I am about to add another line on my "share everything" family plan. I am in need of Internet at my home, and would like to buy a 350$ line and do a assumption of liability account transfer. Problem is I am on a share everything and one line doesn't go out until 2015 (The line I'd like to put unlimited data on) So my question is. How would I go about adding another line and getting unlimited Internet on my s4? While only paying 2 lines.
Galaxy s4 - ends 2015
Galaxy S3 - contract ended can cancel anytime
New line unlimited data.
Any help would be nice, don't want to pay $400 for Internet setting a line up and Verizon find a way to rip it away of me. **I am trying not to let my s3 get the unlimited line** Could I also keep my same numbers? I am new about how all this works. And do you think it's a good investment? Or do you think verizon will rip the plan away from me in a few months either way for all grandfather users?
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I am about to add another line on my "share everything" family plan. I am in need of Internet at my home, and would like to buy a 350$ line and do a assumption of liability account transfer. Problem is I am on a share everything and one line doesn't go out until 2015 (The line I'd like to put unlimited data on) So my question is. How would I go about adding another line and getting unlimited Internet on my s4? While only paying 2 lines.
Galaxy s4 - ends 2015
Galaxy S3 - contract ended can cancel anytime
New line unlimited data.
Any help would be nice, don't want to pay $400 for Internet setting a line up and Verizon find a way to rip it away of me. **I am trying not to let my s3 get the unlimited line** Could I also keep my same numbers? I am new about how all this works. And do you think it's a good investment? Or do you think verizon will rip the plan away from me in a few months either way for all grandfather users?
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If you have an existing line with unlimited data, you'll want to go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2367734 - "How to upgrade without losing unlimited data".
If you don't, I don't think VZ is selling unlimited data plans any longer.
I am buying the unlimited line off ebay. Which would mean I wouldn't need a line and would get rid of my on where contracts up. How would I go about setting these 2 lines up where
1 has unlimited
No more share everything family plan
Keep numbers
And s4 Getz the unlimited plan (which its current one will not go out until 2015) example could I switch my s4 and s3 lines so my s4 is off contract and switch it with the newly unlimited plan putting my s3 on contract again till 2015? Get numbers changed back and somehow get off share everything and keep unlimited data line I purchased for my s4?
DemonSoul1996 said:
I am buying the unlimited line off ebay. Which would mean I wouldn't need a line and would get rid of my on where contracts up. How would I go about setting these 2 lines up where
1 has unlimited
No more share everything family plan
Keep numbers
And s4 Getz the unlimited plan (which its current one will not go out until 2015) example could I switch my s4 and s3 lines so my s4 is off contract and switch it with the newly unlimited plan putting my s3 on contract again till 2015? Get numbers changed back and somehow get off share everything and keep unlimited data line I purchased for my s4?
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I suggest you read the thread that I pointed you to. It tells you how people have kept their existing unlimited service and transferred it to a new S4. I've not done this, so can't give you the real-world experience that you'll get from that thread. (And buying an unlimited line on eBay? I don't think so - if you buy a phone off of eBay that has unlimited service currently, you'll need to re-apply for service and won't get unlimited AFAIK.)
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I suggest you read the thread that I pointed you to. It tells you how people have kept their existing unlimited service and transferred it to a new S4. I've not done this, so can't give you the real-world experience that you'll get from that thread. (And buying an unlimited line on eBay? I don't think so - if you buy a phone off of eBay that has unlimited service currently, you'll need to re-apply for service and won't get unlimited AFAIK.)
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It is assumption of liability where I take access over another customers plan who originally had unlimited data. I'll read through the thread again see if I can find anything useful, seems like I'm going to have to go up to verizon to make sure they don't mess anything up and I won't waste $400 :/ Basically I need home internet and I'd rather pay 30 for Verizon each month since I get little over 45 mbp/s in my location.
If I am understanding correctly your wanting to merge the unlimited plan/line your getting on eBay with your share everything plan you currently have right?
I don't you can do that, you ate going to need to leave them separate.
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jazzyjames said:
If I am understanding correctly your wanting to merge the unlimited plan/line your getting on eBay with your share everything plan you currently have right?
I don't you can do that, you ate going to need to leave them separate.
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Not 100% correct I want a nationwide plan and off share everything then accept the new link to avoid losing unlimited data. Just don't know the steps I'll go about doing it to get everything set up where my s4 which contracts not ended somehow get on the unlimited line and my s3 take over my s4 contract (if it's even possible) I'll probably end up paying contract early termination fee then getting the lines switched how I want them
I would double check.. I could be wrong I believe Amazon makes you keep it on line for 181 days.. Maybe I'm mistaken with another one.. I'm on the go now so further research is needed for sure..
is this true? If I upgrade my dumb line to the note 3 and then activate it, then after activation switch the note 3 to my unlimited line and dump the data plan on the dumb line, will amazon make me pay or no?
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so I see Amazon's offering this phone for $229.99 as an upgrade($199.99 if you are new)...
I am wondering though, if we do the $229.99 deal, is it possible to keep current plan or are we forced to choose one of the new tiered data packages?
Have to ask VZW to make sure you don't lose unlimited.
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No sir
voxigenboy said:
so I see Amazon's offering this phone for $229.99 as an upgrade($199.99 if you are new)...
I am wondering though, if we do the $229.99 deal, is it possible to keep current plan or are we forced to choose one of the new tiered data packages?
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From my understanding VZW does not currently force grandfathered customers with the unlimited plan to change when they upgrade to a new device. I've verified this with VZW Customer Service last month. This doesn't mean it will always be this way so I would take advantage somewhat soon before they close the loophole.
Maybe Jayochs or another member can chime in to verify.
heh.. I figured it out. it first asks you to pick your minute plan, then your data plan. I wasn't getting past the minute page because my minute plan is not listed(I have 200 minutes for $29/month)... but once you get to the data page, you can just check off the tab that specifies you want to use your exsisting unlimited.
considering id be saving $70 off of Verizon's price I could just select the 450 minute - $39 plan & then call Verizon afterwards to get it changed back.
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From my understanding VZW does not currently force grandfathered customers with the unlimited plan to change when they upgrade to a new device.
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I have not jumped onto this ship yet. That said, VZW rep swore to me less than a week ago that if we have unlimited 3G then we will have unlimited 4G. She said there was nothing to note in the record; it was simply the way it is.
If you have unlimited data now, you will continue to have unlimited data. Makes no difference if you have a 3G or 4G phone.
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Just a heads up guys, the penny price works even for adding a line.
Yea, but not upgrade price, which is what most people are doing. $229 to upgrade for those of you that have been waiting! http://wireless.amazon.com/dp/B0061...f_rd_i=G001&pf_rd_p=1332536882&pf_rd_s=left-5
Yeah, but if you're already on a family account, it's a cheap way to get a new phone. $10/month ($240) + $.01 + Cheap dumbphone (to cancel data). and you still come out way less than $299 and especially $649
Just switched back to Verizon and picked two of these up from Amazon for a penny each!! Sprint let me out of my contract because their service is abysmal. They'll be here in 2 days!!! Can't wait!!!!
only for new accounts?... that sucks. I was ready to return this & then order from amazon. oh well.
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only for new accounts?... that sucks. I was ready to return this & then order from amazon. oh well.
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I added a line to get mine from verizon, did the same thing on amazon today and will be taking mine back to VZW as soon as it gets here
I am not trying to have a bunch of lines, I already have 4 and only use 3, lol. Luckily since I have a Military/Veteran account I can call and suspend a line for as long as I damn well please for free. But, I would rather pay the $10/month until it goes away, or my girlfriend finally decides to ditch Metro PCS and her Huwaei wannabe smartphone.
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I am not trying to have a bunch of lines, I already have 4 and only use 3, lol. Luckily since I have a Military/Veteran account I can call and suspend a line for as long as I damn well please for free. But, I would rather pay the $10/month until it goes away, or my girlfriend finally decides to ditch Metro PCS and her Huwaei wannabe smartphone.
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Haha, no kidding. Yeah, 10 bucks a month isn't that bad. No point in suspending it.
how does that work with adding a line anyway?
i see the option on amazon labelled "Add a line - to my family account" yet i just have the 1 line right now... so i don't believe it's considered a 'family' thing.
voxigenboy said:
how does that work with adding a line anyway?
i see the option on amazon labelled "Add a line - to my family account" yet i just have the 1 line right now... so i don't believe it's considered a 'family' thing.
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I believe once you add a line to an individual account, you will need to choose from a Family Share plan. You might want to be careful with doing so in case you have been grandfathered in with Unlimited Data though.
I have three lines right now on a family plan with my GF and the third I use as a "home" phone. Thinking about adding another to get a Rezound now.
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I believe once you add a line to an individual account, you will need to choose from a Family Share plan. You might want to be careful with doing so in case you have been grandfathered in with Unlimited Data though.
I have three lines right now on a family plan with my GF and the third I use as a "home" phone. Thinking about adding another to get a Rezound now.
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hmm.. i would worry about the unlimited data(only reason i switched to verizon).
was thinking about canning my t-mobile account & switching over... although on t-mobile i still have that '5 favs' thing + unlimited internet & pay $44/month on it... so unless i could get a better value on verizon then maybe i should just keep it.
Marcismo55 said:
I believe once you add a line to an individual account, you will need to choose from a Family Share plan. You might want to be careful with doing so in case you have been grandfathered in with Unlimited Data though.
I have three lines right now on a family plan with my GF and the third I use as a "home" phone. Thinking about adding another to get a Rezound now.
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I don't see why his voice plan would mess with his data at all. It didn't affect mine.
If you have a family share plan you get 10 favorite people you share. My mom, my brother and I use a combined ~750 minutes/month. I barely make phone calls unless they are for school/work/etc.
meh, i paid $267 on release day fo rthis phone, and i'm not even having any buyers remorse that's making me want to go return it and try to get it online for a penny lol
If you add a new line don't you still need to add a data plan?
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I don't see why his voice plan would mess with his data at all. It didn't affect mine.
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I'm not saying it would, but if he/she currently does have unlimited data they may want to verify they would not lose unlimited. It is a possibility changing a Voice Plan could alter that and I would think it could be different than just upgrading a phone and maintaining your same plan (even with an additional line).
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If you have a family share plan you get 10 favorite people you share. My mom, my brother and I use a combined ~750 minutes/month. I barely make phone calls unless they are for school/work/etc.
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Tell me about it...I got hooked up with this Promo plan VZW offered earlier this year and I have 1400 mins when we only use 400. It's nice to have more than you need!
Dsoto87 said:
If you add a new line don't you still need to add a data plan?
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Yeah but If you have multiple lines there might be some moves you can make to get things sorted.
Dsoto87 said:
If you add a new line don't you still need to add a data plan?
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Yes, but you can later move that new line to a dumbphone and cancel data no problem.
Sorry for all the questions but i've never done this before. If I opened a new line, how would it affect my current line that it would be moved to, which is an unlimited 3g plan?
Dsoto87 said:
Sorry for all the questions but i've never done this before. If I opened a new line, how would it affect my current line that it would be moved to, which is an unlimited 3g plan?
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You would have to change whatever voice plan you have to a family plan.
Your data feature would stay as it is attached to your current line.
The new line would be a new number with a $9.99 monthly fee + whatever features you attach to that line ($30 data for example).
Oh ok. I already have a family plan. Basically I'd like to know if I'll be grandfathered into an unlimited 4g plan or will I have to choose a tiered one.
Do you think the Galaxy Note 2 is worth giving up unlimited data? I can only imagine how much data I would be using with this phone. I could imagine being limited. I couldn't see myself paying ful price to keep unlimited data going. Sprint nor Tmobile have LTE in my area.
Has anyone found a way around being pushed into the upgrade? I also found it obnoxious that they are charging a $30 upgrade fee and giving me a $50 upgrade discount at the same time lol.
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Do you think the Galaxy Note 2 is worth giving up unlimited data? I can only imagine how much data I would be using with this phone. I could imagine being limited. I couldn't see myself paying ful price to keep unlimited data going. Sprint nor Tmobile have LTE in my area.
Has anyone found a way around being pushed into the upgrade? I also found it obnoxious that they are charging a $30 upgrade fee and giving me a $50 upgrade discount at the same time lol.
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Nothing is worth giving up unlimited data.
4g tethering / internet practically anywhere there is 4g... I would never give that up for anything. I use around 7-10gb of data on the average.
I will be giving up unlimited data this go around. After getting laid off of my job of 6 years I had to take a lower paying gig and the only way I could talk my wife into the Note 2 was if we combine our plans. I have never used more than 8 gb in a month and she uses 1 gb. We will either go with the 8 gb shared and save $30 a month by combining or maybe the 10gb plan. Its a small price to pay for me to upgrade from my X to the N2. It is what it is, I will make it work even though it does suck.
I'm likely buying the phone outright and keeping the unlimited data. Even my wife doesn't want me to give up the unlimited data.
That's cool. With 2 mortgages and 2 kids I couldn't justify 1400 for 2 phone's when we can get both for 700 and save 30 a month by combining. I hope all of you guys can keep unlimited, in 2 years ill see where the carriers are with respect to unlimited and move to another carrier if my 10gb plan isn't working for me. Honestly I doubt we will be having this conversation about unlimited on Verizon in 2 years. My guess is Verizon will decide in the near future to end it completely.
I wish there was a way to keep the plan. It's crazy they try to force you off.
My replacement Fascinate is defective with the constant reboots and overheating while charging. I was going to replace under warranty but I dropped it and the screen cracked which they have already tried to blame that for the problems. Assurion wants 99 bucks for a replacement. They keep telling me that my data usage is low. Yeah, my phone dies in 4 hours and crashes most when I use my web browsers.
Prior to that I was using 3-6 gigs a month. LTE + 2gb a month is like getting a Lambo to drive only in a parking garage.
Since I live at a University, I have to share with everyone else. I am averaging about 16GB a month so I have to keep the unlimited plan.
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Yup. 16 gb would cost you 170 (40 + 130 for data) a month on the new plan.
Wouldn't it be illegal for them to "force" you to change data plans later when people continue to buy phones outright.
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Wouldn't it be illegal for them to "force" you to change data plans later when people continue to buy phones outright.
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Yes but thhey can terminate you after you contract expires
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I just got back from VZW Corporate store.
I have 4 lines on a family account, i'm the owner of the entire account - I have TWO upgrades on my account and there's literally no way to be able to keep the unlimited data if the upgrade is on the line that has unlimited. It only works if you use a tiered line's upgrade for your unlimited line.
I know this might seem hard to follow but in short:
Unlimited Line has upgrade = wasted, nothing you can do with it
Tiered line has upgrade = useful for unlimited line
I don't find really any phone being with $600 to $700 after tax. That's just plain robbery. I've been doing it on my past 2 phones and now that I have upgrades actually available, i'm plainly fed up. I threaten to close my account with VZW but they would LOVE for that to happen because they don't want unlimited plan folks on their network anymore.
Now it's a game to test my wits.. How long can I go with my SG3 before going insane? I have to wait another year for one of my tiered lines to have an upgrade available.
Diversion said:
I just got back from VZW Corporate store.
I have 4 lines on a family account, i'm the owner of the entire account - I have TWO upgrades on my account and there's literally no way to be able to keep the unlimited data if the upgrade is on the line that has unlimited. It only works if you use a tiered line's upgrade for your unlimited line.
I know this might seem hard to follow but in short:
Unlimited Line has upgrade = wasted, nothing you can do with it
Tiered line has upgrade = useful for unlimited line
I don't find really any phone being with $600 to $700 after tax. That's just plain robbery. I've been doing it on my past 2 phones and now that I have upgrades actually available, i'm plainly fed up. I threaten to close my account with VZW but they would LOVE for that to happen because they don't want unlimited plan folks on their network anymore.
Now it's a game to test my wits.. How long can I go with my SG3 before going insane? I have to wait another year for one of my tiered lines to have an upgrade available.
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So why don't you use the tiered line upgrade and then switch the note to your line? I'm not really following this since you said two upgrades are available one on the tiered line and one on the unlimited.
Speaking of lines and unlimited. Our plan states that both are smartphones share the unlimited data. I keep hearing people talking about no unlimited data on certain lines??
I did preorder Note2 full price so we could keep unlimited and we were not eligible anyway as my line isn't up till Feb.
I can't imagine not having unlimited with the Note2, because its so powerful and with large screen, plan to use Netflix and music a lot!!
I'll be buying outright simple because they tacked on a $30 upgrade fee when I tried to preorder...Yea I know it makes no sense but its a principle thing now...haha
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I'll be buying outright simple because they tacked on a $30 upgrade fee when I tried to preorder...Yea I know it makes no sense but its a principle thing now...haha
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If you purchase the phone outright, say from Verizon or Amazon Wireless, and pop in your working SIM, you don't have to pay the upgrade fee?
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If you purchase the phone outright, say from Verizon or Amazon Wireless, and pop in your working SIM, you don't have to pay the upgrade fee?
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Nope, I bought my DNA yesterday with no upgrade fee when I paid full retail. I also had no fee when buying my GS3 or MAXX HD.
Diversion said:
I just got back from VZW Corporate store.
I have 4 lines on a family account, i'm the owner of the entire account - I have TWO upgrades on my account and there's literally no way to be able to keep the unlimited data if the upgrade is on the line that has unlimited. It only works if you use a tiered line's upgrade for your unlimited line.
I know this might seem hard to follow but in short:
Unlimited Line has upgrade = wasted, nothing you can do with it
Tiered line has upgrade = useful for unlimited line
I don't find really any phone being with $600 to $700 after tax. That's just plain robbery. I've been doing it on my past 2 phones and now that I have upgrades actually available, i'm plainly fed up. I threaten to close my account with VZW but they would LOVE for that to happen because they don't want unlimited plan folks on their network anymore.
Now it's a game to test my wits.. How long can I go with my SG3 before going insane? I have to wait another year for one of my tiered lines to have an upgrade available.
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I have an unlimited data line and I was due for the upgrade, I moved the upgrade to my dads 4gb tiered line and pre ordered on his line and everything appears to be just fine.. I wonder what the difference was? Did you try and go online and do this? I am not second guessing you, I just dont know what the difference is between our situations..
drum747 said:
I will be giving up unlimited data this go around. After getting laid off of my job of 6 years I had to take a lower paying gig and the only way I could talk my wife into the Note 2 was if we combine our plans. I have never used more than 8 gb in a month and she uses 1 gb. We will either go with the 8 gb shared and save $30 a month by combining or maybe the 10gb plan. Its a small price to pay for me to upgrade from my X to the N2. It is what it is, I will make it work even though it does suck.
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Have you considered dropping carrier texting and lowering minutes to 450 while keeping unlimited data and using Google Voice and Groove IP for unlimited calls and unlimited SMS over data? You can also look into applying a corporate discount on your plan. As far as the Note II you're bound to find a good deal on Craigslist.
Yeah I'm buying it at full retail just to keep unlimited. This will also be my last phone with Verizon. Moving to prepaid T-mobile after this one, hopefully they have real 4G by then
I've got a 5th line with a 3g dumb phone on Family Share Unlimited plan. Upgrading that to the Note 2 for 2year contract discount. Killing that in 24 hrs and transferring N2 to me/current Gnex and putting dumb phone back on 5th line. Keep unlimited data
Hello all, this might not be the right place to post this but I was looking for some help/advice.
I currently have unlimited data and an upgrade available. My wife's line is already on a 2GB plan.
I transferred my upgrade to her line and bought the S4 with her line, should be here tomorrow.
My question is, do I have to activate it on her phone first? Or can I simply just activate it on my line? I have been looking around the interwebs but have not been able to find a clear answer.
Some people say it takes 24hrs before I can transfer it to my line. Can I just activate it on her line and then go into a Verizon store to get a new SIM and swap it to my line? Or can I do it online? Sorry for the redundant questions and I appreciate any help!
Yes, if the contract on your line is extended. You will lose the unlimited data regardless of who you activate on first. The way it works is to use her upgrade and do an ESN change after.
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I did this exact thing. Upgraded my mom's line which has a dumb phone. Activated it on her line, waited 5 minutes, turned it off and then went on the website and switched it over to me. Had to call Verizon to turn her original phone back on because it was still showing order pending on her line but the woman just entered the MEID and I foamedialed *228 and everything was good. So far nothing has changed, I still have unlimited but my mom's line is now extended for 2 years
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dansan382 said:
I did this exact thing. Upgraded my mom's line which has a dumb phone. Activated it on her line, waited 5 minutes, turned it off and then went on the website and switched it over to me. Had to call Verizon to turn her original phone back on because it was still showing order pending on her line but the woman just entered the MEID and I foamedialed *228 and everything was good. So far nothing has changed, I still have unlimited but my mom's line is now extended for 2 years
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I didn't even realize I had unlimited data on my 2.5 year old Droid X until I went to order the S4 a couple of days ago! I went ahead and upgraded my line, thinking my data usage is so limited anyway (because I thought I was limited) and I would be able to manage with the 2 GB they give us. Thinking it over and trying to find a loophole, I can across the method you just described.
I quickly cancelled my upgrade and upgraded my moms dumb phone to a S4 and am waiting for it to do exactly what you did. I was expecting to have to go into the store, but you were able to do everything from your home? And will it matter that I am moving over from a 3G device to 4G? Thanks!
Just to update:
I transfered the elegible upgrade from the Unlimited line to the line with 2GB plan and ordered the phone.
Once it arrieved, I activated it on the 2GB line as per the upgrade. I then replaced the S4 with the S3 that was previously on the line and transfered the S4 to my line, the one with unlimited data.
I am now on the S4 with Unlimited Data! My contract was extended for two years too. So, this does still work.
Thank you
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I transfered the elegible upgrade from the Unlimited line to the line with 2GB plan
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What, exactly does this mean? The line with the 2GB plan was not eligible for an upgrade, because that line was already under contract, but you were able to upgrade the phone on that line by extending the contract on your Unlimited line, without losing Unlimited?
If so, then what would stop me from buying a dumbphone and activating it on a new 2nd line, so I have no contract on that line. Then, use the upgrade from my Unlimited line to get an S4 for the second line - thus, extending the contract on my Unlimited line, keeping Unlimited, and having an S4 on the second line with no contract. Then, swap the S4 to my Unlimited line and then cancel the second line with no ETF or other penalty?
I'm thinking about doing this with my brother's 2GB upgrade. So just to reiterate. I order the phone on his line. He activates it with his new SIM card, has my old Rezound right now. After he activates the new , can I just swap my SIM from my old s3 into the new s4 or do I have to go through the switch device on my Verizon?
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I'm thinking about doing this with my brother's 2GB upgrade. So just to reiterate. I order the phone on his line. He activates it with his new SIM card, has my old Rezound right now. After he activates the new , can I just swap my SIM from my old s3 into the new s4 or do I have to go through the switch device on my Verizon?
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You're not talking about the same thing. You're talking about using his upgrade (a 2GB line that is eligible) to upgrade his line. Then do an ESN swap (can't just swap SIMs, I don't think) online to switch him back to his Rezound. Then do another ESN swap to change your line from whatever phone you're using to the S4. That is no problem.
This thread is about transferring an upgrade from an Unlimited line to a 2GB line and using it without losing the Unlimited.
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What, exactly does this mean? The line with the 2GB plan was not eligible for an upgrade, because that line was already under contract, but you were able to upgrade the phone on that line by extending the contract on your Unlimited line, without losing Unlimited?
If so, then what would stop me from buying a dumbphone and activating it on a new 2nd line, so I have no contract on that line. Then, use the upgrade from my Unlimited line to get an S4 for the second line - thus, extending the contract on my Unlimited line, keeping Unlimited, and having an S4 on the second line with no contract. Then, swap the S4 to my Unlimited line and then cancel the second line with no ETF or other penalty?
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Yes, I transfered the upgrade from My unlimited line, Upgrade was 5-11-13, to the 2GB line which was doesnt have an upgrade until 9-10-14. My unlimited line is now under contract till 5-20-15 with the S4 and unlimited data. The 2GB line still has upgrade on 9-10-14.
I have no idea about your question. I am sure they would not allow that. But, I dont know what the difference is.
Hopefully this helps. If not I am sorry. Maybe I just got lucky?
Thanks for posting the additional info, Churchryn. I would say you have definitely discovered a loophole in the system. And now I'm going to attempt to exploit it myself!
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Thanks for posting the additional info, Churchryn. I would say you have definitely discovered a loophole in the system. And now I'm going to attempt to exploit it myself!
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I plan on doing the same, let us know how it goes
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You're not talking about the same thing. You're talking about using his upgrade (a 2GB line that is eligible) to upgrade his line. Then do an ESN swap (can't just swap SIMs, I don't think) online to switch him back to his Rezound. Then do another ESN swap to change your line from whatever phone you're using to the S4. That is no problem.
This thread is about transferring an upgrade from an Unlimited line to a 2GB line and using it without losing the Unlimited.
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You will have to go into a Verizon Wireless store to reactivate the Rezound because once you deactivate a SIM card, it is deactivated forever! At least this was the case for me with phone swapping a Rezound and Galaxy S4.
stuartv said:
If so, then what would stop me from buying a dumbphone and activating it on a new 2nd line, so I have no contract on that line. Then, use the upgrade from my Unlimited line to get an S4 for the second line - thus, extending the contract on my Unlimited line, keeping Unlimited, and having an S4 on the second line with no contract. Then, swap the S4 to my Unlimited line and then cancel the second line with no ETF or other penalty?
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This works, up to the point of cancelling the second line. You can add a second line with a dumbphone, upgrade it, switch it to your line and then remove data from the second line. But you have to keep that second line open for the contract at the $10 a month or whatever it is.
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tdowrie said:
You will have to go into a Verizon Wireless store to reactivate the Rezound because once you deactivate a SIM card, it is deactivated forever! At least this was the case for me with phone swapping a Rezound and Galaxy S4.
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You can use the new SIM that came with the S4 to run the rezound. However, Rezound uses full size SIM and S3/4 use microSIM. So you would need to purchase a cheap adapter to use the new microSIM in the full size SIM slot. Then you use your S3 SIM in the new S4. ESN swap is only needed for non-4G phones.
Churchryn said:
Yes, I transfered the upgrade from My unlimited line, Upgrade was 5-11-13, to the 2GB line which was doesnt have an upgrade until 9-10-14. My unlimited line is now under contract till 5-20-15 with the S4 and unlimited data. The 2GB line still has upgrade on 9-10-14.
I have no idea about your question. I am sure they would not allow that. But, I dont know what the difference is.
Hopefully this helps. If not I am sorry. Maybe I just got lucky?
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I'm fairly certain you gamed the system. I've been told and have gone through numerous upgrade transfers where if the upgrade was originating from the unlimited data line, no matter where it goes or what happens, the unlimited data line will lose unlimited data. Either upgrading it or transferring the upgrade, it will go away. If this didn't happen to you, I suspect someone either helped you out in a certain way, or just simply made a mistake.
My point would be, I wouldn't rely on this system to be 100% correct all the time. Upgrading and trying to get around loopholes is very hit and miss depending on who you talk to and which store you go to.
It is entirely possible that my occurance was a happy accident. But, I am still glad that this happened. I have been checking regularly to ensure that my account is still unlimited. I did do it all online with no interaction from the store, maybe the automated process makes it a little easier?
Anyway, I am really liking the S4. Rooted with TWRP waiting for ROMs.
I hope this helps anyone looking to to the same thing.
I too upgraded my sister in laws dumbphone to a s4. Activated it under her, immediately swapped sim cards to mine. Called to have her simless phone be put back in service and cancel data. It took about 10 minutes to rob her upgrade
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It appears that I am screwed. I'm on an Individual plan and I don't seem to be able to even add a second line at all without converting my existing line to a Family Share plan and losing my Unlimited.
Just did this on the 23rd:
Wife and I had 1400 minute shared family plan with unlimited data each, and a wifi hotspot device on its own little plan. Went to the verizon store and told them I wanted to upgrade my wifes Iphone. She doesn't use hardly any data. Upgraded her phone to the S4. They put her on a shared plan with the wifi hotspot and told me I could leave my minutes alone or bump them down to the 450 plan. Either way my data would stay intact. I left it be for now just to keep from changing to much. Since my wife wasn't with me, I told the guy to reactive her iphone so she wouldn't be without service, and she would come up later to reactivate. I went to another store and told them my wife didn't like the S4 but since I already paid for it, I wanted to try it. He popped a new sim card in and activated it. Plan the same, all is good. Once you pay for it, its yours. You can use it as you please. Now, when she wants to upgrade, I got to make a decision........pay full price, or lose my plan. But, that will be some time down the road.
You only need to activate it on her line (otherwise her phone number will be stuck with a pending upgrade) and then you can immediately activate it on your line. While I don't sell cell phones I'm in a Verizon wireless store all the time and I've seen it done
Hello Everyone,
I in the next few days I will be available for a device upgrade. I am going to go from a Rezound to S4 but I am concerned about my unlimited data.
I still have unlimited data on my plan, will upgrading my device change this?
I know now they are forcing everyone into tiered plans but I was hoping this would not change my plan. My wife and I are on a shared plan and she had to get a 2GB data plan when she got her Rhyme. I was grandfathered into my unlimited when I got my Rezound. I also still have the 500 txt messages for $5 a month which they do not offer anymore. I hope that does not get changed either
Thanks,
Ian...
if you get the phone subsidized you lose unlimited, if you have another line you can take and activate the new phone on then move the phone back to your unlimited line you should be good. just don't activate the subsidized device on the unlimited line or you are toast. at least I think that's how it all works.
Spyke562 said:
Hello Everyone,
I in the next few days I will be available for a device upgrade. I am going to go from a Rezound to S4 but I am concerned about my unlimited data.
I still have unlimited data on my plan, will upgrading my device change this?
I know now they are forcing everyone into tiered plans but I was hoping this would not change my plan. My wife and I are on a shared plan and she had to get a 2GB data plan when she got her Rhyme. I was grandfathered into my unlimited when I got my Rezound. I also still have the 500 txt messages for $5 a month which they do not offer anymore. I hope that does not get changed either
Thanks,
Ian...
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You need to buy the phone outright at full price to retain your unlimited if you can't do the alternative line option corporal_hades pointed out. Verizon is offering financing to split the cost over 12 months with an additional $2 a month charge I believe.
I'm in the same boat you're in, I would like to upgrade, don't wanna give up my unlimited either.
Thanks for the information guys. Sometimes it seems like Verizon and the other carriers got us by the [email protected]
Don't forget the Moto X is $399, and the LG G2, HTC One, and Droid Ultra are $449 off contract now... just one more way to keep unlimited data.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/08/2...-retail-with-no-hassle-use-the-iconic-portal/
It may also be worth it to decide if you really need unlimited data, or change your usage somewhat to get within 2 or 4 GB of data a month, you can save a lot if you can make some changes to your usage and get on WiFi more.
I know corporate stores will not do it, but one of the smaller Verizon stores I went into the other day said I could use my upgrade to get a new phone on my wife's life(alternate upgrade), then do a hardware swap to put the new phone on my line. It wouldn't hurt to ask a few of the stores around you to see if theyll do that.
She said if I did this I would be able to keep my unlimited.
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I upgraded to the HTC one through best buy and was able to keep my unlimited plan. I upgraded the phone on my account that's already on the tiered data plan. Then switched the new phone to my unlimited line at the Verizon store. Best buy or Verizon didn't give me any problems doing it. Small price to pay to keep unlimited data.
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