http://www.technologytell.com/gadge...h-smaller-screen-and-tab-trio-tipped-for-mwc/
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"The Z2 Ultra, or however it ends up being called, will allegedly go a little smaller on screen real estate this time around, as it tries to more clearly set itself apart from conventional slates.
So we’re looking at a 6.2, maybe 6-incher, with Full or Quad HD resolution, possibly a souped-up battery (Z Ultra’s was pretty terrible), as well as water and dust protection. Any evidence to support all that? Just the word of a few insiders who’ve been right before.
It’s unclear though if the Z2 Ultra is indeed prepped for an MWC intro, as its predecessor is a measly six months old, but the good news is if Sony delays its launch, it might use the extra time to swap Z Ultra’s Snapdragon 800 SoC for an improved S805."
Any truth or just hot air?
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Battery life is good, 6 hours screen on time sometimes
And if they do that just means no more support from Sony
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waste of time. releasing it now wont improve performance enough!
At the best we'd get the same processor, bigger battery?? better camera...
My bet is that it will be released after a year of the Ultra being released. They certainly don't want to get apples reputation for releasing a new iPhone every quarter!
mias1 said:
http://www.technologytell.com/gadge...h-smaller-screen-and-tab-trio-tipped-for-mwc/
Quote:
"The Z2 Ultra, or however it ends up being called, will allegedly go a little smaller on screen real estate this time around, as it tries to more clearly set itself apart from conventional slates.
So we’re looking at a 6.2, maybe 6-incher, with Full or Quad HD resolution, possibly a souped-up battery (Z Ultra’s was pretty terrible), as well as water and dust protection. Any evidence to support all that? Just the word of a few insiders who’ve been right before.
It’s unclear though if the Z2 Ultra is indeed prepped for an MWC intro, as its predecessor is a measly six months old, but the good news is if Sony delays its launch, it might use the extra time to swap Z Ultra’s Snapdragon 800 SoC for an improved S805."
Any truth or just hot air?
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Time will tell, I'm extremely interested in what happens with the camera & battery next as these will be Deciding factors regarding my next Sony purchase...
Screw that one! I want this one It looks like a "zero bezel" Sony device, and it looks like pure sex. It's probably fake though, but i'm allowed to dream ain't i?
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nah, couldn't use a 0 bezel, us country bumpkins downunder have farmers hands - real hands
Well if sony decides to go smaller I'm no go. This is my wish. I would go to 6.5" smaller Bazel, better camera and battery and full throttle CPU and flash to use as flashlight and that is all I'm wishing.
Sony would not go anything lesser in terms of screen size for the successor as that will be meaningless.
We already have Z1 for the 5 incher, T2 Ultra for the 6 incher. Releasing Z1 Ultra in 6 inch will confuse the market.
Z Ultra family should remain in the 6.5" range to retain the existing market share of people who wants Ultra Screen.
That is the only reason I bought the Ultra, for the screen else, I would get the Z1 instead.
For speculation, I would want a Z1 Ultra to be 6.5", Snapdragon 805, 13MP camera (20MP would be nicer), 3GB Ram.
hamdogg said:
waste of time. releasing it now wont improve performance enough!
At the best we'd get the same processor, bigger battery?? better camera...
My bet is that it will be released after a year of the Ultra being released. They certainly don't want to get apples reputation for releasing a new iPhone every quarter!
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apple? i think you meant samsung. lol
Why they dont bring great camera to Z2 Ultra
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Why they dont bring great camera to Z2 Ultra
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1stly the thickness don't permit a great camera
2ndly if they put a great camera into the Z Ultra then, it might affect the sales of Z1.
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1stly the thickness don't permit a great camera
2ndly if they put a great camera into the Z Ultra then, it might affect the sales of Z1.
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exactly!
Leechoonhwee said:
1stly the thickness don't permit a great camera
2ndly if they put a great camera into the Z Ultra then, it might affect the sales of Z1.
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exactly!
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Right on the money........
Leechoonhwee said:
1stly the thickness don't permit a great camera
2ndly if they put a great camera into the Z Ultra then, it might affect the sales of Z1.
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Seems like the S4 and Note 3 beating each other previous year because of all the more-or-less same feature set. But even if you equipped the Z2 Ultra with the old 13MP sensor of Xperia Z ones that would not eat Z1 market share i guess.. an extra 0.5mm of thickness with extra 500mAh and 13MP + flash + slightly smaller screen at 6.2 inch will be the best bet for the Z2 Ultra.
The law at Sony's design is always this:
Bigger screen, thinner it is, Smaller Screen, thicker it is. All that to improve the in-hand impression of the handset, so if Sony really goes down into 6.2 inch, i won't complain, because lets face it, 6.4inch already 100% fit into any pocket due to passport width reference. So the only way is down (plus the news of the new 2K screen at 6.2inch) but make it slightly thicker. if Sony wants to improve it into, let say, 6.6 inch in the same dimension of the Z Ultra, i'd imagine many things need to be shuffled like how the G2 was designed, with back buttons, thus breaking the omni balance design and losing the waterproof feature.
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Seems like the S4 and Note 3 beating each other previous year because of all the more-or-less same feature set. But even if you equipped the Z2 Ultra with the old 13MP sensor of Xperia Z ones that would not eat Z1 market share i guess.. an extra 0.5mm of thickness with extra 500mAh and 13MP + flash + slightly smaller screen at 6.2 inch will be the best bet for the Z2 Ultra.
The law at Sony's design is always this:
Bigger screen, thinner it is, Smaller Screen, thicker it is. All that to improve the in-hand impression of the handset, so if Sony really goes down into 6.2 inch, i won't complain, because lets face it, 6.4inch already 100% fit into any pocket due to passport width reference. So the only way is down (plus the news of the new 2K screen at 6.2inch) but make it slightly thicker. if Sony wants to improve it into, let say, 6.6 inch in the same dimension of the Z Ultra, i'd imagine many things need to be shuffled like how the G2 was designed, with back buttons, thus breaking the omni balance design and losing the waterproof feature.
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Exactly, however since the Ultra have already built a pool of users, it wouldn't hurt to include even a 20MP into the next successor.
If it gets smaller I won't buy it; I have no interest in a smaller screen after using this for as long as I have.
I'd like for them to make it thicker (So they can do the rest of this), and invest in a bigger battery, more internal storage (16GB on a media device like a phablet is absurd), put an LED light in the thing, and do a routine Screen/Processor update, such as the next Snapdragon iteration (The thing AFTER the current S805's that aren't being used yet but are complete), and making the bezels small enough to accomodate a full 6.5" screen.
If I were to get my absolute dream device, it would be all that, but it uses an actual SD card reader rather than a Micro; I find myself butting heads with 64GB now, but I wouldn't have that problem with 128GB (Or more deliciously those 256GB SD cards out there). Besides that, the incremental upgrades are all I really want.
And for that next device, I'd want them to create a cheaper case with their quality with a bigger battery but less overall size to it.
I personally don't want it to get any thicker. The only reason i tolerate its current size is because of its thinness. Also, they can make it smaller without shrinking the screen. There's quite a bit of bezel on the top and bottom of the Ultra.
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I personally don't want it to get any thicker. The only reason i tolerate its current size is because of its thinness. Also, they can make it smaller without shrinking the screen. There's quite a bit of bezel on the top and bottom of the Ultra.
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I'm still of the opinion that the thing is a little too thin for completely comfortable use; Not much so, since any case at all alleviates this, but it's noticeable. I'm not saying double the thickness or anything, but a little thicker so it's more comfortable to hold would be nice. Mostly, though, I just want them to increase the thickness so they CAN remove the bezels; I'm fairly confident that the only reason the bezels are there is because Sony wanted the claim of being the thinnest.
It's all good with me, as I'll most-likely miss this upgrade and go for the next one anyway, but my wish list would be:
MUCH smaller bezels. They could take 3CM of the height of this thing with no detriment to screen size, just by killing the bezels at the top/bottom.
A53/A57 SoC - The phone is fast enough really, but why not eh? I want to be able to mine at 100KH/s on my phone.
Same screen. Literally, the exact same one would be just fine with me.
That's it really. This is the best phone I've ever owned, but I must admit having used/owned it for months now it is a bit too tall. I can't lift my knees above hip-height with it in my pocket or it stabs me in the groin!
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It's all good with me, as I'll most-likely miss this upgrade and go for the next one anyway, but my wish list would be:
MUCH smaller bezels. They could take 3CM of the height of this thing with no detriment to screen size, just by killing the bezels at the top/bottom.
A53/A57 SoC - The phone is fast enough really, but why not eh? I want to be able to mine at 100KH/s on my phone.
Same screen. Literally, the exact same one would be just fine with me.
That's it really. This is the best phone I've ever owned, but I must admit having used/owned it for months now it is a bit too tall. I can't lift my knees above hip-height with it in my pocket or it stabs me in the groin!
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This is my thoughts exactly. I can't imagine using a smaller screen phone after getting used to this.
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I know the mega just came out. And here in the usa its very rare. Anyone jumping the boat. I think I am. The screen res and the speed of the cpu. Definitely.
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Sony Xperia Z Ultra
Screen: 6.44 inch 1080p Triluminous display (342ppi)
CPU: Snapdragon 800 quad-core Krait 400 @ 2.2Ghz
Memory: 2GB RAM + 16GB storage
Cameras: 8mp back + 2mp front
Dimensions: 179.4 x 92.2 x 6.5 mm (212 g)
Positive points over the Mega
+ Better processor and RAM
+ Higher resolution display
+ Uses pencils and pens as stylus
+ Waterproof and dustproof
Negative points over the Mega
- Has no LED flash
- Non removable battery
- Will not fit regular pockets
- Large bezels
- On-screen buttons will make actual usable screen less than 1080p and 6.44 inches
- More expensive
Spec Comparison
* The Xperia ZU is 11.8mm taller and 4.2mm wider than the Mega
* The Mega has 200mah more batter capacity than the Xperia ZU
* The Xperia ZU is 13 grams heavier than the Mega
* The Xperia ZU is more aimed at the Note 3 not the Mega
gx3k said:
Sony Xperia Z Ultra
Screen: 6.44 inch 1080p Triluminous display (342ppi)
CPU: Snapdragon 800 quad-core Krait 400 @ 2.2Ghz
Memory: 2GB RAM + 16GB storage
Cameras: 8mp back + 2mp front
Dimensions: 79.4 x 92.2 x 6.5 mm (212 g)
Positive points over the Mega
+ Better processor and RAM
+ Higher resolution display
+ Uses pencils and pens as stylus
+ Waterproof and dustproof
Negative points over the Mega
- Has no LED flash
- Non removable battery
- Will not fit regular pockets
- Large bezels
- On-screen buttons will make actual usable screen less than 1080p and 6.44 inches
- More expensive
Spec Comparison
* The Xperia ZU is 11.8mm taller and 4.2mm wider than the Mega
* The Mega has 200mah more batter capacity than the Xperia ZU
* The Xperia ZU is 13 grams heavier than the Mega
* The Xperia ZU is more aimed at the Note 3 not the Mega
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I think the lenght of the Xperia is 179.4mm !! (typo error)
Tilagoon said:
I think the lenght of the Xperia is 179.4mm !! (typo error)
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Corrected, thanks :laugh:
I'm very tempted to buy the Mega 6.3 this week as I can get the White 16GB LTE version for £377 from eBay.
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Corrected, thanks :laugh:
I'm very tempted to buy the Mega 6.3 this week as I can get the White 16GB LTE version for £377 from eBay.
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Which seller is that from?
If the shape is like on the few speculation pictures, it is out of the question. I carry my mega in the front jeans
pocket, therefor the edges must be rounded. I have a Sony Xperia S and I dislike the sharp edges alot.
Also, the mega has fantastic battery time and belive it or not my cpu processing is fast and the GPU even
faster.
So I will pass new tablets and let the mega "mature" with tweaks, kernels etc.
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Which seller is that from?
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It's from this seller but they changed the price to £446 3 hours ago
If you have an eBay account you have not opened for a long time you'll get 10% off. It was £419 this morning minus the discount = £377. Now I can only get it for £401.
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If the shape is like on the few speculation pictures, it is out of the question. I carry my mega in the front jeans
pocket, therefor the edges must be rounded. I have a Sony Xperia S and I dislike the sharp edges alot.
Also, the mega has fantastic battery time and belive it or not my cpu processing is fast and the GPU even
faster.
So I will pass new tablets and let the mega "mature" with tweaks, kernels etc.
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Here's a size comparison of the Xperia Z ultra with the other phablets and the Nexus 7. For an extra 0.14 mm screen you get extra 11.8mm height and extra 4.2mm width.
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Why most people prefer Samsung's phone design:
I had such high hopes for this device... Then I saw the specs
- An all bells 'n whistles camera but no flash. WTF??? Where did Sony get this idea from? The first iPhone?
- Gigantic bezel but on-screen buttons. Are you serious Sony?
- Designed like a brick and probably with the ergonomics of one. A phone or phablet is supposed to be held in your hand. Curved shapes are more ergonomic and comfortable to hold. People who prefer design over ergonomics and comfort should hang their phones on a wall or put them on a stand to be displayed, not used.
- Average (at best) battery capacity. Certainly lower than Samsung's.
- No stylus included. I don't care if you can write with any pen/pencil. Unless you carry one in your pocket/purse, this feature is useless and even if you do carry one, it is still much more practical and faster to pull the stylus out of the phone itself.
- Glass shell, from what I've read. Tempered glass or not, it breaks more easily than plastic and adds unnecessary weight. Again, a phone is supposed to be a tool, something practical, not a design object. If you can have a nice design without sacrificing functionality, fine, but I would never sacrifice functionality over design.
- Last, but not least, it is not pocketable unless you wear the trousers of an NBA player.
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- Gigantic bezel but on-screen buttons. Are you serious Sony?
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I know, it's a joke of a century. It seems this phone has an identity crisis. The whole point of a phablet is to have smal bezels, the top and bottom bezels on this thing are almost the same as on a tablet. Horrible design failure.
Looks awesome, but personally I'll be happy sticking with my 9205 because while I was able to buy my mega for £380 a week ago, the Sony won't be available for that sort of price for 6 months at LEAST! Having a snapdragon 800 and 1080p screen would definitely be nice, but I'm really happy with both the speed and screen on my Mega anyway. :good:
That is one beautiful and powerful device! I can't imagine having a phone that large though. The GN2 was big enough for me and going to an HTC One felt great since I could use it easier with one hand.
Such a shame.....but then again, maybe when I hold one, things might change.
I hate on screen buttons anyway so this is a definite non-starter.
The Sony Xperia Z Ultra will cost 729 euros (£618 / $954) when it's released on Q3 according to Sony France.
That's almost £200 over the Mega's price, I'd expect more for that difference. Good luck Sony.
Damn, Now after everything I gotta think about it. All I do is review the phones and then sell them. So maybe Ill buy it and hold it until the note 3 comes out. The only thing keeping my mind on it is the specs! :laugh:
Samsung 6.3 is much better overall. The only thing Z Ultra has and edge is powerful snapdragon 800, but with a modest 3000mah its a joke. Probably it can last 4-5 hrs, this phone need a minimum 3500mah battery or better.
Im also keeping an eye on the new galaxy s4 being released in south korea. Probably works with tmous newly 1700mhz refarmed.
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Mass production of the Note 3 will start in August for a debut in September. It is not like I can't live with my current phone until the Note 3 comes out. It will blow this Sony Note-killer wannabe out of the water.
Anything without SD card and removable battery is out for me. I would like a waterproof Mega but this is not it.
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Anything without SD card and removable battery is out for me. I would like a waterproof Mega but this is not it.
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It does have an SD slot! Also, you're unlikely to ever see a waterproof phone with removable battery unfortunately. Even the S4 Active uses a sealed back.
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It does have an SD slot! Also, you're unlikely to ever see a waterproof phone with removable battery unfortunately. Even the S4 Active uses a sealed back.
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Er... I think the active does have a user replaceable battery ...
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Here comes some of my initial impressions and pictures including photo and video samples from the Sony Xperia Ultra.
Build quality and impression
The device feels extremely solid and luxurious - in fact even better than the Xperia Z. The aluminum sides makes a noticeable difference and the lids feels more sturdy and reliable. Sony improved the design, which is good since there has been reports about leaks on the Z (like wet SIM card despite closed lids). Another interesting thing is that the weight is perfectly balanced, which makes the device easy to hold without showing any tendency to tip in any direction. The 212 grams feels light because of the large size so there's never any impression of heaviness either.
I am completely satisfied with the build and design of it. The Sony omnibalance design is just great.
Screen quality
The screen is absolutely magnificent. It offers a very realistic color reproduction with a warm and natural color balance. It is an improvement over the Z even if I am perfectly happy with that screen (I just don't get the complaints about it even if I made comparisons with the HTC One and Galaxy S 4). Nevertheless, the Ultra is an improvement with a more natural, warm color balance and great whites (white backgrounds are really white without getting any blueish hue). The size of the screen also makes it great for reading books, magazines and documents. Portrait mode is useable with this screen estate, unlike smaller devices where landscape is must in order to get an adequate text size.
Camera quality
The new 471 firmware is an improvement when it comes to picture quality. I notice sharper, more detailed pictures compared to the older 461 version. Before I bought the Ultra, I was skeptical about the camera but it has been satisfactory to me. The Xperia Z takes better pictures with the latest ROMs, especially with the leaked Honami camera apk but the Ultra still hold its own well (from now on, the Z will be my main camera and the Ultra takes care of the rest). The Superior Auto mode seems to work good on the new device and can take some pretty nice pictures even if I think that manual is even better when the settings are adjusted for a better result.
The only thing I noticed is that it can be tricky to compensate for the sunlight, the pictures has a tendency of becoming to dark at times when attempting to get the blue rather than white sky in place. My impression is that the Z handles that part better, it is easier to compose pictures with a clear sky without ending up with everything else being very dark.
Having a huge screen is very nice when photographing and it makes it easier to get the composition in place.
Sound quality
I have tested the sound quality with Grado PS1000 direct connected to the Ultra and later with RS-2 through the SBH20. It sounds very good in both cases and can drive those headphones well. The sound is clear with good detailing and balanced frequencies. PowerAMP sounds great with different kind of music.
My general impression is that it sounds similar to the Xperia Z in most cases.
Battery life
Since I got the device three days ago, the battery isn't run in yet but my initial impression is pretty good. I managed to get 1 hour and 23 minutes out of it when it showed 20% two days ago. Exact measurements hasn't been taken yet since I want to put it through some charge cycles before making any judgments but I think it holds up well for now. I was afraid that it would suffer from short life but I think it copes well with high demands like downloads over WiFi, browsing etc.
The Stamina mode seems to work well too. It has been sitting with 67% for two hours and 18 minutes now and is absolutely cool. The heat problem that affects the Z (that I avoided on my device through UV) seems to be solved. The Z Ultra doesn't heat up that much even with prolonged use. I guess that the aluminum sides etc improves the situation and helps to dissipate some of the heat. I don't feel an acute need for undervolting yet even if I will do it when custom kernels become available.
Software
Personally, I prefer to use custom ROMs (especially PAC) so I don't go into detail when it comes to stock ROMs, especially not with the phone mode. I look forward to the day when I can put the Ultra into phablet mode with apps in tablet mode - that will be the day when I feel that it is ready for prime time. Now, the screen estate is wasted by the phone mode.
Beside that, the Sony apps (Album, Walkman, dialer etc) is great and nice additions.
The stock ROM seems to be very stable, which is promising but it isn't exciting compared to PAC, a ROM which I think is absolutely great with decent customization options that make the device much more efficient.
I am not very much into reviewing stock ROMs, it is necessary to get root and Xposed Framework with App Settings before I feel that I want to judge it.
Where I bought it
I bought my C6802 at AtGSM, Bowery Street, New York. It is the store that provided me with the Xperia Z back in March.
Unpacking pictures
The package.
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The back of the package.
Open box.
Charger, cable, headset. I expected the SBH52 here.
The device itself. I think the white version is better in the case of the omnibalance but the black one fits my black cases I usually have (wallet or flip) and was in stock so I got it rather than waited for the other one. I think it looks great in black too.
The Ultra seen from the rear.
Device comparisons and photo samples with the 461 ROM
Side by side view of the Xperia Z and Xperia Z Ultra.
They run my usual configuration based on Nova Launcher, Beautiful Widgets etc. The Z runs the PAC ROM, 0726 build.
A side shot that shows the viewing angles.
Xperia Z Ultra compared with Xperia Z, Xperia X1, P910i and HD2.
A comparison of the thickness between those devices. Even if the Ultra is thin, I think it is easy to hold it with a safe and steady grip.
Visiting Android Central. I think the Ultra works perfect with my hand size.
Here are some photo samples taken with the old 461 ROM.
Those pictures are taken at the Sony Wonder Technology Lab, NYC.
Two street views.
A small picture comparison between the Xperia Z (PAC) and Z Ultra (461) is here.
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This picture of the Commodore PET 2001 is taken with the Ultra.
This picture of the PET 2001 is taken with the Xperia Z with PAC 0726 ROM.
Photo samples taken with the 471
First is two sample videos in 1080p I took.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW9sjAYOabA&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfKXiPX7syE
Here are the pictures:
I think the S 4 ad is funny. "The ultra-advanced S 4" - I wonder where that leaves the Xperia Z Ultra? Mega-Awesome-Ultra-Advanced??
Stylus compatibility
I have played with the digitizer today and found a graphite pen that works great for jotting things down, drawing etc. I like this feature very much and the ability to use different pens are great. The only thing that should be implemented is palm rejection. It is necessary to avoid touching the screen while using a stylus since it can cause the drawing of some very strange lines.
The Sony Sketch works very well and I took some notes today, which worked great when I found the proper way.
I will post more information when everything develops (root etc).
Root status
The Ultra isn't rooted yet. I cooperated with DoomLord on getting root on my device but we failed. The only response was a blank screen when root kernels and packages was flashed. It is obvious that more work has to be made here.
I unlocked the bootloader in order to try the rooting; I would have done it regardless since I want custom kernels and ROMs like PAC on it later on. Keeping the bootloader locked is therefore no options for me. The screen is so great that I don't even miss Bravia Engine either. It looks great when I view pictures in QuickPic or videos with BsPlayer.
Size
To me, the size is perfect and I can carry it on my pants without any problems. It just fit their pockets and it was the first thing I checked when I bought it. I was a bit worried about taking such a big jump upwards when it comes to the size but it went very well.
Thanks for the impressions! Just waiting on more concrete battery life information for it to seal the deal.
Sorry to hear that root is not working yet. Hope you get some luck ^.^
Planning to buy one soon too.
Absolutely awesome post, and impressions. Thanks for that, I also agree with you on everything.
Also glad you got a black ZU too, what lead you to that decision? Is it because you had a white Z?
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Absolutely awesome post, and impressions. Thanks for that, I also agree with you on everything.
Also glad you got a black ZU too, what lead you to that decision? Is it because you had a white Z?
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The black Z Ultra was selected because the store (AtGSM) didn't have the white in stock and I realized that the flip case I ordered will be black so the color is more practical. Otherwise, I think the white color is better for this "omnibalance" (what Sony call this design) since it accentuates it more.
Now I must say that I like the black design more than I did before. It looks really high tech and sophisticated.
The fact that I have the white Z also played a role, especially since I am going to use it as my main camera further along the road.
When root (at least) is out for the Ultra, I am going to reflash the Z with Monxdified and make it my main camera (I have a lot of stuff on my memory card so using the Z for picture and video shooting solve a problem to me) and I think it looks great in white. So the need for a white Ultra isn't present.
great review
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The black Z Ultra was selected because the store (AtGSM) didn't have the white in stock and I realized that the flip case I ordered will be black so the color is more practical. Otherwise, I think the white color is better for this "omnibalance" (what Sony call this design) since it accentuates it more.
Now I must say that I like the black design more than I did before. It looks really high tech and sophisticated.
The fact that I have the white Z also played a role, especially since I am going to use it as my main camera further along the road.
When root (at least) is out for the Ultra, I am going to reflash the Z with Monxdified and make it my main camera (I have a lot of stuff on my memory card so using the Z for picture and video shooting solve a problem to me) and I think it looks great in white. So the need for a white Ultra isn't present.
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Thank you so much this is very informative. I would like to know whether you have any experience of using the NOTE with a stylus and how the stylus input compares to that?
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Thank you so much this is very informative. I would like to know whether you have any experience of using the NOTE with a stylus and how the stylus input compares to that?
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The cool thing is that you can lay a piece of paper on the screen and write/draw on it, and the screen will sense it and you'll get the same thing both on paper and on screen. So if it's a little weird to write, or whatever, directly on the screen (slippery), just add the paper on top of the screen and write with a pencil or whatever you choose so you'll get some friction.
Mine is supposed to be here. I also ordered the black but looking more and more at it the white might be a better option because you probably cannot see the fingerprints as much.
When the LTE version comes out in September I might sell this one and go for the white. It will also be good to play with it for a few months before he Galaxy Note 3 comes out to decide then between he LTE version or the Note.
Do you think they used the same crappy screen protector as the Z? I instantly started getting scratches on the Z and had to get a screen protector.
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Thank you so much this is very informative. I would like to know whether you have any experience of using the NOTE with a stylus and how the stylus input compares to that?
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I had the Note N7000 and a Note N7100 is here with me. I think the Z Ultra works great and I actually prefer the Sony concept with flexibility compared to the S-Pen. Writing works well for me but takes a little bit of training before the proper technique is applied.
The S-Pen on the Note is nice to use but it is too proprietary to my liking and too heavily tied to TouchWiz.
I know it's way to early, but where on a scale from 1-10 would you rank the ZU as a whole?
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If you dont mind me asking you, how much did it end up costing you?
I also live in nyc and was looking to buy this, was thinking about ordering for ebay or a site, but would rather buy in person, any more details would be great to hear!
thanks again
I bought mine from Negri Electronics for around $750.00.
I bought mine from AtGSM in their store in Bowery Street. They charge $769 and with sales tax, it ended at $837. They have it in stock and when I bought it, they were expecting more devices the day after.
I also bought the Xperia Z there and I can recommend the store. The staff is nice and knowledgeable, they have a great selection of devices and the shopping experience is a bit particular since the store is an office. It is on the 4th floor in the building and it is really an office. There's no device displays, just regular office furniture. You tell them what you want and they will go and get the device for you.
It is different and great in my opinion.
Then there are MobileCityOnline in Walker Street. Also a great store but they are slow with the Ultra, it is not in stock since they are waiting for the C6806. AtGSM is usually much quicker when it comes to carrying new devices. They are also a bit cheaper but MobileCityOnline is still recommended.
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I know it's way to early, but where on a scale from 1-10 would you rank the ZU as a whole?
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Yes, it is early but I would rank it 10/10. The reason is that it is excellent in all areas I want it to excel in. It is fantastic for watching movies, reading documents, browsing the Internet, playing games, using apps etc. It is a great mini-tablet simply put.
The only thing I don't like right now is that the UI is in phone mode and I look forward to being able to change it into tablet mode.
I will now put some more photo samples up.
Here is a picture taken with manual settings and white balance sunny (it was sunny but with clouds when I took it).
This picture is taken with the Superior Auto mode.
A close up shot. I can't find a macro mode when I check the camera settings.
Now follows three pictures taken with Superior Auto for reference.
Do you know if the new version that comes out in September with LTE will be supported on AT&T's network for LTE?
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Do you know if the new version that comes out in September with LTE will be supported on AT&T's network for LTE?
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The C6806 should have full support for AT&T LTE with the 700/1700/2100. The C6833 offers the 1700/2100 but not 700.
The LTE bands are as follows:
LTE 700 / 850 / 900/ 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - C6806
LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - C6833
T-Mobile customers can buy the C6833 while AT&T customers that wants the 700 MHz band need the C6806.
Europe will get the C6833 while North America (USA/Canada) and some other markets will get the C6806.
Would you mind posting some darker images, say in your house with lights lower or something so we get can idea of what it will do without a flash.
Thanks for all the input.
I took some test pictures in low light conditions now.
Some of them is taken with Superior Auto, others are in Manual mode.
With and without Superior Auto:
The lack of a flash is evident.
On the other hand, in order to take decent shots in darkness, a xenon flash is necessary. I would say that the best option for darkness is to get a Sony DSC-WX300 camera that can be connected to the Xperia Z Ultra through WiFi and Sony PlayMemories, something that means that pictures can be taken with the camera, controlled by the Xperia. I.e. you use the Xperia screen as the viewfinder and shutter control so it is like the camera is the integrated one.
Personally, I am considering that option but my plan is to use the Xperia Z reflashed with Monxdified as my camera.
Awesome pics thanks. I don't mind them not looking perfect when it's dark out. It is good enough for me if I will be able to see the people I am shooting.
Besides if I need light I would make sure it was somewhere well lit for a better pic.
Most of the time when the flash goes off it just blurs everything out anyways because I am taking close pictures with it on.
I am getting more and more excited to get mine tomorrow! Fedex has it on hold at my location so I can pick it up tomorrow
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New York looks really cool btw. Like there would always be something to do. People everywhere, not sure I could get used to that. I live in Michigan so there is never crazy traffic and people all over lol.
Hey guys,
I was an iPhone user for years and jumped ship to android in 2012; best mobile decision I ever made. I began with the S3, then moved to Note 2, then Note 3. So my android experience has strictly been with Samsung. I like their phones and actually don't mind TouchWiz, but I keep looking at the Z Ultra. I love the size (main reason I'm considering it) and think I would really enjoy the phone. In my eyes it would truly be a 2 in 1 device. If I get it, I will sell the Nexus 7 I installed in my truck as a head unit and rig up a mount to slide the Z Ultra in to. That way I won't have to tether everytime which seems to be spotty at best (a lot of the times everything's connected with full signal but the internet doesn't work), and I can simply have one device.
Enough rambling, I have a few questions for all you Z Ultra owners:
Have any of you swithced from a Note 2/Note 3 to a Z Ultra?
What do you think is better about the Z Ultra than Note 3 (other than size)?
If I should keep the Note 3, why do you think that?
I'm a T12/L1 paraplegic from a skydiving accident resulting in a Spinal Cord Injury, so I roll around in a wheelchair all day. The Z Ultra will store nicely in a little pocket on the front of my cushion, so I don't think I'll have to deal with the typical "pocket" issues. Only thing I'll miss is the removable battery, but I could get over it. I always have two spare Note 3 batteries charged so I can swap out a dead one on the fly.
Thanks everyone!
I got my z ultra two days ago, best decision ive ever made
Its more fluid and smoother then my 2013 nexus 7 and I get asked about it all the time
I also get up to 15mbps on 3G but with my s3 I got 4 so I dont know if it made it faster
You can get one where I did at www.tiptopelectronics.Co.UK or. Com
£309 free delivery and 1year warranty
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1. I am Sony user basically (just a one timer with Motorola) so no
2. Well:
The Screen estate is bigger (1080p with 320dpi, compared with 1080p with 480dpi in Note 3), Yeah the icon is smaller but you got a lot more room.
really slim and sexy compared to Note 3
no TouchWiz ugly UI (but that's just me )
NFC connectivity feature is a lot more pronounced and all the Sony NFC enabled accessories are the bomb too
waterproof of course (The cleanest of device i have ever used because when it's dirty, just wash it on the drain)
able to use any pencil as an input device (even if you don't have one, soaked wooden chopstick is perfect for XZU)
3. Note 3 is good because:
S-Pen (if you're an artist though)
Not really as ugly as the predecessor (more boxy i guess so more love i give)
Removable Battery (Not that XZU is bad in battery life but might be a niggling problem for some, but those Sony slim powerbank is the solution)
Camera (13MP + Flash + Samsung algorithm)
More dev support @ XDA
Well i'd say you'd better wait for the Xperia Z2 Ultra, because that Note 3 is quite sufficient for you imho and you won't gain too much with XZU (plus if you ever want to have a big screen, that N7 is probably enough for now). But if you really want to save some space right now, then XZU is the perfect answer bro..
If your goal is to replace your 7" tablet and your phone by a single device, then the Ultra is definitely your choice. I come from a Note+ Tablet combination, and haven't regretted one single day my new Z Ultra Only limitation imho is the camera in poor light conditions. For the rest, the phone rocks.
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Enough rambling, I have a few questions for all you Z Ultra owners:
Have any of you swithced from a Note 2/Note 3 to a Z Ultra?
What do you think is better about the Z Ultra than Note 3 (other than size)?
If I should keep the Note 3, why do you think that?
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#1 Yes came from a long line of Samsung phones, including Note 1, Note 2 and a test of Note 3 which made me skip it as I was still upset with Samsung about changing from the rumored 6" display to a whopping .18" increase :/
#2 Well, I was afraid of changing from Samsung where I knew pretty much everything..to a new system...but today, I can say....it is the BEST change I have done. As much as I enjoyed my Note 2, the Ultra is just another thing!
Smooth as butter...this stock ROM is just amazingly fast, clean and the fact that it is customized to actually use the bigger screen and fit more stuff in it, that is just sweet!
So what I like more than Note 2 is the way it is designed with the bigger size in mind and how smooth it is. Fast like crazy and just the screen size makes it an awesome experience.
Another thing I love is how easy it connects to a PS3 controller if that matters to you. Basically if yuo have bluetooth one, press the button on your PS3 controller and that is it...ready to rock.
It even tells you what charge level your controller has and lets you turn it off from the phone too. :good:
Another thing I love..the display quality..yes it does not have the deep blacks of the Notes but the colors look much more accurate..I do photo editing so finally I dont feel like having to tweak the "Punky Brewster like" Note 2 and 3 colors
#3 well if drawing on the phone is important to you, the Note 3 clearly has the advantage there. Yes the Ultra works with pretty much anything to draw but the precision of the Note 3 is clearly on a different level.
The Camera on the Note 3 is also better (not that phone cameras really matter to me) but one trick on the Ultra is to manually set your ISO then the quality looks a LOT better.
Overall, I would go with the Ultra...I just love mine! :good:
Another Samsung ex-user here. I came from note1, got fed up with touchwizz and poor batteries. I know they've improved on that, but even so, despite a few niggles with Sony roms, I much prefer the interface, much more stock android. No bells and whistles that you find in touchwizz but you can find an alternative app for pretty much anything.
Media wise it really is awesome, the screen is wonderbra. Obviously I'm biased, but get one and update to 290 for best results.
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I have own both the note 3, xperia z ultra and the Google play edition z ullra. My only complaint is the camera is absolutely garbage and no led flash to boot, so low lit area camera shots are especially horrible. Other than that the z ultra is a better phone in EVERY way.
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Also switched from Note 3. Note 3 has way more features packed in. But, well, I find myself not using any of them.
What I do miss are flashlight and TV remote.
Z Ultra is a beast - no, even BEAST. It`s fast and smooth, has great battery life (with stamina mod It uses 1% over night for me)
Also you have to understand that this phone is people magnet - everyone starts looking on you and asking questions. Also you will have to take it out of the pocket each time you sit down. So you will get alot of attention even if it will just lay on the table
Another minus I have noticed - Z Ultra has somewhat low sound volume. Sound quality is great but I often find myself missing a call while phone is in my pocket (never happened with my s3 or Note 3 with same soundtrack)
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Also switched from Note 3. Note 3 has way more features packed in. But, well, I find myself not using any of them.
What I do miss are flashlight and TV remote.
Z Ultra is a beast - no, even BEAST. It`s fast and smooth, has great battery life (with stamina mod It uses 1% over night for me)
Also you have to understand that this phone is people magnet - everyone starts looking on you and asking questions. Also you will have to take it out of the pocket each time you sit down. So you will get alot of attention even if it will just lay on the table
Another minus I have noticed - Z Ultra has somewhat low sound volume. Sound quality is great but I often find myself missing a call while phone is in my pocket (never happened with my s3 or Note 3 with same soundtrack)
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Enable "xLOUD" if you haven't already.
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Enable "xLOUD" if you haven't already.
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It requires Root and I am not willing to unlock bootloader (290) - will wait for 4.4.
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It requires Root and I am not willing to unlock bootloader (290) - will wait for 4.4.
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No it doesn't. xLOUD is a stock feature. Just open the equalizer.
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Thank you - haven`t noticed these.
I have a N3 and a ZU (GPe). I use my ZU as a portable tablet. My Z tablet, I only use for flights and I find my Nexus 7 a little too big to carry around for every day use. For me, the ZU and Nexus 5 combo are great for various tasks throughout the day.
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I have own both the note 3, xperia z ultra and the Google play edition z ullra. My only complaint is the camera is absolutely garbage and no led flash to boot, so low lit area camera shots are especially horrible. Other than that the z ultra is a better phone in EVERY way.
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As I said, change it to manual ISO 50 or 100 and it looks a LOT cleaner.
If we are going to say garbage then I can say that from pretty much any camera phone compared to my real cameras so its all in the eye of the beholder
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As I said, change it to manual ISO 50 or 100 and it looks a LOT cleaner.
If we are going to say garbage then I can say that from pretty much any camera phone compared to my real cameras so its all in the eye of the beholder
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You can play with the settings all you'd like, but in low light situations picture results are less than to be desired (garbage may have been a little harsh ). I would have kept the Z Ultra Google Play Edition, but having kids and owning a restaurant, having a better camera than the Z Ultra was a must for me. Z Ultra is my all time favorite phone, but that camera made me mental. If taking pictures isn't a priority for you the the Z Ultra is pure win. If you count on good pics or an LED flash daily then you're S.O.L with the Ultra. Just saying.
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You can play with the settings all you'd like, but in low light situations picture results are less than to be desired (garbage may have been a little harsh ). I would have kept the Z Ultra Google Play Edition, but having kids and owning a restaurant, having a better camera than the Z Ultra was a must for me. Z Ultra is my all time favorite phone, but that camera made me mental. If taking pictures isn't a priority for you the the Z Ultra is pure win. If you count on good pics or an LED flash daily then you're S.O.L with the Ultra. Just saying.
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Problem is to me, if taking picture is a priority then you get a REAL camera..so for me picture taking priority and phone camera are not terms that go together.
Also, a tiny flash for low light photography is for me as crappy as a grainy low quality image. Both suck big time..that why we have real cameras with big sensors if photography is really that important.
Just my 2 cents
And like I said, test them..I did MANY times with many apps...manual ISO on .290 roms is a LOT cleaner. But yeah neither can touch a real camera as should be expected.
Regards
shaolin95 said:
Problem is to me, if taking picture is a priority then you get a REAL camera..so for me picture taking priority and phone camera are not terms that go together.
Also, a tiny flash for low light photography is for me as crappy as a grainy low quality image. Both suck big time..that why we have real cameras with big sensors if photography is really that important.
Just my 2 cents
And like I said, test them..I did MANY times with many apps...manual ISO on .290 roms is a LOT cleaner. But yeah neither can touch a real camera as should be expected.
Regards
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Maybe I'll get a galaxy zoom lol. Idk. The Note 3 and LG G2 take really nice pics. I don't need professional quality, but decent pics to share and what not. Now stop arguing with me lol j/k
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Maybe I'll get a galaxy zoom lol. Idk. The Note 3 and LG G2 take really nice pics. I don't need professional quality, but decent pics to share and what not. Now stop arguing with me lol j/k
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Okok I get carried away when it comes to photography
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shaolin95 said:
Okok I get carried away when it comes to photography
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Lmao
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shaolin95 said:
Okok I get carried away when it comes to photography
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Sony have updated their Z1 and Tablet Z. When are we expecting a Z2 Ultra?
Ukbondraider said:
Sony have updated their Z1 and Tablet Z. When are we expecting a Z2 Ultra?
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this is for Xperia Z Ultra Forum only LOL
Ukbondraider said:
Sony have updated their Z1 and Tablet Z. When are we expecting a Z2 Ultra?
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hopefully not anytime soon, its only been out like 6 months, they did release a smaller version of it, the T2 ultra
sony cant really get any bigger without having tablets that you can make and call with
and they might not make one at all if sales werent great
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The improvement might be too minimal i guess. It is like they already reached the maximum size for a phone. Bigger than that it's a tablet. The only improvement they can do might be related to the camera but that's it. Maybe lower power ips screen will be nice to have (I'm not sure if the z ultra screen is really ips, because at some angle, the loss of contrast is still there but still far better than Z1, plus sony never mention ips about z ultra screen, only starting from Z1C) and negligible performance gain with newer soc. Other than that, the Z Ultra is still very much adequate for my needs.
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I don't mine getting a flash and better camera upgrade if there is a Z Ultra 2 on the horizon.
Yeah there is not much that can be done with the Ultra to make it better really.
A better camera for those who care. I dont as I have a camera for that.
A flash would be nice as a flashlight.
And if they could somehow keep it the same way and give me a removable battery then that would be my dream
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The improvement might be too minimal i guess. It is like they already reached the maximum size for a phone. Bigger than that it's a tablet. The only improvement they can do might be related to the camera but that's it. Maybe lower power ips screen will be nice to have (I'm not sure if the z ultra screen is really ips, because at some angle, the loss of contrast is still there but still far better than Z1, plus sony never mention ips about z ultra screen, only starting from Z1C) and negligible performance gain with newer soc. Other than that, the Z Ultra is still very much adequate for my needs.
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They can't or won't make it any bigger. Just check out the Z2 and you'll see that they have made the bezel a little smaller, so they'll probably continue with that. They can also not make it any thinner without either removing the minijack or making a bump on the back, which will ruin their Omni Balance design, so that won't happen either. The Ultra does have an IPS panel, but the "loss of contrast" is actually light from the LEDs. I guess they can do something about that though.
So i guess the Ultra 2 will be just as thin, and probably just as big with a better display (like the one on the Z2), and probably a Snapdragon 801 or 805, and that's pretty much it, i guess?
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Huh?
A flash and brighter screen for starters.
Z Ultra is obscenely behind the times in these two categories when compared with less expensive and even older superphones.
CZ Eddie said:
Huh?
A flash and brighter screen for starters.
Z Ultra is obscenely behind the times in these two categories when compared with less expensive and even older superphones.
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I'd rather have the unsaturated colours on the Ultra.
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Huh?
A flash and brighter screen for starters.
Z Ultra is obscenely behind the times in these two categories when compared with less expensive and even older superphones.
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The Screen is very bright imo, How much bright do you want it to be? Or in other term, how much faster do you want the battery to go down the drain? If i bring it outdoor it's perfectly readable in sunlight, and plus the auto brightness works perfectly.
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Hope there's no such phone like Z2 Ultra,I only want Z Ultra be the Sony's only big phone apart from the T2 something..
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Same size chassis
Bigger screen/smaller bezels
Better speaker
Flash
Better camera
Removable battery
That would make this phone perfect, IMO.
The ZU is like an indie rock band with a good following. It may never be as big as Justin Bieber or Lady Gaga, but people will continue to buy it if it hovers at that phone/tablet border; it's a true phablet. I will buy another with updated hardware. Would they really lose that much by scaling the production back a bit?
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Same size chassis
Bigger screen/smaller bezels
Better speaker
Flash
Better camera
Removable battery
That would make this phone perfect, IMO.
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No, that would make a completely different phone.
I agree on the first two, the speaker is more than ok for me, I don't care for the flash and camera, and I most certainly won't risk the waterproofing for a removable battery (I'm already seeing S5 users crying for their poor phone that opened up while they were diving in the pool...).
Sony has gone with the tablet timetable for the ZU, AKA once a year, and that's fine by me.
I don't feel the need to change device, and they better come up with something really FANTASTIC next year for the ZU2, because they gave us something that's nearly UNimprovable.
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The Screen is very bright imo, How much bright do you want it to be? Or in other term, how much faster do you want the battery to go down the drain? If i bring it outdoor it's perfectly readable in sunlight, and plus the auto brightness works perfectly.
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Are you serious?! And it brings up another weak point. The battery.
Maybe *you're* happy with it and that's all that matters.
But the phone is about 1/2 as bright in the sunlight when compared to the Note 3.
And the battery is only about 75% as efficient when compared to the Note 3.
And I call BS on you saying your phone is "perfectly readable in the sunlight".
My S4 is brighter than your phone and I have trouble viewing it when the sun is shining down on it.
Look, the Z Ultra is a very good phone.
But it's still heavily outshined by current phones and thus, "doesn't really need any update" is an illogical argument.
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Are you serious?! And it brings up another weak point. The battery.
Maybe *you're* happy with it and that's all that matters.
But the phone is about 1/2 as bright in the sunlight when compared to the Note 3.
And the battery is only about 75% as efficient when compared to the Note 3.
And I call BS on you saying your phone is "perfectly readable in the sunlight".
My S4 is brighter than your phone and I have trouble viewing it when the sun is shining down on it.
Look, the Z Ultra is a very good phone.
But it's still heavily outshined by current phones and thus, "doesn't really need any update" is an illogical argument.
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Wait a second. We're talking about two different display technologies here. Half as bright compared to the Note 3? I don't think so. Try them both in a dark room, with full brightness.
Let's talk about battery.
Im arriving late at night with 4+ screen hours and 20% of battery left. What more could you want?
I guess they could fit a bigger battery (how about no, since it would thicken the phone and noone wants that) but let's see how KK is energy efficient before talking s*it about battery consumption.
Outshined? By the Note 3?? If you're talking about the camera, ok, If you're talking about anything else, well, no.
Look, the Note 3 is a really good phone. But it isn't an update at all.
Or it is, if you consider an update 4K videos and a few pen tricks.
P.s. I also have used a Note 3, an S4 (both with stock and GPe roms) and have owned an S3 in the past year, so I'm backing up what I'm talking about.
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Are you serious?! And it brings up another weak point. The battery.
Maybe *you're* happy with it and that's all that matters.
But the phone is about 1/2 as bright in the sunlight when compared to the Note 3.
And the battery is only about 75% as efficient when compared to the Note 3.
And I call BS on you saying your phone is "perfectly readable in the sunlight".
My S4 is brighter than your phone and I have trouble viewing it when the sun is shining down on it.
Look, the Z Ultra is a very good phone.
But it's still heavily outshined by current phones and thus, "doesn't really need any update" is an illogical argument.
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Note 3:
"The biggest improvement, however, is brightness. The Note 3 can achieve up to 400 nits of brightness in most conditions, on par with the best LCDs out there. Moreover, outdoors, the Note 3 can deliver a whopping 660 nits of brightness, 40 percent more than the Galaxy S4 and around 10 percent more than the iPhone 5s. The screen is less reflective, which helps outdoor visibility as well."
Z Ultra:
"The display is also sufficiently luminant, at 445 nits peak brightness measured, and with good antireflectance coating, plus the OptiContrast tech that bonds the cover glass to the LCD panel underneath delivers a more direct way for the backlight to go through. This further increases brightness, contrast and outdoor visibility in general, which is on par with the best mobile displays out there, like those on the HTC One or the iPhone 5."
You are really exaggerating. Also, the battery is actually very good. I don't know if you've checked the battery thread, but people are getting good times. My personal record is 8 hours of screen time. How is THAT bad? "And the battery is only about 75% as efficient when compared to the Note 3". Oh? You don't say. Is the Note's battery bigger than the Ultra's? Yes. Will it last longer than a smaller battery? Yes. How is this surprising to you?
I don't really need better battery life than this. I get two full days with my normal usage. It can last me three days at times. I had the Note 2 but certainly don't want a Note 3 after that. Strongly dislike Samsung software and bloat.
The only thing I would wish for is a better camera (sensor).
Last battery cycle stats (around 50% brightness):
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I also get 5+ hours of screen time on the regular basis. I'm definitely not complaining about battery life on this device.
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By no means am I implying that the Z Ultra (original) is an inferior device, but I am one of the ones on the fence hoping an update will come that adds some of the more requested things:
Flash on the camera
Update to the camera (but even then, I could bend on this one.. .e.g. same camera with a flash would be ok)
User replaceable battery (even if it's a fairly involved process, e.g. unscrewing the case or similar... provided it's a Sony sanctioned user replaceable part
hpka said:
By no means am I implying that the Z Ultra (original) is an inferior device, but I am one of the ones on the fence hoping an update will come that adds some of the more requested things:
Flash on the camera
Update to the camera (but even then, I could bend on this one.. .e.g. same camera with a flash would be ok)
User replaceable battery (even if it's a fairly involved process, e.g. unscrewing the case or similar... provided it's a Sony sanctioned user replaceable part
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1. Will probably happen
2. Will happen
3. Will not happen. Ever. It would've been a PR disaster for Sony when 1 million clowns brick their devices Don't ever forget how stupid people are.
Another decent rival for the Z Ultra
http://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-p8-max-hands-on-601694/
octa-core 64-bit Kirin 930 processor (in big.LITTLE formation)
3GB RAM
16 or 64GB storage
6.8-inch Full HD
6.8mm thick
13MP rear camera with optical image stabilisation
dual-color dual-LED flash
8MP front camera
^ Nice looking device, however, some things to consider:
- Far to big to fit in most pockets
- Lack of support/customer service should something go wrong
- Roms/Kernals and customization limited since compared with the big boys such as Samsung, LG, Sony & HTC...
Otherwise it's great looking and the specification is more than decent.
We are talking mere millimetres larger than the z ultra. Unnoticeable as far as I am concerned. I'm waiting with baited breath...
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I really like size of the P8Max but the LeTv Le Max has much much better specs and it's about the same size as the SZU.
http://www.androidauthority.com/letv-announces-superphones-usb-c-600978/
However, I will probably wait and see which one has better band support for Tmobile before I jump in and get one.
kanej2006 said:
^ Nice looking device, however, some things to consider:
- Far to big to fit in most pockets
- Lack of support/customer service should something go wrong
- Roms/Kernals and customization limited since compared with the big boys such as Samsung, LG, Sony & HTC...
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These are all the same arguments people use about the XZU.
I'm surprised you didn't add "Would look too silly to hold against your head."
rickgillyon said:
These are all the same arguments people use about the XZU.
I'm surprised you didn't add "Would look too silly to hold against your head."
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Haha, forgot to add that one! I've had several looks and laughter when I've been talking on my Z Ultra...
Imagine talking using the 6.8'' Huawei P8 Max!!
That said, I WISH the Z4 Ultra is between 6-6.2'' and sports slim bezels. That way it won't look too big...
Anything larger than the current 6.4'' Z Ultra won't fit most of my pockets and therefore are not practical or portable.
kanej2006 said:
Imagine talking using the 6.8'' Huawei P8 Max!!
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It adds like 1mm length to the XZU, the size difference with the smaller bezels is trivial, for a bigger screen. Sounds like a good trade-off to me. The main problem for phones like this is that the XZU is insanely cheap at the moment...
rickgillyon said:
It adds like 1mm length to the XZU, the size difference with the smaller bezels is trivial, for a bigger screen. Sounds like a good trade-off to me. The main problem for phones like this is that the XZU is insanely cheap at the moment...
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Yeah, here in Dubai, a brand new Z Ultra is 999 AED which is £182!!
Once the new P8 Max is released, I'll be interested to see a review. If the battery performance is great, screen is superb, camera quality is excellent then I may be interested. Should it come with stereo speakers then it's a bonus...
I don't see why Sony have stereo speakers with every high end device accept for the Z Ultra. Also flash is missing. Hopefully we'll get these in the Z4 Ultra if it is ever released.
here in the UK you can pick up a XZU for under £200 brand new.
I keep saying I will buy a spare one because if mine broke and I couldn't buy a replacement, and since there's no real alternative, I would cry.
it is Kirin 935 not 930 with 2.2 gh
the p8 is the one with Kirin 930