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I just got my Touch Pro yesterday. When I ordered it I went ahead and added tethering. With my 6800/Titan/Mogul, I was able to tether via bluetooth no problem with a custom ROM that added "internet sharing".
The only way to tether via bluetooth on the Touch Pro stock ROM is via "Modem Link". I got it working fine on Vista. But my work laptop I commute an hour to work each way, is the MacBook Pro.
I absolutely do not want to use a USB cord as there is not much room when you have someone sitting next to you. So I want to be able to connect, and put the phone back in my pocket.
I've searched hi and low for a solution, but can't find anything useful that actually works.
Any suggestions/step by step walk through on a working solution would be much appreciated!!
Thanks!
go->utilities->bluetooth->add new device->phone....should be self explanatory from there.
nikon858 said:
go->utilities->bluetooth->add new device->phone....should be self explanatory from there.
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No, this does not work. It only holds the connection for 5 to 15 seconds before it fails. It worked great with my Mogul, but I've looked everywhere and can't get it to work with my TP!
yeah same here. i've gotten it to connect a couple times, but then it's only for a for about 5-10 seconds and then disconnects. I just ordered a bluetooth dongle that works with mac osx just to be sure it's not the internal bluetooth on the mac. I could be wrong, but I think the reason it's not stable as my previous phone is because connecting via "internet sharing" created a PAN vs. DUN. On my MacBook Pro it would say "join network on <phone name>" and it would work perfect. Using "modem link" I think is just using the DUN profile. Maybe JETware will expose PAN profile and more profiles? I want to try it, but it looks like it's old software.
well no luck with the bluetooth dongle ordered for the mac as there is no software to install that came with it. plugged it in and the os x bluetooth used the dongle instead of the built in bluetooth hardware. that was the only difference.
But again, I don't think it has anything to do with the Mac. I believe it's just the lack of the PAN profile on the phone. DUN profile works fine on the PC, but sucks on the MAC. At least with Verizon and/or the Touch Pro.
I think I'll remove the tethering package until a custom ROM comes out that enables the PAN profile. Hopefully someone can unlock GPS too. Other than VZW locking down those 2 things, I think the phone is great!
http://www.wmwifirouter.com/
"WMWifiRouter instantly turns your wifi enabled smartphone* into a wireless internet hotspot. Now you can use your laptop and any other device with wifi to get online and surf, email, instant message, and anything else you normally use the internet for"
Internet Sharing App: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321393
WOW! Thank you! http://www.wmwifirouter.com Works great. It took a little time to troubleshoot at first. But it's always those quick simple solutions that getcha. I just had to disable the power saving feature. But definitely a cool program worth shelling out $30 for. I had no idea that bluetooth limits bandwidth so much. Through WiFi I'm getting 2,418 kbps down and 516 kbps up. I think with bluetooth I was only able to get like 200-400 kbps down. I also had no idea pocket pc's were capable of acting like a router.
Thanks again. This seems to be the best solution for tethering VZW Touch Pro with a MacBook Pro.
By the way, I also tried the Interent Sharing app. Although it puts the program on your phone, it doesn't enable the PAN profile on the phone. So I'm guessing Verizon's a little smarter than just letting a simple app unlock it. I'm assuming a custom ROM in the future will unlock the PAN profile. Even if it does become unlocked, sharing through WiFi is so much faster that it's not even worth it going through bluetooth.
So I got my self to thinking; What is the best way to handle connectivity for my devices?
I have a rooted/rom'd Evo Shift, and will have my gTab soon (hopefully). I generally leave BT on my phone on all the time, and it is currently paired with my Car's head unit to stream audio and hands free calls.
Do I pair my table to my phone via BT and tether?
What are the consequences of leaving that on all the time? How would that affect the battery life of the phone and tablet? I know in the old days when you used the PAM (phone as modem) your phone didn't get any internet connectivity. Is that the case with BT tethering?
Do I pair my tablet with my head unit? I don't know if it can be paired with more then one device. I doubt it though. Maybe just pair hands free from my phone and a2dp from the gtab? Not sure if that is possible, have to read the head unit's manual.
I apologize for the incoherent ramblings. I'm trying to figure out what other people have done along with what works well, or what doesn't work at all.
Thanks,
So I've read up a little more and found some answers.
Looks like I can get GPS information from my phone via blue tooth. This will be awesome in the car. Any one who has done this, is it possible to get internet tethering via blue tooth from the same phone at the same time?
Using wifi to tether data while i use blue tooth for GPS information is possible, but doesn't seem very elegant.
It doesn't look like my head unit can have multiple BT pairings active at the same time. Guess I will have to use an aux cable for the tab and BT for my phone.
An ideal solution would be for my tab to use wifi for internet if available, and tether via BT to my phone if a wifi network is not available. It would be nice to leave the tethering open all day, but I think that would drain my phones battery something fierce. My over all concept it to have a personal network of interconnected devices with my phone acting as their connection to the internet.
Any advice, comments, death threats or criticism (constructive or not).
Bluetooth GPS sharing is very doable. There are several threads dedicated to setting this up. Looks like you may have found a few of them.
Tethering BT data to your phone is also very doable. Again, there are several threads on this, and I'm pretty active in most of them. Been working on this for a bit.
Start with this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001496
Wifi tethering is much easier. The issue I've had is mostly around BT and Wifi signal conflicts. I don't see it much in just using BT GPS and WiFi Data, but if I receive a call (I use a BT headset when on the road), the quality of my call is in the toilet for at least a minute or so. My guess is that the Tab is trying to get WiFI data from the phone (which it won't be able to because I'm on the phone - VZW CDMA - can't be on the Net and on phone at same time). After about a minute or so, it calms down. Unacceptable solution though.
So, I've now been mostly doing GPS & Data through Bluetooth to the phone. The problem with this hookup is again when I take a call, of course my Data drops on the tab (no way around that). But even worse, the GPS signal gets degraded too. I'm thinking just not enough Bluetooth bandwidth to support Headset, Data, and GPS at the same time?
So my most recent setup (just tried it for a bit today) is to use an external Bluetooth GPS (got one on Amazon for about $25.00) and then Bluetooth Tether to the phone for data. It's a little bit complicated, and involves yet another 'gadget', but I am getting the best results from this setup so far.
Thanks for the info.
I'm on sprint and know the "no data and voice" problem all to well. Even when using maps for navigation on my phone, if a call comes in, the GPS becomes retarded and inaccurate. Once the call ends, all is good.
with getting data from your phone via bluetooth, is that something you leave on all the time or do you have to turn on BT tethering when you want data?
grandebob said:
Thanks for the info.
I'm on sprint and know the "no data and voice" problem all to well. Even when using maps for navigation on my phone, if a call comes in, the GPS becomes retarded and inaccurate. Once the call ends, all is good.
with getting data from your phone via bluetooth, is that something you leave on all the time or do you have to turn on BT tethering when you want data?
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I haven't been using that often to be honest. So when I do, I turn on BT tethering at that time.
I also use Co-Pilot for Navigation. It doesn't need data, just GPS. Map data is downloaded to the sdcard. Just depends on how I feel at that moment. Both nav systems have their advantages/disadvantages.
I'll have to check out co-pilot. storing maps for offline use sounds like a good idea, as long as they don't get stale.
OK, so I've kind of got blue tooth GPS data working. Using an app called "ShareGPS" on my phone and "BlueToothGPS" on my gtab, I've successfully gotten gps data to my tab. Using the BlueToothGPS app on my tab, i can see satellites and GPS data flowing. Unfortunately maps doesn't seem to get location data, and there doesn't appear to be a way to enable GPS data in any of the settings.
Running TnT lite. Any one know how I can get maps to see the GPS data?
I just got my Tab last night and while at work, decided to download a book that I'm in the middle of (Amazon archive). Our wifi at work is weak (to say the least) and I couldn't keep a connection long enough to download one book. It finally dawned on me that my rooted Evo has wireless tether. It worked like a champ! It's the first time I've used it and I gotta tell you, that alone made my day. Nice strong connection and I was able to websurf to my heart's content. I'm running TnT Lite 4.40.
The ad revenue from this app has passed the $25 mark -- what it cost me to register with Google to put the app in the market. As promised, any revenue the app earns from that point forward will be added to my annual donation to the Baypath Humane Society of Hopkinton, Massachusetts -- a no-kill shelter.
Thanks from me and thanks from the kittens and puppies.
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I've written a widget to establish a PAN connection between the Nook a phone. It grabs the first networking-capable device it finds in the list of pairings. A couple of things to note:
There is an application. All it will do is show you what device, if any, it can connect to. It has to turn on Bluetooth to get the list, but it will politely ask you before doing so.
The widget will turn on Bluetooth, but it isn't so polite. For the life of me, I can't find a code snippet nor can I think of one that will start the polite activity (or any activity) from a widget that doesn't directly involve a button press. If anyone has such a snippet, I'd love to see it. I know its possible because the Bluetooth GPS widget does it. Fixed!
The widget, of course, requires root.
I do send a Toast when the process is complete, but toast from my widget isn't reliable. I need to figure that out, too... advice is welcome. Fixed!
Still to do: Monitor the connection and reflect the status in the widget. Fixed!
If nothing else, it's prettier than a GSCript script. Once it's stable and complete, I'll stick it in the marketplace.
Note... You must be running CM7 and you must have already paired the phone before you can use this....
Apr-13: New version with better Bluetooth device state management.
Apr-17: Added connection monitoring, polite Bluetooth enabling
Note: The pop-up to grant superuser access is asynchronous, so there may be a timing window on first use where state is not correctly monitored. I'll try to work that out, but in the meantime, all subsequent uses should work.
The icon will display a yellow LED during the connection process and a green one once the connection is going.
If a connection could not be established, the LED may go briefly green, then turn off. The challenge is that the only way I can monitor the connection is with "pand -l" or "ifconfig bnep0" and if the connection is gone, the attempt to read the result from those commands simply hangs. So, I start a thread and then periodically run "pand -l". A different thread monitors the first and, if it looks stuck, I kill the process and turn off the LED. But, until I can be sure it's really stuck and not just taking time to answer, the LED will be green. Fixed!
Obviously, once the connection is broken, the LED will go off.
Since I have the LED, I've taken out most of the toast, though some still comes from the OS.
Apr-19 Fixed the widget graphics so the LED turns off instead of disappearing. Fixed the green-before-failed connection status issue. Added a proper toggle -- if the connection is off, tapping the widget turns it on and if the connection is on, tapping the widget turns it off.
Apr-20 The official version is now in the Market:
https://market.android.com/details?id=earlmagnus.nctether
May-27 Fixed a null pointer issue discovered by Ophbalance
As always, feedback is welcome.
Could you accomplish the blue tooth polite toggle with a conditional method?
Check blue tooth status,
if off, direct user to settings-> blue tooth
I know thats not as cool as a nice button press
Downloadin ur app now!
One other oddness...
... Android doesn't seem to think the tethered connection is worthy of note. If you start the browser after being connected, you'll be told you have no connection. Pages will load perfectly well, anyway.
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... Android doesn't seem to think the tethered connection is worthy of note. If you start the browser after being connected, you'll be told you have no connection. Pages will load perfectly well, anyway.
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I'm pretty sure it's because Android does not natively have bluetooth DUN capabilities, at least input-wise; it's based on functions within custom kernels, and therefore the system does not recognize it as a connection capable of fueling GApps.
But I could be completely wrong / that information could be outdated; this is from my research into Bluetooth DUN for my Nook when I first got it a while ago, and I'm not much of a developer. I'd more call myself someone who likes dabbling with code, and watching everything break.
But back to this post's point: thank you so much, you are a god. I've been looking for an easier way to do this for so damn long.
Kudos, sir. Kudos.
This is very promising! Now, what is the feasibility of adding Bluetooth DUN support? A number of phones out there (to include Blackberries) do not support PAN. I've done a lot of googling and have come across one resource, which may or may not be useful: https://github.com/wertarbyte/android_vendor_cyanogen/blob/omni-tether/prebuilt/common/bin/tether
The "pand" binary is included with the CM7 ROM, but "dund" is not. How much effort would be involved in adding this functionality?
Thanks in advance and appreciate any guidance..
exactly what i was looking for.
Thanks a lot for this. Will be installing and tethering to my iphone via mywii
I will report back with results.
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This is very promising! Now, what is the feasibility of adding Bluetooth DUN support? A number of phones out there (to include Blackberries) do not support PAN. I've done a lot of googling and have come across one resource, which may or may not be useful: https://github.com/wertarbyte/android_vendor_cyanogen/blob/omni-tether/prebuilt/common/bin/tether
The "pand" binary is included with the CM7 ROM, but "dund" is not. How much effort would be involved in adding this functionality?
Thanks in advance and appreciate any guidance..
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DUN is in a whole different ballpark. I don't know what's involved.
Thanks, folks, for trying it out. I have an idea for monitoring connection status, but other than some POC work, I probably won't get to it before the weekend.
It doesn't work for me, it says tethering then tethered and then starts tethring again and this goes on quite sm time and then the internet doesn't work, i really needed this:-(
am running pherimod 5.3 and trying to tether with sony erricsion's k530i which has bluetooth networking.
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It doesn't work for me, it says tethering then tethered and then starts tethring again and this goes on quite sm time and then the internet doesn't work, i really needed this:-(
am running pherimod 5.3 and trying to tether with sony erricsion's k530i which has bluetooth networking.
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Does the application show the the phone and its BT address?
Is there a particular app you have to start on the phone before you begin tethering and, if so, does it show status if a link is established?
EDIT: Also... have you used the phone for tethering before with a laptop? Do you know tethering should work?
For the life of me, I can't think of anything that would make it loop through connection attempts other than mashing the widget repeatedly.
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Does the application show the the phone and its BT address?
Is there a particular app you have to start on the phone before you begin tethering and, if so, does it show status if a link is established?
EDIT: Also... have you used the phone for tethering before with a laptop? Do you know tethering should work?
For the life of me, I can't think of anything that would make it loop through connection attempts other than mashing the icon repeatedly.
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Yes phone and address are both shown, i start tethring by taping the widget and as for the status i see nothng xcpt bluetooth icon, which shows that both the devices are connected. But am trying this with a gprs connection. i havent tried 3g yet, will that be any different?
Yes the phone has bluetooth tethring, the pc suite has a module for bluetooth internet.
I've attached a new version in the OP. Have a try.
I've improved managing the Bluetooth device. Final state of the connection still isn't reported... that will have to wait.
I would remove the widget and uninstall the old app before installing the new version.
Hm... pand --nodetach doesn't do what I hoped it would in a --connect context... So much for that idea.
I'm trying to use this app to tether my nook to my moto Droid. When I tap the widget it says there's no paired PAN device. I've tethered these two before using the pand command, so I know it's possible. Am I doing something wrong? The droid and nook are "paired but not connected", but every Bluetooth device has said that.
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I'm trying to use this app to tether my nook to my moto Droid. When I tap the widget it says there's no paired PAN device. I've tethered these two before using the pand command, so I know it's possible. Am I doing something wrong? The droid and nook are "paired but not connected", but every Bluetooth device has said that.
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They were probably paired while the droid wasn't advertising the profile. I rely on the list of paired devices knowing which is the network provider.
Try this:
- Remove the Droid from the list of paired devices on the Nook
- Enable visibility on the Droid
- Get the Droid ready for a PAN connection
- Then, from the Nook, initiate pairing
That should ensure the Nook sees the Droid can provide a network connection.
Now I just need my phone to just advertise the bluetooth network without having to run wifi tether.
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Now I just need my phone to just advertise the bluetooth network without having to run wifi tether.
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Nothing WiFi related will help you.
My WinMo 6.5 phone just shows a list of nearly a dozen profiles it supports, PAN being one of them. My suggesting about getting the phone ready for PAN before pairing came from my experience setting up my Ubuntu system as a tethering client. Both that and the Nook recognized the PAN profile when I did that.
The only app I could find that supports bluetooth tethering and is reliable on my HTC Hero is wifi tether set up in bluetooth mode. I have been using it for over a year with my netbook.
What would make the bluetooth tethering the cat's ass would be to not to have to start anything on the phone, for the connection to always be available so i could just wip out the nook and be able to use the data connection.
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The only app I could find that supports bluetooth tethering and is reliable on my HTC Hero is wifi tether set up in bluetooth mode. I have been using it for over a year with my netbook.
What would make the bluetooth tethering the cat's ass would be to not to have to start anything on the phone, for the connection to always be available so i could just wip out the nook and be able to use the data connection.
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Can't help you there... that's up to the phone.
In my case, it's an HTC Topaz and I have to start an app on that, too...
I am happy to report it works well with mywii running on my iphone and tethering from the nook.
Did not have any issues at all. And yes, i did have to hold my iphone the right way
Ok maybe its just me not finding this out till right now but you can Pair your Phone to your Tablet, then in Settings hit Internet access via tether and Bam !!
Internet Access !! Not rooted
Figure I pass this along to those that dont know.. Free interwebs !!
Yup. 10char
Paired my galaxy s II to my tablet through bluetooth. I enabled bluetooth tethering but still can't get an internet connection. Under bluetooth settings it says next to the galaxy s II - Paired but not connected
you have to hit the little wrench next to it and go to enable internet access
hmm the wrench gives me -
xxxxx options
Rename Device
Unpair
Pofiles
xxxxx being the name of my phone and nothing underneath profiles
if able to, use wifi tethering instead. BT slowestof tethering methods. but if wifi won't work, BT is better than no connection at all. Barnacle or Wifi Tether are good apps to use. phone with internet connection needs root for it to work. so o guess if your phone not rooted and BT tether works, its better than nothing. lol
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hmm the wrench gives me -
xxxxx options
Rename Device
Unpair
Pofiles
xxxxx being the name of my phone and nothing underneath profiles
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Right underneath rofile is where the Use for internet option is..
I have a droid X
Connect both via bluetooth then hit wrench and enable internet access
maybe it doesnt work on all phones ?
demandarin said:
if able to, use wifi tethering instead. BT slowestof tethering methods. but if wifi won't work, BT is better than no connection at all. Barnacle or Wifi Tether are good apps to use. phone with internet connection needs root for it to work. so o guess if your phone not rooted and BT tether works, its better than nothing. lol
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My Tether app stopped working till I use the Tether Patch but just havent gotten around to it, Bluetooth tether isnt that slow, seems pretty fast to me..
jackelbait said:
My Tether app stopped working till I use the Tether Patch but just havent gotten around to it, Bluetooth tether isnt that slow, seems pretty fast to me..
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its decent. if you do a speedtest.net comparison of the 2 tethering methods, wifi always alot faster. BT is good though. as long as you able to tether, that's all that matters, no matter the method used.
jackelbait said:
Right underneath rofile is where the Use for internet option is..
I have a droid X
Connect both via bluetooth then hit wrench and enable internet access
maybe it doesnt work on all phones ?
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I have a galaxy s2 with juggernaut rom but it doesnt work. maybe it's not for all phones
i can pair it as you said but I can't get on the internet. It takes me to the Verizon tether page telling me I have to pay for tethering. I have a rooted Droid X but don't have any tethering apps installed. I thought for a minute you found a way around this.
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I have a galaxy s2 with juggernaut rom but it doesnt work. maybe it's not for all phones
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Doesn't Work with my revolution but I don think bluetooth works properly on that either lol
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Doesn't work on my Evo 3D as well
Wow that sucks its not working for any of you..
My Droid X is rooted but I am not using any of those and nothing asked for Superuser access
Not sure why it works for me. I have Wifi off and Just Bluetooth on
I connect both of them and it says they Paired but not connected, Then I click the wrench next to them and choose Use for internet access..it says connected
then I go right to google.com and it just works
I have the latest updates from Asus also
Works with my droid 2!
I had to press the wrench next to it and turn internet access off and back on again before it kicked in.
Now I want to upgrade to a 4G phone even more...
You have to be rooted and have a kernel that supports wifi tether. Thenn you have to run a .zip patch through the recovery screen just Google your device and include wifi tether and/or patch. There are hundreds of how to writeups.
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You have to be rooted and have a kernel that supports wifi tether. Thenn you have to run a .zip patch through the recovery screen just Google your device and include wifi tether and/or patch. There are hundreds of how to writeups.
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Or use Bluetooth for the lucky few that it works for, no need for rooting or patching etc etc
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i can pair it as you said but I can't get on the internet. It takes me to the Verizon tether page telling me I have to pay for tethering. I have a rooted Droid X but don't have any tethering apps installed. I thought for a minute you found a way around this.
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easy solution then. if u rooted already, just Google the wireless tethering apk and Barnacle apk. and you should be able to tether over wifi without having to pay for the plan. as long as you have a data connection and don't go overboard on the tethering like doing huge downloads n such.
Yeah I know I can install the apk's and make it work but I am a little afraid of getting caught and losing my grandfathered unlimited data plan. I read once where they can see that you are tethering since the MAC address of the device using the data is embedded in the transmission or something like that.
Any Verizon phones successfully connected?
If you have a Verizon phone and can bluetooth tether please say which model you have. I unfortunately bricked my HTC Incredible trying to follow some convoluted process for downgrading and then rooting.
So, yeah, I have to get a new phone and would like to know which one I should get that will allow me to bluetooth tether without rooting.
BTW, I am getting really frustrated with Android and the tweaking, hacking, and manipulating just to get functions to work. I don't have an Apple bone in my body, but I envy them for ease of use.
Hi!
My ZW2 with newest firmware has a strange behavior.
When I turn of bluetooth on my phone, the watch establishes the connection via wifi, gets an ip and has a valid internet connection...
so far so good...
but the connection to the phone doesnt work.
Neither "ok google" commands (they end with a screen "offline") or notifications works.
A hard reset has the problem not solved.
anyone with the same experience?
thank you
Yeah I've had limited success with Wi-Fi use (never been able to get it work at home which is odd...but there have been a few public places where it works just fine).
late,
Coz
cozboogie said:
Yeah I've had limited success with Wi-Fi use (never been able to get it work at home which is odd...but there have been a few public places where it works just fine).
late,
Coz
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I have the exact same issue. I haven't gotten it to work yet!
have same issues, some times make the phone google app crash, its seem to work better (but not like do over bluetooh) when the phone is connected over mobile data.
no dice here either. Any rhyme or reason? I would like to at least get it working / tested in a know good scenario to determine how and when we can expect things not to work (and why).