[Q] Block Amazon firmware updates for HDX 8.9 - Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot

How can I block the Amazon update process?
I had root my 8.9 with the firmware 14.3.1.0. After that I had install safetrap and the hdx utility’s. Then I had rename the /system/etc/security/otacerts.zip and I had block the IP’s 72.21.194.208, 72.21.195.233 and 176.32.195.233 at my firewall. Everything works fine.
After that, I had login in at my amazon account and start to install all my App’s. After a while my hdx had made an update to 14.3.2.1 and now I have no root anymore.
I will send it back to amazon and a friend of mine will by me a new one.
But, how can I block this???

kuehni said:
How can I block the Amazon update process?
I had root my 8.9 with the firmware 14.3.1.0. After that I had install safetrap and the hdx utility’s. Then I had rename the /system/etc/security/otacerts.zip and I had block the IP’s 72.21.194.208, 72.21.195.233 and 176.32.195.233 at my firewall. Everything works fine.
After that, I had login in at my amazon account and start to install all my App’s. After a while my hdx had made an update to 14.3.2.1 and now I have no root anymore.
I will send it back to amazon and a friend of mine will by me a new one.
But, how can I block this???
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Most of the replacement refurbs delivering now have already been updated, so good luck with that. Even if you get one that hasn't updated yet, that is the first thing it will do, before you even sign in, it starts updating immediately.

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New update v.1.4.2 available.

I just noticed that a new update to version 1.4.2 started rolling out Monday, February 20, 2012. All those with a rooted 1.4.1 NT that weren't blocking updates because "there isn't an update available now anyway" may want to look into it now.
I haven't heard any details concerning what this update fixes or adds but, if recent history is any indication, it very well may break your rooting and/or side-loading apps and who knows how long it may take our resident geniuses on here to come up with a work-around.
Be forewarned everyone.
- Byron
It would be great to hear from somebody, if new Nook Tablets (16GB) are coming already with this version and if they can be rooted and reinstalled to CM7
Anyone wanting to can download it here.
The page notes "The NOOK Tablet Ver1.4.2 update provides minor system enhancements."
Edit: Also, BN_AlexG (admin at the B&N forums) said he will post the changes soon (post made 5 hours ago). Dean_Gibson also posted the changed files in the thread I linked.
Easy rooting
There should be no concerns about rooting. I was unable to upgrade from 1.4.1 rooted (w/Market, etc) to 1.4.2 (the B&N update detects an error and does not continue), but reverting to 1.4.0 stock (erase+deregister+reregister) and then applying my rooting procedure from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1413734 to root and update directly to 1.4.2 and reroot, worked. Since that is more sensitive to B&N changes than most rooting methods, other rooting methods should work as well.
I dont think the root block on the new 8gb nook tablets running 1.4.2 is what actually blocks rooting. I think the new wave of tablets have some changes beyond the rom that actually controls the boot sequence and prevents rooting from SD card. Not sure though... My newest video shows that no current root methods work on the 1.4.2 8 gb nook tablets and I dont think it will be long until they apply the same changes to the next wave of manufactured 16gb tablets.
Yes, it got me just a minute ago. Disabled Android Marketplace
Yes, 1.4.2 breaks things. Android Marketplace is now disabled on my Nook Tablet With SD card boot.
It pops up:
You must add an account to the device to continue. Do you want to add one now?
But clicking either button returns to the home screen
Other features seem to be working.
sherwingws said:
Yes, 1.4.2 breaks things. Android Marketplace is now disabled on my Nook Tablet With SD card boot.
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I'm going to assume you didn't have updates blocked via indirect's method or some other method, yes?
Or did you intentionally update to see if the updates would break stuff?
Slapped with 1.4.2 OTA, what are my options?
sherwingws said:
Yes, 1.4.2 breaks things. Android Marketplace is now disabled on my Nook Tablet With SD card boot.
It pops up:
You must add an account to the device to continue. Do you want to add one now?
But clicking either button returns to the home screen
Other features seem to be working.
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(I hope this is an appropriate thread to post this... if not I'll just move out of the way.)
I rooted my NT two days ago using Albert's SD card method (thanks!), and thought I had for sure used NT Hidden Settings to block OTA. This morning I saw that the update had been applied, and a few things on my NT are now broken.
Now I cannot access the market. I get the same error as sherwingws.
Other gapps are broken now too including Talk, Currents, and gmail.
Can I just repeat the SD root process? Or do I need to make other changes before I attempt that. What are my options at this point?
Thanks everyone!
Also wanting to confirm that 1.4.2 breaks root. Rooted my NT two weeks ago using Indirect's sd card method and could have sworn that I blocked OTA updates, but about an hour ago got the update anyway and any programs requiring root won't run. This includes Android Marketplace. ::sadface::
Gapps broken also at first, BUT...using getjar app, I re-downloaded gmail and it had no problem installing and running. So maybe all is not lost?
Edit: Sorry, I lied about gapps. Ignore that, pls.
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I am also having the same problem, no market place which also makes me sad. Anyone know what I should do?
Nice, that's would be great to here this update~

[Q] Rooted hdx 8.9, can't access video

Early on I rooted my hdx 8.9 but never installed safestrap, instead preventing updates by modifying ota certs and com.amazon.dcp.apk and running android firewall. I recently factory reset to update (14.3.2.6), re-rooted and renamed above files to protect adaway. However, now back in amazonland I'm finding I cannot access prime videos (everything else seems to work). Thinking ota certs and dcp.apk may be the problem, I unmodified and retried, also rebooting in the process. Still no access. Could I have somehow modified other files, though don't remember doing so? Any ideas highly appreciated.
remove updates
I had a similar issue and could fix it: go to settings, all apps, choose amazon instant video and select “remove updates“. Good luck.
spersich said:
Early on I rooted my hdx 8.9 but never installed safestrap, instead preventing updates by modifying ota certs and com.amazon.dcp.apk and running android firewall. I recently factory reset to update (14.3.2.6), re-rooted and renamed above files to protect adaway. However, now back in amazonland I'm finding I cannot access prime videos (everything else seems to work). Thinking ota certs and dcp.apk may be the problem, I unmodified and retried, also rebooting in the process. Still no access. Could I have somehow modified other files, though don't remember doing so? Any ideas highly appreciated.
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Yes! I had forced closed and cleared data but didn't try to uninstall updates. Many thanks.

[Q] Deleting downloaded update

I was going through the process of rolling back my kindle to 13.3.2.8 from 4.5.3 and then manually updating to 4.5.2 and rooting. In the process I had to enable WiFi to install ES File Explorer. It immediately started to download the update to 4.5.3! In the Device settings for update, it is showing there is an update ready to install. Is there a way to delete this 4.5.3 update? I don't know what to search for to find the .bin file or whatever is there ready to install. I have renamed the OTA file in order to stop the automatic updates. Everything seams to be working fine but I think I'd feel better knowing that file was not there ready to install!
Thanks!
In need of help!
So I had followed the instructions for my KFHDX for rolling back back from 4.5.3 to 3.2.8 and manually updating to 4.5.2 and rooting and installing the gapps. All of this was successful with no problems at all! I was installing a couple of apps and was having some difficulty getting a program to link to dropbox (I don't know if this is relevant or not). I had downloaded this from the Play Store and had to install and re-install it to get things synced up. Eventually I got this all working... Then I believe what might have caused my problem is running an update on the Google Play Store. After that I am now stuck in the settings of the device and unable to get the home or back button to come up. I cannot get out of settings... I can connect to WiFi and change settings, see what applications are installed, etc., but I cannot get to any apps.
I had already changed the name of the OTA update file, but I cannot get to it to change it back to be able to run an update. In the process of this whole deal (which may be another part of the problem) is I tried to restore factory defaults...
So, can anyone help me either get this back to stock or any clue how I can get the Kindle to the home page in order to run File Explorer to rename the OTA file back in order to get it to possibly run the 4.5.2 or 3.2.8 rollback again? Anything really.. I'm in purgatory here!
Thanks
IMNOTL8 said:
So I had followed the instructions for my KFHDX for rolling back back from 4.5.3 to 3.2.8 and manually updating to 4.5.2 and rooting and installing the gapps. All of this was successful with no problems at all! I was installing a couple of apps and was having some difficulty getting a program to link to dropbox (I don't know if this is relevant or not). I had downloaded this from the Play Store and had to install and re-install it to get things synced up. Eventually I got this all working... Then I believe what might have caused my problem is running an update on the Google Play Store. After that I am now stuck in the settings of the device and unable to get the home or back button to come up. I cannot get out of settings... I can connect to WiFi and change settings, see what applications are installed, etc., but I cannot get to any apps.
I had already changed the name of the OTA update file, but I cannot get to it to change it back to be able to run an update. In the process of this whole deal (which may be another part of the problem) is I tried to restore factory defaults...
So, can anyone help me either get this back to stock or any clue how I can get the Kindle to the home page in order to run File Explorer to rename the OTA file back in order to get it to possibly run the 4.5.2 or 3.2.8 rollback again? Anything really.. I'm in purgatory here!
Thanks
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You can open apps with ADB.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4567904/how-to-start-an-application-using-android-adb-tools
so no-one provided an answer to the question. Where do you look with ES File Explorer (root) to delete a pending update.
Updates are stored in /cache.
is there more than one cache folder? Please be very specific as to where I need to point ES file explorer to delete this update files or files. I'm new to this, and don't want to screw my kindle up. If I would have known how to delete this months ago, I could have had a kindle with an unlocked bootloader, but I got screwed by amazon with their updates.
thanks for you help
EncryptedCurse said:
Updates are stored in /cache.
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rlkellyjr said:
is there more than one cache folder? Please be very specific as to where I need to point ES file explorer to delete this update files or files. I'm new to this, and don't want to screw my kindle up. If I would have known how to delete this months ago, I could have had a kindle with an unlocked bootloader, but I got screwed by amazon with their updates.
thanks for you help
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In ES (or any file manager) open the "System" or "/" folder. Find "cache" inside of this folder. In "cache" search for the appropriate update file. "cache" usually doesn't contain vital files, so you shouldn't be able to much damage (if any at all) by tinkering with it. You can always save copies of any files you move/delete in cache to be extra safe!
What if an update already occurred? Is there anyway to uninstall it? The most recent update to kindle fire changed the look and layout of the home screen completely and I really don't like it.
ourljfam said:
What if an update already occurred? Is there anyway to uninstall it? The most recent update to kindle fire changed the look and layout of the home screen completely and I really don't like it.
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Assuming you have a 4th gen 8.9" (Saturn) tablet that was recently updated from FireOS v4 to v5. The look of v5 is closer to 'native' Android but obviously not to everyone's liking. Unfortunately, there is no way back short of contacting Amazon to request a rollback. Not sure they are offering this option. Perhaps a better option is to become familiar with the new interface. FireOS v5 has a lot going for it and is generally a better option vs v4.
ourljfam said:
What if an update already occurred? Is there anyway to uninstall it? The most recent update to kindle fire changed the look and layout of the home screen completely and I really don't like it.
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&nodeId=201980430
if im not mistaken (and someone feel free to correct me if necessary) deleting the cache partition from stock recovery (Power+Left Vol) would also delete the downloaded update
jinxt said:
if im not mistaken (and someone feel free to correct me if necessary) deleting the cache partition from stock recovery (Power+Left Vol) would also delete the downloaded update
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Accurate - but stock recovery does not offer a cache clear option on 3rd gen HDX. Not sure about 4th gen (Saturn).

Kindle Fire HDx 7" OS 4.5.3 root?

I am reading the site the last couple of hours, and I can't find a step by step for Root. I can't Enable ADB because it is not there! So I guess the method for HD is not working? Please help me and sorry if it was asked, but I can't find it,
You can't root 4.5.3, you have to roll back to 3.2.8 (and root it, plus you can install Safestrap on that build and use the Nexus 1.0.1 ROM which is Jelly Bean but that's as far as you go) and then upgrade to 4.5.2 which is still rootable with the CVE exploit.
But with 4.5.3 you're stuck, and with 4.5.4 around the corner there's a chance that update could totally block all rooting period so, be aware of this - stay away from 4.5.4 (when it becomes available) if there's even a potential update or as long as you can, and within reason roll back to 3.2.8 then bump it to 4.5.2, root that build then disable the OTA capability and go from there.
To get ADB, go into Settings, Device, Serial Number - Tap Serial Number 7 times which gives you the Developer Options (just like tapping the build number in normal Android does). Once you have them (go back a menu) you can then enable ADB from there.
But again, the recommendation is to get off 4.5.3 (at least it's my recommendation if you want any possible root at all) as soon as possible.
The instructions are here, I just got an HDX on Wednesday and I've learned quite a bit in the past 48 hours or so (no that doesn't mean I've been lurking/reading/posting for the past 48 hours, of course). It's not that tough, but it does require actual reading with comprehension and not just skimming topics or barely reading the posts in threads.
atti_mac said:
I am reading the site the last couple of hours, and I can't find a step by step for Root. I can't Enable ADB because it is not there! So I guess the method for HD is not working? Please help me and sorry if it was asked, but I can't find it,
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In addition to the comments from br0adband be aware adding gapps (Google Play Services, Store, etc) to Fire OS can be problematic as you can not completely purge the device of Amazon equivalents. It works but not without some annoyances. At present there is a broader issue with the current release of Google Play Services (v7.3)that is impacting a wide swath of devices including many rooted Kindles. Google will likely issue a fix but they do not seem in any hurry to do so.
A rooted HDX running Fire OS 4.x isn't like other Android devices. Root helps you get around some Amazon annoyances and add addition capabilities but it's nothing like pure Android. Even simple things like changing wallpaper can be a hassle.
If you want to move forward w/root see this post for further instructions.
Davey126 said:
In addition to the comments from br0adband be aware adding gapps (Google Play Services, Store, etc) to Fire OS can be problematic as you can not completely purge the device of Amazon equivalents. It works but not without some annoyances. At present there is a broader issue with the current release of Google Play Services (v7.3)that is impacting a wide swath of devices including many rooted Kindles. Google will likely issue a fix but they do not seem in any hurry to do so.
A rooted HDX running Fire OS 4.x isn't like other Android devices. Root helps you get around some Amazon annoyances and add addition capabilities but it's nothing like pure Android. Even simple things like changing wallpaper can be a hassle.
If you want to move forward w/root see this post for further instructions.
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It said : "Put roolback file into the Internal storage folder of your Kindle." !
I downloaded a "mod-update-kindle-thor-13.3.2.8_user_713328020" folder and i have no idea where I have to copy it. I just did it to a main folder put it between the "Kindle" and "Movies" but it doesn't do anything when I want to do an update. Without wifi, didn't even start.
UPDATE, just realized i had to copy a "bin" file not a folder version. So now is downgrading. How to root 3.2.8? should i update to 4.5.2 first and root or root the 3.2.8?
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I was able to downgrade , and upgrade to 4.5.2, rooted, and I was able to follow the other guides to disable OTA updates.
But when I try to install the Google play apps, it said at step 1 "aquire the GApps.."http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/tut-disable-ota-4-5-2-install-gapps-t3043550
So when I followed the link , it takes me here :http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/gapps-google-apps-minimal-edition-t2943330
And Step 2 Boot into recovery to able to install Zip file....
I can't boot in recovery, the step by step guide said power on, and when i will see the "kindle fire" hold the power till turns blue and let it go. Mine newer turns blue just orange and if I let the power go nothing happen.
Will you guys help? I am so close!
Do not do the recovery instructions. Grab the file from the link and follow the instructions from this forum. If you are rooted, be very careful with stock recovery.
The spoiler is instead of installing the zip, unzip it and copy many of the files to their respective folders. Skip priv/app/ setupwizard.apk and priv/app/prebuiltgmscore.apk. install the gms core as a normal app and you are good to go... almost. Look around the HDX general threads for a fix to prevent google play services updating themselves.
Good luck
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a chinese root toolkit named Kingroot seems able to support Fire OS 4.5.3 now. Several guys tested it and succeeded.
but it contians a su manager named KingUser from the same company. if anybody can install SuperSU instead, you can have a try.
some one dont understand chinese? PM me, i can help.
BTW. Personally, I never recommend Chinese APPs from chinese companies. They use the APPs/Softwares to play a role as thief to steal your information, contacts, maybe more. And they always ask for more permissions.
For economic benefits, they can do anything.
FotixChiang said:
a chinese root toolkit named Kingroot seems able to support Fire OS 4.5.3 now. Several guys tested it and succeeded.
but it contians a su manager named KingUser from the same company. if anybody can install SuperSU instead, you can have a try.
some one dont understand chinese? PM me, i can help.
BTW. Personally, I never recommend Chinese APPs from chinese companies. They use the APPs/Softwares to play a role as thief to steal your information, contacts, maybe more. And they always ask for more permissions.
For economic benefits, they can do anything.
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FYI recieved OTA 4.5.4 and it breaks root. Kingroot 4.1 no longer works.
koda1789 said:
FYI recieved OTA 4.5.4 and it breaks root. Kingroot 4.1 no longer works.
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Must be a lucky day that I've just rooted 4.5.3 with Kingroot and disabled OTA today :fingers-crossed:
koda1789 said:
FYI recieved OTA 4.5.4 and it breaks root. Kingroot 4.1 no longer works.
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Unbelievable. Had an HDX 7" with 13.3.1.0, rooted, was ready to unlock bootloader and install CM12. Received a surprise visit, and when I got back to my desk I was on 4.5.4...
Bad day...
Well, it could be worse, you could have gotten bricked during the update.
Davey126 said:
In addition to the comments from br0adband be aware adding gapps (Google Play Services, Store, etc) to Fire OS can be problematic as you can not completely purge the device of Amazon equivalents. It works but not without some annoyances. At present there is a broader issue with the current release of Google Play Services (v7.3)that is impacting a wide swath of devices including many rooted Kindles. Google will likely issue a fix but they do not seem in any hurry to do so.
A rooted HDX running Fire OS 4.x isn't like other Android devices. Root helps you get around some Amazon annoyances and add addition capabilities but it's nothing like pure Android. Even simple things like changing wallpaper can be a hassle.
If you want to move forward w/root see this post for further instructions.
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Watch this video to fix that issue with Google Play Services...
[Fix] - Play store and COC not Working on Kindle …: https://youtu.be/7RxuP9X3Mgo
Ali Ejea Mc said:
Watch this video to fix that issue with Google Play Services...
[Fix] - Play store and COC not Working on Kindle …: https://youtu.be/7RxuP9X3Mgo
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Thanks.
Another option now exists for locked devices that involves replacing FireOS with Nexus which natively supports the Play store. See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3137840

[Q] Does root break offline prime videos or kindle lending library?

Hello, I just got my fire HD6. I want to root to get GAPPS, but pretty much leave everything else stock (at least for now). I bought it mainly to watch prime videos offline on a long plane trip coming up. Will root break that functionality?
Also, will it break kindle lending library functionality?
Thanks!
Right now, Fire OS 4.5.4 can't be rooted.
marsy00 said:
Hello, I just got my fire HD6. I want to root to get GAPPS, but pretty much leave everything else stock (at least for now). I bought it mainly to watch prime videos offline on a long plane trip coming up. Will root break that functionality?
Also, will it break kindle lending library functionality?
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Rooting doesn't break any Amazon features--it's exactly what you want. At this time, however, you can only root Fire OS 4.5.3, and Amazon just pushed the 4.5.4 update. I think the roll out is finished. Look at Settings>Device Options>System Updates to see the version you have.
If you still have 4.5.3 (and have adb drivers installed), I think you can use these adb commands to prevent the update from installing. (Not sure, just thought I read you can block updates on unrooted Fire HDs) Anyway, you should do this immediately:
adb shell
pm block com.amazon.otaverifier
pm block com.amazon.dcp​After you run the commands, you can try rooting. You can unblock dcp after you're rooted.
I am running Fire OS 4.5.3 with root and I use the prime video and music all the time with no issues.
DoLooper said:
At this time, however, you can only root Fire OS 4.5.3, and Amazon just pushed the 4.5.4 update. .
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Damn, it auto updated me over night last night.

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