[Q] Flashing a ROM for the first time, but need to keep data settings - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm trying to flash the Santod Stock ICS, debloated, deodexed ROM onto my phone.
I'm coming from Stock GB, and I have already got S-OFF and Root with the HTC Thunderbolt All-in-one-tool.
However, I am currently confused and stuck on what to do next. The catch is that I dont get my service through Verizon, but through Mobi PCS in Hawaii which basically just offers 3G and this required me to pay someone locally to hack the phone and input manually the data settings.
Now, I notice that in the instructions for flashing this ROM is to totally wipe the partitions. Is this really necessary? Only asking because I don't want to lose the data settings and possibly have the phone not be able to have service or have to pay for the settings to be put back on.
I have already created a backup through 4ext, so I think I should be fine with that part. Is there a way for me to back up the data portion of the phone, wipe the partitions, and restore it after I flash the ROM? Besides all that, which radio should I flash first before the ROM?
I would really appreciate some help if anyone has the time.
Thanks

Since you made a nand backup in 4ext you should be OK to do a full wipe (yes you have to full wipe, data,cache and system). If something is wrong then restore your backup and you should be OK. The problem I see you having is that you will have to flash the new radios in order to flash ICS. I'm pretty sure that will mess up any settings you have for the modem which means you would have to get your phone flashed to that service again.
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disconnecktie said:
Since you made a nand backup in 4ext you should be OK to do a full wipe (yes you have to full wipe, data,cache and system). If something is wrong then restore your backup and you should be OK. The problem I see you having is that you will have to flash the new radios in order to flash ICS. I'm pretty sure that will mess up any settings you have for the modem which means you would have to get your phone flashed to that service again.
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Got it. So the wipe is basically a full wipe? does my SD card need to be wiped too?

kfactor1469 said:
Got it. So the wipe is basically a full wipe? does my SD card need to be wiped too?
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Nah you don't have to wipe the SD. Also, since you have to do a full wipe you can use an app called titanium backup to back up user apps and data. Make sure you don't restore system apps from gingerbread into ICS.
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Custom Recovery/Custom Rom Noob question

Ok so as I'm still new to this and currently have a rooted Aria, with clockwork mod recovery and attn1's liberated rom, I'm kind of confused as to what would happen if I wanted to try a new custom rom. I know I would need to backup first with nandroid but is that just in case I need an emergency recovery or does that recover apps and data etc? I know then you would need to wipe, does that also wipe my clockwork mod recovery as in I would have to flash that again? After I install my new custom rom, how do I restore previous apps/settings? Thanks for your patience
Your ROM and where clockwork recovery are seperate so even if you had to wipe your phone clockwork will still be in place.
And from my limited understanding, flashing a ROM shouldn't affect your data, otherwise you would have lost everything when you flashed attn1's ROM
Shad0wguy said:
Your ROM and where clockwork recovery are seperate so even if you had to wipe your phone clockwork will still be in place.
And from my limited understanding, flashing a ROM shouldn't affect your data, otherwise you would have lost everything when you flashed attn1's ROM
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Well if you flash a new ROM, most of the time you have to wipe before you flash; you do lose your information this way, but its to make sure you install the ROM without difficulties.
Shad0wguy said:
Your ROM and where clockwork recovery are seperate so even if you had to wipe your phone clockwork will still be in place.
And from my limited understanding, flashing a ROM shouldn't affect your data, otherwise you would have lost everything when you flashed attn1's ROM
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I thought they were seperate, thanks.
hocplyr98 said:
Well if you flash a new ROM, most of the time you have to wipe before you flash; you do lose your information this way, but its to make sure you install the ROM without difficulties.
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So how can you backup/restore your info when you have to wipe? Whats the easiest method?
Either use titanium backup to separately backup info or use nandroid backup and advanced restore the data partition but note that the advanced restore doesn't work with every combination of roms
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Shad0wguy said:
Your ROM and where clockwork recovery are seperate so even if you had to wipe your phone clockwork will still be in place.
And from my limited understanding, flashing a ROM shouldn't affect your data, otherwise you would have lost everything when you flashed attn1's ROM
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I'm pretty sure attn1's ROM was an exception to that because it was the standard HTC Sense ROM without the AT&T bloatware. If you tried to install the Intruder 2.1 I'm almost positive you would have to wipe and lose everything before upgrading.
Sorry, I'm a noob here, and might not know what the heck I'm talking about.
After flashing a rom\keypad\kernel, and i see that it is working properly, do I need to leave it on the root of my sd card anymore or can I delete it? I am working with a 8gb card and it seems to be filling up fast.
moorreese said:
After flashing a rom\keypad\kernel, and i see that it is working properly, do I need to leave it on the root of my sd card anymore or can I delete it? I am working with a 8gb card and it seems to be filling up fast.
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You can delete them. It is 100% completely safe to delete all of them after flashing them. But if its something you really like (like a special kernel, favorite rom, etc.) you may want to keep a backup somewhere (e.g on your pc).

ClockworkMod Recovery Help

Hi, So im in a boot-loop, im gunna use clockworkmod recovery to make a backup reflash my phone with my current stock ROM then recover.
Will my contacts and message be on my phone when i recover???
Silly question but i have to be sure!!!
Cheers, james
jamesbebby said:
Hi, So im in a boot-loop, im gunna use clockworkmod recovery to make a backup reflash my phone with my current stock ROM then recover.
Will my contacts and message be on my phone when i recover???
Silly question but i have to be sure!!!
Cheers, james
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Have you established what it was that caused the boot loop? It might be worth taking a minute out and trying to work that out before progressing, if it was flashing a custom ROM, perhaps you should try that again, did you wipe etc beforehand?
So you plan is to
1. enter CWM recovery
2. take full Nadroid Backup
3. Perform Wipe
4. Re-flash current ROM (I'm guessing from ZIP file on SD not RUU?)
5 go back into CWM recovery
6. restore data partition?
Sounds good in theory and yes I believe that your messages will exist if you manage to restore data, I can't see what harm it will do - as you need to progress from where you are now.
Although, as I don't know what device you have and how you were intending ro re-flash your current ROM, you need to be careful that in re-flashing if you're using an RUU that you don't lock your bootloader or loose the custom recovery or you may have more work to do!!!
This is why im in a boot-loop
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1212063
Im running 'I9000XWJVB' stock.
1. Backup with ClockworkMod Recovery.
2. Flash stock ROM with odin.
3. After my phone boots up restore the backup i made.
Sound good?
Cheers, James
jamesbebby said:
This is why im in a boot-loop
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1212063
Im running 'I9000XWJVB' stock.
1. Backup with ClockworkMod Recovery.
2. Flash stock ROM with odin.
3. After my phone boots up restore the backup i made.
Sound good?
Cheers, James
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Ah, yes, I recall posting on that thread yesterday - shame you couldn't resolve it.
But this route does sound more hopeful. The steps do sound good. Although ensure that you only do a selective restore after the flash as you don't want to perform a full restore or you'll end up back where you are now. So I reckon that you'll only want to restore the data partition.
After restoring the data partition from the backup, I'd suggest that you wipe the cache & dalvik cache from within CWM, before you reboot.
If you use any third party messaging application you may want to install that before you restore.
ben_pyett said:
Ah, yes, I recall posting on that thread yesterday - shame you couldn't resolve it.
But this route does sound more hopeful. The steps do sound good. Although ensure that you only do a selective restore after the flash as you don't want to perform a full restore or you'll end up back where you are now. So I reckon that you'll only want to restore the data partition.
After restoring the data partition from the backup, I'd suggest that you wipe the cache & dalvik cache from within CWM, before you reboot.
If you use any third party messaging application you may want to install that before you restore.
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So far so good just restoring data part now..............Thank god for that it worked all my stuff is there!!! Im never playing around with that build.prop again ever!!!!! Anyway i have learn abit more on CWM so its not all a loss.
Cheers, James
jamesbebby said:
So far so good just restoring data part now..............Thank god for that it worked all my stuff is there!!! Im never playing around with that build.prop again ever!!!!! Anyway i have learn abit more on CWM so its not all a loss.
Cheers, James
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Glad to be able to help....I'll be honest I learnt there to....
Although something for the future:
1. Always take a fresh backup before making any un-tested change.
2. Always have you current ROM ZIP on SD card at all times.
3. You can probably export your messages to your SD card (just in case)
Now press THANKS. button.

Get my phone ready for new ROM

Hello guys.
What is the best way to wipe my phone, so its completely ready for new ROM?
Sorry if its alrdy out there. But hopefully you can help, im a bit new.
There area couple of things I would do and they are as follows
1. Do a backup of all your apps with Titanium or some other program like that
2. Do a full Nandroid back up of your current rom just incase you soft brick your phone.
3. Back up your EFS folder once that is gone its pretty hard to get it back. I have never had a problem but others have.
4. Make sure you wipe your cache/user data with CWM and also dalvik cache. This is to insure you dont have any issues with your old rom conflicting with the new one its sucks I have done this even if it says NO-WIPE rom.
5. Install your new rom whatever that may be
TLR
MAKE BACKUPS OF YOUR APPS
MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP
iCon878 said:
There area couple of things I would do and they are as follows
1. Do a backup of all your apps with Titanium or some other program like that
2. Do a full Nandroid back up of your current rom just incase you soft brick your phone.
3. Back up your EFS folder once that is gone its pretty hard to get it back. I have never had a problem but others have.
4. Make sure you wipe your cache/user data with CWM and also dalvik cache. This is to insure you dont have any issues with your old rom conflicting with the new one its sucks I have done this even if it says NO-WIPE rom.
5. Install your new rom whatever that may be
TLR
MAKE BACKUPS OF YOUR APPS
MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP
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In addition to the steps, you can also format the system and emmc, If you want a clean slate. Just remember to place New ROM and nandroid backup on ext SD card before formatting
I was a bit hasty when flashing, and did not get a original rom backup(nandroid). Am I completely ****ed now? My current rom works just fine, just wondering if my next flash softbricks it. Could I back up my current rom and return to that?
Also, if I flash a original sammy rom from the original rom thread(the one I presume my phone came with), will I be able to update through the built in sammy function(Search for updates)?
Sorry for hijacking, but this thread seemed suitable rather than starting a new.
Cheers!
edgenet said:
I was a bit hasty when flashing, and did not get a original rom backup(nandroid). Am I completely ****ed now? My current rom works just fine, just wondering if my next flash softbricks it. Could I back up my current rom and return to that?
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Sure, any backup of a working ROM is good. You can always pull an official firmware from Intratech's thread to flash back to stock if you need to in the future.
edgenet said:
Also, if I flash a original sammy rom from the original rom thread(the one I presume my phone came with), will I be able to update through the built in sammy function(Search for updates)?
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Maybe. I see a Norwegian flag in your profile. If you flash back to stock, it MAY work for you. Doesn't for me, but that's because I'm in the US, and no one officially carries this phone here.. so neither Kies nor OTA work for updates for me.
edgenet said:
I was a bit hasty when flashing, and did not get a original rom backup(nandroid). Am I completely ****ed now? My current rom works just fine, just wondering if my next flash softbricks it. Could I back up my current rom and return to that?
Also, if I flash a original sammy rom from the original rom thread(the one I presume my phone came with), will I be able to update through the built in sammy function(Search for updates)?
Sorry for hijacking, but this thread seemed suitable rather than starting a new.
Cheers!
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No, not suitable at all.
Hijacking bigtime and not using "search" either - good start, you'll not be popular if you carry on like this...
Since like me you're in Norway and can't sleep either I'll try to help - no links though, you gotta search:
If you're careful with flashing the softbrick chances are small. Yes, you can back up your current ROM.
No, you can't update via "search for updates" on the phone. It's an OTA feature that's never been implemented in Gingerbread - at least not here in Norge.
And you can't "presume" what your original firmware/ROM was - you either know it or you don't.
To be honest, you don't sound like you're ready for custom ROMs yet. I'd do a lot more reading here if I were you.
Lykke til.
If i format system and emmc ..will i have to root the phone again?
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pnjbibomb said:
If i format system and emmc ..will i have to root the phone again?
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???
Do you mean format /system? I'm thinking if you format /system, you'll have to re-flash the phone's firmware.
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That does a full wipe, whilst keeping root.
If you change Roms, you will lose your root.
But when you install a custom kernel, most auto root anyway.
Finally words of advice, ALWAYS be sure what your doing if flashing anything!
Don't rush into Anything until YOU KNOW what your doing.
Not sure about something, ask. (dont guess or assume)
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Thanks..
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question about a rom after i do a backup..

k so say im running clean rom 2.0 i do a backup and i flash say mean rom and i use it for about a week or so.. then i want to go back to my clean rom i backed up a week ago... is it ok to just restore that backup?? or should i flash it all over again.. i thiught backups were for in case something went wrong when i was flashing.. so i can go back to it?? is it ok to use a backup rom from a while ago???
Yeap restore back ups its fine unless you use another recovery style
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wipe first tho or you are asking for problems
evod3 said:
k so say im running clean rom 2.0 i do a backup and i flash say mean rom and i use it for about a week or so.. then i want to go back to my clean rom i backed up a week ago... is it ok to just restore that backup?? or should i flash it all over again.. i thiught backups were for in case something went wrong when i was flashing.. so i can go back to it?? is it ok to use a backup rom from a while ago???
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in theory if it's the same BASE rom you should be able to just wipe dalvik and cache and restore but as always, to make sure, I recommend doing a full wipe, i've always come across some sort of problem when not completely wiping...
What they said ^
Also, do a titanium backup first, then after restoring the nandroid, restore your user apps + data so all your installed applications are up to date, but leave system apps and data as is.
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[Q] Help with flashing to a new rom

Quick question for you all.
I currently am s-off and running fresh's rom.
I would like to move to the Stock w/ Goodies 3.28.
Can I just do a factory reset on my phone and then flash the stock w/ goodies ROM? or is there more to it. I have used fresh since I got my OG EVO and never tried anything else, so I don't know how to switch roms.
I'm assuming that to update the radios and prl i can just use the Full Firmware zip located here: http://themikmik.com/showthread.php...dio-Collection&p=220556&viewfull=1#post220556
Do I need to update the hboot, recovery or boot img files?
TIA
waterboy100 said:
Quick question for you all.
I currently am s-off and running fresh's rom.
I would like to move to the Stock w/ Goodies 3.28.
Can I just do a factory reset on my phone and then flash the stock w/ goodies ROM? or is there more to it. I have used fresh since I got my OG EVO and never tried anything else, so I don't know how to switch roms.
I'm assuming that to update the radios and prl i can just use the Full Firmware zip located here: http://themikmik.com/showthread.php...dio-Collection&p=220556&viewfull=1#post220556
Do I need to update the hboot, recovery or boot img files?
TIA
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You don't need to update hboot, recovery, and boot image. When you switch roms you should always wipe: cache, dalvic cache, factory reset, and system. Note that this does erase everything so back up your contacts, texts, and apps you wish to keep
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thicklizard said:
You don't need to update hboot, recovery, and boot image. When you switch roms you should always wipe: cache, dalvic cache, factory reset, and system. Note that this does erase everything so back up your contacts, texts, and apps you wish to keep
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Thanks for the quick response. I'm running titanium backup as we speak. I figured it was good to have a backup either way.

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