@jerdog posted this video earlier. Anyone else notice this with either their Xperia ZU or their ZU GPE?
I checked mine and it seems to not be as bad as jerdog's . On mine it seems to only happen when I press one particular spot on the screen
WHY did you have to show me this? I just checked by opening a black image in Chrome, and it does happen in one spot if i push hard. Looks like a part of the LED "feels the pressure".
Edit: Oh, also, the Z Ultra uses a "zero gap" display, which means that the LCD panel and the glass is one part, so by pushing the glass down, we also push the LCD panel down.
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WHY did you have to show me this? I just checked by opening a black image in Chrome, and it does happen in one spot if i push hard. Looks like a part of the LED "feels the pressure".
Edit: Oh, also, the Z Ultra uses a "zero gap" display, which means that the LCD panel and the glass is one part, so by pushing the glass down, we also push the LCD panel down.
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Really Xperia Z Ultra uses "zero gap" display? Lg g2 has but never heard before for xzu.
techpal said:
Really Xperia Z Ultra uses "zero gap" display? Lg g2 has but never heard before for xzu.
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Yes, Sir. I read it somewhere on the Sony blog or whatever. You can easily see this yourself by holding your finger straight down on the screen while it's on. It'll look like you're touching the piuxels and not the glass (which looks to be really really thin)
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Yes, Sir. I read it somewhere on the Sony blog or whatever. You can easily see this yourself by holding your finger straight down on the screen while it's on. It'll look like you're touching the piuxels and not the glass (which looks to be really really thin)
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Thats nice to hearSame thing I experienced just now.
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Thats nice to hearSame thing I experienced just now.
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Yeah similar with mine. But it is more pronounced in the left and right of the screen about 2/3 from the bottom of the phone. Not a problem i guess.. But that just shows you how sensitive the display is and might need some extra care for not putting too much force on it.
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Yeah similar with mine. But it is more pronounced in the left and right of the screen about 2/3 from the bottom of the phone. Not a problem i guess.. But that just shows you how sensitive the display is and might need some extra care for not putting too much force on it.
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Yup, it doesn't surprise me, being an LCD display, but it's only noticeable if i press much harder than i'd usually press, so it won't even be noticeable under normal (human) usage.
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Hey people!
I have had this Sony Xperia Z2 for about a week now and I'm happy about everything but the screen. When tilting the phone in decent lightning I can clearly see the grid in the shape of lines going vertically from the top to the bottom of the screen like you can see on the posted photo. I can also see the dots when the sun is shining but this is something that everybody is reporting so I'm not worried about that.
So my question is, do you also see this and as clear as I am?
Yes, you can sleep well, we have the same visible grid. This is a price for thinnes of display.
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cedropol said:
Yes, you can sleep well, we have the same visible grid. This is a price for thinnes of display.
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Haha, okay! Nice to here that I don't have an defect product.
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Haha, okay! Nice to here that I don't have an defect product.
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haha man don't worry i got these too on mines :$ i think its their technology will try to do a bit of research on it ^^
shaf46 said:
haha man don't worry i got these too on mines :$ i think its their technology will try to do a bit of research on it ^^
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Okay, please write here if you find out something about this subject. I find it quite strange though that no reviewers even mentions this when I picked up on it instantaneously.
About their technology, I saw a video from sony where they showed the display and the things underneath the screen. At one point they showed like blue lights shaped like lines which probably are what we see when looking at the screen from an non straight angle.
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Okay, please write here if you find out something about this subject. I find it quite strange though that no reviewers even mentions this when I picked up on it instantaneously.
About their technology, I saw a video from sony where they showed the display and the things underneath the screen. At one point they showed like blue lights shaped like lines which probably are what we see when looking at the screen from an non straight angle.
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even my z1 had this i guess its the technology use in the screen ( ex. triluminos )
It's in all capacitive touch phones, but it vary from one to one on how easy to spot them depending on the screen and touch screen technology...
I had these in almost all my phones, Sony and non-Sony so don't worry...
In Xperia Z is the same.
My first phone had massively visible patterns on the screen and were clearly visible when the screen was off, I got my device replaced as it had gaps and over heating issues and the new device I received has nothing on it. Even the ones on display in the store had none. So i will put it down to a certain batch / manufacturing lot carrying these patterns.
PS: my first device was a W15 and the new one is a W19.
Can anyone post a picture with the digitizer visible in order to assess if this would be an issue?
Thanks.
I wonder if it has to do with how reflective the Z2 screen is. I've noticed that it's more reflective than most smartphone screens. It's not a huge deal to me, but I also think it's why some people complain about the outdoor performance. Ideally Sony will improve this in the future.
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Hey people!
I have had this Sony Xperia Z2 for about a week now and I'm happy about everything but the screen. When tilting the phone in decent lightning I can clearly see the grid in the shape of lines going vertically from the top to the bottom of the screen like you can see on the posted photo. I can also see the dots when the sun is shining but this is something that everybody is reporting so I'm not worried about that.
So my question is, do you also see this and as clear as I am?
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same with mine. thought its a defect. this is my 2nd phone since i changed my 1st phone because it has dead pixel. now i thought my 2nd phone has defect again
As title.
Have a look at video.
Pressure marks on screen.
Second Z ultra thats doing this. First one I had right fun and games with a certain repairer.
Here it is. Do I live with it or send it back?
Thanks for your time ladies and gents.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eLoJhiefOo
Hmmm, it's an LCD panel, so it'll do that if you give it a hard press (like your PC monitor and TV), but that's not normal, no. The Ultra's panel is so-called "zero gap", which means that the glass and LCD panel are fused together making it one piece, and not two. That's how they've made it so thin. The glass is also very thin (Dragontrail), so that combination will have some consequences. BUT this doesn't look normal. You're not even tapping hard, so that looks like a defect. I get it too if I press hard, and I mean really hard.
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Hmmm, it's an LCD panel, so it'll do that if you give it a hard press (like your PC monitor and TV), but that's not normal, no. The Ultra's panel is so-called "zero gap", which means that the glass and LCD panel are fused together making it one piece, and not two. That's how they've made it so thin. The glass is also very thin (Dragontrail), so that combination will have some consequences. BUT this doesn't look normal. You're not even tapping hard, so that looks like a defect. I get it too if I press hard, and I mean really hard.
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My first Ultra was like this but in a different place on the screen. But this one I only just got it out the box and it was doing it.
Getting a bit sick of it to be honest. I love the Z Ultra but I`m wondering if I`ll get a good one!
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My first Ultra was like this but in a different place on the screen. But this one I only just got it out the box and it was doing it.
Getting a bit sick of it to be honest. I love the Z Ultra but I`m wondering if I`ll get a good one!
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Yeah, that's understandable. I would probably have swapped it again if it's something you notice under regular usage, or just go with a different device altogether.
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Yeah, that's understandable. I would probably have swapped it again if it's something you notice under regular usage, or just go with a different device altogether.
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One more chance to get a good one. Real shame as the Ultra is a fantastic phone. If it wasn`t under warranty I would have stripped it and investigated for myself. Still, never mind.
Would like to hear from anyone else who has had a similar problem.
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One more chance to get a good one. Real shame as the Ultra is a fantastic phone. If it wasn`t under warranty I would have stripped it and investigated for myself. Still, never mind.
Would like to hear from anyone else who has had a similar problem.
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I had a look at both of mine the other day, one does this on the left side of the screen if I press too hard, the other doesn't seem to do it at all. A symptom of too thin glass/ts/panel and too big?
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I had a look at both of mine the other day, one does this on the left side of the screen if I press too hard, the other doesn't seem to do it at all. A symptom of too thin glass/ts/panel and too big?
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I think so. But it shouldn`t happen. But then again, the technology was cutting edge. Maybe the Z2 Ultra won`t have these problems.
I have OCD and it really bothers me. Too picky I know but would like it right. I haven`t lost hope with Sony products at all, just think that with something cutting edge there will be flaws...
As per title, at certain angles in sunlight I see a matrix of dots on screen, is this normal, ie its just the multitouch matrix?
Is it common on Z2?
Got my Z2 yesterday, refurb phone via contract. It looks new so hope its normal
Yes it's normal.
roy8846 said:
As per title, at certain angles in sunlight I see a matrix of dots on screen, is this normal, ie its just the multitouch matrix?
Is it common on Z2?
Got my Z2 yesterday, refurb phone via contract. It looks new so hope its normal
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i had it to somtimes i see it Supposed to be like that for the colour i read
Thanks guys!!
Didnt have it on my G2 or my Xiaomi Note, seems quite noticeable at times in sunlight!!
roy8846 said:
Thanks guys!!
Didnt have it on my G2 or my Xiaomi Note, seems quite noticeable at times in sunlight!!
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It only come time to time if u think about it, you cant compare 1 display with another xD
So as I am walking with my phone, sun behind me I get lines of bright dots going up and down the screen. So annoying!!!
yup, I was wondering about that as I've had a g2 and m7 before, but never seen this.
the screen seems fine however
It is in fact normal. It is for the capacitive touch screen. I had galaxy note and Omnia HD and they did not have something like this, but I know that HTC HD2 had it.
It's just digitizer (touch device). On some phones it's just more visible than on the others. You just have to get used to it.
its typical on slimmer xperias
had it on my xperia s and also both of my Z2s
Even indoors, if the screen gets hit with direct light, there is a clearly visible crosshatch pattern across the whole display. Anyone else notice this?
Got to say I'm not too impressed with the screen quality. Light bleed, dead pixels and now this. My much cheaper Redmi 1s has none of these issues. Sure, the colours aren't as vibrant but not sure which I'd choose given the choice.
Don't see any of this, perfect picture from every angle and every light condition
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There is nothing in the screen which unimpressive but If you you are expecting S6 or Z5 level screen then you are expecting too much and than you bought wrong one, just buy G4 S6 or Z5 if you want everything impressive except price
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Don't see any of this, perfect picture from every angle and every light condition
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There is nothing in the screen which unimpressive but If you you are expecting S6 or Z5 level screen then you are expecting too much and than you bought wrong one, just buy G4 S6 or Z5 if you want everything impressive except price
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If you get direct light on the screen, you don't see the digitizer? I noticed it within a couple mins of using phone and wasn't looking for it. Never seen a digitizer so easily noticeable before.
I don't think its too much to expect at this price a screen without noticeable light bleeding, dead pixels etc. Honestly I think they used the European promotion to shift these phones with slightly subpar displays. Btw, I think you are overrating Sony's screens. They are known for the same issues I noticed on this Honor 7, even on their flagships.
I noticed this also but it happened to me after I removed stock "screen protector" and replaced with Nilkin tempered glass. I quess stock screen protector somehow filtered grid away.
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I noticed this also but it happened to me after I removed stock "screen protector" and replaced with Nilkin tempered glass. I quess stock screen protector somehow filtered grid away.
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I still have stock screen protector and also see it. I guess its just coincidence you noticed only after installing Nillkin.
I am very critcal when it comes to display, both with computers and smaller screens. Had there been a visible grid on my H7 I would have seen it, no doubt at all. I never could stand the Sony Trinitron support wires at the old CRT monitors, and a lot of people.never saw them!
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Can't really think of a touchscreen phone I have owned where I couldn't see the digitiser at some point, at the right angle, in the right light.
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Can't really think of a touchscreen phone I have owned where I couldn't see the digitiser at some point, at the right angle, in the right light.
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I thougt we were talking about when it bothers you, not when you have to set it up in a lab to see it!
I havent seen the grid under normal use so far, if I see it under very special scrutiny, well, let it go!
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I thougt we were talking about when it bothers you, not when you have to set it up in a lab to see it!
I havent seen the grid under normal use so far, if I see it under very special scrutiny, well, let it go!
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I noticed it within 5 seconds of taking the phone out of the box when the screen was tilted towards a light bulb. The digitizier of the Honor 7 seems unique in that it's very visible in artificial indoor lighting.
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I noticed it within 5 seconds of taking the phone out of the box when the screen was tilted towards a light bulb. The digitizier of the Honor 7 seems unique in that it's very visible in artificial indoor lighting.
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You must clearly, no doubt, have an other screen/digitizer combo than I have, that's for sure!
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I thougt we were talking about when it bothers you, not when you have to set it up in a lab to see it!
I havent seen the grid under normal use so far, if I see it under very special scrutiny, well, let it go!
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I don't think you understood my post. I was saying I've seen them on all phones I've owned with touchscreens..... As long as the phone is in the 'perfect' combination of light and angle etc. In other words i was saying it is ridiculous for people to be complaining or thinking it os an 'issue'.
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I don't think you understood my post. I was saying I've seen them on all phones I've owned with touchscreens..... As long as the phone is in the 'perfect' combination of light and angle etc. In other words i was saying it is ridiculous for people to be complaining or thinking it os an 'issue'.
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Sorry, yes I did not get your intended message then! [emoji4]
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I don't think you understood my post. I was saying I've seen them on all phones I've owned with touchscreens..... As long as the phone is in the 'perfect' combination of light and angle etc. In other words i was saying it is ridiculous for people to be complaining or thinking it os an 'issue'.
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I have several phones and never seen the digitizer except in bright sunlight. With the Honor 7 I noticed it indoors immediately. Even checking side by side now in same conditions, I can't see the digitizer on any of them except the Honor 7. The screen looks like it has a texture to it when light hits it, not like the usual barely noticeable digitizer pattern. I agree that its not really an issue though, more of an observation.
I think honor 7 is one of the best phones I have had for this. I have just spent a few moments trying to see it and can't. I have always been able to see it before. I still have the supplied protector on also, if that makes a difference.
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I think honor 7 is one of the best phones I have had for this. I have just spent a few moments trying to see it and can't. I have always been able to see it before. I still have the supplied protector on also, if that makes a difference.
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Check indoors at night time. Also at night it is visible with high brightness on white background, it you look closely.
Yes, your right, I can see them too.. But I had to put the display INTO my eyes that I was able to see them.. :silly:
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Yes, your right, I can see them too.. But I had to put the display INTO my eyes that I was able to see them.. :silly:
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Well.. into your eyes for straight ahead but tilted at light you can see from normal distance. It is minor issue though. I'm more annoyed with my dead pixel
When I saw your post I started looking for it, with different angles, different lights, etc... I can't see it !
I remember that it was sometimes visible on my Galaxy Note 2 and LG G3, but only with intense sunlight so I'll look again on the Honor 7 next summer I guess
I think the general product quality is the main factor, for example, I often see it (even indoors) on my Onda V989, which is a 130$ chinese tablet. (The tablet is great, but the screen has a weak max brightness).
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When I saw your post I started looking for it, with different angles, different lights, etc... I can't see it !
I remember that it was sometimes visible on my Galaxy Note 2 and LG G3, but only with intense sunlight so I'll look again on the Honor 7 next summer I guess
I think the general product quality is the main factor, for example, I often see it (even indoors) on my Onda V989, which is a 130$ chinese tablet. (The tablet is great, but the screen has a weak max brightness).
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It is very different looking than any other digitizer, so maybe you are looking for the wrong thing. It is not dots, and not a normal digitizer pattern. It looks more like a light texture on the screen. In daylight it creates a rainbow effect.
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It is very different looking than any other digitizer, so maybe you are looking for the wrong thing. It is not dots, and not a normal digitizer pattern. It looks more like a light texture on the screen. In daylight it creates a rainbow effect.
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I'll check as soon as possible !
Dear,
I just got my Moto 360. It functions perfectly fine,
however the back of the watch seems to push against the display..
Is this a bad thing of is this just normal?
Hope to hear something. Maybe it's a bad unit so I can return it.
Thanks in advance
meaning you see some LCD liquid on the display if you move a certain way? normal with these. it's so tight together that if i push the left side of the watch against my wrist, i see some discoloration. that's just how all LCD's are. the panels seem softer than AMOLED, which never does that.
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meaning you see some LCD liquid on the display if you move a certain way? normal with these. it's so tight together that if i push the left side of the watch against my wrist, i see some discoloration. that's just how all LCD's are. the panels seem softer than AMOLED, which never does that.
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Thanks, that really helped my understad it!
Other question though,
I have the shiney silver edition, If i scratch the bezel ( that shiney little round thingy)
Is there any sort of thing I can 'wipe' this with?
( I think I saw someting familiar with the apple watch.. )
not sure, maybe some chrome polish? I have the silver too and i'm scared to scratch it lol
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not sure, maybe some chrome polish? I have the silver too and i'm scared to scratch it lol
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Just one more question,
Do you also have those purple round things in the left corners of the screen? (only if you wear the watch..)
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Just one more question,
Do you also have those purple round things in the left corners of the screen? (only if you wear the watch..)
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Get it replaced if you still can - they should not be like this. I have no evidence of the back of the screen being pushed against on mine, and it certainly should not be visible simply when wearing the watch (and I wear mine very tight).
I'm also seeing this on my watch. If I push against the back of the watch I also see some discoloration. So this is normal???