Before we begin: this thread is not about asking for users to comment which is the best rom or which is the worst! I am just asking for suggestions of which roms should I test in order to find out answer on my own.
So, I have had various roms, like neatrom, cm11, omnirom, whatever. The main problem with unofficial roms is instability. So, I am asking for your suggestions which roms should I test out in order to find a rom which is:
stable (very important since most of the roms are very unstable)
as new as possible (talking about android version, not rom's release date)
~good battery life (at least sort of good)
still has support (new releases, updates, etc)
Any ideas?
Recently I have tried android 4.2.2 CM 10.2 stable. It's far from stable: phone sometimes randomly freezed...
Also, tried various kitkat roms. Its obvious why I am no longer using them...
Neatrom / 4.1.2 is extremely laggy (comparing to, for example 4.2.2). So I sort of hate it too.
Rom suggestion threads are also forbidden.
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Word it in any way you like,it is still not allowed.
Please test these things for yourself.
This is the only way you will get an unbiased opinion,and then, you can decide for yourself if it meets YOUR needs.
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OK, so here's the thing... I'm kind of new in the Android acknowledgement, so I hope that here will be the place where I will get my answers. So here's what I know...
At first I didn't know that Android was Java-based, using a modified Linux kernel which we all know it's C-based (entirely). After a while, I found that there were different firmwares (ROMs) from the original ones, called Stock ones and also different kernels. After reading lots of info about how things actually are, I've decided to root my stock and then I moved to a custom MIUI for my SGSII with a JB implementation. At first it was great, but I had some issues which left me disappointed. Then I moved on to the official MIUI (China - English one). Things got better after I got used to it. The major bugs disappeared, only small ones left and a few crashes, but in time most of them got fixed. Later it crossed my mind, "Why are there so many different kernels and which is the best one for my phone or ROM to be precise?" Well this is where I need your help. I've read some topics that siyah kernel is probably the best kernel, which fits the MIUI rom. The pointing of concrete kernels isn't the kind of answer I was actually searching for. To be honest, I need answers to questions like:
How many kernels are there ?
Which ones are safe ? (I've read that there are badly written ones, so yeah, it needs to be asked)
Statistically, which is the best kernel and is it for the MIUI rom ?
How can I tell that it's suitable for the MIUI rom ? (Since I've read that not all are)
What are the risks of changing the kernel?
How can you test the kernel's behaviour, an app which makes statistics in time or some other methods ?
Believe me, as annoying this topic might seem, lots of us (the newbie users) are burning up the google servers, just to find these answers. I'm really hoping for a reply spam with answers (if possible , spare the trolling ones). Thanks for reading my annoying topic, anyway
Since most of the source is available, basically anyone can build their own kernel at home, so it is hard to tell how many kernels are there.
what isn`t available as open source are most of the OEM-specific drivers. Samsung, for one, doesn`t make most of the drivers' source publicly available, so kernel developers have to make a binary kernel around the binary drivers and literally pray their work well together.
Siyah is safe, but I prefer the stock kernel (I like the stock ROM... go figure). The stock kernel is the only one that is sure to work properly with all the hardware in the phone, because it is the only built from sources for the drivers as well (read my previous paragraph).
Which ones are safe (other than stock and Siyah): you gotta try them for yourself, read other users' remarks and feedbacks, and so on.
Risks:
Very low. As long as the bootloader is good, if the kernel totally malfunctions, just reboot in download mode and flash something else.
Some app may work very well in one kernel and bomb in another. It may crash in some kernels. It is very empyrical.
The problem is that custom kernels don't undergo the same type of quality testing as stock kernels. Developers have very limited resources to do that, and some developers are more interested in having a short time-to-market than a quality product (well, many large corporations act like that as well). At the end of the day we - power users - are the beta testing and quality assurance teams for the kernel developers.
Hi,
I am new to android. I have finally rooted my device after a lot of time spending (following the instructions I found in the forum). Now that I have a rooted device, how can I install jelly bean OS (please suggest any other stable software without bugs) on my device and can you please help me out with giving step by step instructions to be followed on how to do it....
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Hi,
I am new to android. I have finally rooted my device after a lot of time spending (following the instructions I found in the forum). Now that I have a rooted device, can I install jelly bean OS (or any other stable software without bugs) on my device and if yes, can you please help me out with giving step by step instructions to be followed on how to do it....
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You can't ask in this forum, "What's the best ROM?" as this goes against the rules of the board. There are many good ROMs and it's a matter of taste and preference. In general the ROMs which are based on the last HTC ICS OTA are the most stable and trouble-free. There are many to choose from that are based on this release, so you'll have to read through the threads and try them out for yourself to decide. As far as JellyBean and KitKat are concerned there are fewer to choose from and all have some type of functionality issues mostly involving Bluetooth, WiFi tethering and camera/video. Every ROM will have somewhere in the first thread or two a list of known bugs / issues and potential workarounds if available. Again, you'll need to read through and determine if the known issues are critical enough to prevent you from trying them out.
Finally, there are several extremely helpful threads with links to important, informative posts that are pinned at the top of the various forums. I suggest you read through them as well as checking out the Amaze Wiki page here on XDA (link at the top of the page) and the "Amaze Bible" page. These host incredible bits of useful information that will steer you in the right direction, so you can fully take advantage of your handset.
Good luck
Ciao
Odysseus1962 said:
You can't ask in this forum, "What's the best ROM?" as this goes against the rules of the board. There are many good ROMs and it's a matter of taste and preference. In general the ROMs which are based on the last HTC ICS OTA are the most stable and trouble-free. There are many to choose from that are based on this release, so you'll have to read through the threads and try them out for yourself to decide. As far as JellyBean and KitKat are concerned there are fewer to choose from and all have some type of functionality issues mostly involving Bluetooth, WiFi tethering and camera/video. Every ROM will have somewhere in the first thread or two a list of known bugs / issues and potential workarounds if available. Again, you'll need to read through and determine if the known issues are critical enough to prevent you from trying them out.
Finally, there are several extremely helpful threads with links to important, informative posts that are pinned at the top of the various forums. I suggest you read through them as well as checking out the Amaze Wiki page here on XDA (link at the top of the page) and the "Amaze Bible" page. These host incredible bits of useful information that will steer you in the right direction, so you can fully take advantage of your handset.
Good luck
Ciao
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Indeed so.
Thread closed, please no more "best ROM threads."
palmbeach05 said:
CM dropped official support due to kernel stability issues. I remember we were discussing ROMs. 7.2 was, according to CM, the last stable version. Due to all the changes when everything became 4.0, the kernel became unstable on our device. Our devs have created a kernel that is stable enough for daily use, but not stable enough for an official CM. You do have CM9, 10, 10.1, 10.2, and 11 that are stable. CM12 needs work before being recommended for daily use.
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Thanks for the information, glad to see that i can still get support for this device. :good:
I'm trying to get general information for the last 2 days, reading especially the Q&A and development sections in the forum . If i understood correct;
* There's a new kernel being developed named as [KERNEL] [3.1.10] as you mentioned in your post. This new kernel seems nearly perfect, it just has these 3 downsides regarding the given information on its own topic:
1) HDMI [post-poned] (Nvm, I don't need it)
2) Fingerprint ROM Libs+Framework [work in progress] (Nvm, I don't need it)
3) Flash [work in progress] (Camera flash? It would be nice, but still not mandatory for me)
So i thought i could try the newest unofficial CM releases based on this new kernel. I checked the most-used ones in the development section for CM11, CM10.1, CM10, CM9. But i learned a very disappointing thing in the posts. If it's true, although bluetooth is operable for data transfer, it is NOT working for voice, meaning that i won't be able to use it in my car. :crying:
Other negatives are not that important, but GSM calls over bluetooth is very necessary for me. Because it's a security issue, as most of all need to use our phones while driving! So i regrettably had to eliminate the CM Roms which use this new kernel for now!
I need a Rom that is stable enough and has a wide hardware support such as necessarily:
1) Calls over bluetooth
2) GPS
3) Wi-fi tethering (USB tethering is not important)
Plus; android version must be new enough to support some of the applications. I found out that i need at least CM10 (Android v4.1) for the applications that i need to install.
At the end i can summarize my choices as follows:
* CM7.2 based Roms: All of them seem very stable, but some of my applications doesn't work on Android 2.3, so negative.
* CM9 based Roms: New kernel or not, Android v4.0 is old for a few of my applications. So, negative.
* CM10 based Roms: "CM10 (JellyBean) for Atrix" from @epinter seems very appropriate for me. It doesn't use the new kernel and Android v4.1 is sufficient (recent enough) for my applications. POSITIVE
* CM10.1 based Roms: "CM 10.1(Android 4.2) for Atrix" from @epinter could be very good, but it uses the new kernel. So, negative.
* CM11 based Roms: "CM 11 ( Android 4.4.4 ) for Atrix (BigPart)" from @Zn7mkUKzN1r8aCIV would be perfect, but i think it also uses new kernel, as it's indicated that ".BT phone call" is NOT working. So, negative.
* CM12 based Roms: I saw the "Mokee For Atrix 4g (Android L 5.0.2) (preview)", but as you see, it's not an option for me yet. So, negative.
If i didn't misunderstood what i've read till now, the most appropriate Rom seems;
"CM10 (JellyBean) for Atrix, By epinter" for me.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781970
I think it would be better for me to continue on its own Q&A thread, I don't want to ruin this CM7.2 thread anymore.
Please share your opinions, i really need your advises.
EDIT: Oopss, basic kernel on CM10 seems lacking HW acceleration. So, i can't play NFS Most Wanted, Dead Space, Max Payne etc. games properly, right? What about navigation apps like iGo, Sygic, etc?
EDIT: This post was originally in the "CM7 Q&A" section and moved here as a seperate thread. My aim is not to find the "Best Rom ever" etc., i just seek for a Rom that's similar to the current awesome CM7, which fits my needs. I think i could find the best title for this post.
Can anyone please suggest me a great ROM for i9100?
I used cyanogenmod 12.1 for a while but it still have some problems and ambient display didn't work.
I'm looking for a stable one with regular updates and possibly with ambient display feature.
Thanks in advance.
I'm sorry but these types of threads aren't allowed on XDA. If you wish to find a good ROM you need to try them out and find which one is best for you. One persons favourite rom may be someone elses least favourite.
Please try out some ROMs for yourself and decide.
I just wanted simple advices, apologies.
We'll let you off with this one since you are still a new member, I personally recommend Slimsaber 4.4.4 by Fusionjack for updated and stable rom. You can also use Cyanogenmod 11, since these are the only 2 kitkat roms I know that have been patched for the stagefright bug. I can not input on whether you would call them 'great' or 'best' roms , because it is just subjective (and it is against XDA rules too, as we shouldn't create bias in the development community).
And if you guessed it, I didn't recommend any Lollipop ROMs, this is because I still believe they haven't matured enough yet for our device whereas Kitkat has had a while to stabilize.
Regards, gsstudios
Hi,
I do understand this question has been asked time and again but I require help in finding a stable rom. This is for my Dad's phone so it should meet most of the criteria I've mentioned below :
1) A 5.0+ rom (4.4.4 is good but no Material Design)
2) I don't require a rom with all the bells and whistle's, just something neat and simple.
3) A decent SoT but the battery standby should be good.
4) It should be something recent (and by that I mean not a 2 years old rom, somewhere around the last year line).
5) Everything in the rom should work as it should, i.e. , no broken features, no fc's etc.
I know I may be asking for a near perfect rom but anything close to the lines of above criteria should do.
I'm sorry if you came across this as a bit rude.
Thanks in advance.
Try cm12.1 snapshot :https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24459283995310326
OR latest cm13 nightly :https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=condor
OR
Try RR lollipop (can't find the link though)
Try Zephyr OS :http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e/development/rom-zephyr-os-sabermodtc15th-apr-t3359325
Use cardinal rom for best performance and battery backup.. This rom is super clean and does not have any unwanted apps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e/development/rom-condorcardinal-aosp-t3471196