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Hello!!
I have just purchased a Galaxy 2 and it should arrive Friday or Monday.
I have been using the N900 for around 18 months and absolutely love the FREEDOM of a full Linux stack (Maemo).
Got too old and slow.
Upgrade time. SGS2 time!
Now. Rooting looks relatively easy, but why do you guys install custom roms?
Also, if anyone here can help with a small side question, the N900 has a FULL xterm with all available commands (/bin).
How do I go about getting such commands under android?
On Maemo it was as easy as "apt-get install //missing-command//"
I installed bash on my NItdroid (android on n900) but there are a few commands not available. Nothing special, just things like "history" and Possibly "nano" etc.
I had virtually zero commands on my old Xperia X10 (rooted), which is why I went back to N900. I'm a terminal geek!
Im used to having full Linux repo's.
I can build custom kernels for N900 and other Omap 3 and Omap 4 devices, but they are u-boot kernels, so I have to start learning again!!
Also, is there a terminal program which is green text on black background?? I can only find white on blue! YUCK! not nearly nerdy enough!
More often than not custom ROM's offer much better battery life and are faster and have many many added features which stock ROM's do not have, also most custom ROM's will not have Samsung bloatware in them which again will save you much battery,you can if you wish apply some themes on custom ROM's,the list is endless.
kingoddball said:
Hello!!
I have just purchased a Galaxy 2 and it should arrive Friday or Monday.
I have been using the N900 for around 18 months and absolutely love the FREEDOM of a full Linux stack (Maemo).
Got too old and slow.
Upgrade time. SGS2 time!
Now. Rooting looks relatively easy, but why do you guys install custom roms?
Also, if anyone here can help with a small side question, the N900 has a FULL xterm with all available commands (/bin).
How do I go about getting such commands under android?
On Maemo it was as easy as "apt-get install //missing-command//"
I installed bash on my NItdroid (android on n900) but there are a few commands not available. Nothing special, just things like "history" and Possibly "nano" etc.
I had virtually zero commands on my old Xperia X10 (rooted), which is why I went back to N900. I'm a terminal geek!
Im used to having full Linux repo's.
I can build custom kernels for N900 and other Omap 3 and Omap 4 devices, but they are u-boot kernels, so I have to start learning again!!
Also, is there a terminal program which is green text on black background?? I can only find white on blue! YUCK! not nearly nerdy enough!
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How's it going? I was on the N900 as well (still use it as my music player) and have recently moved on to the SGS2. speed wise it is miles apart! even thouse the Maemo repos have excellent apps, you do notice the lack of commercial apps for Maemo when using Android
i'm not sure if i have all the answers you require... a simple way to compare custom and regular ROMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219612
Rooting your SGS2 isnt as easy as typing "root" on the N900... you'll have to use CF Root with CWM (i think):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
and a list of useful Root/ROM links at Android Forums:
http://androidforums.com/galaxy-s2-...guide-updated-12-00-pm-bst-jul-03-2011-a.html
i hope this helps
Thank you both. I'm not really a commercial app/program person.
I'm an active open source user. I love to modify and help with programs. I don't really like apple style control over programs.
I'm going to check those links. Thanks!
I hope I can try bring some of the work I made for Maemo over to android.
Most (90%) is terminal based, seems like droid users love the GUI stuff. Hehehe!
Well I will differ from Post 2. A custom ROM will bring more juice from battery? I don't believe it. It can definitely fix some bugs what the Stock one has, but nothing more than that. Also keep in mind there will be some glitch here and there in a Custom ROM.
I, personally, will never use a Custom ROM.
Regards.
kingoddball said:
Also, if anyone here can help with a small side question, the N900 has a FULL xterm with all available commands (/bin).
How do I go about getting such commands under android?
On Maemo it was as easy as "apt-get install //missing-command//"
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nope, in general this doesn't exist. you have a linux kernel with busybox (assuming you install this along with su), but afaik, that is the limit of what you might expect from a distro. All the apps are running in the android environment, unless you wanted to chroot into something like ubuntu. Whilst I suspect there are some distros that are close to running on an android phone (or netbook, like the ac100) you're no longer running android then.
Try
SL4A (Scripting Layer for Android) as a terminal emulator (shell python etc) and it is fully open source.
ithehappy said:
Well I will differ from Post 2. A custom ROM will bring more juice from battery? I don't believe it. It can definitely fix some bugs what the Stock one has, but nothing more than that. Also keep in mind there will be some glitch here and there in a Custom ROM.
I, personally, will never use a Custom ROM.
Regards.
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so then you, personally, will never know the difference between custom and stock. and yes, you can get better battery life with a custom rom. even a customized stock rom. with my infuse on infused 1.5 i got about 10-15% better battery life over stock.
boondoc said:
so then you, personally, will never know the difference between custom and stock. and yes, you can get better battery life with a custom rom. even a customized stock rom. with my infuse on infused 1.5 i got about 10-15% better battery life over stock.
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You answered by yourself.
That's what I meant anyway.
Regards.
there wasn't a question at hand to be answered...
Bit like why do people buy different cars .
Custom rom may add something or remove something from the phone is the basics .
jje
I found from flashing HTC Desire, that the cries of better battery life and performance on custom ROM's were generally over exaggeration or complete nonsense, as I tried loads of custom roms and the battery and performance remained the same throughout.
For this phone, my battery life is awesome anyway, and performance is awesome also. I also seem to be pretty much bug free, also
As for the technical questions and what not in this thread it's also gone over my head lol!
I for one will vouch for better battery and performance for custom roms. It only takes one disabled service/application to improve both categories.
Custom ROM's also add features you won't find in stock ROM's and arguably enhance existing features.
For example there is no reboot function on a stock ROM, but this is just one example. CM7 has a plethora of enhancements that simply rock, on the flip side there is still a few kinks it needs to work out, but with Cyanogen joining the samsung team it wont be long until a production phone comes out with CMx running on it.
You can just install 'Advanced Power Menu' for Reboot feature on a Stock ROM.
Altimas said:
I for one will vouch for better battery and performance for custom roms. It only takes one disabled service/application to improve both categories.
Custom ROM's also add features you won't find in stock ROM's and arguably enhance existing features.
For example there is no reboot function on a stock ROM, but this is just one example. CM7 has a plethora of enhancements that simply rock, on the flip side there is still a few kinks it needs to work out, but with Cyanogen joining the samsung team it wont be long until a production phone comes out with CMx running on it.
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I am interested in all of the benefits of using a custom ROM (especially theming) but what about the drawbacks? Don't you lose the optimizations that take advantage of the CPU/GPU?
What else would I be missing out on? I've been trying to find a thread dealing with this topic but am still searching.
.Arkham said:
I am interested in all of the benefits of using a custom ROM (especially theming) but what about the drawbacks? Don't you lose the optimizations that take advantage of the CPU/GPU?
What else would I be missing out on? I've been trying to find a thread dealing with this topic but am still searching.
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Their is no thread as their is no custom rom but many custom roms all with different features .
Why would you lose optimizations unless the custom rom developer decided to remove them and that would not really make sense .
The benefits of using a custom rom are that you can choose one with the features you required .
jje
JJEgan said:
Their is no thread as their is no custom rom but many custom roms all with different features .
Why would you lose optimizations unless the custom rom developer decided to remove them and that would not really make sense .
The benefits of using a custom rom are that you can choose one with the features you required .
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I know there's no single thread, what I meant was that it was hard to get the info about what the tradeoffs are of using various ROMs.
E.g. some do not have hardware acceleration (browser, video), and others don't let you use the stock app, etc... I've seen that some of the ROMs have made headway and do have hardware acceleration, but that seems to be the exception to the rule.
The only real alternative ROM is Cyanogenmod anyway. Any other rom is just some settings changed with notepad and some icons changed with photoshop.
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I know there's no single thread, what I meant was that it was hard to get the info about what the tradeoffs are of using various ROMs.
E.g. some do not have hardware acceleration (browser, video), and others don't let you use the stock app, etc... I've seen that some of the ROMs have made headway and do have hardware acceleration, but that seems to be the exception to the rule.
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Yeah you wont lose a thing, just gives you a chance to add more try leomars revolution rom, it got its own kitchen apo in market so you can install tweaks and themes from the app !
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You use custom roms if you think your cellphone isn't amazingly fast enough or if you think four buttons at the lower panel is to iPhone-ish. I personally love Samsung bloatware...
I had started a thread I just got the official ICS Upgrade
In that thread some had indicated that a custom ROM should
be used and not the the official ICS Upgrade from AT&T.
In an effort to not get that thread of track i will ask here:
What is the real difference with the AT&T Official ICS ROM and the Custom ROMs?
I am fully aware AT&T has loaded a bunch of junk in,
and I went through and disables and deleted much of it.
But what truly is so awful about it?
And if it truly is so bad, what is the "Correct" ROM to use?
Thank you
No such thing as correct or incorrect, it is all personal taste. Some might like one ROM over another. Does that make it better than another? Nope.
Take cars for example. Some people like to leave it stock. Some might like to increase its performance and add engine modifications. Some might like it to handle the roads better so they might upgrade its suspension. Others might like to change its appearance and paint it and add body-kits. Is one car better than the other? Depends on who you ask.
Harry_Y said:
I had started a thread I just got the official ICS Upgrade
In that thread some had indicated that a custom ROM should
be used and not the the official ICS Upgrade from AT&T.
In an effort to not get that thread of track i will ask here:
What is the real difference with the AT&T Official ICS ROM and the Custom ROMs?
I am fully aware AT&T has loaded a bunch of junk in,
and I went through and disables and deleted much of it.
But what truly is so awful about it?
And if it truly is so bad, what is the "Correct" ROM to use?
Thank you
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This thread will get real out of hand.
But before it dissapears. the main reason most of us say its bad, is with the history of At&t's releases. They mess stuff up, have issues within the kernals, and a big BIG issue with them right now that w/o source, we dont know if its fixed.
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gsrrr said:
No such thing as correct or incorrect, it is all personal taste. Some might like one ROM over another. Does that make it better than another? Nope. .
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not taste/opinion in the fact(from their history) that the coding is a mess. and broken everywhere.
You come to a developer forum to run fully stock?
That's what goes through my head when I see people afraid of flashing.
If you want the AT&T firmware at least wait for somebody to post a debloated version since your going to disable them anyways or actually learn how to do it yourself. Since you have access to the forum with so much information.
Maybe take it 1 step further and grab the AT&T firmware and customize it to your liking, you don't even have to post it just use it.
This isn't a great thread cause Versus threads go nowhere...
MotoMudder77 said:
This thread will get real out of hand.
But before it dissapears. the main reason most of us say its bad, is with the history of At&t's releases.
They mess stuff up, have issues within the kernals, and a big BIG issue with them right now that w/o source, we dont know if its fixed.
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Thank you
Harry_Y said:
I had started a thread I just got the official ICS Upgrade
In that thread some had indicated that a custom ROM should
be used and not the the official ICS Upgrade from AT&T.
In an effort to not get that thread of track i will ask here:
What is the real difference with the AT&T Official ICS ROM and the Custom ROMs?
I am fully aware AT&T has loaded a bunch of junk in,
and I went through and disables and deleted much of it.
But what truly is so awful about it?
And if it truly is so bad, what is the "Correct" ROM to use?
Thank you
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Dude. Do the math. You're posting in a development forum that strives on customizing, building, and creating custom sh$t for our devices. Why would you think that 90% of the people here are looking for and using custom roms?
gsrrr said:
No such thing as correct or incorrect, it is all personal taste.
Some might like one ROM over another. Does that make it better than another? Nope.
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I can appreciate people wanting to customize their devices.
That being said customizing just for the sake of customizing is not really
of interest to me; Increased functionality or an issue being corrected is.
So the real question for me would be what real issues with the
Stock ROM get corrected? and what Real features get added.
Thank you
task650 said:
Dude. Do the math. You're posting in a development forum that strives on customizing, building, and creating custom sh$t for our devices. Why would you think that 90% of the people here are looking for and using custom roms?
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I fully understand that, I also realize people get emotionally attached to things.
What I'm trying to learn is what is the Real advantage with the custom ROM.
Thank you
Harry_Y said:
I fully understand that, I also realize people get emotionally attached to things.
What I'm trying to learn is what is the Real advantage with the custom ROM.
Thank you
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Go to the dev section, pick a random rom thread and look at the features.
That is just an example of what is beneficial.
Harry_Y said:
I fully understand that, I also realize people get emotionally attached to things.
What I'm trying to learn is what is the Real advantage with the custom ROM.
Thank you
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There are many different things. Mods add to the functionality of the phone. Take the 14 toggle mod for instance, no need to enter settings to change common things. Skip tracks with volume buttons. You can also increase battery life with various kernels by UV/uc. It allows you to make your phone function and do what you want it to. The stock firmware is too limiting in this ability
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Harry_Y said:
I can appreciate people wanting to customize their devices.
That being said customizing just for the sake of customizing is not really
of interest to me; Increased functionality or an issue being corrected is.
So the real question for me would be what real issues with the
Stock ROM get corrected? and what Real features get added.
Thank you
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Of course there is an increase in functionality or else why would devs create custom ROMs. What each ROM has that differs from others are listed in their respective threads. Check it out and see if any interest you. If you are satisfied with stock, stay stock. Not a big deal.
LiLChris06 said:
You come to a developer forum to run fully stock?
That's what goes through my head when I see people afraid of flashing.
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Honestly, I used to hang around here for the community - but that's quickly turning me into a simple lurker.
I'm extremely interested in the developers work. However, I find that the stock factory firmwares are every bit as good or stable as anything that gets turned out in the dev areas. The stock ROMs also do everything I need and want. Plus, I don't like AOSP Android, and that seems to be what everybody is focusing on these days. Also, the 3rd party roms generally have too much changed, removed or added for my tastes.
Edit: Oh, and while I generally like the OEMs code, I have no problem using a good 3rd party kernel.
AT&T releases are typically buggy. The developers here either fix those bugs, or use firmware bases from the international version that are more robust and stable. It is too early to know what bugs this UCLE5 release may contain, but the original AT&T UCKH7 firmware had lockscreen security issues, the official AT&T update UCKK6 broken bluetooth hid and serious power management issues. The AT&T ICS leaks leading up to this version, UCLD3 and UCLD4 had a very serious flaw in the kernel which caused several people with the I777 to lose their device due to eMMC chip damage. Since the kernel source code for the current official AT&T UCLE5 has not been released yet, it is not possible to confirm that the kernel supplied with the UCLE5 release is free of this serious issue. Therefore, it would be advisable to either not run this firmware, or use a modified rooted version in which the kernel is replaced with a known safe kernel.
creepyncrawly said:
AT&T releases are typically buggy. The developers here either fix those bugs, or use firmware bases from the international version that are more robust and stable. It is too early to know what bugs this UCLE5 release may contain, but the original AT&T UCKH7 firmware had lockscreen security issues, the official AT&T update UCKK6 broken bluetooth hid and serious power management issues. The AT&T ICS leaks leading up to this version, UCLD3 and UCLD4 had a very serious flaw in the kernel which caused several people with the I777 to lose their device due to eMMC chip damage. Since the kernel source code for the current official AT&T UCLE5 has not been released yet, it is not possible to confirm that the kernel supplied with the UCLE5 release is free of this serious issue. Therefore, it would be advisable to either not run this firmware, or use a modified rooted version in which the kernel is replaced with a known safe kernel.
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Thank you for a very clear explanation.
raduque said:
Honestly, I used to hang around here for the community - but that's quickly turning me into a simple lurker.
I'm extremely interested in the developers work. However, I find that the stock factory firmwares are every bit as good or stable as anything that gets turned out in the dev areas. The stock ROMs also do everything I need and want. Plus, I don't like AOSP Android, and that seems to be what everybody is focusing on these days. Also, the 3rd party roms generally have too much changed, removed or added for my tastes.
Edit: Oh, and while I generally like the OEMs code, I have no problem using a good 3rd party kernel.
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you definitely haven't been running an android device if you say this (marked in BOLD). Considering the fact that for our device in particular, they have released BS that is not only buggy as hell, but has bricked a ton of devices. I think you should probably do a little research before making such bold comments. :laugh:
I got board enough to try the full LE5 including kernel. So far better than D4 and previous ics. Tegrak works as it does on the 9100 base kernels so that tells me i777 is catching up or has caught up. Could be just odex, but all benchmarks higher than on any of the aokp or 9100 sammy roms I've tried.
I'd like to see someone customize this if it remains stable. I've added 15 toggle from other roms, but I jusy like having firmware meant for device.
I-777 UCLE5
Tegrak oc/uv 1.452 ghz
Stable & Fast
task650 said:
you definitely haven't been running an android device if you say this (marked in BOLD). Considering the fact that for our device in particular, they have released BS that is not only buggy as hell, but has bricked a ton of devices. I think you should probably do a little research before making such bold comments. :laugh:
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lol
I've been running Android devices and flashing firmwares since 2009.
I also haven't seen any of the bugs or issues mentioned on this forum. Doesn't mean they don't exist. The stock 2.3 rom that came with my GS2 from AT&T was amazingly, impressively stable compared to what came with my Vibrant, or even ANY of the community roms for it.
UCLE5 bug:
unable to use wide image for wallpaper, so you can only get a fixed wallpaper, not a scrolling wallpaper. This bug was present in the leaks, and has not been fixed in the official release.
creepyncrawly said:
UCLE5 bug:
unable to use wide image for wallpaper, so you can only get a fixed wallpaper, not a scrolling wallpaper. This bug was present in the leaks, and has not been fixed in the official release.
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IMO, non issue.
raduque said:
IMO, non issue.
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Yes, many would not care. Many would. Ask AT&T or Samsung, and they will probably say it is a feature.
My question is plain and simple. I mean, I do know the benefits of rooting like backing up apps, removing bloatware, over/underclocking and so on. But in my own experience rooting the device and putting a custom rom in it automatically made the device less stable and more battery hungry (for some weird reason) plus added many many bugs which made me question why did I do it in the first place. So I'm asking do you feel any improvement whatsoever while using any custom rom? Or do you use custom rom just because you can?
It has thousans of reasons.. For simple example while every unrooted users rumor "when will come jely bean? I'm tired of waiting!!" Etc.. i run 4.1.1 jely bean on my SGS3 for 3 months.. its enough.
If you like always research for better and better mobile experience, you have to root your phone. Or simply just say yes for your brand's supply.
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lolkoz said:
My question is plain and simple. I mean, I do know the benefits of rooting like backing up apps, removing bloatware, over/underclocking and so on. But in my own experience rooting the device and putting a custom rom in it automatically made the device less stable and more battery hungry (for some weird reason) plus added many many bugs which made me question why did I do it in the first place. So I'm asking do you feel any improvement whatsoever while using any custom rom? Or do you use custom rom just because you can?
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since everbody is aware that customization can happen better with a custom rom over and above the stock one.
and regarding improvement, well it all depends on what sort of customization u need and accordingly the Custom rom and kernel u choose. which do vary from person to person.
and nobody use custom rom because they can but because they need the same to customize the phone accordingly to there need.
lolkoz said:
My question is plain and simple. I mean, I do know the benefits of rooting like backing up apps, removing bloatware, over/underclocking and so on. But in my own experience rooting the device and putting a custom rom in it automatically made the device less stable and more battery hungry (for some weird reason) plus added many many bugs which made me question why did I do it in the first place. So I'm asking do you feel any improvement whatsoever while using any custom rom? Or do you use custom rom just because you can?
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From my experience with my HTC Desire on which I tried a lot of different ROMs you can either:
1) Flash a stable ROM, benefit is that most of the time its faster than stock & includes additional features and is 99% stable. In addition ROMs are improved all the time and new features added that you might not get on your stock ROM or only very late
2) Flash a ROM that is currently under development and not stable, e.g. earlier ICS ROMs for the HTC Desire had features missing and were not very stable
In my case I started with stable ROMs as I need my phone as daily driver, after I got more experienced I switched to (2) and tried the not so stable ROMs as I always like to try new things etc. and you will get all those new features and improvements (sometimes on the cost of stability and or speed).
Basically up to you what you want to do.
For my Galaxy S III I will also start with a rooted stock ROM as currently I do not see that much benefits in the custom ROMs yet (please correct me if I am wrong).
The answer is also plain and simple. Rooting is to unlock your phone for more customisation and some extra features.
Why we need more customisation and extra features? Because we get bored easily and because we can.
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There is a really good article you can read here.
You just get so much more with root. Without root i would have been stock with stock rom on my htc desire and my xoom. The brilliant roms that are on here have provided me with so much more and given me an amazing experience with android.
I know that generally speaking, opinion-threads aren't highly looked upon here.
That said, I am not asking, "What ROM is your favorite?" I am looking here to find a ROM that meets a certain set of criteria, and am finding it difficult to do so with the way that things are organized here.
These criteria, in order, are:
Stable
Quick
Good Battery Life
Featureful
So in other words, while I would love for it to have the most modern, high-end KitKat features available, I would not want to make big sacrifices to battery life for their sake. I would not want to make big sacrifices to the fluidity for battery life, and I would not want to make big sacrifices to the stability for speed.
So my question is: what ROMs meet these criteria best? Not what roms are the best -- what ROMs best meet these criteria?
De-bloated stock.
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De-bloated stock.
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Debloated stock what?
Gingerbread, Ice Cream Sandwich, Jellybean. Probably JB to have the latest drivers and memory management.
This is solely my personal opinion, I would recommend that you try out a couple ROMs and decide for yourself, but the two that I immediately was reminded of when I read your "criteria" is
Padawan JB V4
Sons of Android
I hope you find what you're looking for.
phnord said:
Debloated stock what?
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In addition rooted of course, F-Droid and a framework to install various modules to add even more features.
P/S
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MadnessG said:
This is solely my personal opinion, I would recommend that you try out a couple ROMs and decide for yourself..
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See, this is the thing that I don't get: when I try to install a new ROM, it is a lengthy process with lots of bugs and quirks along the way, usually, and lots of time invested to actually get the ROM fully running. Transferring old apps, SMS, contacts, call logs, working out the bugs that you encounter along the way and then fine tuning the settings of the ROM... it takes many, many hours for me.
Hence usually once I go through all of that effort, the thought of throwing it all away and trying something else seems bafflingly overwhelming to me.
Am I missing something?
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See, this is the thing that I don't get: when I try to install a new ROM, it is a lengthy process with lots of bugs and quirks along the way, usually, and lots of time invested to actually get the ROM fully running. Transferring old apps, SMS, contacts, call logs, working out the bugs that you encounter along the way and then fine tuning the settings of the ROM... it takes many, many hours for me.
Hence usually once I go through all of that effort, the thought of throwing it all away and trying something else seems bafflingly overwhelming to me.
Am I missing something?
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Most of that is done for me once I put in my gmail account. Except for sms. As far as bugs, are you flashing clean, cause there really arent that many bugs, or at least nothing that sohould be a suprise.
When I try a new rom, I go to the last post and start reading backwards. This makes you aware of the most recent problems and if there is a fix. If its more than I want to deal with, I dont bother.
But I do understand, it can seem like such a chore......sometimes
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In my personal opinion the most stable, battery life for use dialy is the NOVENA and PADAWAN v8 using ICS
For those that have bumped and install a rom, which one? Before I spend a lot of time flashing, which one is the most stable and has good battery life? Don't care about too many visual mods, I like a stock looking rom with behind the scenes tweaks.
Both are great. Stability and battery life are good on both.
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For those that have bumped and install a rom, which one? Before I spend a lot of time flashing, which one is the most stable and has good battery life? Don't care about too many visual mods, I like a stock looking rom with behind the scenes tweaks.
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Their both similar, sacs used barren rom as his base. Sacs just incorporated xposed mod into the settings menu along with greenify, g3 tweakbox, head ups notification, and clean master.
You can flash either rom, then flash data from stock nandroid, worked every time so far
careful with these kind of threads feelings can get hurt. Nuclear wars can be started. Learn from my mistake.
just remember that asking which rom is "the best" is punitive and not always a dependable source for info on how a rom will run on your phone... believe it or not each g3 is slightly unique and not equal to others. One rom could run great on one g3 and give you tons of force closes and even bootloops on yours even while seemingly installed correctly. Best method is to take 5 minutes, make a backup of whatever is stable and working and flash the new rom and see. If it's crap, check your work(install steps) and if still not right nandroid and try another rom. Profit.
Well I hope feelings don't get hurt, sacs is based off of barren so it should be very similar. Running sacs for a few days then I'll switch over to barren and see how it goes. Only change I made with sacs is turned off his battery mod and went back to stock.
Not bashing anyone's ROM, but sac is a dedicated dev and makes some stellar roms. I can't imagine barren being bad if sac used it as a base. You can't go wrong with either at this point. Just watch and see how things develop now that the ball is finally rolling.
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Just flash both and see which one works best for you. Coming from the S3 I've flashed every single build for the d2LTE . It's all trial and error in this world.
I'm using Barren. It's essentially the stock experience with enough apps removed to make the app tray a single screen. It's got all of the basic under-the-hood tweaks you can do without going AOSP. It's smooth as butter, light, nimble, and highly customizable. Put on Titanium and you can strip off even more bloat. It's a seriously dope ROM. I haven't used Sacs, but if its based off Barren like someone said, then it's gonna be good in my book. So, I'm a Barren Advocate just because it's great standing alone, and doesn't need more, but more couldn't hurt ^_^
I've flashed both and I like the feel of Barren better. So smooth, and engine95 is always tweaking things. The no aux out zip is pretty amazing.