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Ok This may sound really stupid, and it may not come true. But you can always dream.
I want to learn how to develop apps on all the mobile platforms and want to make a startup. For example what Seesmic and others are doing.
Android is obvioulsy coded in Java.
But how should I start, and what things should I follow? Thanks a lot appreciate it to the MAX.
Learn Java.
Google AppInventor.
Read the SDK.
Experiment.
learn java
get the android application development for dummies book
Yeah google has a lot of great resources online with tutorials for the Android SDK specifically. Once you learn Java from an online class or a book or something, you can look through the SDK tutorials and generally understand how to do things. There are also a lot of basic app tutorials to show you through the ropes of displaying notifications, having different screens of an app, etc. so just look around on the internet.
"ALL THE MOBILE PLATFORMS"? Android, iOS, Windows Mobile, HP(I think HP has their own OS).
That's quite a dream. Do you have any programming experience?
I've been a programmer for 15 years and started doing Android development over a year ago. I've not even touched 1/1000 of what Android has to offer. In other words, there is a learning curve that is directly proportional to your skill level.
I'm a firm believer in college education, so if you can, get a degree in Computer Science, all the better. And there are actually some very good 2-year programs out there if 4 years is out of the question.
Rootstonian said:
"ALL THE MOBILE PLATFORMS"? Android, iOS, Windows Mobile, HP(I think HP has their own OS).
That's quite a dream. Do you have any programming experience?
I've been a programmer for 15 years and started doing Android development over a year ago. I've not even touched 1/1000 of what Android has to offer. In other words, there is a learning curve that is directly proportional to your skill level.
I'm a firm believer in college education, so if you can, get a degree in Computer Science, all the better. And there are actually some very good 2-year programs out there if 4 years is out of the question.
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I agree 100%. You can't just jump in and expect to know everything there is to know. I've been a C/C++ developer for close to 20 years. I just got into Android and Java in the last year or so, and I agree with Rootstonian; you need a good base in OOP to get anywhere in Java and you can only really get that from a college.
Thanks a lot everyone for your help. Now that some of you tolde me you have been developers for close to 20 years or so. Programming seems scary and hard. Now I have doubts if I want to start programming :S
Anyways thanks a lot for everything.
Z!GZA!G said:
Thanks a lot everyone for your help. Now that some of you tolde me you have been developers for close to 20 years or so. Programming seems scary and hard. Now I have doubts if I want to start programming :S
Anyways thanks a lot for everything.
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Well true it takes time,i myself have been programming c,c++,java for the past 8 years.i am now starting out with android,my advice would be select one os platform that you would like to work on and move slowly and steadily up the ladder
It's ONLY "scary and hard" at the beginning...honest. Think back to something you have learned and at the time thought "this is crazy, I'm never going to get this!!" Then a year later you look back and say to yourself "why did I think (insert whatever) was so hard?" ROFL
Like Gene said, about everything is Object Oriented these days. When he and I learned it was Assembler, Fortran, Pascal, "pure" C, <gasp> BASIC, <cringe> COBOL...there was no OOP (well not quite, I learned OOP in C++).
Don't give up before you get started With the help of some good JAVA books and the wealth of information on the Net, you have more resources than I ever had when I started learning.
And you can always come here for questions. Like someone else said, pick a platform and "go for it"...you have nothing to lose! If you think it's something you're going to like, then look for formal education.
I just want to reiterate that you should start small. If you have no programming experience at all then I suggest learning the basics first. I took an Intro to Programming class a while back and it was way different than I expected. But it prepared me to start learning programming languages. After you have the basics down, App Inventor would be a good place to start, IMO.
when i started to learn some basics, i started with the Google App inventor, then to
Processing + Arduino, and learning more and more each day.
A good Start is with Processing, Or Processing for Android.
They have super easy examples, and its easy to do just about anything. Give it a try.
Search the "thenewboston" at youtube. Watch his java tutorials. After the java tutorials watch his android tutorials. The way he teach it makes all professors boring. Lol but he's really good.
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Thanks a lot everyone for your replies.
I think I may check out Processing for Android as suggested by Technochris1.
But as a proper language, I will start with C#. So I can get started on Windows Phone apps.
Then Java or C++ after that.
Thanks.
I don't know C#, so my comment could be moot...
Windows phone apps? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the dominate forces in mobile apps would be Apple's iOS and Android.
I see nothing wrong with learning JAVA as a first language, but like someone posted, START SMALL and work you way up. You have to know about variables, program flow, looping structures, arrays, etc.
Even something as simple as the mod operator can confuse beginners but is just one of many tools you need to have under your belt. In other words, you can't build a house if you don't know how to use a hammer!
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I don't know C#, so my comment could be moot...
Windows phone apps? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the dominate forces in mobile apps would be Apple's iOS and Android.
I see nothing wrong with learning JAVA as a first language, but like someone posted, START SMALL and work you way up. You have to know about variables, program flow, looping structures, arrays, etc.
Even something as simple as the mod operator can confuse beginners but is just one of many tools you need to have under your belt. In other words, you can't build a house if you don't know how to use a hammer!
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YES Android and iOS are WAY ahead of Windows Phone, WebOS and the others. But as I stated in the OP, I stated that I would like to make apps for all of the platforms eventually.
I would love to get started with Java, but can't really find any good material to learn the Java language.
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
http://mobile.tutsplus.com/ This site has a few great tutorials for building mobile apps. But still need an easy and fast way to learn java.
i was really looking for a thread like this thanx a lot!!
and pretty nice sources out there to learn.
Z!GZA!G said:
Ok This may sound really stupid, and it may not come true. But you can always dream.
I want to learn how to develop apps on all the mobile platforms and want to make a startup. For example what Seesmic and others are doing.
Android is obvioulsy coded in Java.
But how should I start, and what things should I follow? Thanks a lot appreciate it to the MAX.
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if i am not wrong u released ur custom ROM for X10.
and u don't know how to develop apps.weird!
developing custom ROM is easy?Can u tell me from where u started?
No offense just saying/asking!
iynfynity said:
Search the "thenewboston" at youtube. Watch his java tutorials. After the java tutorials watch his android tutorials. The way he teach it makes all professors boring. Lol but he's really good.
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cornboyz on youtube also has some videos on developing apps
Z3US911 said:
if i am not wrong u released ur custom ROM for X10.
and u don't know how to develop apps.weird!
developing custom ROM is easy?Can u tell me from where u started?
No offense just saying/asking!
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the best place to start is at chef central for android, this thread in particular
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cornboyz on youtube also has some videos on developing apps
the best place to start is at chef central for android, this thread in particular
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YESS!! Thank you! i watched a cornboyz video months ago, but I forgot his username, thanks a lot for reminding me! Now lets slowly get down to business!
Thanks a lot.
Basically I'm looking to.start making some apps, mainly for fun but depends how I get on.
I've had a go with the app inventor which has given me an idea of how the apps work but it seems slightly limited. I have made some of the tutorial apps and had a look around here for advice but can't find a thread.
What is the best software to use?
where is the best place to learn the code for the software or possibly a forum/thread with some tutorials?
I see a lot of people using eclipse to I'm thinking about trying this but most advice seems to be on how to set the program up.
Can anyone point me in the right direction? Sorry if there is a thread but I couldn't find it!
I would use eclipse with android plugin, I would also start as an adw themer. You can search online to get the eclipse development software on their site. The plugin can be found on the site.
http://developer.android.com/sdk/eclipse-adt.html
If you have any question during setup, I may be able to help! Feel free to send me a message!
Hope this helps!
Also you will need the sdk.
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I find it easier to set up tadp (Tegra Android Development Platform) It includes Eclipse(Preconfigured with android adt plugin), SDK, NDK, cygwyn tegra profiler (for tegra devices) and lots of other tools. A sign up will be required though.
link: http://developer.nvidia.com
For Code syntax I would say basic C/C++/Java and go to http://developer.android.com
cool!
I also want to get into making apps but i guess you have to have a formal background in some sort of programming or the like?
If you are a former VB programmer or C#, then you can develop with C# and .Net
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2198
Well, if you are talking about developing for android, go to androids home website. developer.android.com. That's a start. You will need to have some basic programming skills. Learning programming and android at the same time will be difficult. I use eclipse. I was more use to netbeans and even though they had a plugin for netbeans, there was no reason for me to stay with netbeans. It was an easy transition from netbeans to eclipse though. Anyway, it'll take time before things start making sense. There will be moments where you want to put your fist through your screen and moments of excitement when you've made your first penny. Take your time and develop high quality apps cause you know why? High quality apps dont fail, they always get the downloads even if there's a thousand similar apps, your app will be part of the thousand apps that get downloaded, unlike the 100 thousand apps that are similar but are of low quality.
I use java, by the way...
I dont know much you know about programming but this is what im following right now it is a little bit complicated and he doesent explain very well the base java stuff but other than thats its a great tutorial series. started watching it about 10 days ago right now im on the 100th tutorial and i dont feel like giving up yet, give it a try and see how it works out.
http://www.youtube.com/course?list=EC2F07DBCDCC01493A
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I dont know much you know about programming but this is what im following right now it is a little bit complicated and he doesent explain very well the base java stuff but other than thats its a great tutorial series. started watching it about 10 days ago right now im on the 100th tutorial and i dont feel like giving up yet, give it a try and see how it works out.
http://www.youtube.com/course?list=EC2F07DBCDCC01493A
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Yes, its a great series. But he tries to explain Java little bit on the go, but it maybe difficult or confusing for people who haven't seen Java at all, or haven't done some simple basic programs on Java. But even though, he explains it shortly as he could.
So what should be done is, follow the Oracle Java Tutorials on the side as you go through those Android tutorials. Oracle has a great documentation on Java, and its a great deal breaker to make you understand Java. Anyways a great devotion of time should be arranged for all these.
Hello All,
I am a newbie and amature android learner. It all started copule of months back. I work in healthcare industry and I see lot of potential of mobile usage in coming years and hence started to give app development a try. I am not with backgroung of computer science or having programming knowledge ut I could find this thread very interesting to start with. kudos to XDA
Hey guys, sorry to hijack this thread, but I have a quick question.
I'm currently in university studying psychology, but have the opportunity to take an introduction computer programming course that would count towards the degree and fill a requirement.
Anyways, one of the languages covered is C++. I'm just curious if this would be a first step to learn to develop android apps.
Thanks for taking the time to read.. It's greatly appreciated
kilometers4 said:
Hey guys, sorry to hijack this thread, but I have a quick question.
I'm currently in university studying psychology, but have the opportunity to take an introduction computer programming course that would count towards the degree and fill a requirement.
Anyways, one of the languages covered is C++. I'm just curious if this would be a first step to learn to develop android apps.
Thanks for taking the time to read.. It's greatly appreciated
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once you learn a language, the others can be different for their syntax, but the logic behind is almost the same. So learn the basic of programming and you will be able to program android. C++ is similar to Java, if you want to code in Java (the best way to code for android imho)
kilometers4 said:
Hey guys, sorry to hijack this thread, but I have a quick question.
I'm currently in university studying psychology, but have the opportunity to take an introduction computer programming course that would count towards the degree and fill a requirement.
Anyways, one of the languages covered is C++. I'm just curious if this would be a first step to learn to develop android apps.
Thanks for taking the time to read.. It's greatly appreciated
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As C++ comes under the Object Oriented Programming (OOP) concept, its still good because Java also follows the OOP concept. As for developing android apps, Java is the main language used for coding by most developers. It is said that any language could be used though, but not much clue regarding it.
In your case as a first step, learning C++ is no harm because it hooks you up into the basic programming principles and teaches you how the flow works, if you are coming from a non-computer science background.
ciao99 said:
once you learn a language, the others can be different for their syntax, but the logic behind is almost the same. So learn the basic of programming and you will be able to program android. C++ is similar to Java, if you want to code in Java (the best way to code for android imho)
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Thank you so much for responding.
My only worry is that I have never even looked at a language, so I'm kind of intimidated by it. Would an introduction class give me the building blocks to learn more or would I need to take further courses do you think?
Thanks for taking the time
coolsandie said:
As C++ comes under the Object Oriented Programming (OOP) concept, its still good because Java also follows the OOP concept. As for developing android apps, Java is the main language used for coding by most developers. It is said that any language could be used though, but not much clue regarding it.
In your case as a first step, learning C++ is no harm because it hooks you up into the basic programming principles and teaches you how the flow works, if you are coming from a non-computer science background.
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Thanks so much.
coolsandie said:
As C++ comes under the Object Oriented Programming (OOP) concept, its still good because Java also follows the OOP concept. As for developing android apps, Java is the main language used for coding by most developers. It is said that any language could be used though, but not much clue regarding it.
In your case as a first step, learning C++ is no harm because it hooks you up into the basic programming principles and teaches you how the flow works, if you are coming from a non-computer science background.
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:good: you're right
kilometers4 said:
Thank you so much for responding.
My only worry is that I have never even looked at a language, so I'm kind of intimidated by it. Would an introduction class give me the building blocks to learn more or would I need to take further courses do you think?
Thanks for taking the time
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what is needed to learn programming is practicing a lot! the course can give you the right way to think as a programmer, but i think only practicing and experimenting will make you a real programmer.
ciao99 said:
:good: you're right
what is needed to learn programming is practicing a lot! the course can give you the right way to think as a programmer, but i think only practicing and experimenting will make you a real programmer.
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So it sounds as though it would be good to take this course than. Thanks to both of you for reassuring my decision. :beer:
If anyone who reads this wants a tutorial on Java, I found a thread that has a whole class with it broken down into pieces for you to learn.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28321602
Enjoy
AND for those who have already started with the Android tutorials, here's a tip. The Eclipse Android emulator seems to be a bit slow (it may be annoying for starters like me!) Check out this link that might help:
www.andreybutov.com/2011/10/14/how-to-set-up-a-faster-android-emulator/
Good Luck! :good:
kilometers4 said:
So it sounds as though it would be good to take this course than. Thanks to both of you for reassuring my decision. :beer:
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I find its good to take a programming course even if you aren't going to program apps. Programming is basically problem solving. If you are a good problem solver you will probably be a good programmer and if your not a great problem solver taking a programming class will improve your problem solving skills.
Programming languages are like any other language you just have to learn the basics and the more advanced stuff will come easy. Its like Spanish, once you know what endings to put on the words you just need to learn the word for whatever it is you want to say. In programming once you understand how to put code together (which a basic programming class should teach you) its just learning what word to use to do what you want.
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I find its good to take a programming course even if you aren't going to program apps. Programming is basically problem solving.
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Well said, thanks.
There's also a big incentive when you do a course. When it can affect your GPA
ales47 said:
I dont know much you know about programming but this is what im following right now it is a little bit complicated and he doesent explain very well the base java stuff but other than thats its a great tutorial series. started watching it about 10 days ago right now im on the 100th tutorial and i dont feel like giving up yet, give it a try and see how it works out.
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Just wanna say thanks! Ive been reading (about halfway through) 'The Beginners Guide to Java Programming for Dummies' and just when I started to get a headache, I found this thread, and this Youtube tutorial is helping connect the dots to put it all together in my cluttered head.
Hi,
Im a university student studying accounting. I have always had a keen interest in learning a computer language and developing for android one day. I have no prior knowledge about computer languages.
I thought about starting with Java language. Is that possible to start with java?
Kindly tell me what book will be suitable for me to learn java language (for a person who has no knowledge about programming).
Thank you
(if this is not the right forum section to ask this quiestion in kindly let me know where should i post this question exactly then)
Its great that you are taking the step to learn a programming language!
Java is a good one to start with because its the most commonly used and there are lots of resources available online for it.
Personally I dont believe in just getting a book for learning to programme.
You shoudl just google some Java tutorials, open notepad and practice coding some basics. Once you are happy you can move on to more advanced things like downloading an Integrated Development Environment like Eclipse.
Theres tonnes of great learning resources for free online, so start there!
Good luck
Thanks!
The problem with online tutorials is that if im stuck somewhere, i dont know where to look for the solution for that. Also, can you please send me links for any beginners guides to programming. The ones you know are good because i cant judge which are good and which are bad
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I found python good for learning basic programming, search "Python thenewbosten" on youtube they are very good tutorials.
Ok great! Thanks
Also tell me that if i learn python, then when i start learning java will i have to start from scratch? Or all languages are interlinked?
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i have started the tutorials mentioned. They seem pretty good from a beginner's point of view. I wanna know if these 43 lectures are enough to learn python or is this only the introduction?
thanks
The book called Head First Java Second Edition is very easy to understand by beginners.
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Hmm a thread which I should keep in touch as I also plan on learning programming after my exams finish next month thanx OP
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Hello,
I would like to learn how to develop Android Apps. But it seems like there's not so many schools offering such course.I tried to search and found out about Viope Online Android course. I wonder if anyone of you has tried that out. I didn't see any review on that course. So, if you have any idea/comment, please share with me. Thanks!!
htran2012 said:
Hello,
I would like to learn how to develop Android Apps. But it seems like there's not so many schools offering such course.I tried to search and found out about Viope Online Android course. I wonder if anyone of you has tried that out. I didn't see any review on that course. So, if you have any idea/comment, please share with me. Thanks!!
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Have you ever done any programming before?
From what I understand...if you know java you can pretty much code android apps...
So take a class in java (I'm taking one next semester) and see where that leads you, from there take classes in other encodings that may also be requires...but for the most part its a lot of java
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I would reccommed you to read several books about android programming. There are plenty of books available, e.g. books on O'Reilly website. Take easy ones, such as "Introducing .." or "Beginning ..", not something like "Cookbook"
Some of the books include quick overview of java. Of course you must know the basics of programming
But if you insist on cources, I'd recommend Stanford Computer Science (easy to find in Itunes)
Advice from my experience: do as many practice as you can, don't stuck in reading and learning. This will motivate you to move forward!
htran2012 said:
Hello,
I would like to learn how to develop Android Apps. But it seems like there's not so many schools offering such course.I tried to search and found out about Viope Online Android course. I wonder if anyone of you has tried that out. I didn't see any review on that course. So, if you have any idea/comment, please share with me. Thanks!!
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Check out thenewboston's guides on youtube. I'd highly suggest watching their java videos first. The android series is 200 parts, and its really good. I'm on the 117th.
Check out these tutorials for android apps.
Vogella-Android App tutorial
Marakana Tech TV(tutorials)
Google Dev Training
I'm teaching myself how to write apps, and custom ROM's and I had absoloutely no programming experience beforehand. I've been self teaching myself for about 7-8 weeks now. I've got a fairly good understanding of .XML files now and find them easy to make and edit. I've got a basic understanding of Java, and can write and understand some code. (I still need a lot more practice with it though)
Just stay dedicated and you can learn if you really want to. I'm proof!
Thread might be a little old, but thought I'd post this for future searchers, since it will be a good response to the question. I've started a project to create a full training course on writing Android apps, geared toward complete beginners (whether they have prior programming experience or not). It's currently only in the planning stages, but I'll post updates on the thread I started HERE on xda-developers as the project progresses.
Im not new to programming, I got a 2 year associate college degree in computer programming and learned the programming languages C++, Visual Basic, and two others languages, but no java lessons and mobile device development. Will somebody please recommend a good tutorial site thats fully teaching everything you need to learn to be succesfull, and also is AIDE IDE with inapp lession subscriptions from the google playstore good to develop and learning anykind of android app or game develop you can possibly think of, or should I go download the Android Studio IDE from the google development website? Im still thinking on something thats worth developing to make some cash but im just an indavidual person with no team because I dont know anybody to get together with. I give thanks to people willing to answer me to help. I really in need to increase my tallent and succeed because thats my deep desire and it sucks to let my hard work in college to go the waste.