So i have an htc dna right now. I love the phone itself but not a fan of the aosp bugs. We have great devs but htc does some big locking down. Does lg do the same? Are there any phone related bugs on cm? Is dev support strong? And overall do you think i should get this the g2 or wait?
Id be getting the Verizon version. I checked the dev threads and all my favorite rons are official so that's no problem
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If you can afford it, then by all means: yes.
The main issues with AOSP, in my opinion, were the lack of IR Blaster and Stock LG camera. Now, both those apps have been ported, making the phone really useable and great.
No one needs to be told why the Nexus 5 is great, so let's take that as a base for the G2, then add on:
-Wonderful camera!
-Incredible battery life!!
-Buzzword screen!!!
(Okay, I'm having too much fun)
-Minuscule bezels
-Interesting hardware key setup
-Double tap to wake
The Nexus 5 is still a mighty fine device, but if you can afford the G2 and enjoy the back buttons + larger size, then it's a great choice.
Ultimately, play with it in store and see if you like it more than the Nexus 5. As for AOSP support, it's good enough to be a daily driver, but will never be as stable as on the Nexus series, so if it's up to software, you should adjust your choice accordingly.
Sacrosaint said:
If you can afford it, then by all means: yes.
The main issues with AOSP, in my opinion, were the lack of IR Blaster and Stock LG camera. Now, both those apps have been ported, making the phone really useable and great.
No one needs to be told why the Nexus 5 is great, so let's take that as a base for the G2, then add on:
-Wonderful camera!
-Incredible battery life!!
-Buzzword screen!!!
(Okay, I'm having too much fun)
-Minuscule bezels
-Interesting hardware key setup
-Double tap to wake
The Nexus 5 is still a mighty fine device, but if you can afford the G2 and enjoy the back buttons + larger size, then it's a great choice.
Ultimately, play with it in store and see if you like it more than the Nexus 5. As for AOSP support, it's good enough to be a daily driver, but will never be as stable as on the Nexus series, so if it's up to software, you should adjust your choice accordingly.
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This and their stock ROM isn't bad either
I came from the DNA as well, and I'm a big HTC fan. The upgrade to the G2 isn't huge but if you're like me you'll be blown away by the battery life, the knock knock feature, and a really responsive stock ROM. I have no regrets at all and am really enjoying this phone.
As always, YMMV.
Also, you could check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2526320
Well being verizon i can't get a nexus. Thanks fior the informative posts o what exactly are the aosp bugs?
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Im actually so torn on this also. Im prob gonna hop off verizon on WED to get ether the Nexus 5 or G2. I have a galaxy nexus and love roming.
Im so sick of bad battery life. having like 1 1/2 hours of screen on time sucks so bad.
im a flash freak though. and the G2 on tmobile doesn't see to have a bunch of DEVs for it
I love nexus devices but the battery in it scares me. I also love vanilla feel of android. but doesnt seem like many devs are working on vanilla roms for the G2. ugh what to do
I also know roms and kernels help battery life. so maybe the nexus 5 battery can get better?
It came down to what you set as important. If you want a great camera, battery, features, and screen (not the most color accurate, but wow the screen is amazing nonetheless!) then go for the G2. But if you love playing around with many different roms, kernels, and want a big development, and dont care too much about battery, and camera..well, then just go for nexus 5.
Take in mind that some g2's have screen issues..
From a G2 owner (d802)
Norside said:
It came down to what you set as important. If you want a great camera, battery, features, and screen (not the most color accurate, but wow the screen is amazing nonetheless!) then go for the G2. But if you love playing around with many different roms, kernels, and want a big development, and dont care too much about battery, and camera..well, then just go for nexus 5.
Take in mind that some g2's have screen issues..
From a G2 owner (d802)
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I just dont like all the bloatware. If i could get vanilla 4.4 on the G2 id be so down. but i dont think you can.
LG G2 is in the moment the best Smartphone.I have sold my Note 2 for the LG G2 Monster!
This phone is amazing. I was a little apprehensive returning to LG after being somewhat disappointed with their devices/support years ago. I always research like crazy before I buy something, I probably watched every G2 video review and comparison video I could find. I paid close to full retail to keep my unlimited data on Verizon and I don't regret it one bit.
Some of the video reviews had me feeling really uncertain about how messy LG's UI would turn out. In some strange way that I can't explain, a lot of the videos did make it look like a cheap and overdone skin that LG slapped on top of Android, but owning the phone for a few weeks now, I find absolutely nothing annoying or disappointing about their UI. I'd been using AOSP ROMs on my Bionic and I never thought I would like anything non-stock-Google again. There is nothing wrong with the LG UI. I love it.
I have never felt less of an urge to install a custom ROM. To answer your question, the dev support does seem pretty strong, much better than I thought it might be initially. It didn't seem like too many big names were excited to start supporting the G2, but go look in the Verizon development forum, there is a ton. I bought my phone lightly used and didn't even realize at first that the person had already installed Clean ROM which is just a de-bloated version of stock with not much else added to it. So I can't say that I've ever used the fully stock LG ROM, but Clean ROM is as close as it gets, and I have yet to really find enough reason to try flashing Carbon ROM or Malladus for their added features, although I am checking the dev forum every day just to see what's going on. But this stock ROM is not missing any functionality that I need. I'm really not sure when I'm going to get around to even trying a fully custom ROM.
I'm actually very surprised, and kind of eating my words, when it comes to the fact that nobody has managed a 4.4 ROM yet. I kept telling everyone who was going to leave Verizon just for the Nexus 5 that surely the G2 would get 4.4 ROMs figured out almost immediately because of how similar the device is. I don't understand how so many other unrelated devices have started to see 4.4 ROMs meanwhile a carbon copy LG branded Snapdragon 800 phone still doesn't have one. Yet, again, this really doesn't matter. Aside from the general desire to always have the newest version of Android, I don't really find myself caring that I don't have 4.4 yet. And the rumors going around say that we might actually get an official update before the end of this year, which is really surprising, because I knew going in that it was going to be a calculated risk choosing to own an LG device again and possibly NEVER seeing any official updates based on their prior reputation for not supporting devices. I guess I had it backwards, I doubted LG and thought the devs would get 4.4 ported within a few weeks, but at this rate it's looking like we might get official 4.4 before anything else. (None of what I said here is meant to be a jab at the dev community, I literally have no understanding of what it would take to get 4.4 working on the G2 or why we don't have it yet - but I'm not saying it in a negative way, just surprised that I was wrong about how quick we would get 4.4 ROMs).
The battery is great yet sometimes I am surprised how quickly I can drain it. Basically it kicks butt at standby time. If you have a busy couple of days where you aren't using the phone much, it'll be alive and kicking 40+ hours later and still not totally dead. But I guess because of the beautiful display the powerful internals, if you have a day where you're really using it a lot, you can still kill it in 10 hours.
The camera is a mixed bag. People have cooked up improved camera files that you can flash but I have yet to try it yet, so my opinions are based totally on the stock camera. The low light capability is amazing compared to my last phone, it's actually possible to get a decent picture in a dimly lit interior room, BUT when you zoom in on it, the post-processing does some weird stuff to the photo to make it clear enough to see while trying to keep noise levels down, so upon close inspections the pictures almost end up looking like blotchy paintings instead of true-to-live. The pictures look GREAT on the 5 inch screen if you plan to just view them on there, but if you were to actually want to take a 10mp picture from your phone (10mp is the largest resolution that gives you 16:9 widescreen pics, full 13mp is more square) and try to use it as a desktop wallpaper or view the photo on the TV, it's not going to look great. So the G2 hasn't totally convinced me to sell my full size Sony camera yet. But for a phone camera, it really is great, and compared to my Bionic, there are countless low-light or other situations where the G2 can still grab me a decent image whereas with my old phone I was used to sometimes wanting a picture of something and simply having to accept that I wasn't going to be able to get one. If you let the G2 use the flash in low light then the blotchy post-processing is not an issue and the picture will look great, but in a lot of cases I at least personally try not to use flash and want to get images in their original natural lighting. So you can choose true low light and accept the less than perfect quality, or turn on the flash (super bright and useful compared to the lame flash on other phones I've had) and get a clear picture.
I wondered as I researched the G2 if I should take the full plunge and get something even larger like the Note 3 - so glad I didn't. I have fairly large hands but the top corner of the G2 is already getting to the point where you feel like you might drop the phone while you're reaching your thumb across. LG was right in saying they felt 5.2in was the largest practical size unless you want to have to 2-hand your phone all day long.
In fairness I should mention my phone came with an Incipio Dual Pro case that I have kept on since day 1, so I don't have a lot of direct experience handling the phone by itself or dealing with the fingerprint-magnet texture. I would never want to use such a great phone without a case to protect it from a fall anyway. The Incipio dual pro is the best case I have ever had on a device. This goes for the rear buttons as well, it probably is true that if using the phone without a case, the Verizon button design would probably be very hard to distinguish which button you're about to press without looking at it. The Dual Pro case covers the buttons with its own raised section of rubber making it very easy to tell which button you're about to press by touch alone.
The screen is beautiful if not a shade too warm color wise compared to what I am used to. For a few days I installed a screen adjuster app to kick down the slightly warm tint of the colors and make it a colder-bluish hue, but this may just be personal preference, and the screen is not "off" enough to really be an issue, so much so that I generally haven't bothered to turn on the screen adjuster app most days if I happen to notice that it isn't currently running. When I used to own a Nexus 7 I thought the colors seemed warm too, so it may just be that the Bionic I used for the past two years had a colder color tint to it so now I'm biased to thinking every other screen has whites that are too yellowish.
Knock on/off is a great feature but I'd be totally fine having to use the buttons all day if I had to. Again the Incipio case really makes the rear buttons fun to use.
Alright I've ranted enough. I was worried that maybe I too would be disappointed that I didn't leave Verizon and get the Nexus 5, but not true at all. Just yesterday on Twitter someone posted a G2 and an N5 side by side and I thought the G2 looked so much better and you do notice the slightly increase screen real estate.
Also - using LMT pie controls so that way the ugly nav bar doesn't always have to be taking up space at the bottom of the screen is AWESOME. Sometimes using Apex launcher I even hide the top status bar as well so I can just have a 5.2 inch screen of beautiful wallpaper and nothing else. I don't even keep app icons on my home screen, I have the top 5 apps that I use programmed into Pie controls along with the home-back-search-recents navigation controls.
My phone search began with wanting an HTC One, as well as considering the Droid Maxx, Note 3, Galaxy S4, Nexus 5, or waiting until next year to see if Android is going to go 64-bit to keep up with the iPhone. I have zero regrets with getting the G2, it is so beautiful and fun to use. There's always room for personal opinions and likes/dislikes so your experience may vary, but I would say if you like what you've seen of the G2 so far, you'll have no reason not to be happy getting it.
I'm not really sure why so many people bash the camera, I find the camera included in CM to be great. I just wish it had a 13MP option, but nonetheless here's a sample photo I took using the CM camera:
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You just reminded me that I have to test the camera
P.S. this is my first phone where I too don't feel any need to flash a custom ROM. Works superbly out of the box.
Thank you glassforest. I have been on the fence w the g2 and n5. I love flashing but the batt, screen and compliments are pulling me to the g2. I see u can root the g2 which is great. On on the gnex now and my thoughts on any device is as long as batt, screen , speed , speaker and customization are better than the gnex I'm good. I know there may not be as much dev work like the gnex but.... Does anyone know if the speaker is better than the gnex? And between the att and Verizon variant is there any system or software differences? I know the back buttons are different but not sure to stay on vzw or go to att
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I love almost everything about G2. Though i'm not used to this big size of screen. Especially when writing, it's hard to do with one hand for me. If you want to use a lot with one hand i would get a 4.7 or 5 inch screen. Although with two hands the G2 is great. It feels more like a phablet than a phone at this moment. But i only just got it, maybe just have to get used. Soo, mixed feelings about the size, somebody say something good about the size soo i can sleep well
ABSOLUTLEY if you are tired of flashing and dealing with painful custom roms.
this phone works how ever you want it to work. it is perfect in terms, of usability, usefulness of features and beauty.
I don't get why cm 11 is not present in lg g2. It is the only thing stepping me off buying it.
zabihjan said:
ABSOLUTLEY if you are tired of flashing and dealing with painful custom roms.
this phone works how ever you want it to work. it is perfect in terms, of usability, usefulness of features and beauty.
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I'm not sick of flashing at all. I do want better features though .,.faster, better cam and such. I know the n5 is all that bit the batt and screen size...mmmmmm. I am just up in the air ...one day n5 the next g2... I will say I played w the g2 at the store and the screen size for me is the perfect size. I have good size hands so I don't see the size being a problem.
Oh forgot...since BL is locked I'm guessing no kernels to tweak colors, uc/oc, UV/ov...ect
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I just dont like all the bloatware. If i could get vanilla 4.4 on the G2 id be so down. but i dont think you can.
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The good thing about newer Android is that you can DISABLE apps in the SYSTEM>APPS page without even needing root.
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I don't get why cm 11 is not present in lg g2. It is the only thing stepping me off buying it.
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We'll get 4.4 as soon as the devs figure it out. We'll probably see AOKP 4.4 first since most of the guys there have (Verizon) G2s. Also with the N5 being our little cousin, you know we'll get CM11 also. There still are lots of bugs with custom 4.4 roms which is why most devs are starting their builds from scratch and causing delays.
The current devices that have 4.4 or CM11 are barely running it. There are lots of bugs and issues still. And you'll notice that it's the older hardware that the devs are more familiar with that are getting ports. The Nexus 5 doesn't even have official support for CM11 yet. All just unofficial kangs. Once CM11 gets to a point where they can start supporting some devices, then we'll get some love. There is nothing stopping anyone from doing their own CM11 G2 ports.
Ewww, use 13MP and crop yourself. That "4:3" has all the info of the 10MP "16:9" plus more. Agreed its a mixed bag.
I tend to disagree on cm 11. Considering that gnex should be obsolete for Google by now, this phone is running cm 11 pretty well even though it has an incompatible kernel. But there is nothing here. Is it because of drivers that are not open?
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Sorry I know if everyone asked these general questions about what to buy the forums would be flooded. Hopefully posting in the general section I'm not getting in the way of any important development threads or anything. I wouldn't ask if I weren't really struggling with some indecision here.
I'm a Verizon customer, still have unlimited. Using a Droid Bionic with Carbon Rom. I'm planning to buy at full retail price to leave my data plan in tact.
LG wasn't really even on my radar. HTC One was originally what caught my eye for the styling and great reviews, then the new wave of Droids came out, and now the G2. I think I'm fairly decided in terms of currently available devices and don't need help there, I would get the G2 if it came down to what's on store shelves right now. I've seen comments on the HTC One camera ranging from amazing to garbage, and not sure I would like Blinkfeed. The One speakers would be nice but can't say I really need internal audio from my phone that much. Doesn't sound like the Droid Maxx battery is really thrilling anyone, plus with upgrading at full retail price it kinda isn't all that interesting to jump from one Moto Droid to another, it'll just feel like a differently shaped Bionic. Moto X seems interesting everyone keeps saying it's the best all around form factor and the most refined that an Android device has ever felt, but I think I'm ready for a bigger screen and battery.
I'm more a bit hesitant that I'll get the G2 and then the Nexus 5 or Note 3 is going to be amazing. Although I'm well aware of the crop of Nexus 5 rumors, apparently not having Verizon's LTE band (then counteracted by a newer rumor saying there may have been an FCC filing for a separate Verizon LG device that wasn't the G2 and could be their variant of the Nexus 5). Plus a rumored smaller battery for the Nexus compared to the G2 which would lower my interest in it. Note 3... I'm not really dying to own my first Samsung but it seems it might outdo the G2 in a few ways, more Ram, SD card slot, etc. Obviously anything compared to the Bionic I have will seem nice, 32GB (or the 20-whatever that's actually available after system install) on the G2 will be plenty, I am used to working with the 16gb I have on my Bionic and am used to having to send stuff to my PC harddrive if my phone gets too full.
I've owned LG in my cell phone history, had an LG Dare and then an Ally for my first Android phone. Their hardware is alright but if I recall correctly they are pretty iffy about timely updates and then just stop supporting devices once they hit a certain age. But then Motorola pulled the same stunt during my Bionic ownership and most of you will know about how long it took Bionic to get system updates. I don't think I ever really saw myself going back to LG as I've felt the same indifference towards them as the rest of the community for a while now, although it kinda says something about them that they're still good enough to keep getting contracted for the Nexus devices. And then this G2 landed on my radar out of nowhere.
G2 camera sounds great with a few reviews sprinkled in that suddenly didn't think it was all that amazing, but I take pictures like crazy, camera is important, I think I may even sell my Sony Nex 3 full size camera as a way to help pay for a phone upgrade, the big camera just sits here and collects dust when I can have a camera in my pocket all day in a phone.
Important aspects to me, battery life (sick of charging my Bionic constantly, I think my extended battery is wearing out because I can just watch the percentage drop like a rock as I use it), quality display would be nice after settling for the Bionic with it's blah pentile screen, camera as I mentioned above, other than that I browse, text message, need Tethering, and use Pandora in my car. And I do care about developer support, I like messing with Roms, but if the factory Rom is decent once you get it set up, I can live with not having as large of a dev community as S4 might have or whatever. So yeah with that said it seems like a no brainer saying display-battery-camera, G2 sounds to be the best at all of that right now, I'm just worried about what else is coming out this holiday season. I know the Nexus announcement is rumored for next month but I just hate to wait just to find out it's not coming to Verizon or is definitely going to have some lame 2300mah battery. You know how it is when you're ready to upgrade...
-I suppose we'd all be guessing, but how good are people feeling about the G2 getting a KitKat update in a reasonable time window? This is the LG flagship so I would hope for good support, but the LG skin and addons are so overwhelming and heavily skinned devices always take longer to get their updates out. I'd be thrilled to get this phone but that would quickly turn to disappointment if we're waiting for 4.4 longer than anyone else.
-How is developer support looking? Have any big names pledged to add the G2 to their supported devices? I really like Carbon Rom on Bionic. I suppose it's a good sign that root and loki happened right away but so far Rom releases, especially for VZW, looks slow.
-Speaking of ROMs, do we have any idea if any of the stock stuff like knock-on etc will ever be able to be pulled and applied to a custom ROM, or is it pretty much a guarantee that if you switch to anything but stock you're going to be sacrificing a lot of the factory features?
-I noticed the G2 doesn't even come up on the Top Devices window at the first XDA forum portal, is that a bad sign for community interest in the device? HTC One, Note 3, etc all show up as the top devices on XDA right now. Is there a community behind this device or not really? Does everyone dig the specs but shy away from LG with their heavy skin?
-It WiFi tethering working with the current root exploit? I use my Bionic as my home internet access, on the stock ROM it seems like FoxFi will stop working after a couple of days like it's detecting that I'm tethering, on Carbon ROM I can tether for gig after gig of data and no issue.
-I've seen more than one person gripe about thermal throttling and the G2 starting to run like utter garbage in certain conditions. That would certainly suck to spend 600 on. Is this widespread?
I don't think I'd regret buying it immediately but I see the potential that only a few weeks into ownership the "oh crap why did I go with LG" feeling will start.
For the awesome specs...yes. Its a great deal for what you get. I don't know if tethering is working yet but I do know pda net works. Top be honest with my wife and I we were concerned about going share everything but I got a music unlimited service for 50 a year and downloaded everything instead of streaming. We went from using 6+ gb a month to under 2. And almost all the music is ultra high quality which works perfect with the 24 bit DAC. I stopped using Pandora because of this...I can skip all I want no commercials and choose weekday I want. I am very happy with the lg UI MINUS the giant size. So fast there had been a fantastic dev community modding the stock rom. Coming from a GNex I am ecstatic to get TWRP already. I wouldn't be too sure that anything coming out from Samsung will be crackle since the S4 is locked down now. Battery is about 9-10 hours of straight screen and 24+ with normal usage including hours on and off of heavy use. The only thing I don't like is the weak out of the box speaker but they have already modded ATT gain to make it better. The Btooth audio and head phone quality makes for this Times a million. I don't see anything else coming close unless you are Andre the Giant and like the phablet Note type. The one is bigger with a smaller washed out color LCD. The speakers rock but it's not worth the lack of general power. Grey a quick window case it's s fantastic.
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Wow. There's about 5 minutes I can't get back.
Nexus5 will most likely never hit Verizon.
Big name devs? This phone is like a week old. Time will tell.
Wi-Fi tethering not currently working.
Buy it. If you don't like it inside of 14 days, return it. By that time, news of the nexus 5 should be out.
Thank you Devs. From my LG G2.
Wifi tether wasn't working on the S4 or One, I just had both phones on Sprint and T-Mobile with various roms and kernels. The only other phone I considered was the Note 3 but I can't stand the home button, would have liked the extra real estate but the G2 is still manageable for me to use one handed and a stylus would have been wasted on me.
This phone doesn't even need roms tbh.
I'd buy this phone all over again. No other phone feels like this one a atm.
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I was following every phone to come down the pipe for the last six months or more. I had an LG Nitro HD for my last phone and my first was the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10. The nitro was terrible. The only time that phone ran right was on stock gingerbread. The development was fairly slow and the community small because it was att only and wasn't popular at that. I was about as put off by LG as they come.
Two days ago, I bought the G2, and I absolutely love it. The battery life really is phenomenal. I say this because it had kept up with my initial high usage love for a new phone. I plugged in last night with 34% left after having almost six hours of screen on time at 80% brightness. The note 3 might be great,but then again it might not. Only 100mah larger battery with a .5in larger screen concerns me a bit. The processor is already insane in the G2 so that will likely not make a difference for a bit. The ram shouldn't be an issue for at least an upgrade cycle at minimum.
Honestly, the biggest difference between this and the nexus is battery and screen. Nexus is 5 in and only had 2300mah so unless Kit Kat has major battery improvements that phone was no longer a option for me. The tipping point for this phone over the moto x in my case? Development and community. This phone already has a larger forum Than the moto x. That's not the only determinant but helps significantly. Go check the nitro forum, this phone is already almost as large... this phone had root on day one I think it was and boot loader bypass within a week of launch. And a Rom 2days later. It may not be as fast some devices but that is still damn fast. Will this be a great dev phone? Too early to tell but it looks promising. And with the nexus being nearly identical hardware wise, that could help too.
Hope that helps.
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Hi Guys,
After owning several iPhones back in the day (up to the 3GS) and then Nexus One, Nexus S and Nexus 4 (skipped the Galaxy Nexus) and a Nexus 7 tablet, always on (unrooted) stock Android, I couldn't resist the temptation and got myself a 32GB LG G2 (European version).
Why not wait a few weeks for the Nexus 5 ?
The main reason is that the LG G2 has just the perfect hardware specs for me, there is nothing I would realistically want more. The Nexus 5 will have smaller screen and smaller battery. Also, the last 3 versions of Android did not bring any significant useable stuff to the table in order to make me really want to update, so the newest Android update is not so important to have.
The other reason is that I am really bored of stock Android. There are some things that Google will stubbornly never add or change, and I'm not one to install custom ROMs all day. For example, I can't set different sound volumes for the call ringtones and notification ringtones. And the notification LED is so neglected by the stock Android (on phones that have it). I gave my "old" Nexus 4 to my girlfriend, and although she loves to speed over her old Galaxy S Advance, she immediately begun asking where are the "gimmicks" that Samsung included into its software and that she used all the time. This is saying something.
One minor reason is that I have had hardware problems ALL of my Nexus devices, despite the fact that I take great care of them: the Nexus One's power button became loose and broke over time (HTC support really sucks !), the Nexus S capacitive sensor burned in a corner (display assembly replacement), the Nexus 7 speakers broke and now sound is very distorted. The Nexus 4 screen was a bit yellowish when I received it, I read that it's from the glue bonding the glass layers, it improved over time but never had the correct colors, it always had a subtle yellow tint to it.
Why LG G2 ?
Just a quick glance at the competition and my previous experience with various brands made me choose the G2. The iPhone is really out of question due to the microscopic screen and lack of notification LED (it's incredible how a business user can live without a notification LED), the Galaxy S4 and HTC One have outdated hardware (I mean, if I pay the same price, why not get the latest hardware), the HTC One has a microscopic, unusable notification LED (and I don't wish you to need something from the HTC technical support !), the Galaxy Note 3 is really too big. I have never used a spare battery with any of my phones, and never used a microSD card, so these missing features are just not minuses for me. The lack of removable battery (and thus the inclusion of a bigger battery) is in fact a huge plus.
The Motorola MotoX has a very nice notification feature, but it pulsates too slow (indicating battery concerns) and the rest of the hardware is too average and I can't see it as an upgrade over the Nexus 4 (plus it's not available in Europe although I could get it if I really wanted to).
The LG G2 hardware
I will say that the excellent, biggest-in-class display, the impressive battery life and the very small bezels (phone fits in my front jeans pocket !), combined with the killer 'Knock On' feature make this phone an easy choice over any other phone right now, hardware-wise. Not to mention the newest Snapdragon 800 processor. I am even pleased by its camera capability, pictures always look very sharp because of the optical stabilization, although there is too much noise reduction and loss of detail (however resized for web/facebook, pictures look great). The fact that it has an FM radio is a huge plus for me, because I needed a radio to listen to my favorite talk show between the parking lot and my home, and it's proven to do its job great so far
The LG G2 software
Believe me when I say this, the stock Android is extremely boring compared to LGs software. It's so refreshing to see many user-needed features included in their software. I don't care for most of them, but they don't get in the way either. However, some of them are really useful and I never see Google implementing them in their stock Android. For example, I can now set different ringtone volumes for notifications and calls, I can access the phone files from my computer over my home network, I have a very customizable battery saver that kicks in when needed, etc.
There is only one thing that bothers my in LG G2's software: the notification drawer has some items that you can never remove from there, like the screen brightness, ringtone volume and a row with some shortcuts. It's not unbearable, but I prefer that to only be used for notifications. At least they could move their bloatware controls *after* all the notifications instead of before them.
Conclusion
I really like the LG G2. I think it trumps every other phone at this moment, but this is not the important thing. The important thing is that I don't have to charge my phone every day (it sometimes lasts 3+ days !), it has a great screen for web reading and browsing and it's just a well-designed phone.
Good review, vanilla android was a performance necessity when phones weren't power houses. I too enjoy the gadgetry of mfg skins. I still like stock android for my tablet, but for my primary device, I like the bells and whistles.
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Thnx for this review. I love my g2 more lol!
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Well i suppose the camera is better than just for facebook and instagram. Its a 13mp for god's sake!
Fille84 said:
Well i suppose the camera is better than just for facebook and instagram. Its a 13mp for god's sake!
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The megapixel count really doesn't matter, if you take a picture with an old 5 Megapixel Canon DSLR you will blow any smartphone out if the water. The pixel size / sensor size and lens quality does matter a lot.
The LG G2 camera is quite surprisingly good for a smartphone camera with a 1/3 inch sensor. The lens seems very good. But the resulting image is heavily post-processed to eliminate noise due to small pixel phtosites. Unfortunately fine detail is gone as well, but this is only visible on full-size images. Basically the camera software is optimized for instant picture sharing with little to no user post-processing, which is a correct thing to do in a smartphone.
I for one would prefer a noisier but more detailed image which I could post-process with a dedicated suite like Adobe's Lightroom. But I guess this is what big cameras are for...
Thanks for this review. I like it
Nexus 5 = Crap
This are the technical characteristics of the upcoming Nexuseless 5, I prefer LG G2 ever.
4.95″ 1080p display
32GB and 16GB internal storage
2GB RAM
MSM8974 aka Snapdragon 800 at 2.3GHz
8MP OIS rear camera
1.3MP front camera
2300mAh battery <<<<<<---- Why are they still using this crap battery!!?????
Sensors: Accelerometer, Gyroscope, Compass, Proximity/Ambient Light, Pressure
Slimport compatibility
Micro SIM slot
Notification light
Wireless charging
NFC
Bluetooth 4.0 (Bluetooth 3.0 was also listed, but this is most likely an error.)
UMTS/GSM/CDMA/LTE compatibility
More details of the Nexuseless 5 here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/173744848/LG-D821
I cant make my mind up about the LG g2 or the nexus 5 the nexus 5 looks nicer but the G2 has better specs.
G2 in my opinion looks so sexy and honestly that's one of the many reasons I bought it. Its different with the home button setup on the back and has the specs to last a long time for me. Also running stock and with 5 hour screen time I'm way over 24 hours of use
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blair287 said:
I cant make my mind up about the LG g2 or the nexus 5 the nexus 5 looks nicer but the G2 has better specs.
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Looks is Subjective, IMO Nexus 5 just has two advantages over G2, Price and Timely Updates. That is it.
My views are that personally the phone is just a little to big for me to use comfortably. I would have preferred say 5" screen with the narrow bezzels making the device slightly narrower and easier to hold - but thats just a personal preference. I would have also liked a textued back to the phone (at the moment i am using a skin to give it texture) as this phone is on the maximum edge of what is comfortable to me i dont want to add to the size with a case, i also dont want to lose the look ad feel i have from the device (the 'in the hand feel') you get.
All in all however these were not a deal breaker for me as there was nothing else out for me to consider at the time (like the moto x but not available in uk) so bought the g2 sim free.
After a couple of weeks of use i started to dislike elements of the lg software and its design and just found that adding a launcher just gave me other issues. What is great now is that the dev community is really picking up for this phone and roms are starting to appear so you now have the option to pretty much have whatever you want on your phone. You can go pretty much bare bones android without any of Lg's bloat but you an also add whatever elements of Lgs stuff you like to the vanilla rom so giving you the best of both worlds.
So to sum up.....for me the device has awesome specs, latest processor, excellent camera, amazing battery life, great development options to customize to your personal liking. Only thing for me is the size but maybe thats just because i have short stubby fingers
At the end of the day its all about choices, beauty is that now you have choices so if the hardware tickles your fancy you can customize till your hearts content and end up with your perfect device
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My views are that personally the phone is just a little to big for me to use comfortably. I would have preferred say 5" screen with the narrow bezzels making the device slightly narrower and easier to hold - but thats just a personal preference. I would have also liked a textued back to the phone (at the moment i am using a skin to give it texture) as this phone is on the maximum edge of what is comfortable to me i dont want to add to the size with a case, i also dont want to lose the look ad feel i have from the device (the 'in the hand feel') you get.
All in all however these were not a deal breaker for me as there was nothing else out for me to consider at the time (like the moto x but not available in uk) so bought the g2 sim free.
After a couple of weeks of use i started to dislike elements of the lg software and its design and just found that adding a launcher just gave me other issues. What is great now is that the dev community is really picking up for this phone and roms are starting to appear so you now have the option to pretty much have whatever you want on your phone. You can go pretty much bare bones android without any of Lg's bloat but you an also add whatever elements of Lgs stuff you like to the vanilla rom so giving you the best of both worlds.
So to sum up.....for me the device has awesome specs, latest processor, excellent camera, amazing battery life, great development options to customize to your personal liking. Only thing for me is the size but maybe thats just because i have short stubby fingers
At the end of the day its all about choices, beauty is that now you have choices so if the hardware tickles your fancy you can customize till your hearts content and end up with your perfect device
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what kind of issues did you encounter when adding a launcher? and what launcher?
I appreciate everyone's reviews here!
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what kind of issues did you encounter when adding a launcher? and what launcher?
I appreciate everyone's reviews here!
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You name it i tried it!
Nova, smart launcher, Aviate, Adw.....
To be fair to these launchers though they probably were not really issue's. Just little things that frustrated me about them, could have been the inability to do something or set something up with them, notifications, different custom options etc.
Most people would probably not even have experienced it or have issue with it.
The thing i was leading to really was the fact that now with a good dev community coming on board with this device (been quite overlooked generally in my opinion until now - availabilty in some countries may have been the reason for this though) that there are many choices for people now.
If the hardware of the device fits the bill then you are no longer tied with elements of the stock build you dont like and pretty much change every bit about it one way or another - just means taking that step of rooting and flashing. Dont get me wrong im no developer or expert in this field but as someone who is particularly fussy and difficult to please with phones and software etc (must be my ocd) everyone has options and its really not that difficult once you have done it a few times.
Bottom line is if someone dosent like the stock ui/experience you can change and have whatever you want
I know my comments above may seem obvious to many especially as we are on a developer site however a lot of people come to the site for opinions and information and who may have thought about making changes but never actually taking the final steps. I did and now i have changed the things that frustrated me without the need to just change the device again! Like i said i am major ocd and fussy about phones but it does at least give a little more longevity to the device if these options are here.
Hope this makes sense lol
ps - sorry didnt mean to hijack or step on the thread.
Thanks :good:
hpsauce37 said:
My views are that personally the phone is just a little to big for me to use comfortably. I would have preferred say 5" screen with the narrow bezzels making the device slightly narrower and easier to hold - but thats just a personal preference. I would have also liked a textued back to the phone (at the moment i am using a skin to give it texture) as this phone is on the maximum edge of what is comfortable to me i dont want to add to the size with a case, i also dont want to lose the look ad feel i have from the device (the 'in the hand feel') you get.
All in all however these were not a deal breaker for me as there was nothing else out for me to consider at the time (like the moto x but not available in uk) so bought the g2 sim free.
After a couple of weeks of use i started to dislike elements of the lg software and its design and just found that adding a launcher just gave me other issues. What is great now is that the dev community is really picking up for this phone and roms are starting to appear so you now have the option to pretty much have whatever you want on your phone. You can go pretty much bare bones android without any of Lg's bloat but you an also add whatever elements of Lgs stuff you like to the vanilla rom so giving you the best of both worlds.
So to sum up.....for me the device has awesome specs, latest processor, excellent camera, amazing battery life, great development options to customize to your personal liking. Only thing for me is the size but maybe thats just because i have short stubby fingers
At the end of the day its all about choices, beauty is that now you have choices so if the hardware tickles your fancy you can customize till your hearts content and end up with your perfect device
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The 5.2" G2 isn't that much bigger then the Galaxy Nexus 4.65". It is thinner but taller/wider by a few millimeters. Not much difference.
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[/COLOR]Awesome to see a "stock android fan" praise LG's UI..Great review from someone who obviously knows what the android experience should be....i have a vid on my channel on how you can keep the notifications down a few lines and stays were you leave it, all as long as you have a few notifications, you never need look at the top part.....some ppl do not realize this : )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaMdxvvZYFE
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Cst79 said:
Hi Guys,
Why LG G2 ?
Just a quick glance at the competition and my previous experience with various brands made me choose the G2. The iPhone is really out of question due to the microscopic screen and lack of notification LED (it's incredible how a business user can live without a notification LED), the Galaxy S4 and HTC One have outdated hardware (I mean, if I pay the same price, why not get the latest hardware), the HTC One has a microscopic, unusable notification LED (and I don't wish you to need something from the HTC technical support !), the Galaxy Note 3 is really too big. I have never used a spare battery with any of my phones, and never used a microSD card, so these missing features are just not minuses for me. The lack of removable battery (and thus the inclusion of a bigger battery) is in fact a huge plus.
The Motorola MotoX has a very nice notification feature, but it pulsates too slow (indicating battery concerns) and the rest of the hardware is too average and I can't see it as an upgrade over the Nexus 4 (plus it's not available in Europe although I could get it if I really wanted to).
Conclusion
I really like the LG G2. I think it trumps every other phone at this moment, but this is not the important thing. The important thing is that I don't have to charge my phone every day (it sometimes lasts 3+ days !), it has a great screen for web reading and browsing and it's just a well-designed phone.
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well said...
welcome to the club! (happy owners of G2)
I am having a hard time switching from iphone to the G2. Now I am no apple fan boy but I am finding myself confused. Any suggestions? Do I just need to get used to it?
I have laid out the Pro's and con's of each that I can think of. I am in the mobile business (enterprise sales) and make super heavy use of my phone so it's critical that it works for me.
G2 Pro's
Large Screen
Better Notifications
Swype Keyboard
Can do more with Android
Battery life is sick
G2 Con's
Some parts of UI are just plain choppy
Camera button next to home key, easy to hit
Screen brightness adjusting is terrible
Large Screen also a negative, need two hands now
Android apps get less love
Harder to hold in hand
Damn lock screen does not wake on notification
Sound is not the best. Meaning speaker
Lack of accessories
iPhone 5S Pro's
Apps get more love
Easy to hold in one hand
I like the device quality better. (ie aluminum)
Better selection of accessories
Better camera IMO
Just works. (droid is like computer, iphone like phone.)
iPhone 5S Con's
IOS7 is horrid. Inconsistent. I know what I am talking about. i'm a developer
Small screen
Lack of customization
Personally I have no issue holding in one hand the g2. It's ui for me is pretty smooth. The only thing I can't reach with one hand is the notification bar which you can get a button in the navigation bar. I can easily say I've played with plenty of iPhone and I am not very interested in them. For me screen size, battery life of this phone wins hands down.
Camera I don't use to much so can't say which I like better.
I've owned a lot of phones including most iPhones and I trade the iPhone's far quicker than android just because the battery life on my use maybe gets 4 hours.
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Apple Apps get more love? Not recently and that trend is really changing quite a bit. Developers are a shifting to more higher quality apps in favor of Android in the past year, apple has been in a slow decline in quality apps while android has excelled substantially. Check out this article recently published.
http://m.androidauthority.com/why-developers-choose-android-285774/
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Walter21026 said:
Apple Apps get more love? Not recently and that trend is really changing quite a bit. Developers are a shifting to more higher quality apps in favor of Android in the past year, apple has been in a slow decline in quality apps while android has excelled substantially. Check out this article recently published.
http://m.androidauthority.com/why-developers-choose-android-285774/
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This is true. 2 years ago I was full on Android and I can see they have made huge improvements. I suppose this case is minor because I only hit one app like this. It's a lap timer for running sports cars on a track. Neat app but Android version is not very good. Most small devs will focus on only one platform like in this case. I could always get a ipod touch instead for my track days.
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This is true. 2 years ago I was full on Android and I can see they have made huge improvements. I suppose this case is minor because I only hit one app like this. It's a lap timer for running sports cars on a track. Neat app but Android version is not very good. Most small devs will focus on only one platform like in this case. I could always get a ipod touch instead for my track days.
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You talking about Harry's? If so a full android app is in dev, there's a lite version without video right right now..
mgmgb said:
You talking about Harry's? If so a full android app is in dev, there's a lite version without video right right now..
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Yup! Harry's! Which begs the questions...whats your ride?
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Yup! Harry's! Which begs the questions...whats your ride?
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Ha not mine mate, a friend of mine has a track car and I sometimes go along for the ride and play with the video set-up. He has an old 3g mounted low down on the front bumper, a go-pro and his iphone 5 on the dash. It's a great app I agree.
I think that if you enjoy iOS more, get an iPhone. If you like Android more, stick with the G2.
The only issue I suffer from on your cons list is the brightness adjustment time. To each their own....
Lovecore said:
I think that if you enjoy iOS more, get an iPhone. If you like Android more, stick with the G2.
The only issue I suffer from on your cons list is the brightness adjustment time. To each their own....
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I really dislike IOS7. Stupid ass went and made it look dumb.
I came from an iPhone 4S (the 3GS before that). I was constantly jailbreaking it to get the functionality I wanted from it, some of which iOS just now implementing (SBSettings users know what I'm talking about). I've now owned the G2 for about a month and a half and not once had the urge to return to iPhone. 24-36 hours of battery life on regular usage - heavy gaming, e-mail/forum checking, reading Flipboard, streaming music/video. Reading books/news/txt/e-mail, watching video, and playing games on this beautiful screen has been a great experience.
As for most of your issues, I haven't experienced such problems. But, I'm sure you understand that customization, right out of the box, is one of Android's greatest strengths. There are ways to correct some of your issues, as you'll find if you hang around this forum for a while. Some solutions may involve easy minor tweaks. Some of them are actually found in the app store and no, root is not always needed.
You want your Android phone to wake-on-notification? There's an app for that - DynamicNotifications. Try doing that with Apple's app store. (Please correct me if I'm wrong about this on stock iOS) People making useful apps that change the phone's actual functions - that's real app love. Accessory support for this phone is increasing all the time (the Best Skins Ever matte/glossy just came out for the phone this week). What kind are you looking for? There's an entire forum here dedicated to that.
There's no need to return to a phone with a smaller (and lesser ppi/resolution) screen and lower battery life. Stay with the phone you really want, but make sure you see the G2's real potential first.
Lovecore said:
I think that if you enjoy iOS more, get an iPhone. If you like Android more, stick with the G2.
The only issue I suffer from on your cons list is the brightness adjustment time. To each their own....
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I've been using the Lux brightness app (free version) and it works great. It even has the ability to "learn" how you like your brightness settings in different light settings.
if the G2 screen size is a negative to you, then you should go back to the iphone. My mom has one and loves it, so does my 11 year old nephew.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...sapphire-blue?checkedId=oneOrTwoYearPrice6716
Here you go
If there's any doubt go back to what you know. You sound like customers that want to go from iphone and try a android for the first time. I tell them stick to what you know if you never been interested in android this whole time since your upgrade was avaliable then go with what you know works for you
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I don't like to discourage people from trying new platforms. Even if it's something new, and completely different from what you're used to.
With that said, if you are trying ANY new platform, especially one that is significantly different that what you are used to, you have to be prepared for mixed results and some frustration as you learn a new system.
Let's look at the reverse. I am a long time Android user. Every time I pick up an iPhone, I find myself annoyed by the things that I can't or the functions I can't figure out how to use or implement. I do eventually figure it out, either by finding where it is and how to do or use it, or by finding that it is not possible on an iPhone. Generally it is the latter. And that is why I have stayed on Android. There's a way to do just about anything, provided you're willing to learn how to do it. iPhone users likewise pick up my phone and if they are having a hard time figuring out how to do something, I can just show them the quick way to do it. Heck, if I can teach my mom to do everything on her S4, a developer like you can definitely figure this out. Just about everything you mentioned as cons is changable sans the screen size, and I think you'll grow to like the sharpness of it and all that real estate, and the accessories market, which indeed is not huge but there are plenty of good options.
If you go in expecting there not to be cons and a learning curve with a new and different platform, then no matter what it is you are going to be disappointed. Go in with an open mind and stick with it a while, learn how to use it and give it a real chance, and even if you decide you prefer your iPhones, I think you will come to appreciate just how powerful Android, and the G2 itself, are.
Once u go big u cant go back. Try to go back to iphone. U will come back.
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You're a developer....why not have both? Make apps for both platforms & have the best of both worlds? I use an iphone for work & have the G2 for personal. Done
You just need someone to show you what's up. Some hand over hand guidance. Are you a hot chick? I'll come over.
@op Ultimately it is your choice, we can only tell you our point of view. I have owned the G2 and 5s. Im actually getting another G2 tomorrow. It really depends on what is most important to you.
The 5s is a great phone, it works flawlessly. It just does. Its fast, fluid, web browsing speed is INSANE ( no phone loads web pages faster than it), excellent build quality, great choice of apps and all. When i bought the 5s at launch, it was because i wanted to get away from android a little because i use it so much that i just wanted to try something different and since IOS had an UI revamp i wanted to give it a shot. I love the iphone 5s, it does everything a phone should do very well. Excellent call quality, great speakers, great camera and all. But at the end of the day i just got bored, plain and simple. The customizability is just not there and im the kind of person that needs features. I knew that going in to the 5s but i thought that since the UI changed i could use it for a good 3 months or so....got rid of it after a week. And the major problem for me is that i just couldnt get use a 4 inch display, i cant. Battery life is not that great either.
The G2 is also a great device. Its a beautiful looking phone especially at the front with the super slim bezels and not buttons and the back with its unique button placement. It gives it a personality, it stands out. The size of the screen is PERFECT! I love it, its the absolute perfect size for a smartphone in my opinion. The phone is fast, super customizable even on stock. Arguably the most customizable phone out there and has plenty of features. Battery life? Superb! Camera with OIS as well. On the downside the back is glossy, very slippery and attracts finger prints like crazy. Also even though the phone is fast, it does suffer from occasional stutter here and there. But nothing cant be fixed. Nova launcher, AOSP roms, LG UI based roms all have an answer. So the device can and will definitely get better. Its a power house with plenty of power under the hood.
I think for you OP it comes down to IOS or android. Unfortunately we cant have it all at the same time so you gotta make a choice. If i had to make a choice to keep one of those 2 phones for 2 years i would certainly go for the G2. Both phones have pros and cons and its about compromise. I rather live with a 5.2 inch display with great battery life and lots of power to spare with development growing than be stuck on something that works pretty much flawlessly but little to no customization, a tiny display and so so battery life.
everything software related you listed can be done with an app. want the sms to wake the screen? get smsawake.
the launcher a bit choppy? yeah I had this problem too because the Verizon version of the launcher redraws more than any other carrier... so i said f it, I bought nova launcher years ago, so i put that on and got myself a custom icon pack called axis, and bam. a cooler, smoother customized ui. I've never had any choppiness anywhere except the launcher and now that's fixed.
don't like the audio? try one of many EQ apps. the problem here is the software has a really bad built in compressor and limitor combination that compresses everything and doesn't reproduce good sound from the speaker. I'm still looking for ways to disable this. however, you can try Viper to get a huge customizable EQ and whatnot.
for the phone being too big, well you'll get used to it. I remember when I had my og Inc and thought 4.3 inches on the rezound was huge.. and that the gs3 was GIGANTIC... and then the droid dna, and i said I'd never go bigger than 5 inches.. and now i have the g2 and it feels better than all of them.
point being, you'll get used to size.
attached is my setup with nova and axis icons. nova has never been smoother on any phone I own than it is on the g2. the animations aren't even this smooth on the gs4 running aosp... so i can't even blame it on touchwiz lol
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Let me start this off with these are just swine thoughts I have been thinking. I like the g2 (AT&T IS WHAT I HAVE). Big BATTERY, big screen, phone feels good in the hand, ect. I had previously been on the fence of the g2 and the n5. Seeing 4.4.1 was just dropped and from the n5 thread there are gobs and gobs of roms and kernels and mods. Coming from a gnex I knew the g2 didn't have the dev attention like nexus devices. I see lg roms that are modded, custom roms such as vanir, pacrom and such...I've only had the g2 less than 15 days and all in all I like it. I just miss the flashing and testing. My g2 is rooted,exposed w g2, camera mod, dpi dropped and such.
Am I just having withdrawals and I actually have a better phone than the n5? Probably..
My one question.. when 4.4 officially drops on the g2 would there be more devs (roms and kernels) that jump on the g2 or will it b somewhat scarce like it is now. Again I like the g2 but not sure I made the right decision.
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If you get a Nexus 5.....
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The Nexus 5 is a "Chumps" G2. its "half" the phone.
The G2 Development scene is on fire and will only get better and better.
My opinion, as someone who owns the G2 now (for the second time) and someone who's owned the N5 (and probably still would if it didn't have a mic issue that I returned it for)...
...if you like tinkering, ROMing, modding, and generally messing with your phone, then the N5 is the way to go. While I did return mine, I'll probably pick up another one at some point if only so I'll have an "unbrickable" phone to play around with.
My G2 is rooted as well and I'm running stock with Xposed and G2 Xposed installed, an ad blocker, and that's pretty much it. The G2 is the superior phone when it comes to battery life (by far) and the camera. The N5 is the superior phone if you like tinkering and you want a phone that's got tons of developer support.
I will say this...while I love both these phones, neither works as well FOR ME as my Moto X. I know, I know...why am I posting that here? I'm just giving my own personal account. I've loved my carrier edition 16gb Moto X so much that I decided to grab a 32gb MotoMaker X during the Cyber Monday (on Wednesday) deal. That's how good it is.
I'm sure at some point I'll sell the G2 and probably use the funds to grab another N5. While I don't like tinkering as much as I used to, I do still have that bug every once in a while, so having one around would be nice.
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If you get a Nexus 5.....
The Nexus 5 is a "Chumps" G2. its "half" the phone.
The G2 Development scene is on fire and will only get better and better.
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That is what I hope. I hope the scene will grow. Coming from I Toro gnex the dev scene wasn't as big as Maguro but you still had stuff to chose from. The battery is amazing. Playing games on the gnex with less than 50% I would usually need the charger plugged in as the battery would be hit pretty hard. With the g2 at 35 % I don't need the charger. Really my only gripe is all the white. White settings, sms, notifications. Is there an exposed or something where we can theme like theme chooser? I can always sell a year down the road. Just needed to see if I was being rash and unrealistic on the greatness of the n5.
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I'm actually trading my N5 for a G2 today lol. Better battery and camera and still aosp Roms like cm or slim
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KentuckyHouse said:
My opinion, as someone who owns the G2 now (for the second time) and someone who's owned the N5 (and probably still would if it didn't have a mic issue that I returned it for)...
...if you like tinkering, ROMing, modding, and generally messing with your phone, then the N5 is the way to go. While I did return mine, I'll probably pick up another one at some point if only so I'll have an "unbrickable" phone to play around with.
My G2 is rooted as well and I'm running stock with Xposed and G2 Xposed installed, an ad blocker, and that's pretty much it. The G2 is the superior phone when it comes to battery life (by far) and the camera. The N5 is the superior phone if you like tinkering and you want a phone that's got tons of developer support.
I will say this...while I love both these phones, neither works as well FOR ME as my Moto X. I know, I know...why am I posting that here? I'm just giving my own personal account. I've loved my carrier edition 16gb Moto X so much that I decided to grab a 32gb MotoMaker X during the Cyber Monday (on Wednesday) deal. That's how good it is.
I'm sure at some point I'll sell the G2 and probably use the funds to grab another N5. While I don't like tinkering as much as I used to, I do still have that bug every once in a while, so having one around would be nice.
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Do u mind elaborating on the moto x part please? on why u like it etc... I also have a g2. And got the moto code also. I really need to decide if I should get that phone. Please give ur input
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mike2518 said:
Do u mind elaborating on the moto x part please? on why u like it etc... I also have a g2. And got the moto code also. I really need to decide if I should get that phone. Please give ur input
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Sure, no problem.
I'll say up front it's hard to explain. I was one of those people that wasn't wowed by the Moto X when it was introduced, because of the seemingly "sub par" specs. How in the world could this phone compete with the other flagships that I'd had over the past couple of years (S2, S3, S4, Note 2, LGOG, G2, Nexus 5, iPhone 5S)? All I can say is, it does. At least for me.
It wasn't until I actually went to my closest AT&T store and put one in my hand that I fell head over heels for it. The in-the-hand feeling is like nothing I've experienced with any Android phone I've owned. It's solid, got a great weight to it, and feels very premium. But it also FLIES. No hint of stutter or lag at all.
Of course, it helps if you're a person that really likes a stock Android experience. If you like all the bells and whistles of TouchWiz or LG's skin or Sense, then stock Android might seem bland to you. But I love stock, and the Moto X is stock on steroids because of the few unique things Motorola threw in that you don't think you'll use until you actually own the phone. Active Display (notifications), Assist, Motorola Connect, and Touchless Controls make it an experience unlike any other phone. I was never one to talk to my phone, but Touchless Controls is something I use 10-20 times a day and it just keeps getting better since it's now hosted in the Play Store and doesn't need a full firmware upgrade to upgrade itself.
And Active Display (notifications) have RUINED every other phone for me. To be able to glance at your phone, not touch it, and know if you've got a notification is awesome. Sure, you can do the same thing with the LED light on the G2 or any of the Samsung phones, but it's not the same. Again, it's just something you have to experience in order to get it.
A couple of other things...the camera wasn't great at first, but that camera update fixed it unbelievably. It's SO much better now. It's not G2 or 5S great yet, but it's not far behind. Another thing I love in a great phone is the speaker. Not for music, but for when I'm in the car and don't have my headset, so I can talk hands free. The speaker on the Moto X is WAY better than the speaker on the G2 (which is soft and distorts badly when you turn it all the way up). The X speaker can get loud, but doesn't distort...ever.
I highly recommend the Moto X to everyone that asks. It's simply the best Android phone I've ever used and has me excited to see where Motorola goes from here. They're off to a great start under Google tutelage.
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Let me start this off with these are just swine thoughts I have been thinking. I like the g2 (AT&T IS WHAT I HAVE). Big BATTERY, big screen, phone feels good in the hand, ect. I had previously been on the fence of the g2 and the n5. Seeing 4.4.1 was just dropped and from the n5 thread there are gobs and gobs of roms and kernels and mods. Coming from a gnex I knew the g2 didn't have the dev attention like nexus devices. I see lg roms that are modded, custom roms such as vanir, pacrom and such...I've only had the g2 less than 15 days and all in all I like it. I just miss the flashing and testing. My g2 is rooted,exposed w g2, camera mod, dpi dropped and such.
Am I just having withdrawals and I actually have a better phone than the n5? Probably..
My one question.. when 4.4 officially drops on the g2 would there be more devs (roms and kernels) that jump on the g2 or will it b somewhat scarce like it is now. Again I like the g2 but not sure I made the right decision.
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Exactly what I was thinking
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Sure, no problem.
I'll say up front it's hard to explain. I was one of those people that wasn't wowed by the Moto X when it was introduced, because of the seemingly "sub par" specs. How in the world could this phone compete with the other flagships that I'd had over the past couple of years (S2, S3, S4, Note 2, LGOG, G2, Nexus 5, iPhone 5S)? All I can say is, it does. At least for me.
It wasn't until I actually went to my closest AT&T store and put one in my hand that I fell head over heels for it. The in-the-hand feeling is like nothing I've experienced with any Android phone I've owned. It's solid, got a great weight to it, and feels very premium. But it also FLIES. No hint of stutter or lag at all.
Of course, it helps if you're a person that really likes a stock Android experience. If you like all the bells and whistles of TouchWiz or LG's skin or Sense, then stock Android might seem bland to you. But I love stock, and the Moto X is stock on steroids because of the few unique things Motorola threw in that you don't think you'll use until you actually own the phone. Active Display (notifications), Assist, Motorola Connect, and Touchless Controls make it an experience unlike any other phone. I was never one to talk to my phone, but Touchless Controls is something I use 10-20 times a day and it just keeps getting better since it's now hosted in the Play Store and doesn't need a full firmware upgrade to upgrade itself.
And Active Display (notifications) have RUINED every other phone for me. To be able to glance at your phone, not touch it, and know if you've got a notification is awesome. Sure, you can do the same thing with the LED light on the G2 or any of the Samsung phones, but it's not the same. Again, it's just something you have to experience in order to get it.
A couple of other things...the camera wasn't great at first, but that camera update fixed it unbelievably. It's SO much better now. It's not G2 or 5S great yet, but it's not far behind. Another thing I love in a great phone is the speaker. Not for music, but for when I'm in the car and don't have my headset, so I can talk hands free. The speaker on the Moto X is WAY better than the speaker on the G2 (which is soft and distorts badly when you turn it all the way up). The X speaker can get loud, but doesn't distort...ever.
I highly recommend the Moto X to everyone that asks. It's simply the best Android phone I've ever used and has me excited to see where Motorola goes from here. They're off to a great start under Google tutelage.
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Wow, thx for the really informative perspective. I've got one thing I wanna ask you that really concerns me the most, it's about the display size and resolution. Having first used the note 2 for a year and adjusting really well to the g2's screen size, which I think is the perfect size balance, how does it feel to use the moto? Does the smaller screen size bother u or is it better in your opinion?
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Wow, thx for the really informative perspective. I've got one thing I wanna ask you that really concerns me the most, it's about the display size and resolution. Having first used the note 2 for a year and adjusting really well to the g2's screen size, which I think is the perfect size balance, how does it feel to use the moto? Does the smaller screen size bother u or is it better in your opinion?
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You're welcome. Glad I could help!
No doubt coming back down to the 4.7" screen on the X will take some time to adjust to, even from the G2. It took me a few days as the last phones I was using before getting my Moto X were the Note 2 and S4. But, the screen is actually very underrated, in my opinion. It gets pretty bright (I tend to keep mine set around 25% unless I'm in direct sunlight in which case I'll bump it up to 50-75% as needed). It's also got a lot warmer color than the G2 (because it's AMOLED compared to the LCD on the G2), but LG is known for it's very blue tint on it's screens. Brightness-wise, I prefer the AMOLED as I think it's easier on the eyes. I get a lot of eye strain from the very bright, very blue G2 screen. That's something I don't get on the X's screen.
Another thing about the screens...the viewing angles on the X are GREAT. You can nearly turn it sideways and still read the screen. The G2, in my opinion, is awful, maybe as bad as some of the Sony phones (which are known for their terrible viewing angles).
As far as the comparison between 720p on the X and 1080p on the G2, yes, there's a difference. But it's not THAT noticeable and the battery savings are worth it on a phone as one-hand friendly as the X. I realize the battery savings don't mean a lot when you're comparing it to the G2 since the G2 has that huge battery, but if you want something that's not huge yet still want amazing battery life, the X will do nicely.
One preference I have is I like the front of my phones to be black (or dark blue in the case of the S3). I've always thought white fronts on phones wash out the display, no matter how good it is. That's just a preference of mine, though.
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You're welcome. Glad I could help!
No doubt coming back down to the 4.7" screen on the X will take some time to adjust to, even from the G2. It took me a few days as the last phones I was using before getting my Moto X were the Note 2 and S4. But, the screen is actually very underrated, in my opinion. It gets pretty bright (I tend to keep mine set around 25% unless I'm in direct sunlight in which case I'll bump it up to 50-75% as needed). It's also got a lot warmer color than the G2 (because it's AMOLED compared to the LCD on the G2), but LG is known for it's very blue tint on it's screens. Brightness-wise, I prefer the AMOLED as I think it's easier on the eyes. I get a lot of eye strain from the very bright, very blue G2 screen. That's something I don't get on the X's screen.
Another thing about the screens...the viewing angles on the X are GREAT. You can nearly turn it sideways and still read the screen. The G2, in my opinion, is awful, maybe as bad as some of the Sony phones (which are known for their terrible viewing angles).
As far as the comparison between 720p on the X and 1080p on the G2, yes, there's a difference. But it's not THAT noticeable and the battery savings are worth it on a phone as one-hand friendly as the X. I realize the battery savings don't mean a lot when you're comparing it to the G2 since the G2 has that huge battery, but if you want something that's not huge yet still want amazing battery life, the X will do nicely.
One preference I have is I like the front of my phones to be black (or dark blue in the case of the S3). I've always thought white fronts on phones wash out the display, no matter how good it is. That's just a preference of mine, though.
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I am really tempted to try out the Moto X now! Thanks for your informative and personal review!
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I am really tempted to try out the Moto X now! Thanks for your informative and personal review!
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Again, you're welcome. I don't want to make it sound like I dislike the G2 at all. It's a fantastic device. But for me, the Moto X just works better. Obviously it's all subjective to each user, but you wanted an opinion...LOL. Sorry for being a bit long-winded!
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Again, you're welcome. I don't want to make it sound like I dislike the G2 at all. It's a fantastic device. But for me, the Moto X just works better. Obviously it's all subjective to each user, but you wanted an opinion...LOL. Sorry for being a bit long-winded!
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Yeah, sure it is subjective, but it is very interesting how specs on paper are seemingly becoming less and less important compared to real innovation, customization and originality. I am here thinking of the Touchless Control and Active display etc on the Moto X
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Again, you're welcome. I don't want to make it sound like I dislike the G2 at all. It's a fantastic device. But for me, the Moto X just works better. Obviously it's all subjective to each user, but you wanted an opinion...LOL. Sorry for being a bit long-winded!
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Thx again, makes me want to go out to a brick mortar like best buy and try playing with their display model before deciding what to do with that coupon deal. I've read and watched quite alot about the moto, but haven't had the chance to actually see one in person yet. I'll try to do that this weekend.
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mike2518 said:
Do u mind elaborating on the moto x part please? on why u like it etc... I also have a g2. And got the moto code also. I really need to decide if I should get that phone. Please give ur input
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If u decide not to buy the moto x, can you give me your code? I am buying my brother a moto x for Xmas and I couldn't get the code in time thanks
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Yeah, sure it is subjective, but it is very interesting how specs on paper are seemingly becoming less and less important compared to real innovation, customization and originality. I am here thinking of the Touchless Control and Active display etc on the Moto X
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We're definitely entering a good time in the mobile industry, one where specs don't matter nearly as much as optimization. It's what set the iPhone apart from other OS's for so long, but Apple had a distinct advantage because it controlled both software and hardware. Now Google/Motorola have each other, so they can start down that path to optimization (and I think the first very large step down that path is the Moto X). I'd all but written off Motorola phones after the Atrix HD that I'd had, but the X has me extremely excited to see what else is coming down the pipeline from Motorola/Google. :good:
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We're definitely entering a good time in the mobile industry, one where specs don't matter nearly as much as optimization. It's what set the iPhone apart from other OS's for so long, but Apple had a distinct advantage because it controlled both software and hardware. Now Google/Motorola have each other, so they can start down that path to optimization (and I think the first very large step down that path is the Moto X). I'd all but written off Motorola phones after the Atrix HD that I'd had, but the X has me extremely excited to see what else is coming down the pipeline from Motorola/Google. :good:
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Truth! Optimization is a very important factor in the user experience. I remember buying the iPhone 3GS back in the day instead of an Android phone purely because of the smoothness of the OS due to the great optimization
I'm going to add that although I thought the moto x looked amazing, I have previously owned the Motorola photon. When I first bought the phone I loved it, then Motorola stepped in and canceled all firmware updates for the phone, although they made a press release saying they would continue support which they later went back on. I'll never get a Motorola phone for this reason and this reason alone. How pathetic of a company.
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If u decide not to buy the moto x, can you give me your code? I am buying my brother a moto x for Xmas and I couldn't get the code in time thanks
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I'm not sure what I'll do yet, but in the mean time I see that eBay has a ton of these on sale for like a dollar. Check it out
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I had a N5 for a week then dropped it for the g2. If you want more roms than you can shake a stick at then the N5 is for you. If you want nice hardware, useable battery (imho N5 just isn't useable as a modern smartphone due to battery) then get G2. The screen and lack of bezel on the G2 is stunning. Id say the G2 is a grown up N5. Fyi, I had an N4 since November last year til the moment the N5 came out and after a few days decided that it was no upgrade.
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Hello all, I'm currently on the s7 edge and I've had it with this locked bootloader. This phone feels like an iPhone to me. You can't do anything with it but use it. The edge of the screen is troublesome when using the phone without a case.
Basically I want to know if the v10 is still worth getting? Or should I wait for something else? I'm on T-mobile.
I love huge screens(which is another issue I have with this phone)
Don't care for camera
Don't care about gaming speed. That's what my DS and other handhelds are for.
Don't care about battery life if it's replaceable.
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Hello all, I'm currently on the s7 edge and I've had it with this locked bootloader. This phone feels like an iPhone to me. You can't do anything with it but use it. The edge of the screen is troublesome when using the phone without a case.
Basically I want to know if the v10 is still worth getting? Or should I wait for something else? I'm on T-mobile.
I love huge screens(which is another issue I have with this phone)
Don't care for camera
Don't care about gaming speed. That's what my DS and other handhelds are for.
Don't care about battery life if it's replaceable.
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It's a great phone and is now easily rootable on both Lollipop or Marshmallow (depending on which it ships with). Custom TWRP recovery exists and that's helpful when flashing updates. There's a very solid stock ROM with various debloat, dedeox, etc variations to try from. Also a couple non stock ROMs like CM13 and Resurrection Remix that are WIP that are pretty close (working camera being the big gating item).
On the con side it's not the latest and greatest and the G5 of HTC 10 has better performance (at least in tests like Antutu). Also i wish there were more devs actively working on this phone....seems like its really only a couple folks and if they get bored and move on...
Anyway, that's my two cents. Hope it helps. Come join the fun.
A great device, had mine for less than two months now and for the current price it is hard to beat
This beat out the nexus 6p for me due to the removable battery and expandable storage
The second screen is a bit gimicky still, I can't find a reason to use it much other than for always on notifications
The two front facing cameras... well the could have stuck with just the wide angle and I would be happy. But rear shooter is still hard to beat by anything
Build quality is solid, screen is great, battery ain't so good but the fastest charger to date can't beat a battery swap
Other forums may have more development but this one is moving along nicely and with the smaller size feels closer (my big name phones always had way too many people to keep track)
I plan on holding on to it for two years, can't see a good reason not to.
Hope to see you around the forum!
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Yeah, what these guys said. I just got my V10 this month so only a couple weeks with it but I'm quite happy. Has all the features I require: swappable battery, SD card support, good camera with OIS, and fingerprint support. I love big screens and this certainly has it plus the second screen I find moderately useful though not a requirement. It's also built like a tank which is nice (but heavy). I don't see anything in the market that competes with the V10 if you have the same requirements as I do. I think the only thing that might get me jealous in 2016 is a V11. This one will likely last me several years, I think.