[Q] Android is 5 years old and still can't do group texting appropriately... - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Seriously, this really infuriates me.
I have to regularly send text messages to 30 people. Sometimes they are up to 3 messages long, that's 90 messages. This should not be a problem.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 with the latest CyanogenMod.
- First, Android seems to have a 100 messages per hour hard limit. Still, if my messages are max 3 texts long, this should not be a problem.
- The native Messaging app, nor Google's Hangouts have the option to text a contact group.
- When I enter all recipients manually in Hangouts, it keeps erroring. I'm fortunate to have noticed that DeskSMS can show me which messages got though. Usually around half of them. I them manually select the others and retry. (The built-in retry option retries to send to everyone and so it can take hours and multiple retries before everyone received the message at least once.)
- There are specific apps in the Play Store for Group Messaging. I tried several ones:
- [Group SMS & Scheduler](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.baole.app.groupsmsad2) - This app used to work on my HTC Desire, but fails for my S4. It just sends some random messages (last time I checked it broke the multipart sms up in parts) and sends some random parts to maybe 5 people. Absolutely worthless.
- [Groep SMS](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobappli.groupsms) - This app just does nothing when I tried it last time. It also feels quite weird so I didn't try it again.
- I also tried to use replacement texting apps like Go SMS or Handcent, but they don't work if you don't configure them as the default text messaging app. I'd like to stick to Hangouts if possible.
- Lastly, whatever option I tried, something I always get is 5-10 popups telling me that "App X" is sending a lot of messages and if I want to allow it to continue. I'm suspect that this messages may cause group texting apps to fail because they just try all messages sequentially and don't place them in a queue or something. Once one of them fails because I have to confirm it, all other after it may fail as well.
Google really sucks at providing a good user experience. They always come with "innovative and shiny" new features no-one needs, but fail to provide a good experience for the core functionality of their (Android) products.
Is there anyone that knows a solution for my situation? It would be much appreciated!

@stevenroose
Why to blame whole android dude?
I am using group SMS on my Samsung Galaxy y and it is working excellent. Never failed yet.
You can blame your device/manufacturer. Why to blame whole Android?
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stevenroose said:
- First, Android seems to have a 100 messages per hour hard limit. Still, if my messages are max 3 texts long, this should not be a problem.
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CyanogenMod has an option to increase the SMS limit, at least CM10.2 does, I believe they ported it to CM11 as well. You can look into Settings - Security - SMS message limit (near the bottom).
If it is not there, you can try this.
stevenroose said:
- The native Messaging app, nor Google's Hangouts have the option to text a contact group.
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The native CyanogenMod Messaging app does have the option. When you write a new message, press the + sign to the right of the contact input option, and from there you can add contact groups. See the attached image.
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Getting MMS from I phone instead of SMS

Whenever a certain friend sends a text to me I get it as a MMS msg instead of just a normal SMS. Is that because he is doing something wrong? I get normal txts from my wife from her I phone. What's the reason for this?
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mentallo said:
Whenever a certain friend sends a text to me I get it as a MMS msg instead of just a normal SMS. Is that because he is doing something wrong? I get normal txts from my wife from her I phone. What's the reason for this?
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thats weird are you using the default messaging app?
I use Go SMS mainly but the normal android app does the same.
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mentallo said:
I use Go SMS mainly but the normal android app does the same.
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That's weird I send regular texts and group chats with iphone users and never have that problem. Try clearing the cache for both apps or freeze the stock messaging app.
If I try a send a text and select 2 contacts this shows up:
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I would guess you are being sent a txt athat is being sent to other users. I am guessing its due to the phone being "compatible" that its showing as mms
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If I try a send a text and select 2 contacts this shows up:
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I would guess you are being sent a txt athat is being sent to other users. I am guessing its due to the phone being "compatible" that its showing as mms
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That's what I thought but if that was the case he would be receiving replies from other people. I personally use gosms for group texting so Idk how stock works
I know for awhile there iPhone to android and vice versa was having issues. Don't know if they ever fully figured it out. They being apple or google. I don't have any I-friends lol so I can't test for ya. But if your getting the message I wouldn't worry over much.
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Kidney Poker said:
I know for awhile there iPhone to android and vice versa was having issues. Don't know if they ever fully figured it out. They being apple or google. I don't have any I-friends lol so I can't test for ya. But if your getting the message I wouldn't worry over much.
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i personally was able to group mms with 2 iphone users on the stock messaging app but now i use the gosms app because it has emojis and you know how iphone users love their emojis....
this happens all the time to me. Whenever one of my friends initiates a text message to multiple persons from his iphone, it shows up on my end as a multimedia message. Whenever one of my iphone friends sends me just a one-on-one text message it shows up as a regular SMS.
I see this problem more often when I don't clear out messages from the recipient in a conversation. Last night I started seeing it happen real bad and I noticed there were about 200 messages in the conversation so I deleted the thread and the problem went away.
I do hate the problem though, I always receive "multimedia message, press <here> to download" and then you have to wait.

iMessage users & Note2 sms Works!?!?

So the other day my friends group message me with their iPhones and normally I never got group messages with an Android device and stayed within the chat. Well today I been group messaging on my iPhone friends and participating on the shenanigans with the stock sms app did I miss something. This is kind of crazy if you ask me I never thought Android would ever integrate with imessage? This was 1 thing I hated when switching to an android from iPhone. But it's freakin working!!!
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So the other day my friends group message me with their iPhones and normally I never got group messages with an Android device and stayed within the chat. Well today I been group messaging on my iPhone friends and participating on the shenanigans with the stock sms app did I miss something. This is kind of crazy if you ask me I never thought Android would ever integrate with imessage? This was 1 thing I hated when switching to an android from iPhone. But it's freakin working!!!
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sorry to burst your bubble, the messages app will automatically send a normal SMS when they can't send an iMessage and receive an sms from a normal phone.that is why sometimes their texts are blue in bubble, indicating an iMessage was sent, and green, indicating a normal sms.
you are just replying to all and your friends are just sending to everyone else. there is no integration.
The thing is it never kept us in the same chat thread before when I get the SMS deal verses I message but it still feels like we're all group chatting and keeping it in the same thread verses multiple text messages are separate
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megapimp said:
The thing is it never kept us in the same chat thread before when I get the SMS deal verses I message but it still feels like we're all group chatting and keeping it in the same thread verses multiple text messages are separate
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You are group chatting, but technically it is just sending the same SMS to everyone.
There is no way to communicate with Apple's iMessage app.
Figured either way it looks like its working no android ever kept group chats like this it always busted out into different SMS threads Lol it even does it in there phones as well.
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I was quite excited when I saw they finally have a group chat rather than a bunch of separate text messages. Great addition!
Use GroupMe app, Android and ios compatible across platforms, use from anything connected via network or even wi-fi (I connect via an ipod touch) direct messages, groups, ect... enjoy
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Hand Dialer for Wear

Hi, all)
Hand Dialer for Wear
Simple and intuitive dialer with supports phone book and call log.
Voice search for contacts in the phone book.
Ability to set the number of calls in the call log.
A window with information about the call during a call with opportunities to complete a call and include a speaker!
Free App with Donation
Link: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jxt.handdialer
Love it. I even uninstall the other ones I had
One thing , I never get that screen when I'm calling. It stay on the dialer.
It's indeed making the call but I'm not able to transfer it to the speaker nor close the call from the watch.
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Open the app on your phone and check "Autostart..."
Then a window will appear
Installed. But just dont show or anything.
How to make it work??
Just installed and working great (after selecting autostart and restarting the phone)... Some improvements can be done on the interface but so far working as expected! Great job buddy
Works like a charm, thx m8 !
This is my 2nd favorite app right behind Wear Messenger. Thank you Dev!
Tanks for the app! Gonna test it a few days and donate something if I keep using it besides all the other apps I'm testing atm
The app keeps crashing when someone calls me :/
Which version you use?
What model phone?
The error appears on watch or on phone?
Version 1.11
NEXUS 5
Phone and watch
wow I just saw this and installed. Looking forward to using it and sending a donation in a few days. I wonder if it would be possible to have a tab for starred contacts as well.
hello,
Thank you very much for this application. It's great.
When a call is made ​​with a bluetooth headset, it's perfect. No need to take the phone out of his pocket, by cons when it falls on a voice server, is it possible to manage the keyboard on the watch to select a choice by offering the voice server? Driving the keyboard option when a call is done manually from the phone
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hi all
Now I'm on vacation,'ll rework applications in October
Hello,
Ok.
@+
It works quite well in LG G watch paired to LG G3 but the call log only shows the telephone numbers and not the names of the contacts .
Thanx for your job :good:
Works fine with G watch and Xperia Z3.
Good work mate.
bittermormon said:
wow I just saw this and installed. Looking forward to using it and sending a donation in a few days. I wonder if it would be possible to have a tab for starred contacts as well.
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Hello!
I'm also needed a tab for starred contacts so I created my own app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.psksoft.watchphone
Regarding a voice menu and dial during a call - as far as I know it's not possible to send DTMF tones (at least on non-rooted phones) from third-party apps in current Android.
AIexandr said:
Hello!
I'm also needed a tab for starred contacts so I created my own app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.psksoft.watchphone
Regarding a voice menu and dial during a call - as far as I know it's not possible to send DTMF tones (at least on non-rooted phones) from third-party apps in current Android.
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Hi, very interested if you ever got your app to send dtmf tones from watch.....my phone is rooted..... i want to buy your app
Why was the app removed from the play store? I wanted to reinstall it after it gave me an error on my watch. After uninstalling from phone and watch(wear 1.5) I still get the call notification. Can't get rid of it and don't feel like resetting my watch.

Finally! Reply to notifications. Control phone's music player and more from Amazfit!

Complete article here: http://amazfitcentral.com/2017/08/31/better-notificationsmusicdialing-lumatic-softwares-droid-phoneassistant/
XDA Thread here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch/other-smartwatches/smart-watch-android-watch-to-look-1-d5-t3270656/page177
Did you tested it or its just spam to your website? What you posted, belongs to full android watches with call option, not to modified Amazfit OS.
please post a how-to or some actual images of this thing working on the Amazfit.
I'm using it on my Amazfit Pace right now. Standard US/English ROM.
I used APKInstaller on Windows to install the APK to my watch. I then followed the prompts in the phone application to connect the phone app, which I downloaded from the Play store, to connect the phone to the watch. It was pretty simple. Here are screenshots of it running on my Amazfit Pace.
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can confirm, this works, and surprisingly well. it does need some work on the UI/UX, but its a great solution for an alternative notification system.
I can also confirm. It's working. Needs some polishing, but ok
I've made a small video of it - https://youtu.be/PURGFLKOSgo - just a quick overview
1immortal said:
I've made a small video of it - https://youtu.be/PURGFLKOSgo - just a quick overview
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Thanks for taking the time to do that.
Where can we place feature request for Watch Droid? I have send them an email, but maybe devs are here on XDA?
I would appreciate if Tasker support would be implemented.
Triggering tasks from the watch would make the control of many many things possible.
Works perfect for me!
Furthermore, the app warns you if the connection with the phone is lost!!! For me, this is very important.
Thanks a lot!
Worked!
Now I can :
1. control music in my phone (deezer)
2. see contacts photos in incoming calls
3. see loner messages (sms, whastapp, inbox)
4. reply to messages (replies can be customized!)
super happy!
cannot reply to SMS message if your phone is from XIAOMI or using MIUI framework.
kokabunga said:
Worked!
Now I can :
1. control music in my phone (deezer)
2. see contacts photos in incoming calls
3. see loner messages (sms, whastapp, inbox)
4. reply to messages (replies can be customized!)
super happy!
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To me, incoming calls show the default amazfit message not app message with photo..
Linux said:
To me, incoming calls show the default amazfit message not app message with photo..
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Do you disable amazfit notitications (in phone app)?
After a few days using the app , this is my opinion:
-I don't have problems with disconnections at the moment, the app is going great.
-I am using it without the official amazfit application, since I uninstalled it from the phone and I realized that, surprisingly, I was still receiving notifications and calls, which is all I need from the watch.
-I've lost 2 days of battery (6 to 4), but I have my disconnect warning , and for me this is more important.
At the moment, I'm happy with the app.
Yes, whatsapp, sms email works..
ithosu said:
-I've lost 2 days of battery (6 to 4), but I have my disconnect warning , and for me this is more important.
At the moment, I'm happy with the app.
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Are you telling me that Pace now warns you when your bluetooth connection with a phone disconnects?
As in "don't forget your phone" feature?
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Yes, that's possible with Watch Droid.
which name should i give to uninstall this app from amazfit pace? adb uninstall 'name'
Code:
adb uninstall com.lumaticsoft.watchdroidassistant

Third party SMS app issues (Can't send)

Hi all!
I've just updated to the latest version (10.1.13.0) and now Chomp SMS can't send messages. It will receive them, but not send anything, it just says 'failed'.
Bizarrely (and annoyingly) the stock app is running fine. I even tried Handcent to see if it was just Chomp that was the issue, but that too wouldn't send SMS.
I have searched everywhere, but to no avail.
Can anyone help me? Or is this a bug with the Pie update?
hello
Hello,
Sorry for my English is not good, I'm French I wanted to tell you that I have exactly the same problem, since the update it is impossible for me to send sms from a third application than the one google play. Only the original application works.
can you help me too? Thank you
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Thank you
Fixed it!
I have a SD card in my phone. And for reasons beyond me, my SIM is put in Poco's in No 2 slot.
There's been no issue, but when I updated to Pie... None of the 3rd party SMS apps were picking up the No 2 slot.
I've used a 'dual sim management' app to select the 2nd SIM as the 'preferred' sim (as I cannot find ANY setting in Poco to do this) and it works!
What a fiasco to be honest...
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Fixed it!
I have a SD card in my phone. And for reasons beyond me, my SIM is put in Poco's in No 2 slot.
There's been no issue, but when I updated to Pie... None of the 3rd party SMS apps were picking up the No 2 slot.
I've used a 'dual sim management' app to select the 2nd SIM as the 'preferred' sim (as I cannot find ANY setting in Poco to do this) and it works!
What a fiasco to be honest...
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Super that it works, can you give me the link of the application that you used?
Thank you
Guys, I had a similar problem for last couple of weeks, but while using Messages app from Google - receiving was OK, sending 50% failed. Changed recently to Textra SMS and for the moment no complaints, all working fine - and, as @adeyb, I'm using SD card. Maybe try this app?
I'm using 'dual sim selector' (I bought the PRO version) from the playstore.
Following the instructions, keep it locked and autostart it, choose No 2 - and away you go!!
Annoying that I had to mess about doing this as there's no setting to alter within the phone's system, but meh, got it sorted now...
so that is why i had problems with sms apps?thanks
Currently in dialogue with chomp sms developer. And Just had confirmation fix applied in next release of Chomp in the new year.
Quick Response during Incoming Calls
I use Textra as my default messaging app. I cannot send my messages when I select quick response option during incoming calls. It will only work if you use the native messaging app. Problem is, I prefer Textra for numerous reasons. Any solutions?

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