty much stops others that don't know Linux from trying to build android . But this pretty much only is limited to aosp roms ie cyanogen, aokp etc . Doesn't mean you can't make your own rom using stock and changing stuff like other rom devs do ...This is pretty much the difference in original development and
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In response to d_dan's thread I have decided to start putting together a glossary for android related terms/abbreviations. Feel free to reply with ones you would like added/modified as the list I'm beginning with is rather short. I will monitor the thread regularly and incorporate them into the original post, contributions will be duly credited.
GLOSSARY:
adb : Android Debug Bridge, a command-line application included in the SDK. Allows you to run certan commands on the phone from your computer over USB as well as pull/push files.
BART : Backup And Restore Tool, similar to Nandroid but with more customization options for advanced users.
Cook : To create a ROM for a certain device.
Emulator: A program that pretends its certain hardware/software running on another device.
Flash : To write a ROM/Radio/SPL/etc to a device.
Nandroid: A backup/restore tool that creates an image of your phone's software guts which can be reapplied if something goes wrong.
Radio : Clarification on this requested, I know it has something to do with the connectivity to your provider. WARNING: Mucking around with it can brick your phone in certain situations!
recovery: Booted into by holding the "Home" button while booting the phone, a custom recovery image allows Nandroid backups, console access, wipes and much more.
SDK : Source Developer Kit, Contains tools to create things for Android, also includes adb and an android emulator.
SPL : Secondary Program Loader, loads the android OS. WARNING!: Mucking around with it can brick your phone in certain situations!
Terminal: A way to run certain commands on your phone, like CMD on a windows platform.
Much appreciated.
Thanks
Correct me if im wrong, the radio is the Baseband Firmware, and serves as the IPL, or Initial Program Loader, which initiates the SPL, aka Secondary Program Loader...
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SDK : Source Developer Kit, Contains tools to create things for Android, also includes adb and an android emulator.
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SDK traditionally stands for "Software Development Kit". The Android SDK provides the tools necessary to debug various android components, as well as a handful of pre-compiled libraries which are primarily used in developing applications.
Also, the words "Cook", "Chef", "Baked", "Cooking", "Kitchen", and "ChickenWings" should be avoided.
We have SOURCE, we do not need to "cook" anything, we can build the platform the same way the carriers do.
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Also, the words "Cook", "Chef", "Baked", "Cooking", "Kitchen", and "ChickenWings" should be avoided.
We have SOURCE, we do not need to "cook" anything, we can build the platform the same way the carriers do.
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Although ports have some heavy-ass cooking going on
So many htc phones would be better with sense source. (that example of sense because it's the most popular redo of android these days)
Also, a thread like this shouldn't be in "chef central" because people in here should already be chefs, amirite?
But otherwise, I love this concept.
Edit: and honestly, I'm cool with those cheesy terms because they were made and developed on XDA, so thats good stuff.
What about terminal commands or whatever they are called?
Great idea. I've been lurking for quite some time now. Most of these terms I have been able to figure out without this glossary by continuing to read, read, read and search, search, search. The term I have not been able to figure out is odexed/deodexed. Anybody who could help me with these definitions will be greatly appreciated.
Edit: Please disregard my question. I was finally able to find a helpful post on the subject.
Programming Java on NT-Including generating APKs
I don't know anything about java but am trying to learn. Most of what I would like to create will be simple. It would be nice to be able to create APKs so I could pass on to others if I wished necessary.
I have not been very successful setting up a proper environment in windows or linux. There are numerous guides on the internet for each operating system. The problem is the world keeps revolving and by the time I find a guide and try to follow it to conclusion there have been changes that cause an incorrect environment which is unusable.
I remember programming on iPAQs (xscale-arm processor) both in c/c++ and c# on board the iPAQ. After looking around a little I have found several options for windows users (gui) and one for linux users (command line) to program on the NT in java.
I felt I should pass this information along for others. These will be listed windows Style(gui) first and then linux style(command line) last.
Windows Style environment(gui) :
Aide - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aide.ui&feature=search_result
Just install and you have a working environment which will compile android api10 example files with nearly no changes (example change=add res directory which had been left out of example). The only thing that was not apparent is to watch the notification area for any errors which give you the problem and how to correct them. Updates have been often and useful. My first choice for windows type (gui) environment. Check the web for more info and tutorials about this program.
Android Java Editor – https://play.google.com/store/apps/..._result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5hbmplZGkiXQ..
With this one I had to watch the video and pause it several times to decide how to get setup and use (no audio-just video). It works and creates APKs also but is a bit more involved and the learning curve of the program is higher due to no available directions.
Linux Style environment(command line):
Terminal IDE – https://play.google.com/store/apps/...cuside&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
Easy install, good tutorials, and very easy to learn. Can be used with a tether (wifi or cable) and telnet to use keyboard and screen from your pc. This one has updates since I downloaded and support is great. I couldn't get the software keyboard to work on stock 1.4.0 but works great in CM7. As a result I used hackers keyboard while on 1.4.0. Also creates APKs. Includes vim, Midnight Commander, etc. This is a thirty meg download and is twice that when installed but everything is installed in /data/apps/ folder so it had no impact on a stock 1.4.0 system.
Notes:
None of these require being rooted to setup and use. There are others but I have decided not to list them in this thread for various reasons. I feel I have chosen the easiest to get working and use and provide the end result of an APK if you desire.
I forgot to mention they are all free. I have just begun this project so I can't be any help on use of these programs or java. I'm just passing on information as I think others may find useful. The way I see this project is anything I learn (no matter how little) from this is added to my limited knowledge and certainly can't help.
Almost forgot, I use jota text editor to look at and create source files.https://play.google.com/store/apps/...51bGwsMSwxLDEsImpwLnNibG8ucGFuZG9yYS5qb3RhIl0.
Nvm, you're talking about developing for android on android
lufthanza said:
Nvm, you're talking about developing for android on android
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Yes that is correct.
I am hoping we can compile a list of resources for those that would like to get involved in the Ubuntu touch development process.
QtQuick 5.0: QML Application Developer Resources
Create a currency converter phone app
Adding gesture support to your app
Phablet PPA
Ubuntu mobile tech forums
Compiling native apps (unofficial):
Linaro toolchain: http://launchpad.net/linaro-toolchain-binaries/+download
or for Ubuntu: apt-get install gcc-arm-gnueabihf
This is enough for compiling simple console apps (this works, I checked this). But for much more complex projects it's need additional library.
Also there is no official full supported sdk for Qt/Qml (just Qml), however you can manually compile Qt5 sources for ameabi hf. I'm failed with compiling Qt/Qml using precompiled Qt dynamic libraries from Ubuntu Phone OS image (compiled ok, but run failed). So we need dev Qt package for armeabi hf. But it need to keep in mind Ubuntu Phone OS uses libhybris and some other libs for interaction with Android libs and drivers (which are BIONIC). That's why we need to wait for proper SDK.
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Please, check cross-compiling and share minds how to compile native Qt/Qml
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www$dot$googledrive$dot$com/host/0B5kDhuHYYcvwWDZpS0puZXhnZkk/ubuntu-sdk-dev-en.html (replase $dot$ with .)
Any resources for just creating Web Apps?
ojdon said:
Any resources for just creating Web Apps?
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Nothing that I have seen yet but I would imagine web apps will be used in a similar fashion to Ubuntu desktop. If this is the case here are some resources that may get you up and running.
Unity Web API
Ask Ubuntu: How do I use Ubuntu webapps
Launchpad Page (may be helpful)
What about fogger? You can create your own webapps....
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dim319 said:
Compiling native apps (unofficial):
Linaro toolchain: launchpad.net<slash>linaro-toolchain-binaries<slash>+download
or for Ubuntu: apt-get install gcc-arm-gnueabihf
This is enough for compiling simple console apps (this works, I checked this). But for much more complex projects it's need additional library.
Also there is no official full supported sdk for Qt/Qml (just Qml), however you can manually compile Qt5 sources for ameabi hf. I'm failed with compiling Qt/Qml using precompiled Qt dynamic libraries from Ubuntu Phone OS image (compiled ok, but run failed). So we need dev Qt package for armeabi hf. But it need to keep in mind Ubuntu Phone OS uses libhybris and some other libs for interaction with Android libs and drivers (which are BIONIC). That's why we need to wait for proper SDK.
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If you are building simple console apps, you can also build them on the device itself through ssh, and using `sudo apt-get install gcc build-essentials`
BukaKing said:
If you are building simple console apps, you can also build them on the device itself through ssh, and using `sudo apt-get install gcc build-essentials`
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Right, but I want to make Qt/Qml.
I got toolchain, grab sources of platform-api and libhybris from
launchpad.net/~phablet-team, made libs (some of them was grabbed form device), edit mkspecs for qmake, compiled app, pushed it on device, edited on device: /data/ubuntu/usr/share/qml-phone-shell/Applications/applications.js and finally it's work!. Even can be launched from Apps page (on device).
I solved problem with assertion from previous my post, but I got new problem which is GUI. Ubuntu Phone OS window manager put my GUI to the bottom layer, so I can't see GUI of my app until qml_phone_shell process will be killed!
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Good news: I have solved all my problem. So bit later I post extended instruction on how I did it!
What this means? We can develop native C++ Qt/Qml apps without ssh and install them on device!
So the guide says the minimum requirements of developing Ubuntu apps is to use Ubuntu 12.10. But I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 and it's difficult to sacrifice. Would it be fine to develop Ubuntu apps using 12.04?
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So the guide says the minimum requirements of developing Ubuntu apps is to use Ubuntu 12.10. But I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 and it's difficult to sacrifice. Would it be fine to develop Ubuntu apps using 12.04?
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Probably not. If I were you I would install 12.10 in a virtual machine until 13.04 is released. Than revisit the upgrade issue.
L0rDKadaj said:
So the guide says the minimum requirements of developing Ubuntu apps is to use Ubuntu 12.10. But I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 and it's difficult to sacrifice. Would it be fine to develop Ubuntu apps using 12.04?
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Where did you read that? There is Ubuntu SDK for Precise (12.04), Quantal (12.10), and Raring (13.04) at ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper repo!
I think it even possible to develop on Windows, however it takes a lot of work to recompile sources of parts)
dim319 said:
Right, but I want to make Qt/Qml.
I got toolchain, grab sources of platform-api and libhybris from
launchpad.net/~phablet-team, made libs (some of them was grabbed form device), edit mkspecs for qmake, compiled app, pushed it on device, edited on device: /data/ubuntu/usr/share/qml-phone-shell/Applications/applications.js and finally it's work!. Even can be launched from Apps page (on device).
I solved problem with assertion from previous my post, but I got new problem which is GUI. Ubuntu Phone OS window manager put my GUI to the bottom layer, so I can't see GUI of my app until qml_phone_shell process will be killed!
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Good news: I have solved all my problem. So bit later I post extended instruction on how I did it!
What this means? We can develop native C++ Qt/Qml apps without ssh and install them on device!
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I also managed to build a Qt/Qml hello world app on the phone itself.
You said that you already solved your problem, so maybe you already found this... I got my hello world program to show up on top by adding this to the command line when launching my program:
./hello --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/qmlscene.desktop
BukaKing said:
You said that you already solved your problem, so maybe you already found this... I got my hello world program to show up on top by adding this to the command line when launching my program:
./hello --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/qmlscene.desktop
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It's useful for launching apps from bash on device.
I used another way. I didn't use ssh for compiling and deploying my app. Just PC and adb. And run app from UI shell (not from bash).
This is how I did:
www$dot$googledrive$dot$com/host/0B5kDhuHYYcvwWDZpS0puZXhnZkk/ubuntu-sdk-dev-en.html (replase $dot$ with .)
The best place to get started with apps on Ubuntu Touch is
developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/
I've played around with windroy a few times and tried to contact the developers to get an idea how they made it possible, also if there is a chance they'll open source the project. Tried a few times and they never answered.
After doing some research I've found pieces to make something like windroy possible. There is colinux to translate the linux kernel to the windows kernel. There is portable ubuntu that uses colinux which shows how to make the UI live along side window's ui. Then there is Android-x86 with all the changes needed to get android to run on desktop hardware. I've also read from a google engineer that android does very little changes to the linux core kernel, that all their systems are built in userspace and built as drivers. Hopefully that means any changes to colinux should be minimal to get android to work. My hope is to find a way to get a command prompt and at least adb working, just not sure how to get started with such a project though.
This comes down to my question, with all the pieces available, I'm surprised to find no information of anyone trying to make this happen. Has no one just not tried or has it been attempted but always ended in failure?
Hello guys,
I have been trying some information to get started but i have not been that successful. I am looking some advise, guide on how to get started with building a bot for a game in android. I am an experienced developer (java, ruby, c) but never coded anything in android or like a bot for a game. Besides running emulators to execute the game what other tools do i use? Do i execute the bot on the emulated device (android) or my pc which somehow can access the emulator. Any links or guides would be helpful, thanks.
I did have a look into monkeyrunner which seems kinda promising (although i hate python ) but still its not very clear how those scripts access the android game.
Mercy0r said:
Hello guys,
I have been trying some information to get started but i have not been that successful. I am looking some advise, guide on how to get started with building a bot for a game in android. I am an experienced developer (java, ruby, c) but never coded anything in android or like a bot for a game. Besides running emulators to execute the game what other tools do i use? Do i execute the bot on the emulated device (android) or my pc which somehow can access the emulator. Any links or guides would be helpful, thanks.
I did have a look into monkeyrunner which seems kinda promising (although i hate python ) but still its not very clear how those scripts access the android game.
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do you have any information about this, i am in the same way