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The time has come to admit that my Asus Transformer Infinity (TF700) was a terrible purchase. I've put it online for sale and now I'm looking for a replacement. It's a household gadget, so it gets 4+ hours of use every single day, very often 10+ hours.
The few things that the N10 needs to provide (and TF700 fails to):
1. The tablet should be capable (in practice) to support at least 4 separate user accounts. This really needs to work. I'd love to hear from N10 owners that actually use this feature, it's simply the most important feature for our use (the family + a guest account). The TF700 is a mess in this aspect, switching takes a long time and everything is all kinds of messed up for a long while after switching. But everything is all kinds of messed up most of the time on that tablet, so multi accounts might be really simple and smooth and non-issue with other tablets.
2. The tablet should be capable of running Chrome browser with 15+ tabs at all times. Preferably across multiple user accounts. Again, I'd like N10 users to chime in on this, does the browser get more laggy with increased number of open tabs? Do the pages take longer to load? Worse scrolling performance? Browser crashing? Don't get me started on the TF700 and browsing...
3. actually... there's even not anything else, really... maybe battery capacity. And if there are any widespread problems, please list them, I've been looking for them and I haven't found anything big apart from maybe low WiFi reception? I understand the random reboots are now fixed with 4.4?
What I absolutely DON'T care about:
- benchmarks
- games
Just browsing. Good display, multiple users, loads of tabs. Good performance with browsing.
So, dear N10 users, please tell me, is this the tablet for me?
Yes, if you absolutely can't wait. The next Nexus 10 should arrive soon. It will kicks the current Nexus 10 butt.
But, still, the current Nexus 10 is a solid tablet.
SalsaForte said:
Yes, if you absolutely can't wait. The next Nexus 10 should arrive soon. It will kicks the current Nexus 10 butt.
But, still, the current Nexus 10 is a solid tablet.
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I'm really not after anything butt-kicking, just what I stated above. Thanks for the heads up though, could you maybe elaborate some more, do you have any experience with tab-heavy browsing or multi-user?
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Yes, if you absolutely can't wait. The next Nexus 10 should arrive soon. It will kicks the current Nexus 10 butt.
But, still, the current Nexus 10 is a solid tablet.
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I personally think there may be no next Nexus 10, or if there is, it's certainly not going to arrive soon.
I have the nexus 10 and I use 3 user accounts and it works great but you'll need the 32 gig version to support all of the accounts. I'm sure a fourth will work no problem. With Google chrome though I don't think you can have 15 tabs open at once. I mean you can but they'll probably have to reload when you click on them because chrome isn't very good with tablets. Other browser's might work better though chrome has improved with updates. Next browser is a good alternative.
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I agree with JasW. Maybe there will be a new Nexus 10, but I wouldn't count on it, and I wouldn't expect it until next year. Just buy a used one from someone else selling theirs in anticipation of a refresh.
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kokoon said:
1. The tablet should be capable (in practice) to support at least 4 separate user accounts. This really needs to work. I'd love to hear from N10 owners that actually use this feature, it's simply the most important feature for our use (the family + a guest account). The TF700 is a mess in this aspect, switching takes a long time and everything is all kinds of messed up for a long while after switching. But everything is all kinds of messed up most of the time on that tablet, so multi accounts might be really simple and smooth and non-issue with other tablets.
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The Nexus series of tablets (N7 or N10) with Jelly Bean 4.3 or the new KitKat 4.4 do an absolute fantastic job with multi-user. I share my table with my spouse and two children. Each update brings even more to the multi-user experience.
Switching is pretty quick, so your Asus tablet must have had problems or some serious bloatware.
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2. The tablet should be capable of running Chrome browser with 15+ tabs at all times. Preferably across multiple user accounts. Again, I'd like N10 users to chime in on this, does the browser get more laggy with increased number of open tabs? Do the pages take longer to load? Worse scrolling performance? Browser crashing? Don't get me started on the TF700 and browsing...
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Hmm, Chrome Browser eh? Don't know if I can blame the TF700 for your browsing experiences. Chrome is much better with 4.4, but it's not the best browser for Android. In fact, it's been pretty junky for some time. I'd say it's finally usable as a decent browser in KitKat 4.4. Prior to that, I was a large Firefox user.
With KitKat 4.4, I'm now exclusively Chrome, and I've a number of tabs open.
So for a tab that works great for multi-user and browsing, yeah it's worth it. And even though you don't care about them, the benchmarks and games are great as well
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abdel12345 said:
I have the nexus 10 and I use 3 user accounts and it works great but you'll need the 32 gig version to support all of the accounts.
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While I agree that you should get the 32GB, Google has the multi-user configured to use the same apk files for the applications that happen to exist in each account. So there are not four copies of Chrome for example, just one with multiple settings files. Games and other apps are the same way, one copy of an application that is only available to the accounts it's licensed to in the Google play store.
Cheers, I ordered it, 32GB version.
The TF700 is such a wreck, it's not even worth writing about it. Fingers crossed N10 is the right one for me!
kokoon said:
The time has come to admit that my Asus Transformer Infinity (TF700) was a terrible purchase. I've put it online for sale and now I'm looking for a replacement. It's a household gadget, so it gets 4+ hours of use every single day, very often 10+ hours.
The few things that the N10 needs to provide (and TF700 fails to):
1. The tablet should be capable (in practice) to support at least 4 separate user accounts. This really needs to work. I'd love to hear from N10 owners that actually use this feature, it's simply the most important feature for our use (the family + a guest account). The TF700 is a mess in this aspect, switching takes a long time and everything is all kinds of messed up for a long while after switching. But everything is all kinds of messed up most of the time on that tablet, so multi accounts might be really simple and smooth and non-issue with other tablets.
2. The tablet should be capable of running Chrome browser with 15+ tabs at all times. Preferably across multiple user accounts. Again, I'd like N10 users to chime in on this, does the browser get more laggy with increased number of open tabs? Do the pages take longer to load? Worse scrolling performance? Browser crashing? Don't get me started on the TF700 and browsing...
3. actually... there's even not anything else, really... maybe battery capacity. And if there are any widespread problems, please list them, I've been looking for them and I haven't found anything big apart from maybe low WiFi reception? I understand the random reboots are now fixed with 4.4?
What I absolutely DON'T care about:
- benchmarks
- games
Just browsing. Good display, multiple users, loads of tabs. Good performance with browsing.
So, dear N10 users, please tell me, is this the tablet for me?
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there is no alternative on the market.
there are only two worthy tablets right now:
- nexus 10
- Note 10.1 2014
last one is overloaded with touchwiz from Samsung, which makes it terribly slow.
theoretically speaking you could root and install a custom rom on Note, but since it's just come out there are not many roms available.
SeaFractor said:
The Nexus series of tablets (N7 or N10) with Jelly Bean 4.3 or the new KitKat 4.4 do an absolute fantastic job with multi-user. I share my table with my spouse and two children. Each update brings even more to the multi-user experience.
Switching is pretty quick, so your Asus tablet must have had problems or some serious bloatware.
Hmm, Chrome Browser eh? Don't know if I can blame the TF700 for your browsing experiences. Chrome is much better with 4.4, but it's not the best browser for Android. In fact, it's been pretty junky for some time. I'd say it's finally usable as a decent browser in KitKat 4.4. Prior to that, I was a large Firefox user.
With KitKat 4.4, I'm now exclusively Chrome, and I've a number of tabs open.
So for a tab that works great for multi-user and browsing, yeah it's worth it. And even though you don't care about them, the benchmarks and games are great as well
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While I agree that you should get the 32GB, Google has the multi-user configured to use the same apk files for the applications that happen to exist in each account. So there are not four copies of Chrome for example, just one with multiple settings files. Games and other apps are the same way, one copy of an application that is only available to the accounts it's licensed to in the Google play store.
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Yes but media and movies and stuff like that are only available on the account you put them on unless they use the same Google account and just stream everything. Like if they all wanted to put a movie/music on it it would only be available on one account. The others would have to put it themselves and use more memory. That's how it is for me at least.
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Sure, that's how it should be!
jodvova said:
there is no alternative on the market.
there are only two worthy tablets right now:
- nexus 10
- Note 10.1 2014
last one is overloaded with touchwiz from Samsung, which makes it terribly slow.
theoretically speaking you could root and install a custom rom on Note, but since it's just come out there are not many roms available.
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You can use NOVA launcher if you don't like TouchWiz on Note 10.1 2014. It's really very fast. Mine is fast with TouchWiz but even faster with NOVA.
I feel your pain... Sold my TF700 5 months ago (and the TF201 before that...) and never looked back. If I need a keyboard, Bluetooth is my friend. I think you will be very happy with a 32gb Nexus 10, although 15 tabs in the browser is probably optimistic, at least without lag.
Concerning reboots... I'd say the tablet is 99% safe under 4.4, but the situation was never terrible in the first place.
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Just got the 5.0 OTA last night, thought I'd share my impressions, especially since this is likely the last major update we'll get straight from google.
The update started with a 325 MB download, then a couple minutes staring at circles bouncing around, followed by 10 mins of "optimizing" apps, likely compiling them for ART. New lock screen is a little funny, have to swipe up to go to the homescreen since the circle lock is gone, and notifications show up right away. The notifications pulldown has gone back to only one, with a second or two-finger pull necessary to see quick settings, no idea why this changes with every Android update.
I have a lot more default google apps uninstalled than new apps installed, and they always try to sneak a couple more in with each major OTA update. In this case, it was a new Photos app, that doesn't work at all with Google+ disabled as I have it; a Google Docs app that requires being signed into a google account, replacing the QuickOffice app that was there before, which didn't require signing in and could actually read pdfs; and a Contacts app that I believe I had disabled before, since it's useless on a tablet without phone service. I disabled all three (strangely, there were two Photos apps with the same icon in the Settings, disabled them both), all of them went into the junk pile with Google Play Newsstand and all the rest. This means I don't have a photo/video Gallery app installed anymore, oh well, have to go find one.
They don't seem to have pulled any fast ones with the Settings this time, though the categories have become even harder to touch to select since they take up half the space horizontally but are still thin vertically. Lollipop feels like a step backwards in UI and usability across the board, for example, the new labels are confusingly undifferentiated from clickable options: I tried to hit the Advanced heading in the Chrome Beta settings five times before I realized it was not clickable. Scrolling down the Settings and hitting the bottom makes a strange half-circle shadow show up at the top, no idea what's going on there.
The graphics generally looked strangely jagged and lower-res right after updating, which I especially noticed with the Chrome Beta, which doesn't show each tab separately in the app switcher like advertised, maybe that's for phones only. Another place the graphics are worse are in the data and battery graphs. Maybe that was just after the update though, because Chrome Beta doesn't seem as bad to me now, or maybe I've already gotten used to it. The data usage graph is worse, since I can't change the time period to a week or 10 days anymore and see what's been using up data lately.
Otherwise, my Nexus 10 feels faster across the board, probably because of ART, and battery life seems to have improved when idle. It's strange how this tablet has had such wild swings in idle battery life over the last couple years, with some Android builds lasting 3-4 days when idle with wifi enabled and others going weeks! I like how the battery usage graph now tries to extrapolate how much time you have left if using the tablet, though I could see that image confusing some users.
As for apps, as usual MX Player stopped working after the upgrade because it doesn't recognize the new 5.0 version number, will have to wait for them to update before trying it out. Everything else seems to work fine. Maybe I'll update here once I get a chance to use lollipop more, but it seems to be a strange mix of better performance and going backwards in UI and usability, with a lot of UI changes seemingly made for the sake of changing something, often making it worse.
Why can't google just focus on adding multi-window to base Android, a feature I've wanted for years and which would actually make Android tablets more capable, instead of adding another coat of paint to the UI and needlessly moving things around over and over again? Guess I'll have to go Samsung and put up with touchwiz if I ever want that.
Honest and straight. I've been crying myself hoarse that each iteration of Android seems to entrench more Google apps into the system as an indispensable part of Android, when the truth is that they serve as leaky apps with access to all your "private" data, under the ploy of enhancing user experience! In actual they are only bloatware that need to be disabled / uninstalled to derive any system enhancement. Each UI has little to offer in terms of improvements, while persistent Google bloatware and services that keep running in the background, hogging system resources, and depleting whatever battery advantages the system improvements offered. Personally I'd like to keep away from lollipop till it rises in my expectations.
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I couldn't be happier with Lollipop. I mainly surf internet and it is now 10x faster than before. Battery life is also 50% better. It still offered quickoffice for me in the welcome setup, but i didn't need it because drive can read pdf files.
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... As for apps, as usual MX Player stopped working after the upgrade because it doesn't recognize the new 5.0 version number, will have to wait for them to update before trying it out.
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Use the MX Player beta: https://sites.google.com/site/mxvpen/translation/test-build
Release notes include:
Support HW+ on Android 5.0
Support Pro version on Android 5.0
I've used it on my Nexus 5 with android 5 and it works as well on my HD content as it did no KitKat.
I just stumbled across this nice Ars article that lays out many of the ways lollipop and google are failing at design for larger tablets like the Nexus 10.
I'd have to say, I do enjoy the new OS. It's slightly faster, clean and just works. It's still relatively new so devs (the ones still working on the N10) will eventually catch up. What I don't like is that there seems to be far less free space than before, even with the same setup. This is apparently due to ART from what I've read. 32GB is now the new 8GB. Now if anyone can come up with a 128GB internal memory hack, that would be awesome.
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joakim_one said:
I just stumbled across this nice Ars article that lays out many of the ways lollipop and google are failing at design for larger tablets like the Nexus 10.
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Thanks for this link. It is an interesting read and seems more balanced than some of the "Lollipop is a bug ridden release" hate-bait I've been seeing. I'll write my on comments on the N10 upgrade experience (upgrade less than 24 hours ago) in a few days but I already disagree or at least am less concerned than the article implies about the wasted space issue.
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Thanks for this link. It is an interesting read and seems more balanced than some of the "Lollipop is a bug ridden release" hate-bait I've been seeing. I'll write my on comments on the N10 upgrade experience (upgrade less than 24 hours ago) in a few days but I already disagree or at least am less concerned than the article implies about the wasted space issue.
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I agree with the first part of your post, but I am the opposite on the second part. The wasted space immediately threw me off. Both on lockscreen and notifications panel.
A lot of complaints of lag and freezing seem to be due to not enough random access memory. Shame that a nicely built tablet with great specs (Qi charging, 64-bit processor, vanilla Android) would be useless to many because of this issue.
I got one for $133 new from the Dell outlet with a sweet case for $15 both in red and gave it to Mom for Christmas, knowing that for her use it would be acceptable.
Here's what I found and how I've gotten the tablet to work great and have none of the issues.
1. Stick with the stock KK launcher. Forget Google Now or Nova as these use up too much memory.
2. The stock browser seems to work the best. Dolphin, Boat and others have been reported to be problem free too. Chrome is a no go.
3. Under Developer options shut off the animations as well as limit the background processes.
4. Disable anything you'll never use, and only install the apps needed.
5. Under "Google" account and "search" make sure Google Now is off.
These things may be self evident to some, but you will notice a night and day difference in the way this particular tablet operates if you stick to those things. At $130 it can't be beat.
Apologies for responding to my own post, just wanted to update, apparently Dell pushed out a OTA update recently that updated the kernel and the thing is much improved if not downright zippy now. Still would stick with my suggestions as I've noticed while Chrome may be somewhat usable it will still freeze.
Thanks for the tips. Despite the horrible reviews, I just ordered one from Amazon Warehouse for $75 Very Good condition. At that price, it is worth taking the plunge.
Use the stock browser keep off any RAM hogging apps and you'll like it. For $168 total I got a red one , the official red case and the dell wireless charger. Can't beat that price. It particularly excels as a movie watching device for travel. Good size and format, great battery life and storage with an optional SD card, and a 1080p screen. Seems to handle video playback really well too, stutter free.
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We're taking it on the plane for movies in 3 weeks, so that'll be perfect. Have you tried rooting and Greenify app? That could further help keep the background processes in check. I have a 1st gen; wife will get the 2nd gen, but if I like it enough, I might get another one for myself.
No I haven't mainly because of the amount of bricks being reported. Too much headache and since its my mothers there's no point. Lol. You'll love it for watching movies I swear they look better than on my Nexus 9. Maybe that Intel video enhancer or whatever its got really works well. The speakers are loud and sound great too.
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So I've had the tablet for a week now. The amount of bloatware pre-installed was insane. I was surprised since the 1st gen 3830 came with almost zero. After disabling all bloatware and all google apps, disabling animations, disable sync, disable backup & restore, it's running fairly well. Chrome browser is definitely not happening. Stock browser is good, but opening multiple tabs is still guaranteed to make the tablet lag.
All in all, this is a great tablet for someone who only does one thing at a time (No multiple browser tabs and switching back and forth between apps). 1920 x 1200 Screen is awesome, build quality fantastic, thin and fairly light, 802.11ac wireless, wireless charging, almost pure Android, and good enough battery life. This thing is perfect for my wife and was a steal at $75 from Amazon Warehouse. Got a $7 case from eBay and my wife is loving it. It's a big upgrade from her Nexus 7 2012.
That being said, I will not be picking another one up for myself unless we get a magic update that makes it as fast as my 3830. I like to multitask, so that's priority for me.
P.S. After all updates, I ran Antutu and the tab scored 33,000 vs 24,000 for my 3830. Sadly, real world experience doesn't reflect this.
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So I've had the tablet for a week now. The amount of bloatware pre-installed was insane. I was surprised since the 1st gen 3830 came with almost zero. After disabling all bloatware and all google apps, disabling animations, disable sync, disable backup & restore, it's running fairly well. Chrome browser is definitely not happening. Stock browser is good, but opening multiple tabs is still guaranteed to make the tablet lag.
All in all, this is a great tablet for someone who only does one thing at a time (No multiple browser tabs and switching back and forth between apps). 1920 x 1200 Screen is awesome, build quality fantastic, thin and fairly light, 802.11ac wireless, wireless charging, almost pure Android, and good enough battery life. This thing is perfect for my wife and was a steal at $75 from Amazon Warehouse. Got a $7 case from eBay and my wife is loving it. It's a big upgrade from her Nexus 7 2012.
That being said, I will not be picking another one up for myself unless we get a magic update that makes it as fast as my 3830. I like to multitask, so that's priority for me.
P.S. After all updates, I ran Antutu and the tab scored 33,000 vs 24,000 for my 3830. Sadly, real world experience doesn't reflect this.
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Lol, my mother went from my hand me down N7(2012) to this and so far, with the way I've set it up, she likes it for her style of use. It really is a shame as if the darn thing had 3 (gasp!) gigs of Ram it would be a killer little tablet, the fact that you can pick them up so cheap is another huge plus.
Hi! CJ, I have a Dell Venue 8 3840, and for some reason I'm unaware of, it's WIFI, & BLUETOOTH, have completely being "lost", I.E. the icons, the Settings options etc.... Have " disappeared ".
I would be most grateful for your advice on it's recovery.
Thanks & regards,
Mahil.
Hmmm, never heard of that happening before. I could ask you a bunch of questions to see what may have caused it but instead my advice would be do a reset. Under settings/back up & reset/ factory reset. Back up whatever files you don't want to lose, the cloud works great for that, and then reset. See if that brings it back.
Venue 8 touch screen freezing issue
I had bought my tablet online. It was working well initially. Then suddenly from one day the screen started to freeze once it was not in use for minimum 7-8 seconds although the tab was not hanging, just the tablet touch screen was not responding to touch.
my dell venue 8 3840 has kitkat 4.4.4. WiFi Bluetooth is not working at all. when i press on in the WiFi option, it goes to on but color doesn't change, i mean it keeps grey and it doesn't scan any WiFi signals. nothing happens on the screen. its like frozen. add device and reset options on WiFi menu are also freeze. when i come out of WiFi menu, it automatically turns off. i have already reset my tab 2 3 times to check if the issue resolves but the prob persists. advanced options are working. when i go there, it says mac address and IP address unavailable. and these options are also freeze. am not getting a clue of what has happened and how to get it fixed. plz help.
Dell Venue 8 8340 slow fix
Hey guys,
I have found a solution for the extremely slow performance of the Dell Venue 8 8340. You must disable wi-fi optimization in settings --> wifi --> advanced. After disabling this feature, the tablet runs fairly smooth with no crashing or delays. This may be a temporary fix; however, it does seem to affect the tablets performance. Also, I did not have the time to check if this fix has been posted, sorry for the repeat if it has. Please update on whether or not this tweak works for others.
Setting 'Developer Options' -> 'Background Processes' to 'At most 2 Processes' seems to help with performance. Reboots and updates sometimes reset this to the default though.
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Has anybody else experienced or is experiencing rather poor ram management on their S6e?
I'm finding app refreshes really quite abundant. Yes they refresh quickly in most cases but they are refreshes nether the less.
Worst are apps that dump you out of what you are doing like Tapatalk.
System manager tells me I gave 400mb free and yet app refreshes are a common occurrence.
My nexus 6 rarely has to auto refresh - indeed conversely I can open Tapatalk on that and have to manually refresh to get content. But at least I never get dumped out of a thread and taken back to menu.
The Galaxy S5 was poor enough with memory management, I hoped the 3gb in the S6e would put an end to forced reloads & refreshes but nope.
I have a sim free factory unlocked model, no carrier bloat and have factory restored and still same issue persists.
Its as if Touchwiz despite certain improvements is as memory hungry and uncouth as it ever was.
I know how you feel. RAM is always almost full even if there are no apps running. I can multitask without refreshes if I go to an app for a few seconds. But if I spend like even just a minute then I get a refresh. Even with just one tab on Google Chrome, I get a refresh immediately by just using Facebook for a while. I mean wtf?
I believe it's due to the memory leak on 5.0.1 wait till we get 5.1 to see if they fix this issue
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I believe it's due to the memory leak on 5.0.1 wait till we get 5.1 to see if they fix this issue
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No memory leak is only on nexus devices and related to its particular bootloader - something Samsung device doesn't have. It won't improve if it's not good now.
Graffiti Exploit said:
I know how you feel. RAM is always almost full even if there are no apps running. I can multitask without refreshes if I go to an app for a few seconds. But if I spend like even just a minute then I get a refresh. Even with just one tab on Google Chrome, I get a refresh immediately by just using Facebook for a while. I mean wtf?
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Yep exactly as you describe and it's really quite annoying. Feels like the phone is being gimped by its OS Skin. We shouldn't be having this issue on a 2015 3gb top of range device.
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No memory leak is only on nexus devices and related to its particular bootloader - something Samsung device doesn't have. It won't improve if it's not good now.
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Ah I didn't know that. Thanks for correcting me. I also have this issue as well and hoping this issue is fixed soon from Samsung.
I have this issue too.. Anoys the heck out of me;.. I can pause pandora, and then open another app, and pandora lost its place!
happens a lot more then it should.
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I have this issue too.. Anoys the heck out of me;.. I can pause pandora, and then open another app, and pandora lost its place!
happens a lot more then it should.
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Yep. How come all the so called in depth reviews never mentioned this issue. To me aggressive memory killing and excessive ram usage is far more detrimental to user experience than the odd bit of lag, yet the only thing we kept getting told is how lag free this device would be and how super fast the ram is.... And yet it can barely keep 4 apps in memory for 5 minutes. Its really frustrating.
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Yep. How come all the so called in depth reviews never mentioned this issue. To me aggressive memory killing and excessive ram usage is far more detrimental to user experience than the odd bit of lag, yet the only thing we kept getting told is how lag free this device would be and how super fast the ram is.... And yet it can barely keep 4 apps in memory for 5 minutes. Its really frustrating.
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ikr.. they didnt mention this ram thing at all. are they even used this phone at all to post those reviews?!? I was using an iPhone 6 Plus before, and I never had this issue at all. I hope they can fix this as soon as possible.
I don't think the reviers use it really all that much. I don't think they load a lot of apps like most us users.. Idk it is sad. I also think Pandora for example is weird. Once you hit pause the icon disappears on top. So it's free to get killed. When songza for example, just pauses and keeps an icon on top. I'll almost chalk that up to bad programming. But fb, chrome and whatever, yea.. Sucky
It's really irritating. My 6 plus with 1gb of ram is better than this. What I don't get is you can have 400mb plus of ram available and stuff starts closing. Makes no sense.
I had this issue with my nexus too, and my s5 with lollypop.. I wonder if there is a settinf
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It's really irritating. My 6 plus with 1gb of ram is better than this. What I don't get is you can have 400mb plus of ram available and stuff starts closing. Makes no sense.
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Yep... I have less refreshes with my 6+ too.
The 400mb free ram available thing irks me too - if it's free why isn't it being used ? And what the heck is using up the 2.4gb before it ? Even when I tell it to close all my apps the most I have free is around 700mb which soon drops back to the 400-480mb mark. It's crazy how memory hungry and inefficient it's being.
holy crap! finally!
I've been searching for a thread like this for a week. Just got my phone a few days ago and man the ram management is piss poor. My HTC M7 doesn't have this issue. And yes I've wondered why no review site has mentioned this at all. I mostly noticed it on Chrome.. or even the stock browser. But yes it does this auto refresh crap on other apps as well. I don't know about you guys but I have the AT&The variant non edge and I have 5.0.2.
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I've been searching for a thread like this for a week. Just got my phone a few days ago and man the ram management is piss poor. My HTC M7 doesn't have this issue. And yes I've wondered why no review site has mentioned this at all. I mostly noticed it on Chrome.. or even the stock browser. But yes it does this auto refresh crap on other apps as well. I don't know about you guys but I have the AT&The variant non edge and I have 5.0.2.
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Yeah I have a stock UK/Ireland factory unbranded handset, so its not carrier app fault either unfortunately.
The M7 & M8 are both excellent indeed - with near stock android levels of memory management, which only goes to prove an android skin doesn't have to suck the life out of a device, which is exactly what Touchwiz feels like its doing.
The S5 wasn't great memory management wise, the Note 4 was good but no where near as good as the Note 3 memory wise and sadly the S6e seems very poor especially when you consider it has 3gb. So it seems to me since the Note 3 Samsung's flagships have been getting worse ram management wise rather than better.
I have a €950 flagship phone which handles memory about as good as a Moto G with 1gb.
nookcoloruser said:
Yeah I have a stock UK/Ireland factory unbranded handset, so its not carrier app fault either unfortunately.
The M7 & M8 are both excellent indeed - with near stock android levels of memory management, which only goes to prove an android skin doesn't have to suck the life out of a device, which is exactly what Touchwiz feels like its doing.
The S5 wasn't great memory management wise, the Note 4 was good but no where near as good as the Note 3 memory wise and sadly the S6e seems very poor especially when you consider it has 3gb. So it seems to me since the Note 3 Samsung's flagships have been getting worse ram management wise rather than better.
I have a €950 flagship phone which handles memory about as good as a Moto G with 1gb.
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so you're telling me that the S5 for a year now still has crappy ram management??? that's just crazy and boggles my mind. i seriously don't want to keep this phone for 2 years of this nonsense (i get a new phone every 2 years). if that's the case i might just return this phone. as good as it is, that's almost a deal breaker to me. i always multitask switching from web page to messenger, to camera, sports apps etc.. etc.. then back to web page just to see it auto refresh every time! if i'm just bouncing back and forth between a couple apps within a min or so it doesn't seem to do this but after about 5 mins.. it never fails.. auto refresh is a certain. so sad. i don't want to go back to apple, but right now, i might have to return this phone and wait for iPhone 6S.
what also baffles me is that i don't seem to see much people talking about this issue considering this is a flagship phone and millions have already been sold worldwide.
t0md0 said:
so you're telling me that the S5 for a year now still has crappy ram management??? that's just crazy and boggles my mind. i seriously don't want to keep this phone for 2 years of this nonsense (i get a new phone every 2 years). if that's the case i might just return this phone. as good as it is, that's almost a deal breaker to me. i always multitask switching from web page to messenger, to camera, sports apps etc.. etc.. then back to web page just to see it auto refresh every time! if i'm just bouncing back and forth between a couple apps within a min or so it doesn't seem to do this but after about 5 mins.. it never fails.. auto refresh is a certain. so sad. i don't want to go back to apple, but right now, i might have to return this phone and wait for iPhone 6S.
what also baffles me is that i don't seem to see much people talking about this issue considering this is a flagship phone and millions have already been sold worldwide.
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I think because the phone is otherwise very very fast some folks may not be noticing the refreshes. Its certainly more noticeable on apps that drop you out of what you were doing back to a previous menu screen like Tapatalk.
I think people genuinely want to believe the
Hype that the S6 & S6e are the nirvana of android...
I must admit I too am shocked folks aren't complaining more or are giving the device an easy pass on this issue, but for me its a total PITA.
I will keep the S6e until the next update and hope that has some memory tweaks, but if it doesn't I'll consider just selling it on.
I tiped phonearena about this issu and they announced it today so maybe this will open some eyes in Samsung dep.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Galaxy-S6-exhibiting-overzealous-RAM-management-report-users_id68745
now also up on Sammobile
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/04/28/poor-ram-management-affecting-the-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge/
So far, ive had issues of battery drain with bundled apps such as the AMAZON app store, as most of us here are already aware. I wonder if this ram issue has to do with the same preloaded apps causing issues? What about people who rooted and reinstalled all Play-Store-Reinstallable apps, through the Play store, has that cleared this issue? Maybe the misbehaving apps are taking their system-level privilege a little too far?
Glad some review sites are taking an eye on this. It's actually really annoying. Even my music app constantly shuts off and I have to force it to cause a wake lock for it not to shut off (poweramp has this option)
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Hi,
My Nexus 9 seems to be becoming slower and slower to switch between apps, especially if one of them is Chrome. If I tap on a link in, say, Facebook or Feedly the tablet sometimes sits there for 30 seconds or so before Chrome opens. Other times, if I tap on a search button in an app (the Guardian is a good example) the tablet will sit there for ages before the keyboard comes up, to the point that the watchdog kicks in and asks me if I want to kill the app. This is driving me completely crazy. My Nexus 7 (2013) is way more responsive than my N9. It is marginally better after a reboot or if I clear the cache but it doesn't take long to grind to a halt again.
Do I have a hardware fault with my device or is this a feature of the N9 being a 64-bit device and only having 2G of RAM? And would a custom ROM or kernel make things better? At present I'm unrooted and would prefer to stay running stock 6.0.1 but would consider changing if I'm reasonably confident that it would improve things.
Thanks!
sladflob said:
Hi,
My Nexus 9 seems to be becoming slower and slower to switch between apps, especially if one of them is Chrome. If I tap on a link in, say, Facebook or Feedly the tablet sometimes sits there for 30 seconds or so before Chrome opens. Other times, if I tap on a search button in an app (the Guardian is a good example) the tablet will sit there for ages before the keyboard comes up, to the point that the watchdog kicks in and asks me if I want to kill the app. This is driving me completely crazy. My Nexus 7 (2013) is way more responsive than my N9. It is marginally better after a reboot or if I clear the cache but it doesn't take long to grind to a halt again.
Do I have a hardware fault with my device or is this a feature of the N9 being a 64-bit device and only having 2G of RAM? And would a custom ROM or kernel make things better? At present I'm unrooted and would prefer to stay running stock 6.0.1 but would consider changing if I'm reasonably confident that it would improve things.
Thanks!
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It will definitely improve your tablet. I had same issues before I rooted and ROMed. After I rooted with skipsoft and installed PureNexus I haven't had a single one of my old issues. This tablet is so much faster and responsive. It truly is a completely different tablet. You won't be sorry if you upgrade.
@sladflob, it's the nature of some of our n9's. I read a post from a user two months on Pure nexus Rom (F&I kernel, I believe). Poster said it was still speedy. The 2 months is important because this tab generally does well for 4-6 weeks after a fresh install. I tried Dirty Unicorn over a year ago, but it was worse for me than stock. Since I'd read users saying Facebook created lag, I haven't had it on my tab. Chrome Dev seems to be faster than Chrome. I've also altered dpi which does improve redraw time on Chrome tabs. I just did my monthly reset (coming off dp4 of N), so I'm not flashing anything until the lag returns. At that point, I'm gonna try Pure. Try it.
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