[Q] Galaxy S3 i9305 on 4.3 losing root mode on reboot - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

(I cant post to the original thread, but im hoping someone here can help me please?)
Ive rooted 6 or so different android phones mainly using cf-autoroot, including an i9300, and never had any issues. But I have had a few issues rooting my 9503 using the cf-autoroot method (method #1 in this post). It aooeared to work, but SuperSU subsequently fell over, and Knox complained but after reading other posts I rectified that, but obviously not quite correctly:
After using cf-autoroot, SuperSU DID NOT appear in the apps list, but Google Play said it was installed but only presented the option to open it (not update or remove).
So I then tried flashing twrp (as per method #2 in this post) which all appeared to go successfully according to Odin. I was expecting to install superSU updater, as per step 3, but recovery mode appeared unchanged/stock so of course I couldnt flash anything as there was no option to do so. Yet there were no errors reported by Odin?
So I then got hold of the app file for SuperSU 1.93 and installed it (via Airdroid). It ran. It found knox. It removed it, and root was installed successfully (as verified by root checkers, titanium backup, droid wall and the like). So I concluded I had successfully rooted my 9305.
But when I reboot SuperSU falls over again on boot up, and the version I added via Airdroid has disappeared, and of course there is no root mode.
But I can then restore root access after a reboot simply by following the same process, namley installing the supersu apk via Airdroid.
Can anyone suggest what is the easiest way to get round this, or even why it's happening? And why is the later version of SuperSU disappearing on reboot?

non persistent SU after rooting Android 4.3 - solved
OK, so Im still unsure how I ended up successfully rooted ,but then reverting back to a non-working or incompatible SU version on reboot (presumably the version installed via cf-root?). It's news to me that an app installed via standard means can be overridden for any reason on reboot. One day someone might explain that or tell me the appropriate phrase to use for my friend google so he can explain it to me.
So what I was then trying to do was install a custom recovery so I could flash the latest SU, as per OP. Try as I might I cant. Even removing the battery once TWRP has been transferred using Odin the standard recovery still prevails. So that one is still unresolved.
But in the meantime, as with most well written apps, the answer is within SU itself. Going into Options in the Su installed via the standard app installer, I selected the option to install that SU as a binary. And it worked, so now SU persists across reboots.
Just in case someone else has the same issue, although judging by all the replies I suspect not (or maybe everyone else is able to post to the original thread, although I dont see this exact problem or solutio there).
If it didnt help anyone, sorry for wasting your time!

Hi,
I have the same problem : my root is lost after each reboot.
I must uninstall SuperSU, then update SuperSU end reboot to have the root again.
Could you give me your solution with simple words because I don't understand what you posted befort. Sorry for my bad english ...
Thanks.

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[Q] Cannot install xrecovery after rooting phone in order to use custom mods

So I've been reading forum after forum and can't seem to figure out what I'm doing wrong and decided to do a post.
I have a X10a and recently rooted it with the following guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711907
Everything seemed to work fine and now I have the superuser.apk as well as the ADW launcher on my phone.
I've been trying to install xrecovery so that I can load some custom roms onto my phone and have tried both the manual method and using the .apk installer here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859571
I have had no luck doing so.
I can sideload apps fine (so I guess I have superuser permission?) but my phone won't allow me to install xrecovery. Busybox also says my phone is not rooted. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I've spend a couple hours every day this week working on this and searching forums and can't seem to come up with a solution. Thanks!
Hey, I had a few problems with getting xrecovery to install as well. Are you 100% sure you rooted ur x10 correctly, given that busybox says its not rooted? I used z4root to root my x10. If you used a different app to root ur X10, try this one instead. It tells you on the front screen whether ur phone is rooted or not. If it isn't rooted, try rooting it with this app. I can't post links unfortunately but you can find it easily with a google search. If not, I'd be more than happy to help you with this outside of the forum on the likes of a messenger program. Just drop me a PM if you're okay to do this.
Please explain what is going on better than I can't install. I can probably help, if I know your situation.
Sent from my X10a using XDA App
you must be rooted, have busybox and superuser permissons.
Everytime I try to install it using this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859571
which I'm assuming is the latest, I get the error message that I can't install this app on my phone (the same standard error message that you would get by trying to sideload an app before you rooted your phone). Busybox also won't install and says my phone isn't rooted. I've downloaded a few other apps that require root for functionality and I get the same error with all of them.
I do have the superuser .apk on my phone so I'm not sure what the issue is. I've re-flashed the phone three times now to try and root it and every time it seems to work, but the end product is a phone that still won't let me install third party apps.
I have the x10a in the states and don't have access to the official 2.1 update yet so I can't use any of the one click rooting methods out there. I did find this though and might try it tonight (not sure if it will work though, or if I can even utilize it). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=920746
If I need to explain more, I will do my best. Thanks for your help!
same
Hi all,
Same issue here except that busybox is installed.
I've tried to install manually but pressing back while booting doesn't do anything but regular boot.
Help would be appreciated
install busybox from the market
Also, I can't use Z4 or anything similar as I don't have the official 2.1 update. Sony hasn't rolled it out in the states yet and considering that the end of life for the phone with AT&T is fast approaching (March or something now) I'm doubtful that they will.
So I found some other apps that allow you to check for Root Access. According to all the evidence I've collected (inability to sideload, busybox won't install, multiple root checker apps say my phone is NOT rooted) my phone wasn't rooted correctly.
I've gone through the guide to root x10a's with 1.6 3 times though and have the superuser .apk on my phone. Hope this additional information helps
Just to be precise... I've got root (titanium, copy to system works) busybox from market but it always says can't install on that phone. Tried manual installation without success. Tried gscript way but no luck.
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
Solved for me !!!
I finally managed to install xRecovery and Custom ROM using this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928343
Thx rendeiro2005 and all the other
Everything goes fine with "easy way" procedure.
Then installed busybox from market plus installed xRecovery.
To access it press power button and then I use to clic several time back key until I can see the recovery menus.
I think my issue was because the previous root method I used gave me a 1.6 android system and therefore xRecovery installer may not work with it.
Thanks all.
hello rooted android 2.1
Never mind I got it working. Wasn't aware there were better flash tools out there and I found one that worked for me. Thanks to everyone who tried to help
the new Flashtool version 0.2.6 works pretty well
its does the rooting, and can help to install busybox, xrecovery.
Yes Flashtool can provide "all-in-one" tool.
Flash, root, clean junk files, install apk files in just one click, install xRecovery, etc, etc, etc...
DONĀ“T install busybox if you have xrecovery installed!!!
xrecovery
Hi everyone. I am at my wits end. I have followed everything to the letter to install xRecovery and it is not working. I have superuser working my phone is rooted and busybox is installed (root check says it is working) but the first time i tried the three apps in xRecovery were not all ticked. busy box had a cross saying something along the lines of no such directory. I reflashed my phone and went through the whole thing again and now i have red crosses on all three saying permission denied. I have gone into root explorer and everything is R/W however if i acces the three files on sdcard/data/com.zoz etc and go to permissions to turn them all on it says some file systems eg sdcards do not allow permission changes. I dont know if i need to do this but its the last thing i can think of. HELP!!!
I usualy root my phone through flashtool, its just a one click, be sure to enable the bugging and and click root. Make sure if superuser appears on ur phone, that u allow it 2!
Edit: Just read that uve successfully rooted ur phone. Did you try to install recovery through flashtool?
To make sure uve rooted ur phone, enter flashtool (enable debbugging first), click on Ask Root Perms, if ur phone IS rooted it will say so. Click on xRecovery (in flashtool ofcourse), and u will have it installed

[Q] No superuser permission after following root procedure

Hi all,
I rooted my galaxy s 2 a few weeks back with no problems. I followed the dummy's guide on a different forum, using odin and flashing a new kernel.
But then I decided to unroot which I did with no problems either -I went into the superuser app and checking the unroot box which uninstalled superuser and removed root on the phone (it left CWM though).
Today, I've decided to reroot it like I did the first time. However, this time superuser didn't install and I don't have root access at all.
Any ideas on what I should do?
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MistahBungle said:
Given you're using a method from a different site that people here may not have experience with, no idea. Me, I'd flash a CFRoot kernel (assuming you have an I9100 or I9100T; if you don't, do not flash one of these kernels. You might end up bricking your phone). Instructions in this thread are very clear, take your time & read the first page thoroughly & make sure you understand the process clearly before you try it. The section in bold red which says 'Help ! Which file do I use ?' has the info which will help you work out which CFRoot kernel to use.
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Thanks for the reply MistahBungle. That's exactly the process that I followed. Didn't have any problems with the rooting process - downloaded the LP9 kernel, entered phone into download mode, and flashed the kernel using Odin. Got the yellow triangle.
I suspect the problem arose because I 'unrooted' it through the superuser app, which then got rid of the superuser app?
Today, I tried following the same process but superuser won't uninstall. I downloaded the root checker basic app which also said the galaxy s 2 doesn't have root permission even though I followed the same process.
MistahBungle said:
Given you're using a method from a different site that people here may not have experience with, no idea. Me, I'd flash a CFRoot kernel (assuming you have an I9100 or I9100T; if you don't, do not flash one of these kernels. You might end up bricking your phone). Instructions in this thread are very clear, take your time & read the first page thoroughly & make sure you understand the process clearly before you try it. The section in bold red which says 'Help ! Which file do I use ?' has the info which will help you work out which CFRoot kernel to use.
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Thanks for the reply MistahBungle. That's exactly the process that I followed. Didn't have any problems with the rooting process - downloaded the LP9 kernel, entered phone into download mode, and flashed the kernel using Odin. Got the yellow triangle.
I suspect the problem arose because I 'unrooted' it through the superuser app, which then got rid of the superuser app?
Today, I tried following the same process but superuser won't uninstall. I downloaded the root checker basic app which also said the galaxy s 2 doesn't have root permission even though I followed the same process.
MistahBungle said:
Edit - Although first up, before you do anything else, have you tried installing Su from Google Play ?
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Yes I have downloaded and installed the superuser app from the market, but it doesn't have any root permissions I don't think. I also tried opening up the CWM app but it says it needs SU permissions (which it doesn't have because SU is not installed and I cant seem to root it).
What to do? I'm thinking of trying another root method on xda i.e. the busybox one that doesn't require flashing an unstable kernel.
Edit - Although first up, before you do anything else, have you tried installing Su from Google Play ?[/QUOTE]
Yes I have downloaded and installed the superuser app from the market, but it doesn't have any root permissions I don't think. I also tried opening up the CWM app but it says it needs SU permissions (which it doesn't have because SU is not installed and I cant seem to root it).
What to do? I'm thinking of trying another root method on xda i.e. the busybox one that doesn't require flashing an unstable kernel.
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[Q] Randomly lost root access

I recently got s-off, updated from 1.15 to 2.06, installed abp and also flashed a no ads zip file for good measure because some ads would still get through. Everything was going great until the phone randomly froze. I held down the power button and rebooted into recovery and cleared my cache and dalvik cache, thinking that may have been the problem. Upon rebooting after that, I come to find out I've lost my root access. This is so weird. I am still s-off and have the 2222222 confirmation shown when I am in the bootloader, I still have super user installed, but when I run an app that needs root, such as adaway, it says I don't have root. I downloaded root checker and it confirmed that I didn't have root. I don't understand how this could have happened. Is there anyway to regain root? I have been having the worst luck with this phone :\
terrorist96 said:
I recently got s-off, updated from 1.15 to 2.06, installed abp and also flashed a no ads zip file for good measure because some ads would still get through. Everything was going great until the phone randomly froze. I held down the power button and rebooted into recovery and cleared my cache and dalvik cache, thinking that may have been the problem. Upon rebooting after that, I come to find out I've lost my root access. This is so weird. I am still s-off and have the 2222222 confirmation shown when I am in the bootloader, I still have super user installed, but when I run an app that needs root, such as adaway, it says I don't have root. I downloaded root checker and it confirmed that I didn't have root. I don't understand how this could have happened. Is there anyway to regain root? I have been having the worst luck with this phone :\
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Send me a PM if you want me to help you out. You need to install a custom recovery and use that to install a rooted rom and kernel. It can be a stock rooted rom. Or mostly stock however you want to do it, I'll help you set it up and teach you some things along the way.
I can teach you all kinds of things via team viewer, it wont take long and it's a necessity for having a rooted phone in my opinion. I know it can be frustrating and over whelming but it will get better I promise.
Oh and also you don't need to worry about losing s off. It's at a much lower level than anything you've mentioned touching. So it will always be there regardless because you definitely don't want to be messing with hboots or s off type stuff.
Hey, I PMed you.
Try uninstalling superuser and installing either supersu or the other superuser.
Sent from my HTC6435LVW using xda app-developers app
I can't uninstall my Superuser unless I use Titanium Backup. I tried installing SuperSU (while still having my original Superuser installed) and the SuperSU said that "There is no SU binary installed"
terrorist96 said:
I can't uninstall my Superuser unless I use Titanium Backup. I tried installing SuperSU (while still having my original Superuser installed) and the SuperSU said that "There is no SU binary installed"
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I got your PM. I'll pick your brain about the ideal setup for your needs and how you use the DNA via gtalk. Then we'll make a plan of attack and you can update the thread with your solutions opinions etc.
As long as your opinion of me is good. Otherwise, it's prohibited. I have a green title and seniority rules
HTC EVO CyanogenMod Cant use BEATS AUDIO
CharliesTheMan said:
Send me a PM if you want me to help you out. You need to install a custom recovery and use that to install a rooted rom and kernel. It can be a stock rooted rom. Or mostly stock however you want to do it, I'll help you set it up and teach you some things along the way.
I can teach you all kinds of things via team viewer, it wont take long and it's a necessity for having a rooted phone in my opinion. I know it can be frustrating and over whelming but it will get better I promise.
Oh and also you don't need to worry about losing s off. It's at a much lower level than anything you've mentioned touching. So it will always be there regardless because you definitely don't want to be messing with hboots or s off type stuff.
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I need help with rooting my HTC EVO to stock or CyanogenMod. With CyanogenMod my phone will not play audio/BEATS or will not open
PLAYSTORE.
How to get root back after subsequent apps are denied root?
Over the last year, this has happened several times while having different custom roms installed. It happened several times with my Galaxy S4 and S5, and recently with my Galaxy Tab S 10.5. I have not lost root on my Nexus 7 (2013). The common denominator appears to be the Samsung devices.
Through SuperSu, I have removed root, rebooted, and installed root again with CF-Root which has not given me root access.
The only way I have been able to recover to date is to do a factory rest. It is interesting to note that I would have thought that the factory rest would take me back to the Samsung rom but in the last two time that I did this on either device, I ended up with the custom rom that I just had but without root or custom recovery.
To go back to a Samsung rom, I would think that if I started the device in download mode and did a flash with odin.
But rather than go through this, is there a reason why this happens and/or is there a way to avoid it?
Lastly, is there a true way of getting root back once it stops granting root?
cyaclone said:
How to get root back after subsequent apps are denied root?
Over the last year, this has happened several times while having different custom roms installed. It happened several times with my Galaxy S4 and S5, and recently with my Galaxy Tab S 10.5. I have not lost root on my Nexus 7 (2013). The common denominator appears to be the Samsung devices.
Through SuperSu, I have removed root, rebooted, and installed root again with CF-Root which has not given me root access.
The only way I have been able to recover to date is to do a factory rest. It is interesting to note that I would have thought that the factory rest would take me back to the Samsung rom but in the last two time that I did this on either device, I ended up with the custom rom that I just had but without root or custom recovery.
To go back to a Samsung rom, I would think that if I started the device in download mode and did a flash with odin.
But rather than go through this, is there a reason why this happens and/or is there a way to avoid it?
Lastly, is there a true way of getting root back once it stops granting root?
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Best to post such things in your device specific forum.
This forum is for the Droid DNA.
However, gaining root is as simple as downloading the latest SuperSu zip and flashing it in recovery.
Very simple to do on any rom.

[Q] Failed Root?

I'm usually good at searching for answers for my problems, but I couldn't find the answer to my problems. I'll be as specific and detailed as I can.
I got my HTC Rezound and was running Android 4.0.3 out of the box. Then I decided to root my phone mainly to try to remove HTC sense and bloatware.
*First time at rooting*
From my understanding, I first had to unlock the bootloader, install a custom recovery, then install a custom rom (if I choose to, which I wanted to do).
So I successfully unlocked the bootloader through the HTCdev website. (I'll admit I was having trouble initially on my Windows 8.1 desktop, but I switched to my Windows 7 laptop and it worked perfectly)
Then I went on ahead to flash a custom recovery (Amon Ra Recovery).
After that, I managed to go into Recovery from the Bootloader to install Superuser. Then I updated it to the latest version via Google Play.
So far, I was having little to no issues up to this point.
But here's where I start getting into trouble...
Before I install a custom rom I wanted to test out the phone with it's new unlocked features. So I decided to download Titanium Backup (which downloaded and installed successfully) and it failed to find root access. So I decided to do some research and found out that rebooting it a few time helped some people out. Not for me.... Hard rebooted as well, but no dice. Looking at my Superuser (v 3.1.3), I noticed that the binaries were out of date (v3.0.3, and the latest is 3.1.1)
Thinking that this was the issue I tried to update it.
This is what the Binary Updater read:
Downloading manifest... okay!
Parsing manifest... okay!
Latest version = 3.1.1
Checking installed version = 3.0.3
Unpacking sutools... okay!
Checking current install path... /system/bin/su
Downloading new binary... okay!
Gaining root access... fail!
Then I decided to continue reboot 3-5 times, still nothing changes.
I downloaded a root checker app, which also told me that my phone is not rooted. I've also tried to reset my phone to factory settings through Recovery, but nothing changed.
I'm not sure if it's the Amon Ra Recovery or what. All I know is that my phone is telling me that it's not rooted, when I successfully did all the steps to do it. If there is another thread that I may have missed that solves this issue, please help me out.
I'm pretty sure I may just need to update the binary files on Superuser, but I can't do that through the Binary updater on my phone due to it's failing to gain root access. I just can't find the proper Binary files online. I'm also not too sure on how to update the binary files either.
Help?
:angel::crying:
androooleee said:
I'm usually good at searching for answers for my problems, but I couldn't find the answer to my problems. I'll be as specific and detailed as I can.
I got my HTC Rezound and was running Android 4.0.3 out of the box. Then I decided to root my phone mainly to try to remove HTC sense and bloatware.
*First time at rooting*
From my understanding, I first had to unlock the bootloader, install a custom recovery, then install a custom rom (if I choose to, which I wanted to do).
So I successfully unlocked the bootloader through the HTCdev website. (I'll admit I was having trouble initially on my Windows 8.1 desktop, but I switched to my Windows 7 laptop and it worked perfectly)
Then I went on ahead to flash a custom recovery (Amon Ra Recovery).
After that, I managed to go into Recovery from the Bootloader to install Superuser. Then I updated it to the latest version via Google Play.
So far, I was having little to no issues up to this point.
But here's where I start getting into trouble...
Before I install a custom rom I wanted to test out the phone with it's new unlocked features. So I decided to download Titanium Backup (which downloaded and installed successfully) and it failed to find root access. So I decided to do some research and found out that rebooting it a few time helped some people out. Not for me.... Hard rebooted as well, but no dice. Looking at my Superuser (v 3.1.3), I noticed that the binaries were out of date (v3.0.3, and the latest is 3.1.1)
Thinking that this was the issue I tried to update it.
This is what the Binary Updater read:
Downloading manifest... okay!
Parsing manifest... okay!
Latest version = 3.1.1
Checking installed version = 3.0.3
Unpacking sutools... okay!
Checking current install path... /system/bin/su
Downloading new binary... okay!
Gaining root access... fail!
Then I decided to continue reboot 3-5 times, still nothing changes.
I downloaded a root checker app, which also told me that my phone is not rooted. I've also tried to reset my phone to factory settings through Recovery, but nothing changed.
I'm not sure if it's the Amon Ra Recovery or what. All I know is that my phone is telling me that it's not rooted, when I successfully did all the steps to do it. If there is another thread that I may have missed that solves this issue, please help me out.
I'm pretty sure I may just need to update the binary files on Superuser, but I can't do that through the Binary updater on my phone due to it's failing to gain root access. I just can't find the proper Binary files online. I'm also not too sure on how to update the binary files either.
Help?
:angel::crying:
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1) I'd recommend TWRP or CWM for your recovery, both can be found in the Original Development section.
2) Try flashing this via recovery for root on an ICS rom - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23897942&postcount=371
i think rooting method u use is not working.
have u try another rooting method?
like z4root or superOneClick shortfuse?

[Q] S4 Rooting Problem

Hello! I am an extremely newbie in rooting so this is my issue. I just rooted my S4 I9505XXUGNH8. I used odin and the root file from chainfire. It passed. So I thought there' s no problem but after 5 hours or so, when I lock my phone it restarts. Plus my bluetooth won't turn on. So I saw this option in SuperSU that I presumed will unroot my phone. I clicked it and say yes. I restarted my phone, the said app was not there anymore. Checked root checker and it says no proper root access or something like that so I thought I already unrooted my phone. I tried even SRS Root, it says that my device has no root. But the issues were still there. I tried to create new file from my sd card so I was expecting it will not work because of that Kitkat sd card restriction stuff but it worked. I tried to update my firmware but the phone didn't allow me because it was modified. So reinstall SuperSU again, and it says SU Binary not found, like that. Now I really have no idea what to do. Please help me. Thanks and sorry for my novel like post.
AdamSanJuan said:
Hello! I am an extremely newbie in rooting so this is my issue. I just rooted my S4 I9505XXUGNH8. I used odin and the root file from chainfire. It passed. So I thought there' s no problem but after 5 hours or so, when I lock my phone it restarts. Plus my bluetooth won't turn on. So I saw this option in SuperSU that I presumed will unroot my phone. I clicked it and say yes. I restarted my phone, the said app was not there anymore. Checked root checker and it says no proper root access or something like that so I thought I already unrooted my phone. I tried even SRS Root, it says that my device has no root. But the issues were still there. I tried to create new file from my sd card so I was expecting it will not work because of that Kitkat sd card restriction stuff but it worked. I tried to update my firmware but the phone didn't allow me because it was modified. So reinstall SuperSU again, and it says SU Binary not found, like that. Now I really have no idea what to do. Please help me. Thanks and sorry for my novel like post.
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Seems like you might have used the auto root package from another firmware version as this sounds like some kernel issues. Since you know Odin works, then you can just reset and reinstall the NH8. This will get everything backup and running again (you can try not wiping, but possible issues can arise from this too - fair warning and best to backup internal storage to PC for safe keeping). As far as rooting goes afterwards, put Chainfire's SuperSU zip on your phone, find an updated custom recovery such as TWRP, Philz, or CWM and install via Odin. Once installed, you must immediately boot to recovery before the OS loads so you can use the recovery to install the zip or the stock system will rewrite the original recovery to it. Then you will be rooted with no other changes to the phone that could affect functionality or usability.
AdamSanJuan said:
Hello! I am an extremely newbie in rooting so this is my issue. I just rooted my S4 I9505XXUGNH8. I used odin and the root file from chainfire. It passed. So I thought there' s no problem but after 5 hours or so, when I lock my phone it restarts. Plus my bluetooth won't turn on. So I saw this option in SuperSU that I presumed will unroot my phone. I clicked it and say yes. I restarted my phone, the said app was not there anymore. Checked root checker and it says no proper root access or something like that so I thought I already unrooted my phone. I tried even SRS Root, it says that my device has no root. But the issues were still there. I tried to create new file from my sd card so I was expecting it will not work because of that Kitkat sd card restriction stuff but it worked. I tried to update my firmware but the phone didn't allow me because it was modified. So reinstall SuperSU again, and it says SU Binary not found, like that. Now I really have no idea what to do. Please help me. Thanks and sorry for my novel like post.
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The root for I9505XXUGNH8 is there any just one click root and don't have to use computer
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