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Hey all!
Sorry if this has been asked before (I've seen posts about it but no straight answers on the issue).
I have a brand new T-Mobile Amaze and a brand new Wind Mobile Amaze. Long story about why!
I can't decide which to keep. I like the fact that Winds is unbranded. I would probably like to use the wifi calling feature on the T-Mobile one when I visit the US (I spend 5 months in the US and the rest of the year in Canada). I don't think I want to root this phone....am undecided right now. The thing that bothers me though, is the camera program on the Wind Mobile version. It's completely different and I like the T-Mobile one better. If I DID decide to root, could I get the T-mobile camera on the Wind one? And then, how would wifi calling work?
Sorry, I'm a newb who is not savvy about any of this stuff....
Any help would be appreciated
Also, I read something a while back, that the bands are different between the two versions. Is this true?
Thanks in advance! CHEERS!
I'm no pro and please correct me anyone if i'm wrong but yes. the bands are different, which is why there are different RUU's for the telus, tmos, wind etc amazes.
I'm pretty sure if you kept your wind mobile one and then followed the procedure to root the device, you'll be able to use the ROM's that we have on XDA and then in my opinion that would give you the camera from the T-mobile one (most likely unless it's been changed) - but yeah don't hold me 100% accountable for this.
You can flash a T-Mobile based ROM onto the WIND's Amaze. With this, you will get the camera interface from the T-Mobile Amaze. I'm not sure about WiFi calling since I never use it - actually I don't even know if WIND has WiFi calling on their network.
Keep the t mobile one, wind one is not yet compatible with the kernels supplied by custom ROMs for now. Means anything with faux kernel
I know it says compatible with all the htc amaze on the kernel page but it is not for the Wind
Thanks for the replies
Hmmmm, I may think about rooting after all....I am looking at both the T-Mobile and the Wind site....
T-Mobile Amaze:
850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100);UMTS: Band V (850)
Wind Amaze:
3G (UMTS/HSPA) AWS 1700/2100 2G (GSM/GPRS/EDGE) 850/1900/900/1800
They look like the same bands to me. (??) I really like the unbranded Wind one. I'm not sure if I would ever use wifi calling when I had the phone in the US. Could I potentially add the T-Mobile wifi calling to a rooted Wind Amaze do you think?
Thanks so much once again. Sorry for the dummy questions....!
Wind's Amaze bands are (from the box, and I have verified that I could connect to both T-mobile and AT&T bands while in the states):
HSPA 850/1700/1900/2100.
GSM 850/900/1800/1900.
Kernels from Faux do work on the Wind Amaze (at least, they did for me when I was running custom).
morrislee said:
Keep the t mobile one, wind one is not yet compatible with the kernels supplied by custom ROMs for now. Means anything with faux kernel
I know it says compatible with all the htc amaze on the kernel page but it is not for the Wind
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Ohhh I had no idea....
Well I guess that makes things easier for me
Thanks everyone once again!
morrislee said:
Keep the t mobile one, wind one is not yet compatible with the kernels supplied by custom ROMs for now. Means anything with faux kernel
I know it says compatible with all the htc amaze on the kernel page but it is not for the Wind
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I don't know what you're talking about, but Faux kernel works fine with my WIND Amaze.
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I don't know what you're talking about, but Faux kernel works fine with my WIND Amaze.
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Your videos work fine after? camera still work???? maybe you have a slightly different variant, but recent batch seems to be incompatible.
Hmmm, now I REALLY don't know what to do! I guess I will keep the T-Mobile one since I have already been tinkering with it...that keeps the Wind Mobile one brand new so I can resell it! I suppose I can be a girly girl and put some swarovski crytals over the darned T-Mobile branding!
Now, next step is to find out how to get the wifi hotspot working. Have been reading up on this. May be easier just to root it.
If I unlock it and use it on Wind, would the wifi hotspot work without rooting it?
Thanks again everyone
if i was you i would keep the wind one ... why? because the tmobile branding is a HUGE turnoff when you are looking at your screen (sorry americans!) They are generally the same device just with no branding, you could push an apk to your system folder or apps cant remember and it should work as long as you have a t-mobile sim card. In canada we do not have wifi calling so it wouldnt working here (duh!) Good luck with your pick! what i would suggest be the breaking point is check if either device has S-OFF if it does you could sell it to a developer (possible a little cheaper so they can start making roms and try to achieve s-off in all other devices.) Good luck with your pick, basically theyre both the same device.
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if i was you i would keep the wind one ... why? because the tmobile branding is a HUGE turnoff when you are looking at your screen (sorry americans!) They are generally the same device just with no branding, you could push an apk to your system folder or apps cant remember and it should work as long as you have a t-mobile sim card. In canada we do not have wifi calling so it wouldnt working here (duh!) Good luck with your pick! what i would suggest be the breaking point is check if either device has S-OFF if it does you could sell it to a developer (possible a little cheaper so they can start making roms and try to achieve s-off in all other devices.) Good luck with your pick, basically theyre both the same device.
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Heya!
Ok, so they are the same device exactly....hmmm. So, wifi calling isn't as a big deal as the camera software. I want to make sure I could for SURE have the T-Mobile Camera on the Wind phone. And if I root the Wind one, I am assuming the start up animation can be changed. The Wind one is lame. T-Mobile one is much better;-)
I am not sure what S-Off is....but can you tell me how to check for that?
Thanks a bunch!
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Heya!
Ok, so they are the same device exactly....hmmm. So, wifi calling isn't as a big deal as the camera software. I want to make sure I could for SURE have the T-Mobile Camera on the Wind phone. And if I root the Wind one, I am assuming the start up animation can be changed. The Wind one is lame. T-Mobile one is much better;-)
I am not sure what S-Off is....but can you tell me how to check for that?
Thanks a bunch!
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you have to boot into bootloader (by removing battery then - pressing volume down and holding it down and then press power button (you should keep pressing both power + volume until you get into bootloader.) if you install a custom rom like bulletproof or sense 3.5 you will get The new Camera APK and bulletproof has wifi calling included good luck!
I don't know why people keep saying that T-Mobile and Wind are different bands.
You do realize that the reason why Wind doesn't get different phones from T-Mobile is because they use the same bands, right?
If the phone doesn't work on T-Mobile's standard 3g+ network (AWS) it won't work on Wind, and vice-versa.
The only thing you need to worry about it is it being sim-unlocked.
The different RUUs only exist because of carrier customization and locking. Wind's Amaze RUU is pretty much stock without the extra bloat of T-Mobile Apps. But of course, the T-Mobile RUU also has the updated camera function, unlike Wind's.
Also, that's the first I've heard about Wind Amaze's having problems with faux's kernel. FYI my Wind Amaze's camera works fine on faux's latest kernel and NRG's Energy ROM (and xboarder's when I used his). However, mine was manufactured in November, so YMMV.
Actually youre a bit wrong on that, T-Mobile does support 2G network so any phone with 2G bands (such as iphone or galaxy note) will work on T-Mobile Network with 2G Internet Speeds. And the RUUs are made for the carrier specific device so if you want to revert stock always use ur own carriers RUU!
I know, that's why I mentioned the standard 3g+ AWS network. If it doesn't work on the 3g network on T-mobile, it won't work on Wind's Home network which uses the same 1700/2100 band (also why people tend to buy T-mobile phones and use them on Wind's network).
And yes, reverting to stock using the same RUU is a good idea. However, from my experience with Motorola's SBFs, they are interchangable among the same device. Because Wind didn't have a publicly leaked SBF, we've been using other carrier's SBFs without problems when reverting to "near" stock.
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I know, that's why I mentioned the standard 3g+ AWS network. If it doesn't work on the 3g network on T-mobile, it won't work on Wind's Home network which uses the same 1700/2100 band (also why people tend to buy T-mobile phones and use them on Wind's network).
And yes, reverting to stock using the same RUU is a good idea. However, from my experience with Motorola's SBFs, they are interchangable among the same device. Because Wind didn't have a publicly leaked SBF, we've been using other carrier's SBFs without problems when reverting to "near" stock.
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Ahh... another unsatisfied XT720 user. ;p
Accophox said:
Ahh... another unsatisfied XT720 user. ;p
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Hohoho, you've caught me. (So many random freezes/battery pulls)
Now I'm a mostly satisfied Amaze user. Just need to wait for those new ICS ROMs.
Also, quick reading for those who are still confused about radio bands / if it will work on your network.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...ne-Will-Work-With-WIND-(or-Any-Other-Carrier)
i still dont know why tmobile version is the only one that have all those camera features, the wind version of the Amaze have the old camera UI like the sensation does, but im sure there should be a flashable zip for the camera like tmobile amaze version is.
anyone that had the sensation 4g knows what im talking about
i dont know if the same flash zip file from the sensation works or not, im not a pro but i figure it wont cause its made to work with the sensation,
another thing guys, they have a blueray feature for the camera when recording, you guys think it can be port over to the amaze?
If you rooted your phone, I have the tmo camera apk for you.
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Can someone please enlighten me? Is the band compatibility issues on the HTC One GPE a hardware limitation or software limitation?
Reason I ask is that I would like to do a full GPE conversion on my HTC One that I got from T-mobile. If I do this would I still be able to connect to the same towers and have the same signal on HSPA+ specifically? Or would I have to (and be able to) flash a T-mobile radio? Or would I just be screwed?
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I'm not sure, but I have a tmo one running Android Revolution Google Edition ROM and flashed a tmo radio and get great reception mLTE and HSPA +
Tapatalkin'
I have the gpe 4.3 radio on my T-Mobile htc one and I'm getting better lte reception than the T-Mobile radio.
I'm running the arhd 4.2.2 Rom.
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Can someone please enlighten me? Is the band compatibility issues on the HTC One GPE a hardware limitation or software limitation?
Reason I ask is that I would like to do a full GPE conversion on my HTC One that I got from T-mobile. If I do this would I still be able to connect to the same towers and have the same signal on HSPA+ specifically? Or would I have to (and be able to) flash a T-mobile radio? Or would I just be screwed?
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The Roms you install shouldn't prevent you from connecting to the HSPA network. The HTC One GPE has a physical (radio) limitation that prevents it from connecting to the HSPA because its lacking one of the radios for the frequency TMobile uses for that standard.
If you have a TMobile phone and make it be a GPE via ROM flash, you shouldn't have issues.
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Thanks I wasn't quite sure what the limitation was. I couldn't fully convert to GPE like I wanted since I can't get s-off but I'm running ARHD 4.3 with the GPE radio and yep I'm getting even better signal. Thanks guys
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What about the Dev Edition working with flashed radio
This may be a n00b question, but I have an opportunity on a sweet deal for a Developer Edition One, and am considering T-Mo for the service. I understand it lacks the HPSA+ 1700 radio, but is that a physical limitation, or can you flash the necessary firmware on top? According to T-Mo, my area of Atlanta is serviced by LTE, so it wouldn't be an issue at home, but I don't know what would happen when I step out of the coverage zone.
Any tips or advice?
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This may be a n00b question, but I have an opportunity on a sweet deal for a Developer Edition One, and am considering T-Mo for the service. I understand it lacks the HPSA+ 1700 radio, but is that a physical limitation, or can you flash the necessary firmware on top? According to T-Mo, my area of Atlanta is serviced by LTE, so it wouldn't be an issue at home, but I don't know what would happen when I step out of the coverage zone.
Any tips or advice?
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It's a physical issue, it does not have a radio that supports T-Mo's frequencies, as much as I'd like one, I can't give up LTE
z0phi3l said:
It's a physical issue, it does not have a radio that supports T-Mo's frequencies, as much as I'd like one, I can't give up LTE
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This post has answered one question of mine being whether the hspa issue was a hardware issue or not. Hkwver I have a normal T-Mobile one that I converted to fully stock gpe with stock boot loader and recovery and ever since making the switch in certain areas I lose LTE briefly cinect to hspa and end up on 3g. Before the switch in these same areas I would never lose LTE connection or suffer speed loss. Since the switch though there are a lot of areas that I cannot connect to anything but 3g. So if this is a hardware limitation the GPE RUU shouldn't effect this manner or is there something in the RUU preventing access to this radio seeing as it was written with knowledge of the hardware it was being placed on not having the proper hardware? Is there anything I can do to restore functionality of hspa while keeping Google play edition on my HTC one ?
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This post has answered one question of mine being whether the hspa issue was a hardware issue or not. Hkwver I have a normal T-Mobile one that I converted to fully stock gpe with stock boot loader and recovery and ever since making the switch in certain areas I lose LTE briefly cinect to hspa and end up on 3g. Before the switch in these same areas I would never lose LTE connection or suffer speed loss. Since the switch though there are a lot of areas that I cannot connect to anything but 3g. So if this is a hardware limitation the GPE RUU shouldn't effect this manner or is there something in the RUU preventing access to this radio seeing as it was written with knowledge of the hardware it was being placed on not having the proper hardware? Is there anything I can do to restore functionality of hspa while keeping Google play edition on my HTC one ?
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I don't have an answer to your question, but I'm trying to figure one thing out - you were able to do a full GPE conversion (including RUU and changing the model ID) to a T-Mobile One and didn't brick it?
850csi said:
I don't have an answer to your question, but I'm trying to figure one thing out - you were able to do a full GPE conversion (including RUU and changing the model ID) to a T-Mobile One and didn't brick it?
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no it did not brick the device if fully functional receives ota updates and the questions I had in the OP I've answered. The device gets hspa+ 42 as well as LTE so the issue must be a hardware limitation of the gpe that u can actually purchase. In fact it is a at t model which is why it suffers the lack of HEPA connectivity. However if j flash a T-Mobile over to GPE RUU it will have HEPA+ connectivity. Also mid and Cid do not need to be changed in order to get ota updates. The OP has been edited since this was discovered all u need to do is flash the ruu and you'll have a fully official gpe HTC one with ota.
Hi all! First post here, I've read through pages and pages of forum posts looking for an answer but haven't found one so I thought I would ask a quick question.
I have an AT&T One that I recently unlocked, I then left AT&T for T-Mobile and am having issues with MMS sending/receiving and Mobile Hot spot. Everything else is functionality. T-Mobile says they can't help, HTC says they can't help.
As a result I was thinking I flashing it with a T-Mobile ROM.
Do you think it will help?
I wanted to confirm before I start digging more into how to flash it.
Thanks in advance,
Paulgyro
paulgyro said:
Hi all! First post here, I've read through pages and pages of forum posts looking for an answer but haven't found one so I thought I would ask a quick question.
I have an AT&T One that I recently unlocked, I then left AT&T for T-Mobile and am having issues with MMS sending/receiving and Mobile Hot spot. Everything else is functionality. T-Mobile says they can't help, HTC says they can't help.
As a result I was thinking I flashing it with a T-Mobile ROM.
Do you think it will help?
I wanted to confirm before I start digging more into how to flash it.
Thanks in advance,
Paulgyro
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you can convert your phone to a t-mobile one software wise but you'll always be missing the t-mobile bands that the at&t version does not support.
the step to complete conversion are
s-off
change MID and CID to t-mobiles
flash t-mobile RUU
then you'll have a t-mobile phone with no AWS and a couple missing radio bands possibly no LTE or 3G
clsA said:
you can convert your phone to a t-mobile one software wise but you'll always be missing the t-mobile bands that the at&t version does not support.
the step to complete conversion are
s-off
change MID and CID to t-mobiles
flash t-mobile RUU
then you'll have a t-mobile phone with no AWS and a couple missing radio bands possibly no LTE or 3G
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Thanks so much for the reply. And by the way your site looks awesome!
Currently I've unlocked my boot loader and am now moving on to the next task to get S-OFF
I did this for fun in my friend Sim card to test out. I flashed tmobile selection in ROM setting twrp (att rom)viper rom on AT&T HTC One and LTE works depending on location. Getting 40 Mbps.
Gonna try 30 dollar Walmart deal on att ROM for tmobile
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clsA said:
you can convert your phone to a t-mobile one software wise but you'll always be missing the t-mobile bands that the at&t version does not support.
the step to complete conversion are
s-off
change MID and CID to t-mobiles
flash t-mobile RUU
then you'll have a t-mobile phone with no AWS and a couple missing radio bands possibly no LTE or 3G
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I'm having a heck of a time getting s-off, rumrunner is telling me to flash an unsecured kernel as my next step as it failed.
I'm sure getting a crash course in Android here. I've read the forums but thought I'd ask for a recommended kernel here or other steps.
Thanks,
Paul
paulgyro said:
I'm having a heck of a time getting s-off, rumrunner is telling me to flash an unsecured kernel as my next step as it failed.
I'm sure getting a crash course in Android here. I've read the forums but thought I'd ask for a recommended kernel here or other steps.
Thanks,
Paul
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Not sure why you are trying, as the previous poster mentioned. You will have some service. But AWS bands as well as LTE are your data and they will not work. So all you will be able to do is send and receive text and make calls.
paulgyro said:
I'm having a heck of a time getting s-off, rumrunner is telling me to flash an unsecured kernel as my next step as it failed.
I'm sure getting a crash course in Android here. I've read the forums but thought I'd ask for a recommended kernel here or other steps.
Thanks,
Paul
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Give firewater a try instead. If you are on the new HBOOT I couldn't get rumrunner to kick through although it should work. Firewater doesn't rely on a bunch of reboots.
It works even with rooted At&t stock rom
paulgyro said:
Hi all! First post here, I've read through pages and pages of forum posts looking for an answer but haven't found one so I thought I would ask a quick question.
I have an AT&T One that I recently unlocked, I then left AT&T for T-Mobile and am having issues with MMS sending/receiving and Mobile Hot spot. Everything else is functionality. T-Mobile says they can't help, HTC says they can't help.
As a result I was thinking I flashing it with a T-Mobile ROM.
Do you think it will help?
I wanted to confirm before I start digging more into how to flash it.
Thanks in advance,
Paulgyro
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I just got an used/new HTC One from ebay. The cellphone came with stock At&t, locked, unrooted. I first unlocked the boatloader via HTCDev, then installed TWRP. Used the cellphone with T-Mobile and no issues, except the mms. Then decided to install ViperOne 6.1.0. and it fixed everything, I was able to send/receive mms, plus all additonal extras, hotspot, fully customize, etc. Unfortunately, I loved the way that Blinkfeed transition/scrol;ing had on the At&t rom and the fact that could have Flickr as widget within blinkfeed as well. So S-off the cellphone usign firewater (no pain) and installed RUU. Once, I had this Rom, I was able to get hotspot by modifying the default.xml, and killed/unistalled at&t blotware. I might just go back to ViperOne, it is a great Rom, I am just a photography phanatic and love having Flickr on Blinkfeed.
Besides the obvious model number, what are the differences in hardware and firmware between the two.
They seem identical my cousin has the galaxy note 2 at&t and I have the i605 Verizon gn2 maybe the network receivers are different
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Besides the obvious model number, what are the differences in hardware and firmware between the two.
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A lot...Verizon (and Sprint) uses CDMA frequencies and radios and AT&T (and T-Mobile) uses GSM frequencies and radios
KennyG123 said:
A lot...Verizon (and Sprint) uses CDMA frequencies and radios and AT&T (and T-Mobile) uses GSM frequencies and radios
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I understand the obvious here but I currently have the verizon 605 and I'm on at&t so it would seem that it can be on any carrier considering the n2 uses a lot of freqs. I'm talking about actual hardware differences. I might need to do some research on my own with this one. But if anyone else can help with this would be appreciated.
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I understand the obvious here but I currently have the verizon 605 and I'm on at&t so it would seem that it can be on any carrier considering the n2 uses a lot of freqs. I'm talking about actual hardware differences. I might need to do some research on my own with this one. But if anyone else can help with this would be appreciated.
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Verizon model doesn't have what it needs to be on AT&T LTE. I believe the way the memory is partitioned is different as well.
Just out of curiosity, why are you wanting to know?
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Verizon model doesn't have what it needs to be on AT&T LTE. I believe the way the memory is partitioned is different as well.
Just out of curiosity, why are you wanting to know?
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I am a hardware guy. I'm also considering finding out how they tick and make my own custom rom to maybe figure this out and streamline a rom that will be custom only to the note 2 regardless of carrier. i mean its out there that the note 2 will work on any carrier regardless of model because I'm on my 605 running an att rom on att carrier.
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I understand the obvious here but I currently have the verizon 605 and I'm on at&t so it would seem that it can be on any carrier considering the n2 uses a lot of freqs. I'm talking about actual hardware differences. I might need to do some research on my own with this one. But if anyone else can help with this would be appreciated.
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The main differences are the included radios
Verizon: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3926
AT&T: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3918
Of course firmware will be very different because of interfacing with the radios
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The main differences are the included radios
Verizon: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3926
AT&T: http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=3918
Of course firmware will be very different because of interfacing with the radios
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^ Thanks for this.
Thinking out loud here, not sure why Samsung wouldn't be able to have one radio that can handle all those different LTE bands. Perhaps this is intentional based on requests from US carriers?
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^ Thanks for this.
Thinking out loud here, not sure why Samsung wouldn't be able to have one radio that can handle all those different LTE bands. Perhaps this is intentional based on requests from US carriers?
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Yes...that sounds like something they would request to try and keep you tied to their carrier or make you buy one of their phones when moving to them.
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^ Thanks for this.
Thinking out loud here, not sure why Samsung wouldn't be able to have one radio that can handle all those different LTE bands. Perhaps this is intentional based on requests from US carriers?
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Yes...that sounds like something they would request to try and keep you tied to their carrier or make you buy one of their phones when moving to them.
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Hmm I am confused here.. doesn't the Verizon note 2 have both GSM and CDMA capabilities, that why is considered a World phone..
I'm pretty certain the main differences is firmare and not hardware. I'll have to check those links Kenny..
I know of people running t mobile on a Verizon note 2 that have everything working perfectly fine and t mobile is GSM. Pop the Sim in, switch mobile networks to GSM, maybe edit apns for lte..but I don't even thunk that is needed once the GSM Sim is in place. This unlocks the add apn feature under access points
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Hmm I am confused here.. doesn't the Verizon note 2 have both GSM and CDMA capabilities, that why is considered a World phone..
I'm pretty certain the main differences is firmare and not hardware. I'll have to check those links Kenny..
I know of people running t mobile on a Verizon note 2 that have everything working perfectly fine and t mobile is GSM. Pop the Sim in, switch mobile networks to GSM, maybe edit apns for lte..but I don't even thunk that is needed once the GSM Sim is in place. This unlocks the add apn feature under access points
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Yes, look at the specs...it has GSM radio too with some frequencies. And no, you cannot flash AT&T firmware on a Verizon phone and have a perfectly working AT&T phone.
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Yes, look at the specs...it has GSM radio too with some frequencies. And no, you cannot flash AT&T firmware on a Verizon phone and have a perfectly working AT&T phone.
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No I know that.. I am not saying flashing att firmware would work out of the box, so they say.. I am aware of what it takes to port different firmwares
I'm saying using a att or t mobile Sim is possible.. maybe I wondered off the op's topic here..sorry about that
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I am a hardware guy. I'm also considering finding out how they tick and make my
own custom rom to maybe figure this out and streamline a rom that will be custom only to the note 2 regardless of carrier. i mean its out there that the note 2 will work on any carrier regardless of model because I'm on my 605 running an att rom on att carrier.
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This is possible.. but not without a pretty intense aroma installer..you'll need to separate different csc features, apps, frameworks, permissions, libs, build.props and vender folders. .but yea. Would be a pretty big task and knowledge of all the carriers
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I know of people running t mobile on a Verizon note 2 that have everything working perfectly fine and t mobile is GSM. Pop the Sim in, switch mobile networks to GSM, maybe edit apns for lte..but I don't even thunk that is needed once the GSM Sim is in place. This unlocks the add apn feature under access points
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Thank you for this tidbit of info. I'm currently trying to figure a way to get my old VZW Note 2 working on Straight Talk for my Dad, who's currently using a 3" Samsung something-or-other P.O.S. I'm going to get the AT&T version of the Straight Talk SIM and try it out since some have reported success with it. If not that one, then maybe the T-Mobile one.
I'll post back with my results (5-10 business days for delivery--yikes!)
P.S. Anyone else out there have a recommendation for a ROM to use for this? I'm going to go with something 4.1.x because I've read that later versions won't work. Jedi X maybe?
I'm about to get an LG G2, probably sprint or verizon edition.
Is it possible to unlock the Sprint/Verizon LG G2 to use it on T-Mobile or worldwide carriers? With 4G and LTE?
Are there good ROMs for this device? Does it come with an in built backup like Motorola has its RSD lite?
Thanks!
androidnewbie123 said:
I'm about to get an LG G2, probably sprint or verizon edition.
Is it possible to unlock the Sprint/Verizon LG G2 to use it on T-Mobile or worldwide carriers? With 4G and LTE?
Are there good ROMs for this device? Does it come with an in built backup like Motorola has its RSD lite?
Thanks!
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Yes you can unlock these models to work on any GSM carrier, and I recommend resurrection remix rom or cloudy g3,Res Remix rom is the latest version of Android (5.0.2)
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androidnewbie123 said:
I'm about to get an LG G2, probably sprint or verizon edition.
Is it possible to unlock the Sprint/Verizon LG G2 to use it on T-Mobile or worldwide carriers? With 4G and LTE?
Are there good ROMs for this device? Does it come with an in built backup like Motorola has its RSD lite?
Thanks!
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You won't get LTE on the Sprint model on T-Mobile I think. I don't know about Verizon. 3.5G HSPA+ will work fine though. As for good ROMs, you'll have to deal with bugs. Though I had good luck with dr87's Madhi ROM (kitkat). A pity he's retired from the G2 deving scene...
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androidnewbie123 said:
I'm about to get an LG G2, probably sprint or verizon edition.
Is it possible to unlock the Sprint/Verizon LG G2 to use it on T-Mobile or worldwide carriers? With 4G and LTE?
Are there good ROMs for this device? Does it come with an in built backup like Motorola has its RSD lite?
Thanks!
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do remember that the maximum number of ROMs/accessories are for the GSM series (D800/801/802/803)
Get the Verizon model
It also has Qi Wireless Charging, Unlocked GSM radios, good rom support.
player911 said:
Get the Verizon model
It also has Qi Wireless Charging, Unlocked GSM radios, good rom support.
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Thanks for the heads up!
Does the Verizon model support the bands of LTE for other carriers though?
sandys1 said:
do remember that the maximum number of ROMs/accessories are for the GSM series (D800/801/802/803)
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I'll keep this in mind, the only ROM I'd like so far is CM12 though
itzdajosh said:
Yes you can unlock these models to work on any GSM carrier, and I recommend resurrection remix rom or cloudy g3,Res Remix rom is the latest version of Android (5.0.2)
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Thank you for your ROM recommendation, although I believe the Sprint model can't use LTE/4G on other GSM networks.
androidnewbie123 said:
Thank you for your ROM recommendation, although I believe the Sprint model can't use LTE/4G on other GSM networks.
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Ah ok
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PloniAlmoni said:
You won't get LTE on the Sprint model on T-Mobile I think. I don't know about Verizon. 3.5G HSPA+ will work fine though. As for good ROMs, you'll have to deal with bugs. Though I had good luck with dr87's Madhi ROM (kitkat). A pity he's retired from the G2 deving scene...
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It's great that the Sprint edition of the G2 is cheaper, but it won't work for my T-Mobile 4G plan I guess.
Bugs are fine, I've been on my Atrix 2 for ages and flashed more than 10 ROMs
Just a quick question: If I get any version of the G2 that's locked, can I flash a custom ROM to unlock it?
androidnewbie123 said:
Just a quick question: If I get any version of the G2 that's locked, can I flash a custom ROM to unlock it?
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What do you mean by locked?
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It is locked to Verizon, being a Verizon phone... but it has Unlocked GSM bands... so it will work with AT&T and Tmobile with no problem, without tweaking. I believe you can also flash actual Tmobile/AT&T roms on it. I am not 100% certain but I am pretty sure I have heard of people doing this to gain extra carrier specific stuff like T-Mobile's WiFi calling.
Also I like CloudyG3 2.0 rom. CM12 Lollipop also works great on the Verizon G2
I don't think that the Verizon G2 will work with T-Mobile LTE either, unless it supports both T-Mobile's and Verizon's LTE bands. You can use T-Mobile with either device, just no LTE.
What about the AT&T model? Can I tweak that to work worldwide and with T-Mobile 4G?
PloniAlmoni said:
I don't think that the Verizon G2 will work with T-Mobile LTE either, unless it supports both T-Mobile's and Verizon's LTE bands. You can use T-Mobile with either device, just no LTE.
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I can attest to this - I took my G2 to the Philippines without modification and was able to use it on their GSM network.
Why would you want a G2, as a stock phone it is one of the best ever, BUT as a phone for flashing roms and stuff, it is like a cold wet rag, yeah we have some FULLY functioning stock based and ported roms, there are also some cute roms that are far from fully functional (AOSP, CM, PA, etc etc),yeah you can have themes but you can bet you will be giving up something for pretty icons, i.e rotation, BT, GPS, Volume, screen damage, etc., hell sometimes you might give up all of these, smh.
If you want to flash "fully functioning" non-alpha/beta roms then check out some other phones too before making that purchase.
As far as getting phones from one company to work on another's network, I thought that if they do not allow the IMEI number it won't matter what you do to unlock. Maybe I am mistaken.
androidnewbie123 said:
Thanks for the heads up!
Does the Verizon model support the bands of LTE for other carriers though?
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Most people I've see post about it on vzw get LTE NP, and everything seems to work well for them.
There was a good bit of people having issues with screen damage, but a lot of that has weened off, haven't seen anyone post about it for a while.
Been flashing this vs980 daily for over a year, and its good to go. Best phone I've purchased.
ossito2012 said:
Why would you want a G2, as a stock phone it is one of the best ever, BUT as a phone for flashing roms and stuff, it is like a cold wet rag, yeah we have some FULLY functioning stock based and ported roms, there are also some cute roms that are far from fully functional (AOSP, CM, PA, etc etc),yeah you can have themes but you can bet you will be giving up something for pretty icons, i.e rotation, BT, GPS, Volume, screen damage, etc., hell sometimes you might give up all of these, smh.
If you want to flash "fully functioning" non-alpha/beta roms then check out some other phones too before making that purchase.
As far as getting phones from one company to work on another's network, I thought that if they do not allow the IMEI number it won't matter what you do to unlock. Maybe I am mistaken.
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I think you're wrong. There are some great ROMs for the G2. Even CM12 i heard runs surprisingly flawless. I personally love the LG ROMs and running a G3 port that is super solid. The G2 is a wicked phone and has a sweet dev community because of it.
I've not heard any negative complaints.
player911 said:
I think you're wrong. There are some great ROMs for the G2. Even CM12 i heard runs surprisingly flawless. I personally love the LG ROMs and running a G3 port that is super solid. The G2 is a wicked phone and has a sweet dev community because of it.
I've not heard any negative complaints.
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I don't think that they own a G2. CM11 was as solid as stock and the CM12 based roms are great with only very minor issues.