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Hi,
I have an issue with the way 2.1 roms handle background processes. Using Cronos 1.4.1 at the moment but the issue is the same in every 2.1 rom I've tried. The issue is not there in 1.5 roms.
In the car I like to run Spotify and CoPilot at the same with Spotify in the background over A2DP. When I do this the music from Spotify starts breaking up and becomes unlistenable. I can fix this by turning off the screen but it starts again when the screen is turned back on. CoPilot isn't a huge amount of good without a screen so this is a pretty bad workaround. I wouldn't complain and just chalk it up to underpowered hardware but I never had this problem with the 1.5 roms.
I've tried overclocking but that doesnt help at all. At a guess I would say that the scheduler is effectively choking Spotify when it's got a another app in the foreground (it isn't just CoPilot that deprives Spotify but most programs that have constantly running processes i.e. games). Web browsing only breaks up the music during page loads.
Is there a way of telling the scheduler to give Spotify a greater or equal priority to foreground apps? Is this something that BFS will solve (or make worse). Is it possible the official kernel will make a difference?
Any help will be much appreciated.
Cheers,
Phil
PS: Apologies if this belongs in the general forum but I thought this is more of a development issue.
You can always try setting a `nice`/renice constant.
I have exactly the same issue with spotify, it seems to have very low priority, I don't know if this is a problem with the spotify app or the way in which android 2.1 deals with it but it does seem to be throttled to the point of stopping when you try and do anything else with your phone while running it.
It didn't appear to be an issue on any of the 1.5 roms and seems to be a lot worse on a Sense 2.1 rom (I don't know if that is because there are a lot more things running in the background)
I used a the "top" command within adb shell and could see that other process, some htc and some standard android were jumping up the cpu usage way higher than spotify and this seemed to cause the music to break up.
I really hope that if the official 2.1 version is released, whatever is causing the issue (sense, android or the spotify app) is fixed!
EDIT: for some reason, trying to load up web pages makes it stutter like crazy!
Hi,
adwinp: you clearly know more than I do. How would I go about setting that?
DarthOps: I'm glad that I'm not the only one that finds this frustrating. I'll check to see if the Music app behaves the same way or if it's just Spotify. If it's just Spotify then maybe it's worth raising a bug report with them. Have you tried it recently in a 1.5 rom? Wondering if the later versions of Spotify still behave fine in 1.5.
Cheers,
Phil
Hey.
I have the same issue with all 2.1 roms. I'm currently using cronos 1.4.1 and it's a bit better than with other roms.
I guess we'll have to wait for the official eclair release before raising a bug report
With 1.5 there's no problem.
I'm using app2sd, are you guys too ?
Yup, but I am pretty sure I've had the same issue using non app2sd roms. I'm trying that scheduler hack somebody put up on the forum, will post my results in a sec.
Update 1:
All the tests were done with Spotify over headphones and not A2DP. Going to test that on my way home in the car.
Spotify and Torque (OBD app that is constantly running and uses BT), saw a possible improvement in that it took a good half a minute before Spotify started breaking up but then it was as bad as before.
Spotify and CoPilot are playing nicely together in the office but the real issue is when the map updates (i.e. moving). Will test on my way home.
Spotify and web browsing: loaded bbc.co.uk and Spotify didn't stutter once.
Spotify and Frozen Bubble: No stutter at all during playing.
This could actually be a workable solution and is promising that maybe BFS based roms will work.
Could you give us some informations about how to do this hack ?
herman3101 said:
Hi,
adwinp: you clearly know more than I do. How would I go about setting that?
DarthOps: I'm glad that I'm not the only one that finds this frustrating. I'll check to see if the Music app behaves the same way or if it's just Spotify. If it's just Spotify then maybe it's worth raising a bug report with them. Have you tried it recently in a 1.5 rom? Wondering if the later versions of Spotify still behave fine in 1.5.
Cheers,
Phil
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You have to edit your initrd (init.rc) and rebuild your boot.img
You have to find out the resource # of the process choking the system and reduce its nice, and upp the one being slow, for example.
The arguments of setrlimit: resource current max
Sorry, should have said. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=689829 has all the details.
Turn usb debugging on and open an adb shell to type in the commands from the post above or alternatively use the gscript method (didn't work for me on Cronos 1.4.1, the SU request FC on me).
adwinp: Wow, think that might well be beyond my capabilities. Is there any way to edit that in adb? Also it's not one program being "nasty" but rather Spotify being too "nice" .
Ok thanks a lot, I'm gonna give it a try
I find that I tend to get stutters when the phone changes between 2G and 3G connections too, I remember some Droid users reporting the same problem
DarthOps said:
I find that I tend to get stutters when the phone changes between 2G and 3G connections too, I remember some Droid users reporting the same problem
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Change your band to WCDMA only:
open dialer, and:
*#*#4636#*#*
Be sure you have good 3G coverage in your region first!
Unfortunately the scheduler hack doesn't fix this for me. Tried it in the car going home and still got lots of stutter when running CoPilot. Possibly a bit better than before. Tried with and without A2DP and it made no difference. Back to the drawing board I guess.
herman3101 said:
Unfortunately the scheduler hack doesn't fix this for me. Tried it in the car going home and still got lots of stutter when running CoPilot. Possibly a bit better than before. Tried with and without A2DP and it made no difference. Back to the drawing board I guess.
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Are you going to raise a bug with Spotify?
Moved as not ROM Dev.
Just tried with the official release, it's worse than with cronos droid.
Back to cronos...
Okay so I took the plunge and installed my first ROM (ICS Collective Base4) among other things with my SGH-I717M (Bell). Everything went very well and here are the issues that despite reading over 500 pages in threads related to these issues, I have not been able to solve them (workarounds, sure). I'm hoping that others can confirm these glitches and whether or not they have been able to remedy them:
-Upon boot, "Unfortunately, the process com.android.phone has stopped". Annoying, but doesn't seem to affect anything. No workaround or solution.
-Baseband "unknown". Tried ODIN flash install AND coming from completely stock phone via CWM flash, neither has remedied this problem. Doesn't seem to affect anything so don't really care.
-Stock calendar application missing - really don't like some of the other calendars, but I can't seem to find the APK file in any other ICS ROM's out there, so I gave up on this. So workaround, no solution.
-Time zone wrong. Workaround is to deselect automatic network management and select the correct timezone. Reverts back to incorrect upon rebooting so apparently only a workaround and no solution.
-Upon booting setCPU max/min speeds are incorrect and you have to open the application for it to correct the speeds. Perhaps it's just the widget that's broken, but for now it's a workaround and I can't seem to figure out a solution. Quandrant benchmarks seem to indicate that if I don't do this, the performance is affected as if the speeds are 1242max/384min and not 1512max/384min.
-Phone freezes on "Power Off", have to hold power button - camera flash goes off and then restarts. Workaround seems to be to use terminal emulator or other applications to reboot, etc. Don't know if there's a solution to this.
-Wallpaper incorrectly zooms - workaround: market applications. No solution that I can find yet.
-Unrelated to the ROM, but V6 Supercharger - I can only get it to report 50% supercharged, even after modifying my services.jar file and following all "step 8" instructions (that was an undertaking!!!). Don't know what's up there, but maybe some of you super-techs have figured it out.
-Only 624MB of RAM available instead of 700MB+ with GB. Haven't heard anything about why this is, so no solution or workaround.
-Doesn't seem to be an ICS keyboard available? I think this can just be installed from the market but I haven't tried it so not sure.
I'm sure there's other things like with Swype, tethering, etc.. etc... that are not working but this is just what I've noticed within the last 8 hours of flashing and trying to set-up and configure. Any comments or helpful suggestions for a n00b like me?
Thank you for any and all feedback. Thank you to all the developers working hard on this fresh release to bring us a solid ROM!
Calender: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/569065/Calendar.apk
Remember, this is a leaked firmware, these bugs are within that leak itself and a few of these issues have been addressed (unknown baseband, etc..) And will be fixed when we release the actual full ROM. this is just the base we shared in the mean time. A few are still present likesome settings not sticking through boot, and the power menu hanging.
Ithink is ur phone acting weird. Only the setcpu speeds not sticking and issue about wallpaper which can easily be fixed by using quicpics are the two issues my phone had. Just dnt use any cpu controller i noticed phone goes to sleep when no cpu controller while when there is cpu controller screen off speed sticks to 384 or 192
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studacris said:
Remember, this is a leaked firmware, these bugs are within that leak itself and a few of these issues have been addressed (unknown baseband, etc..) And will be fixed when we release the actual full ROM. this is just the base we shared in the mean time. A few are still present likesome settings not sticking through boot, and the power menu hanging.
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Absolutely. And considering what I've read about previously leaked versions of Android over the years, this one performs like a champ. Can't wait to see what comes out next, but I figured from what I've read this one works well enough to go the distance and install. Thanks again collective!
Felinos11 said:
Ithink is ur phone acting weird. Only the setcpu speeds not sticking and issue about wallpaper which can easily be fixed by using quicpics are the two issues my phone had. Just dnt use any cpu controller i noticed phone goes to sleep when no cpu controller while when there is cpu controller screen off speed sticks to 384 or 192
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Yeah, just thought I would put my experience out there if it helps anyone or if someone could help me lol. It's very likely some of these are isolated problems, but most of them are problems with the leaked version. I uninstalled setCPU because I think you're right, something likes to nom nom the battery when the screen is off.
Oh and here's something odd which I don't know if anyone else has experienced with ICS or GB, but Terminal Emulator doesn't allow me to type anything unless I capitalize each individual letter. Which of course is useless because it can't accept commands in caps. When I press any key in lowercase it's like I haven't done anything. I had to switch to the pen mode where I scribe each letter and then it puts lowercase letters in for me. Anyone know what's up with this?
This is probably not the best Rom to run for your first flash. I would try one of the official releases in the development thread, unless you are an official tester for The Collective...
Can't wait till they release an official ROM ...
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mk2 love i see im a vr lover Mr helios
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Helios909 said:
Oh and here's something odd which I don't know if anyone else has experienced with ICS or GB, but Terminal Emulator doesn't allow me to type anything unless I capitalize each individual letter. Which of course is useless because it can't accept commands in caps. When I press any key in lowercase it's like I haven't done anything. I had to switch to the pen mode where I scribe each letter and then it puts lowercase letters in for me. Anyone know what's up with this?
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I had that issue in GB... In ICS it seems to be intermittent- sometimes it just works others it doesn't...
And regarding the baseband, not sure about the Collective rom, but DAGr8's ICS rom displays the modem correctly on my Bell Note.
I also had the timezone issue- strangely enough when I disabled network time and timezone, I also stopped get random slowdowns and ANRs.
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We've got the baseband unknown issue fixed in the full ROM. We just haven't released it. Still working on a couple things before we're comfortable sharing.
Hi, here are my thoughts;
1. Flash a CWM ICS modem(fixed it for me). If you cant find a modem use Dagr8's inital version of the ICS leak, it will successfully flash the modem(unlike the initial collective version(post 501 thread). The main point is to ensure you have the correct baseband(should not say unknown).
2. For now, dont supercharge the ICS leak until you have a stable running OS.
3. After fixing the baseband unknown issue(#1), reflash the collective post 501 ICS rom. It is stable, and the cleanup of the bloat was started already.
4. After installing #3, factory reset your phone.
At this point you should have a bloated, but error free ICS on your computer. Make a CWM backup, install titanium backup, and rip out the junk APK's(widgets, samsung/att garbage). Doing this will provide longer battery life and better performance.
No other wipe scripts are needed.
Factory reset BEFORE flash. The cwm script in the zip itself formats /system and /cache before it writes anything.
And the baseband unknown thing isn't a big deal. Its not that you don't have a modem at all, everything still works you get mobile data, its just the os doesn't properly report it.
if you like what you got, i say sit tight, we're working on the full ROM. You won't be disappointed
studacris said:
No other wipe scripts are needed.
Factory reset BEFORE flash. The cwm script in the zip itself formats /system and /cache before it writes anything.
And the baseband unknown thing isn't a big deal. Its not that you don't have a modem at all, everything still works you get mobile data, its just the os doesn't properly report it.
I say if you like what you got, i say sit tight, we're working on the full ROM. You won't be disappointed
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Would be cool if you guys could make a minimalistic style rom without all the makeup and cosmetics and focused on performance
We think its cooler to do BOTH
Cause the guys at Samsung must have left their seeing eye dogs at home when it came time to theme
most of us don't usually do minimalistic... once a stable rom gets out you can expect a variety of themes. Sit tight.
studacris said:
We've got the baseband unknown issue fixed in the full ROM. We just haven't released it. Still working on a couple things before we're comfortable sharing.
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THanks Cris, thats all im waiting for to make the jump to ICS-----is the collectives official - unofficial ics dev thread.
Studacris said:
"We think its cooler to do BOTH
Cause the guys at Samsung must have left their seeing eye dogs at home when it came time to theme"
LOVE IT!... and CAN'T WAIT! Thank you for all you do... and have a few beers on me. PayPal confirmation number: 6RE28092GB801952P
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Thanked you in the ROM threads, but again, very appreciated. Thank you.
Sit tight. what we got cooking is gonna be tasty
Same experience here
well done guys excellent base.... Having the same experiences as helios909...
Really looking forward to the the fully packaged version. Not experiencing problems with cpu speed set on boot.
Face unlock not work properly yet. Device hangs on reboot as reported. Auto update time bug exists. Baseband version unknown. Phone crashes on initial boot. But recovers.
New voice type engine is amazing. As demonstrated here.
Hi xda Community,
at first - BIG THANKS TO ALL OF YOU ACTIVE CUSTOM ROM GUYS!!
With all your FAQs, Videos and postings, you made it possible - and easy - for me, to get rid of the annoying Sony ROM by rooting and installing a custom rom.
Currently I am running CM10 FXP230 on my Xperia U. I know it is not a stable version, but still a great improvement in speed for me and also the first ROM i discovered during my internet research for an alternative to the slow stock sony stuff.
However, i am facing some problems during the daily usage of my phone, perhaps one of you can support me during finding a solution for some of them.
1. Updating ROM
Pretty basic question, just need a confirmaton that i understood it the right way. I download the new Version of the custom rom (e.g.fxp232), copy the zip onto the smartphone and reboot into recovery mode. There i use CMW to first wipe cache and delvik cache, then select and install new version from zip.
Correct way so far?
What about the Google Apps? Do i have to reinstall them too?
Do i have to backup the SD card data and my apps,?
2. The Camera Fix
At the beginning i thought that i could live with an inverted camera due to the fact, that i am not taking many of them with my phone. but during the last weeks i had to face the facts - its important from time to time :cyclops:
During my search in this forum i found a user linking to a file called "FXP231_CM10_CamReverse_Fix".
Does this work only with FXP231, or also earlier and later versions?
How do I install it, like gApps in CMW?
3. Alarm Clock
I am using my phone as an alarm clock almost every day. Its plugged in to recharge during the night. Sometimes the phone crashes during the night time and the alarm is not going off. The display turns dark, no reaction to any button i plress, only the little signal light at the top right is glowing constantly. I have to take out the battery every time and make the same changes in settings over and over again.
Is this the "deepsleep" problem everyone is talking about? Is it connected to the cpu settings - I did select "conservative" there. Whats causing the problem?
4. Dial Pad
Every time i am dialing an unknown number the touchpad is hardly responding. It can take up to 5 minutes to enter all numbers and dial. I already deactivated the T9 contact search, still no improvement. Anyone any similar expieriences?
5.General Custom ROM Question
During my journey through this Community I found out, that there are a lot of different roms available. Some - with only minor changes - based on other custom roms, some based on sony.....whatever. Right now i am totally confused that ROM to use (if the above mentioned problems cant be solved!!)
I just need a quiet fast and reliable ROM to use in daily life - well this is everyones wish i guess......
So what am I doing with my phone? Basically I am just using my phone to call people, use whatsapp, check mails, manage my appointments and take a spontaneus picture from time to time. No Video, Twitter, Facebook, Games and what else is out there...........and no big experiments and time to backup, upgrade and reset my phone stuff every week.
Should I go back to CM9?
Cant I install a "normal google android" rom? Might sound stupid, but isnt there some kind of "pure" rom for all phones, that gives you the same comfort as the sony stock rom (-> update and functionality) ?
Even if there is not THE correct answert to this question, maybe some of you can at least suggest some interesting ROMs, that might fit
uff.....long wall of text, hopefully I could point out my problems good enough to motivate you to spent your time to answer them.
phil.star said:
Hi xda Community,
at first - BIG THANKS TO ALL OF YOU ACTIVE CUSTOM ROM GUYS!!
With all your FAQs, Videos and postings, you made it possible - and easy - for me, to get rid of the annoying Sony ROM by rooting and installing a custom rom.
Currently I am running CM10 FXP230 on my Xperia U. I know it is not a stable version, but still a great improvement in speed for me and also the first ROM i discovered during my internet research for an alternative to the slow stock sony stuff.
However, i am facing some problems during the daily usage of my phone, perhaps one of you can support me during finding a solution for some of them.
1. Updating ROM
Pretty basic question, just need a confirmaton that i understood it the right way. I download the new Version of the custom rom (e.g.fxp232), copy the zip onto the smartphone and reboot into recovery mode. There i use CMW to first wipe cache and delvik cache, then select and install new version from zip.
Correct way so far?
What about the Google Apps? Do i have to reinstall them too?
Do i have to backup the SD card data and my apps,?
2. The Camera Fix
At the beginning i thought that i could live with an inverted camera due to the fact, that i am not taking many of them with my phone. but during the last weeks i had to face the facts - its important from time to time :cyclops:
During my search in this forum i found a user linking to a file called "FXP231_CM10_CamReverse_Fix".
Does this work only with FXP231, or also earlier and later versions?
How do I install it, like gApps in CMW?
3. Alarm Clock
I am using my phone as an alarm clock almost every day. Its plugged in to recharge during the night. Sometimes the phone crashes during the night time and the alarm is not going off. The display turns dark, no reaction to any button i plress, only the little signal light at the top right is glowing constantly. I have to take out the battery every time and make the same changes in settings over and over again.
Is this the "deepsleep" problem everyone is talking about? Is it connected to the cpu settings - I did select "conservative" there. Whats causing the problem?
4. Dial Pad
Every time i am dialing an unknown number the touchpad is hardly responding. It can take up to 5 minutes to enter all numbers and dial. I already deactivated the T9 contact search, still no improvement. Anyone any similar expieriences?
5.General Custom ROM Question
During my journey through this Community I found out, that there are a lot of different roms available. Some - with only minor changes - based on other custom roms, some based on sony.....whatever. Right now i am totally confused that ROM to use (if the above mentioned problems cant be solved!!)
I just need a quiet fast and reliable ROM to use in daily life - well this is everyones wish i guess......
So what am I doing with my phone? Basically I am just using my phone to call people, use whatsapp, check mails, manage my appointments and take a spontaneus picture from time to time. No Video, Twitter, Facebook, Games and what else is out there...........and no big experiments and time to backup, upgrade and reset my phone stuff every week.
Should I go back to CM9?
Cant I install a "normal google android" rom? Might sound stupid, but isnt there some kind of "pure" rom for all phones, that gives you the same comfort as the sony stock rom (-> update and functionality) ?
Even if there is not THE correct answert to this question, maybe some of you can at least suggest some interesting ROMs, that might fit
uff.....long wall of text, hopefully I could point out my problems good enough to motivate you to spent your time to answer them.
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First of all, this is a long question and you must donate me for answering. Haha. Just joking but you need to consider yourself and get experiences.
1. Reboot CWM and install the ROm amd Gapps needs to be reinstalled.
Wipe dalvik cache and cache then reboot. You're updated.
2. It is for FXP231 and so you must install 231 in order to have fixed
3. Go to deepsleep so much in CM10. Some said pretty awesome because it saves battery but it is in deep sleep so you can't really control your phone no more. Like you can't awake in the morning because you are in deep sleep.so hard to wake up. And yes your problem is deep sleep.
4. Use Go Dialer or Touchpal Dialer. Download from Play Store. It will make you better. Stock is still laggy and under development.
5. I run SlimCM which is CM9 and everything works except sound bug and FM Radio. Sound bug can be fix with Viper4Android. Run CM9 which is great, fast and stable.
And I really want to advice you is find out more yourself. It's more getting trouble but you will become more awesome I answer your question short so don't mind me about that but if you need anything, just quote and ask. Bye.
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Sorry for asking again, but most times i just dont have the needed phrase to search for - combines with 50+ pages of results it really drives me crazy sometimes. After making a, lets say really stupid mistake, installing the rom in the beginning, it took me almost ages to find the threat to return to the beginning and reinstall it properly.
Little Zed said:
First of all, this is a long question and you must donate me for answering. Haha. Just joking but you need to consider yourself and get experiences.
3. Go to deepsleep so much in CM10. Some said pretty awesome because it saves battery but it is in deep sleep so you can't really control your phone no more. Like you can't awake in the morning because you are in deep sleep.so hard to wake up. And yes your problem is deep sleep.
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^
Thanks a lot for reading and answering my questions anyway, you got yourself a honest "thanks button klick" as a reward :laugh:
Okay, so now i know that "my deepsleep problem" is kind of a reversed version of almost everyone eleses deepsleep problem. Everyone wants his phone to enter deepsleep, i want to prevent that.
Will this app solve the problem? Deep Sleep Battery Saver
I mean, if I can set the phone to "wake up" short before my alarm time it might work, right?
I read something about Apps causing the problem, especially messenger apps. Can anyone verify that information, or is it some random guess?
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Also I found out, that the Phone should not enter deepsleep while being charged. Unfortunately this seems to happen to mine over and over again.
phil.star said:
Sorry for asking again, but most times i just dont have the needed phrase to search for - combines with 50+ pages of results it really drives me crazy sometimes. After making a, lets say really stupid mistake, installing the rom in the beginning, it took me almost ages to find the threat to return to the beginning and reinstall it properly.
^
Thanks a lot for reading and answering my questions anyway, you got yourself a honest "thanks button klick" as a reward :laugh:
Okay, so now i know that "my deepsleep problem" is kind of a reversed version of almost everyone eleses deepsleep problem. Everyone wants his phone to enter deepsleep, i want to prevent that.
Will this app solve the problem? Deep Sleep Battery Saver
I mean, if I can set the phone to "wake up" short before my alarm time it might work, right?
I read something about Apps causing the problem, especially messenger apps. Can anyone verify that information, or is it some random guess?
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Also I found out, that the Phone should not enter deepsleep while being charged. Unfortunately this seems to happen to mine over and over again.
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DS battery saver is the one for some phones that cannot go into deepsleep. It force the phone to Deep Sleep with some profiles to make your phone not deaf. Good app and I'm using it.
Blah blah blah, anyway, it's the ROM problem I think but you can simply reply FXP's CM10 about the fix No worries. I think you can fix nothing at this stage. And also I thought Alarm app crashing amd screen not waking up is not only the Deep Sleep issues but also the rom bug of excessive Deep Sleep or alarm app not fully functional. Please reply to the rom thread and wait for answer! High Five!!
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Since lag was quite bad upon rooting (at least it was for me, and I even did a full wipe and reset prior), the first thing I did was download Kernel Auditor and start tinkering with it in an attempt to reduce the lag and try to smooth things out. So far, my current settings are working quite well. It runs smooth and the lagginess is virtually nonexistent. It's not 100% perfect, but its damn close.
So here's a couple screens of my current settings, which are being set on boot with no issues. If I figure out a way to export profiles, I'll post that as well.
Please feel free to add onto, improve, elaborate, and/or talk **** (constructively). If you've found something else that has helped, let me know!
As always, I am not responsible if these setting, individually, together, or in any combination cause your phone to give you AIDS, explode, or cause any other undesired effect, up to and including instant super-death.
nvan7891 said:
Since lag was quite bad upon rooting (at least it was for me, and I even did a full wipe and reset prior), the first thing I did was download Kernel Auditor and start tinkering with it in an attempt to reduce the lag and try to smooth things out. So far, my current settings are working quite well. It runs smooth and the lagginess is virtually nonexistent. It's not 100% perfect, but its damn close.
So here's a couple screens of my current settings, which are being set on boot with no issues. If I figure out a way to export profiles, I'll post that as well.
Please feel free to add onto, improve, elaborate, and/or talk **** (constructively). If you've found something else that has helped, let me know!
As always, I am not responsible if these setting, individually, together, or in any combination cause your phone to give you AIDS, explode, or cause any other undesired effect, up to and including instant super-death.
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Just mirrored these setting and will follow up with any negatives. One concern is battery life with the CPU minimum set that high. How is your battery life?
I'm running Stock PF2 with root. Really wanted to run the unlocked rom and liked the peppiness of it, but use wifi calling through sprint at work a lot.
Have u found any further improvements to better battery life?.
Mine was horrible.went back to stock until more stable and better battery life.
jlc403 said:
Mine was horrible.went back to stock until more stable and better battery life.
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I really dont Wana unroot but wow..battery life is horrible and the lag is just to much..I get it tho, it's still in early stages
shooterlgk said:
I really dont Wana unroot but wow..battery life is horrible and the lag is just to much..I get it tho, it's still in early stages
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Flash the 930U firmware. I was in the same boat as you. But I still have most of things I used while rooting: ad blocker; wifi tether; skip track with volume keys. The only that I miss is the youtube adaway, but I found an app on xda that mutes the ads and presses skip for you automatically. My battery life increased greatly and the phone was super smooth when I did this.
lvpre said:
Flash the 930U firmware. I was in the same boat as you. But I still have most of things I used while rooting: ad blocker; wifi tether; skip track with volume keys. The only that I miss is the youtube adaway, but I found an app on xda that mutes the ads and presses skip for you automatically. My battery life increased greatly and the phone was super smooth when I did this.
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I'd really love to but need sprint wifi calling working as I work in a never several days a week with no cell service at all.
Just tried your settings
Hey, just tried all your settings. It helped a lot! However, for the low memory killer, every time I try to change some of the settings like "foreground applications" etc, it reverts back to the original. any tips?
swoopp said:
Hey, just tried all your settings. It helped a lot! However, for the low memory killer, every time I try to change some of the settings like "foreground applications" etc, it reverts back to the original. any tips?
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Lol nevermind went back to stock. Rooted version is not worth it.
lvpre said:
Flash the 930U firmware. I was in the same boat as you. But I still have most of things I used while rooting: ad blocker; wifi tether; skip track with volume keys. The only that I miss is the youtube adaway, but I found an app on xda that mutes the ads and presses skip for you automatically. My battery life increased greatly and the phone was super smooth when I did this.
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I been on 930u for a bit too but how did you get ad blocker and skip track?
There is an issue with the latest list so don't copy it completely. I got a bootloop after restarting my phone today and I had to factory reset... this is as of 10/8/16 at 12:50pm. The list from the 5th of October on back should be fine. I'm currently trying to sort out the issue.
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Here is a list of apps and services which can be disabled on the Note 7 while still maintaining stability; Data, Calling, Texting, MMS, Wi-Fi, Tethering, Bluetooth, GPS, Sync, Camera, EQ, HD Calling, Always On and all the S-Pen features work, but most other things are turned off like Fingerprint, Iris, NFC, Edge Panel, Pay Services, etc... This list isn't meant to be copied exactly by everyone because we all use our devices differently but you can pick and choose what you want to get the optimal performance from your device.
As of 10/6/16 I have 180+ apps and services disabled and today I got over 8 hours of SOT with 11% battery left (over 9 hours projected of SOT based on the days' usage). I didn't use any power saving modes and kept my brightness at a reasonable level so using the device was easy and not annoying due to the brightness being so low. I had location and sync enabled and wasn't doing any unnatural things trying to squeeze out as much battery life as I could. This was real world usage with all the necessary features and background processes running so using the device felt natural and functional. I say this so people don't think I fudged these numbers by doing things like letting my phone sit with the screen on while at the lowest brightness and not using it, or that I was using some power saving modes to squeeze out as much life as possible. My phone ran at full power all day. I've never even toggled power saving mode on my phone before.
Due to XDA's limit on the amount of image uploads I'm going to create two post with the complete list of disabled apps and link them here in the OP.
I'm using EZ Package Disabler (Samsung) from the play store to disable these apps and services. I bought that one because it had the highest rating.
Below here are some updates I posted during the process of figuring out what to disable. The post with the latest date is always going to have the most current and relevant information.
9/30/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68930083&postcount=16
10/2/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68950934&postcount=23
10/3/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68972097&postcount=26 / http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68972131&postcount=27
10/5/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68999679&postcount=33
[UNSTABLE something in this list caused me to bootloop]10/6/16 - 184 Disabled Apps & Services List Part 1 Here and Part 2 Here XML Export File List Here
Why do you bother to own this phone when you disable most of what makes this phone so great? It has a tonne of RAM, tonne of storage, not sure what you are trying to achieve by disabling so much?
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tonymy01 said:
Why do you bother to own this phone when you disable most of what makes this phone so great? It has a tonne of RAM, tonne of storage, not sure what you are trying to achieve by disabling so much?
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Actually, most of the features are still there. I bought it for the S-pen features and all that is still there. Did you go through the list and see what I turned off or are you just replying to reply? If you read my OG post you'd see I said that my goal was to keep the functionality of the device.
This phone is loaded with bloat and useless services and apps that most will never use. All these things can cause battery drain, cpu usage, ram usage, hardware heat, among other things. So why not turn off what is not needed? It doesn't matter how much ram the phone has, why run stuff that doesn't need to run since you aren't using it?
Fingerprint,shealth, Android pay, software updating, iris scanner, gmail, standard email, game launcher, Samsung cloud (much more useful than Google backup as it supports call logs, sms and other recoveries), the emergency alerts, car mode(for operating in car potentially with different launcher suitable for vehicle use) the list goes on and on and I did look, I don't post for no reason.
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Fingerprint,shealth, Android pay, software updating, iris scanner, gmail, standard email, game launcher, the emergency alerts, car mode(for operating in car potentially with different launcher suitable for vehicle use) the list goes on and on and I did look, I don't post for no reason.
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Like I said, I bought it for the S-pen features. What I disabled I don't use and have no use for. Also If I want to use them at any time I can just reenable them. So let's go through your list. Fingerprint, I use swipe or a pin or a pattern. S-health, I use google fit, or nothing since I don't need a smartphone to tell me how to be fit. Android pay, I use cash. Software updating, if I want an update I can manually grab it, I don't need a service running constantly checking for them. Iris scanner, it's stupid and I'll never use it. Gmail, I use inbox and Alto. Standard email, I only have gmail accounts so don't need other email services. Game launcher, I don't play games. Emergency Alerts, seriously? You are just looking for things to justify your post, EA's are useless and annoying when they pop up and have never benefited me once. Car mode, I have no use for it since I drive a 2000 windstar minivan and waze provides me with all I need in a car. Also, you didn't name one thing that makes this phone great but rather things that are basically on all Android's. Again, I bought the phone for the S-pen, all that is still there. Why are you even doing this? your post are as useless as the apps and services I disabled.
Troll flushed where it belongs. Goodbye, no need to be so rude about it.
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It may be more useful to state what battery usage difference has been found / before and after
bonerp said:
It may be more useful to state what battery usage difference has been found / before and after
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Totally agree. I will try testing N7 when I get mine. First factory reset it out of the box (maybe get the update first then factory reset it with recovery). After that set it up keep all apps and see how battery is... the try the disabler I loke to debloat because phone looks much more cleaner then. And any debloat list is totally personal that why I used TB on my rooted devices, this time won't rush to root
Just disable the damn phone, turn it off and stop using it lol
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Why all the hate?
I really don't get when people post about disabling certain features that others get upset. Or use power saver, etc.
This is one of the great things about Android, the ability to customize and mod our phones to our liking. Try doing any of these things with an Iphone, you can't. So this particular user wants to disable Gmail and messages because he uses other services (Inbox is awesome). He reports back that things still seem stable? Great! I am interested in updates to see if he runs into any problems etc
Let's talk about the great features we have, which include the ability to replace core apps if we desire. Don't jump on someone for doing so.
A mouse running into a room at a party doesn't cause chaos, how people react to it does. We are all responsible for our own actions. You don't like how someone else customizes their phone, who cares? Move on to the next post.
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jmitr said:
Why all the hate? I am interested in updates to see if he runs into any problems etc
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Used the phone very heavy today and ran into no real issues. I had to reenable one service because I tried to use the built-in EQ and it made settings crash. I was able to find the cause in less than a minute and reenable it The service that needs to run for the EQ to work is "SoundAlive" on page 8.
Also got 2.75 hours of SOT and 3 hours of gps use and was right at 50% battery left. At the end of tomorrow I'm going to post some screenshots.
Thanks for the list OP, I probably won't be disabling as much as you have but it's great to know what I can kill without messing up the phone. (when I finally get it)
Mdizzle1 said:
Thanks for the list OP, I probably won't be disabling as much as you have but it's great to know what I can kill without messing up the phone. (when I finally get it)
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No problem. I plan on trying to get more added to the list. Once I know what I've added so far is safe and doesn't cause any issues I'll slowly add more.
I appreciate the list too. It is good to know what can be safely disabled and then we can decide what we want to keep or give the heave ho.
Smithfolk4 said:
I appreciate the list too. It is good to know what can be safely disabled and then we can decide what we want to keep or give the heave ho.
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I've done another day of heavy use today and I'm very happy with my results. I had over 3 hours of SOT using auto brightness which stayed on max brightness most of the time since I was outside and I still had over 40% (I estimate I was on track to get very close to 6 hours SOT with max auto brightness!!!) battery left when I got home. I also used GPS for about an hour along with installing app, and constantly doing other stuff on the phone. I'm going to update the OP with some more screenshots. But from these past two full days of very heavy use and no force closes or issues to speak of (other than having to turn SoundAlive back on for the EQ to work) I'm going to say what I've disabled so far is safe and causes no dependency issues. Also, the phone runs very smooth and doesn't get hot at all. Even today with basically 3 straight hours of SOT and max auto brightness the phone never heated up.
Oh! I'm at 101 things disabled now (not including my downloaded disabled apps) which is how I ran it all day today. More to come! Once I feel like I've found everything I can disable safely I'll do a new updated OP with all I found.
9/30/16 screenshots just showing some battery and cpu use stats. In the future I'm going to add some temp stats. If anyone has a good app for monitoring temps let me know even if it's paid. I don't mind buying apps that are good and useful.
Awesome the list is identical to what I disabled excluding iris, finger print, Samsung app store, gmail and sound alive. I can tell my phone lasts longer on a single charge and everything works just as if everything were enabled. For some odd reason I don't like seeing my RAM going over 2GB lol I know I know unused memory is a waste in Android OS.
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Awesome the list is identical to what I disabled excluding iris, finger print, Samsung app store, gmail and sound alive. I can tell my phone lasts longer on a single charge and everything works just as if everything were enabled. For some odd reason I don't like seeing my RAM going over 2GB lol I know I know unused memory is a waste in Android OS.
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I've always hated automation. I can't stand things running without my permission! I've had all startup programs on windows disabled since 2003 Back in the day on Windows XP I got my active running services in task manager to below 20. I'm now at 101 things disabled on the note 7 and I know there is a ton more I can turn off but I'm going about things slowly. I've confirmed that the 101 things I've turned off so far are safe and the phone definitely runs better in every way.
As far as the ram theories and myths about Android it's mostly people repeating their misunderstandings. Of course if you are using the apps in the ram a lot it's good for them to be there because they will load faster but if you are never using those apps and services and they are still sitting in your ram then it's not productive and a waste of resources which will cause the phone to not run optimally. These phones (and computers) come preloaded with tons of stuff running because they are targeted at the average user and not at the power/informed users. Anyone who knows much of anything about computers and how they are setup from the factory knows they are not configured for performance but rather a balance between performance and usability. Of course Android is getting better and better at managing apps and putting them to sleep but there still is nothing better than completely disabling things you don't need and will never use and thereby freeing up resources you can use for things you are actually using...wow! what a concept, have resources there to use for things you actually use! Genius! People seem to act like having ram full just for the sake of having it full is a good thing in Android when that is completely false. Even Android likes to have resources free that it can use for other things.
142 disabled apps and services
So I'm now sitting at 142 things disabled. I'm going to run my current setup for a couple days and see how it goes. I'll report back the results. Hopefully in a week or so I'll have a full list of what can be turned off without having issues.
Looking forward to your end results. Thank You for sharing your experience debloating.