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Im thinking of up grading to the Vibrant. Any reason not to? Is there a better phone on the horizen? Im currently with T-mobile and dont want to switch. Thanks in advance!!
Only other choice is the T-Mobile G2 (Oct 6.) or myTouch HD (rumored to release November '10?). I've gotten the Vibrant since week one and don't regret getting it. The Super AMOLED screen is definitely beautiful and one of the things admired most from this phone.
get it
best screen. like a hdtv in your pocket
t-mobile has great 3g speeds
hummingbird > snapdragon
released in 100+ countries, including every major carrier in the US so community support should be huge
there's always better phones on the horizon, but this is the phone i've been waiting for ever since the iphone was announced years ago. and it hasn't disappointed
no it sucks. *at the airport, using vibrant to tether 3g to laptop*
G2 is very appealing and I am considering switching... it comes down to physical keyboard and stock android VS bigger and much better screen, slightly better hardware..
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it comes down to physical keyboard and stock android VS bigger and much better screen, slightly better hardware..
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while i understand this viewpoint, touchwhiz is easily disabled. there is also no guarantee that the G2 will get the same OTA updates as the N1 simply because it is stock android. the original droid on verizon is a good example.
but yeah, if you need/want a hardware keyboard the G2 is a better choice (obviously). unless you can deal with sprint and the epic
I got two. My wife approved.
My 3rd android phone (just from passion of the OS), this is by far my most favorite of them. Speed, Design, Display... love everything about it.
Touchwiz is actually very usable from personal experience and reviews. It added alot of 'shortcuts' that makes life alot easier. For example, swipe notification bar to change brightness while outdoor, instead of going through 3-4 menus. Overall, Vibrant is a very solid phone at stock, definitely recommend it.
Only issues now are the GPS and Froyo, mostly Froyo.
+Amazing looking screen, ignore the iPhone 4 people and their color fidelity nonsense, the Vibrant is more colorful that the iPhone 4 and looks a lot better when viewing pictures and movies.
+Runs very fast, 1ghz processor.
+Very thin and light compared to the iPhone 4 (especially now that everyone has put a case on theirs), the back is plastic not glass, but I like saving the weight and I think the patterned back looks fine, comes with 2 colored backplates in the package I got.
+Android, with an open market, unlike At&t's flavor, the Captivate.
+Currently the best T-mobile phone available if you need to get a new one right now.
+Shoots 720p at 30fps. Big selling point, my friend bought a flip video and my phone takes the exact same quality of video and I don't have to carry an additional device, the camera is 5mp and also quite good.
Some downsides
-T-mobile took out some features from the stock Galaxy S, including fm radio, front facing camera and flash. I don't really need a front facing camera or a flash, the night mode works very well and renders a flash almost useless. Fm radio would be nice but I can live without it, I just loaded up my own music.
-Bloatware, it comes with a slew of crappy apps that you cannot remove without rooting. I would strongly recommend rooting, deleting bloatware, and then unrooting (The sales rep. at T-mobile actually recomended this ) It's about as safe as it can get and very easy, 1 click root and unroot, just look for it on xda. Also expect this on other T-mobile phones, except maybe the G2.
If you can wait a little just to see what's planned for the winter you might consider it, but I doubt you will be that disappointed if you buy the vibrant now. T-mobile has had a sad list of Android phones besides the Nexus One, so I doubt there's anything better than the myTouch or G2 coming out.
D O N O T B U Y V I B R A N T ! ! !
And any Sam**** products!
because...
http://www.samsunghub.com/2010/09/06/samsung-galaxy-tabs-model-numbers-for-different-operators/
mingkee said:
D O N O T B U Y V I B R A N T ! ! !
And any Sam**** products!
because...
http://www.samsunghub.com/2010/09/06/samsung-galaxy-tabs-model-numbers-for-different-operators/
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What's the point coming here and trolling? If you dont like their products then don't look here. And as far as the downside. It's not t-mobile its all us carriers so don't call out t-mobile.
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What's the point coming here and trolling? If you dont like their products then don't look here. And as far as the downside. It's not t-mobile its all us carriers so don't call out t-mobile.
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I am not trolling, period.
If we, T-Mobile USA customers are not honored, we should boycott that manufacturer.
Why shan't that Galaxy tab come to T-Mobile, but will go to AT&T, Sprint, and VZW?????
TELL ME!
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I am not trolling, period.
If we, T-Mobile USA customers are not honored, we should boycott that manufacturer.
Why shan't that Galaxy tab come to T-Mobile, but will go to AT&T, Sprint, and VZW?????
TELL ME!
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So you're upset that T-Mobile isn't getting the Samsung Galaxy S Tab? What makes you think that it is 100% on Samsungs part?
This is the SAMSUNG VIBRANT forum, I honestly don't care too much about a tablet because I'll never use it. I just find the tablet and the Vibrant to be irrelevant. If anything.. why would you would a contracted tablet? If anything I would want a WiFi only version and just tether with my phone.
Samsung has been moving away from cutting exclusive deals with wireless operators for its growing slate of mobile devices. It launched its most recent smartphone, the Galaxy, with the top four U.S. wireless operators, Verizon Wireless, AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile USA. T-Mobile USA, a unit of Deutsche Telekom AG and the fourth-largest U.S. wireless carrier, hasn't yet worked out a deal to carry the tablet, a person familiar with the matter said.
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Thnks for all the input guys!!
mingkee said:
I am not trolling, period.
If we, T-Mobile USA customers are not honored, we should boycott that manufacturer.
Why shan't that Galaxy tab come to T-Mobile, but will go to AT&T, Sprint, and VZW?????
TELL ME!
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Uhhh... Yeah, you're a troll alright.
Wow what a disaster.. The Lumia 920 is exclusive to Rogers again.. And even better ONLY IN BLACK! Wow.. I have never been more let down about a release for a phone. Nokia's been hyping up this phone since it was announced, showing off it's beautiful selection of colors all over Nokia Canada's Facebook page only to release it in the most boring and conservative colour.
I was waiting to buy this phone. I was even considering switching to Rogers from Telus just to be able to use tethering and MMS finally (because Nokia refuses to release the network setup app in Canada) and then hearing that black IS the only option is a big let down. Almost as much as restricting this phone to one carrier. You'd think Microsoft would want to try to breakthrough the Canadian market finally and release this phone on all carriers (like the Galaxy S3) but nope, Rogers is good enough for them. They'll be lucky if they sell more 920's than 900's this year.
Sorry just had to vent.
I read on mobilesyrup that perhaps the exclusivity only lasts for a month (speculation)
Sony’s Xperia Phones Outselling BlackBerry and Nokia in Europe
Sony Mobile appears to be finally returning to the battle for supremacy on the smartphone market, at least this is what a recent report from Kantar Worldpanel ComTech shows.
Apparently, the company’s Xperia devices are selling better than RIM’s BlackBerry devices and Nokia’s phones on the old continent.
“After joining the European smartphone market late Sony is making up for lost time with its Xperia series, outselling both BlackBerry and Nokia as a result of strong performances in Spain, Germany and France,” a report from the company reads.
Of course, Samsung remains the top OEM in this market, the same as it is in the United States, yet things appear to be turning to better for Sony, which has lost a significant amount of ground in front of competition in the past several years.
Source: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Sony...g-BlackBerry-and-Nokia-in-Europe-297452.shtml
http://www.ebay.com/sch/zteusainc/m...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
They still sell it on the regular website and Best Buy and New Egg are still selling them on ebay. But this is very interesting that they have stopped selling it on ebay.
If they don't have any stock, how would they be running anything on eBay? I don't think ebay lets you run pre-orders and such. I'd bet it will come back up when stock arrive shortly.
It's no about stock actually.
They don't want non-US users to get the chance to buy the US model outside of the US. Which you were able to using eBay.
I was told by BHPhoto that they are restricted by ZTE to sell the device to non-US customers.
The US version is the better one compared to the international model.
Lucky me I have a buddy in NY area who got the newegg pre-order of the grey version and will forward it to me. I'm in Europe and have tested the A2017G. Sent it back as I'm waiting for the A2017U (US Model).
how is that the U model is better then G?
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how is that the U model is better then G?
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Easy for Unlock bootloader and easy to fix soft-brick , probably more buy those 2 comes first!!
oh ok , now that they halt the sale outside us ,seem like its just for you guys , well it should promote more and increase the community , frankly speaking just this year i heard of this brand , hmmm where has it been all these years
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It's no about stock actually.
They don't want non-US users to get the chance to buy the US model outside of the US. Which you were able to using eBay.
I was told by BHPhoto that they are restricted by ZTE to sell the device to non-US customers.
The US version is the better one compared to the international model.
Lucky me I have a buddy in NY area who got the newegg pre-order of the grey version and will forward it to me. I'm in Europe and have tested the A2017G. Sent it back as I'm waiting for the A2017U (US Model).
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Could you please detail why G version would be worse than U. It is same hardware and only modem is different but modem behaves better in G as read comments anywhere? What do you expect from U? If you have software issues I am sure that if any is fixed in one of two it will be sorted out on other one too.
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Could you please detail why G version would be worse than U. It is same hardware and only modem is different but modem behaves better in G as read comments anywhere? What do you expect from U? If you have software issues I am sure that if any is fixed in one of two it will be sorted out on other one too.
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Actually only a few points that tipped it over for me in favor for the U version.
A: Better Software support from ZTE USA.
B: The U version has VoLTE which is supported in ROM/Baseband. The G version does not and never will. (Not supported in the modem firmware).
C: U version allows you to enter EDL mode (Qualcomms Emergency Download Mode). I need this as I'm a dev. The G version can only enter DFU mode.
D: All the band's that are required in my Euro country and in the US are supported. I travel to friends in the US and don't want to have to switch phones.
E: With the newegg pre-order you were given free headphones for around 200$. After customs it will be the same price as the G version in euros but with additional free high quality headphones.
F: My buddy tested the phone for "bad signal reception" and other faults/defects I mentioned to look out for. For over a week before sending the device over. Else I would have told him to send it back.
He is using an OP3 and even compared them as a daily driver. He said it's on par with the OP3. He even said the Axon7 is like "stuck on 4G" while his OP3 loses 4G occasionally and gets 3G only.
He is an experienced IT tech. I trust his judgement.
He is even thinking about selling his OP3 and to grab an Axon7 as soon as CM is done.
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Could you please detail why G version would be worse than U. It is same hardware and only modem is different but modem behaves better in G as read comments anywhere? What do you expect from U? If you have software issues I am sure that if any is fixed in one of two it will be sorted out on other one too.
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The G model has a lower volume cap, possibly due to EU regulations, while the U model has a much higher cap. The G model also seems to have more issues with bootloader unlocking, while the U model is pretty straight forward.
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Actually only a few points that tipped it over for me in favor for the U version.
A: Better Software support from ZTE USA.
B: The U version has VoLTE which is supported in ROM/Baseband. The G version does not and never will. (Not supported in the modem firmware).
C: U version allows you to enter EDL mode (Qualcomms Emergency Download Mode). I need this as I'm a dev. The G version can only enter DFU mode.
D: All the band's that are required in my Euro country and in the US are supported. I travel to friends in the US and don't want to have to switch phones.
E: With the newegg pre-order you were given free headphones for around 200$. After customs it will be the same price as the G version in euros but with additional free high quality headphones.
F: My buddy tested the phone for "bad signal reception" and other faults/defects I mentioned to look out for. For over a week before sending the device over. Else I would have told him to send it back.
He is using an OP3 and even compared them as a daily driver. He said it's on par with the OP3. He even said the Axon7 is like "stuck on 4G" while his OP3 loses 4G occasionally and gets 3G only.
He is an experienced IT tech. I trust his judgement.
He is even thinking about selling his OP3 and to grab an Axon7 as soon as CM is done.
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Thanks for the details. You see it from developer point of view mainly as I see.
A) I don't know. May be but as I see much less G related problem was reported than U.
B) May be but Volte is not as wide spreaded in EU as in US. as far as I know. Otherwise It looks that workaroud (if not the final solution) for signal issue of US model is turning Volte off, so you can get in same boat easily.
C) I don't know how important it is for avaradge users. Orherwise it is also software fearure if I understand it well.
D) You are lucky. Not eveeybody can say that US bands cover of his/her country exactly.
E) Just because of this fact US version is not better. It is only cheaper.
F) It is strange because mostly US users complain for signal reception. I haven't had any issue with. G. It works perfectly and expectedly in big city as well as low signal country area. As I mentioned earlier it looks that workaroud (if not the final solution) for signal issue of US model is turning Volte off.
Also I read that overwriting field APN manually can solve few cell issues. I did it due to orher reason and I don't have any issue.
So after all you didn't mentioned anything why U would be better for users except Volte. It is just your taste and chance to get it cheaper.
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Thanks for the details. You see it from developer point of view mainly as I see.
A) I don't know. May be but as I see much less G related problem was reported than U.
B) May be but Volte is not as wide spreaded in EU as in US. as far as I know. Otherwise It looks that workaroud (if not the final solution) for signal issue of US model is turning Volte off, so you can get in same boat easily.
C) I don't know how important it is for avaradge users. Orherwise it is also software fearure if I understand it well.
D) You are lucky. Not eveeybody can say that US bands cover of his/her country exactly.
E) Just because of this fact US version is not better. It is only cheaper.
F) It is strange because mostly US users complain for signal reception. I haven't had any issue with. G. It works perfectly and expectedly in big city as well as low signal country area. As I mentioned earlier it looks that workaroud (if not the final solution) for signal issue of US model is turning Volte off.
Also I read that overwriting field APN manually can solve few cell issues. I did it due to orher reason and I don't have any issue.
So after all you didn't mentioned anything why U would be better for users except Volte. It is just your taste and chance to get it cheaper.
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That's why I said it's only a few points for _me_ and not for _all_ users.
And as I have a chance to get all those pros for the same price in the end it is a no brainer.
Also I do not believe that the antenna is so much different to the G model. It is more likely that a few batches had a bad antenna build-in and when ZTE realized that, due to complains, new batches after the affected one's were sent off, were all build with a better antenna in place.
The Chinese and US Models were on the first batches. The international ones were produced later. Look into Chinese forums complaining about reception problems.
Unfortunate it is how the greedy corporate industry world works today. Sell those affected phones until enough users complain. If they complain, offer an exchange. If they don't they made profit.
Just look at the Samsung Note 7 disaster. Same **** is happening there.
Not to mention Samsungs Panel Lottery for their TV which has been going on for a decade.
I worked for Huawei Europe HQ and could write a book about how corporations do their quality check behind the doors. Just saying I'm never gone touch a Huawei phone because of what I know.
(Don't ask I signed an nondisclosure agreement.)
In the end it's on you to decide if you want to keep the phone or not. Or if you want to pay 399$ with more pros or 449euro for more cons.
Isn't the chinese A2017 model better than the rest? I mean... like, you know... 6gb RAM vs 4gb... 128gb internal vs 64... and you can use all the U unlocks/tools w/ no issue?
Seems that many of you forget that having US version in Europe you are out of warranty.
To many customers warranty is very important to them.
Also EU has 3 years warranty policy while US 2 years.
I'm having a month now both gold and gray G version and no reception /WiFi issue at all.
Compared to my S7 Edge the call reception is the same level and WiFi is better.
Also G version will have in coming weeks official root and boot loader unlocked from ZTE without loosing the warranty.
Even that US version is getting first the official software updates it's just matter of time(less than 1 month) until G version also received the software update for the specific region(Europe)
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Just curious does the u model comes from the ZTE USA down in texas? I presumed warranty is by them as well?
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That's why I said it's only a few points for _me_ and not for _all_ users.
And as I have a chance to get all those pros for the same price in the end it is a no brainer.
Also I do not believe that the antenna is so much different to the G model. It is more likely that a few batches had a bad antenna build-in and when ZTE realized that, due to complains, new batches after the affected one's were sent off, were all build with a better antenna in place.
The Chinese and US Models were on the first batches. The international ones were produced later. Look into Chinese forums complaining about reception problems.
Unfortunate it is how the greedy corporate industry world works today. Sell those affected phones until enough users complain. If they complain, offer an exchange. If they don't they made profit.
Just look at the Samsung Note 7 disaster. Same **** is happening there.
Not to mention Samsungs Panel Lottery for their TV which has been going on for a decade.
I worked for Huawei Europe HQ and could write a book about how corporations do their quality check behind the doors. Just saying I'm never gone touch a Huawei phone because of what I know.
(Don't ask I signed an nondisclosure agreement.)
In the end it's on you to decide if you want to keep the phone or not. Or if you want to pay 399$ with more pros or 449euro for more cons.
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You could be right. That's how the world works. You also are not enemy of your money as well as no one else.
Regarding the price I would say that EU price contains the average 21% EU VAT. So it means that price of EU version would be between $410 or 415 in US. So it is not a big deal. Also I think that EU citizens should pay duty if they import from US but it is already off topic.
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Isn't the chinese A2017 model better than the rest? I mean... like, you know... 6gb RAM vs 4gb... 128gb internal vs 64... and you can use all the U unlocks/tools w/ no issue?
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No, bad band support.
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Also I think that EU citizens should pay duty if they import from US but it is already off topic.
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They do. Just not on specific electronics like Notebooks, Computer Hardware, Cell phones etc
Oddly enough, amazon has also stopped selling the phone. I guess it could just be sold out though.
Hm, still "in stock" at amazon.com:
https://www.amazon.com/ZTE-Axon-unl...TF8&qid=1476347129&sr=8-3&keywords=zte+axon+7
Amazon.com has gold for $399.98, but the grey (which is what I want...) is $479.00. What gives???
Hi, sorry if there's an answer somewhere already but I'm quite confused with whether or not the regular P6 has UWB?
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This link says it does, from November. Many of google news regarding digital car key says Pixel 6 is supported, and that I believe that uses UWB right??
But gsmarena and many other who ask the same questions, and other articles says it does not have UWB, that only the P6 pro has it.
Also, I am referring to the short range UWB for tracking Tile Ultra or android digital car key, not the Verizon UWB 5G. Or are they the exact same?
Thanks for any clarification.
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Hi, sorry if there's an answer somewhere already but I'm quite confused with whether or not the regular P6 has UWB?
Google Pixel 6 Pro Review: Fantastic everyday phone with an undeniable Exynos inspiration
The Google Pixel 6 Pro is a fantastic everyday phone with an undeniable Exynos inspiration, though that isn't a bad thing. Read our review!
www.xda-developers.com
This link says it does, from November. Many of google news regarding digital car key says Pixel 6 is supported, and that I believe that uses UWB right??
But gsmarena and many other who ask the same questions, and other articles says it does not have UWB, that only the P6 pro has it.
Also, I am referring to the short range UWB for tracking Tile Ultra or android digital car key, not the Verizon UWB 5G. Or are they the exact same?
Thanks for any clarification.
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The only Pixel 6 that has UWB is the one that Verizon sells or a Verizon branded P6. The Google version does not have the UWB antenna. All the 6P6 devices have it whether it's Verizon or any other one. Verizon 5G UWB is not the same as UWB in general. I believe both will support keyless entry since if it has the antenna/radio technology that is all that matters. Obviously I'm not 100% on this. lol. I'm also not sure if the UWB in the P6P are specific to Verizon or the generic one Apple/Samsung one. Wouldn't mind if an engineer pops their head in here to clarify.
Someone with a non-verizon P6 and a new BMW that has digital car key please turn off bluetooth and NFC and see if the digital car key works.
On a side note, what if a criminal test drive a bmw, setting up digital car key and returning at night to commit grand theft auto.
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Someone with a non-verizon P6 and a new BMW that has digital car key please turn off bluetooth and NFC and see if the digital car key works.
On a side note, what if a criminal test drive a bmw, setting up digital car key and returning at night to commit grand theft auto.
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That's an easy one. They track your phone to your front door, knock and say FBI you're under arrest.
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Someone with a non-verizon P6 and a new BMW that has digital car key please turn off bluetooth and NFC and see if the digital car key works.
On a side note, what if a criminal test drive a bmw, setting up digital car key and returning at night to commit grand theft auto.
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Its just a BMW so... Who cares?
bobby janow said:
The only Pixel 6 that has UWB is the one that Verizon sells or a Verizon branded P6. The Google version does not have the UWB antenna. All the 6P6 devices have it whether it's Verizon or any other one. Verizon 5G UWB is not the same as UWB in general. I believe both will support keyless entry since if it has the antenna/radio technology that is all that matters. Obviously I'm not 100% on this. lol. I'm also not sure if the UWB in the P6P are specific to Verizon or the generic one Apple/Samsung one. Wouldn't mind if an engineer pops their head in here to clarify.
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Very incorrect. UWB is ultra-wideband for locational awareness. Only the Pixel 6 Pro supports it. Pixel 6 can only use NFC.
Verizon's UWB is a completely unrelated marketing term for their mid-band and mmwave 5G.
The UWB we are discussing is not 5G. Different technology entirely.
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Very incorrect. UWB is ultra-wideband for locational awareness. Only the Pixel 6 Pro supports it. Pixel 6 can only use NFC.
Verizon's UWB is a completely unrelated marketing term for their mid-band and mmwave 5G.
The UWB we are discussing is not 5G. Different technology entirely.
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Very incorrect? Really? So even though the P6 can use Verizon's UWB it can't use regular UWB? If what you say is correct that would mean the P6P has UWB for Verizon 5G as well as UWB for location awareness? As I said I was not entirely sure about this so if you have some knowledge regarding this please let us know without the comments about levels of correctness.
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Very incorrect? Really? So even though the P6 can use Verizon's UWB it can't use regular UWB? If what you say is correct that would mean the P6P has UWB for Verizon 5G as well as UWB for location awareness? As I said I was not entirely sure about this so if you have some knowledge regarding this please let us know without the comments about levels of correctness.
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You are confusing 2 completely unrelated technologies.
Please drop any idea of Verizon UWB or types of 5G. We are not talking about that.
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You are confusing 2 completely unrelated technologies.
Please drop any idea of Verizon UWB or types of 5G. We are not talking about that.
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I got that. I just questioning whether or not the P6P has both the Verizon UWB and local UWB. If there is someone that can clarify what you are knowledgeable about that would help this discussion. Just saying I'm confusing the two technologies doesn't really help much here.
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I got that. I just questioning whether or not the P6P has both the Verizon UWB and local UWB. If there is someone that can clarify what you are knowledgeable about that would help this discussion. Just saying I'm confusing the two technologies doesn't really help much here.
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Some do and some do not. Depends on which variation.
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Some do and some do not. Depends on which variation.
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So there are 2 versions of the 6Pro? I only thought two versions of the P6. Thanks for confusing me even more if that's possible at this point.
bobby janow said:
So there are 2 versions of the 6Pro? I only thought two versions of the P6. Thanks for confusing me even more if that's possible at this point.
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There are at least 3 variants;
G8VOU (USA, Australia),
GF5KQ (Japan),
GLU0G (Everywhere).
The first two support 5G "mmWave", which is what Verizon is incorrectly referring to as "UWB". The last one does not. The first two may be the same physical hardware, but Japan has unique regulatory requirements. It may refer entirely to being provisioned with a different software build.
Only US versions of the Pixel 6 Pro reliably have the mmwave antenna module. Verizon is not the only carrier with mmwave capability.
Other variants have an empty space. There's also a special Japanese variant which has modified NFC capabilities and government regulated camera shutter sounds.
So basically Verizon messed up the messaging by calling UWB, which has nothing to do with them, UWB 5G a completely different technology. I think I got the gist of it now. Skipping UWB 5G, which devices have UWB? I know Apple products have it and Samsung but where does the P6 series fall?
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So basically Verizon messed up the messaging by calling UWB, which has nothing to do with them, UWB 5G a completely different technology. I think I got the gist of it now. Skipping UWB 5G, which devices have UWB? I know Apple products have it and Samsung but where does the P6 series fall?
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*real* UWB is a feature of ALL Pixel 6 *PRO*, and is NOT available on ANY non-PRO.
Phone carriers are genuinely retarded when it comes to naming technologies. Hand it over to marketing people with a BA in basket weaving. If you want to refer to mmWave, call it mmWave.
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*real* UWB is a feature of ALL Pixel 6 *PRO*, and is NOT available on ANY non-PRO.
Phone carriers are genuinely retarded when it comes to naming technologies. Hand it over to marketing people with a BA in basket weaving. If you want to refer to mmWave, call it mmWave.
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As others already stated, Verizon markets their mmWave 5G-NR "UWB" (Ultra WideBand). Apple and other OEMs are using a separate chip/technology that they are also calling UltraWideBand for location based services (IEEE 802.15.4, not as a 5G connection technology). 802.15.4 UltraWideBand is what BMW is using for their door locking services (Digital Key Plus). This UWB uses channels at 6.5 & 8GHz.
Having said that, the Pixel 6 (non-Pro) in the US comes in non-mmWave (GB7N6, unlocked) and mmWave (G9S9B, AT&T or Verizon) versions. G9S9B adds 5G-NR support for bands 257, 258, 260 & 261 (28, 26, 39 & 28GHz respectively).
The P6-Pro (G8VOU, US & AUS version) has the Qorvo DW3720 802.15.4 UWB chip. No variation of the Pixel 6 has an 802.15.4 UltraWideBand chip/radio.
Hahaha thank you Verizon for confusing the crap out of everyone. This reminds me of when TMobile started calling hspa+ 4g when in reality it was just hspa (3g) with upgraded technology. At&t called the same technology 3.5g because they had LTE (true 4g)
The way it was explained back then is there is no true definition for 3g,4g,5g the g stands for generation so the carriers are free to market it however 5hey want. I just switched to Verizon from Fi and I have the p6 unlocked from the Google store. The sales guy told me I will get c band and so will my wife's pixel 5a. I'm pretty sure I don't get c band with my non Verizon p6. I don't really care I get over 100 Mbps download and do I really need more than that? Personally no I don't.the geek in me wants to see more just so I can see the technology but it's really not necessary. Just like at home I have a 3 bedroom apartment with a few smartphone things but not alot and ingot FiOS gigabit. Way overkill. My buddy has a 4 bedroom house with a finished basement every switch in 5he house is smart and he has 6 streaming devices with a 200mbps plan and everything works fine. Even with his kids playing Xbox. But like I said the geek in me wants to see the technology. Sorry for.the long rant off topic