Alright, so it's that time of the year again, HTC has just released a mayor update (and unless they change their minds, the last one, I may add). As I've mentioned before, ever since I got this phone, I've never really been 100% happy with it, so as soon as an official update is rolled out I jump at the chance to update my HOX+'s firmware! As it has been widely mentioned and covered in other threads, the update roll out process has been less than smooth, between a mini update which prepares the phone for the big update, but leaves the phone unable to check for further updates until 24 hours later, widespread problems communicating with the update server in the first place, and having no current RUU available, saying it was a flawed process is an understatement. However, once installed, this update covers a wide range of improvements to the GUI, the performance, and overall user experience.
I've been using the updated firmware for a few days now and so far I can say that it has been a generally positive experience. The phone feels smoother/snappier. The baked-in quick settings in the notification bar is an awesome (if long overdue) feature. The power management settings are more robust. there are more instances in which the phone allows the user to select default actions. The dailer/phone app is also way better than before (although, I still feel that they have really underutilized the screen real state for some of the functions). The updated Music app is also very nice with a lot of features not present before (mostly related to Song Info lookup). The Camera app is also way better. It takes better pictures and allows for more editing options. Audio controls have been beefed up also (loads more control over the volume settings). Another big feature is Blinkfeed. I personally don't use it, but it does work as expected and it's a nice feature to have available.
On the other hand, it can't be all good news. The distorted streaming (Media, not call audio) via Bluetooth (A2DP) bug is STILL un-addressed. I can't believe that a known issue like that, easily fixable in AOSP ROMs, hasn't been fixed in 14 months and 2 mayor updates. It makes me wonder who on earth do they hire to do their quality control and testing (Chimps!?). Also, battery life doesn't seem to have improved much (at least it isn't worse, so I guess that's a good thing).
What about you guys? What has been your experience with it?Share your experiences here!
The Sense 5 UI looks much more up to date, but many of the features I have got used to are missing from the lockscreen & launcher (scrollable dock, 1x1 widgets in the dock, resizable homescreen grid, additional notifications on the lockscreen) so I use third party replacements.
The htc calendar app is improved but it is still nowhere near as good as most of the play store alternatives.
I definitely get better battery life throughout the day. It doesn't seem much better when I'm using the phone, but is drastically improved over previous idle consumption. That may be because I don't use the Sense launcher & Lockscreen so my phone doesn't keep checking the weather outside the window.
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Like everyone has said, the update process left a lot to be desired. In my case I had to wait over a week between the small update and the full one. (I didn't want to play with changing the phones date for various reasons.) Since applying the update, MY battery life seems to be about the same. Performance feels slightly better, at least it's not worse.
I've been having an off again on again love affair with Sense since my first HTC. Sense 4 on my One X+ was ok. Sense 5 on the same phone feels sluggish, and annoying at times. Replacing Sense with Nova Launcher, and any signs of sluggishness disappear. That makes me think it's sense more than the Kernel/OS.
The new lock screen is different, and that's annoying me. I know, I shouldn't use technology if I don't like change, but it just doesn't "feel" right for some reason. I don't care for ANY of the AT&T bloatware that they installed. I spent over 20 minutes disabling what I could.
Overall, I'm happy with the upgrade. Maybe it will keep me on the stock rom for a few months, until I find a new rom that I like better. I'll give it a thumbs up. :good:
Michael
It has really hurt my battery life. It takes unusually too long for the battery to get from 99 to 100%. When I am plugged in and fully charged and go throughmy usual morning ritual of scrolling through Twitter and email, it isn't unusual to drop down from 100 to 94 or 95 (while I'm still plugged into the original HTC charger!). I now have to charge once during the day in addition to overnight. And when my battery is low, when it reaches 14% it drops to 9% in minutes and once getting to 9% it shuts off.
I miss being able to pinch the home screen to quickly get to one of the other home screens. And I really miss the little weather animations when unlocking the phone.
But overall I find it snappier than before.
The update really changed my mind on if I should sell the phone and get a nexus. This update has made everything vastly better. My phone no longer dies at 2 everyday, instead it lasts til dinner (even with data always on!). The lock screen, phone, messaging, camera is finally aesthetically pleasing. Games like Real Racing 3 no longer lags and run hot. I use power saver and all apps are still snappy and smooth. Only thing that will suck is that we won't be able to get more updates (unless they change their minds).
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struff said:
And when my battery is low, when it reaches 14% it drops to 9% in minutes and once getting to 9% it shuts off.
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I get this too, ever since I got the phone. Nice knowing that it isn't just me
Interesting feedback... I'm going to wait until I run the newly released RUU on my phone to compare before vs after results, and see if they differ from what people post here.
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Where can i find this new RUU?
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Interesting feedback... I'm going to wait until I run the newly released RUU on my phone to compare before vs after results, and see if they differ from what people post here.
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I have been having a ton of trouble trying to get this new update to my HOX+. i tried the "check for updates" and either a box comes up that simply say software update and nothing else, or, if the htcDm is already running after the prior attempt, nothing happens at all when i tap the button.
I have looked all over for a RUU for the new update but i simply am not able to find one!
Do you know where i can find the new RUU and/or why "check for updates" does not work?
Whatever help anyone can give me on this one would be highly appreciated!
thanks guys~
I have been emailing with HTC support and I asked them why there are no more weather animations when we unlock the phone and here is their reply:
I apologize for the misunderstanding. In this case, taking into account the update done to your device, as much as I would like to give you a different answer, this feature has been removed in order to optimize the battery life of your device. I do apologize as I know this was not the answer you were looking for.
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So that little 3-4 seconds of leaves blowing or snow or rain was causing battery issues??? As if stupid Blinkfeed uses less juice???
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I have been having a ton of trouble trying to get this new update to my HOX+. i tried the "check for updates" and either a box comes up that simply say software update and nothing else, or, if the htcDm is already running after the prior attempt, nothing happens at all when i tap the button.
I have looked all over for a RUU for the new update but i simply am not able to find one!
Do you know where i can find the new RUU and/or why "check for updates" does not work?
Whatever help anyone can give me on this one would be highly appreciated!
thanks guys~
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Hmmm, HTC seems to have removed the RUU from their website after publishing it! (Weird...)
I contacted HTC and was told that they originally posted it (hence how you were able to get it) but took it down because it was having problems of some sort. They informed me that they would be posting it back up once it wthe RUU was corrected and set for download.
So now it is the waiting game again...
And I have not gotten an OTA push yet and was told by HTC to wait a couple of weeks and call back if I didn't get. So I myself have got to just wait I guess
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Hmmm, my wallpaper doesn't seem to scroll anymore. I am currently using Apex launcher and wallpaper doesn't scroll even though I have set Apex to allow it. Prior to the update it would scroll. I installed another launcher to see if it would scroll and still no dice. Any ideas?
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I contacted HTC and was told that they originally posted it (hence how you were able to get it) but took it down because it was having problems of some sort. They informed me that they would be posting it back up once it wthe RUU was corrected and set for download.
So now it is the waiting game again...
And I have not gotten an OTA push yet and was told by HTC to wait a couple of weeks and call back if I didn't get. So I myself have got to just wait I guess
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Thanks for the info man! I was going to run this weekend the RUU I managed to download, but if that's the case, I'll wait it out...
hopefully this is a FIX for you!
Thanks to el_kangri_gt-r_co_34 for the info!
If your phone wont manually check for updates try downloading the RUU for 1.19 and installing that.
once that is on the device the manual check should find the new 4.2.2 update (or at least mine did)
it will come in as a 13.8MB and then later a second 532.1MB package (you might have to check for update again after the first downloads)
be sure to give el_kangri_gt-r_co_34 thanks over here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2467571&page=33) if this helped!
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Hmmm, my wallpaper doesn't seem to scroll anymore. I am currently using Apex launcher and wallpaper doesn't scroll even though I have set Apex to allow it. Prior to the update it would scroll. I installed another launcher to see if it would scroll and still no dice. Any ideas?
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I've had the same experience. It looks like your best bet will be using Nova Launcher and toggling on its Force Scroll function in Display Look and Feel within Nova's settings. It's usually for devices that can't scroll, but we're one of those now.
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I am getting a little fed up with the sense UI now. For some reason it forces itself to close and takes its time to load up again. This happens everytime I try to come out of an application by pressing the home button.
The black screen appears with the HTC logo like it does when you restart the phone and it takes at least 3 to 4 mins to start the sense UI again. It stalls ever single time. Every single time?
Anyone else havet his problem? I updated the firmware from the HTC website last september, it improved the speed but not as fast as I would like it to be.
I am on the verge to ditch this device and go for HD2 on Windows. Please stop me if you think thats an absurd idea.
i share your dislike for the sense ui, but i think it might be worth waiting a few days for the 2.1 rom to be released.
No dates yet? I didnt even know there was going to be a 2.1 update. Older phones are usually forgotten and sidelined by HTC and the likes
I have experienced this and I think it's android system closing the app because of low memory... I could be wrong. I haven't looked into it but thats my guess.
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I am getting a little fed up with the sense UI now. For some reason it forces itself to close and takes its time to load up again. This happens everytime I try to come out of an application by pressing the home button.
The black screen appears with the HTC logo like it does when you restart the phone and it takes at least 3 to 4 mins to start the sense UI again. It stalls ever single time. Every single time?
Anyone else havet his problem? I updated the firmware from the HTC website last september, it improved the speed but not as fast as I would like it to be.
I am on the verge to ditch this device and go for HD2 on Windows. Please stop me if you think thats an absurd idea.
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I think maybe you are closing the app wrong try pressing the back button instead this closes the app and you end back on the screen you launched the app from
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I am sure thats not the case. The home button should really take you back to the home screen even of the program is still running right? Its just stalling and pee'ing me off.
Im going off the Hero completely because of this and other issues including the lags. Despite updating the firmware, the lag still seems to be prevalent.
Looking into alternatives now. Perhaps the droid of the sony X10.
If anyone has any other suggestions to fix this issue while I wait for the x10 to come out, please do share.
Also, it would help if people would share their opinions on other android products coming into the limelight including the ones mentioned above.
I just tried your way on mine running modaco 3.1 which app is causing the problem for you any app i have running when touch home button it closes and goes back to home page no blank screen or reboot needed
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I am sure thats not the case. The home button should really take you back to the home screen even of the program is still running right? Its just stalling and pee'ing me off.
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Are you using a task killer to automatically kill tasks? If so, is Sense in the ignore list?
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I am sure thats not the case. The home button should really take you back to the home screen even of the program is still running right? Its just stalling and pee'ing me off.
Im going off the Hero completely because of this and other issues including the lags. Despite updating the firmware, the lag still seems to be prevalent.
Looking into alternatives now. Perhaps the droid of the sony X10.
If anyone has any other suggestions to fix this issue while I wait for the x10 to come out, please do share.
Also, it would help if people would share their opinions on other android products coming into the limelight including the ones mentioned above.
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are you still using stock rom??? try using a custom one. a modaco one for example. also, why would you consider droid or wait for the x10 when the nexus is out
Have experienced the same issue using modaco roms.
In my case its when I close the MAIL, EXPLORER, or sometimes SETTINGS app from Advanced task manager.
For some reason those appas seem to be locked into the Sense UI somehow in these roms.
Cant be bothered with the effort of tracking, or fixing it, since I am waiting for the new roms, which hopefully will be better! ;-)
Thanks for your suggestions for moving on to MCR. I am a bit of a wuss when it comes to custom roms. I have never tried them as I am a bit of a noob. I can probably follow instructions, but they need to be written for a 5 year old.
I have heard great things about the MCR and really do want to give it a shot. I dont think it fixes the prevailing lag issue.
Off topic, but I was also reading up on overclocking but apparently no one has been able to achieve the full 528 Mhz on the Hero yet. Any further development I might have missed?
@foxmeister
I am using a task killer and can confirm that the sense UI is ignored. Task Killer is only ever used when I need to shut things down. Its not on autopilot.
@deeren
Nexus is out true, but its bog standard google. No sexy UI like the Sense. Not the best of reviews either. People have been harsh on google it seems. The papers, forums and blogs are rife with the worst google bashing in ages over the nexus. It looks ugly too.
Have you seen the X10 yet? Its gorgeous. The UI seems to be amazing. Same 1Ghz snapdragon, 8MP camera and what not. Beats the nexus hands down.
Full specs: http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/overview/xperiax10#view=specifications
The droid is cool too, although I fear it has the same lag issues as the Hero. I hate lag. My Mrs has the Iphone 3GS and I have not seen any Android phone compare to the speed of the Iphone. Pretty sad.
As for Modaco Rom. Does anyone know where there is a written guide for 5 year olds?
The phone is not rooted or anything, just has the updated Rom from last Sep.
Install Kagudroid. Problem solved.
I had this problem as well! Htc Sense would keep crashing and it kept showing up with force close, each time I would have to turn off the phone and turn it back on to fix it.
Then I saw a thread on here (sorry, couldn't find it again), but if you are using ANY type of task manager, make sure you add "HTC Checkin Service" to exempt, so NEVER end that process.
Once I did that, my phone has NEVER crashed again! Works great!!
The weird thing is, htc sense doesn't crash right away after ending that process, it only crashes later on!
Transformer Prime: Not sure if some of these issues are only isolated to me or everyone experiencing these :
1. I added my gmail and I have about 2k photos on there. When I open Gallery it takes like almost 10 mins to sync. The gallery in general seems to be very slow. Anyone else?
2. At times the screen starts jumping. The only way to fix this is restarting the tablet.
3. The browser is very slow sometimes. Comparing to my phone and computers.it takes almost twice as long.
I have an ipad1 and I'm an android maniac, I really want to love this tablet but every day there seems to be another issue poping up. I'm sure CES will announce some more quadcores soon, I'm in love with android and I like TP but I am starting to reconsider holding on to this since I still have another week to return it. What to do....?
Yeah, the Android Gallery is kinda of sucky and slow, but its not a Prime problem since its that way on nearly all Android Devices. I hope ICS improves this.
The stock browser is also a little sluggish, but I heard this is a known problem in Honeycomb. Once again ICS will hopefully be an improvement.
I have not had any screen jumping. There was an issue with the ASUS boot logo jumping around during boot, but the last firmware fixed that. However, doesn't sound like that was the problem you have described.
You may want to contact ASUS on this, or exchange it. It should definitely not have the display going funky.
Other than the screen issue, you might want to hang onto the Prime until ICS goes out. Honeycomb was a half-baked release anyway caused by manufacturers complaining to Google about not having an iPad competitor version of Android.
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Transformer Prime: Not sure if some of these issues are only isolated to me or everyone experiencing these :
1. I added my gmail and I have about 2k photos on there. When I open Gallery it takes like almost 10 mins to sync. The gallery in general seems to be very slow. Anyone else?
2. At times the screen starts jumping. The only way to fix this is restarting the tablet.
3. The browser is very slow sometimes. Comparing to my phone and computers.it takes almost twice as long.
I have an ipad1 and I'm an android maniac, I really want to love this tablet but every day there seems to be another issue poping up. I'm sure CES will announce some more quadcores soon, I'm in love with android and I like TP but I am starting to reconsider holding on to this since I still have another week to return it. What to do....?
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Do yourself a huge favor and download Opera Mobile browser from the market until Ice Cream Sandwich comes out. It is a million times better than the stock browser!
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Do yourself a huge favor and download Opera Mobile browser from the market until Ice Cream Sandwich comes out. It is a million times better than the stock browser!
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Search for the browser thread where the OP lists a few tweaks to make to the browser through the debug menu. I swear, it makes it like a completely different browser. It's completely smooth. That thread should really be stickied, if you ask me.
mine does none of that with the exception of the sometimes slow browser but to be honest i think that has more to do with my network and whats getting priory at the time since sometimes it's really fast and other times it's very slow, i downloaded a few torrents directly on to it and all went well and was as fast as expected, also netflix doesn't stumble at all either which makes me think the tablet is good but more of a problem with my bandwidth......800 meg movie file took about 10 mins on my 30/30 home connection with other computers running torrents and streaming netflix on the smart tv, so heavy network usage at the time.
but no shaking of the screen or other issues,and pic gallery's load fine after the initial visit, make sure you have your caching turned on in your browser and that your not downloading 2k thumbnails every time you visit the site, or at the very least i'll just say this sounds like a settings issue as opposed to something wrong with the tablet from the factory, maybe also set it up where it only sync's every so often or something, not sure how your setup works but you shouldn't need to be downloading 2k worth of thumbnails and/or pics everytime you log on to something, play with your settings and see what you can come up with....also snych'ing porn always take x3's as long unless your pretty quick if you know what i mean....lol j/k
that said, this is just my experience in the last 4 days i've had this tablet and spent about 6-8 hours a day on it so far.............feels well built in the hand to me so i don;t expect any defects to start showing up from nowhere that aren't related to software in someway or another.
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Search for the browser thread where the OP lists a few tweaks to make to the browser through the debug menu. I swear, it makes it like a completely different browser. It's completely smooth. That thread should really be stickied, if you ask me.
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mine was less smooth to me after the tweaks so i reverted back to default settings and seemed fine again, my understand was the tweaks only helped the responsiveness during the loading of a new page, i could be wrong but that's how i read it, regardless give the new settings a shot , worst case you just revert back like i did.
also play with the synch settings in your gmail account.
those tweaks don't work for everyone. plus it gets reset everytime that browser shuts down. then you have to do that stuff all over again. Opera mobile is your best bet. even with those tweaks, people who tried it said it can't compare to opera mobile. only drawback is flash is sketchy on opera till it gets updated.
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those tweaks don't work for everyone. plus it gets reset everytime that browser shuts down. then you have to do that stuff all over again. Opera mobile is your best bet. even with those tweaks, people who tried it said it can't compare to opera mobile. only drawback is flash is sketchy on opera till it gets updated.
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Interesting. I'm not sure why they don't work for everyone, but they work great for me. The OP updated his original post after he saw he gave the wrong settings at first, so if you haven't visited that thread in a while, it might be worth checking out again.
Also, my settings do not revert every time the browser is closed. The Debug menu disappears, and I have to type about:debug to access the debug settings again, but when I go in there, my changed settings show up as being saved.
And the settings don't just increase the speed of loading my pages. It makes pinching and zooming, as well as scrolling, much more smooth.
All of this will be moot next week anyway once ICS is rolled out
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Interesting. I'm not sure why they don't work for everyone, but they work great for me. The OP updated his original post after he saw he gave the wrong settings at first, so if you haven't visited that thread in a while, it might be worth checking out again.
Also, my settings do not revert every time the browser is closed. The Debug menu disappears, and I have to type about:debug to access the debug settings again, but when I go in there, my changed settings show up as being saved.
And the settings don't just increase the speed of loading my pages. It makes pinching and zooming, as well as scrolling, much more smooth.
All of this will be moot next week anyway once ICS is rolled out
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right, i wish everyone would quit judging this thing till ICS comes out, i get the GPS rants as that won't improve with ICS, but 90% of other complaints should be addressed by ICS, it's just sucks waiting, but doesn't suck as bad as having no TF201 in my hands all together..better to have a prime with gingerbread now and get an update the no prime all together, the only way i'll be disappointed is if CES unvailes another tablet with the same specs but more ram and it ships in the next 2 weeks, lol, don't see that happening, so i'm sticking with mine..
return it and wait for something better next month.
and then wait for something else even better the month after that, and then the month after that.
price/performance (unless GPS w/o wifi is a huge concern for you) there is nothing out there in the near future that will be better than the prime.
the gen1 tablets have shown that asus offers the best bang for the buck.
also, if you want the dock experience, there is nothing that competes. not even the glorious touchpad. :|
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those tweaks don't work for everyone. plus it gets reset everytime that browser shuts down. then you have to do that stuff all over again. Opera mobile is your best bet. even with those tweaks, people who tried it said it can't compare to opera mobile. only drawback is flash is sketchy on opera till it gets updated.
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Exactly on the tweaks. I gave up on that with the Xoom long ago. Face it, the Honeycomb browser stinks period. You want the best (not perfect) experience, go with Opera until ICS comes out. Flash? I have to actually say that Steve Jobs was right on this one. If that is important to you, try to get over it because it is going away. Opera does work with Flash but I do not know what the limitations are.
And I don't think it's related to the SoC. I think it might be more related to Sense, or HTC in general. The phone is fast, but there's some situations where it's very slow. Could be ICS too, I'm not sure. I notice that when switching between apps, or if I go a while without cleaning out open apps, I get a lot of lag. This is a concern because it never happened with my E4GT (I never bothered closing apps on that phone unless they were using GPS or something, and I HAD to).
Also (and here's one I'm sure everyone can try) when I'm looking at a photo in the gallery, and I click the "share" button, it takes 3-4 full seconds before the menu finally pops up. Is this normal? Again, never happened on my old phone. I might just be grasping for straws here, but it's the little things that bug me.
I'm running ViperROM 1.2.1 (I believe), and I've done the dual-core enhancement. I'm also running Nova PRIME.
Anyone else notice these kinds of annoying things?
I think it is sense/htc. Although the current cm9 is still what I'd consider in alpha stage, look at the rom zip, ~200MB vs close to 600MB for the other roms floating around. Add maybe 50-80MB to the cm9 for gapps, and you're still less than half of stock. All that bloatware has to run somehow. I think as time goes on, it'll be determined exactly what can safely be stripped away from sense to reduce bloat. Officially, the phone is hardly a week old, unofficial a bit over 2 weeks. Give it a month or two.
True. Good to know I'm not the only one
I'm actually pleasantly surprised at how popular this phone is with the dev community. I mean, root was available before it was in the hands of the masses, lol.
Can't wait for CM9! Ran CM7 on my OG EVo and LOVED IT! I just hope getting LTE to work on CM9 isn't as painful as getting Wimax to work on CM7
Given how much I used wimax with the old evo, if CM should comeout without functioning LTE, i'll still switch. By that time, LTE should be rolled out in chicago in masses, and hopefully 3g performance will be what it should be (1-1.5mbps down /1mbps up). For what I do, that's more than enough bw.
I already use different third party apps for practically every fundamental function of the phone. Converting from sense to something else will be real easy this time. With the old evo much time was spent trying different apps out to figure out what works best or gives a good user experience.
It would be nice if sense camera functionality was ported over in full. One thing htc did get right with the phone was the camera and the app.
Try a different launcher like Nova Launcher and see if it's still slow.... Maybe try a different rom.
I too have noticed slowdowns when using the phone after some time....
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Try a different launcher like Nova Launcher and see if it's still slow.... Maybe try a different rom.
I too have noticed slowdowns when using the phone after some time....
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OP says he's using Nova Prime.
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It would be nice if sense camera functionality was ported over in full. One thing htc did get right with the phone was the camera and the app.
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Ehhh, it's hit or miss for me. I've taken some very nice shots, but honestly the majority of my low-light shots have looked like absolute crap. The app's native AUTO settings are pretty bad for low-light shooting. Even the presets aren't that good. I have to manually adjust the expose and contrast to get anything remotely good. Daylight shots, however, are absolutely brilliant.
I have the paid version of CameraZOOM FX, but I don't think it plays very well with this camera. The exposure and color levels look good in low-light shots, but the pictures come out very out-of-focus for me. Not sure what that's related to.
But yeah to the other member who mentioned it, I'm using Nova Prime and it made my experience a whole lot better over the Sense launcher. Still not where I want it to be, though
Either way, very happy with the device. Screen is beautiful and the device itself is sexy as hell.
Don't complain if you're using a rom. Roms are not perfect. Not the phone fault. This should be put in that rom's thread
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Don't complain if you're using a rom. Roms are not perfect. Not the phone fault. This should be put in that rom's thread
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No, it shouldn't.
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OP says he's using Nova Prime.
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Hmm that really sucks... I get lag too and it's kinda annoying.... Looks like we'll have to wait for the devs to fix this problem or an update from HTC.
Memory management is much too aggressive with HTC's factory settings. Apps get bumped out of memory too easily. I had the same issue. I suggest you try this -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681183
My device (I'm loathe to call it a phone, it's SO much MORE... ) runs much better with Mr. V's mod - and I still get great battery life.
EDIT: Don't forget to nandroid first!
HTH,
-Jerry
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Memory management is much too aggressive with HTC's factory settings. Apps get bumped out of memory too easily. I had the same issue.
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I have to say I don't think it's just the memory management problem. In fact, I wish there were less "management" and more "memory". In today's world of ICS, large screens, memory-hogging GPUs, and background apps, most Android phones don't have enough memory to run all the apps we would like to have. Especially for power users.
Since the OP was using ViperROM, he/she already has the memory optimizations you pointed suggested. As do I, although, I placed them there manually on Stock. Memory management will only get you so far. I still get quite a bit of performance hits when switching apps. Worse than that though, I get apps that have been killed in the BG and thus didn't fully save state so when I go back to them, I've lost the work I've done. Truly annoying.
HTC (and others) need to get a better imagination in terms of future-proofing (or even now-proofing) their products. I bought the LTEvo based on timing (contract renewal), reviews and loyalty for HTC (been on it since the G1). I can only assume that the reviewers didn't put on many apps when they reviewed the product.
Every time I've upgraded, I've been unhappy with the amount of space available - particularly RAM since the SDcard is upgrade-able. 1GB was "ok" in the GB- era. I'm looking forward to my next upgrade when HTC will (finally) get it right ... I hope.
@ailima -
You're right. I must have been running on fumes when I read the OP.
I tried ViperROM, but went back to stock. I noticed lag after awhile.
On my OG EVO, if I wasn't running CM7.x, I'd either have MikG or Tommy Tomatoes Classic. Both odexed ROMs. IIRC, Aamikam has said that odexed performs better, and I believe him. Also, my experience bears this out. Stock with the dual-core ultimate mod is running way better for me than stock without.
I have an AT&T HTC One arriving shortly as a new customer on AT&T. I understand I have 14 days to try it out, so I want to make sure I put it to a full test. This will be my first HTC device since the Windows Mobile days, so I have a few questions to ask before starting to use my phone. I am not entirely for sure, but I will probably end up rooting and using custom roms, but probably not until the 14 days are over. With that in mind, here are my questions:
1) Should I unlock the bootloader right away? I understand that doing so erases everything on my phone, but it should not cause any problems if I decide to return the phone, right?
2) If I decide to root after the 14 days are up, I do not have to wipe the phone again, do I?
3) If I decide to use a custom rom, do I understand correctly that I will indeed have to wipe the phone again (but not the /sd card contents???) Meaning, my pictures/videos and all that will remain, but I will have to wipe the system?
4) My area does not yet have LTE (coming later this summer), so is there a way for me to turn it off to save on battery, or do I even need to attempt this?
5) I've been using an iPhone 5 since launch and it is still scratch-free without using a case. I'd prefer not to use a case with the One as well, and I only have my phone in my pocket. Is it reasonable to expect that my One will hold up as well as the iPhone 5 in this area?
Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions,
Travis
1.yes,but it will show tampered in the bootloader but att employees don't usually check so as long as you flash the ruu before you return you should be fine
2.yes, you do because unlocking the bootloader causes the phone to wipe
3.yes, it is recommended to wipe only system and data but not your sdcard
4.if you don't have it in your area then you don't even need to mess with it
5.yes, because I've been using my phone for a while now with no case and everything looks fine but sometimes I do put my case on when I'm clummsy.
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1.yes,but it will show tampered in the bootloader but att employees don't usually check so as long as you flash the ruu before you return you should be fine
2.yes, you do because unlocking the bootloader causes the phone to wipe
3.yes, it is recommended to wipe only system and data but not your sdcard
4.if you don't have it in your area then you don't even need to mess with it
5.yes, because I've been using my phone for a while now with no case and everything looks fine but sometimes I do put my case on when I'm clummsy.
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Regarding #2, are you saying that if I am already bootloader unlocked and then decide to root at a later time, I *will* have to completely wipe the phone again? Or is it just the initial bootloader unlock that requires the full wipe?
i seriously doubt you will be returning this phone before the 14 days. especially if your coming from the iphone 5. this is the only phone that rivals the build quality of iphones. i have had mine since the release for tmobile and not one scratch on it. my girl has the iphone 5 and imo it cant touch this phone.
if apple and android had a baby it would be the htc one.
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Regarding #2, are you saying that if I am already bootloader unlocked and then decide to root at a later time, I *will* have to completely wipe the phone again? Or is it just the initial bootloader unlock that requires the full wipe?
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No just the initial bootloader unlock unless you decide to change Roms
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if apple and android had a baby it would be the htc one.
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Well that's exactly what I'm looking for.
I go back and forth between iOS and Android on a yearly basis, it seems. I've had the iPhone 5 since launch on Verizon, and I just returned the Samsung GS4 because it was very laggy and was locking up at least once per day. I'm going to try the HTC One on AT&T (even though the One has just been confirmed for Verizon later this summer) because I am tired of Verizon's policies. I'm tired of them taking longer than anyone else to get phones. I'm tired of their "customizations" like the persistent WIFI notification on the GS4 that no other carrier has. I'm tired of their locked bootloaders and locked down CDMA network. I'm sure AT&T will have its share of frustrations, but LTE is coming in my area this summer and I'm looking to try something different. I'm keeping my Verizon line for now since I have unlimited data on it, but I'm thinking the 5GB plan on AT&T will be more than enough (and I get a 25% discount through my employer).
Thanks for the help, guys.
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Well that's exactly what I'm looking for.
I go back and forth between iOS and Android on a yearly basis, it seems. I've had the iPhone 5 since launch on Verizon, and I just returned the Samsung GS4 because it was very laggy and was locking up at least once per day. I'm going to try the HTC One on AT&T (even though the One has just been confirmed for Verizon later this summer) because I am tired of Verizon's policies. I'm tired of them taking longer than anyone else to get phones. I'm tired of their "customizations" like the persistent WIFI notification on the GS4 that no other carrier has. I'm tired of their locked bootloaders and locked down CDMA network. I'm sure AT&T will have its share of frustrations, but LTE is coming in my area this summer and I'm looking to try something different. I'm keeping my Verizon line for now since I have unlimited data on it, but I'm thinking the 5GB plan on AT&T will be more than enough (and I get a 25% discount through my employer).
Thanks for the help, guys.
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this phone doesnt lag. probably the closes thing to the smoothness of ios. and yea dont get that cdma garbage from verizon at&t,tmo or developer version is the way to go as far as custom rom options at least for now. if you want more in depth info check out mike1986. review of the phone. he has only done the first part of the review but he is a developer over on the international thread for this phone.
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this phone doesnt lag. probably the closes thing to the smoothness of ios. and yea dont get that cdma garbage from verizon at&t,tmo or developer version is the way to go as far as custom rom options at least for now. if you want more in depth info check out mike1986. review of the phone. he has only done the first part of the review but he is a developer over on the international thread for this phone.
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Thanks for the reassurance. The lag on the GS4 was unbearable and even worse than I expected given my previous experience with the GS3 a year ago. Even after turning off every S-feature I could find, enabling the developer options and changing the animations, and disabling as much bloatware as I could, the phone still lagged when scrolling and just felt unresponsive at times.
If I really like it, I don't know how long I'll hold onto my Unlimited Data plan on Verizon. On AT&T, I understand that unlimited data users are throttled after 5GB anyway, right? I think 5GB will be plenty, as I normally hover in the 3-4GB range on Verizon each month (and that's with a good deal of music streaming and Youtube watching). I guess if I go over once in a while, I can afford the $10 for an extra gig now and then.
My only concerns right now are battery life and the buttons. I've seen mixed reports on battery life - some saying it is abysmal, others saying it's actually very good. I'm keeping my expectations tempered as I've just been using two of the better phones in this area (iPhone 5 and GS4). I'm not expecting battery life to be as good as those, but if it can last my through my 8 hours of work (no WIFI there), then I'll be okay.
The buttons, I'm sure I'll get used to. But I'm definitely looking forward to the 4.2.2 update that allows for the long press of Home for Menu, right? Will this also give you the option to get rid of the Menu bar that appears below non-standard apps that don't conform to Google's specs?
For those who are still engaged with the conversation, I have a few more specific questions about customizing if you don't mind... Since this is my first HTC Android device, there are some terms and methods I am not familiar with. I've used the Galaxy Nexus and the GS3 in the past and was able to understand enough to unlock the bootloaders and install custom roms on those devices. However, when reading about the HTC One, there are some things I do not yet understand:
1) I understand that the AT&T, T-Mobile, and International versions are basically identical hardware-wise, right?
2) What is CID, Hboot, and RUU? I don't remember having to deal with any of those terms with the Nexus and GS3. All I understand about the HTC One so far is that I need to unlock the bootloader at HTC's website. I'm sure I can also follow the instructions to root the device. Installing recoveries and custom roms is where things start to get a little foggy for me with this device.
3) I'm probably going to want to stick with a stock rom of some type because I am actually looking forward to some of the HTC features (especially with the camera). If the "Android Experience" rom still has some of the custom software for the camera, etc, then I might be interested in that. Otherwise, I just want to be rooted at 4.2.2 with a debloated device running as smoothly and as stable as possible.
Thanks!
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For those who are still engaged with the conversation, I have a few more specific questions about customizing if you don't mind... Since this is my first HTC Android device, there are some terms and methods I am not familiar with. I've used the Galaxy Nexus and the GS3 in the past and was able to understand enough to unlock the bootloaders and install custom roms on those devices. However, when reading about the HTC One, there are some things I do not yet understand:
1) I understand that the AT&T, T-Mobile, and International versions are basically identical hardware-wise, right?
2) What is CID, Hboot, and RUU? I don't remember having to deal with any of those terms with the Nexus and GS3. All I understand about the HTC One so far is that I need to unlock the bootloader at HTC's website. I'm sure I can also follow the instructions to root the device. Installing recoveries and custom roms is where things start to get a little foggy for me with this device.
3) I'm probably going to want to stick with a stock rom of some type because I am actually looking forward to some of the HTC features (especially with the camera). If the "Android Experience" rom still has some of the custom software for the camera, etc, then I might be interested in that. Otherwise, I just want to be rooted at 4.2.2 with a debloated device running as smoothly and as stable as possible.
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1- yes pretty much the same
2- cid is your phone id which tells you what ruu you need. ruu is the stock rom your phone came with. hboot you really dont need to worry about until we get s-off
3- all the custom sense roms include all the htc features so no worries there
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and btw with the battery life when i first got my htc one battery life was average at best but after a few battery cycles it improved.
first week probably averaged about 10-12 hrs with 6hrs on data with the rest wifi
second week 15-20 hrs with 6 hrs data
after that it pretty much leveled out and i average around 30 hrs 6 hrs on data and anywhere from 4-7 hrs screen time and all data is lte i dont turn data to 4g or 3g to save battery. so the first 7-10 days you might be cutting it close to get through the day on a single charge. a lot depends on signal strength though. i think most of those bad battery threads were from people who just got the phone and battery wasnt good at first. might also be because of stock rom. i flashed a custom sense rom the first day i got the phone
Ok, I got my HTC One today and so far I am loving it! However, I am disappointed to see that there is a persistent notification for "Power Saver". Argh, on the GS4 there was a persistent notification for WIFI (on Verizon), and now this one. What is it with these guys and their non-removable persistent notifications? I guess they think people are that stupid (and maybe most are on), but there should at least be an option to turn it off.
So from what I'm reading, the only thing I can do is to force close it each time, or to root my device and install a mod? Really?
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Ok, I got my HTC One today and so far I am loving it! However, I am disappointed to see that there is a persistent notification for "Power Saver". Argh, on the GS4 there was a persistent notification for WIFI (on Verizon), and now this one. What is it with these guys and their non-removable persistent notifications? I guess they think people are that stupid (and maybe most are on), but there should at least be an option to turn it off.
So from what I'm reading, the only thing I can do is to force close it each time, or to root my device and install a mod? Really?
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yea pretty much but not really an issue for me because i never intended to stay stock
oh and btw s-off has just been released in the international forum so you might want to keep an eye over there. with that you will be able to go back to complete stock without any trace of unlocking and rooting
hows the smoothness for you? i know your an iphone guy and i would like to hear your feedback
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yea pretty much but not really an issue for me because i never intended to stay stock
oh and btw s-off has just been released in the international forum so you might want to keep an eye over there. with that you will be able to go back to complete stock without any trace of unlocking and rooting
hows the smoothness for you? i know your an iphone guy and i would like to hear your feedback
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Yeah, I'm not too worried about the notification either because I will eventually root and rom... not for a while though.
I am in love with the design of the phone, to be an honest. I feel it tops my iPhone in almost every way in terms of hardware. The iPhone is still more smooth, but I think it's more a matter of Apple prioritizing the touch response and animations over everything else. The One is definitely more smooth than the GS4, though, and I noticed that right away. The Facebook app still stutters, but I think that's just Facebook's fault... it stutters if you scroll before everything has loaded.
I've set up Nova launcher with a shortcut to Blinkfeed (which I actually like). Disappointed that I can't use the HTC widgets in Nova, but I'm finding replacements. Charging the battery now (which I read takes longer than average), and tonight at work will be my first "real" test with the phone.
Thanks for replying.
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Yeah, I'm not too worried about the notification either because I will eventually root and rom... not for a while though.
I am in love with the design of the phone, to be an honest. I feel it tops my iPhone in almost every way in terms of hardware. The iPhone is still more smooth, but I think it's more a matter of Apple prioritizing the touch response and animations over everything else. The One is definitely more smooth than the GS4, though, and I noticed that right away. The Facebook app still stutters, but I think that's just Facebook's fault... it stutters if you scroll before everything has loaded.
I've set up Nova launcher with a shortcut to Blinkfeed (which I actually like). Disappointed that I can't use the HTC widgets in Nova, but I'm finding replacements. Charging the battery now (which I read takes longer than average), and tonight at work will be my first "real" test with the phone.
Thanks for replying.
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you can make another screen your home screen with sense launcher so you dont have blinkfeed in your face everytime you unlock the phone. and just so you know i just tried the s-off and it works on my tmo htc one. i successfully got s-off tampered removed and supercid. its confirmed working for at&t also
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you can make another screen your home screen with sense launcher so you dont have blinkfeed in your face everytime you unlock the phone. and just so you know i just tried the s-off and it works on my tmo htc one. i successfully got s-off tampered removed and supercid. its confirmed working for at&t also
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Yes, I figured out the Blinkfeed thing. Right now I am using Nova Launcher with a shortcut to Blinkfeed when I want to use it. The only thing bad about using Nova is that a bunch of the HTC widgets are not there anymore to use. Power toggles, Clocks/Weather, FM Radio widget, etc are all missing when using Nova Launcher. I understand that HTC widgets are only visible when using the Sense launcher? That's a bummer...
So explain again what the advantage of s-off is? Just so you can go back to completely stock if something goes wrong?
I think I will wait for this upcoming 4.2.2 OTA before deciding whether to unlock my bootloader and/or root. I'll take the time right now just to learn the phone and start reading all of the forums.
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Yes, I figured out the Blinkfeed thing. Right now I am using Nova Launcher with a shortcut to Blinkfeed when I want to use it. The only thing bad about using Nova is that a bunch of the HTC widgets are not there anymore to use. Power toggles, Clocks/Weather, FM Radio widget, etc are all missing when using Nova Launcher. I understand that HTC widgets are only visible when using the Sense launcher? That's a bummer...
So explain again what the advantage of s-off is? Just so you can go back to completely stock if something goes wrong?
I think I will wait for this upcoming 4.2.2 OTA before deciding whether to unlock my bootloader and/or root. I'll take the time right now just to learn the phone and start reading all of the forums.
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with s-off and supercid you can install the ruu/ota from any htc one variant except sprint/verizon. but you could use the international ota which is 4.2.2
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with s-off and supercid you can install the ruu/ota from any htc one variant except sprint/verizon. but you could use the international ota which is 4.2.2
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Ah, I see. With the AT&T OTA update rumored to be coming out in the next week or two, I think I'll just wait right now before jumping in.
Ironically, LTE just lit up in my area (Quad Cities, Davenport IA area) last night, so I was able to try that out as well!
So my first night at work with the new phone was very successful. Here are some things I noticed when comparing the One to my normal usage on the iPhone 5 with Verizon:
- LTE speeds on AT&T were comparable to Verizon at my workplace. However, AT&T had better penetration because my iPhone (and past LTE Android phones) would drop down to 3G deep inside the building, whereas AT&T stayed on LTE the whole time. In fact, I think the One has only dropped down to 4G (HSPA+) one or two times since I got it, whereas the Verizon phones constantly change between 3G and LTE.
- Battery life on the One was surprisingly good! My normal 8-hour shift consists mostly of playing Doggcatcher podcasts at 1.5 speed through Bluetooth headphones. I also use the phone on my breaks, along with a bit of Hotspot tethering for my iPad. With my iPhone 5, I'm normally at 40-50% battery life when I leave work, and the One was right about there as well. I would say that the One is very efficient when the screen is off, but a bit of a sucker when using the screen. That's to be expected, especially with that nice bright screen. Overall, I am very pleased and quite relieved to discover that I'll make it through a day of work no problem.
- The speakers are amazing! This is the first phone I can actually listen to music on without cringing. Having the speakers in the front of the phone is huge advantage as well. The iPhone 5 is no slouch in the audio department, but the One is noticeably better.
- I like the screen better on the One compared to the Galaxy S4. The latter has better blacks and contrast, but lacks color accuracy and is practically unviewable outdoors. I am definitely getting spoiled by these high DPI displays! The extra screen real estate on the One compared to the iPhone is liberating. Apple needs to release a larger screen iPhone now - not next year - because nobody who uses the larger 1080p screen is ever going to go back to the puny 4" screen again.
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Travisimo said:
Ah, I see. With the AT&T OTA update rumored to be coming out in the next week or two, I think I'll just wait right now before jumping in.
Ironically, LTE just lit up in my area (Quad Cities, Davenport IA area) last night, so I was able to try that out as well!
So my first night at work with the new phone was very successful. Here are some things I noticed when comparing the One to my normal usage on the iPhone 5 with Verizon:
- LTE speeds on AT&T were comparable to Verizon at my workplace. However, AT&T had better penetration because my iPhone (and past LTE Android phones) would drop down to 3G deep inside the building, whereas AT&T stayed on LTE the whole time. In fact, I think the One has only dropped down to 4G (HSPA+) one or two times since I got it, whereas the Verizon phones constantly change between 3G and LTE.
- Battery life on the One was surprisingly good! My normal 8-hour shift consists mostly of playing Doggcatcher podcasts at 1.5 speed through Bluetooth headphones. I also use the phone on my breaks, along with a bit of Hotspot tethering for my iPad. With my iPhone 5, I'm normally at 40-50% battery life when I leave work, and the One was right about there as well. I would say that the One is very efficient when the screen is off, but a bit of a sucker when using the screen. That's to be expected, especially with that nice bright screen. Overall, I am very pleased and quite relieved to discover that I'll make it through a day of work no problem.
- The speakers are amazing! This is the first phone I can actually listen to music on without cringing. Having the speakers in the front of the phone is huge advantage as well. The iPhone 5 is no slouch in the audio department, but the One is noticeably better.
- I like the screen better on the One compared to the Galaxy S4. The latter has better blacks and contrast, but lacks color accuracy and is practically unviewable outdoors. I am definitely getting spoiled by these high DPI displays! The extra screen real estate on the One compared to the iPhone is liberating. Apple needs to release a larger screen iPhone now - not next year - because nobody who uses the larger 1080p screen is ever going to go back to the puny 4" screen again.
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As you start reading up on the forums you may find the posts about how AT&T "fluffs" the signal. I am running the international trick droid ver 7.0.0 and it does have the same speed just the signal bar is not tweaked for simulated better signal. Also this rom has build options to remove the three dot menu as well as debloat and turn off power save notification. It runs like butter no laggs. I dont have or use FB so i cant speak for it. Keep us posted on how you like it.
I just recently came across numerous articles claiming it was possible to get Android Nougat on a U.S model Galaxy S7. And just yesterday, samsung rolled out the galaxy beta application to the Galaxy App Store. I immediately unrooted and went to the latest firmware, and I downloaded the app. Registered and waited, and 14 hours or so after registering, I received the update. I'm honestly shocked at how good this update is. It's 10x more snappy and quick than it used to be (even after being rooted and debloated), it comes with great features such as a built in blue light filter and being able to change your screen's resolution on the fly, and the battery life is much improved. I've barely scratched the surface on what this new update comes with and just wanted to let the people on this forum know. If you're interested in seeing what it looks like I've attached some screenshots of what it looks like below.
So I got unlocked fw on my wife's Sprint S7 and like how it's bloatfree and runs real smooth. How is the Nougat 7.0 beta update compare to unlocked fw? Is it way smoother then the PJ2 fw? Just wanna see if it's worth it to even go back to PJ2 on her phone and sign up to get the beta update.
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So I got unlocked fw on my wife's Sprint S7 and like how it's bloatfree and runs real smooth. How is the Nougat 7.0 beta update compare to unlocked fw? Is it way smoother then the PJ2 fw? Just wanna see if it's worth it to even go back to PJ2 on her phone and sign up to get the beta update.
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I won't lie to you, I'm a heavy root user and not having root on Android N sucks. However, it's a lot snappier than the PJ2 firmware, and it just feels a lot quicker in general. The simple materialistic look it has is great, and apps install and uninstall very quickly. You can disable nearly all the bloat that it comes with, and I'd definitely recommend trying nougat. It's been very quick and snappy so far, so I would give it a shot. Boot times improved and lag isn't nearly as bad as Android 6.0.1.
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I won't lie to you, I'm a heavy root user and not having root on Android N sucks. However, it's a lot snappier than the PJ2 firmware, and it just feels a lot quicker in general. The simple materialistic look it has is great, and apps install and uninstall very quickly. You can disable nearly all the bloat that it comes with, and I'd definitely recommend trying nougat. It's been very quick and snappy so far, so I would give it a shot. Boot times improved and lag isn't nearly as bad as Android 6.0.1.
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So it's worth losing root?
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So it's worth losing root?
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I'd say it is, I used xposed for so many things (mainly adblocking), and it's annoying to get the ads back, but it's so much faster booting up and just snappier all around, that the speed makes up for the restrictions that come with a rooted device.
All right! The update wasn't showing this morning, but I checked again this afternoon, and there it was!
Came here to post about it and I see that I'm not alone. Still downloading..
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I'd say it is, I used xposed for so many things (mainly adblocking), and it's annoying to get the ads back, but it's so much faster booting up and just snappier all around, that the speed makes up for the restrictions that come with a rooted device.
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Is there a hotspot workaround? Probably only thing holding me back
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Is there a hotspot workaround? Probably only thing holding me back
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Don't know. I use the native hotspot with my plan.
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Don't know. I use the native hotspot with my plan.
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You get it downloaded and installed, if so, how do you like it so far?
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Is there a hotspot workaround? Probably only thing holding me back
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Not yet but I'm researching how to get one, will keep you posted.
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You get it downloaded and installed, if so, how do you like it so far?
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So far, it's looks good. There are plenty touches that are pretty sweet, and some that I am still testing. I also own a Nexus 6, so I know what the raw Android N feels like.
One of my favorite upgrades would be the support for 3rd party apps in the Always-On Display. And for those who don't know, you can now double tap the notification icon while the screen is off (the Always-On Display screen), and it will turn the screen on and open the notification. That is a NICE addition!
I am fond of the fact that stock N groups the notifications by app, and also creates subgroups for each notification from EACH app. For example, 2 Emails and 2 text messages will be categorized into two main notification groups, and each can be expanded to display the individual notification, and can be dismissed separately, or as an "App Group." (my terminology...don't quote me on this) It seems like Samsung removed the ability to do this.
EDIT: Correction about the notification subgroups...it does handle them correctly most of the time, but there are times where it will not. For example, if you get multiple emails from the same person, it might not separate them. That much of the equation is not entirely consistent.
Still more testing....stay tuned.
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So I got unlocked fw on my wife's Sprint S7 and like how it's bloatfree and runs real smooth. How is the Nougat 7.0 beta update compare to unlocked fw? Is it way smoother then the PJ2 fw? Just wanna see if it's worth it to even go back to PJ2 on her phone and sign up to get the beta update.
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I am unrooted, and will probably stay that way for this device (for the time being, at least). I can say that the phone is much faster than Marshmallow. I wouldn't go through the trouble of unrooting, as the Beta program is on a first-come, first-serve basis. Not sure how many people have jumped onto the Beta ship by now.
On the other hand...you could be getting the latest version while having the snappiness that you had before. Up to you....
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So far, it's looks good. There are plenty touches that are pretty sweet, and some that I am still testing. I also own a Nexus 6, so I know what the raw Android N feels like.
One of my favorite upgrades would be the support for 3rd party apps in the Always-On Display. And for those who don't know, you can now double tap the notification icon while the screen is off (the Always-On Display screen), and it will turn the screen on and open the notification. That is a NICE addition!
I am fond of the fact that stock N groups the notifications by app, and also creates subgroups for each notification from EACH app. For example, 2 Emails and 2 text messages will be categorized into two main notification groups, and each can be expanded to display the individual notification, and can be dismissed separately, or as an "App Group." (my terminology...don't quote me on this) It seems like Samsung removed the ability to do this.
EDIT: Correction about the notification subgroups...it does handle them correctly most of the time, but there are times where it will not. For example, if you get multiple emails from the same person, it might not separate them. That much of the equation is not entirely consistent.
Still more testing....stay tuned.
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I am unrooted, and will probably stay that way for this device (for the time being, at least). I can say that the phone is much faster than Marshmallow. I wouldn't go through the trouble of unrooting, as the Beta program is on a first-come, first-serve basis. Not sure how many people have jumped onto the Beta ship by now.
On the other hand...you could be getting the latest version while having the snappiness that you had before. Up to you....
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I haven't had time to fully dive into Nougat yet, but I'm highly disappointed there's no way to modify the notification bar icon placement as icons just pile up on the right and it looks awful. Also I have no idea what they've changed but fingerprint scanning and unlocking the screen has become extremely quick and hardly ever screws up your fingerprint.
Hmmmm...that's interesting. I have to let my notifications pile up to see what you mean. I clear my notifications fairly quickly.
So here's a little more information about the update. For those who have not gotten the update as yet, install your desired themes while on Marshmallow. N Beta does not allow you to install new themes until the N build is officially released.... bummer. However, themes that are alresdy installed will work (as you.csn see, I'm using one as well).
Also, as seen in the screenshot, you can disable the default Samsung keyboard. That's new!
I will be back with more minor updates.
ItsYaminNoodlez said:
Not yet but I'm researching how to get one, will keep you posted.
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Is it carrier branded or more like a universal firmware?
lvpre said:
Is it carrier branded or more like a universal firmware?
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You need to be on the latest firmware of sprint in order to receive if as it's done through the beta program and they verify your device.
AarSyl said:
Hmmmm...that's interesting. I have to let my notifications pile up to see what you mean. I clear my notifications fairly quickly.
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I'm not taking about notification icons I'm talking about when you enable things such as airplane mode, silent, that sort of thing, as they all just sit beside each other to the right.
ItsYaminNoodlez said:
I'm not taking about notification icons I'm talking about when you enable things such as airplane mode, silent, that sort of thing, as they all just sit beside each other to the right.
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Oh, right....not left. Duh! I don't understand why it bothers you though...it seems no different from MM...not unless it bothered you then as well.
AarSyl said:
Hmmmm...that's interesting. I have to let my notifications pile up to see what you mean. I clear my notifications fairly quickly.
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That's why I said I'm disappointed that the feature to do that hasn't been added.
ItsYaminNoodlez said:
That's why I said I'm disappointed that the feature to do that hasn't been added.
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Right. I see that System UI isn't added. Not surprised, though.