As the title states, here are the mods I made to get NFC working with my Qi Reciever on my S View case. Basically I turned this
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In an attempt to reduce the size of the bulge on my S View case to a minimum. I was able to retain the wireless charging and S View functions.
People have already been using this setup, with or without removing the excess material from the qi receiver with success; those who have know that this setup also renders NFC useless.
This was OK with me at the time but then I learned about RootCloak, the Xposed Module that allows you to hide SU from target applications, allowing rooted users of the Verizon Note 3 to use Isis NFC tap and pay functions. I was determined to get NFC, Wireless Charging and S View all working, and decided to take a chance and make a few more reductions to the Qi receiver to try to get this to work. What I ended up with is this
Using a razor blade I cut away all the plastic that was not integral in the circuitry or the coil for the qi receiver. I tried to take a picture to show that.
Anyway the end result is as I stated before, S View, Wireless Charging and NFC.
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I tried to take the screen shots in direct succession so that people would be satisfied that I'm not full of BS. However I had to restore a backup of my old school screen shot app (since I haven't had to use it since my Note 2) in order to get the S View screenshot. Of course the TiBu restored app didn't work since it was a version for ICS from my HTC Rezound days, so I had to update the app from the Playstore... accounting for the changes in time 12:22, 12:23, 12:29. I assure you that I have not tried to pull any BS, and I do have all three of these functions working.
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harajyuks said:
I tried to take the screen shots in direct succession so that people would be satisfied that I'm not full of BS. However I had to restore a backup of my old school screen shot app (since I haven't had to use it since my Note 2) in order to get the S View screenshot. Of course the TiBu restored app didn't work since it was a version for ICS from my HTC Rezound days, so I had to update the app from the Playstore... accounting for the changes in time 12:22, 12:23, 12:29. I assure you that I have not tried to pull any BS, and I do have all three of these functions working.
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That's pretty awesome, and modding one of those mudder receivers would only cost 10 bucks if you mess it up.
I worry about the receiver being bare like that though. You don't think it will cause any damage due to the heat being directly on the battery/door instead of through the coating originally put on it?
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That's pretty awesome, and modding one of those mudder receivers would only cost 10 bucks if you mess it up.
I worry about the receiver being bare like that though. You don't think it will cause any damage due to the heat being directly on the battery/door instead of through the coating originally put on it?
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Honestly, yes that is a concern. Mudder manufacturers the Qi receiver with a substantial amount of thermal padding on the coil. The exposed coil, to my surprise, was actually also enveloped inside of a plastic film, as pictured. I have ripped apart other Qi receivers, copper wire receivers, to reduce the bulge through the back cover, leaving them exposed and they also produced a fair amount of heat while charging/immediately after being removed from the charging base.
In this useage, since I made these changes to the Mudder receiver, I can say that this setup doesn't get nearly as warm to the touch after being on my Qi pad overnight while charging as the exposed copper wire receivers I have also made changes to does (which is kind of an obvious statement as exposed copper wire will clearly get hotter than this Murder coil which is enveloped in the plastic film).
Personally, I was comfortable with the amount of heat that my original copper wire qi receiver gave off after I made the changes to it, as it was (believe it or not) not much warmer than the use of the receiver before I modified it. Having experienced that setup, I am definitely more confident in the Mudder receiver being used with these changes I made.
Notably, I was using the exposed copper wire reciever for about a month before I found out about the Mudder version, without any problems, and my current setup really doesn't get any warmer to the touch than using the wall plug.
Of course I am running a risk of having an issue since I have modified these products from their original design and intended use, but I am within my comfort-zone based on my experiences. As long as nothing explodes and burns my house down!
Btw, that coating in the Mudder receiver is easily double the thickness of the of the actual receiver.
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Wow, the camera on the OG Note 10.1 SUCKS! smh
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Wow, the camera on the OG Note 10.1 SUCKS! smh
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I just cut up some of mine and left that thermal padding on and I got nfc working much better now (not 100% though).
If I get it in the right spot it does work all the time, but there's little margin for error. I'll probably keep chopping away and testing to see if I can keep the thermal stuff on it.
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I just cut up some of mine and left that thermal padding on and I got nfc working much better now (not 100% though).
If I get it in the right spot it does work all the time, but there's little margin for error. I'll probably keep chopping away and testing to see if I can keep the thermal stuff on it.
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Its nice to get NFC working since there is a work around for ISIS now, I doubt I would have tried this if not for RootCloak.
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Its nice to get NFC working since there is a work around for ISIS now, I doubt I would have tried this if not for RootCloak.
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ISIS works flawlessly, even with my half cut up version.
I was *told* the NFC for ISIS sits on the sim card. But I dunno if I believe it.
Either way, while I still have some small issues with NFC in general, ISIS works perfectly.
kudosmog said:
ISIS works flawlessly, even with my half cut up version.
I was *told* the NFC for ISIS sits on the sim card. But I dunno if I believe it.
Either way, while I still have some small issues with NFC in general, ISIS works perfectly.
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Actually if you look at the battery, assuming it is an original Samsung part, the NFC antenna is on the battery itself. I don't think that you can fit a proper NFC antenna onto a SIM card. This was mentioned in the forum thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471791
Cutting away the excess from the receiver exposes more of the antenna on the battery so that it can receive the signal from the NFC tag.
Hi guys, plz advise.
I am using a similar ravpower wireless reciever with the official s view case and have cut out the edges a lil bit for fitting purposes. But I am bit disaapointed with wireless charging. Firstly its really slow compared to usb 3 charging. 30mts 10% increase. Secondly, the heat generated seems not normal. The sview functions work very well and the wireless receiver detection is spot on.
I am wondering whether its the receiver issue or is it just this much that we can expect from this wireless charge technology.
Would it be anything better in case of the official s view wireless charge case or the official wireless back cover? Thnx
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Firstly its really slow compared to usb 3 charging. 30mts 10% increase. Secondly, the heat generated seems not normal. .
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Wireless will max out at around 640ma while the charging cable to AC will be around 1800ma. Wireless will always be slower.
Wireless will also generate heat that a wired charger won't.
So what you are seeing is normal.
krelvinaz said:
Wireless will max out at around 640ma while the charging cable to AC will be around 1800ma. Wireless will always be slower.
Wireless will also generate heat that a wired charger won't.
So what you are seeing is normal.
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The 640ma, is it with every wireless charger? I mean if the official case is used, would thr be ny improvement in terms of speed and heat? Thnx
Hi, thanks a lot for the trick.
I got the same in France from Aukey brand.
http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B00JSOP9SM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The only thing to make it work with the s-view case without any lump on the rear is to get the small ground pin out (in addition, I also cut the P3 one out, useless):
Everything's ok: Wireless charging, NFC, s-view detection.
Please don't try this there is a risk of damaging your receiver and the case as I did. I was having good time with my OEM S-view flip case and decent wireless charging on my Tylt VU using a Qi receiver until I tried this to regain NFC on my Note3.
I did cut the receiver sparingly leaving more edge for coils but it looks very much the same as it was posted in OP. It worked normally for a day and then suddenly stopped working. Strangely now my S-view also doesn't work. Did all what I can do cleaning the contacts, pins, restarted several times but with no luck.
Cutting P3 and removing GND pin helps?
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Hi, thanks a lot for the trick.
I got the same in France from Aukey brand.
http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B00JSOP9SM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The only thing to make it work with the s-view case without any lump on the rear is to get the small ground pin out (in addition, I also cut the P3 one out, useless):
Everything's ok: Wireless charging, NFC, s-view detection.
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Has anyone else noticed that when the tablet is charging, if you rub your fingers very lightly on the metal back you will feel what seems like very light vibrations? I tried this on two primes and each does the same----this only happens when the AC is plugged into the prime. It's as if the tablet is not properly grounded or something. I really want to like this thing but I have growing doubts about Asus' build quality.
For example, lightly rub the back left side from bottom to top. Keep your right off the tablet. Once you feel the tingling grasp the tablet with your hand (touching the metal of course). You should now notice the tingling can't be replicated with your left hand... As if your right hand is now grounding the tablet. Remove your right hand and continue rubbing with your left hand. Good vibrations??
Yeah I was wondering what that was
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Have it on mine too, wtf?
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Same thing happened on the dock of the original Transformer (TF101).
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My macbook pro does that too. I wouldn't be concerned, just don't take a bath with it.
Thats just the prime sapping your life force, please disregard.
how do you guys find all these things? Y'all have too much time on your hand's!
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Has anyone else noticed that when the tablet is charging, if you rub your fingers very lightly on the metal back you will feel what seems like very light vibrations? I tried this on two primes and each does the same----this only happens when the AC is plugged into the prime. It's as if the tablet is not properly grounded or something. I really want to like this thing but I have growing doubts about Asus' build quality.
For example, lightly rub the back left side from bottom to top. Keep your right off the tablet. Once you feel the tingling grasp the tablet with your hand (touching the metal of course). You should now notice the tingling can't be replicated with your left hand... As if your right hand is now grounding the tablet. Remove your right hand and continue rubbing with your left hand. Good vibrations??
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at first i couldn't feel it but i found it, weird feeling but kinda cool
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Can't replicate the issue or maybe just don't realize it but nothing to worry about I'm sure
This was a problem with the original transformer too
Flipping the charger upside-down fixed the problem for the original
Try that?
Shouldn't be anything to worry about though, it happens with a lot of laptops too
http://google.com/search?q=tingly+sensation+when+charging
I don't have mine yet, but I'd put a multimeter on it.
Is this when you're charging via the 120v USB adapter or a micro-USB cable? If it's via the 120v adapter you don't have a ground at the outlet.
USB has a ground wire but if the adapter doesn't have a ground, then the ground in the TP is only going to be a floating ground. Now I'm not an electrician, but my understanding is that this kind of ground tends to feed back into the power source, or in this case, the battery. The lid is likely grounded to this circuit, meaning if you walk across a thick carpet and touch the lid of your Transformer, instead of possibly frying your Transformer, the electricity is thrown off into the battery / charging circuit.
If someone can provide a more educated answer it would be appreciated, but this appears to be by design... better to protect the electronics in the device than worry about a couple volts escaping the charging circuit onto the back of the device. It seems to me like there would be a diode somewhere to only let power flow from the back into the charging circuit instead of allowing the opposite... but perhaps someone can explain this.
EDIT - I think I figured it out. There probably is a diode between the chassis ground and the charging circuit so that voltage to the chassis will ground to the battery instead of the battery pushing voltage to the chassis, but when the battery is being charged and thus already has all the voltage flowing in that it can handle, the rest of the device has to ground somewhere since the 120v adapter does not allow for an earth ground. So the TFP's circuits are grounding to the chassis during charging for lack of anywhere else to ground to.
I'm willing to bet that using a micro-USB charging cable would solve this issue since the TFP could ground back to the PC at the other end via the USB ground wire instead of the chassis.
You must really love your prime if you were gently stroking its back while it charged...lol...that said, mine does it too.
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Solution found - just do this!
Got some rubber Gloves?
Seriously, this is EXACTLY the same issue as we all experienced with the TF101. It is a polarity/grounding issue with the horrendously cheap charging unit supplied with the Transformer. A simple reversal of the polarity on the charger will stop the issue.
With the TF101, they released 2 different "fixed" charging... transformers, pun intended, and neither one made the slightest difference. I was seriously freaked when I first felt the "buzz" from the metal areas of the TF101, and did a LOT of research on it.
The weird thing is, they could have made one blade wider on the step down charger, to force it one way in the wall socket, but my guess it, it's different in different areas: Meaning, I had to put my charger in "upside down" (with the ASUS logo being upside down to eliminate the tingle, but at least one other person needed it the reverse.
It is seriously creepy feeling (some claim to like it LOL) and I can NOT believe that having a trickle of current, no matter how tiny, running across the entire casing can be good for the longevity of the device. When I saw that the charger was essentially unchanged form the TF101, I was seriously worried that the issue would still occur, and, of course with a full metal jacket, it would be that much more bothersome.
I do NOT expect ASUS to resolve this, since they never did on the first transformer, so it, just get used to plugging in the right way each time.
Anyone want to volunteer touch the casein when the buzz is present while in a bathtub? Might make for an interesting lawsuit.
I am actually semi-serious. Years ago we had a cheap Taiwanese video card fry the GPU, set off smoke alarms and bring out the Fire Department in the middle of the night. When I returned it the bottom of the pricing food chain warehouse, ALL of the employees came to the counter (all 12 of them, LOL) and wanted a look at it. You could see the noticeable worry on their faces, and what appeared to be actual fear in their eyes. Somewhat intrigued, I asked: "So why are you guys so worried about this? Answer: "We have a few hundred of these sold, and one in OUR labs fried last night, and actually started a fire. We are concerned about the others that are out there now...."
I'll BET they were. Asus isn't going to set anything afire, short of some tempers, but this is NOT a good issue to see an a "Premium" Top Tier Tablet. On THIS issue, I will be communication with ASUS.
Has anyone taken a multimeter and measured this? Touch one probe to the back of the Transformer Prime, and the other to a grounded or large metal object - a sink faucet or metal handrail etc..
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Anyone want to volunteer touch the casein when the buzz is present while in a bathtub? Might make for an interesting lawsuit.
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Ohh .... let me try *facepalm*
Lol
With the lawyer saying "my client was simply using his tablet in the bath ... whilst charging it"
Good plan batman
_Gir_ said:
My macbook pro does that too. I wouldn't be concerned, just don't take a bath with it.
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didn't someone die from doing that?
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It's the same with the original Transformer, never had any problem whatsoever with that. don't worry it won't eat you, burns your house or erase your HDD (though, I wouldn't try this one if i were you.)
If you want to worry about something related, worry about the AC charger, if it's the same as the original one it definitly looks like a fire hazard.
My aluminium HP laptop also has this. Same for my Desire Z. Nothing to worry about; move along people!
Testing testing...
I intent to take a multimeter to it, as soon as I GET that darned ting, and right after I test for light bleed, Wifi performance wne whetheI am one of the "lucky" one who's GPS actually functions.
MAN, am I glad I got the "Premium" experience of the Transfomer Prime.
I keep on hearing many reviewers calling the USB cover annoying and inconvenient. First of all its brilliant, because it's better have one than to not because long term it brings benefits. It also means that the design doesn't cut any corners interms of how a mobile phone should be. I realised this when I noticed that all good phones before iPhone all had these flaps even samsung. But when everything went touchscreen they stopped the flaps, if iPhone or samsung make flaps on thier phones its a brilliant idea, nobody will complain like they didn't when it was a standard to have a flap but when HTC does it or Sony because It's different everyone bashes the idea.
I can remember when all TVs where made out of metal and remotes, now everything is plastic meaning hardware no longer has a quality feel to it. The only tv manufacturers that still use metal are B&O. I know that having a flap is flimsy but compromises have to be made for quality like a Rolex or something prestigious they will look nice but will always be heavy. All I'm trying to say is theirs no need to hate something that was saw as a standard and I'm more than happy to have it because other flagship phones don't which gives it a design advantage, it looks neater and it means more effort has been placed in this handset.
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In my opinion the biggest benefit of the USB cover is waterproofing. Wireless charging and Airdroid cover me for the rest of what the USB cord would be used for.
From the Engadget review, they stated that the USB cover was added to help make the phone splash resistant like the Butterfly, if that's the case then this is awesome. The only issues are that it's going to be harder and more expensive for car docks.
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From the Engadget review, they stated that the USB cover was added to help make the phone splash resistant like the Butterfly, if that's the case then this is awesome. The only issues are that it's going to be harder and more expensive for car docks.
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Motorola's Atrix HD and new Razr line are all splash resistant but they dont have covers
the reason everyone hates on the cover is because it's an extra step needed when connecting a USB, but at the same time because of the wireless charging, you're going to be using the USB port a lot less, thus it's better to have it covered so it wont collect a bunch of dust inside from having it exposed, and at the same time it's not going to be an inconvenience too often to take the cover off when you do need it.
it is a slight pain to have to remove, which is partly why i picked up a charging pad for the office and will soon be picking one up for home. i do like the idea that it is covered though since i do carry my phone in my pocket and its like a lint factory in there.
i am curious to see how an otterbox or other rugged case looks since those usually cover the ports anyway
Nice to hear that you are all adopting the idea of wireless charging, I like the idea but I have a feeling apple will make one and it will charge quicker and look better. I could only imagine the ads for the iPhone 5S bragging about wireless charging as if they invented it and they probably try to patent it.
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Nice to hear that you are all adopting the idea of wireless charging, I like the idea but I have a feeling apple will make one and it will charge quicker and look better. I could only imagine the ads for the iPhone 5S bragging about wireless charging as if they invented it and they probably try to patent it.
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Well apple clearly mentioned they dont like the idea of wireless charging coz you still need to plug a wire in the wireless charger. That said they also didnt like the idea of 7 inch tablet.
I personally like the idea of wireless charging especially with starbucks already providing wireless charging on there tables.
"Well apple clearly mentioned they dont like the idea of wireless charging coz you still need to plug a wire in the wireless charger."
If apple said this ... they should be ashamed because that is wildly poor reasoning ... there is much less effort on the users behalf and a greatly improved experience when you just have to lay your phone down to charge it... that being said I'm sure ape said that because poor reasoning skills are their signature ..
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As soon as I open the box, I'm ripping the thing off. Stupid cover!
Super Awesome USB mod.
I tied a piece of floss to the cover and then tied the floss to a micro usb reader... It is really easy to open now. I always have my micro SD card with me, just waiting for my OTG cable and my setup is complete.
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There are 256 shades of black and white.
It's actually gotten easier for me to open and close. It took some effort for a few days but now I can do it without really struggling. I find it's much easier to put in the non-attached end first.
The only issue I have with it is desk docks or stands won't be as easy to use with the flap in the way. Granted wireless charging would help, but I'm still not particularly sold on it yet.
After trying to live with it for a few days, I'm going to cut my cover off.
Water doesnt scare me!
I think it's something people will get used to after a few times it will feel normal to me it looks more premium but using it probably is fiddly.
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I actually like it.
It cleans the lines up to not see the ugly port.
I don't mind removing it, yes its a tiny bit of a pain, but I think the positives outweigh the negative
mjneubrander said:
Super Awesome USB mod.
I tied a piece of floss to the cover and then tied the floss to a micro usb reader... It is really easy to open now. I always have my micro SD card with me, just waiting for my OTG cable and my setup is complete.
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There are 256 shades of black and white.
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What is on the screen of your phone? Lol
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Mine just ripped off. I still keep it on because I like not having to see a big hole when looking around my phone. I'm going to super glue it back from where it ripped off.
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Holy crap some of you people are so lazy. I could see maybe the flap being a bit annoying, even if you get used to it and it's really not that bad afterwards, but some of you think even having to connect a cable is some huge effort? It's not even a consideration for me that connecting a cable is any real effort at all, and I can't really understand how it could be considered that.
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Holy crap some of you people are so lazy. I could see maybe the flap being a bit annoying, even if you get used to it and it's really not that bad afterwards, but some of you think even having to connect a cable is some huge effort? It's not even a consideration for me that connecting a cable is any real effort at all, and I can't really understand how it could be considered that.
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How did you relate annoying with lazy?
It is a typical annoying HTC move. People wonder why HTC is losing money every year, it is because of crap like this. Sure, it may not seem like big deal but all the little details add up. There are a ton of problems they seem to ignore and now they just added another one.
Flush buttons.
Power button on top of tall or huge phones
USB port on the side of the One X
Dumbest multitasking set up ever
Horrible carousel when scrolling through wallpapers and skins.
USB port flap.
Etc.
The reason the flap is annoying is because that flap will wear out faster that the rest of your phone unless you strictly use wireless charging. Every other high end phone you can keep it mint way easier without a flap you have to open every night or even more with the crap battery.
Here is a pic of the last phone I owned with a cover like that. Over two years of service and beat to hell and back. I'm not to worried about durability. Of it does wear out it looks like it can be pulled out with pliers. Kinda like those plastic things they put in shirts with the price tags on it.
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On a side note I hope they fix this much touted camera. It took me 15 tries to get this pic even this good. I'm not going to have time to bumble around with settings at the spur of the moment.
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Hi,
Has anyone used the original s- view filp cover, particularly black one. Its kind of costly so, I am not sure if its worth its value or should I go for cheap OEM filp covers.
Please comment on its pros or cons.
I've just ordered one. If it arrives and for you is even more interesting I can write an overview.
Please do
I'm also interested in knowing what it can do, particularly if it locks/unlocks the phone when closing/opening. One other thing would be the wireless charging, but I got my hopes down for that...
I already have that flip cover but i didn'n likes its look just like an old phone book and when putting this flip cover i feel the phone looks smaller than without any case .It's totally my view point it depends
It's a little expensive but I think it worth it. It protects the phone well and it does not add much bulk to the phone.
To me one the best features is that I no longer have to have a lock screen on my phone. The phone wakes up when I flip it open and goes into "S-view mode" when I close it and then back to sleep. This mean I can just pull it out of my pocket, flip it open, no need to swipe, do what I have to do and then close it. It make checking things a snap. Also since it protects the screen when I'm not using it I dont use a screen protector.
The s-view mode is also nice. In my case I use it to snap quick pictures and start playing music without even opening the case.
eddi003 said:
It's a little expensive but I think it worth it. It protects the phone well and it does not add much bulk to the phone.
To me one the best features is that I no longer have to have a lock screen on my phone. The phone wakes up when I flip it open and goes into "S-view mode" when I close it and then back to sleep. This mean I can just pull it out of my pocket, flip it open, no need to swipe, do what I have to do and then close it. It make checking things a snap. Also since it protects the screen when I'm not using it I dont use a screen protector.
The s-view mode is also nice. In my case I use it to snap quick pictures and start playing music without even opening the case.
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i quote... it's also very comfortable and the backside of the cover feels better than the original.
The utility of the s-view is -software-side - a little poor IMHO. When you receive a SMS message, the s-view shows it but then you have to open the cover to read all the message. It will be useful also reading mail from s-cover or interact with the IRDA sensor like a remote.
Using s-view for taking memo is also very limitative...the display is not very sensible and the s-pen doesn't work flawlessy.
However, is the best cover for note 3 neo/lite...
edit: can't change the wallpaper of the s-view cover...grrrrrrr....only default colors...
Can someone post a photo of a s cover electrical connection to n3n back. Thanks
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Can someone post a photo of a s cover electrical connection to n3n back. Thanks
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Thanks,
Does this cover have wireless charging ?
djlech said:
Thanks,
Does this cover have wireless charging ?
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I don't check this.
djlech said:
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I don't think so.
Whem i'm right, the golden contacts have something to do with auto sleep/wake up.
Yeap that is right but in Note 3 the top two side contacts can be used for Qi charging.
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Oh, thank you for this info
Does it hog battery? Or is it battery friendly? I have "Rock elegant s view cover" and it hogs on battery life as it doesn't have any hardware.. just an app which works on proximity sensor.. so the app is always active in the background.. and uses more battery than the screen does..
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Evil Eye said:
Does it hog battery? Or is it battery friendly? I have "Rock elegant s view cover" and it hogs on battery life as it doesn't have any hardware.. just an app which works on proximity sensor.. so the app is always active in the background.. and uses more battery than the screen does..
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I have the original S View cover. In replying to your question it does not consume the battery - at least it's not noticeable.
The contacts on the rear part of the cover are for open - close sensor. They are in touch with two contacts in the phone back.
I don't think there is a possibility of wireless charge in Note 3 Neo.
I compared my N7502 with the "full" Note 3 of my friend. "Full" Note 3 it has 5 contacts on the phone back, Note 3 Neo has just two.
Moreover the Flip Cover for "full" Note 3 exists in 2 versions, two prices. One, cheaper, is just with open close sensor - that's my friend's one - with 2 contacts. The other one, more expensive, I suppose with 4 or 5 contacts supports both open - close and wireless charge.
Note 3 Neo has only one version of the cover, with 2 contacts as the phone has only 2 contacts on the back.
The only problem with this cover in case of my DUOS version is if I have the option "Always ask" enabled (concerning the SIM I want to use for make a call), the choose window does not appear in the cover square window, I have to open it to make my choice. I hope it will be corrected with the new firmware.
Thanks mate.. will get the S View cover then
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Hi all,
Got my original S-view cover.
The build quality is really good. It will definitely save your phone if you accidently drop it.
With the cover closed we can receive/reject call, access camera, music player and Action memo. And also see number of missed calls and messages.
However with the cover on we can't see the notification light, which is kind of annoying.
Not sure what the two pins are for on the back. Pretty sure they are not for the s-view function, because my grand 2's cover don't have any pins and still the s-view works fine. Are they for wireless charging?
sourabhkejriwal said:
Hi all,
Got my original S-view cover.
The build quality is really good. It will definitely save your phone if you accidently drop it.
With the cover closed we can receive/reject call, access camera, music player and Action memo. And also see number of missed calls and messages.
However with the cover on we can't see the notification light, which is kind of annoying.
Not sure what the two pins are for on the back. Pretty sure they are not for the s-view function, because my grand 2's cover don't have any pins and still the s-view works fine. Are they for wireless charging?
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Hey, your're RIGHT !!!
I did a small experiment after reading your post. I detached the cover, put a small piece of paper to insulate the contacts and the S View still works indeed !
In this case it must be the wireless charging - no idea what else could it be ?
The best would be to make a try by putting a covered phone on a wireless charger, unfortunatelly I have no access to such one :/
Guys i need your help! I have the s cover,and i cant take a note with the cover on! Whenever i try i get that stupid pop up which you have to click the box and then press ok.However i only see the box, but not the button and as a result i get it every time! I tried making the font smaller but still.... Anyone know a solution?
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Guys i need your help! I have the s cover,and i cant take a note with the cover on! Whenever i try i get that stupid pop up which you have to click the box and then press ok.However i only see the box, but not the button and as a result i get it every time! I tried making the font smaller but still.... Anyone know a solution?
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Looks as it's not implemented in the firmware, same as the SIM choice window when trying to make a call with the cover closed...
This how you have a player having to charge up his gear s? Thats messed up
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In the same boat
Same here. I love this watch but this is ridiculous. And how about some updates!
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That's what I'm waiting for.the update. I can't believe they haven't sent it out yet.
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I've been using a shot novelty shot glass. also missing about 2 updates everyone else seems to be getting in other countries.
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I've been using a shot novelty shot glass. also missing about 2 updates everyone else seems to be getting in other countries.
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I have onle had my watch for a few days, but is this because it doesn't clip on or because it is annoying to clip on? I figured the waist way is to line it up on the one end then push it into place, it fits nice and snug at that point.
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I have onle had my watch for a few days, but is this because it doesn't clip on or because it is annoying to clip on? I figured the waist way is to line it up on the one end then push it into place, it fits nice and snug at that point.
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I never forced mine on. I was always gentle. The clip broke with ease
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this is how i charge. the pic is sideways, not sure why.
the charging clips seem like they were just meant to break. mines broke after a few months.
I'm confused. What problem does socks and bottles solve? Do people using them have broken tabs on their charger or "slots" on their Gear and use the socks and bottles to apply pressure so the pins connect? I know I could end up like others with a broken charger but I have two (work/home) and so far they attach and come off fine. With all the issues reported I look at the clips on both chargers regularly and nothing's changed. Once a non-defective charger's attached I can't see where applying pressure to it would do much to preserve the tabs. If there's something causing them to fail I'm guessing it's stress from repeated attachment and detachment. Granted it's a dumb design for a $300+ device but I'd like to think enough thought went it regarding longevity so if people are affected it's a minority. Time will tell.
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I'm confused. What problem does socks and bottles solve? Do people using them have broken tabs on their charger or "slots" on their Gear and use the socks and bottles to apply pressure so the pins connect? I know I could end up like others with a broken charger but I have two (work/home) and so far they attach and come off fine. With all the issues reported I look at the clips on both chargers regularly and nothing's changed. Once a non-defective charger's attached I can't see where applying pressure to it would do much to preserve the tabs. If there's something causing them to fail I'm guessing it's stress from repeated attachment and detachment. Granted it's a dumb design for a $300+ device but I'd like to think enough thought went it regarding longevity so if people are affected it's a minority. Time will tell.
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yeah adds pressure to broken chargers. eventually the tabs will break. i was always careful with mine, but in months it broke anyways.
I babied mine after reading about the broken tabs also but mine broke after 3 months also. I'm so ticked that Samsung won't own up to this big blunder. It should've been wireless charging to begin with because I've read of peoples charging contacts on the watch corroding and not working any more
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kieso said:
I babied mine after reading about the broken tabs also but mine broke after 3 months also. I'm so ticked that Samsung won't own up to this big blunder. It should've been wireless charging to begin with because I've read of peoples charging contacts on the watch corroding and not working any more
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My biggest concern isn't having to replace a $30 charger (even though I/we shouldn't). It's the pics some people posted of the receiving slots on the $300 Gear S breaking. That's a problem. You spin the wheel and take your chances.
I somehow got status in Samsung's support program and I called about this. I was told if anything happened to my Gear S or charger I'd get an advance replacement. Some relief but I'd rather not have to test it.
Hello All! I read up a lot about the Gear S before making my purchase so was well aware of the tab on the charger breaking. First time using it was difficult to get off; now I just slide it a smidgen to the right & it comes off without me pulling & tugging at it.
So now I have it down to a science.
Snap on; slide off. I hope doing it this way continues to work months from now but only time will tell.
Is this trick somewhere in the manual?
Slide right, gentle pull on the tab... how simple. Much less pressure to detach; easier on the clip. Why isn't Sammy advertising this more? I've ordered two backup chargers on ebay: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/281588490165?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT -fearing the inevitable breakage..
Update: Speak of the Devil; Postman just dropped off chargers as I was posting. Both allow usb connection and charge ok. No LED like the OEM and I'll have to get back to you on standalone spare -charge after I've tested. But at $8.99 US (free Shipping - Apr 27) I have backup for my worn clip.
So I bought two.
Now let's hope the Watch clip stays viable
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Slide right, gentle pull on the tab... how simple. Much less pressure to detach; easier on the clip. Why isn't Sammy advertising this more? I've ordered two backup chargers on ebay: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/281588490165?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT -fearing the inevitable breakage..
Update: Speak of the Devil; Postman just dropped off chargers as I was posting. Both allow usb connection and charge ok. No LED like the OEM and I'll have to get back to you on standalone spare -charge after I've tested. But at $8.99 US (free Shipping - Apr 27) I have backup for my worn clip.
So I bought two.
Now let's hope the Watch clip stays viable
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Lol this is crazy. Im waiting on my replacement charger right now. I ordered three.I figure that the average person will go through three or four within the year.Ill update the thread on the number of replacements used by years end.
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F.Y.I.
Update 2.0: the Cheapies appear to be CHARGER/ADAPTERs only! No LED and no mobile -charge. On the plus side; they work great to leave on the night desk, come with their own usb and seem to charge the watch via generic usb-mobile-battery pack as a work-around...
BTW Did you know that thumb-pressure on the corner of the charger opposite the tab (Speaker corner) will pop it off with almost no effort? Where is that posted? Works on the OEM version, too
Well after the ebay chargers have now stopped staying on the watch, I filed a claim with squaretrade and sent my watch back to them for a refund. I really did love the watch but I cannot justify paying that much money and then having to shove a sock inside the watch opening to charge it every night, and the fact that Samsung could care less about the issue makes me even more upset about this whole thing. I will miss being able to see who calls without picking up my phone but if Samsung does not care any more than this why the heck should we.
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I filed a claim with squaretrade and sent my watch back to them for a refund.
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ST is insurance. When you send your watch/charger back they'll repair it. If the repair cost is higher than the insured value they'll consider it "beyond economic repair" and pay you whatever the max value of the policy you bought is or what's on the receipt you provided them. "I don't like the charger design" isn't grounds for a refund.
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Update 2.0: the Cheapies appear to be CHARGER/ADAPTERs only! No LED and no mobile -charge. On the plus side; they work great to leave on the night desk, come with their own usb and seem to charge the watch via generic usb-mobile-battery pack as a work-around...
BTW Did you know that thumb-pressure on the corner of the charger opposite the tab (Speaker corner) will pop it off with almost no effort? Where is that posted? Works on the OEM version, too
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I never tried that cause I thought it would definitely break. Ill try it when it's time to charge again.
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Step 1: watch any LG G5 teardown video and seperate the glass screen with mobo out of the metal casing.
step 2: on the right side of mobo under the black circle fabric (below the fabric DO NOT REMOVE FABRIC JUST LOOK UNDER IN) YOU WILL SEE 3 little button nubs.
each nub has a little bent peice of metal facing upwards. Each one needs to be pushed up a little more. the problem was they are not hitting the ribbon connection to give them power on the back casing.
you can see an image of it here imgur. com /G76xf8N remove spaces please.
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Can confirm this worked for me, here's an album if y'all want different angles on the phone
Confirmed as working for me too. I've done this mod on 3 phones already, all are a success. LG is horrible... Releasing phones with such blatant defects.
It will stop working after few days, cuz those are volume pins, has nothing to do with gps
If thats the real fix and the battery touches it, I'm almost certain that replacing batteries is causing this. It explains why many are reporting the issue coming back overtime when warranty replacing. My replacement is already getting worse GPS signal
Actually, makes sense these buttons are related to the volume buttons... There are multiple leads on the board connecting to the back of the case directly though, making me think that LG chose to use the "metal backing" as a GPS antenna. I've straightened multiple leads on the board which come in direct contact with the case itself and other elements just in case, but I have a feeling this will be an issue that plagues us G5 users until a hardware revision is done by LG...
Time to shop for another phone. What a bad investment this was...
karendar
wanna hear my story ? Bought S7 01.04.2016, 04.04.2016 was 1st time on warranty service cuz water in front cam, 2nd time 12.06 broke again same problem, last week 3rd time on warranty SAME PROBLEM, now I bought lg g5 with ****ed up GPS , VERY VERY nice.... looks like I'll give a shot to HTC 10 :/
if those 3 pins are gps antena and I dont think so, I'll just solder something to the backplace
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karendar
wanna hear my story ? Bought S7 01.04.2016, 04.04.2016 was 1st time on warranty service cuz water in front cam, 2nd time 12.06 broke again same problem, last week 3rd time on warranty SAME PROBLEM, now I bought lg g5 with ****ed up GPS , VERY VERY nice.... looks like I'll give a shot to HTC 10 :/
if those 3 pins are gps antena and I dont think so, I'll just solder something to the backplace
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Horrible how us early adopters get rimmed...
To be honest, I think those three leads do nothing but placebo after looking at the board... But notice all the leads across the board which connect to the case itself. I think those would be a better spot for GPS and phone antennas... Wish someone had a technical diagram for us.
As for the HTC 10, I've heard good things... Just not sure I'll be able to sell this phone to buy one.
Signal still holding strong today... Getting massive signal with no drops.
Is this problem still present in current versions? Or was it fixed? I can't believe LG still sells this phone with GPS not working? I get a G5 the next days, how can I check if mine has this issue too?
How ? I don' know dude, maybe, but just MAYBE you could install gps status and check it.........
I just read the "fix" and I just realized that this fix is total garbage. It can't work.
"each nub has a little bent peice of metal facing upwards. Each one needs to be pushed up a little more. the problem was they are not hitting the ribbon connection to give them power on the back casing. "
Everyone with normal reasoning can totally realize, that this "mod" will eventually fail again, really really soon, mostly after a few days, and you can read that btw already by lots of people, for example here:
https://m.reddit.com/r/lgg5/comments/4u8m9p/how_to_fix_your_gps_fixed_in_10_minutes/
Metal tends to change after some time or temperature / pressure, and it will fail again.
Why did no one develop a clever, simple and working mod so far? Why not just soldering a bit of liquid silver on the three contacts, with a bit of metal plate on top to make it 1-2mm higher? Or just even more simple: Do it on the backplate contacts.
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I just read the "fix" and I just realized that this fix is total garbage. It can't work.
"each nub has a little bent peice of metal facing upwards. Each one needs to be pushed up a little more. the problem was they are not hitting the ribbon connection to give them power on the back casing. "
Everyone with normal reasoning can totally realize, that this "mod" will eventually fail again, really really soon, mostly after a few days, and you can read that btw already by lots of people, for example here:
https://m.reddit.com/r/lgg5/comments/4u8m9p/how_to_fix_your_gps_fixed_in_10_minutes/
Metal tends to change after some time or temperature / pressure, and it will fail again.
Why did no one develop a clever, simple and working mod so far? Why not just soldering a bit of liquid silver on the three contacts, with a bit of metal plate on top to make it 1-2mm higher? Or just even more simple: Do it on the backplate contacts.
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To me, personally, I don't mind being a little bit critical, but with this response I think you are to direct and judgemental towards the topic starter. Topic starter has given his best to share his practice. And I agree with you this one will probably not last, but let's keep it friendly.
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I just read the "fix" and I just realized that this fix is total garbage. It can't work.
Everyone with normal reasoning can totally realize, that this "mod" will eventually fail again, really really soon, mostly after a few days, and you can read that btw already by lots of people, for example here:
https://m.reddit.com/r/lgg5/comments/4u8m9p/how_to_fix_your_gps_fixed_in_10_minutes/
Metal tends to change after some time or temperature / pressure, and it will fail again.
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your answer is total garbage. ever seen a car that scraped on the ground because the shock absorbers failed due to temperature and high pressure just by existing?
unless you bend them over and over the method will most likely last for many years. you dont have a lot of forces acting on it.
if you make a fixed connection like soldering, the small dynamic forces would eventually weaken the material and it would break after some time. think before insulting somebody's idea
i don't think those are GPS antenna contacts.. as i used to observe that gps antennas usually have 1 or 2 contacts.. never 3! but they could do..
don't know if you read my topic about same issue and another "fix"..
at the moment we have 2 confirmed informations:
1) if you isolate detachable module pin connector you'll get no gps at all
2) gps will work good until you'll detach and reattach battery couple times.
this could explain why LG released this terminal which definitively passes any factory test! ...holy real day-use tests!
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i don't think those are GPS antenna contacts.. as i used to observe that gps antennas usually have 1 or 2 contacts.. never 3!
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we have 3 different gps systems on our phone so 3 makes sense. BDS (beidou) is only to be found on the newest hardware
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we have 3 different gps systems on our phone so 3 makes sense. BDS (beidou) is only to be found on the newest hardware
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thanks, i've also tried this fix and seems working.. but indeed volume rockers are nearby and no other connectors were found.. mistery grows up..
this fix save me, thanks for it, now the gps works fine
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your answer is total garbage. ever seen a car that scraped on the ground because the shock absorbers failed due to temperature and high pressure just by existing?
unless you bend them over and over the method will most likely last for many years. you dont have a lot of forces acting on it.
if you make a fixed connection like soldering, the small dynamic forces would eventually weaken the material and it would break after some time. think before insulting somebody's idea
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You can read, right?
1. look at the link. lots of people already claimed the """mod""" lasted about 2-5 days, then the problem came back.
2. what are you talking about!? Those contacts between the board and the backplate are based up on pressure. The mod just says "try to bend them upwards a bit". THIS MEANS IT WILL TOTALLY GO IN ITS BASE POSITION AGAIN REALLY SOON. It can't work.
3. back to, if you can read. Where did I say soldering it? Right, no where. I said put some layers of conducting anything on the backplates contacts to grow its height.
Not enough forces acting on them? Seriously? So to your logic, this means this problem wouldn't occur in the first place. Pressing with your fingers on the cover at that very place mostly is enough to push them back every time a little bit., also because they're at the very edge of the cover.