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Hey guys!
I was fiddling around with our sensors tonight and I figured out the magnetometer is working in our device.
So I researched the Market and found an exciting application called Magnet Unlocker.
This application supports a lot of different ways to lock/unlock a device. Including with the use of a magnetic field.
Anyways, I did a lot of settings options and I cannot for the life of me get the application to both use Lock and Unlock, the unlock/lock processes get's jammed up in each other and starts to lock/unlock within seconds of eachother, so I basically use only unlock, since that's the most handy when I look at it. The device can still turn off by itself after a set time due to lacking user interaction.
With the settings I give you here, I have at least made the tablet turn on when the lid is flipped off the screen. The built-in dispay off setting is taking care of turning off the screen(in my case 1 minute after I close the lid)
So I present to you a small image guide on how to reach optimal settings.
I hope this is useful to you.
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Nice find!
For those willing to spend a few minutes, I was able to get both cover Lock and Unlock working quite easily with Tasker and Secure Settings (Paid + Free). Secure Settings is needed since Tasker cannot turn on the screen in Android 2.3+.
To Lock:
Create a new Profile, State, Sensor, Magnetic Field. Press Scan and have a look at the value when the cover is nearly closed (you can peek under the cover). A value of 285+ works fine for me so far. So set From '285' and To 'Any'.
For the Exit Task, Display, System Lock.
To Unlock:
Same as before, just use the lower range: From '0' To '284' for me. (or you can use Invert)
For the Exit Task, Plugin, Secure Settings. Hit the pencil for Configuration and choose Wake Device. I then used Screen Dim and 5 seconds, but these are up to you. Press Save and you are done!
EDIT: I added a variable check to keep it from running constantly. I think it still needs a little work, things are a bit wonky, but get you get the idea. When it locks, set %CASE to CLOSED. In order to unlock, it must then read %CASE as CLOSED, before setting it to OPEN.
Profile: Case Unlock (4)
State: Magnetic Field [ Axis:All From:0 To:284 ]
State: Variable Value [ Name:%CASE Op:Matches Value:CLOSED ]
Enter: Anon (5)
A1: Secure Settings [ Configuration:Screen Dim
5 Seconds Package:com.intangibleobject.securesettings.plugin Name:Secure Settings Timeout (Seconds):0 ]
A2: Variable Set [ Name:%CASE To: OPEN Do Maths: Off Append: Off ]
Profile: Case Lock (2)
State: Magnetic Field [ Axis:All From:285 To:Any ]
State: Variable Value [ Name:%CASE Op:Matches Value: OPEN ]
Enter: Anon (3)
A1: System Lock
A2: Variable Set [ Name:%CASE To:CLOSED Do Maths: Off Append: Off ]
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You also might want to disable Run In Foreground from Settings - Monitor - General if you don't want to see a notification all the time.
Happy Smart Covering! :highfive:
Very cool find, one issue I am having though (I have the IVSO case) is that I have a stronger magnet field when the case is open (and the cover is flipped all the way around to the backside of the device) than when the case is closed lol. This is annoying because I would rather it to lock the screen and then use light or knock knock to turn the screen back on lol. If you have any ideas please share!
Edit: Didn't see the post about tasker. I'm going to try that now since I already use tasker for a lot of things!
colwellkr said:
Very cool find, one issue I am having though (I have the IVSO case) is that I have a stronger magnet field when the case is open (and the cover is flipped all the way around to the backside of the device) than when the case is closed lol. This is annoying because I would rather it to lock the screen and then use light or knock knock to turn the screen back on lol. If you have any ideas please share!
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Really?? I have the IVSO case as well, and mine is much lower flipped around (~160 vs 330). That's weird. Does the smart cover work on stock?
You could try the method I describe with Tasker (no need for Secure Settings if not turning screen on) and set a small To and From window that just corresponds to your lid being shut. Maybe you need a delay to check twice to ensure it isn't accidentally triggered by the cover flapping while open.
To what degree do these fixes affect battery life?
mzfckr993 said:
To what degree do these fixes affect battery life?
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While I have no idea (just made the script), I would hope not any more than other implementations like the stock LG method? :fingers-crossed:
ViperPyro said:
Really?? I have the IVSO case as well, and mine is much lower flipped around (~160 vs 330). That's weird. Does the smart cover work on stock?
You could try the method I describe with Tasker (no need for Secure Settings if not turning screen on) and set a small To and From window that just corresponds to your lid being shut. Maybe you need a delay to check twice to ensure it isn't accidentally triggered by the cover flapping while open.
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Yeah it was weird in magnet unlocker I had higher values for open than closed. But I got it working perfectly in tasker, so thank a million! And I have no idea if my cover works on stock because I bought the cover after I put cm11 on it.
mzfckr993 said:
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These should not impact your battery life too much since the sensors are almost always on anyway as far as I can tell.
It seems that the values of the sensor vary greatly depending on the area; this means that in some places it works perfectly, but in others it won't respond at all. Could there be any way to input relative values of the magnetic sensor in Tasker as opposed to absolute values or some other way to mend this?
colwellkr said:
Very cool find, one issue I am having though (I have the IVSO case) is that I have a stronger magnet field when the case is open (and the cover is flipped all the way around to the backside of the device) than when the case is closed lol. This is annoying because I would rather it to lock the screen and then use light or knock knock to turn the screen back on lol. If you have any ideas please share!
Edit: Didn't see the post about tasker. I'm going to try that now since I already use tasker for a lot of things!
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This was exactly why I only used one of the settings. The sensor is highly unstable and in certain occasions it decides to "double" the magnetic field. Sometimes I'm at like 400 when the lid is open and 800 when closed, should be only 4-500 when closed. It is based highly on situation. I'm sticking with the screen on function only. But thanks for the Tasker config as well. At least there's something now.
CuraeL said:
This was exactly why I only used one of the settings. The sensor is highly unstable and in certain occasions it decides to "double" the magnetic field. Sometimes I'm at like 400 when the lid is open and 800 when closed, should be only 4-500 when closed. It is based highly on situation. I'm sticking with the screen on function only. But thanks for the Tasker config as well. At least there's something now.
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Yeah I see what you mean. That is happening to me now. Case will be wide open but it will trigger the screen off function. Back to just one function indeed...
ViperPyro said:
Yeah I see what you mean. That is happening to me now. Case will be wide open but it will trigger the screen off function. Back to just one function indeed...
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Do you leave the cover open just hanging off the side or do you flip it all the way around behind? Since the magnet and sensor are on the side where the fold is I have found I have to flip it all the way around behind the tablet to keep the screen off from being triggered. But this is how I like holding the tablet anyway.
Magnet Unlocker and Tasker don't work for me. Magnet unlocker reads my magnetic field as 900 with the cover open and 18 when closed, so when I close the cover the device unlocks. Tasker works sometimes, but after some time the magnetic field goes above 1000 so tasker is useless.
I tried this on Madhi-Rom and it didn't work for me either. The magnetic sensor isn't working correctly and didn't give values that made any sense. I went back to stock and checked with the app and the sensor reports correctly.
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It works for me when I calibrate the magnetometer Sometimes the magnetometer does not work properly but after this method it works again. I can now lock and unlock the screen with my smart cover using tasker.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778131
Linus_BE said:
It works for me when I calibrate the magnetometer Sometimes the magnetometer does not work properly but after this method it works again. I can now lock and unlock the screen with my smart cover using tasker.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778131
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Unfortunately didn't work for me.
In the Google Play Edition, this feature works with no additional apks or need to tweak.
sleekmason said:
In the Google Play Edition, this feature works with no additional apks or need to tweak.
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Can you link me to this evidence please
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dsmitty166 said:
Can you link me to this evidence please
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maybe I am not aware of what you are really talking about. Are you talking about using a cover with a magnet to turn on and off your tablet? When you lift the lid it comes on when you shut the lid it goes into standby mode? Maybe I misunderstood what really taking place here. But if that is the case then yes I am using a ivso cover that hibernate my tablet just fine.
sleekmason said:
maybe I am not aware of what you are really talking about. Are you talking about using a cover with a magnet to turn on and off your tablet? When you lift the lid it comes on when you shut the lid it goes into standby mode? Maybe I misunderstood what really taking place here. But if that is the case then yes I am using a ivso cover that hibernate my tablet just fine.
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We are talking about making that feature work for the V500 running an AOSP ROM. It doesn't work by default so we are trying to figure out a way to make it work.
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sleekmason said:
maybe I am not aware of what you are really talking about. Are you talking about using a cover with a magnet to turn on and off your tablet? When you lift the lid it comes on when you shut the lid it goes into standby mode? Maybe I misunderstood what really taking place here. But if that is the case then yes I am using a ivso cover that hibernate my tablet just fine.
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So you have the v510?
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Anyone else having this issue? My spen will launch an app or type characters on the keyboard even when its 1/2 inch away from the screen.. Getting pretty frustrating. I see there's no ability to calibrate the spen either.
There is a way to calibrate the S-Pen over on the international note forum, haven't heard of anyone trying it here. Check it out n let us know if it works, I would but I can't have a note for another 3 months :c
International forum? I heard those guys are pretty rough.. Lol thanks for the tip!
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The spen "phantom" triggers the bottom right of my screen when using it while I'm lying on my back. It irritates the hell out of me.
I think it has to do with the combination of a faulty spen (the nib pushes on the pressure sensor when the pen is inverted) and a poorly calibrated screen.
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Personally, mine doesn't trigger easily enough for my taste. I have to push harder than I'd like to get it to register. Not "hard" per se, but hard enough that the pen almost wants to 'skip' instead of 'slide' across the screen when trying to navigate around. (Talking about the minimum pressure needed to engage swiping and touching, etc). Still completely usable, just wish that it was a wee bit more sensitive so I could just 'glide' the pen around lightly vs pushing it down while moving around.
I'm having the same problem. I just noticed it last night. I was using the s-pen and would get about 1/4" to the screen and it would select apps/options whatever. Kinda annoying
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Yes, I reported the same issue yesterday... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1511230
After exchanging my first Note, the second has the same problem, but over a smaller area. Unfortunately the area affected this time includes part of the keyboard and the bottom row of the launcher screen, so it makes life difficult when using the S Pen. I'll be exchanging this one too.
Anyone interested can check their device with the S Memo app. Just open a new memo and start waving the S pen over the screen surface about 1/4" above the screen. If you get brush marks on the screen without touching it I'd say there's a problem. And by doing this over the entire screen you can map the areas affected.
If you search YouTube for 'samsung galaxy note s pen problem' you'll find at least 4 international users who've posted videos on this problem.
I'm no expert, but I've experimented with other Wacom pens (I have two older tablet PCs), and neither of those pens exhibit this issue when used on the Note. It seems they only transmit when the pen nib is depressed. The S Pens transmit all the time... there doesn't seem to be a switch depressed by the nib. This system actually provides more sensitivity, such as scrolling screens with less pressure than required with the legacy Wacom pens. However, this increased sensitivity requires a perfectly calibrated digitizer over the entire screen to sense when the pen makes contact with the screen and I'm guessing that's where my problems are coming from. Hopefully the third time's the charm for me.
SteveD01 said:
Anyone interested can check their device with the S Memo app. Just open a new memo and start waving the S pen over the screen surface about 1/4" above the screen. If you get brush marks on the screen without touching it I'd say there's a problem. And by doing this over the entire screen you can map the areas affected.
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With the nub touching the screen, but applying no pressure, I moved it all around a new memo and didn't get any brush strokes. Is that a good test?
Yes, that's sounds good to me. That's the way my Note works with my older Wacom pens.
pj_rage said:
Personally, mine doesn't trigger easily enough for my taste. I have to push harder than I'd like to get it to register. Not "hard" per se, but hard enough that the pen almost wants to 'skip' instead of 'slide' across the screen when trying to navigate around. (Talking about the minimum pressure needed to engage swiping and touching, etc). Still completely usable, just wish that it was a wee bit more sensitive so I could just 'glide' the pen around lightly vs pushing it down while moving around.
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I'm kind of with ya on this, I wish mine was a little more sensitive. Although mine doesn't sound quite as bad as yours.
Truaim said:
Anyone else having this issue? My spen will launch an app or type characters on the keyboard even when its 1/2 inch away from the screen.. Getting pretty frustrating. I see there's no ability to calibrate the spen either.
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I think OP's pen is defective. When I press the tip of the pen inward (toward the pen) with my finger and hover over the screen, I get the behavior described - I can be 1/2" away from the screen and tap/draw. But if I don't press the tip of the pen, I have to touch the screen to register a tap. There is a very tiny amount of movement in the white nib, and it should be on a slight spring. Mine doesn't activate upside down either. Maybe someone jammed your pen into something and broke it?
hausman said:
... When I press the tip of the pen inward (toward the pen) with my finger and hover over the screen, I get the behavior described - I can be 1/2" away from the screen and tap/draw. But if I don't press the tip of the pen, I have to touch the screen to register a tap. There is a very tiny amount of movement in the white nib, and it should be on a slight spring. Mine doesn't activate upside down either. Maybe someone jammed your pen into something and broke it?
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You're right... I get the same behavior by pressing the nib anywhere over the screen. However, on these defective devices the S Pen still activates the screen in certain areas even without pressing the nib. So I think the pens are probably working okay and it's the digitizer that has problems.
That's my point - the nib is probably broken in a permanently "pressed-in" state. I would suspect the tiny moving-part spring action of the pen before I'd suspect the solid-state digitizer.
AT&T has the spare pen and larger holder for $30, which is a deal considering they offer the spare pen alone for the same price, and Samsung sells the combo for $60. Or you could take it to a store and test the store pen (though based on my experience that would be more likely to be broken or stolen).
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That's my point - the nib is probably broken in a permanently "pressed-in" state. I would suspect the tiny moving-part spring action of the pen before I'd suspect the solid-state digitizer.
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Maybe this picture of a test memo will clarify the issue with my second Note. The S Pen never was close to the screen, at least 1/4" away. But the area of the defect is limited to just a small portion of the screen. So in this case it's not likely to be a permanently depressed nib, but a bad portion of the screen. I can't say what the OP's issue might be. (On my first Note, the bad area was larger and near the top of the screen.)
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Edit: I suspect there's probably some of both out there (bad pens and bad screens)... either way it makes the device difficult to use with the pen and worthy of an exchange.
SteveD01 said:
Maybe this picture of a test memo will clarify the issue with my second Note. The S Pen never was close to the screen, at least 1/4" away. But the area of the defect is limited to just a small portion of the screen. So in this case it's not likely to be a permanently depressed nib, but a bad portion of the screen. I can't say what the OP's issue might be. (On my first Note, the bad area was larger and near the top of the screen.)
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Ah, sorry, I misunderstood your issue. Got it!
camaroz28 said:
I'm kind of with ya on this, I wish mine was a little more sensitive. Although mine doesn't sound quite as bad as yours.
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Maybe I exaggerated it a bit. What I would *like* is if the pressure of the pen's own weight was enough to make it work, and I didn't have to physically press down at all to help it. That way I could very lightly glide it around without pressing much if at all. Basically like your fingers -- you really don't need to press down at all and I want to use the pen as a more accurate finger. But I just need to press a bit. Enough that sometimes I don't press enough and get frustrated that I need to re-swipe or re-tap, and it makes me not really want to keep using it lol. I don't need to like lean on it or anything... it requires about as much as you'd need to make a bic pen start to write on paper.
Well, just back from Best Buy. I was lucky because they had just received another shipment of Notes. I did another exchange and my third Note is working great! No problems with the pen/digitizer combination at all (so far).
While at BB I tried the new pen on my old device and found some improvement, but could still get some spurious screen actions in the lower right corner where the digitizer needs calibration. As other posters have noted, it seems worse if you hold the device upside down (maybe due to the pen nib switch), but was still wonky at any angle.
So it looks to me like this issue may sometimes be due to a miscalibrated or defective S Pen, sometimes a miscalibrated or defective digitizer screen, and sometimes a combination of both. I'm just happy to now have a working device.
pj_rage said:
Maybe I exaggerated it a bit. What I would *like* is if the pressure of the pen's own weight was enough to make it work, and I didn't have to physically press down at all to help it. That way I could very lightly glide it around without pressing much if at all. Basically like your fingers -- you really don't need to press down at all and I want to use the pen as a more accurate finger. But I just need to press a bit. Enough that sometimes I don't press enough and get frustrated that I need to re-swipe or re-tap, and it makes me not really want to keep using it lol. I don't need to like lean on it or anything... it requires about as much as you'd need to make a bic pen start to write on paper.
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I'm having the same issue...I have to press harder then I'd like. We cannot be the only ones that think like this right? I would like the pen to work under its own weight.
So the question is. How sensitive is your spen guys? I'd like to make sure there is no problem with my phone or spen.
SteveD01 said:
Well, just back from Best Buy. I was lucky because they had just received another shipment of Notes. I did another exchange and my third Note is working great! No problems with the pen/digitizer combination at all (so far).
While at BB I tried the new pen on my old device and found some improvement, but could still get some spurious screen actions in the lower right corner where the digitizer needs calibration. As other posters have noted, it seems worse if you hold the device upside down (maybe due to the pen nib switch), but was still wonky at any angle.
So it looks to me like this issue may sometimes be due to a miscalibrated or defective S Pen, sometimes a miscalibrated or defective digitizer screen, and sometimes a combination of both. I'm just happy to now have a working device.
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Glad to hear that BB is working with you. My phone and pens (the pen that came with the phone, as well as the pen that came with the "s pen holder" accessory) both display the same symptoms while I'm using the pen at an upwards angle. My s memo test was much worse, as the screen starts acknowledging the s pen well above the picture above. It's super frustrating, and I'm glad to hear that not all phones are like this. I'll definitely be exchanging my phone when I have a few hours of free time.
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... It's super frustrating, and I'm glad to hear that not all phones are like this. I'll definitely be exchanging my phone when I have a few hours of free time.
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Sorry, I guess I should have updated this thread. My third Note started exhibiting the same issue after about six hours of use, although it was still better than my first two. I also checked the display models at my AT&T store and they showed the same issue, so all five Notes I've had contact with all have shown the same defect.
My solution was found in another thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1517411
In post #22 of that thread was my final fix, which is still working great for me at this point.
I don't know if this is allowed in this section, but I am specifically curious with a question regarding development of a calibration app for the s-pen. I'm wondering if this is something that devs *can* do, or if this is not possible (for whatever reason).
I really hope it is, and that we can get something going. I have to depress the nib on my s-pen more than I would like in order for it to register. It's not bad, but I would prefer it more sensitive such that just the weight of the pen itself was enough to register.
I believe such a calibraiton app is possible, because even though my pen takes a bit of depression to get it to register, I know it is "activated" by the phone well before it even touches the surface of the screen. I have seen times where the pen does not register actual "touches" or "clicks", yet does interact with the phone, which leads me to believe that the pen is actually recognized by the device at a bit of distance before touching, but doesn't actually "click" or actively perform like your finger until the nib is physically depressed beyond the calibration point.
If we could just change a setting that essentially says "this is where the nib zero point is", and change it to suit our needs, and our individual pens, that would be AWESOME. One other thought, though, is that it may not be possible to achieve what I'm thinking, if there is no "signal strength" (for lack of a better term) as the pen gets first recognized and then closer to the screen. If the pen is reporting "0 nib press" until it is actually physically depressed a bit, and the "signal strength" can't be used as another calibration factor to allow it to simulate touches and clicks when it's just "close enough", then maybe it's not possible after all? I'm thinking something can be done, but I guess I'm not 100% certain.
If you want to see what I'm talking about where your pen is recognized by the device, but doesn't "click" or anything, just let the screen timeout from not touching it (while it's on). When it first dims, to warn you that it's about to turn off, just hover your pen near, but don't touch the surface. You'll see that it wakes it back up. Yet I've never had my pen EVER "click" or interact with the device from this distance, and it ALWAYS requires the nib to be pressed.
This post is meant to serve as food for thought and proof that the sensitivity should be more than enough, but there is just some calibration setting that is prevent the pen from being more (or less) sensitive.
You post in this section if you are personally developing something.
And yes, I would also be interested in some sort of calibration tool. It's a shame Samsung didn't include one.
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I don't know if this is allowed in this section, but I am specifically curious with a question regarding development of a calibration app for the s-pen. I'm wondering if this is something that devs *can* do, or if this is not possible (for whatever reason).
I really hope it is, and that we can get something going. I have to depress the nib on my s-pen more than I would like in order for it to register. It's not bad, but I would prefer it more sensitive such that just the weight of the pen itself was enough to register.
I believe such a calibraiton app is possible, because even though my pen takes a bit of depression to get it to register, I know it is "activated" by the phone well before it even touches the surface of the screen. I have seen times where the pen does not register actual "touches" or "clicks", yet does interact with the phone, which leads me to believe that the pen is actually recognized by the device at a bit of distance before touching, but doesn't actually "click" or actively perform like your finger until the nib is physically depressed beyond the calibration point.
If we could just change a setting that essentially says "this is where the nib zero point is", and change it to suit our needs, and our individual pens, that would be AWESOME. One other thought, though, is that it may not be possible to achieve what I'm thinking, if there is no "signal strength" (for lack of a better term) as the pen gets first recognized and then closer to the screen. If the pen is reporting "0 nib press" until it is actually physically depressed a bit, and the "signal strength" can't be used as another calibration factor to allow it to simulate touches and clicks when it's just "close enough", then maybe it's not possible after all? I'm thinking something can be done, but I guess I'm not 100% certain.
If you want to see what I'm talking about where your pen is recognized by the device, but doesn't "click" or anything, just let the screen timeout from not touching it (while it's on). When it first dims, to warn you that it's about to turn off, just hover your pen near, but don't touch the surface. You'll see that it wakes it back up. Yet I've never had my pen EVER "click" or interact with the device from this distance, and it ALWAYS requires the nib to be pressed.
This post is meant to serve as food for thought and proof that the sensitivity should be more than enough, but there is just some calibration setting that is prevent the pen from being more (or less) sensitive.
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this definitely should've been posted in the q&a section or the general section, not here, this is the development section , please move or delete!
Sorry. I was hoping the detail of the pen activating when near the screen might be a light bulb to some devs who view this forum. Thought it was a relevant "development" detail, didn't want it to go overlooked in the general section.
Mods, please move the thread if appropriate.
I'm testing TouchScreenTune for the developer Vitalijus, and found that Da_G's OC kernel is missing KALLSYMS (TouchScreenTune requires it), i assume this means ATNT stock is also missing it.
I PMed Da_G to see he can plug it in, hopefully he can and our calibration problems will be solved.
From my understanding all that is needed is to set CONFIG_KALLSYMS=y CONFIG_KALLSYMS_ALL=y in the kernel.
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In this menu is a spen test
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Go to dialer and press *#0*#
In this menu is a spen test
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I just tried that and it said first "USSD code running..." and then said "Connection problem or invalid MMI code."
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Go to dialer and press *#0*#
In this menu is a spen test
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That is not calibration, just function test...
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Please post in the correct section. This is for development only!
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I just tried that and it said first "USSD code running..." and then said "Connection problem or invalid MMI code."
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Works for me, gives about a dozen tests to select from. Comes up right after you press the last #. Shouldn't even give you time to press Talk/Send.
I didnt say calibration did i?
I said test, so people can make sure it is correctly working...
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My pen doesn't reach all the way to the edge of the screen on 2 sides of the screen, is that normal (or typical)?
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My pen doesn't reach all the way to the edge of the screen on 2 sides of the screen, is that normal (or typical)?
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Yes, many people are having this problem with the bottom(about .3mm) and right(about .01) side. They have not aligned the SPEN correctly to the borders of the screen.
Hopefully they fix this soon...
Hi,
I added in the requested KALLSYMs support.
If it can be determined that there is a fixed offset common among devices, this can be fixed at the kernel level.
shaolinx said:
Yes, many people are having this problem with the bottom(about .3mm) and right(about .01) side. They have not aligned the SPEN correctly to the borders of the screen.
Hopefully they fix this soon...
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I have the same issue and just got my Note. Should I exchange it or is this a common issue that everyone has?
Its been that way on every device i have checked....12 now
lowspeed said:
My pen doesn't reach all the way to the edge of the screen on 2 sides of the screen, is that normal (or typical)?
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Da_G said:
Hi,
I added in the requested KALLSYMs support.
If it can be determined that there is a fixed offset common among devices, this can be fixed at the kernel level.
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i noticed when you change the spen settings from right to left handed the sides of the screen where you cant get to the edge changes as well, but the bottom is the same on both
Started using toucscreen tune and it almost completely fixed it.
whiteb68 said:
i noticed when you change the spen settings from right to left handed the sides of the screen where you cant get to the edge changes as well, but the bottom is the same on both
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1519199&highlight=s+pen
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Touchscreentune made a huge difference. I donated. Still not perfect but definitely better
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I had a bunch of requests for Wave Control to have this functionality. I thought it best to do a dedicated app so here it is!
Flip Case Control was designed to work with Samsung's Flip Case on the I9300 while using as little battery as possible. (I left it running all night ~8.5 hours and the battery dipped 1% more than usual)
IMPORTANT: If your case is black or dark on the inside, the sensor doesn't read correctly when the case is closed. To fix this, put a piece of light colored tape on the inside of the case where it lines up with the sensor (located next to the front camera)
Note: A Samsung based ROM is required. CM won't work well.
Here's a demo video:
Play Store Links:
24 Hour Trial Version
Full Version
Could you guys with the Flip Case test it out?
All feedback is appreciated greatly!
I would like to try it for you but unfortunately i don't have flipping cover for this lovely device as it is not here yet everyday im searching everywhere but nothing
Waiting OP to give us their opinion about this app
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I have the combination.Let me try it and i ll report back
edit: works fine with stock rom and flip case.
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afilopou said:
I have the combination.Let me try it and i ll report back
edit: works fine with stock rom and flip case.
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Great, thanks for letting me know!
Is there something special about Samsung's Flip Case? I have a generic flip case but can't get this to work. Running rooted Deodexed LJ1.
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Is there something special about Samsung's Flip Case? I have a generic flip case but can't get this to work. Running rooted Deodexed LJ1.
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There shouldn't be but it is conceivable that if the case surface facing the proximity sensor is black and absorbs too much of the IR from the LED on the prox sensor then it wouldn't register a near reading.
The proximity sensor is an IR LED and light sensor. It detects distance by the amount of IR light that get reflected back off the surface in front of the sensor.
If this is the case, you could try to put a piece a light colored tape on the inside of the case where it lines up with the sensor.
Let me know if this works. What's brand of your case?
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There shouldn't be but it is conceivable that if the case surface facing the proximity sensor is black and absorbs too much of the IR from the LED on the prox sensor then it wouldn't register a near reading.
The proximity sensor is an IR LED and light sensor. It detects distance by the amount of IR light that get reflected back off the surface in front of the sensor.
If this is the case, you could try to put a piece a light colored tape on the inside of the case where it lines up with the sensor.
Let me know if this works. What's brand of your case?
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I bought the full version ystd. Yes it does work sith my rock flip case but i had uninstalled ot as it does turn off my screen for no obvious reason when im using it.
Hopefully you can come up with a fix for it soon
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There shouldn't be but it is conceivable that if the case surface facing the proximity sensor is black and absorbs too much of the IR from the LED on the prox sensor then it wouldn't register a near reading.
The proximity sensor is an IR LED and light sensor. It detects distance by the amount of IR light that get reflected back off the surface in front of the sensor.
If this is the case, you could try to put a piece a light colored tape on the inside of the case where it lines up with the sensor.
Let me know if this works. What's brand of your case?
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It's a cheapo from ebay until I can find a decent one...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Samsung-G...sPouches&var=540094094344&hash=item4d05abf35b
But you're right - the sensor doesn't like black. If I use a piece of lighter coloured tape on the inside of the cover it works! The only issue I have now is that the app is not auto loading at boot.
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I bought the full version ystd. Yes it does work sith my rock flip case but i had uninstalled ot as it does turn off my screen for no obvious reason when im using it.
Hopefully you can come up with a fix for it soon
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I'm working on an update right now to help reduce the unintentional triggers. I need to test it a little bit more but it should be out soon.
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It's a cheapo from ebay until I can find a decent one...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Samsung-G...sPouches&var=540094094344&hash=item4d05abf35b
But you're right - the sensor doesn't like black. If I use a piece of lighter coloured tape on the inside of the cover it works! The only issue I have now is that the app is not auto loading at boot.
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Are you running the full version? I limited that function to that version. Great to hear the tape fix worked
According to me proximity autolock works well and it is available on play store
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It works OK at the moment, I think the sensitivity should be decreased though as something passing an inch or two above the proximity sensor will still turn off the screen. Seeing as flip covers get up close and personal with the proximity sensor this seems a bit too sensitive.
EDIT: Definitely too sensitive, seems to turn off at random at times. Just had a phase where it wouldn't let me keep the screen on.
Maybe a failsafe of sorts could be implemented? Leave the screen on until timeout/power button press if turned on by the power button?
Edit 2: I uninstalled the app to stop it turning the screen off constantly, but it continued even after a reboot, I went into the display settings and saw the screen timeout had been changed to "()"and this was causing the issue, as soon as I changed it back to 30 seconds it was fine. Is this supposed to happen?
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Are you running the full version? I limited that function to that version. Great to hear the tape fix worked
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Yeah, just running the trial version - that explains it.
D3_ said:
It works OK at the moment, I think the sensitivity should be decreased though as something passing an inch or two above the proximity sensor will still turn off the screen. Seeing as flip covers get up close and personal with the proximity sensor this seems a bit too sensitive.
EDIT: Definitely too sensitive, seems to turn off at random at times. Just had a phase where it wouldn't let me keep the screen on.
Maybe a failsafe of sorts could be implemented? Leave the screen on until timeout/power button press if turned on by the power button?
Edit 2: I uninstalled the app to stop it turning the screen off constantly, but it continued even after a reboot, I went into the display settings and saw the screen timeout had been changed to "()"and this was causing the issue, as soon as I changed it back to 30 seconds it was fine. Is this supposed to happen?
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Ah.. crap. I thought I fixed that bug before I released it. I guess there's still a way for that to happen.
I'm working on an update to help filter out false triggers and will patch that bug. It shouldn't happen. Sorry.
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According to me proximity autolock works well and it is available on play store
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Proximity Autolock is a nice app with some excellent features but uses too much battery on The Note 1, an additional 8% overnight. And it doesn't work well on my Note 2.
The app works well. I bought it
It's a very useful feature that Samsung should have built in, but hey, I don't mind supporting you.
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The app works well. I bought it
It's a very useful feature that Samsung should have built in, but hey, I don't mind supporting you.
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Thanks!
I agree Samsung should have made this app. When I first showed it to a friend, he said "Isn't it already supposed to do that?"
A Beta
Here's what I'm playing with right now.
It should hopefully fix the bug D3_ ran into as well as reduce the false triggers. There will still be some due to sensor placement but this should make it much less sensitive. Also response time to turn on the screen should be a little bit faster. It's working well on my I9300, hopefully it should be the same on the Note II.
Let me know if this is performing better for you guys.
Still coming:
Disable in Landscape Mode
Disable when plugged in
[Edit: Removed Old Beta]
Just installed the beta, will report back after some use of it.
V1.05
Just uploaded version 1.05 to the Play Store
Changes:
Reduced false triggers for screen off
Changed button UI
Added notice about dark cases
Updated icon
Sped up screen on response a little bit
Cant you just do this using Tasker? I already spent money on the flip cover, so kinda hesitant to spend more for this functionality (which should be there in the first place!)
Ok so i have had this phone since it came out. I love it however i feel there is some dead space on all sides of the screen. Its not always there but its there a lot. It gets me killed in games and makes dragging from one screen to another difficult. Do others feel the same. I will post a picture of it in action in a minute using the developer options.
Here it is. Notice the side of the screen not getting input.
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Ye I was messen with the dev option the other nite n noticed I feel jipped....not really sxreens big enuff as is
Yeah that is very easy to see when you enable the touch locations in debugging.
Hmm. Dunno. At first I thought it was my case getting in the way but nope it's definitely not that. Just dead zone.
I played with the dev options touch tracks. If you are swiping the pen onto the screen it looks like there is a slight delay, but if I draw lines from the center out at all angles it seems to take me all the way to the edge most of the time. I saw one or two tracks that didn't make it, but then when I'd draw in the same area it would hit the edge. (If it really drives you insane, go back to bone stock and see if it duplicates. If it does, I'd get a new phone under warranty if you have that option) The gaps that you are seeing are WAY bigger than the gaps I had when they appeared, which was only a few swipes out of many.
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I played with the dev options touch tracks. If you are swiping the pen onto the screen it looks like there is a slight delay, but if I draw lines from the center out at all angles it seems to take me all the way to the edge most of the time. I saw one or two tracks that didn't make it, but then when I'd draw in the same area it would hit the edge. (If it really drives you insane, go back to bone stock and see if it duplicates. If it does, I'd get a new phone under warranty if you have that option) The gaps that you are seeing are WAY bigger than the gaps I had when they appeared, which was only a few swipes out of many.
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Why not take a screenshot to prove yourself? You make it sound like you are experiencing no gap at all, which I find hard to believe.
But please if you can back this up with screenshots it would be greatly appreciated and help figure out if this is really a problem or if we're making it a problem when there's none there.
Don't have this problem, but I do have the problem of not being able to draw straight lines from top to bottom on the right edge of my screen.
Even if I use a straight edge with the S-Pen, it draws a squigly line, but ONLY on the right side of my screen. No where else.
This is a replacement phone btw, the first one would lock up if you put more then 4 fingers on the screen, and I had a dead spot in the bottom right corner of my screen.
Stock has that visual touch option?
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Why not take a screenshot to prove yourself? You make it sound like you are experiencing no gap at all, which I find hard to believe.
But please if you can back this up with screenshots it would be greatly appreciated and help figure out if this is really a problem or if we're making it a problem when there's none there.
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No gap confirmed and proven.
Seems to be fine on the newest build of 4.1.2: http://i.imgur.com/sIxDBMW.png
Adrynalyne and illogic6 can you guys confirm you took those screenshots while using the S Pen to see touches? Here's why I ask.
These first 2 screenshots are of me using my fingers for touch input.
Now these next 2 screenshots are using the S Pen.
If you look you will see that when using your fingers the Pressure sensor always reports a 1.0 maximum pressure, and using the S Pen it is able to have a large range, with 1.0 requiring a great deal of force. Since neither of you guys have a solid red 1.0 for Pres I am going to guarantee you both used the S Pen. In this case, as you can also see in my screenshots I was able to get basically full range of the screen and digitizer when using the Pen. Unfortunately that's not the issue we're having, it's with finger touch.
The closest I can get to any of the 4 edges using my fingers is within 20 pixels reach to the very border. If you guys could please re-do the tests and screenshots using your fingers instead of the S Pen I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.
Mine were both done with the s-pen.
However unlike the pen, your finger ends up going off the screen when it ends up losing touch.
I think that's the reason we are seeing this. The finger cannot be as precise as the pen.
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Mine were both done with the s-pen.
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I know they were, and thank you for confirming. I'd like to see some shots from you and illogic of you guys using your fingers instead while doing the same motions.
You caught me editing my post. Check it again to see what my theory is.
This would be better tested using a capacitive stylus.
Also despite the pointer location cutting off, I can actually press in the area that appears dead and activate menu options.
So something weird is going on for sure but I don't think they are truly dead spots.
Here's a screen shot, looks like it does cut off touches before the edge of the screen with the fingers. I Wonder if it cuts off when the first part of your finger leaves the screen? Maybe It senses bezel input and registers a swipe? All of the inputs along the edge are spen inputs.
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Also despite the pointer location cutting off, I can actually press in the area that appears dead and activate menu options.
So something weird is going on for sure but I don't think they are truly dead spots.
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I agree. Especially when I watch full screen flash videos the little tiny bar on the bottom of the screen along the left edge, I am able to press a button probably 10x10 pixels square right on the edge and it almost always works the first time. And that's using my finger, with the Pen it's obviously always accurate.
I wonder why it shows up like that though? The show pointer locations developer option is as raw as you're going to get at visualizing how the hardware is being interpreted, so it's not like other software could read those dead spaces. It's just really wierd all around.
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Here's a screen shot, looks like it does cut off touches before the edge of the screen with the fingers. I Wonder if it cuts off when the first part of your finger leaves the screen? Maybe It senses bezel input and registers a swipe? All of the inputs along the edge are spen inputs.
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That's interesting. I am sure I would come up with the same results. I find it rather annoying though.
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i have the same issue, first i thougt it would be my otterbox case, but i put another note in, the n7100 (international note 2) and it works fine.
i have this problems mainly on the buttons M and Backspace on the swype keyboard with english layout. thats why i recognized the issue. i dont know if its anywhere else as well.
but sometimes it works pretty good, if i keep texting it just gets bad from one second to the next. but it will work if i press the screen "harder"...
any solution to fix it?
Snake-Plissken said:
i have the same issue, first i thougt it would be my otterbox case, but i put another note in, the n7100 (international note 2) and it works fine.
i have this problems mainly on the buttons M and Backspace on the swype keyboard with english layout. thats why i recognized the issue. i dont know if its anywhere else as well.
but sometimes it works pretty good, if i keep texting it just gets bad from one second to the next. but it will work if i press the screen "harder"...
any solution to fix it?
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This isn't the same problem we're having in this thread. What you're experiencing is likely a busted digitizer. We're experiencing a clipped plane of detection all around the edges of the screen.
If you're positive that those specific spots on the screen never work then I would recommend you replace the phone.
I had a bit more time to play with this. i can doodle all day long in this so called dead spot but if i drag in from the bezel it doesn't register till 20 or so pixels in. Is that what others are seeing? It is on all sides
Hi,
Has anyone used the original s- view filp cover, particularly black one. Its kind of costly so, I am not sure if its worth its value or should I go for cheap OEM filp covers.
Please comment on its pros or cons.
I've just ordered one. If it arrives and for you is even more interesting I can write an overview.
Please do
I'm also interested in knowing what it can do, particularly if it locks/unlocks the phone when closing/opening. One other thing would be the wireless charging, but I got my hopes down for that...
I already have that flip cover but i didn'n likes its look just like an old phone book and when putting this flip cover i feel the phone looks smaller than without any case .It's totally my view point it depends
It's a little expensive but I think it worth it. It protects the phone well and it does not add much bulk to the phone.
To me one the best features is that I no longer have to have a lock screen on my phone. The phone wakes up when I flip it open and goes into "S-view mode" when I close it and then back to sleep. This mean I can just pull it out of my pocket, flip it open, no need to swipe, do what I have to do and then close it. It make checking things a snap. Also since it protects the screen when I'm not using it I dont use a screen protector.
The s-view mode is also nice. In my case I use it to snap quick pictures and start playing music without even opening the case.
eddi003 said:
It's a little expensive but I think it worth it. It protects the phone well and it does not add much bulk to the phone.
To me one the best features is that I no longer have to have a lock screen on my phone. The phone wakes up when I flip it open and goes into "S-view mode" when I close it and then back to sleep. This mean I can just pull it out of my pocket, flip it open, no need to swipe, do what I have to do and then close it. It make checking things a snap. Also since it protects the screen when I'm not using it I dont use a screen protector.
The s-view mode is also nice. In my case I use it to snap quick pictures and start playing music without even opening the case.
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i quote... it's also very comfortable and the backside of the cover feels better than the original.
The utility of the s-view is -software-side - a little poor IMHO. When you receive a SMS message, the s-view shows it but then you have to open the cover to read all the message. It will be useful also reading mail from s-cover or interact with the IRDA sensor like a remote.
Using s-view for taking memo is also very limitative...the display is not very sensible and the s-pen doesn't work flawlessy.
However, is the best cover for note 3 neo/lite...
edit: can't change the wallpaper of the s-view cover...grrrrrrr....only default colors...
Can someone post a photo of a s cover electrical connection to n3n back. Thanks
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Can someone post a photo of a s cover electrical connection to n3n back. Thanks
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Here a photo:
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Thanks,
Does this cover have wireless charging ?
djlech said:
Thanks,
Does this cover have wireless charging ?
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I don't check this.
djlech said:
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Does this cover have wireless charging ?
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I don't think so.
Whem i'm right, the golden contacts have something to do with auto sleep/wake up.
Yeap that is right but in Note 3 the top two side contacts can be used for Qi charging.
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Oh, thank you for this info
Does it hog battery? Or is it battery friendly? I have "Rock elegant s view cover" and it hogs on battery life as it doesn't have any hardware.. just an app which works on proximity sensor.. so the app is always active in the background.. and uses more battery than the screen does..
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Evil Eye said:
Does it hog battery? Or is it battery friendly? I have "Rock elegant s view cover" and it hogs on battery life as it doesn't have any hardware.. just an app which works on proximity sensor.. so the app is always active in the background.. and uses more battery than the screen does..
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I have the original S View cover. In replying to your question it does not consume the battery - at least it's not noticeable.
The contacts on the rear part of the cover are for open - close sensor. They are in touch with two contacts in the phone back.
I don't think there is a possibility of wireless charge in Note 3 Neo.
I compared my N7502 with the "full" Note 3 of my friend. "Full" Note 3 it has 5 contacts on the phone back, Note 3 Neo has just two.
Moreover the Flip Cover for "full" Note 3 exists in 2 versions, two prices. One, cheaper, is just with open close sensor - that's my friend's one - with 2 contacts. The other one, more expensive, I suppose with 4 or 5 contacts supports both open - close and wireless charge.
Note 3 Neo has only one version of the cover, with 2 contacts as the phone has only 2 contacts on the back.
The only problem with this cover in case of my DUOS version is if I have the option "Always ask" enabled (concerning the SIM I want to use for make a call), the choose window does not appear in the cover square window, I have to open it to make my choice. I hope it will be corrected with the new firmware.
Thanks mate.. will get the S View cover then
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Hi all,
Got my original S-view cover.
The build quality is really good. It will definitely save your phone if you accidently drop it.
With the cover closed we can receive/reject call, access camera, music player and Action memo. And also see number of missed calls and messages.
However with the cover on we can't see the notification light, which is kind of annoying.
Not sure what the two pins are for on the back. Pretty sure they are not for the s-view function, because my grand 2's cover don't have any pins and still the s-view works fine. Are they for wireless charging?
sourabhkejriwal said:
Hi all,
Got my original S-view cover.
The build quality is really good. It will definitely save your phone if you accidently drop it.
With the cover closed we can receive/reject call, access camera, music player and Action memo. And also see number of missed calls and messages.
However with the cover on we can't see the notification light, which is kind of annoying.
Not sure what the two pins are for on the back. Pretty sure they are not for the s-view function, because my grand 2's cover don't have any pins and still the s-view works fine. Are they for wireless charging?
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Hey, your're RIGHT !!!
I did a small experiment after reading your post. I detached the cover, put a small piece of paper to insulate the contacts and the S View still works indeed !
In this case it must be the wireless charging - no idea what else could it be ?
The best would be to make a try by putting a covered phone on a wireless charger, unfortunatelly I have no access to such one :/
Guys i need your help! I have the s cover,and i cant take a note with the cover on! Whenever i try i get that stupid pop up which you have to click the box and then press ok.However i only see the box, but not the button and as a result i get it every time! I tried making the font smaller but still.... Anyone know a solution?
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Guys i need your help! I have the s cover,and i cant take a note with the cover on! Whenever i try i get that stupid pop up which you have to click the box and then press ok.However i only see the box, but not the button and as a result i get it every time! I tried making the font smaller but still.... Anyone know a solution?
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Looks as it's not implemented in the firmware, same as the SIM choice window when trying to make a call with the cover closed...