So... I recently got a replacement used Fascinate for my original unit that had a shattered screen. It has GeeWiz 4.2.2 loaded on it and I really like it. Damn near perfect... except for one thing and I'm not even sure/don't think it's the phone/ROM.
My texting issue is related to MMS. I can send any text... short, extended/pages long, picture texts (MMS) and I can receive all except long texts. And it's only an issue with my wife. She can write a book. LOL After doing more testing with other people, it seems to be a thing with Pageplus and Verizon. My wife is on Pageplus. I'm on Verizon...for now. My son is also on Verizon and has the same issue. I had a friend who is also on Pageplus send me a long text and it failed too. If I have someone on Verizon send me a extended text (over 140 characters) and comes thru fine. Only Pageplus customers seem to have the issue and it's only to my phone. I can have my wife send a long text to a friend who on Verizon and it goes thru fine.
The failure is on the senders side too. The senders phone will says failed to send. I don't get anything on my end. This is only to my phone.
I've searched and haven't found but a couple of references to a similar problem and no solutions. One possible thing that I haven't followed up on yet is this.... This phone was on Pageplus. I activated it on Verizon. Verizon shows no issues on their end at all but I'm wondering if Pageplus still has something in their system from the previous owner with this ESN. It's only Pageplus people that have this issue sending texts to my phone. They can send to other Verizon phones. And this is only long/extended texts that are 140 characters or more. Short texts and picture texts work fine. Oh....and if the sender attaches a pic to the long text, I will receive it.
It really weird. Wondering if anyone has seen anything similar or has any ideas. My next step is to call Pageplus support to see if they can help. I was also going to re-activate my old phone to verify the problem goes away. I welcome any insights.
Mike
PS - Sorry this is my first post. Can't believe I've been on this board this long and haven't posted before but this is a daily stop for me for years now.
Creepingdeath2 said:
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have you checked the settings in the "Messaging" app itself, seems I recall a converting sms to mms or some setting that deals with that...
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have you checked the settings in the "Messaging" app itself, seems I recall a converting sms to mms or some setting that deals with that...
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I thought that had more to do with outgoing texts than incoming but I will try it later and report back.
So I looked in the settings of stock texting app and it doesn't have the "convert long sms to mms" option but I'm running 8sms in Default mode, which basically just themes the stock app and adds a couple more setting/features....one of which IS "convert long sms to mms". It was doing this before I started using 8sms so it's not the app. I'll try the change and post back results.
I tried turning that option on but it had no effect. Open to other suggestions. Still need to call Page plus support yet too,
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maybe try a different ROM to make sure it's not just an issue with GeeWiz? roll back to a stock ROM and see if that fixes anything... also use the right ROM, you know, eh03 for vzw devices, etc.
Or possibly try another texting app or even hangouts will do sms/mms...
It sounds like page plus is possibly not splitting the message into 2 sms or not converting a long sms to a mms unless it explicitly contains a picture,,,
I would think that is software settings
That also could potentially be the sender's messaging app not converting it to mms and/or not splitting the message into 2 sms.
I know you said there were multiple people sending you stuff,, to they both have the same app?
Let me try to clarify the scenario....
My phone is a Fascinate with Geewiz 4.2.2 ROM activated on Verizon (for now LOL).
I have several people on Pageplus that can't send me an extended text message, meaning a text message over 140 characters. One is an iPhone 4, one is a Fascinate on Superclean ROM, and the last is a Fascinate on Geewiz 2.9. If any of them try to send me a message that longer than 140 characters, it fails to send on THEIR end. I never see it. These same 3 people can send the exact same text that fails to other Verizon phones with no issue.
My phone was originally a Verizon phone that was then switched to Pageplus. When I got it, I put it back on Verizon.
It seems to me that this is an issue with Pageplus, almost like there's some information in their system still that sees my phone as inactive and refuses to send it. The texts fails on the senders end almost like they don't have service. I need to take a chunk of time and call Pageplus support and see if this is even a possibility. Regular texts and picture messages sent from those same phones DO make it thru. I can send all forms of SMS/MMS with no issues. It's only receiving and only from Pageplus customers. If a Verizon customer sends me an extended text, it comes thru no problem.
I would think if it's the ROM, the problem would be evident regardless of the carrier the message was sent from. How could a ROM single out a specific message from a specific carrier? I'm not saying it's possible but it seems like this is a system issue on Pageplus side.
Thanks for the suggestions. It helps validate the steps I've taken and my thought process to solve it.
Well, I spent about 2hrs on the phone between Pageplus and Verizon tech support. Each blamed the other for the issue but ultimately Verizon is looking into it. Made to Level 3 support for whatever that is worth. Supposed to get a call back after they pour thru whatever they have to look thru. We'll see. They all agree that if the phone can receive EMS texts (Verizons extended text message protocol), the phone itself can't distinguish between carriers. The settings for each are the same. Since Pageplus and Verizon use the same system/network, it SHOULD work and can't really be my device. It's something on one of their networks.
Oh... and nobody has ever heard of something like this ever happening....which gives me great confidence that it will get resolved... LOL
Latest... tech support has been less than helpful... SURPRISE! LOL
They said that my phone is rejecting the messages but can't explain how Verizon Extended messages get thru but not Pageplus...which uses the exact same system. Not sure what else to do than maybe try a different ROM to see if it really is Geewiz or not...or maybe swap a device on the account too.
Creepingdeath2 said:
Latest... tech support has been less than helpful... SURPRISE! LOL
They said that my phone is rejecting the messages but can't explain how Verizon Extended messages get thru but not Pageplus...which uses the exact same system. Not sure what else to do than maybe try a different ROM to see if it really is Geewiz or not...or maybe swap a device on the account too.
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I would definitely try other roms... Not surprised about Verizon support lol...
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I'm receiving double text messages now on a lot of my text messages I receive. It doesn't seem to matter who the text message is from. It's happened after I upgraded the Radio, DCD ROM, and Bootloader to the latest versions below. I don't know if that's what caused it or if there is something wrong with the Verizon Service and I should call Verizon. Can anybody help me with this? Thank you!
Apota said:
I'm receiving double text messages now on a lot of my text messages I receive. It doesn't seem to matter who the text message is from. It's happened after I upgraded the Radio, DCD ROM, and Bootloader to the latest versions below. I don't know if that's what caused it or if there is something wrong with the Verizon Service and I should call Verizon. Can anybody help me with this? Thank you!
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Must be you. I haven't had any problems. I would call them and see if it's on their end.
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Must be you. I haven't had any problems. I would call them and see if it's on their end.
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It is definitely on their end...happens on Sprint to randomly....wont do a lot to call though as they don't have a clue as to why it happens,,,,,you will get the run around...."everything is fine on our end",,,lol
I know i have had this happen to me on alltel a couple times normally give it a couple days and the issue resolves itself no real point in calling CS they will just walk you through a bunch of stuff that have nothing to do with the issue
Are you using HTC home, by any chance? I've had this issue quite a few times before. I haven't had any dupe text messages after I uninstalled HTC Home - Just a thought.
No, but I'm using HTC Homeplug 1.12.0.0, but it was installed via the Kitchen, so I don't think it can be uninstalled. I guess I'll wait a week or so and if it keeps happening I'll contact Verizon if it does. Thanks.
BenjeeNy said:
Are you using HTC home, by any chance? I've had this issue quite a few times before. I haven't had any dupe text messages after I uninstalled HTC Home - Just a thought.
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It's still happening but not as often as it was doing it. I complained to them a while ago about getting email notifications as a SMS everytime I got a new hotmail email message. I wonder if they did something while they were working on this complaint. The SMS was from OZMail wish is a Verizon applicaton for email that I used, but stopped using. Well, I guess I will call them and see what they say.
My friend got a TB and can't send or receive pictures via mms. He gets the exact same message as a poster on a different forum:
"I just wanted to throw this out there as I have not found a solution...
I've had my Thunderbolt for like a week and a half now and for the majority its been great. Starting about yesterday, I've been unable to send or receive MMS/picture messages.
If someone sends me one, I get a little note in my conversation that says "so and so" is trying to send a message and lets me choose download or delete. This seems new to me, I don't remember seeing this notification in my text convo. If I choose download, it shows a little icon with a clock in it, as its trying to download the picture. After about 5 minutes, I get a notification that it failed because of a generic network failure.
A similar thing happens if I try to send a message to someone with a picture in it. My regular texting works fine and I can go on the internet perfectly. I've tried sending messages with WiFi and/or Mobile Data on/off... doesn't seem to make a difference.
Called VZW last night and they took me through battery pulls, SIM card pulls, and whatnot... didn't fix the problem. They were checking things on their end but did not see an issue. The last woman I got gave me two options, 1, she could open a network tix for me or 2, I could go to store and do a phone swap as I'm in my converage period. I told her to put in the tix for now, and perhaps I'd swap this weekend.
Anyone have any idea what is going on?"
So far nobody has answered. He's using stock rom, and the stock messaging settings / handcent settings match the way they are set on my Evo. If anybody could help it would be greatly appreciated.
is it on 3G or 4G? MMS will not work unless your in data coverage
Does not work on 3g, 4g, or Wi-fi.
what about sending it through regular messaging? I couldn't tell if he is using Handcent or using regular messaging. How about uninstalling Handcent?
The problem persists with or without handcent.
Make sure the picture being sent is not too big. If this doesn't do it you may have to call Verizon about it. Going back a few years I had an issue with my dumb phone. Couldn't receive picks. They had to reset my account. Also some providers don't always send pic messages so well to verizon. Have your friend have some on on Verizon send him a pic.
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Everything else works fine but I can not send or receive text messages. Message center phone number is set to 13123149810. Any ideas on what could be wrong. phone is stock setup
When you get phone?
Error message when send?
You try update profile?
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got phone yesterday at best buy, no error message, recipient just never receives the text. This is my first android, how do i update profile?
You might just call AT&T and make sure your account settings are right. For some reason, the Note is a little different setup on the back end for AT&T than a lot of other devices - particularly if you're moving from a non-LTE phone and the guys at BB may not have setup your account correctly. Still seems a little odd everything else would work right. I always thought it was an all or nothing kind of thing but who knows.
ok, thanks for your help
So I hope there isn't already a ton of threads for this. I look around and found nothing, anyways I have a Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant rooted to ICS passion 13.1 and it uses the 3.1.10_ICS_KissYum_yum_good #1 Kernel. I rooted this phone from Froyo 2.2 down to Eclir then to CM7 and then ICS.
Anyways I think that is enough info but the issue I have is I cannot send or receive pictures via text. I used to be able to and I know the plan for Tmo supports it but even if I try to send one to myself all it does is say 'sending message'. I never get one in my inbox and it never gives the time of when it was delivered, or sent out. When someone else sends one to me, it shows the size of the file with a little button that says Download, next to it. Even if i turn wifi on and connect to my router then hit 'download' it doesn't do anything. I don't have the Data plan but I don't think that would cause the issue would it?
I wanted to know if I am the only one having this issue and if I am not smart enough to see the issue it if it is just a bug in general. I recently figured out how to take screen shots so I can provide those to help my vague description.
I will work on getting those. I would like to have this fixed if I can in case my family sends me pictures.
Thanks.
To send and recieve MMS you have to turn on data transfer.
Mms will not work over wifi. It needs the carrier data accessible
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So i looked and i guess there was a thread about an SMS error describing my issue. And the person just replaced his SIM card and it worked. I guess if it is cheap/free i will try that.
My phones sms is all borked out. Phone is completely stock, unrootedx with the latest ota update.
My sms are ALWAYS timestamped wrong which seriously ****s with my ocd. Sent will he fine but received are always hours behind or ahead.
Also lately, phone won't send me my sms all day and then bam!! 12 messages all at once.
I have fine reception, never roaming, full bars of 3G almost always. What gives???
tawnyoc said:
My phones sms is all borked out. Phone is completely stock, unrootedx with the latest ota update.
My sms are ALWAYS timestamped wrong which seriously ****s with my ocd. Sent will he fine but received are always hours behind or ahead.
Also lately, phone won't send me my sms all day and then bam!! 12 messages all at once.
I have fine reception, never roaming, full bars of 3G almost always. What gives???
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Are you using the AirRave (network extender) while at home? I am, and its been messing with my text messages since I switched to sprint. Doesn't matter which phone (OG Evo, Evo lte, Epic). Time stamps are screwy, duplicates sent, and sometimes it cuts the 1st half of my message off which makes my texts look like I'm crazy... lol... Only happens when I'm connected to the AirRave at home though...
I've had this sort of thing happen to me two or three times over the last 5+ years with Sprint. It was incredibly irritating, but it did go away on it's own after about two days. If it's happening to you for longer than that... I'd be concerned. And to second the above post, if you're using an Airave, all bets are off when it comes to text messages. I'm currently a month into back and forth phone calls to Sprint about getting mine replaced to see if that fixes my sms issue.
Use ICS tranquility and your timestamps will NEVER be wrong.
Not using Airrave.. its been going on for about two weeks now o__o
Thanks for the tip on ics tranquility, will definitely check it out!!
maybe this will work
I had this happen to me just a couple days ago, but I was not receiving or able to send sms at all. I went into a sprint store and the rep told me he had to call in to have my text messaging codes reset. So he called in and reset it and it worked! He said you should be able to do it over the phone, just don't be on your phone, or on chat.
Sense is completely messing with my SMS messages. Mine come in under the wrong number.
If I text a lot and delete some messages, the next person to text me comes in as the last person I deleted.
In the stock SMS app I can see it come in under the wrong person then quickly change to the right.
If I use Chomp or Go SMS Pro, it stays under the wrong person unless I kill the app and restart it. My texts are constantly going to the wrong people, and to my friends Facebook posts.
I've had this problem with every build thus far. I've wiped, RUU'd...still does it.
My friend is running Meanrom, it does it on his. Doesn't seem to do it on ROMs without Sense.
Someone else has to have noticed this.
I've never had any of this happen, nor have I ever heard of the texts messages being labeled as coming from the wrong contact. If it happens with other messaging apps, why do you think it's sense?
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I've never had any of this happen, nor have I ever heard of the texts messages being labeled as coming from the wrong contact. If it happens with other messaging apps, why do you think it's sense?
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In my original post I said it happens with the stock app.
Its more of a problem with third party apps because they don't work the same way the stock app does. So when the message is displayed wrong for that brief second it grabs that. If I kill and restart third party app, the message changes back to the right person.
The reason I think its sense is because sense handles the messaging on these phones, and the problem cannot be replicated on a senseless rom. I can duplicate this problem on a rooted phone with meanrom. What are the odds chomp sms and go sms pro would have the exact same bug? Both of them rely on the core sms framework for data, so whatever is messing with them is happening in core. I've got a post about this over at sprint and it seems to be picking up a little steam. A fee more people.are crawling out of the woodwork with this problem.
if handcent is that third party app u using it will always do it .something is wrong with that app .use go sms