My Sony Experience (Extended Warranty/ Insurance with ADH) - Sony Xperia Z Ultra

First of all I'm am a USA customer and this was my experience. I don't know if it would be different in other countries but I've read a few customer service horror stories from people in other countries. So let's get to it
For anyone interested or considering it I would HIGHLY recommend getting the insurance with ADH (Accidental Damage from Handling) plan through Sony. It is an option when buying the phone through the Sony store and I think even after buying the phone you have either 60 days or a full year from the date of purchase to buy the plan. Anyway here is my experience.
I received my XZU from the Sony store in mid December 2013 I decided to buy the plan with ADH because $80 seemed like a bargain to replace a $680 device. (the ADH plan covers pretty much anything). Well as fate would have it on new years eve I was working during the day and when stopping to take lunch I checked my phone and noticed the screen was cracked and there were only 2 possibilities.
1.) the screen cracked from the pressure of being in my front jeans pocket while working.
OR
2.) while carrying a ladder at work it manged to bang against the phone while it was in my pocket and broke the screen.
So naturally I called Sony and told them possibility #1 lol.
The automated line was easy to navigate through and I was talking to a rep within 5 minutes. They were very thorough and asked several question like what pocket the phone was in. What I had been doing and told them everything I could while still maintaining complete innocence . I was transferred to about 3 reps and had to tell and confirm my story several times but finally the last rep said they would send a brand new phone too my home and all I had to do was put the old phone in the box and ship it back I think I had everything taken care of and was off the phone in about 20 minutes.
They have to receive the broken device within 30 days of shipping you your replacement or you will be billed for a 2nd phone. my replacement arrived in about 4 days and was brand new. The only issue I had was when I received the new device they forgot to send a return label. So I had to call back and get a printable label emailed to me. Which took a long time (5 days) but I shipped my broken phone back and have been using the replacement for about 2 months now with no issues *knock on wood * ((I'm actually writing this thread from my perfectly function 2nd XZU )). I was surprised at how smooth the process went. I was expecting to be put through all kinds of stuff, or expecting to get a refurbished phone but no it was brand new. I don't know how they can afford to hand out high end devices for $80 but I was ecstatic and I never received a bill for a second phone so I couldn't be more pleased with the service from Sony. but I now keep a flip cover on my XZU anytime it isn't on the charger.
One thing to note is that your $80 plan only covers one replacement and you cannot buy the plan twice (I know because I tried) . so if you use the plan and get a replacement phone and then break your replacement device then you have to buy a brand new phone from Sony to buy the ADH protection plan again. So stock up on the $6 leather flip cases on eBay from China lol that's what I've done.
I hope this helps anyone thinking about buying the ADH plan. If I wouldn't have bought it I would be looking at costly repairs or $680 for a new phone after only having it about 2 weeks. So if you're still eligible for the plan go buy it Now and remember if you have to use it, when you call in play dumb and make yourself look as innocent as possible. Had I told them it was probably broke while carrying a ladder I might have been put through some sort of loophole or something.
Anyway hope this helps. And if you have any questions ask away.

Good to hear a positive customer service story, most people just want to ***** about CS and the reps that work there

I'm glad I bought the insurance. Thanks for your experience. Now I feel better about sony customer service after hearing all other stories. But like you did and what I would do to is be calm and nice and do what they say and ask.
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NuttinSpecial said:
First of all I'm am a USA customer and this was my experience. I don't know if it would be different in other countries but I've read a few customer service horror stories from people in other countries. So let's get to it
For anyone interested or considering it I would HIGHLY recommend getting the insurance with ADH (Accidental Damage from Handling) plan through Sony. It is an option when buying the phone through the Sony store and I think even after buying the phone you have either 60 days or a full year from the date of purchase to buy the plan. Anyway here is my experience.
I received my XZU from the Sony store in mid December 2013 I decided to buy the plan with ADH because $80 seemed like a bargain to replace a $680 device. (the ADH plan covers pretty much anything). Well as fate would have it on new years eve I was working during the day and when stopping to take lunch I checked my phone and noticed the screen was cracked and there were only 2 possibilities.
1.) the screen cracked from the pressure of being in my front jeans pocket while working.
OR
2.) while carrying a ladder at work it manged to bang against the phone while it was in my pocket and broke the screen.
So naturally I called Sony and told them possibility #1 lol.
The automated line was easy to navigate through and I was talking to a rep within 5 minutes. They were very thorough and asked several question like what pocket the phone was in. What I had been doing and told them everything I could while still maintaining complete innocence . I was transferred to about 3 reps and had to tell and confirm my story several times but finally the last rep said they would send a brand new phone too my home and all I had to do was put the old phone in the box and ship it back I think I had everything taken care of and was off the phone in about 20 minutes.
They have to receive the broken device within 30 days of shipping you your replacement or you will be billed for a 2nd phone. my replacement arrived in about 4 days and was brand new. The only issue I had was when I received the new device they forgot to send a return label. So I had to call back and get a printable label emailed to me. Which took a long time (5 days) but I shipped my broken phone back and have been using the replacement for about 2 months now with no issues *knock on wood * ((I'm actually writing this thread from my perfectly function 2nd XZU )). I was surprised at how smooth the process went. I was expecting to be put through all kinds of stuff, or expecting to get a refurbished phone but no it was brand new. I don't know how they can afford to hand out high end devices for $80 but I was ecstatic and I never received a bill for a second phone so I couldn't be more pleased with the service from Sony. but I now keep a flip cover on my XZU anytime it isn't on the charger.
One thing to note is that your $80 plan only covers one replacement and you cannot buy the plan twice (I know because I tried) . so if you use the plan and get a replacement phone and then break your replacement device then you have to buy a brand new phone from Sony to buy the ADH protection plan again. So stock up on the $6 leather flip cases on eBay from China lol that's what I've done.
I hope this helps anyone thinking about buying the ADH plan. If I wouldn't have bought it I would be looking at costly repairs or $680 for a new phone after only having it about 2 weeks. So if you're still eligible for the plan go buy it Now and remember if you have to use it, when you call in play dumb and make yourself look as innocent as possible. Had I told them it was probably broke while carrying a ladder I might have been put through some sort of loophole or something.
Anyway hope this helps. And if you have any questions ask away.
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We also have it here in PH., under a xperia shop handed by a telecommunication (or i think its just a partnership). the insurance is called Worry-Free Warranty it will cover up to 2 years warranty on all parts and labor and an accidental warranty in-case your too clumsy. the salesman explain to be even like the warranty is expiring next month and your still under the warranty they will replace it for a same unit OR! if the unit is unavailable they will replace it for a phone with the same price OR you can choose a higher one and just add some cash. and i was like WOAH! thank God i saw this shop. even i paid alot im worry free, BUT there is a catch. Warranty said if I rooted the device and it is still on warranty the whole warranty will be void. kinda hmm kinda sad but happy it is a mix emotion for me but yay i love my Xperia Z ultra w/ Cp12

blueether said:
Good to hear a positive customer service story, most people just want to ***** about CS and the reps that work there
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cameljockey1 said:
I'm glad I bought the insurance. Thanks for your experience. Now I feel better about sony customer service after hearing all other stories. But like you did and what I would do to is be calm and nice and do what they say and ask.
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Happy to help. I couldn't find many reviews of people's experience with ADH so with as well as my experience went I just had to post it to put people at ease. You can't beat the price for what it offers.
Yeah I am kind of a Sony fanboy. I've owned Playstations, psp, TVs, now a Vaio T that I love, and this phone is the best I've ever owned. And I'm so happy with the CS, I have yet to have an issue with Sony. And yeah as long as your polite and stick to your story they will take care of you.
Thiolo said:
We also have it here in PH., under a xperia shop handed by a telecommunication (or i think its just a partnership). the insurance is called Worry-Free Warranty it will cover up to 2 years warranty on all parts and labor and an accidental warranty in-case your too clumsy. the salesman explain to be even like the warranty is expiring next month and your still under the warranty they will replace it for a same unit OR! if the unit is unavailable they will replace it for a phone with the same price OR you can choose a higher one and just add some cash. and i was like WOAH! thank God i saw this shop. even i paid alot im worry free, BUT there is a catch. Warranty said if I rooted the device and it is still on warranty the whole warranty will be void. kinda hmm kinda sad but happy it is a mix emotion for me but yay i love my Xperia Z ultra w/ Cp12
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Yeah I think if you root or alter the phone it voids warranty. Which is why I didn't remove the ASPL on the screen with the oleophobic coating. I just put on a screen protector and it's slick as glass. And the rooting doesn't bother me. I Change the themes, wallpaper, and ringtones and that's good enough for me lol

My story is a bit different
1. I broke my phone
2. called sony same day, after about 5 mins the rep assured me all was set and id receive my phone within a week or so.
3. I called the next day just to be sure since the process went through just a but too smooth. Ofcourse when i called back some rep said, nothing is being shipped to you because you havent spoken to "us" yet. I couldnt get out of him what "us" was and who i spoke to the day before. After some time of back and forth it turned out i also needed to give me CC#, which i did and they assured me the device would be sent soon.
4. Called back 3 days later, they said its being processed.
5. Called back next week, said its still being processed
6. Called back a few days later, still being processed.
7. Back on the 14th day, exactly two weeks later, they assured me the phone would be shipped out next day.
8. !!!! it was, i got it 1 day later!
9. No return label
10. called about return label, they said they would email it
11. called a few days later, they said it would be emailed
12. called a few days later gave them another email as well ....
13. Now its been about 2.5 weeks since i got the replacement phone and they still have not sent or emailed me anything about a shipping label.
All i care is they dont charge me for the replacement. If they do i am going to make a charge back.
All i want to do is send back the old phone and they will not send me a label.
so that has been my experience so far...

What if Z1 Compact was bought on eBay?
If I purchased my phone brand new/sealed on eBay and then buy ADH plan from sony.com, will the support department still honor the warranty in case something goes wrong with the device?
Thanks!

Hi, I just got off the phone with Sony. They got my credit card info, etc and told me that it needs processing and takes about 4-5 business days until I receive a confirmation e-mail from them. Did you have to go through this?
Thanks!!

Mine was replaced via warranty, late last year. Bought off eBay, used via WiFi for a few weeks. Something caused me to call ? Sony, so they e-mailed ? a free shipping label ? , FedEx picked up for free as well. Total turnaround was EXACTLY one week, in which they shipped me my current device , BRAND NEW . A first in my years experience with Sony, was shocked ? and surprised. Now running ? JB since yesterday . Cannot complain, a few things I would have kept that are no longer available . Just have to go through another learning ⤵ curve , no biggie .
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Sony "Protection Plus" - one time repair??
I purchased a "Sony 2 Yr Protection Plan w/ADH" when I bought my phone, about 14 months ago. Now, it has developed a digitizer problem (large dead spot) that requires repair. Contract details if anyone wants to read them:
We would like to thank you for purchasing a Sony Protection PLUS plan. A contract is now in place, and registration has been completed based on the information shown above for your extended service plan coverage.
Below we have included the contract information and the Terms and Conditions, which will provide you with detailed information about your Extended Service Plan coverage.
Confirmation Number: 000XX000XXXXX00X0000X0X000XXXXXX000X00X
Model Number: SNYUSAssignments
Extended Service Plan SKU: PPSMP2A03
Extended Service Plan Description: 2 Yr Protection Plan w/ADH
Plan start date: 10/07/2014
Plan end date: 10/07/2016
If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us at 1-855-766-9777, Monday – Friday, 5:00 a.m. – 9:00 p.m. PT, Saturday – Sunday, 6:00 a.m. – 5:00 p.m. PT.
Thank you once again for your purchase, and we hope you have a wonderful experience with your product and the Protection PLUS Plan.
Sincerely,
The Sony Protection PLUS Team
Protection PLUS Service Plan + Accidental Damage
[ESC - SONY CONSUMER ELECTRONICS PROTECTION PLAN]
1. The Contract.
These Terms and Conditions govern the hardware service and/or replacement service provided to you for the Sony branded product (“Product”) listed on your proof of purchase (“Proof of Purchase”). Your “Contract” includes these Terms and Conditions and your Proof of Purchase. The provider contractually obligated to you under the terms of this Contract (“Provider”) is Federal Warranty Service Corporation, [P.O. Box 105689, Atlanta, GA 30348-5689], [1-877-881-8578] in all states except in Florida, where the Provider is United Service Protection, Inc., [11222 Quail Roost Drive, Miami, FL 33157], [1-877-881-8578]; and in Oklahoma, where the Provider is Assurant Service Protection, Inc. [P.O. Box 105689, Atlanta, GA 30348-5689], [1-866-266-9459]. Although Sony Electronics, Inc., [16530 Via Esprillo, Bld 1 San Diego, CA 92127] (“Sony”) is not the Provider, and this Contract is between you and the Provider, Sony is the administrator of this Contract and when you need service you should call Sony at [1-855-766-9777]. This Contract is not related to nor an extension of your manufacturer’s warranty, and instead includes only these Terms and Conditions and Proof of Purchase. This Contract is not a contract of insurance. Unless otherwise regulated under state law, the contents of this Contract should be interpreted and understood within the meaning of a "Service Contract" in Public Law #93-637.
2. What is Covered.
The available coverages are listed below. The coverage you purchased will be indicated on your Proof of Purchase.
2.1. Hardware Coverage
This Contract provides coverage for Product hardware failures due to defects in workmanship and/or materials, including power surge while properly connected to a surge protector. You may be asked to provide your surge protector for examination to validate a claim. Your Contract may provide for repairs or, depending on the Product, replacement coverage only. For PC customers, this Contract provides for one replacement of a factory installed rechargeable battery over the life of the Contract. Sony may use non-original manufacturer parts or re-manufactured parts for the repair.
2.2. Accidental Damage
You may also purchase optional coverage for failures due to accidental damage from handling (“ADH”), such as drops or spills that arise from normal handling and use of the Product. ADH coverage only applies to operational or mechanical failure caused by an accident from handling that is the result of an unexpected or unintentional external event that arises from your normal daily usage. If the Product is replaced, all obligations owed under this Contract will have been satisfied.
ADH coverage does not protect you in the cases of (a) theft, loss, misplacement, war, terrorism, fire, abuse, a willful or intentional act, (b) alteration or modification of the Product in any way, (c) damage caused by failure to perform manufacturer’s recommended operating instructions/standards or recommended maintenance, (d) cosmetic damage (e.g., scratches or dents) that does not prevent the proper functionality or use of the Product.
3. If You Need Service
If you need service during the Coverage Term, Sony will either (a) repair the defect, or failure due to ADH, using new or refurbished parts, (b) exchange the Product as a repair solution with an authorized replacement Product that may be new or refurbished, of like quality and functionality (c) replace the Product with an authorized replacement Product that may be new or refurbished, of like kind, quality and functionality not to exceed the purchase price of the Product; or (d) provide you with an amount equal to the purchase price of the Product less any sales tax, shipping, and service claims previously paid. Sony will try to match specific replacement preferences such as equipment color, cosmetics, or features, but this is not guaranteed.
If your Product is un-repairable and Sony replaces your Product, upon receipt of your Product by Sony, the replacement Product will be shipped to you. When you receive the replacement Product, the originally covered Product will become Sony ‘s property. If the Product is un-repairable and Sony replaces the Product all obligations owed under this Contract will have been satisfied.
If your Product is repairable and Sony exchanges your Product as a repair solution, upon receipt of your Product, the exchange Product will be shipped to you. When you receive the exchange Product, the originally covered Product will become Sony’s property. If the Product is repairable but Sony chooses to exchange the Product as a repair solution, this Contract will continue to provide coverage on the exchange Product for the remainder of your Contract coverage.
In the event that you are provided a replacement Product prior to your return of the originally covered Product, a hold on your credit card for an unrecovered equipment fee will be required (“Unrecovered Equipment Fee”). If you do not return your Product within 15 days after receipt of your replacement Product, the Unrecovered Equipment Fee will be processed. Upon timely receipt by Sony of your Product, the hold will be removed. If you do not provide a credit card authorization for the Unrecovered Equipment Fee, you will be shipped a box with a pre-paid postage label to deliver your original Product prior to providing a replacement Product.
If your Product fails three (3) times due to the same part failure, upon the fourth service request for the same part failure, Sony will replace the failed Product with an authorized replacement Product, which may be new or refurbished, of like kind, quality and functionality not to exceed the original retail purchase price of the Product. Replacement of the Product will satisfy all obligations owed under this Contract.
4. How to Get Service.
Call Sony at [1-855-766-9777] Monday to Friday, 5:00 a.m.–9:00 p.m. PST, Saturday and Sunday, 6:00 a.m.–5:00 p.m. PST. All service will be provided by Sony or Sony’s authorized service providers. If you purchased on-site service, but due to special circumstances (such as environmental or technical requirements, if your Product has failed due to ADH, repairs cannot be made on-site, or you are located more than fifty (50) miles from an authorized service provider), this Contract will cover the shipping cost of your Product to an authorized service provider. Sony will inspect the Product and validate that the reported failure is covered under this Contract. If the failure is not covered, you will be responsible for covering the cost of repair at that time or the Product will be returned to you.
5. Coverage Term.
Coverage may begin either on the date of Product purchase or the date of Product shipment (if purchased online) and will end after the expiration of the term listed on your Proof of Purchase (“Coverage Term”). This Contract provides benefits during and in addition to Sony’s manufacturer limited warranty; it does not replace Sony’s manufacturer limited warranty, but provides certain additional benefits during the term of the Sony manufacturer limited warranty. There is no obligation to renew this Contract.
6. Your Responsibilities.
To receive service under the Contract, you agree to:
A. have your Contract number and Proof of Purchase available if requested;
B. provide information about the symptoms and causes of any issues with the Product;
C. respond to requests for information such as Product serial number, model number, any peripheral devices connected or installed on the Product, any error messages displayed, actions taken before the Product experienced the issue and steps taken to resolve the issue;
D. maintain the Product in accordance with the service requirements from Sony under ts manufacturer limited warranty, including care and operating instructions/standards or recommended maintenance provided in the user guide;
E. protect the Product from further damage and operate the Product in accordance with the instructions/standards listed in the user’s guide;
F. back up your data and software before services are performed and remove any and all sensitive data from the Product prior to service. Sony is not responsible for any loss of your data under any circumstances. The contents of your Product may be deleted and the hard drive and/or storage media reformatted in the course of service. All Product settings will be returned to the original Sony default settings. All Product firmware (if applicable) will be updated to the latest official Sony version at the time of service.
G. make your Product accessible to the authorized service provider if your Product is installed within custom cabinetry or in a custom unit;
H. provide a non-threatening and safe environment to the call agent and the authorized service provider and ensure the presence of an adult at the time of scheduled on-site service, and reasonably allow the authorized servicer to perform the appropriate service;
I. provide notice of any defect or deficiency in service within ninety (90) days of discovery;
J. notify Sony if your address changes.
7. Cancellation.
You may cancel this Contract at the location of purchase. If you cancel within the first sixty (60) days of purchase, you will be refunded the full Contract price, less the cost of any repairs made, except as otherwise required by law. If you cancel your Contract after sixty (60) days from the date of purchase, you will receive a pro-rata refund. The effective date of cancellation is the date Sony receives your request for cancellation. We reserve the right to cancel this Contract at any time in the event of fraud or material misrepresentation by you. If we cancel this Contract, you will be provided with a written notice at least thirty (30) days prior to cancellation at your last known address, with the effective date for the cancellation and the reason for cancellation. You will receive a refund of the unearned pro-rata Contract price, less any claims paid, except as otherwise required by law.
8. What is Not Covered.
This Contract does not cover:
A. coverage, components, or products unless sold under a single SKU or “built-to-order,” TV stands or wall mounts, de-installation or re-installation of wall mounted TVs and other products, or inaccessible products;
B. consumable items such as non-factory-installed batteries, printer cartridges, bulbs, screen protectors, accessory cables, removable data storage devices;
C. any repair covered by Sony’s manufacturer’s limited warranty repairs noted in service bulletins and offered by Sony free of charge, repairs initiated by Sony under the manufacturer’s limited warranty or under a recall program, costs associated with Sony’s recommended normal maintenance under the manufacturer’s limited warranty;
D. unauthorized repairs;
E. failures of components such as cabinets, frames, masks, finish defects, glass windows, scratched lenses, cases, bags, accessories purchased with the Product, docking stations;
F. damage or failures caused by conditions beyond our control such as wiring, power supply, rust, corrosion, infestation, negligence, modifications, abuse, misuse, acts of God, power surge where no surge protector was in use, failure to follow Sony’s recommended maintenance, improper installation, non-factory-installed batteries, problems with phone lines;
G. defects that existed prior to this Contract purchase;
H. loss or damage to recording media, software or data, computer viruses, software defects or software-generated problems, software added by you that is not original to the Product;
I. shipping damage to Products by the shipper or resulting from inadequate packaging by you;
J. theft;
K. monitor or screen imperfections, including image burn-in, minor pixel issues that do not affect the overall viewing of the panel;
L. accidental or intentional damage, cracked or damaged monitor, laptop or display screens (except for covered repairs due to ADH if purchased by you);
M. intentional, consequential or incidental damage or gross neglect, including abusive or willful mishandling;
N. data stored on disk drives or other memory devices;
O. normal wear and tear, loss, war, terrorism, or misplacement
P. cleaning of your Product (internal and external);
Q. shipping cost of any Product located outside of the United States of America and U.S. Territories.
9. Contract Transfer.
You can assign your Contract to another person by contacting Sony.
10. Arbitration.
Read the following Arbitration provision carefully. It limits certain of your rights, including your right to obtain relief or damages through court action.
Should a dispute arise related to this Contract or the coverage of your Product pursuant to this Contract, you agree that such dispute shall be decided via binding Arbitration. To begin Arbitration, either you or we must make a written demand to the other party for Arbitration. The Arbitration will take place before a single arbitrator. It will be administered in keeping with the Expedited Procedures of the Commercial Arbitration Rules ("Rules") of the American Arbitration Association ("AAA") in effect when the claim is filed. You may get a copy of these AAA's Rules by contacting AAA at 1633 Broadway, 10th Floor, New York, NY 10019, calling (800) 778-7879 or visiting www.adr.org. The filing fees to begin and carry out Arbitration will be shared equally between you and us. This does not prohibit the arbitrator from giving the winning party their fees and expenses of the Arbitration. Unless you and we agree, the Arbitration will take place in the county and state where you live. The Federal Arbitration Act, 9 U.S.C. § 1, et seq., will govern and not any state law on Arbitration. YOU AGREE AND UNDERSTAND THAT this Arbitration provision means that you give up your right to go to court on any claim covered by this provision. You also agree that any Arbitration proceeding will only consider your claims. Claims by, or on behalf of, other individuals will not be arbitrated in any proceeding that is considering your claims. Please refer to the State Disclosures section of this Contract for any added requirements in your state. In the event this Arbitration provision is not approved by the appropriate state regulatory agency, and/or is stricken, severed, or otherwise deemed unenforceable by a court of competent jurisdiction, you and we specifically agree to waive and forever give up the right to a trial by jury. Instead, in the event any litigation arises between you and us, any such lawsuit will be tried before a judge, and a jury will not be impaneled or struck.
YOU AND WE UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT, BECAUSE OF THIS PROVISION, NEITHER YOU NOR WE WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO TO COURT EXCEPT AS PROVIDED ABOVE OR TO HAVE A JURY TRIAL OR TO PARTICIPATE AS ANY MEMBER OF A CLASS OF CLAIMANTS PERTAINING TO ANY CLAIM.
The problem is that Sony is telling me verbally that I get "one bite at the apple" for a claim. In other words, my warranty expires upon their one-time fix to this problem.
I sure don't see that in the terms. Has anyone else had that experience? Thank you.

I see that the OP noted the one-and-done policy for replacement (overlooked that part on my first read). However, it still doesn't make sense to me and the contract, terms posted above, doesn't say that in words I comprehend.
If I have this device repaired, instead of replaced, well the coverage continue for the full 24 months?

Related

[Q] BestBuy Geek Squad Black Tie Protection

People that bought their tablet at BestBuy are u opting into getting the Black tie protection plan?​
I bought the 32gb 10.1 tablet and they stated that the prices are:
1yr- $110
2yr- $170
3yr- $249
Tech support with accidental damage coverage.
You also get half off the buy back program if u purchase the above.
$25 instead of $50
Also share yoru thoughts on why or why u didnt purchase.
You can add the service when u purchase or within the 14 day return window (just have to bring device in for them to confirm all is ok)
Have you comparison shopped at squartrade.com first of all?
Personally I never buy warranties. I guess I'm just careful with my stuff. Simple as that.
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Squaretrade price for this tablet including accidental damage (water, screen breaking, etc) for 2 years is 69.99 with a $30 off code of thirty30.
If you're afraid of breaking your screen or whatever, this is the way to go. No deductible.
As per an article in PC World magazine, July issue I beleive, Best Buy will not cover you if the "accidental damage" occurs if you leave it on the roof of your car, drive off, then it falls under the wheel and then you run it over but Squaretrade will. So if you get BB don't tell them your car ran over it. BB only covers damage if damaged while under "normal use."
I just got out from under my rock ... this is the first i am hearing about squaretrade.com
ya i checked it out and it would be 69.99 for a year
i guess if anything is wrong u would have to mail the unit to them ... maybe even pay for return shipping ...?
i have to read more about it ... u can add this service at anytime?
how do they know if the tablet is not already broken when u add service .. u have to send in receipt?
this is definitely cheaper then bestbuy ... having spent 600 i feel u need some type of protection
Here's the terms of the accidental damage coverage:
"If your warranty is bought on the same day as your item, then ADH coverage begins immediately, otherwise ADH coverage begins 30 days after purchase, and does not cover willful damage, negligent use, theft or loss. A $50 deductible applies on ADH-related claims for Cell Phones only. SquareTrade has waived the deductible for all other ADH claims. ADH is not available on all items. "
iTouch24 said:
I just got out from under my rock ... this is the first i am hearing about squaretrade.com
ya i checked it out and it would be 69.99 for a year
i guess if anything is wrong u would have to mail the unit to them ... maybe even pay for return shipping ...?
i have to read more about it ... u can add this service at anytime?
how do they know if the tablet is not already broken when u add service .. u have to send in receipt?
this is definitely cheaper then bestbuy ... having spent 600 i feel u need some type of protection
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That $69.99 was for 2 years not 1.
If you are simply having a "problem" with it you have to send it back. They send a prepaid label. Usually they just send you a refund for the entire device rather than fix it.
My wife had a B&N Nook Color and she dropped it in the bathtub while reading a book. After shaking the goldfish out of it and baking it in a container full of rice it was still dead so I filed a claim online with S.T. the next morning. 2 hours later I had a return label and 8 hours after that I was paid in full for the Nook. EVEN BEFORE I RETURNED IT TO THEM. Was quite surprised.
One difference between BB and ST: With ST if they pay you for the device if it is damaged or dies that's it, your "2 year" coverage is over. You get your check and you're done. If you replace the device you must buy the coverage again. With BB they just give you a new one and your overpriced coverage continues for the term of your policy.
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That $69.99 was for 2 years not 1.
If you are simply having a "problem" with it you have to send it back. They send a prepaid label. Usually they just send you a refund for the entire device rather than fix it.
My wife had a B&N Nook Color and she dropped it in the bathtub while reading a book. After shaking the goldfish out of it and baking it in a container full of rice it was still dead so I filed a claim online with S.T. the next morning. 2 hours later I had a return label and 8 hours after that I was paid in full for the Nook. EVEN BEFORE I RETURNED IT TO THEM. Was quite surprised.
One difference between BB and ST: With ST if they pay you for the device if it is damaged or dies that's it, your "2 year" coverage is over. You get your check and you're done. If you replace the device you must buy the coverage again. With BB they just give you a new one and your overpriced coverage continues for the term of your policy.
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thanks for clarifying and suggesting this service to me. I am definitely going to go this route then.
they explained it to me that if your coverage is 600 and u send in for a repair and they note that is cost 100 to repair and then next month u drop it in the fish tank .. they only give u back your remaining balance ... $500 ...
so that is really the main difference between this and BB
u can bring in to best buy every week for repairs and replacements and with ST u only have a $600 spending limit. so if each repair cost $100 .. u can only get it fixed 6 times in the 2 years ... so the coverage is either $600 or 2 years .. whatever comes first ... like car warranties .... 100k miles or 10 years
I never buy extended warranties...for 2 main reasons:
1) They're largely a scam and the store gets a large portion of the price they charge for them (which is why they instantly discount them the second you decline).
2) I'm fairly persistent and persuasive when it comes to getting companies to stand behind their product. I've gotten Nissan, Samsung, and others to pay for repairs of products that were out of warranty. And I'm with LordLugard...I take good care of my stuff.
Definitely stay away from any Best Buy warranty policy, way too overpriced! They tried selling me one and I just laughed when I heard their prices. Sqaretrade is where its at, thats where I bought mine from. Also, setting up your warranty is super easy. For example, I ordered my tab through Amazon and all I did was forward squaretrade my invoice and that was all they needed, couldnt have been any easier. And you never know when you might accidentally get bumped into and whoops, there goes your shattered $600 tablet.
Dont waste your money at bestbuy. If you want a protection plan get one from square trade.
Best Buys plan is so much more expensive because its actually TWO companies involved. Best Buy and AIG insurance.
Check out worthavegroup.com thats where I bought my tablet insurance.
Ok, so I have a question about SquareTrade.
I put a quote for my 16GB model and it is $54.99 for two years or $38.49 with the 30% off code. However, if I look that only covers 100% parts/labor, etc. It looks like accidental damage is an additional $45.
Those of you that are saying $69.99 does that include the accidental addition? I have never used squaretrade before (just heard of it recently), so those that have, what does the normal warranty cover?
Any additional information is greatly appreciated.
Nevermind. I just looked at the other picture posted earlier and the accidental was on there.
But, if anyone still wants to expand on my questions minus the cost, that would be great
http://www.squaretrade.com/pages/learn-more-warranty-buyer
also, as you read this page, click "see details". Looks like mostly parts failure, and labor cost which I assume is covered by Samsung for 1 year, but you can use this for up to two years.
Honestly I'm thinking I'll get this mainly for the accidental damage. I would be devastated if I broke my screen lol.
This is incorrect. If your device gets replaced through best buys protection plan, coverage is over and you would have to repurchase the plan for the replaced device.
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This is incorrect. If your device gets replaced through best buys protection plan, coverage is over and you would have to repurchase the plan for the replaced device.
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You are correct.
I bought and Ipad 1in january with the black tie protection accidental coverage($109.00). My screen got cracked today and I took it to best buy. Within 30 seconds of getting there, thw geek squad kid told me he would give ma a new one to replace it. He then went on to say that they dont have anymore ipad 1. That I would get an Ipad2.
I asked him if I could get a galaxy tab 10.1. He said no, but that I could take the ipad 2 and come back to exchange it. That's what I did and now I have a Samsung galaxy tab 10.1.
In summary, Im a believer of the protection program. I bought an ipad in january and now I have A GALAXY TAB 10.1
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That $69.99 was for 2 years not 1.
If you are simply having a "problem" with it you have to send it back. They send a prepaid label. Usually they just send you a refund for the entire device rather than fix it.
My wife had a B&N Nook Color and she dropped it in the bathtub while reading a book. After shaking the goldfish out of it and baking it in a container full of rice it was still dead so I filed a claim online with S.T. the next morning. 2 hours later I had a return label and 8 hours after that I was paid in full for the Nook. EVEN BEFORE I RETURNED IT TO THEM. Was quite surprised.
One difference between BB and ST: With ST if they pay you for the device if it is damaged or dies that's it, your "2 year" coverage is over. You get your check and you're done. If you replace the device you must buy the coverage again. With BB they just give you a new one and your overpriced coverage continues for the term of your policy.
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ollie6286 said:
This is incorrect. If your device gets replaced through best buys protection plan, coverage is over and you would have to repurchase the plan for the replaced device.
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This is correct. I work for Best Buy and I can tell you this is how our GSBTP plan works.
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I never buy extended warranties...for 2 main reasons:
1) They're largely a scam and the store gets a large portion of the price they charge for them (which is why they instantly discount them the second you decline).
2) I'm fairly persistent and persuasive when it comes to getting companies to stand behind their product. I've gotten Nissan, Samsung, and others to pay for repairs of products that were out of warranty. And I'm with LordLugard...I take good care of my stuff.
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I agree and disagree with you. As an employee, I don't see them as a scam at all. I do think that they are pricey for a regular customer (considering what we pay for them). We also won't (well, shouldn't per our policy) discount them just because you decline at first. That doesn't happen at our store.
To your second point, I don't see any company repairing something for free that you physically damaged. Best Buy won't do it without a GSBTP plan with ADH (you can get them without it) and I've never seen a manufacturer do it either.
This doesn't feel like it was a serious poll.

Protection plan available now with Sprint

I just noticed when online that Sprint now offers a protection plan for the View similar to the ones offered on the phones. The cost is $13 a month. According to the message they sent me it doesn't matter when you bought the View as long as you sign up for it this month you are eligible.
Yes, although I thought it was $17 a month as I added it when I was on the phone with Retention a few days ago. Although I could be wrong in the pricing as I have gotten wrong answers from retention. I had a rep tell me that the View has a standard MicroUSB port even though it doesn't. I know the port will accept a standard MicroUSB connector and it will work to charge and may even work to access data, HTC Support advised asgainst using anything but the included USB cable.
You might check and make sure they didn't charge you wrong. Online it says it is $13 a month. At least they are offering something now.
So what is the consensus? Should we get it?I can't decide whether to get the one through Sprint or one through Sqaretrade. Any thoughts?
If all you want is device repair/replacement, call in and ask for the $10 a month plan. Instead of Total Equipment Protection it's called, "Assurant Device Insurance". It isn't available online. I had to seriously complain about being stuck with the "extra features", and refuse repeated pushes to stick with the $13 plan before they even admitted the cheaper one existed.
The attached file is the official Sprint .PDF with the details of the three programs available. (Zipped due to upload size limit.)
Here's the PR release detailing all the "extra features" $13 a month gets you! Among other things, THREE WHOLE MONTHS OF CREDIT MONITORING! Wow, I just don't know what to say Sprint, I really don't.
www.Sprint.com said:
OVERLAND PARK, Kan. (BUSINESS WIRE), July 26, 2011 - Sprint (NYSE: S) has launched a custom protection plan available to customers with netbooks, notebooks and tablets. The Assurant Advanced Protection Pack provides repair or replacement in the event a device suffers mechanical or electrical breakdown or is accidentally damaged, lost or stolen.
The Assurant Advanced Protection Pack, costs $13 per month* and includes features to help customers safeguard their devices. These features include a tool to locate a lost device, dedicated technical support with remote login, virus defense, data back-up of contacts, photos and media, and three months of credit monitoring if the device is lost or stolen.
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tedya said:
So what is the consensus? Should we get it?I can't decide whether to get the one through Sprint or one through Sqaretrade. Any thoughts?
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Squaretrade probably makes more financial sense, but I like knowing that I can pop over to the local (non-corporate) authorized repair center for repair/replacement. It's just easier to express strong feelings in person (well, until they call the cops or make a grab for the gun under the counter....) when you are frustrated by poor service or unreasonable delays...
I'm surprised the deductible is still just $100, given how expensive the Flyer is. A lost/stolen View without Sprint service is just a Flyer in disguise....
I will need to call Sprint and get this corrected ASAP as I don't need that extra garbage either.
I assume there's an app, same as the one available for the phones. Has anyone found a link to download it?
Called Sprint this afternoon and got it done. Now, I just wish Sprint would come out with a plan that wouldn't cost me, literally $59 a month more, while taking away 500 of my anytime minutes just to get a new PDA Phone. I have been with Sprint so long and my plan is so old that if I want to upgrade my Touch Pro 2 to something new, I need to change from my current plan which gives me 2000 anytime minutes, unlimited mobile to mobile, unlimited nights and weekends starting at 8PM and unlimited Data for $10 per line. They don't seem to understand that I am so disenchanted with them that I would sooner pay more to their competition then give them another lousy dime.

Staples Protection Plan for the Nexus 10

I'm looking at getting the Nexus 10 here pretty soon (possibly next paycheck) but I would very much like to play with it first. The idiots at Walmart can never give me a consistent answer if they have them or not and whenever I show up they have no idea what I'm talking about. So I called Staples and the guy said he's getting them in next week and sounded about as excited as I am (hooray for Techies!).
So I asked him about the protection plan and he said it is $84 for accidental damage coverage but he literally said that they cannot refuse me wanting a replacement or a gift card for compensation for any reason. He said it's basically in the terms of service that if I bring the tablet in and want a replacement (not like a 14-day refund/replacement though, but within a year) that they will replace it on the spot no questions asked. He even said basically "and when the new one comes out like a year from now you can bring it in and get a gift card for it and get the new one no problems."
That sounds amazing. That's like future-proofing my tablet for an extra 84 bucks. Anybody out there get one from Staples? And did you get the protection plan? Is it really how he described it? It almost sounds too good to be true but he sounded confident in it.
What do y'all think?
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I'm looking at getting the Nexus 10 here pretty soon (possibly next paycheck) but I would very much like to play with it first. The idiots at Walmart can never give me a consistent answer if they have them or not and whenever I show up they have no idea what I'm talking about. So I called Staples and the guy said he's getting them in next week and sounded about as excited as I am (hooray for Techies!).
So I asked him about the protection plan and he said it is $84 for accidental damage coverage but he literally said that they cannot refuse me wanting a replacement or a gift card for compensation for any reason. He said it's basically in the terms of service that if I bring the tablet in and want a replacement (not like a 14-day refund/replacement though, but within a year) that they will replace it on the spot no questions asked. He even said basically "and when the new one comes out like a year from now you can bring it in and get a gift card for it and get the new one no problems."
That sounds amazing. That's like future-proofing my tablet for an extra 84 bucks. Anybody out there get one from Staples? And did you get the protection plan? Is it really how he described it? It almost sounds too good to be true but he sounded confident in it.
What do y'all think?
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What you wrote does not agree with this:
http://www.staples.com/sbd/cre/programs/serviceplans/
While I am not sure it is needed, I got an extended warranty from Squaretrade for $60 after a 40% discount.
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I'd read the fine print for yourself and make sure the guy isn't just trying to sell you a "warranty". I bought my Nexus at Walmart and initially bought the $44 protection plan. After getting home and actually reading it (I was too excited at the time that they actually had an N10 in stock) I went back to get a refund for it and they actually did it. Seems all it provided was a repair service.
If the Staples protection plan is what the guy explained, sounds like a good deal.
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What you wrote does not agree with this:
http://www.staples.com/sbd/cre/programs/serviceplans/
While I am not sure it is needed, I got an extended warranty from Squaretrade for $60 after a 40% discount.
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How did you get the 40% discount?
CaliLove310 said:
How did you get the 40% discount?
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At the time, and perhaps still the case- discount coupons were being sold on Ebay for $1-$2. Also, if you "Like" Squaretrade on FB- they may still offer a discount- but then you risk upsetting your friends who may be hit with their ads.
Worth Avenue offers competitive prices as well. As indicated, one could make the case that these warranties are a waste of money- factoring in the cost of used devices as replacements in the second coverage year, existing manufacturer coverage- as well as any deductibles.
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The way the warranty works at staples. You have 15 days with Staples from time of purchase to exchange or return your Nexus 10. After this you have the one year warranty with Samsung. If you purchase the protection plan with staples within 15 days of purchase of the Nexus 10 then this warranty begins when Samsungs ends.
If in the one year of protection under Staples after Samsungs warranty is up and you have a problem then you call the 1-800 number on the brochure they give you when you purchase your warranty. When you call them, you tell them it doesn't work (don't ask about repairt). Then will either Email or your send you the full purchase price(excluding tax) in form of a gift card to be used at Staples. You can take this gift card and purchase whatever at Staples even you if don't purchase another tablet.
The most important part of the protection plan is registering right after purchase. Call the number or go to the website listed and register the protection plan. Take the register and put in your Nexus 10 box and keep both for two years.
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The way the warranty works at staples. You have 15 days with Staples from time of purchase to exchange or return your Nexus 10. After this you have the one year warranty with Samsung. If you purchase the protection plan with staples within 15 days of purchase of the Nexus 10 then this warranty begins when Samsungs ends.
If in the one year of protection under Staples after Samsungs warranty is up and you have a problem then you call the 1-800 number on the brochure they give you when you purchase your warranty. When you call them, you tell them it doesn't work (don't ask about repairt). Then will either Email or your send you the full purchase price(excluding tax) in form of a gift card to be used at Staples. You can take this gift card and purchase whatever at Staples even you if don't purchase another tablet.
The most important part of the protection plan is registering right after purchase. Call the number or go to the website listed and register the protection plan. Take the register and put in your Nexus 10 box and keep both for two years.
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Ugh. Is this seriously how it works? That sucks. So I want the one that covers accidental damage (if it were to crack or something) but would that not kick in til one year after I have the tablet? If this is seriously how the plan works then that's dumb.
TBH I'm probably only going to have the tablet for a year and then get a newer model. Maayyybbeee longer.
Even the accidental one doesn't kick in til after samsung ends. So basically you can upgrade your tablet after one year.
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I'd read the fine print for yourself and make sure the guy isn't just trying to sell you a "warranty". I bought my Nexus at Walmart and initially bought the $44 protection plan. After getting home and actually reading it (I was too excited at the time that they actually had an N10 in stock) I went back to get a refund for it and they actually did it. Seems all it provided was a repair service.
If the Staples protection plan is what the guy explained, sounds like a good deal.
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I bought my Nexus 10 at Walmart specifically for the $44 protection plan. (I haven't picked it up yet - it's at a far-away Walmart. I'll get it on Sunday.) I thought it looked like a good deal - about the same terms as Square Trade, but for less than half the price. What's wrong with it? If the screen cracks or I spill tea on it, they will fix or replace it for me. And I don't have to deal with Samsung, even during the manufacturer's warranty period, which I've heard is unfun. Seems pretty good to me.
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I bought my Nexus 10 at Walmart specifically for the $44 protection plan. (I haven't picked it up yet - it's at a far-away Walmart. I'll get it on Sunday.) I thought it looked like a good deal - about the same terms as Square Trade, but for less than half the price. What's wrong with it? If the screen cracks or I spill tea on it, they will fix or replace it for me. And I don't have to deal with Samsung, even during the manufacturer's warranty period, which I've heard is unfun. Seems pretty good to me.
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I think what everyone is talking about is that the protection plan is "good" but it doesn't kick in apparently til after the first year of having the tablet because there is already a year warranty from Samsung. If that's right though then it seems stupid because what happens if you crack your tablet before the year is up? Seems counter-intuitive
I have purchased the staples warranty on two items. One being a $200 chair which I called over a year later and they told me to toss it and sent me a gift card for $200. Used it to buy a canon digital camera. I tried claiming warranty on it but they asked what was wrong with it and to send it in for repairs. There was nothing wrong so I didn't send it in, just thought maybe they would send me a new gift card which they didn't. I'm not sure if I was under canon warranty at the time or not. Staples is suppose to get a shipment of N10s tomorrow and I may get the warranty with it since I have had success with it before with the chair.
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I think what everyone is talking about is that the protection plan is "good" but it doesn't kick in apparently til after the first year of having the tablet because there is already a year warranty from Samsung. If that's right though then it seems stupid because what happens if you crack your tablet before the year is up? Seems counter-intuitive
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Actually, this is incorrect. It takes effect from the moment you buy the plan, and you can only buy the plan within 30 days of buying the tablet. I bought it the same day. Here's the description (copied and pasted):
http://www.walmart.com/ip/2-Year-Dr...lan-for-Tablets-and-iPads-400-499.99/21556980
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2 Year Drop, Spill and Cracked Screen Service Plan for Tablets and iPads $400 - $499.99
Get long-term peace of mind for your Tablet with a Product Care Plan. If your product has a covered failure during the Plan's term, we'll repair or replace it. We cover 100% of the repair costs. There are no deductibles or hidden fees.
2 years of protection for your Tablet begins the moment you purchase your Plan.
We enhance and extend the manufacturer's warranty.*
Our Product Care Plan provides more coverage than the manufacturer's warranty, such as failures due to:
•Accidental Damage from Handling, such as spills, drops and cracked screens
•Power surges
•Defects in materials and workmanship
•Mechanical or electrical failures, including those due to normal wear and tear
•Internal heat, dust and humidity
This plan provides 2 years of coverage from the date of purchase.
Learn more about our Product Care Plans
Your Product Care Plan also includes:
3-day Service Guaranteed, or your money back.
If your product has a covered failure, we'll repair it within 3 days of receiving it. See the "Learn more about our Product Care Plans" link above for more details.
Transferable Coverage. If you sell your product or give it to someone as a gift, your Product Care Plan and all of its benefits are fully transferable to the new owner, so it maintains its value.
Accidents happen. Take comfort knowing that your purchase is protected from accidental drops, spills and cracked screens from day one.
How the plan works:
•Add the Product Care Plan to your shopping cart.
•Your product is covered the moment you complete your purchase.
•Within two business days, you will receive an email with Plan details.
•If you need to make a claim, call us 24 / 7 / 365 at 1-877-968-6391. Just have your order confirmation emails handy when you call.
Important information:
•Products need to be purchased from either Walmart.com or a Walmart store.
•You can purchase this Product Care Plan for any eligible product up to 30 days after purchase, as long as you have the original Walmart product receipt.
•We may fulfill your claim by providing you with a new, remanufactured or refurbished product with similar features and functionality, or a Walmart Gift Card for the original purchase price of the product (including taxes).
*Limitations and exclusions apply. See Terms and Conditions for complete program details.
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Extended Warranty / Protection for Lumia 920

The Lumia 920, which I bought at Microsoft store back in February of this year, stopped charging via wireless. I took it to the Microsoft store to see what can be done (expecting Apple like treatment) and the store manager gave me 2 options:
1. To have the phone sent to Nokia for repairs - the warranty center will check the phone and let me know if the repair is within warranty.
2. Exchange the phone for a new one, but only if I buy a 2 years extended warranty for $99. He said he will wave the $50 replacement fee this time only.
I did go with option #2 and walked away with the new phone. The problem is that the new phone has a headphones jack issue - the sound only plays from the right headphone. I suspect if i take the phone back it will be exchanged for a new one outside of extended warranty.
So my question is: Did I make a mistake for buying the extended warranty? I have a feeling that this phone will be out of date (and possibly not supported by MSFT) before the 2 years extended warranty runs out. $99 is the 1/5 of the price of the new phone...
Thoughts?
You bought an extended warranty. That now covers the phone with the headphone issue. Your old phone no longer exist and everything is about the new one. That being said you should be able to get the new one fixed at no charge. I also think the MS store ripped you off. They should not be able to legally require you to buy an extended contract to get a phone replaced. Honestly I would fight this since we are dealing with a 600 USD phone here that should be replaced for free as long as it is with in warranty. Also does the extended warranty cover things like drops or water damage? If not then you wasted your money on the warranty. The AT&T extended warranty which cost an extra 9 bucks a month covers ANYTHING that can or could happen to phone rather accidental or on purpose for the length of the contract. I could drop it then back my car over it and they would replace it no questions asked.
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You bought an extended warranty. That now covers the phone with the headphone issue. Your old phone no longer exist and everything is about the new one. That being said you should be able to get the new one fixed at no charge. I also think the MS store ripped you off. They should not be able to legally require you to buy an extended contract to get a phone replaced. Honestly I would fight this since we are dealing with a 600 USD phone here that should be replaced for free as long as it is with in warranty. Also does the extended warranty cover things like drops or water damage? If not then you wasted your money on the warranty. The AT&T extended warranty which cost an extra 9 bucks a month covers ANYTHING that can or could happen to phone rather accidental or on purpose for the length of the contract. I could drop it then back my car over it and they would replace it no questions asked.
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That was the first option he was offered from the store. They do not have to replace the device on the spot, they are allowed to send it in for repair. At least, that's how our law in germany is, not sure about other countries.
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That was the first option he was offered from the store. They do not have to replace the device on the spot, they are allowed to send it in for repair. At least, that's how our law in germany is, not sure about other countries.
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Unless Germany is just strange, there really is no law that dictates this. It is just what most have accepted as the norm and so the businesses use such policies becuase they can and no one knows better. As the paying customer you have a right to decide ho it is handled if it is under warranty. Typically you just ask then to give you a new phone on the spot and then they do whatever with the bad one. The usually will send it in for repair then sell it as a refurbished unit. Sometimes rather than a new phone they will offer you a refurb which many times is better becuase it has all the known issue of a new unit fixed.
Of course this all does not really matter now as what done is done but in the future, as a paying customer it helps to know your rights and not to let the business take you for a ride.
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Unless Germany is just strange, there really is no law that dictates this. It is just what most have accepted as the norm and so the businesses use such policies becuase they can and no one knows better. As the paying customer you have a right to decide ho it is handled if it is under warranty.
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This is definatelly not true for germany. In germany Law dictates that the customer has to allow the seller/manufacturer to fix a broken device or item 3 times in a reasonable ammount of time. Court orders have proven that this means a shop can send the item in for repair and is not forced to either give you a brand new phone or a "rental" unit. He can also offer you to nullify the sales contract and refund you (note: offer, not force). If the seller decides to replace the phone, he still is not forced to replace it on the spot but in a reasonable ammount of time it takes for a replacement unit to arrive. If the seller/manufacturer fails to deliver a fully working product after the third try (note that the law does not explicitly state "third try" or "three times" but again uses the wording "reasonable" - which courts have often ruled to be three or four times) you can demand he refunds you the full price of the item.
EDIT: I can also not believe that other countries, including the US, can by law force the seller to replace the item on the spot. It's simply not reasonable as it would require the seller to keep a sufficient stock of devices in storage he can effectively not sell to customers as they need to be held back for "replacements".
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This is definatelly not true for germany. In germany Law dictates that the customer has to allow the seller/manufacturer to fix a broken device or item 3 times in a reasonable ammount of time. Court orders have proven that this means a shop can send the item in for repair and is not forced to either give you a brand new phone or a "rental" unit. He can also offer you to nullify the sales contract and refund you (note: offer, not force). If the seller decides to replace the phone, he still is not forced to replace it on the spot but in a reasonable ammount of time it takes for a replacement unit to arrive. If the seller/manufacturer fails to deliver a fully working product after the third try (note that the law does not explicitly state "third try" or "three times" but again uses the wording "reasonable" - which courts have often ruled to be three or four times) you can demand he refunds you the full price of the item.
EDIT: I can also not believe that other countries, including the US, can by law force the seller to replace the item on the spot. It's simply not reasonable as it would require the seller to keep a sufficient stock of devices in storage he can effectively not sell to customers as they need to be held back for "replacements".
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I never said it was a law, but buyers right. They do not have to replace it on the spot unless the customer asks to do so. Most don't becuase they do not know they have that right. So no a store does not keep stock becuase they very rarely have to replace a phone on the spot.
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I never said it was a law, but buyers right.
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If it is not in the law, how can it be buyers right? There has to be a law governing the rights and dutys of all parties involved in a purchase.

READ YOUR WARRANTY: If issues occur down the road, THIS IS IMPORTANT

In the warranty it describes the procedure for disputes and claims. Unless you request an opt out, YOU WAIVE ANY RIGHT TO A JURY TRIAL AS WELL AS PARTICIPATING IN ANY CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS. "Neither you, nor any customer, can be a class representative, class member, or otherwise participate in a class, consolidated, or representative proceeding without having completed the opt out requirements above."
Seriously you all, in light of all of the boot-loop issues, this is very important as if you do not opt out of this agreement then you will HAVE NO LEGAL STANDING IN A COURT OF LAW
So... what are the opt-out requirements?
But if you opt out you don't have a warranty?
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Opt Out. You may opt out of this dispute resolution procedure. If you opt out, neither you nor LG can require the other to participate in an arbitration proceeding. To opt out, you must send notice to LG no later than 30 calendar days from the date of the first consumer purchaser's purchase of the product by either: (i) sending an e-mail to [email protected], with the subject line: "Arbitration Opt Out" or (ii) calling 1-800-980-2973. You must include in the opt out e-mail or provide by telephone: (a) your name and address; (b) the date on which the product was purchased; (c) the product model name or model number; and (d) the IMEI or MEID or Serial Number, as applicable (the IMEI or MEID or Serial Number can be found (i) on the product box; (ii) on a label on the back of the product beneath the battery, if the battery is removable; or (iii) from the settings menu via the following path: Settings > General > About phone > Status). You may only opt out of the dispute resolution procedure in the manner described above (that is, by e-mail or telephone); no other form of notice will be effective to opt out of this dispute resolution procedure. Opting out of this dispute resolution procedure will not affect the coverage of the Limited Warranty in any way, and you will continue to enjoy the full benefits of the Limited Warranty. If you keep this product and do not opt out, then you accept all terms and conditions of the arbitration provision described above.
I'll admit it, worst case scenario I'll send them a few emails and ring them a dozen times. But I'm not going to court over a phone.
thewilkster said:
I'll admit it, worst case scenario I'll send them a few emails and ring them a dozen times. But I'm not going to court over a phone.
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I have to agree here as well.... This will be due to the G4 and G5 law suits people have been taking out against Lg in the last 12 month.. I bet its Samsung fanbois trying to kick LG to the curb because they know the S8 is just an S7 edge with a bezel-less screen.. and theyre upset
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I have to agree here as well.... This will be due to the G4 and G5 law suits people have been taking out against Lg in the last 12 month.. I bet its Samsung fanbois trying to kick LG to the curb because they know the S8 is just an S7 edge with a bezel-less screen.. and theyre upset
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:laugh: but oooh it has a curvy screen! It's a nice phone but I got too good of a deal on the G6 to turn it down. Plus I'm already seeing S8's everywhere.
Meh. If the phone goes kerflooey and I don't get treated right, I wouldn't mind arbitration at all. It's a pretty fair process.
Generally, those class action lawsuits tend to get tied up for years and years before the consumer sees any benefit, as the lawyers wring every last legal fee they possibly can.
Bought a 2013 Kia soul in 2012. Class action suit filed for mileage misstatement. Kia settled right up that year, and all the owners were to get 600 bucks. Then, it got held up over all kinds of issues, blah, blah... then last year, a totally new law firm filed an objection and extensive appeal to the fairness of the first settlement, and will now proceed to rake it for legal fees again for the next few years into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Meantime, the folks who these lawyers say they are fighting for might get 25 more bucks at the end. Maybe.
Bought the car 5 years ago. Kia settled 4 years ago. Lawyers will milk that cow til 2020 or longer if they can. Same thing probably will happen with the bootloop stuff, where you'll get 60 dollars from LG in 2025.
I'd arbitrate any day over doing that, and go home with a new phone or a substantial credit on the next phone, etc., and be light years ahead.
Your mileage may vary
Cheers,
StevenRN

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