So I have started using an application on my Note 3 that is pretty much a battery muncher, GPS, Data, Processing, Graphics the works. I am looking into some options for extending battery life with some accessories. I was originally planning on getting 2 batteries with a charger but I'd like to also consider a portable battery pack so I can share the power with friends. What I am curious about is whether or not the charger can support the 900ma/h charging rate. I was wondering if the standard usb port can support the power as long as its a micro usb 3.0 connector. To simplify I just need to know that if I have type A usb connector to a micro usb 3.0 connector can I charge my phone at the fastest rate. And does the output of the charger have to be at least 1A?
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So I have started using an application on my Note 3 that is pretty much a battery muncher, GPS, Data, Processing, Graphics the works. I am looking into some options for extending battery life with some accessories. I was originally planning on getting 2 batteries with a charger but I'd like to also consider a portable battery pack so I can share the power with friends. What I am curious about is whether or not the charger can support the 900ma/h charging rate. I was wondering if the standard usb port can support the power as long as its a micro usb 3.0 connector. To simplify I just need to know that if I have type A usb connector to a micro usb 3.0 connector can I charge my phone at the fastest rate. And does the output of the charger have to be at least 1A?
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I own two battery packs. Both are from a company called PowerGen and I picked them up on Amazon.com. One pack is 12,000mah the other is 5,200mah. You just plug your regular charging cable into one of the standard USB jacks in the battery pack and turn it on. The larger pack has a 2A jack and will charge at a fast rate. When I was using the Note 2, I used a special heavy duty charging cable that I picked up on Amazon.com and that cable allowed the Note 2 to charge at a faster rate. I have not tried to use the cable on the Note 3, but I might soon. I feel that battery packs are a much more flexible approach than extra batteries. You can get more than one recharge on the battery pack. I addition, I use the battery packs with a large number of other devices. If you get a new device, the battery pack can still be used.
Xproplayer said:
So I have started using an application on my Note 3 that is pretty much a battery muncher, GPS, Data, Processing, Graphics the works. I am looking into some options for extending battery life with some accessories. I was originally planning on getting 2 batteries with a charger but I'd like to also consider a portable battery pack so I can share the power with friends. What I am curious about is whether or not the charger can support the 900ma/h charging rate. I was wondering if the standard usb port can support the power as long as its a micro usb 3.0 connector. To simplify I just need to know that if I have type A usb connector to a micro usb 3.0 connector can I charge my phone at the fastest rate. And does the output of the charger have to be at least 1A?
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YUp. I have an old anker external battery with 1a and 2a ports, the 2a port charges my note 3 at 1800. To be fair it is picky over the cable used (a decent quality non ribbon cable) and the temperature of the phone and battery (thermal throttling which is perfectly sensible to avoid cooking the battery and phone). It appears that there is a lot of variables that can potentially screw up a decent charge rate for some folks some of the time. My experience with the anker battery pack has been excellent, even nearly 2 years later after daily use.
Personally I am getting a little tired of the whole charging the battery twice a day so I am looking at a larger battery. The zerolemon allegedly affects signal quality, the 6400mah ones from elsewhere seem to come with shocking cases so I am still looking. It would be great if samsung came out with an extended battery and case. You think they would be after that money.
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YUp. I have an old anker external battery with 1a and 2a ports, the 2a port charges my note 3 at 1800. To be fair it is picky over the cable used (a decent quality non ribbon cable) and the temperature of the phone and battery (thermal throttling which is perfectly sensible to avoid cooking the battery and phone). It appears that there is a lot of variables that can potentially screw up a decent charge rate for some folks some of the time. My experience with the anker battery pack has been excellent, even nearly 2 years later after daily use.
Personally I am getting a little tired of the whole charging the battery twice a day so I am looking at a larger battery. The zerolemon allegedly affects signal quality, the 6400mah ones from elsewhere seem to come with shocking cases so I am still looking. It would be great if samsung came out with an extended battery and case. You think they would be after that money.
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How do you check what the charging rate is And id like a cable that bends with no resistance unlike the factory cable .
Theres a free app "galaxy charging current lite", seems to be pretty accurate compared to time taken to charge.
As for the cables. I checked quite a few cables and I noticed that the higher quality cables, more expensive, thicker, better connectors etc were far more likely to charge at a higher rate. I would not be shocked if some of the cheaper cables, especially the flat noodle types were skimping either in the cables or the shielding. I could be entirely wrong of course but I did attempt to limit any other variables like being in airplane mode, low room temp, battery not near fully charged.
Don't get me wrong, I find it a huge PITA using a stiffer cable but that is why I am looking for an extended battery that doesn't leave me with the worlds worst case or stuff up the signal.
Can anyone recommend a good car charger and a battery pack around 10,000 mah
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Can anyone recommend a good car charger and a battery pack around 10,000 mah
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I just posted the car charger I am using with the charging cable that provides a 1800 mA charging rate on the note 3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48626737
I just won a bid for a 12000 mah floureon portable charger 12.99 on ebay free shipping should be here today
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richym82 said:
YUp. I have an old anker external battery with 1a and 2a ports, the 2a port charges my note 3 at 1800. To be fair it is picky over the cable used (a decent quality non ribbon cable) and the temperature of the phone and battery (thermal throttling which is perfectly sensible to avoid cooking the battery and phone). It appears that there is a lot of variables that can potentially screw up a decent charge rate for some folks some of the time. My experience with the anker battery pack has been excellent, even nearly 2 years later after daily use.
Personally I am getting a little tired of the whole charging the battery twice a day so I am looking at a larger battery. The zerolemon allegedly affects signal quality, the 6400mah ones from elsewhere seem to come with shocking cases so I am still looking. It would be great if samsung came out with an extended battery and case. You think they would be after that money.
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I bought a floureon 12000 portable battery I was wondering what the 1 and 2 usb are for thanks for clarifying is it bad if I use the 2.a every time I charge fast will that effect my phone heating up etc?
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2 a is not bad. That is what the oem charger is. Depending on how much juice the app is using 1a won't cut it.
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2 a is not bad. That is what the oem charger is. Depending on how much juice the app is using 1a won't cut it.
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So what's 1.a for?
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So what's 1.a for?
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... for devices that only need 1A or less....
I use myCharge Amp 6000xt when I'm travelling. Plugs right into any US outlet to rechage, and can charge at up to 2.1A, with 3 USB ports available (1200mA typical charge rate on my Note 3 using a generic USB cable, according to my charge current app).
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So what's 1.a for?
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Most phones only come with a 1A charger, while most tablets (and Note 3) come with a 2-2.1A charger. I have an Power Bank battery with a 1A port and a 2.1A port. The 2. 1A port is the only one I use to charge my Note 3, and I use the 1A port for other phones and/or my blue tooth headset.
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Any third party extended battery options for the S7? I prefer the slim version if possible.
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I rigged up a battery pack using 4 rechargeable Energizer AAA's and just plug it into the DC power socket and double-sided taped it to the back of the unit
I imagine I could use some left over spare Li-Ion batteries from other phones though.
UPDATE: someone asked how
STEP 1: Buy something similar to this http://www.littlebirdelectronics.com/products/4%2dAAA-Battery-Holder.html
STEP 2: Buy a male plug that fits the female power socket on the S7 Like this but the correct size http://www.littlebirdelectronics.com/products/1.3MM-PLUG%2d2.5MM-SOCKET-DC-ADAPTOR.html
STEP 3: Solder them together so that the + and - charge come out of the same wires as the wall-charger
STEP 4: Plug in batteries
If this looks/sounds difficult, don't even attempt it, you WILL break your tablet.
Since the original battery do last too long, i found this 2 option that i think that work with S7:
Good price and free shipping
lol i cant post links yet, sorry guys...
here goes the links for the battery extender....
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4284~r.14121877
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.48449~r.14121877
Nice guys! I was searching for an internal battery solution.
These battery packs look nice but be carefull, the output is only 500 mA. The S7 charger is a 2amp output charger. I'm not sure how well it will run on a lower input.
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These battery packs look nice but be carefull, the output is only 500 mA. The S7 charger is a 2amp output charger. I'm not sure how well it will run on a lower input.
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The DC pack will only feed what the unit draws, and I doubt very much that it draws the entire 2000mA.
I have rigged up a USB charging cable for myself, USB pumps out 5v at 500mA max per port (I'm only using 1) and it charges a little slower than from the wall, depending on which computer I'm charging from, but apart from that it works great still and I can use the same cable to charge from other USB-charging devices like the one I have in my car.
The 500mA output will just mean it charges slower, and seeing how it's only a battery extender (IE, the oem battery is still required) and not a charging solution (the S7 can run without the battery off only the charge from the wall), the charge provided will be fine for extending the battery life.
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The DC pack will only feed what the unit draws, and I doubt very much that it draws the entire 2000mA.
I have rigged up a USB charging cable for myself, USB pumps out 5v at 500mA max per port (I'm only using 1) and it charges a little slower than from the wall, depending on which computer I'm charging from, but apart from that it works great still and I can use the same cable to charge from other USB-charging devices like the one I have in my car.
The 500mA output will just mean it charges slower, and seeing how it's only a battery extender (IE, the oem battery is still required) and not a charging solution (the S7 can run without the battery off only the charge from the wall), the charge provided will be fine for extending the battery life.
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500mAh as supplied by standard USB will charge but as you say only slowly.
It will not start a charge if the battery has been allowed to drop too low. That's common with all Lion batteries and is why you get a high current wall charger to do the job.
If you are using the device at the same time (and depending on the functions in use and the state of charge of the battery) you will definately struggle with any positive charge and will experience heat build up in the USB port, cable and device so be carefull!
If you are also using the device as a phone and get a call there will be an extra high peak current draw that has to be contended with and that complicates things further.
With all the tests that I have done allong these lines 1000mAh is a bare minimum to cope with eventualities and even then it's borderline.
I have blown car adapter fuses and had low current phone chargers get really hot.
I now only use 2000mAH rated chargers.
Are there any? I would really want to have a battery that could last at least 6 hrs... Any suggestions?
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Are there any? I would really want to have a battery that could last at least 6 hrs... Any suggestions?
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Energizer XPAL XP18000
That will give you about an extra 12-18 hours,
But no internal battery larger than standard. Why would you want one when the external packs are usable with any device and don't become redundant when you upgrade to a different model?
I made such a battery of two packages of Chinese Tablet battery voltage of 7.4V LiJon / 1500mAh connected in series and used a converter on the circuit LM2576 (with car charger navigation) [//chomikuj.pl/wibi) -> Huawei Ideos S7/Dodatkowa bateria]. This additional charger to recharge your battery voltage 8.4V. Pictures and diagrams from the following link will explain everything.
Alot has been said about the quality of various batteries that we are all looking at for our devices...however very little about the different chargers that are out there.
I thought my charger that I bought was defective cause I let it charge overnight and it wasn't fully charged. That is not the case.
The Charger that the Note comes with charges at 1A. Most of these external battery only chargers charge at 350mA.
Take a look at this calculator:
http://www.csgnetwork.com/batterychgcalc.html
Using the link to the calculator above, you should expect a 2600mAh battery to fully charge using one of these cheap chargers in about 9 HOURS!! The charger that the note comes with should expect about 3.4 hours. That's a huge difference in charge time!!
So be sure to take a look at the output of these chargers before you get too excited and purchase one. If it takes you 24 hours to charge a battery, what good is it to you?
Thanks for the battery reference URL.
This is basically another scenario of 'you get what you pay for..'
It seems to often apply to batteries and chargers.
Whereas for like cases, you have a better chance of actually saving money and getting quality at the same time.
CradleRob said:
Alot has been said about the quality of various batteries that we are all looking at for our devices...however very little about the different chargers that are out there.
I thought my charger that I bought was defective cause I let it charge overnight and it wasn't fully charged. That is not the case.
The Charger that the Note comes with charges at 1A. Most of these external battery only chargers charge at 350mA.
Take a look at this calculator:
http://www.csgnetwork.com/batterychgcalc.html
Using the link to the calculator above, you should expect a 2600mAh battery to fully charge using one of these cheap chargers in about 9 HOURS!! The charger that the note comes with should expect about 3.4 hours. That's a huge difference in charge time!!
So be sure to take a look at the output of these chargers before you get too excited and purchase one. If it takes you 24 hours to charge a battery, what good is it to you?
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So I guess for battery longevity, you should use a 500 mA charger (the typical USB output). That way it doesn't charge it too quick (and overheat the battery).
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So I guess for battery longevity, you should use a 500 mA charger (the typical USB output). That way it doesn't charge it too quick (and overheat the battery).
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No, actually. Lithium ion batteries, unlike nickle-cadium batteries actually perform and last better with short, fast charges. Android's battery stats are helped by a few full cycles, but it is not better for the battery to full cycle or slow charge.
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Thank you for this information, very helpful as I have other phone chargers. Is there a way(Windows based utility) to tell how many mah a USB port is outputting while charging?
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Thank you for this information, very helpful as I have other phone chargers. Is there a way(Windows based utility) to tell how many mah a USB port is outputting while charging?
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A multimeter
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Thank you for this information, very helpful as I have other phone chargers. Is there a way(Windows based utility) to tell how many mah a USB port is outputting while charging?
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*I am not an electrical expert, I just play one on TV.*
There are standards for USB outs. Just Google the standard. That said, there is USB1, USB2, and now USB3. Check your motherboard to see which one you have. There is also a newish thing on motherboards that will do a rapid charge by changing a setting on the BIOS. That's what i got off the top of my head. Do a little research.
As was pointed out on another thread, the Note looks for a low resistance/short between pins 2 and 3 of the USB cable. If it sees the low resistance, it enables a high current charge; otherwise, it sticks with USB standard charge of less than 500 ma. The 2/3 pin setup is not true of USB connections to a computer. The Note power adapter is set up this way to do a fast charge. Most chargers and portable battery chargers leave pins 2 and 3 unconnected, so they will not fast charge a Note even if they can supply 1A.
I purchased a Scosche 5000 mah battery with USB ports for charging Ipads, Iphones, and other devices. It also charges a Galaxy Tab with a special USB adapter plug. I tried the Tab adapter with my new Note and it was charging at 5 percent charged every ten minutes or so. Without the USB adapter, the Note charged at 2 percent every ten minutes or so. Without the adapter, the Note displays an MTP initialization notification. With the adapter, there is no MTP notification.
The Scosche battery is a big improvement over older Trent 5000 mah batteries. There is a push button to turn the Scosche battery on. The battery will turn off if no device is attached or it the device is fully charged. One of the ports can output 2.1A for an Ipad. The Trent battery would run down if it was left on.
Staples carries the Scosche battery for $80. I used a $29 online coupon from Staples that expires 3/5/2012.
I did not see anywhere on the Scosche website where they sell the Tab adapter by itself.
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As was pointed out on another thread, the Note looks for a low resistance/short between pins 2 and 3 of the USB cable. If it sees the low resistance, it enables a high current charge; otherwise, it sticks with USB standard charge of less than 500 ma. The 2/3 pin setup is not true of USB connections to a computer. The Note power adapter is set up this way to do a fast charge. Most chargers and portable battery chargers leave pins 2 and 3 unconnected, so they will not fast charge a Note even if they can supply 1A.
I purchased a Scosche 5000 mah battery with USB ports for charging Ipads, Iphones, and other devices. It also charges a Galaxy Tab with a special USB adapter plug. I tried the Tab adapter with my new Note and it was charging at 5 percent charged every ten minutes or so. Without the USB adapter, the Note charged at 2 percent every ten minutes or so. Without the adapter, the Note displays an MTP initialization notification. With the adapter, there is no MTP notification.
The Scosche battery is a big improvement over older Trent 5000 mah batteries. There is a push button to turn the Scosche battery on. The battery will turn off if no device is attached or it the device is fully charged. One of the ports can output 2.1A for an Ipad. The Trent battery would run down if it was left on.
Staples carries the Scosche battery for $80. I used a $29 online coupon from Staples that expires 3/5/2012.
I did not see anywhere on the Scosche website where they sell the Tab adapter by itself.
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Do you have a model number on that USB adapter? Maybe in the instructions?
There is only the name Scosche on the adapter. The guide only calls it the Galaxy Tab adapter.
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Ipaqman01 said:
As was pointed out on another thread, the Note looks for a low resistance/short between pins 2 and 3 of the USB cable. If it sees the low resistance, it enables a high current charge; otherwise, it sticks with USB standard charge of less than 500 ma. The 2/3 pin setup is not true of USB connections to a computer. The Note power adapter is set up this way to do a fast charge. Most chargers and portable battery chargers leave pins 2 and 3 unconnected, so they will not fast charge a Note even if they can supply 1A.
I purchased a Scosche 5000 mah battery with USB ports for charging Ipads, Iphones, and other devices. It also charges a Galaxy Tab with a special USB adapter plug. I tried the Tab adapter with my new Note and it was charging at 5 percent charged every ten minutes or so. Without the USB adapter, the Note charged at 2 percent every ten minutes or so. Without the adapter, the Note displays an MTP initialization notification. With the adapter, there is no MTP notification.
The Scosche battery is a big improvement over older Trent 5000 mah batteries. There is a push button to turn the Scosche battery on. The battery will turn off if no device is attached or it the device is fully charged. One of the ports can output 2.1A for an Ipad. The Trent battery would run down if it was left on.
Staples carries the Scosche battery for $80. I used a $29 online coupon from Staples that expires 3/5/2012.
I did not see anywhere on the Scosche website where they sell the Tab adapter by itself.
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What does an "MTP initialization notification" look like on the Note? How do I identify it?
If I don't see it when charging, does that mean it's getting a fast charge for sure, or just that it might be?
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A multimeter
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How exactly would you use a multimeter to do this? From what I've seen, they have two contacts -- where would you stick those? Or is there some kind of micro USB conversion thingy to use with a multimeter?
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How exactly would you use a multimeter to do this? From what I've seen, they have two contacts -- where would you stick those? Or is there some kind of micro USB conversion thingy to use with a multimeter?
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Cut a USB cable, and strip a portion of the power wires. Set the multimeter to a 10A DC current scale (assuming it supports 10A, but most craftsman and up do, with common and a 10A lead), disconnect the plug, attach common to negative wire and positive to positive wire, gator clips or something, then plug it in and read it. The current support and time it can be on depends on the multimeter. Mine does up to 10A for Max 30 sec.
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Does anyone know if the charger pack u charge to act as a charger for your phone (when not near electricity)is compatible with the note? I've seen them but i didn't know if they are compatible with the note since it has such a large battery. Also does anyone have a link to one?
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I just bought this Anker one from Amazon. Reviews are almost overwhelmingly positive and I can confirm that it does work on the Note just as well as it works on my Atrix 4G.
http://www.amazon.com/Anker-5600mAh...5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1330474615&sr=1-5
Does the higher the amount of mah on the battery pack equate to numerous recharges for your phone(depending on the phone's battery mah)?
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Yup. It's just shy of three full charges for my Atrix, which has a ~1900mAh battery. Should be two charges for a Note, give or take a little bit.
That's great! I just saw one on amazon with 11200 mah for $69 i think im going to get it.
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How long is the charge time on yours? I've never had one so i don't the slightest idea of how long it could take to charge one.
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I was going to get that one, but it was just too huge. I can slip the Anker 5600 I bought into a jacket or pants pocket with the cable and it's just fine. No problems with portability. Charge time is equal to what it'd be from an AC charger in my experience so far, but I only got mine a few days ago.
I meant wats the charge time of the battery pack?
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Haha...sorry. It was about half-charged when I got it (2/4 indicator lights) and took two hours to charge to four lights.
I got the mycharge ones since the cables are built in. 3Ah and 6Ah depending on my needs (1 or 2 nights). I like them even though they aren't 10Ah monsters.
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Just ordered the anker. I appreciate the info.
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Does it hold the charge or do you constantly have to recharge it?
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Most portable USB battery chargers do not support the signals that allow the Note to go to high current charge mode. Pins 2 and 3 of the USB connection need to be shorted with a low resistance. The Note senses this and switches on a high charge otherwise, it will stick to a standard USB charge of less than 500ma even if the battery charger can put out 1A.
I bought a Scosche 5000 mah portable battery charger that comes with a special USB adapter designed for the Galaxy Tab. I tested it with my Note. With the adapter, the Note charges in under four hours. Without the adapter, it takes overnight to charge the Note even though the Scosche has a USB port that puts out 2.1A to charge an Ipad.
Staples sells the Scosche battery for $80 but there is a $29 online coupon that is good until 3/5/2012.
Hmm... I have a rechargeable battery from Monoprice that I use with my iPhone 4 but I haven't tried it with my Note yet. It will probably only charge the battery about half way. Monoprice has good cheap rechargeable batteries to charge on the go if anyone is looking for something similar.
After a few more days with the Anker, it charges my Atrix and my Vivid at least as fast as my AC charger. Probably placebo effect, but it honestly feels like it charges it faster.
Why not just carry a couple of extra batteries and get a charging station for them? Seems cumbersome to have to have one of these attached to your device when you need more juice, when swapping out a battery is quick and has an instant full charge...?
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Why not just carry a couple of extra batteries and get a charging station for them? Seems cumbersome to have to have one of these attached to your device when you need more juice, when swapping out a battery is quick and has an instant full charge...?
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+1^^^
If you're gonna carry something anyway you might as well just have a single, spare battery instead of a power pack plus a cable. The Note has such an easy back to pull off and swap. Bing-bang-boom.
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+1^^^
If you're gonna carry something anyway you might as well just have a single, spare battery instead of a power pack plus a cable. The Note has such an easy back to pull off and swap. Bing-bang-boom.
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As someone who used to do this exact same thing with the captivate, it's definitely convenient to carry, however the interruption while you take off the case, remove the cover, replace the battery/reboot, can get annoying especiallky if you're right in the middle of doing something.
I'm getting ready to take a long plane flight, and I bought some battery packs from monoprice just now, with the intention of using one of them up front while I use the phone, so we'll see how that goes.
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As someone who used to do this exact same thing with the captivate, it's definitely convenient to carry, however the interruption while you take off the case, remove the cover, replace the battery/reboot, can get annoying especiallky if you're right in the middle of doing something.
I'm getting ready to take a long plane flight, and I bought some battery packs from monoprice just now, with the intention of using one of them up front while I use the phone, so we'll see how that goes.
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Note sure if it's just me, but the minute or so that my phone is down to swap the battery and reboot seems much more appealing and convenient than having a battery pack dangling by a cord from my phone for multiple hours while it charges, or keeps it charged.
Not to mention how many spare batteries you could buy for the price of one external battery pack.
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Note sure if it's just me, but the minute or so that my phone is down to swap the battery and reboot seems much more appealing and convenient than having a battery pack dangling by a cord from my phone for multiple hours while it charges, or keeps it charged.
Not to mention how many spare batteries you could buy for the price of one external battery pack.
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I actually agree partially, however I just found out that monoprice.com sells 2800mah battery packs for like $13 each. I just bought three:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083311&p_id=7664&seq=1&format=2
That said, I likely will still buy an extra regular battery that I can just carry in my pocket. The main reason I'm going with the external batteries is because I'm getting ready to go on a trip with 15 month old twins to europe, and I can use these external packs to power up both my phone, and my touchpad (Which I need for playing childrens shows)
Hi all,
When I use the charger that came with the HTC One my phone charges great, rapid.
But when I use any other charger that I have in my home/office it charges very slow. Even with a 2.1 amp charger!
The charger that comes with the phone has an output of 1 amp.
I've tried multiple other chargers (1 amp and 2.1 amp) and they all trickle charge.
Anyone else noticing this?
Thanks
Joe
I'm using old charges at home and in the office and it did seems slow but had not heard of rapid charge. Will the phone indicate this rapid charge mode? If not, is it real?
I'm getting slow charging even on the stock HTC charger. Not sure how I can enable this rapid charge cause 4+ hours from 0-1% to full is a bit ridiculous.
use orginal charger is best , maybe it has some relationship with your battery life
If anyone is coming from phones with smaller batteries, remember the larger the capacity the long it takes to charge.
I use the cable and charger from my Nexus 7 and it charges fast. Off my USB it is slow.
Real AC chargers have two pins shorted. You can hack a USB to micro USB cable and short the same two pins to enable AC charging with any adapter, wall, USB, or car. Should be pins 3+4, but don't hold me to that.
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flooty333 said:
Hi all,
When I use the charger that came with the HTC One my phone charges great, rapid.
But when I use any other charger that I have in my home/office it charges very slow. Even with a 2.1 amp charger!
The charger that comes with the phone has an output of 1 amp.
I've tried multiple other chargers (1 amp and 2.1 amp) and they all trickle charge.
Anyone else noticing this?
Thanks
Joe
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c5satellite2 said:
Real AC chargers have two pins shorted. You can hack a USB to micro USB cable and short the same two pins to enable AC charging with any adapter, wall, USB, or car. Should be pins 3+4, but don't hold me to that.
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i've done exactly this, and damned if the One still refuses to draw more than ~500 ma off of anything but the 2.1 A wallwart it came with (i don't have any others to try with). i'm about to dig out an old inverter to see if that will actually work. wish i'd paid more attention to my EE dad when i lived at home; i've gotten a serious crash course in this stuff while trying to get my One to charge in my car, when it's on.
edit: so i got my old inverter out, and spent about 15 minutes testing. i used the 2.0A adapter that came with my Nexus 7 to test, as well as the 3.1A Mediabridge adapter i got here. my phone was at about 45% when i started testing. unplugged, Battery Monitor Widget reported a drain of anywhere between 500ma and 650ma (running Ingress, wifi on). plugged in to the Mediabridge adapter showed, at best, a drain of 50ma. the Nexus adapter plugged in to my inverter charged at a fairly consistent ~120ma. i didn't touch my phone the entire time.
i left my Nexus 7 at work so i can't use it to repeat the test, but i will do so tomorrow. the cable i'm using is this one. i'm not crazy about having a ridiculous DC-AC inverter in my car for my phone, but if that's what i have to do so it can be used and not drain, then so be it. admittedly, i don't really understand these things enough to explain these variations, but i plan on learning ASAP. perhaps somebody else can shed some light on why the device charges different, and how it identifies an AC-USB adapter vs a DC-USB adapter.
sluflyer06 said:
If anyone is coming from phones with smaller batteries, remember the larger the capacity the long it takes to charge.
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Math doesn't support what is happening though. Phone has a 2300mAh battery. The OEM charger outputs 1A (1000mAh)
At most, it should be around 3 hours for full charge, when in fact it is closer to 4-4.5 hours. It's the last 10% that is the issue, it will trickle charge to 100% rather than rapid charge.
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Math doesn't support what is happening though. Phone has a 2300mAh battery. The OEM charger outputs 1A (1000mAh)
At most, it should be around 3 hours for full charge, when in fact it is closer to 4-4.5 hours. It's the last 10% that is the issue, it will trickle charge to 100% rather than rapid charge.
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Yes, I think that's exactly what the HTC does... I read a pretty good article recently about Li-Ion batteries that talks about how trickle charging is the best for battery life, and it wouldn't surprise me if HTC got a little aggressive the way the this phone charges since we can't swap the battery ourselves.
I'm trying one last car charger, which matches the wattage of my Nexus 7's 5Vdc/2A AC adapter (which I've had the best luck with, when charging the phone while in use): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009TBF7IG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
If that doesn't work, I'm going to put a 300W inverter in my car with the AC adapters themselves and stop buying stinking DC adapters. This phone clearly pays very close attention to the wattage available from whatever it's plugged in to.
veener79 said:
I use the cable and charger from my Nexus 7 and it charges fast. Off my USB it is slow.
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Same here, 2a Nexus 7 brick with a long Logitech USB cable, much faster than stock (and longer)
Harbinger1080 said:
Yes, I think that's exactly what the HTC does... I read a pretty good article recently about Li-Ion batteries that talks about how trickle charging is the best for battery life, and it wouldn't surprise me if HTC got a little aggressive the way the this phone charges since we can't swap the battery ourselves.
I'm trying one last car charger, which matches the wattage of my Nexus 7's 5Vdc/2A AC adapter (which I've had the best luck with, when charging the phone while in use): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009TBF7IG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
If that doesn't work, I'm going to put a 300W inverter in my car with the AC adapters themselves and stop buying stinking DC adapters. This phone clearly pays very close attention to the wattage available from whatever it's plugged in to.
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I'm fortunate my car has a built in inverter that I use for charging my phone.
nest75068 said:
I'm fortunate my car has a built in inverter that I use for charging my phone.
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My next car will too, because I can only imagine that power requirements for these devices is going to increase.
That said, I think I have a winner, and instead of retyping my posts, I'll just link to that thread instead: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41797839&postcount=6
Since the snap Dragon 600 has fast charging capabilities, why didn't HTC Include it in the kernel??? I've noticed my 2500 mAh note battery charges faster than my 2300 MAH HTC one
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Hi people
Since I'm part of the lucky people owning a Huawei Ascend Mate 7 (MT7-TL10), I'm actually looking some accessories like a quick charger.
I wish a charger better than the original one if possible, with EU pins, and with a good quality checked (I prefer to avoid some product with awesome specs but not tested ...)
So anyone have any idea where I can find a good charger, and without any risk for my phone ?
Thanks
WolwX said:
Hi people
Since I'm part of the lucky people owning a Huawei Ascend Mate 7 (MT7-TL10), I'm actually looking some accessories like a quick charger.
I wish a charger better than the original one if possible, with EU pins, and with a good quality checked (I prefer to avoid some product with awesome specs but not tested ...)
So anyone have any idea where I can find a good charger, and without any risk for my phone ?
Thanks
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for few days i went to jarir book store on KSA . I found Charger good price also 2 USB 5 volt 2.4 Amber ... compatiable with mate 7 and faster from orignal ...
just to know more fasting to charge wil damge your batter of mate 7 quickly .also orignal 2 A will damge
for me I charging with Iphone charge 1A good for batter and Stander and low risk to Device
If you want proper charging, then always use the accessories coming with that product. It is tested for sure and good. Other than that, you can use any charger delivering the same charge. The original charger is 5 volt, 2 Ampere. Don't use anything above 2 amperes as it may damage the device. Below that will charge it slowly.
BTW, why you don't want to use the original charger?
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I use Nexus 6 Turbo charge (made by Motorola) 5v 1.6A it charge full battery in 90 minute.
http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories/power-storage/chargers/motorola-turbo-charger/motorola-turbo-charger-pdp.html
Is it safe for battery life of Mate 7?
I'm using a NTT Docomo Quickcharge 2.0 adapter and It does support it even though is not specified and it's not a qualcomm chip.
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djmaxi said:
I'm using a NTT Docomo Quickcharge 2.0 adapter and It does support it even though is not specified and it's not a qualcomm chip.
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Can you test it with ampere (free in gplay) i don't think it will charge over 1800mA so that it acts like a normal 2a charger
Fast charging
Using a fast charger will destroy your battery faster. Not recommended as the battery is not removable. You can get a battery and if you are comfortable removing the back and swapping it out then go for it.
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PoopDonkey said:
Using a fast charger will destroy your battery faster. Not recommended as the battery is not removable. You can get a battery and if you are comfortable removing the back and swapping it out then go for it.
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that is not correct as you are not connecting the charger to the battery directly. In fact the charger is just a power supply. The actual charger is integrated into the phone (charging controller).
In general you need to know that volts are pushed to the device by the power supply and amps are drawn by the device (phone) from the power supply. Therefor using a power supply with more than 5V will kill your phone but using one with 2A, 3A or even 4A will make no difference as the charging controller will just pull the amps required. Because of that you can not really fast charge a phone by changing the power supply only if the phone supports the fast charge option (for example some Nexus phones).
I tested this myself with a power supply (can provide 5V and 1.5 to 4 amps) and an amp meter. The phone always drew between 1.5 and 1.6 amps (with and empty battery, 8 to 10% left) regardless of the selected amps of the power supply. Using a power supply with less than 1.5A will kill the power supply as the phone tries to draw the 1.5 amps or more. As result the power supply will get hot and eventually die.
Since battery is not removable be careful with fast charging, since it will decrease the life span of the battery and in the end it will just give you less battery performance.. it is stupid... however.. there is situations where it can be really needed though but not on a regular basis..
Last weekend I would really had needed fast charging.. It forced me to spend about 3 hours on a cafee so I could make it 100% so I did know I did survive the day with gps and all other things.. However in these situations I really like the ultra power saving mode..it saved me that night.. when I was lost in stockholm.. and my phone was really the only way to get contact with people
blackinfinity said:
Since battery is not removable be careful with fast charging, since it will decrease the life span of the battery and in the end it will just give you less battery performance.. it is stupid... however.. there is situations where it can be really needed though but not on a regular basis..
Last weekend I would really had needed fast charging.. It forced me to spend about 3 hours on a cafee so I could make it 100% so I did know I did survive the day with gps and all other things.. However in these situations I really like the ultra power saving mode..it saved me that night.. when I was lost in stockholm.. and my phone was really the only way to get contact with people
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Why don't you buy a powerbank? I can advice you the xiaomi 16000mah. That one charges fast and you can be mobile.
Any recommendations?
I wonder if a S6 charger do the trick. Stock charger is too slow damn. Spending 3 hours to have a full charge is not acceptable for me.
I'm going to be honest, it doesn't really matter how you charge your phone as long as you don't go over 5v and 2 Amps. Batteries will automatically lose cells from charge cycles and by the time you feel the effects of the battery going bad, you would have already moved on to the next device for the next person to worry about. And saying to use the Stock Charger isn't really good enough as the Stock charger doesn't serve as a Car charger also. If you want to charge your phone quick, and you already have a 2 Amp charger, Check your microUSB cable. Don't use junk cables, buy quality or use the cable you received with the device. You get what you pay for. Fast Charging won't work as the Charger has a chip inside that communicates with the Phone and Device. Also, when buying a charger, don't just randomly buy a charger online, Make sure its UL Tested. Even if it says UL tested, there should be a test number on that UL Label, take it a step further and google it and make sure it matches the charger specs and passes as knockoff chargers are notorious for copying other chargers Regulatory icons to make it seem authentic. You don't want to buy a junk charger that ends up burning your house down or gives you a very bad 120 Volt shock through the microUSB cable that would also kill and fry your phone.
treem said:
I use Nexus 6 Turbo charge (made by Motorola) 5v 1.6A it charge full battery in 90 minute.
http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories/power-storage/chargers/motorola-turbo-charger/motorola-turbo-charger-pdp.html
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1.6A is nothing.. i use 2.0A and it still chrges 3 hours
one friend conected his phone to a hi suite, he went to repair sistem or something like that, and it pop out an option of QUICK CHARGE... even he doesent know how that hapends, now his phone charges faster. he is on b331 rom
cyvr1 said:
Hi,
that is not correct as you are not connecting the charger to the battery directly. In fact the charger is just a power supply. The actual charger is integrated into the phone (charging controller).
In general you need to know that volts are pushed to the device by the power supply and amps are drawn by the device (phone) from the power supply. Therefor using a power supply with more than 5V will kill your phone but using one with 2A, 3A or even 4A will make no difference as the charging controller will just pull the amps required. Because of that you can not really fast charge a phone by changing the power supply only if the phone supports the fast charge option (for example some Nexus phones).
I tested this myself with a power supply (can provide 5V and 1.5 to 4 amps) and an amp meter. The phone always drew between 1.5 and 1.6 amps (with and empty battery, 8 to 10% left) regardless of the selected amps of the power supply. Using a power supply with less than 1.5A will kill the power supply as the phone tries to draw the 1.5 amps or more. As result the power supply will get hot and eventually die.
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so much misinformation
this post is the only one who gets it right.
Kalemucu said:
Any recommendations?
I wonder if a S6 charger do the trick. Stock charger is too slow damn. Spending 3 hours to have a full charge is not acceptable for me.
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You have not read my earlier post or you did not understand it. Changing the charger on the Mate 7 will have NO effect (zero, nada) on the time required to charge your phone except the charger delivers less then appr. 1.6A. Then it would take longer and evetually kill the charger. The Mate 7 uses a Kirin chip which has no fastcharge implemented. Samsung uses Qualcomm Chips with implemented fastcharge technology. The charger (in fact a power supply) and the phone/CPU/charge controller need to communicate with each other, otherwise fastcharge will not be activated (the reason fastcharge with charge-only cables does not work because they lack the required data cables for communication).
I'm going to be honest, it doesn't really matter how you charge your phone as long as you don't go over 5v and 2 Amps.
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Wrong. Correct would be "I'm going to be honest, it doesn't really matter how you charge your phone as long as you don't go over 5v." The amps of the charger don't matter at all -> amps are PULLED by the phone not pushed to the phone. You could use a charger with 100 or 1000 amps and it would not hurt your phone a bit as long as it is only charged with 5 Volts.
More amps (>1.6A) on the charger do not improve the time for charging one second.
1.6A is nothing. i use 2.0A and it still chrges 3 hours.
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Yes, and that won't change one bit even if you use the best and most expensive charger and a 1000$ cable. The Mate 7 is limited by its hardware (built in charge controller) and pulls max 1.6A. End of story.
As long as you don't understand how charging works you will spend 100's of bucks for cables and chargers to no avail.
The only reason, why charging with some charges is quicker than with others is that those chargers actually deliver the amps they are supposed to deliver. There are a lot of cheap/bad chargers out there which are labelled with 5V/2A but only deliver a fraction of the amps. You can identify those chargers easily because they get extremly hot. I use a 2A charger from Aukey which gets only lukeworm.