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My apologies if this has been posted and discussed thousands of times already, but after Googling and searching my head off I decided to just bite the bullet and post.
Basically, I'm due an upgrade and my new choice of phone would depend heavily on which is the best for video playback - mostly HD and MKV.
I've seen that the LG Optimus 2X does not support MKV natively, but that the Samsung Galaxy SII does, and with better framerates (and a nicer screen). My question is this: how well does it play MKVs?
Could I just throw any MKV at it and it'll play it?
Does it need to be a particular resolution (720p/1080p)?
Will it accept ASS/SSA styled subtitles embedded in the MKV?
How about multiple audio tracks?
Essentially, my ultimate goal is for my phone to be able to play my entire video library as-is, without transcoding or remuxing.
Any tidbits or spec sheets would be so so helpful, and thanks in advance for any replies!
The video player had absolutely no trouble with any of the files we threw at it – starting with .WMV, through .AVI (DivX and XviD) and .MP4 to .MKV (H.264). Resolution wasn’t a problem either – the Samsung Galaxy S II played FullHD files. Large files of over 2GB worked as well.
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from http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9100_galaxy_s_ii-review-588p4.php
I also so a vid of it somewhere, can't remember where.
Many thanks for your reply!
That seems fantastic so far - it seems the support is there. Would it be fair to assume that since it supports Full HD and MKV natively, anything else (like styled subtitles or alternate audio tracks) will come with third-party development? Or am I just being naive?
I believe it supports textfile subs (.sub, .srt) as long as you give them the same name as the actual movie.
As for embedded subs support, I don't know. But it's not a big problem if there's no support right? You can easily extract them from the mkv.
Found the video I mentioned. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4d-wWCf4CQ&
Video-related preview starts at 6:05, but the rest is awesome as well. As for the other things you're asking about, I've no idea. But I think I heard about other android phones using subtitle phones, so at least that should be possible.
phonearena show some hd 1080p video playback in this video
youtube.com/watch?v=y4d-wWCf4CQ
he mentions the galaxy s2 runs mkv for breakfest
The phonearena video shows it playing 1080p MKV flawlessly, it shouldn't be a problem. My SGSI plays 720p MKV perfect. It will have subtitle support for external subs, and the embedded MKV type, since it will use the same video player as the SGSI, which supports these subtitles.
Xero Xenith said:
Basically, I'm due an upgrade and my new choice of phone would depend heavily on which is the best for video playback - mostly HD and MKV.
Could I just throw any MKV at it and it'll play it?
Does it need to be a particular resolution (720p/1080p)?
Will it accept ASS/SSA styled subtitles embedded in the MKV?
How about multiple audio tracks?
Essentially, my ultimate goal is for my phone to be able to play my entire video library as-is, without transcoding or remuxing.
Any tidbits or spec sheets would be so so helpful, and thanks in advance for any replies!
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Hi, you have similar needs as mine and I have done imo pretty extensive testing on my Galaxy S regarding the playback of mkv.
The best video player for SGS is mvideoplayer and I suspect for SGS2 as well. The reason? It accepts ass/ssa subtitles embedded. However, it only displays it as text. To be specific, the list is as below:
SubRip(.srt)
Sub Station Alpha(.ssa)
Advanced Sub Station Alpha(.ass)
MPL2(.mpl/.txt)
MicroDVD(.sub/.txt)
SubViewer2.0(.sub)
PowerDivX(.psb/.txt)
TMPlayer(.txt)
SAMI(.smi/.sami)
As for multiple audio tracks, default videoplayer or mvideoplayer doesn't allow for switching but software decoding for rockplayer allows for it, the downside is the video is no longer hardware accelerated and only external srt subtitles are readable on the app rockplayer.
As for what type of codecs within mkv is supported by SGS, well, video encoding is very very complicated, it is like balancing between different parameters, too much of that and it is not playable, reduce the resolution and it works. I can't simply say oh, H264, [email protected] Level 5.0 works at 720p resolution. Yes, some of them do but not all can. Thus, there's no 'spec' list to give because it is too varied.
Bottomline is: drag and try to play it, most of the time it should be playable. Audio codec support is the next headache. Ff I remember correctly, SGS could downsample AC3 6 channels to dual channel but can't do the same for AAC. vorbis aka ogg doesn't work, have not tried flac but I don't think it does.
One last thing, for most 'recent' mkvs using mkvmerge 4.4.0 and above, there is a need to remux it using mkvmerge to set the compression to none for both video and audio stream under extra options because apparently it is set by default to something else by the encoders. I discovered that only after googling online and wondering why in the world would those videos be unplayable when they should be. Mediainfo would give you all the information you need regarding a mkv video.
I am planning on getting a SGS 2 the moment it is released in Singapore and compare it with my current SGS. Hope that answers your questions, anymore?
Wait a minute, the default player also does subs, if your doesn't then its an out of date version of the default player...
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Wait a minute, the default player also does subs, if your doesn't then its an out of date version of the default player...
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only external but not embedded, and limited to srt?
Thanks again for your answers - this is very reassuring
Lobaba said:
Hi, you have similar needs as mine and I have done imo pretty extensive testing on my Galaxy S regarding the playback of mkv.
The best video player for SGS is mvideoplayer and I suspect for SGS2 as well. The reason? It accepts ass/ssa subtitles embedded. However, it only displays it as text. To be specific, the list is as below:
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I am planning on getting a SGS 2 the moment it is released in Singapore and compare it with my current SGS. Hope that answers your questions, anymore?
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Brilliant! This was a very informative answer If you get it before the end of May, would you be able to report how well some video files play if I send them to you? (I'll send small samples - mostly one minute, which is fair use under the DMCA.)
No worries if you can't, but it would be a big help
i have no problems with that, only problem is whether they will launch during may...
Lobaba said:
only external but not embedded, and limited to srt?
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The video player in the original SGS on 2.2.1 firmwares, or at least all that I have tried, will also play embedded MKV subtitles in the files I've tried it on...
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Thanks again for your answers - this is very reassuring
Brilliant! This was a very informative answer If you get it before the end of May, would you be able to report how well some video files play if I send them to you? (I'll send small samples - mostly one minute, which is fair use under the DMCA.)
No worries if you can't, but it would be a big help
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Can you send me your files also, I will be doing a review for the Clove Blog and this is an important aspect to me also, would be nice to give concrete answers on a variety of codecs.
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i have no problems with that, only problem is whether they will launch during may...
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No worries if you can't, but thanks so much Really appreciate it!
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Can you send me your files also, I will be doing a review for the Clove Blog and this is an important aspect to me also, would be nice to give concrete answers on a variety of codecs.
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No problem - I'll start organising them now
UPDATE: Full thread for this here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054962
EDIT: I have put these six tests together in line with what I said above. All are just short samples (one minute in most cases) and as such qualify for free use under the DMCA.
The aim is to have a test for a player's flexibility and capability when it comes to MKV, which is an irritatingly versatile format. As such, I have tried to make this as comprehensive as possible. However, I am no expert (just a guy with a lot of video to play), and so would appreciate any comments
The download links supplied for the first three are not my own. For the remaining three tests (IV-VI) please obtain this file:
http://www.mediafire.com/?965488edub8dzgc
Full details on all files used can be obtained here:
http://pastebin.com/GDtMQqkz
TEST I. Extreme (40Mbit/s) video quality in MKV. Codec: AVC; Res: 1920*1072
"Bird_42_MBit_ABR_(+-1.5 MBit).mkv"
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1D4BX1U9
Test passes if: video plays without stutter. File has no audio
IMPORTANT NOTE: This video is faster than most memory cards can handle. It may be best to run it off the internal memory, if there's space. In any case, if this test passes, it's outstanding!
TEST II. Very high (20Mbit/s) video quality in MKV. Codec: VC-1; Res: 1920*1080
"hddvd_demo_1080p.mkv"
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/530/HD-DVD_Demo_1080p_VC-1_DDPlus_5.1.html
Test passes if: video plays without stutter. (First few seconds in particular!)
TEST III. High (10Mbit/s) video quality in MKV with unstyled subs. Codec: AVC; Res: 1920*1080
"iguana.monsi.1080p.bd9.sample.mkv"
http://www.mediafire.com/?okmdmnymonz
Test passes if: video plays with subtitles on the screen. (May have to select subtitles with the menu.)
TEST IV. Medium (3.4Mbit/s) video quality in MKV with styled and unstyled subs. Codec: AVC; Res: 704*480
"Suzumiya_Haruhi_no_Yuuutsu_-_C4_-_Special_Ending_-__Hitsuji__e569a2b7_.mkv"
Test passes if: video plays with STYLED subtitles on the screen. (Styled means "coloured and positioned on the top and bottom") (May have to select subtitles with the menu.)
TEST V. Unusual combination of Xvid video and styled subtitles, including foreign languages. Codec: Xvid; Res: 640*346
"Matrix.Reloaded.Trailer-640x346-XviD-1.0beta2-HE_AAC_subtitled.mkv"
Test passes if: Video plays with styled (just coloured) English subtitles, AND can play with Japanese and Arabic subtitles. (May have to select subtitles with the menu.)
TEST VI. Dual audio in an MKV. Codec: AVC; Res: 1280*526. Audio codec: English: AAC, Hindi: MP3
"SAMPLE Harry Potter 4[Eng-Hindi]Dual.Audio BRRIP 720p-=[champ_is_here]=-.mkv"
Test passes if: Video plays with English audio, and can switch to Hindi audio.
I'd really appreciate it if you could run these through the SGSII
Many thanks for your replies!
Shamelessly bumping this thread as the tests above are very good and I'd love to get some results.
Could you also list what profile the h264 videos are?
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Shamelessly bumping this thread as the tests above are very good and I'd love to get some results.
Could you also list what profile the h264 videos are?
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Thanks for the kind words
The full info is available in the link above the tests (obtained from mediainfo on Linux). But I will list them again here:
Bird_42_MBit_ABR_(+-1.5 MBit).mkv : [email protected]
iguana.monsi.1080p.bd9.sample.mkv : [email protected]
Harry Potter 4 [...] .mkv : [email protected]
Suzumiya_Haruhi [...] .mkv : [email protected]
hddvd_demo_1080p.mkv : [email protected] (not H.264)
Matrix.Reloaded.Trailer [...] .mkv : Advanced [email protected] (not H.264)
Hmm... I hope it supports "High" profile
EDIT: Made a new topic as this is a bit outside the scope of the original title:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13290953#post13290953
I mirrored all the samples and put them in a table: http://www.auby.no/files/video_tests/
Wow, nice! If you have no objection, I'll put that link in my new thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13290953#post13290953
Many thanks, that mirror is amazing
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Wow, nice! If you have no objection, I'll put that link in my new thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13290953#post13290953
Many thanks, that mirror is amazing
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Feel free. Usually it's very fast, so either it has a bad day or people are downloading a lot
hi
i'm trying to run 720P movies on my device, and unfortunatly their not running smooth at all...
at first i had no sound, so i downloaded a codec pack. it helped and now i can hear but it's still very laggy.
I don't want to start d/ling every codec pack on the market until it'll run smooth...
anyone knows what's the proper codecs for this device?
thanks
guru_shastri said:
hi
i'm trying to run 720P movies on my device, and unfortunatly their not running smooth at all...
at first i had no sound, so i downloaded a codec pack. it helped and now i can hear but it's still very laggy.
I don't want to start d/ling every codec pack on the market until it'll run smooth...
anyone knows what's the proper codecs for this device?
thanks
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What type of 720P video is it? Perhaps it's your SD card not reading fast enough. The Quallcomm SOC is capable of playing back 1080P videos with no issues, so I'm not sure why 720P video is choppy.
Are you playing back in Software or hardware mode? Have you tried moboplayer on it?
well
i was playing from the devices memory, not an external SD. so its not that.
i dont know what software/hardware modes are
but i tried V player and it works ok for now. thanks
720 and 1080 both record and play back beautifully for me.
Loading movies to Jetstram
Can someone tell me how to get MY dvd's onto the jetstream?
Tracym said:
Can someone tell me how to get MY dvd's onto the jetstream?
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Use your PC to Rip em and convert them to mp4, then copy the mp4's to your Jetstream. It's not the most straight forward thing so you may have to google whenever you get stuck.
This ought to get you started though... http://lifehacker.com/230349/rip-dvds-with-vlc
cookiesowns said:
What type of 720P video is it? Perhaps it's your SD card not reading fast enough. The Quallcomm SOC is capable of playing back 1080P videos with no issues, so I'm not sure why 720P video is choppy.
Are you playing back in Software or hardware mode? Have you tried moboplayer on it?
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Adreno 220 is capable of playing 1080 hd mkv HIGH PROFILE 4.1?
I don't think so....
guru_shastri said:
hi
i'm trying to run 720P movies on my device, and unfortunatly their not running smooth at all...
at first i had no sound, so i downloaded a codec pack. it helped and now i can hear but it's still very laggy.
I don't want to start d/ling every codec pack on the market until it'll run smooth...
anyone knows what's the proper codecs for this device?
thanks
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DL the MX Movie player app and then use SW decoding.
EDIT - recently installed vlc and when I select a movie it gives the option of playing with the native gallery movie player even though they don't show up when you open the gallery. Great picture and allowed for SRS AND 5.1 sound.
Mobo player does the job for me
Hi guys,
Is anyone able to play 720p videos smoothly with the GT-P7510 running ICS? cause no matter what player I use.
The 720p videos lag way too much, but with Android 3.2 never really had such issues as the same 720p videos used to play fine.
Does ICS take more resources than Honeycomb?
Obviously would like to stick with ICS due to its features, but if it takes more resources than Honeycomb, that it doesn't even allow me to play 720p videos smoothly, then I will have to consider going sticking to Honeycomb, but 1st need your advice.
Thanks in Advance
Anyone alive?
Well, "720p videos" by itself simply isn't enough information to tell either way. What videos are you trying to watch (encoding, profile, bitrate) and which player do you use?
720p mp4s in standard h.264 high profile work just fine.
Well.. to answer that, all my 720p videos have been downloaded from youtube using tubemate.
Also as I explained before, these same 720p videos, play absolutely smooth with Honeycomb, but not with ICS.
I even installed the [Kernel] - 2.6.36.4 - OC-VFPv3-d16_FP 1.4GHZ - Galaxy Tab 10.1 (07/11/12), Overclocked it to 1.4Ghz, which became slightly smoother but the video was still laggy and noticeable.
Due to this, I reverted back to Honeycomb, and now all the videos play smooth again.
gokpog said:
Well, "720p videos" by itself simply isn't enough information to tell either way. What videos are you trying to watch (encoding, profile, bitrate) and which player do you use?
720p mp4s in standard h.264 high profile work just fine.
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kwazyivan said:
Hi guys,
Is anyone able to play 720p videos smoothly with the GT-P7510 running ICS? cause no matter what player I use.
The 720p videos lag way too much, but with Android 3.2 never really had such issues as the same 720p videos used to play fine.
Does ICS take more resources than Honeycomb?
Obviously would like to stick with ICS due to its features, but if it takes more resources than Honeycomb, that it doesn't even allow me to play 720p videos smoothly, then I will have to consider going sticking to Honeycomb, but 1st need your advice.
Thanks in Advance
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Try flashing to jellybean
I had the same problem with honeycomb.now totally smooth and totally cool.
The problem is with the tegra 2 chip inside.
It cannot play h.264 encoded videos.
Sent from my GT-P7510 using Tapatalk 2
kwazyivan said:
Hi guys,
Is anyone able to play 720p videos smoothly with the GT-P7510 running ICS? cause no matter what player I use.
The 720p videos lag way too much, but with Android 3.2 never really had such issues as the same 720p videos used to play fine.
Does ICS take more resources than Honeycomb?
Obviously would like to stick with ICS due to its features, but if it takes more resources than Honeycomb, that it doesn't even allow me to play 720p videos smoothly, then I will have to consider going sticking to Honeycomb, but 1st need your advice.
Thanks in Advance
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Kill background running apps, then play the videos and see if it gets better.
Len_TAb said:
Kill background running apps, then play the videos and see if it gets better.
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Thanks for the reply guys, I killed all background apps, made no difference in the performance, also tried Jelly Bean, but has the same lousy performance as ICS, no difference.
kwazyivan said:
Thanks for the reply guys, I killed all background apps, made no difference in the performance, also tried Jelly Bean, but has the same lousy performance as ICS, no difference.
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Hi there,
Have you tried Dice player with soft decoding?
bluejeros said:
Hi there,
Have you tried Dice player with soft decoding?
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Yes mate, I have also tried Dice player, with Hardware and software mode, also tried MX Player, no difference.
Ivan, can you post a link to a video that you're having a problem with?
No problems here so far, but I'll try one of yours and see if it plays ok here.
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Ivan, can you post a link to a video that you're having a problem with?
No problems here so far, but I'll try one of yours and see if it plays ok here.
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Now thats interesting, I have tubemate installed on my tablet that allows me to download any 720p videos from youtube, just do the same for a few videos, such as street fighter x tekken cinematic videos, also some music videos and test these please.
Let me know the results, and which rom, player and kernel you are using.
Thanks Mate, Much Appreciated
I had problems playing 720p+ mkv in both honeycomb and ics until i tried BS player. I'm hoping VLC will eventually surpass all the other media players. MX player works for me with software decoding enabled and DICE player works as well, with Hardware Accel.
all these players can't play videos properly ......I would recommend u to convert video into mp4 or avi using formatfactory for
PC .....once converted copy to ur tab and play using mx player or v player or stock ...........the resolution and bitrate
adjustments make videos look lot smoother and plays without any hookups ......always use high bitrate as it makes video more sharper and also vivid...........if u are a pro in video converting then use mediacoder hq for pc
HIT THANKS BUTTON IF I HAVE HELPED
kwazyivan said:
Now thats interesting, I have tubemate installed on my tablet that allows me to download any 720p videos from youtube, just do the same for a few videos, such as street fighter x tekken cinematic videos, also some music videos and test these please.
Let me know the results, and which rom, player and kernel you are using.
Thanks Mate, Much Appreciated
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I have download 12 720P videos from youtube with tubemate,
then i play videos with MX player with ArmV7 decoder pack.
the play back result was smooth, no lag.
GT-P7510 16G WIFI (Asia Version)
ROM: XABLPL ICS 4.0.4
Kernel: STOCK with A1XE OC 1400
Player: MX Player - Hardware decode
What ROM?
flymouse said:
I have download 12 720P videos from youtube with tubemate,
then i play videos with MX player with ArmV7 decoder pack.
the play back result was smooth, no lag.
GT-P7510 16G WIFI (Asia Version)
ROM: XABLPL ICS 4.0.4
Kernel: STOCK with A1XE OC 1400
Player: MX Player - Hardware decode
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Forget it, I see the ROM above....how do you delete posts?
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kwazyivan said:
Hi guys,
Is anyone able to play 720p videos smoothly with the GT-P7510 running ICS? cause no matter what player I use.
The 720p videos lag way too much, but with Android 3.2 never really had such issues as the same 720p videos used to play fine.
Does ICS take more resources than Honeycomb?
Obviously would like to stick with ICS due to its features, but if it takes more resources than Honeycomb, that it doesn't even allow me to play 720p videos smoothly, then I will have to consider going sticking to Honeycomb, but 1st need your advice.
Thanks in Advance
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Have you had any luck with this? I'm fighting the same issue.
kwazyivan said:
Hi guys,
Is anyone able to play 720p videos smoothly with the GT-P7510 running ICS? cause no matter what player I use.
The 720p videos lag way too much, but with Android 3.2 never really had such issues as the same 720p videos used to play fine.
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This is happening to me too. Stock and Overcome Honeycomb, many H.264 videos play smoothly. Stock Samsung 4.0 and CM-9-2012-09-30, hardware acceleration is broken--either slow, or full of random misplaced blocks. These videos were specifically encoded for Tegra 2 devices. Let's pick an unobjectionable one:
Code:
mediainfo -f bun.mpg
Format : MPEG-4
File size : 292 MiB
Overall bit rate : 1 203 Kbps
Duration : 33mn 56s
Writing application : HandBrake 0.9.8 2012071800
So far, so good. Now for the video stream:
Code:
Format : AVC
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings : CABAC / 5 Ref Frames
Bit rate : 1 000 Kbps
Width : 1280
Height : 720
Frame rate mode : Variable
Minimum frame rate : 17.114 fps
Maximum frame rate : 29.970 fps
Writing library : x264 - core 120
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:1:1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 /
me=umh / subme=8 / psy=1 / psy_rd=0.40:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 /
me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 /
deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 /
sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 /
constrained_intra=0 / bframes=6 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 /
direct=1 / weightb=0 / open_gop=0 / weightp=0 / keyint=300 /
keyint_min=30 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 /
rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=1000 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 /
qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:0.60
You will note the weightp=0 and weightb=0.
So, no weighted prediction, bitrate below 2Mbps, Level 3.1. These are the specs Motorola gave for the Tegra 2 decode capabilities in the ATRIX 4G (and indeed the video plays fine there on CM 7.2 in HW+ mode in MX Player and BSPlayer.)
What may strike you as a little strong about this is ref=5 and bframes=6. (This is from the x264 tune=animation.) On the Tab 10.1 on ICS using MX Player or BSPlayer, the video in fact looks like intermediate frames are not being rendered correctly; flip to the menu and back and you get a bunch of black blocks being slid around by the motion compensation code. So I'm wondering if some amount of video texture resources (or something) got eaten up in the ICS accelerated drivers for the Tab 10.1, and nobody told the hardware engines. Perhaps 2D acceleration scribbles on the textures used for reference frames.
This is as annoying as hell. I knew when I bought a second Tegra 2 device I was going to have video problems, but I thought I had them all figured out. Unlike the ATRIX which gained capability when updated, the Tab 10.1 seems to have lost it.
This is as annoying as hell. I knew when I bought a second Tegra 2 device I was going to have video problems, but I thought I had them all figured out. Unlike the ATRIX which gained capability when updated, the Tab 10.1 seems to have lost it.
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Same problem on the 10.1V after the OTA update.
Where 3.2 played HQ youtube videos without any problem, 4.0.4 manages to destroy it. Un-believable.
nopnopnop said:
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Format profile : [email protected]
Bit rate : 1 000 Kbps
Minimum frame rate : 17.114 fps
Maximum frame rate : 29.970 fps
ref=5
bframes=6 / b_pyramid=2
rc=2pass / bitrate=1000
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After staring at this a while, I've noticed some problems back on 3.2 A few thoughts:
The items up there are the most suspicious to me.
2pass does a good job of saving up bits for the hard scenes. Peak bit rate could be a lot higher. When Motorola said 2Mbps, it's possible they implied a peak bit rate too.
Nothing except BSPlayer likes Variable Frame Rate very much, especially the aggressive way it gets used in some animation. I'd bet toggling between 24fps and 30fps would be OK. Stuff filmed at 25fps and mauled on the way to broadcast at 1080i 60 fields/sec drives HandBrake kinda crazy, and I can't say I blame it.
One particularly brutal thing seems to be heavily motion-vectored scenes. Those could also be ones with high use of bidirectional prediction and multiple reference frames, so a symptom, not a cause.
Where the symptom on 3.2 is slowness, 4.0 is just broken. It's possible 4.0 on the Tab 10.1 actually did improve frame rate, but bugs in the code made it unwatchable--and somebody flipped a switch to put it back in software mode in order to have *something* work.
Audio Issues
Hi all,
I am running CM10 4.1.1 Preview with Pershoots Kernel 2.6.36.4 on my Gt-7500
Before I upgraded, I was using the stock HC ROM that came on my tablet.
Using Ultimate media server on my PC, and Bubble UPNP and and Daroon player on the tablet, I was able to stream DVD's from my DVD-ROM via my WIFI to the tablet, and all was working quite well.
But ever since upgrading to CM10 experimental preview, there is no Audio playback on the video. I can play mp3's the same way no problem.
Does anyone have any idea as to the problem? Perhaps some audio codecs were left out?
Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
Hi there,
I have a panasonic camcorder that records videos in 1080p to MTS file, I have tried several video players but video is stuttering like crazy in all of them. In my opinion Note 2 cpu is more than enough to play smoothly any video at any bitrate. I don't want to remux or reencode the whole library (200 gigs of videos) so is there something that can be done to play mts files smoothy?
Thanks
brodzik said:
Hi there,
I have a panasonic camcorder that records videos in 1080p to MTS file, I have tried several video players but video is stuttering like crazy in all of them. In my opinion Note 2 cpu is more than enough to play smoothly any video at any bitrate. I don't want to remux or reencode the whole library (200 gigs of videos) so is there something that can be done to play mts files smoothy?
Thanks
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Are you playing these over wifi?
voodooboy3000 said:
Are you playing these over wifi?
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No, I've already tried from internal memory as well as from sd card with the same result
What kind of bitrate are they are you able to post a sample?
voodooboy3000 said:
What kind of bitrate are they are you able to post a sample?
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The bitrate is around 16 mbps, do you know of any places where I can upload a big file for free?
brodzik said:
The bitrate is around 16 mbps, do you know of any places where I can upload a big file for free?
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Don't worry just grabbed some high bitrate samples to test brb
I just grabbed the panasonic 50p sample file from http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-xf-series-hd-camcorders/478223-xf300-compared-panasonic-hdc-tm700.html#post1524096
its 24.3Mbps 1080p 50fps
using MX player
HW+ mode it chugged and was extremely choppy
HW mode it didn't support
SW mode played fine with the odd dropped frame
Try MX player as your videos are lower spec they should play fine
voodooboy3000 said:
Don't worry just grabbed some high bitrate samples to test brb
I just grabbed the panasonic 50p sample file from http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-xf-series-hd-camcorders/478223-xf300-compared-panasonic-hdc-tm700.html#post1524096
its 24.3Mbps 1080p 50fps
using MX player
HW+ mode it chugged and was extremely choppy
HW mode it didn't support
SW mode played fine with the odd dropped frame
Try MX player as your videos are lower spec they should play fine
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Thanks for the sugestion, in SW mode it drops massive amount of frames, the video looks like in slow motion.
what is your camcorder? can you upload a test video (10 seconds or less) in mediafire to check it?
sotodefonk said:
what is your camcorder? can you upload a test video (10 seconds or less) in mediafire to check it?
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It is Panasonic HDC-SD60, will upload something tomorrow, thanks guys for your help
Just checked the specs, and I think the problem is that it records the files in 50 fps, which the current phones dont have the power to play it.
Try to check if there is a 30/25 fps limit and try to record in that format and test it on your device.
If there is not an option or you dont want to decrease the fps, then I guess your only choice is convert the videos to 30/25 fps.
sotodefonk said:
Just checked the specs, and I think the problem is that it records the files in 50 fps, which the current phones dont have the power to play it.
Try to check if there is a 30/25 fps limit and try to record in that format and test it on your device.
If there is not an option or you dont want to decrease the fps, then I guess your only choice is convert the videos to 30/25 fps.
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But my girlfriends asus tf300t plays them just fine. Does that mean that downclocked tegra 3 is faster than exynos in note 2?
I will do some other checks later. Maybe its not picking up the hardware acceleration correctly.
I have uploaded a 20 seconds sample, also it looks like the video is in 25 fps !
http://www.mediafire.com/?02p5dgd4y9j3160
Yup still lags for me, I even remuxed it to mkv to see if it was the file format causing it.
Looks like you are going to have to convert it all!
Dear brodzik,
I suggest you to try bsplayer from google play... AFAIK, bsplayer has its own rendering engine and this may solve your problem...
Kind regards.
Sent from my Amiga Note
PROTOCHIP said:
Dear brodzik,
I suggest you to try bsplayer from google play... AFAIK, bsplayer has its own rendering engine and this may solve your problem...
Kind regards.
Sent from my Amiga Note
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I've tried that already and it is stuttering like crazy
Is it because it's interlaced? Not 50fps but 25/25 interlaced. Does the phone have problems with 1080i stuff?
So any ideas as to why Tegra device has no problems playing this file and Note is strugling?
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BS software mode plays it smoothly.
720p mkv that need software decoding lag (doesn't play in default player). Mx player seems to stop for few frames then jump forward and then play normally. In Vplayer video slows for a bit then seem to go faster then normal and then slower - repeat.
This is bad...
Trno said:
720p mkv that need software decoding lag (doesn't play in default player). Mx player seems to stop for few frames then jump forward and then play normally. In Vplayer video slows for a bit then seem to go faster then normal and then slower - repeat.
This is bad...
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Just curious: do you have any other tablets to compare performance on?
DaddyWhale said:
Just curious: do you have any other tablets to compare performance on?
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No , my previous wouldnt run it at watchable rate. This can be watched but annoying
I have 720 4 gb mkv files and 10 gig 1080 p mkvs on my tablet all play smooth without any lag what so ever all play in vlc and mk player.
Must be a problem with your tablet or settings
ash6783 said:
I have 720 4 gb mkv files and 10 gig 1080 p mkvs on my tablet all play smooth without any lag what so ever all play in vlc and mk player.
Must be a problem with your tablet or settings
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10 bit ?
Trno said:
720p mkv that need software decoding lag (doesn't play in default player). Mx player seems to stop for few frames then jump forward and then play normally. In Vplayer video slows for a bit then seem to go faster then normal and then slower - repeat.
This is bad...
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Are the videos on an external SD card? If its a slow card, this may cause your lag. Make sure you have a class 10 sd card for these high bit rate files.
Sent from my LG-P990 using xda app-developers app
I have a class 4 and works fine a snooth as my blu ray player
its on internal
1815Kbps 23.976 fps AVC High [email protected] CABAC ,9 ref frames
Trno said:
720p mkv that need software decoding lag (doesn't play in default player). Mx player seems to stop for few frames then jump forward and then play normally. In Vplayer video slows for a bit then seem to go faster then normal and then slower - repeat.
This is bad...
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Try VLC Media Player !!
I've found that default player is laggy for mkv movies at 1080p. I tried poweramp (which I think is one of the best players) and I couldn't get the video to show up.
Then, I tried the VLC beta app, and like on my desktop is the best player for mkv files. No lag at all on a 1080p movie. Btw on a 90 minutes movie battery only ~20%
Enviado desde mi SGP312 usando Tapatalk 2
xperiax10.awesome said:
Try VLC Media Player !!
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Did , VLC vomited and stoped working after attempting to open.
But i did some digging and i learned that the issue is with 10 bit color coding. Hardware codec only works with 8 bit and so 10 bit needs to gets processed by software putting all load on cpu. Its easily confirmed by running 1080p 10bit that starts losing sound due to the load.
However 720p @10 doesn't lack much to be smooth so i think with oc it would go fine. But first i went searching for alternative to MX player.
Bs player got option to skip frames when behind and it smooths out video but audio goes out of sync after a while. After some more dead ends i found someone suggesting Archos player. And it works :victory: . I can't see any lag on my test sample anymore , another file also worked fine.
Guess im saved :]
Trno said:
Did , VLC vomited and stoped working after attempting to open.
But i did some digging and i learned that the issue is with 10 bit color coding. Hardware codec only works with 8 bit and so 10 bit needs to gets processed by software putting all load on cpu. Its easily confirmed by running 1080p 10bit that starts losing sound due to the load.
However 720p @10 doesn't lack much to be smooth so i think with oc it would go fine. But first i went searching for alternative to MX player.
Bs player got option to skip frames when behind and it smooths out video but audio goes out of sync after a while. After some more dead ends i found someone suggesting Archos player. And it works :victory: . I can't see any lag on my test sample anymore , another file also worked fine.
Guess im saved :]
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I use BSPlayer on my Samsung S2 and I think it's the fastest out there. Can you try it?
EDIT: oops... you have already tried it...
Use bs player or the archos video player plus the free codec pack.
I found MX player struggled with some of the MKvs I had until I turned on hardware Decoding. Everything's been fine since then.
TBH it's a shame the Movies app doesn't have all the audio codecs or gestures as it's quite a nice interface and can see all my XBMC uPNP content.