OK, so I bought an Xperia Z Ultra a few days ago, and I ensured it was a unlockable device, after owning all my previous Xperia phones unlocked.
The main reason I was unlocking before on my previous Z, S and T was because battery savings, meaning custom kernel undervolting, and several battery friendly moded stock kernel options. And of course, some easy rooting, mainly for changing the ugly high dpi the Z has, and have some real screen state, not big clunky icons, fonts and stuff on a 5" display.
I never been attracted to CM and or PAC for that matter either, because they break too many things to even consider them my daily drivers IMHO, and with the arrival of the Snapdragon 800 chipsets speed is never an issue, unlike before on weak handsets like S and X10 on which a custom rom did wonders for the performance.
On the Z Ultra, on the other hand, battery life is proving itself to be outstanding, way more than I expected it to be, as I was afraid the 3000mah battery wasn't gonna cut it due to screen to battery size ratio. Standard dpi is also excellent, alongside kit kat performace. Also, having a quick look on the development section, there isn't too much going on, unlike the Z, I can't seem to find a completely stock kernel that has just undervolting and some recovery options, heck, I don't recall there being a stock based kernel at all.
So, what's your main reason for unlocking this precise device?
Also, how the battery life on stock rom compares to Google Play edition?
DrKrFfXx said:
OK, so I bought an Xperia Z Ultra a few days ago, and I ensured it was a unlockable device, after owning all my previous Xperia phones unlocked.
The main reason I was unlocking before on my previous Z, S and T was because battery savings, meaning custom kernel undervolting, and several battery friendly moded stock kernel options. And of course, some easy rooting, mainly for changing the ugly high dpi the Z has, and have some real screen state, not big clunky icons, fonts and stuff on a 5" display.
I never been attracted to CM and or PAC for that matter either, because they break too many things to even consider them my daily drivers IMHO, and with the arrival of the Snapdragon 800 chipsets speed is never an issue, unlike before on weak handsets like S and X10 on which a custom rom did wonders for the performance.
On the Z Ultra, on the other hand, battery life is proving itself to be outstanding, way more than I expected it to be, as I was afraid the 3000mah battery wasn't gonna cut it due to screen to battery size ratio. Standard dpi is also excellent, alongside kit kat performace. Also, having a quick look on the development section, there isn't too much going on, unlike the Z, I can't seem to find a completely stock kernel that has just undervolting and some recovery options, heck, I don't recall there being a stock based kernel at all.
So, what's your main reason for unlocking this precise device?
Also, how the battery life on stock rom compares to Google Play edition?
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The only need to unlock bootloader is to install the custom room set or custom kernel, but I'm like you and find the stock Sony experience ticks all the boxes I'm interested in. They've done a great job with the stock rom.
Guess the main appeal is for the gpe build.
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SpyderTracks said:
The only need to unlock bootloader is to install the custom room set or custom kernel, but I'm like you and find the stock Sony experience ticks all the boxes I'm interested in. They've done a great job with the stock rom.
Guess the main appeal is for the gpe build.
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its funny you guys are trying to get the gee rom and I'm trying to get away from it.
So, what's your main reason for unlocking this precise device?
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It makes rooting incredible easy. Are you on KitKat? Just flash Jackie's kernel and flash SuperSU. Done. I also like to change ROMs and environments once in awhile, so i typically flash between stock and the GPe ROM, which brings me to....
Also, how the battery life on stock rom compares to Google Play edition?
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It's quite good actually. The GPe ROM doesn't have Stamina, so you have to be a little careful with IM services and stuff like that, but it's not bad at all.
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its funny you guys are trying to get the gee rom and I'm trying to get away from it.
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That's the thing with "Nexus'" (Nexi?). Want a different ROM environment? Too bad. You're stuck with AOSP. Got the original Ultra? You got two environments to choose from. Stock Sony and AOSP, so when you get bored with one of them, you can easily swap. That's one thing that's scarying me away from the Nexus-line. And we also have the GPe version which means that the GPe will get 4.5/5.0 early, and we'll be able to just flash it (after some minor modifications).
I guess it's possible to get a Sony ROM running on the GPe version, but there aren't that many devs around here, so stuff like that will take a fair bit of time. Just hang in there though!
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It makes rooting incredible easy. Are you on KitKat? Just flash Jackie's kernel and flash SuperSU. Done. I also like to change ROMs and environments once in awhile, so i typically flash between stock and the GPe ROM, which brings me to....
It's quite good actually. The GPe ROM doesn't have Stamina, so you have to be a little careful with IM services and stuff like that, but it's not bad at all.
That's the thing with "Nexus'" (Nexi?). Want a different ROM environment? Too bad. You're stuck with AOSP. Got the original Ultra? You got two environments to choose from. Stock Sony and AOSP, so when you get bored with one of them, you can easily swap. That's one thing that's scarying me away from the Nexus-line. And we also have the GPe version which means that the GPe will get 4.5/5.0 early, and we'll be able to just flash it (after some minor modifications).
I guess it's possible to get a Sony ROM running on the GPe version, but there aren't that many devs around here, so stuff like that will take a fair bit of time. Just hang in there though!
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i more or less want the xperia apps and i've already bricked one gee trying to root so i won't be trying again until theres a dummy guide for myself. unfortunately googles choices for media suck and i feel like the xperia integration will work a lot better for me.
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i more or less want the xperia apps and i've already bricked one gee trying to root so i won't be trying again until theres a dummy guide for myself. unfortunately googles choices for media suck and i feel like the xperia integration will work a lot better for me.
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Well that's a lot easier. The Sony KitKat apps are all over the place her at XDA, so just find and install them. I did it myself when I ran the GPe ROM and it worked just fine. You may have to adjust the DPI, but that's not an issue.
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Well that's a lot easier. The Sony KitKat apps are all over the place her at XDA, so just find and install them. I did it myself when I ran the GPe ROM and it worked just fine. You may have to adjust the DPI, but that's not an issue.
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Fair enough I've found a few and also a few that won't install I've looked for a stock camera apk and a few others I couldn't get to install without root.
I doubt the camera will work, but Album, Movies, Walkman and all those works fine (or so they should)
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I doubt the camera will work, but Album, Movies, Walkman and all those works fine (or so they should)
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Yea couldn't find a camera apk but I do have the others but did have to find an older movies apk that would actually work. My situation is that I was looking forward to trying xperia out but also wanted the 6806 model but came across a great deal for the gpe and forgot that it wouldn't have xperia on it.
Hi all,
just jumped from my Mega 6.3 to ZU, and it's been ages I've had a sony device (Arc, I think ), but the price I found it at was just too good to pass.
Now, I've been reading the various threads about downgrading FW then up again, and so on...
I have to say I am usually not afraid of that stuff, but this time I've got really no waranty, and I'm too concerned about breaking something. I already officialy upgraded to KK.
So My question : unlocking the bootloader will make me lose the DRM keys, BUT will also allow me to bipass all the downgrade stuff and jump on custom KK roms? (of course, flashing custom reco and stuff first!)
I must say i do not care for the Bravia engine and others.
Thanks to let me know
Edit : probably LordManathan answered my question :
It makes rooting incredible easy. Are you on KitKat? Just flash Jackie's kernel and flash SuperSU. Done. I also like to change ROMs and environments once in awhile, so i typically flash between stock and the GPe ROM, which brings me to....
That's fine then?
kipue said:
Hi all,
just jumped from my Mega 6.3 to ZU, and it's been ages I've had a sony device (Arc, I think ), but the price I found it at was just too good to pass.
Now, I've been reading the various threads about downgrading FW then up again, and so on...
I have to say I am usually not afraid of that stuff, but this time I've got really no waranty, and I'm too concerned about breaking something. I already officialy upgraded to KK.
So My question : unlocking the bootloader will make me lose the DRM keys, BUT will also allow me to bipass all the downgrade stuff and jump on custom KK roms? (of course, flashing custom reco and stuff first!)
I must say i do not care for the Bravia engine and others.
Thanks to let me know
Edit : probably LordManathan answered my question :
It makes rooting incredible easy. Are you on KitKat? Just flash Jackie's kernel and flash SuperSU. Done. I also like to change ROMs and environments once in awhile, so i typically flash between stock and the GPe ROM, which brings me to....
That's fine then?
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I guess you still need to downgrade and root to backup TA partition before you unlock the bootloader and flash jackie's kernel.
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I guess you still need to downgrade and root to backup TA partition before you unlock the bootloader and flash jackie's kernel.
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Haha, yeah... I was hoping I wouldn't have to really care about the TA partition!
Aside from losing DRM keys, is there any other issue?
Thanks for you quick answer!
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I kept reading (yes I do read the forums a lot before and after a question, haha!) and I read that unlocking the bootloader on an official KK rom will not break x-reality ? Is that correct?
kipue said:
Haha, yeah... I was hoping I wouldn't have to really care about the TA partition!
Aside from losing DRM keys, is there any other issue?
Thanks for you quick answer!
Edit:
I kept reading (yes I do read the forums a lot before and after a question, haha!) and I read that unlocking the bootloader on an official KK rom will not break x-reality ? Is that correct?
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There should not be any other issue. Personally I have never had good experiences with rooting and installing custom kernels/roms. Stock ROM's are always best (just disable bloatware apps, no need to delete them).
X-reality is not disabled on KK after unlocking. But you can always add xpose modules custom bravia etc after rooting.
The only reason that I might root my ZU is for 'SD card functionality' which I hope Sony re-enable in a future update.
Here sign this 'Petitioning Sony Mobile'
https://www.change.org/petitions/so...ed-to-all-our-sony-phones-via-software-update
manigma said:
There should not be any other issue. Personally I have never had good experiences with rooting and installing custom kernels/roms. Stock ROM's are always best (just disable bloatware apps, no need to delete them).
X-reality is not disabled on KK after unlocking. But you can always add xpose modules custom bravia etc after rooting.
The only reason that I might root my ZU is for 'SD card functionality' which I hope Sony re-enable in a future update.
Here sign this 'Petitioning Sony Mobile'
https://www.change.org/petitions/so...ed-to-all-our-sony-phones-via-software-update
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Cool.
I'll also keep it stock for a week or so, to enjoy it properly, then the flashing finger will start to hitch again
Will take it from here, thanks for taking the time to answer to me
kipue said:
Cool.
I'll also keep it stock for a week or so, to enjoy it properly, then the flashing finger will start to hitch again
Will take it from here, thanks for taking the time to answer to me
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If you aren't worried about the DRM keys the I would just unlock the BL. The DRM keys are needed for netflix and track ID and maybe some other things?
blueether said:
If you aren't worried about the DRM keys the I would just unlock the BL. The DRM keys are needed for netflix and track ID and maybe some other things?
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My research pointed to that too, those DRM keys are actually pretty limited in scope (for me).
The biggest thing to lose is the Bravia engine, since that affects the phone in a more general way. But as I read, if unlocking the bootloader when on official Kitkat, the keys are no longer affected.
Well, I guess better safe than sorry, and I'll try to backup the TA partition anyway ^^
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The biggest thing to lose is the Bravia engine
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Are you sure? I would think that your warranty is the most important thing to keep intact, no? Let's say you just drop backing up the TA partition and you run into some hardware issues that can't be fixed by flashing. What do you do? Throw it into the nearest river? Pay $XXX to fix it? Or, just restore the backup?
It's pretty easy and straight forward. Downgrade to 532, root, backup TA, update to 681 (KitKat) again, and do whatever you want.
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Are you sure? I would think that your warranty is the most important thing to keep intact, no? Let's say you just drop backing up the TA partition and you run into some hardware issues that can't be fixed by flashing. What do you do? Throw it into the nearest river? Pay $XXX to fix it? Or, just restore the backup?
It's pretty easy and straight forward. Downgrade to 532, root, backup TA, update to 681 (KitKat) again, and do whatever you want.
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Yep, you are right of course, but this device I've got has no waranty. Well, gray market waranty at any rate where I guess they don't check the bootloader state, and any breakage will have to be paid at full price.
I will do the backup, just to be sure, as I concluded in my post
Thanks for all the advice!
kipue said:
Yep, you are right of course, but this device I've got has no waranty. Well, gray market waranty at any rate where I guess they don't check the bootloader state, and any breakage will have to be paid at full price.
I will do the backup, just to be sure, as I concluded in my post
Thanks for all the advice!
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Ahh, I see. Well, I guess you're free to do whatever you feel like then
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Hi,
I've had android devices for years and always kept them locked and stocked.
I've not got an Nexus 10 and was wondering is it actually worth rooting the thing and loading a custom rom?
Will I actually gain anything except be able to change where the home button is?
All thoughts welcome!
THanks in Advance.
If nothing else I would root it. That gives you the option of using programs like Titanium Backup to backup apps and install a custom recovery and have the ability to back up your whole device.
As far as custom ROMS go that's a personal choice. Right now there are not allot out due to the newness of the device, but I'm sure that will change very quickly as Devs stat getting it.
I would root to gain access to titanium back up and ad blockers but beside that there aren't that many great custom roms out there. Stock doesn't have bloatware or any common pitfalls of stock.
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If you are tech savvy, I would highly suggest all 3. You can improve things like battery life by undervolting the CPU and GPU, changing to more conservative governors, and having applications automatically shut off your wifi when your tablet turns off (can't remember if you can do that one without root).
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Yeah, i agree with above opinion. You need to learn things before rooting your tablet. You can check out many rooting videos on YouTube channel to learn about that more easily. Besides, many Google Play apps are free to play.
Check out qbking77 videos on youtube and you will get a how to on the rooting process
Ad blocking is one of the top ten reasons to own any Android device. Root is a vital part of the XDA experience.
It is seriously addictive playing around with different kernels and roms and root apps after you make that first plunge and learn how to do it just be prepared for a little frustration at first. Its very hard to find guides that don't assume you already know the terminology and general techniques! But after that first time, its easy
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KestrelX said:
It is seriously addictive playing around with different kernels and roms and root apps after you make that first plunge and learn how to do it just be prepared for a little frustration at first. Its very hard to find guides that don't assume you already know the terminology and general techniques! But after that first time, its easy
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So true, its fun and very addictive flashing different stuff on your device. You can also apply themes after rooting
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I was on the fence until i realized the advantages in battery life. I went ahead and did it and havent looked back yet. :good:
You get usb otg support with a rooted device which is crucial for the 16 gb version.
At the same time you dont lose anything when rooting. Especially the nexus 10 is intended to be rooted painlessly and you can revert the whole process too if need be
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You get usb otg support with a rooted device which is crucial for the 16 gb version.
At the same time you dont lose anything when rooting. Especially the nexus 10 is intended to be rooted painlessly and you can revert the whole process too if need be
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There is an app so you can use OTG without having root, called nexus media importer. Though you have to buy it.
Yes it is, ParanoidAndroid is well worth it. Plus titanium backup and all that good stuff.
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EvoYas said:
Yes it is, ParanoidAndroid is well worth it. Plus titanium backup and all that good stuff.
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How so exactly? I'm probably wrong, but I only figured PA to only really be useful either if you want to switch between tablet or phone UI on certain apps, and Tablet UI.
Hmm....
Interesting, thanks for the info.
I've got Nexus Media Importer and that's a godsend as I've got the 16gb.
The problem I have now is that I've been using my N10 since November and have just got it the way I like it.
Is there a way to back it up before it gets wiped when I unlock the bootloader?
Also, If I root will I be able to get OTA updates; I want to stick with stock for now.
Thanks in advance
I rooted mine to isse adblock and titanim backup, I will not be flashing another ROM in a good while, I want OTA and the tablet runs really well on stock
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Pharmbob said:
Hmm....
Interesting, thanks for the info.
I've got Nexus Media Importer and that's a godsend as I've got the 16gb.
The problem I have now is that I've been using my N10 since November and have just got it the way I like it.
Is there a way to back it up before it gets wiped when I unlock the bootloader?
Also, If I root will I be able to get OTA updates; I want to stick with stock for now.
Thanks in advance
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There is a way to backup most of the stuff you have on your tablet. It won't be a 1:1 copy tho. You will not get OTA updates but you can alwyas easily flash to stock and get them. In your case i wouldnt recommend rooting the tablet. If you are curious though about the possibilities you might unlock you should at least try it
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There is a way to backup most of the stuff you have on your tablet. It won't be a 1:1 copy tho. You will not get OTA updates but you can alwyas easily flash to stock and get them. In your case i wouldnt recommend rooting the tablet. If you are curious though about the possibilities you might unlock you should at least try it
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Well, that's me rooted! I used the Qbking77 method and it was painless.
Now, what is the first thing (after back up) should I do?
espionage724 said:
How so exactly? I'm probably wrong, but I only figured PA to only really be useful either if you want to switch between tablet or phone UI on certain apps, and Tablet UI.
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Not the only thing you could do with PA - I have this flashed and LOVE it! this might be more of a personal thing but the ability to change your navbar color (battery, time, soft keys) per app is amazing! Again to each their own but I like this ROM on this tablet - I use the CM10 Nightlies on my phone as it suits it better.
To answer the OP - read as much as you can before you decide to Root and Flash - I believe all three is a must but I like to customize things.
Pharmbob said:
Well, that's me rooted! I used the Qbking77 method and it was painless.
Now, what is the first thing (after back up) should I do?
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Well now that you have root and a custom recovery you should try all the candy in this forum
Go to the nexus 10 rom section and try some roms. There are roms that change a whole lot like ParanoidAndroid and there are roms with more subtle changes (like mine).
Keep in mind that flashing a new rom will wipe anything on your tablet but its ok because you can make nandroid (complete) backups of your present state using the recovery.
Also i recommend you to try apps like GMD gesture control. It enables you to define custom gestures for nearly everything. (Comparable tp those on the ipad but more customizable)
just thinking if it's worth over stock. thanks
mrjayviper said:
just thinking if it's worth over stock. thanks
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+1
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An explanation as to why is better on the XTZ would be great. I've ran CM on almost all of my devices but I just don't really see any benefit to unlocking and putting CM or PAC on the XTZ.
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Right. You don't see it because in fact there isn't one.
At this time stock ROM 4.1.2 is clearly the best ROM for Tablet Z available, period.
Stock 4.2.2 -> s****y phablet UI, no more Small Apps shortcut, streaming seems to work worse in some cases...
CM, PAC etc. -> no GPS, no MHL/HDMI, no Small Apps, no inbuilt IR Blaster + remote.
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Right. You don't see it because in fact there isn't one.
At this time stock ROM 4.1.2 is clearly the best ROM for Tablet Z available, period.
Stock 4.2.2 -> s****y phablet UI, no more Small Apps shortcut, streaming seems to work worse in some cases...
CM, PAC etc. -> no GPS, no MHL/HDMI, no Small Apps, no inbuilt IR Blaster + remote.
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I've gone through all of the projects that I've seen over in the original development forum hoping for something to prove me otherwise, but the fact of the matter is that we've both come to the same conclusion.
Go to any rom that uses the phablet UI and the first thing I do is look for PIE. If it isn't an option, I switch over to the play store and download full!screen...
SmallApps (and the convenient shortcut) are huge. They're incredibly useful and the implementation is spot on. Get a few other smallapps from the play store, toy around with Aroma a little bit and you've got endless small apps.
CM, PAC etc --> No GPS. - Yup. A headache you bring on yourself. Fortunately there are ways to deal with it...
Tablet: (GPS over Bluetooth) ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Saenko.GpsOverBt&hl=en )
Phone: External GPS Receiver ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.meowsbox.btgps&hl=en )
No IR Blaster / Remote is loss that seems minor when you're giving it up, but that you wish you had as soon as your're on a custom rom.
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Don't get me wrong I love poking around and hoping to stumble upon some quality FOSS but, as far as ROMs are concerned, switching to anything besides 4.1.2 (exception with Ubuntu Touch since I haven't managed to get it going yet) is really a sacrifice in UX for what you think you want from a UI... until you realize that at 10 inches, you don't want a phone's UI.
zylstrajs said:
I've gone through all of the projects that I've seen over in the original development forum hoping for something to prove me otherwise, but the fact of the matter is that we've both come to the same conclusion.
Go to any rom that uses the phablet UI and the first thing I do is look for PIE. If it isn't an option, I switch over to the play store and download full!screen...
SmallApps (and the convenient shortcut) are huge. They're incredibly useful and the implementation is spot on. Get a few other smallapps from the play store, toy around with Aroma a little bit and you've got endless small apps.
CM, PAC etc --> No GPS. - Yup. A headache you bring on yourself. Fortunately there are ways to deal with it...
Tablet: (GPS over Bluetooth) ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Saenko.GpsOverBt&hl=en )
Phone: External GPS Receiver ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.meowsbox.btgps&hl=en )
No IR Blaster / Remote is loss that seems minor when you're giving it up, but that you wish you had as soon as your're on a custom rom.
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Don't get me wrong I love poking around and hoping to stumble upon some quality FOSS but, as far as ROMs are concerned, switching to anything besides 4.1.2 (exception with Ubuntu Touch since I haven't managed to get it going yet) is really a sacrifice in UX for what you think you want from a UI... until you realize that at 10 inches, you don't want a phone's UI.
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Best solution for choosing ROM:
- Backup your TA partition with "Backup TA"
- unlock bootloader
- backup your current rom with CWM
- try some roms for your self! Everyone uses his device a little different
- stay on the rom that suits you or restore your stock rom in cwm. You also need to flash the stock ftf again but exclude everything beside kernel.
- if you want warranty back restore your TA backup
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hasenbein1966 said:
Right. You don't see it because in fact there isn't one.
At this time stock ROM 4.1.2 is clearly the best ROM for Tablet Z available, period.
Stock 4.2.2 -> s****y phablet UI, no more Small Apps shortcut, streaming seems to work worse in some cases...
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I totally agree with you.
I am going to try to go back to 4.1.2. Though I have no experience flashing the Xperia Tablet Z (I have the LTE version).
Main problem with 4.1.2: Microphone not working properly. Any known solutions, without going to 4.2.2?
I personally switched to cm10.2 since I want multi user on the tablet so no way with stock 4.1.2 (4.2.2 is still not available for sgp311)
in cm you can use tsremote from app&themes forum here from xda: not good as Sony remote but looks very promising complete with a floating remote
om22 said:
Best solution for choosing ROM:
- Backup your TA partition with "Backup TA"
- unlock bootloader
- backup your current rom with CWM
- try some roms for your self! Everyone uses his device a little different
- stay on the rom that suits you or restore your stock rom in cwm. You also need to flash the stock ftf again but exclude everything beside kernel.
- if you want warranty back restore your TA backup
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Hold the phone, the way I understand it is there is NO way to get your warranty back once you've unlocked your BL because Sony revokes it once you enter all your info to unlock. I understand you can go completely back to stock if you back up the TA but I thought you could never get your warranty back after unlocking.
There was a BL unlock for some of the '11 devices that kept you from having to use Sony's method of unlocking but I haven't been able to find one for the XTZ.
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I have cm10.2 on my TF700 and don't mind the phone UI. Don't care for not being too connecT to my tv either.and I often watch on my tablet so ir blaster is useless to me.
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Hold the phone, the way I understand it is there is NO way to get your warranty back once you've unlocked your BL because Sony revokes it once you enter all your info to unlock. I understand you can go completely back to stock if you back up the TA but I thought you could never get your warranty back after unlocking.
There was a BL unlock for some of the '11 devices that kept you from having to use Sony's method of unlocking but I haven't been able to find one for the XTZ.
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So if you enter the info to unlock, and then change youre mind and don't do it, your stuffed anyway?
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So if you enter the info to unlock, and then change youre mind and don't do it, your stuffed anyway?
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Sony says they MAY charge additional fees if unlocked, I think they would do only if additional work has to be done to go back to stock as they suppose the tablet works correctly only with their firmware. Same thing happened to me with an HTC phone but they have not either seen the phone was not stock
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Riekr said:
Sony says they MAY charge additional fees if unlocked, I think they would do only if additional work has to be done to go back to stock as they suppose the tablet works correctly only with their firmware. Same thing happened to me with an HTC phone but they have not either seen the phone was not stock
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The way I understand it, from reading their terms and from other peoples posts, is that whatever happens if you unlock you completely lose your warranty.
Are you saying that this is not true?
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So if you enter the info to unlock, and then change youre mind and don't do it, your stuffed anyway?
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From my reading the terms and reading other peoples posts that's the way it seems, however there is contradictory information on it so let's see what the community has to say.
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I would say that the policy in place because of things which can arise as a result of the bootloader being unlocked, for example if the user installed a custom ROM, overclocked the device and the CPU burned out then it's the users fault and Sony shouldn't have to cover it. If the USB slot cover tears/falls off after 2 months of ownership it's clearly not related to the BL being unlocked and it would, from a PR point of view look bad if they denied warranty cover.
I'd say they would fix anything, but unlocking BL would incur additional costs because of the extra work involved (reflashing a factory image, changing the logic boards if it gets stuck in a boot loop, etc.)
EDIT: I wouldn't be surprised if the big warning and loss of warranty would be a deterrent to stop people from unlocking the BL and changing the ROM altogether
I have seen that official CM versions have been released:
SGP 52x: https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=castor
SGP 51x:https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=castor_windy
I am still using the (rooted) Sony stock firmware. I would prefer the look and feel of CM, but I hesitate to switch because the battery runtime and performance of the tablet is so awesome.
Has anybody tried out those official CM builds yet?
How is performance and battery runtime?
Any major bugs?
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Has anybody tried out those official CM builds yet?
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I'm trying.
I just have tried it out now
So far everything is looking great! Performance with ART is great, also is responsiveness.
Cannot say anything about battery runtime yet. But overall I prefer it over stock.
BabelHuber said:
I just have tried it out now
So far everything is looking great! Performance with ART is great, also is responsiveness.
Cannot say anything about battery runtime yet. But overall I prefer it over stock.
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I had a Motorola Xoom (since it was original released by Verizon) and had CM 11 and 4.4.4 on it. It worked beautifully even on hardware that old. I just picked up the Verizon Xperia Z2 tablet. I like it a lot but I do prefer CM 11. I haven't rooted yet as I am wading through all the forums trying to understand exactly the best way to root, install CWM or TWRP (I like TWRP better) and then load CM 11.
If you don't mind me asking... What model are you running? Was there a specific guide that you used to root? Are you using either CWM or TWRP?
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stupid question, but how the hell do you install this. i tried flashing it thru twrp (using nut dual recovery) for sgp 511, but i just got a black screen afterwords afterwords. i also couldn't reinstall my nut recovery after the flash, so i ended up having to flash back to stock, root, and install twrp and then flashed my original backup to get back the way i was.
i am really only interested in it if it makes touch responsiveness better cause at times i want to throw the thing out the window when it wont touch near where im touching it.
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I had a Motorola Xoom (since it was original released by Verizon) and had CM 11 and 4.4.4 on it. It worked beautifully even on hardware that old. I just picked up the Verizon Xperia Z2 tablet. I like it a lot but I do prefer CM 11. I haven't rooted yet as I am wading through all the forums trying to understand exactly the best way to root, install CWM or TWRP (I like TWRP better) and then load CM 11.
If you don't mind me asking... What model are you running? Was there a specific guide that you used to root? Are you using either CWM or TWRP?
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this will give you root and 3 bootable recoveries on stock rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785598
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If you don't mind me asking... What model are you running? Was there a specific guide that you used to root? Are you using either CWM or TWRP?
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I am using this CWM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708194
My device is an SGP512. After flashing CM, you automatically have root, you just need to enable it in the developer settings.
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stupid question, but how the hell do you install this. i tried flashing it thru twrp (using nut dual recovery) for sgp 511, but i just got a black screen afterwords afterwords. i also couldn't reinstall my nut recovery after the flash, so i ended up having to flash back to stock, root, and install twrp and then flashed my original backup to get back the way i was.
i am really only interested in it if it makes touch responsiveness better cause at times i want to throw the thing out the window when it wont touch near where im touching it.
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I installed CM11 like described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...2-tabletdevelopment-cm11-android-4-4-t2809793
Install instructions:
first time
- power off the phone:
- hold vol+ and plug usb to boot into fastboot (blu led)
- fastboot flash boot boot.img (from cm10 zip)
- fastboot reboot
- enter recovery, on boot led will be violet for 3'', during this period press vol+
- flash rom zip
- flash gapps zip
- wipe
- reboot
for update just flash rom zip from recovery
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I assume you did not flash the boot.img first...
Touch responsiveness is better with CM, I haven't had the stock ROM bugs. But battery runtime is a little bit better with stock, I guess this is because the screen is brighter when using CM with automatic brightness. I adjusted the brightness settings meanwhile, but it is too early to report results, I have to use it for a few days first.
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stupid question, but how the hell do you install this. i tried flashing it thru twrp (using nut dual recovery) for sgp 511, but i just got a black screen afterwords afterwords. i also couldn't reinstall my nut recovery after the flash, so i ended up having to flash back to stock, root, and install twrp and then flashed my original backup to get back the way i was.
i am really only interested in it if it makes touch responsiveness better cause at times i want to throw the thing out the window when it wont touch near where im touching it.
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this will give you root and 3 bootable recoveries on stock rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785598
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Did you unlock your boOtloader. If not you can only run stock kernel
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Finally running M9, all looks good to me.
Can't wait to try this, returning my Galaxy Tab Lag, I mean S, and going to order a Z2.
As I wrote elsewhere:
At the moment installing CM has no real advantages over using stock ROM, but some disadvantages.
Battery life is clearly better with stock; stock has way better audio (louder, clearer - via the built-in enhancers) over the internal speakers; stock has more built-in features.
I tested CM for some days, but there really was nothing which stock firmware .314 (with Xposed, of course) could not do or even do better.
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Can't wait to try this, returning my Galaxy Tab Lag, I mean S, and going to order a Z2.
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I'm using CM and preferring it over stock. Battery runtime is a little bit worse (at least with M9) , but it doesn't carry the Sony bloat (which I don't use anyways), supports ART and has the CM theme engine. Overall it's snappy and performs well.
But to each its own, stock isn't bad too.
Sony bloat? Titanium Backup, and there you go.
ART? It has been proven that ART brings NO speed advantage over Dalvik in pre-L Android. And you can't use Xposed anymore. So, using ART is not wise.
Theme engine? Superfluous.
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Sony bloat? Titanium Backup, and there you go.[/QUOTE
Yes, but you need to debloat after every update. I consider this to be annoying.
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ART? It has been proven that ART brings NO speed advantage over Dalvik in pre-L Android. And you can't use Xposed anymore. So, using ART is not wise.
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I don't need Xposed for CM, but I needed it for stock even to get an advanced reboot menu. Lots of settings which require Xposed at stock are included in CM per default.
Besides I switched back from ART to Dalvik meanwhile, still liking CM better.
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Come on, the first thing I did with my tablet was to install Nova launcher and Holo locker, because Sony's UI looks butt-ugly compared to AOSP!
The Sony themes are also a joke, CM with a good theme looks significantly better. I won't go back to stock for this alone.
But the final reason I switched to an AOSP - derivate were minor annoyances, like when copying an URL from a browser. CM does not have such little annoyances.
Regarding the battery runtime, CM is bright as hell after installation. You need to adjust the values manually. I lose between 1 and 2 hours of screen time with CM (9 to 10th instead of 11), so this is no deal breaker.
But of course you have to find the settings for adjusting the auto-brightness (brightness - settings - adjust), otherwise battery runtime in deed is low.
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because Sony's UI looks butt-ugly compared to AOSP!
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BS. Sony's UI is really elegant and modern. While the AOSP UI is aging.
You can say that YOU personally like the AOSP look better, but to call the Sony UI "butt-ugly" is pure BS.
You are of course entitled to prefer CM just because of the looks (this is what it boils down to...) while dispensing with features and battery time - just like anyone is entitled to what he wants - but smart it isn't.
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BS. Sony's UI is really elegant and modern. While the AOSP UI is aging.
You can say that YOU personally like the AOSP look better, but to call the Sony UI "butt-ugly" is pure BS.
You are of course entitled to prefer CM just because of the looks (this is what it boils down to...) while dispensing with features and battery time - just like anyone is entitled to what he wants - but smart it isn't.
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I don't want to be part of a flame war here, so I won't comment on your BS about smartness.
Honestly, if you like the mess of Sony's UI, just use it. CM with a good L theme is light years ahead IMO.
Also, you conveniently ignore the parts where I mention stuff like no bloat, more options (with no need for Xposed), missing annoyances of stock and snappyness/performance.
The additional 'features' of the stock ROM are completely useless for me. They are just unnecessary bloat in my case.
I personally don't give a rat's ass about one hour of screen time more or less when we talk about 10h! Then I charge the battery with 20% instead of 30%. So what?
Of course you are entitled to have a different opinion, and that's why different ROMs exist in the first place. Just don't act like your choice is the only sensible one for everybody, please!
been on cm for awhile now and I like it.. but just gone back to stock to try out the new update.. i agree stock is irritating for me its just that little bit laggier than cm..... typing, changing browser tabs, flicking between apps. cm is definitely just that bit quicker...
going to stick on stock for abit longer(yes battery is good but its not bad in cm).. Thinking of going back...
anyway the jurys out..
i want sony to make it as fluent as cm. then ill stick i recon.
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Sony bloat? Titanium Backup, and there you go.
ART? It has been proven that ART brings NO speed advantage over Dalvik in pre-L Android. And you can't use Xposed anymore. So, using ART is not wise.
Theme engine? Superfluous.
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Hey, nexus user here, Google velocity rom, they proved that it does
*patting your head* Of cooouurse.... :laugh:
Off topic, art truly is faster, the problem on many non nexus devices is the implementation
I'm back on CM again, tried the new stock for a week. But on my tab it's just too frustrating(typing and the occasional double tap in browsers) which barely happens on CM it's just smoother and yes double tap to turn on works nicely and the speakers are nice and loud.
I ordered the Z Ultra GPe from Expansys for 334.99 w/ free shipping. It's being delivered tomorrow. I didn't do much research on the difference between the GPe and the Sony version. From what I'm seeing now, most people are saying the Sony version is the way to go. I've been using a Nexus 4 since it was released and I've been completely happy with it. I'm not really into rooting/flashing/custom ROMs anymore. The white c6806 is 349.99 with a free SD card and shipping at B&H Photo. I thought about ordering that and just sending the GPe back to Expansys without ever opening it. Am I really going to be missing much from the Sony version aside from the color (I would have preferred white but I'll have a case on it anyway)? I know there are some Sony apps and such that people find useful on the Sony version. Is that about it?
If you are happy with the nexus then you will like the gpe
You will be happy when the GPE gets the KitKat Lollipop before the Xperia series. Well have to wait for Z3, Z2 and Z1 to get em then the Ultra. I use to have the nexus 5 and I got so use to quick updates and I assume you would have the same itch.
I'm also a recently new GPE owner coming from the N4. Same deal on Expansys, btw :good:
I've been quite happy with it, overall. Definitely no regrets, but as a self-proclaimed flashaholic, I must admit that I'm a bit disappointed in the lack of development on the GPE. Then again, I've always been a big fan of AOSP. Nexus, GPE, or otherwise - I always find myself using a stock-ish ROM. That said, if you liked stock Android on the Nexus 4, you'll feel right at home with the GPE. If you're not intending to root or flash custom ROMs, the GPE is probably the better choice in your case, IMO.
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I'm also a recently new GPE owner coming from the N4. Same deal on Expansys, btw :good:
I've been quite happy with it, overall. Definitely no regrets, but as a self-proclaimed flashaholic, I must admit that I'm a bit disappointed in the lack of development on the GPE. Then again, I've always been a big fan of AOSP. Nexus, GPE, or otherwise - I always find myself using a stock-ish ROM. That said, if you liked stock Android on the Nexus 4, you'll feel right at home with the GPE. If you're not intending to root or flash custom ROMs, the GPE is probably the better choice in your case, IMO.
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I've had it two days now and I'm really happy with it. Its exactly what I wanted. A bigger, faster nexus 4 with more storage. Great deal too. I'm glad I didn't second guess myself. I'm not really into flashing much anymore and I love stock android so it worked out.
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I've had it two days now and I'm really happy with it. Its exactly what I wanted. A bigger, faster nexus 4 with more storage. Great deal too. I'm glad I didn't second guess myself. I'm not really into flashing much anymore and I love stock android so it worked out.
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Rooting is a pretty simple chore, which would allow the use of xposed modules. If you haven't looked into them you may be surprised at the amount of customization it will allow.
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Rooting is a pretty simple chore, which would allow the use of xposed modules. If you haven't looked into them you may be surprised at the amount of customization it will allow.
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I'm not familiar with xposed. I haven't rooted anything since my Nexus One. What general benefits am I going to gain if you don't mind answering?
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I'm not familiar with xposed. I haven't rooted anything since my Nexus One. What general benefits am I going to gain if you don't mind answering?
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There are tons of "modules" that work with xposed "framework", some that I use are.
1. Advanced power menu- gives reboot options plus screenshot from power button.
2. Xperia/AOSP NAVBAR BUTTONS- allows up to four soft buttons with custom icons and ability to reorder them.
3.NlpUnbounce- sets longer interval for location services scanning.
4.Gravity Box- change battery icon and use center clock with day of week ( has way more functions but that's what I use)
Others I have tried are.
1. Tabletkat - gives tablet UI.
2. Xblast-tweaks and customizing.
That doesn't even scratch the surface of what is available.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules
Edit... Have a look at the index sticky thread at top of forum for an idea of what it has to offer.
Edit #2.... From my experience uninstalled framework reverts everything to stock allowing you to take ota updates then reinstalling after rooting will bring back your setup.
I have the non-gpe version and am always thinking that it could perform a little faster if i could just turn ART (android run time) on for better compiled applications. However the sony version just doesnt have that option. I personally dont care about ANY of the custom Sony apps except their keyboard with number keys row and found the camera apps fun overlays very amusing but stopped using them.. im very close to flashing the device and took stock of what i will be losing and for me it would be those two things. I just want to get rid of some of the lag that im experiencing or perhaps i need to wait for android L to arrive.
The xperia KB can be installed I believe or I use the hacker's KB
So my LG G4 finally decided to exhale its last breath. I had a blast with it and learned all the basics about flashing custom ROMs; I unlocked the bootloader, flashed TWRP and installed various CM based ROMs and I had to solve some bootloops too.
Eventually I grew tired of having to install custom ROMs in order to experience the "pure Android experience": first of all I voided the warranty and secondly I lost the full camera's functionality.
That's why I decided to buy a Nexus 6P (Pixel phones are too expensive, I don't like the Moto Z's design and the OP3 is out of stock).
Is there anything I should know about my new 6P?
Will 7.1 be on its way soon (out of developer preview)?
Let's say I'll decide to try out CM14.1, will that void the warranty? Are there risks of bootloops caused by software flashing? Are there ways to return to stock and to relock the bootloader? Does unlocking the bootloader void the warranty?
Thanks guys, take care!
Welcome to the 6P forum dude, I'll try to answer all your questions
1-We should get 7.1 like a week or two after it's out (I mean the OTA) and the factory images *should* be available the same day of the release. Or at least that was how it worked until now, we'll have to wait and see what happens now that the Pixel phones are out.
2-If you flash a custom ROM, yes it will void your warranty, but you can always flash a factory image and then relock the bootloader and have your phone 100% stock, and I'm not sure if this makes you recover your warranty but I'd say yes it does. I would wait for other people's posts to be sure about this though.
3-Yes, there is risk of bootloops if you flash the wrong stuff or if you don't follow each ROM/KERNEL/Whateveryoureflashing.zip instructions. But as long as you flash stable roms I don't think you'll have any problem, and in case of you having a bootloop, just flash another rom or a Google factory image, as easy as that.
As long as you return your unit with full stock (complete stock rom, locked bootloader), your warranty is still valid. And due to European law, they cannot deny fixing the phone even if it has been tampered with. (but as i said, return it with full stock)
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Welcome to the 6P forum dude, I'll try to answer all your questions
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Mgrev said:
As long as you return your unit with full stock (complete stock rom, locked bootloader)
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Thanks very much for your answers!
Yesterday I've been doing some research here on the forums and on the Android Developers' website in order to avoid questions that have been answered in other threads already!
Everything about the 6P seems easier compared to the G4 (let alone the fact that there's no way to relock the bootloader on it - voiding the warranty for good).
The last doubt I have is this one: let's say I flash a custom recovery (TWRP for example) and then I decide to return to stock with a factory image... Will I be able to "get rid" of the custom recovery or will I have to do additional stuff to overwrite it with the stock recovery?
Thanks again and sorry if my last question has been answered elsewhere already.
The factory image includes the stock recovery so no problem there either. When you flash a factory image it resets everything to stock except for the bootloader, which will keep unlocked, but can be easily locked back through ADB.
P.S: Unlocking/Locking the bootloader wipes all data on the device (That includes internal memory) so if you plan to unlock it consider doing it before installing your apps and setting everything up if you haven't already. And also, flashing a factory image will wipe everything too, so keep that in mind.
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The factory image includes the stock recovery so no problem there either. When you flash a factory image it resets everything to stock except for the bootloader, which will keep unlocked, but can be easily locked back through ADB.
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Thanks again for your assistance!
At this point I can't wait for the device to arrive at my doorstep, I'm kinda impatient XD.
I have one last question if I may... I was wondering about encryption. Does the phone come encrypted out of the box? Does installing CyanogenMod (13 or 14.1) mean that the phone will be encrypted after the installation itself? Does decryption involve flashing a custom kernel or can it be achieved simply by flashing a factory image?
Thanks, have a nice evening. I won't ask for more, I promise XD.
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Thanks again for your assistance!
At this point I can't wait for the device to arrive at my doorstep, I'm kinda impatient XD.
I have one last question if I may... I was wondering about encryption. Does the phone come encrypted out of the box? Does installing CyanogenMod (13 or 14.1) mean that the phone will be encrypted after the installation itself? Does decryption involve flashing a custom kernel or can it be achieved simply by flashing a factory image?
Thanks, have a nice evening. I won't ask for more, I promise XD.
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The phone is stock encrypted. If you want it to not be you have to flash a non enforcing kernel and do a full wipe of data and storage. I'm sure there's plenty of guides on this. Encryption has little impact on the phone from what I've seen. And I've ran unencrypted most of the time I've had it and just recently went to encryption because I couldn't find a non encrypting when I installed the 7.1.1 beta. Factory images do force encrypt so I would flash the non encrypt before booting. I don't know if cyanogen encrypts or not, I haven't messed with it, I just run custom stock.
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Is there anything I should know about my new 6P?
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only one, the best phone there is and will be i guess?
i have had used Samsung phones before (s2 which was one of my favourite, and i often used aosp/cm based roms on it because pure android feel is the best) and i had the s5/note4 both were exynos which had ****ty support for CM , later on i went to get a snapdragon based s5 just for CM!
but then i decided to give a pure android phone a go, thats when i bought a Nexus 6 (but unfortunately it came with a banding in the display ,but i still used it without problems for 9months) and then i got myself the Nexus 6P and i can say this is easily the best phone i have used.
i look at other phones, i take them from the hands of my family members e.g the S7 Edge / Iphone 7+ when i used them for a bit compared to the 6p they are so meh.
i am so used to pure android phones now, plus you get a ton of roms to choose from and there are very good custom kernels and we are getting 7.x nougat.
you chose the right phone !!!!
one thing i would like to ask you, how long did the Lg G4 last you ?
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The phone is stock encrypted.
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Thank you very much. Well that was the last thing I had to know .
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one thing i would like to ask you, how long did the Lg G4 last you ?
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The G4 lasted me about a year. Now I'm stuck in a bootloop caused by a hardware issue and sadly my warranty is voided. But you know what, I'm kinda happy my G4 died... I've always had iPhones (say what you want about iOS and Apple, but excellent build quality on the hardware side), then I bought a Galaxy S6 (outstanding hardware and build quality, but ****ty TouchWiz) and sold it to buy the G4. The G4 satisfied me because I could flash CyanogenMod and so I was able to experience a smooth and clean UX, but its plastic construction always disappointed me (I am so used to metal and glass...). So, yeah, I decided to go for the 6P to have a "premium" build quality and to experience Android "as it was meant to be experienced".
I could've bought a Moto Z or a Pixel but both were too expensive for my pockets.
Take care!
I was in the same boat. I still had a Note 3 and was waiting for the Note 7, but we all know how that turned out. Then I was baffled by the price of the Pixel and still wanted a phone without bloatware for once, so I bought the 6p and it's not dissappointing so far.
I tried running stock first, but after 3 minutes I was already fed up with all the advertising being thrown towards me, so I went looking for root and a nice Rom.
I ended up with the PureNexus Rom and EX kernel. systemless supersu with suhide and rootswitch (don't even know if suhide is still doing anything), but I'm passing Safetynet checks, so all looks well so far.
Any special reason you want to go for CM? I have been doubting, but since most ROM's are stock based, I didn't see the need to go to CM, but I'm easily convinced by other people's good experiences to give it a try
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Thank you very much. Well that was the last thing I had to know .
The G4 lasted me about a year. Now I'm stuck in a bootloop caused by a hardware issue and sadly my warranty is voided. But you know what, I'm kinda happy my G4 died... I've always had iPhones (say what you want about iOS and Apple, but excellent build quality on the hardware side), then I bought a Galaxy S6 (outstanding hardware and build quality, but ****ty TouchWiz) and sold it to buy the G4. The G4 satisfied me because I could flash CyanogenMod and so I was able to experience a smooth and clean UX, but its plastic construction always disappointed me (I am so used to metal and glass...). So, yeah, I decided to go for the 6P to have a "premium" build quality and to experience Android "as it was meant to be experienced".
I could've bought a Moto Z or a Pixel but both were too expensive for my pockets.
Take care!
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To help you out with your g4. Try to warm it up in some way. I repair phones and we had a boot looping g4 that booted after we heated to maybe 180°F it managed to boot and we were able to keep it on long enough to recover the data from it.
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Any special reason you want to go for CM? I have been doubting, but since most ROM's are stock based, I didn't see the need to go to CM, but I'm easily convinced by other people's good experiences to give it a try
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Well the only reason I wanna go for CM is that I've been a CM user for the last 14 months on my LG G4. I've tried various AOSP based ROMs but I felt like CyanogenMod was the more stable and cohesive. I'm sure other ROMs have more 'hardcore user-friendly' features but I don't need them... So I guess I'm fine with a simpler and more stream-lined ROM.
Also: what's the best solution to avoid ads on the 6P? I used to install AdAway on my LG G4. Are there better options?
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To help you out with your g4. Try to warm it up in some way. I repair phones and we had a boot looping g4 that booted after we heated to maybe 180°F it managed to boot and we were able to keep it on long enough to recover the data from it.
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I'll try to do that as I've seen in some videos... The thing is I don't have any data on it (luckily). Also I've read it's not a permanent solution!
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Well the only reason I wanna go for CM is that I've been a CM user for the last 14 months on my LG G4. I've tried various AOSP based ROMs but I felt like CyanogenMod was the more stable and cohesive. I'm sure other ROMs have more 'hardcore user-friendly' features but I don't need them... So I guess I'm fine with a simpler and more stream-lined ROM.
Also: what's the best solution to avoid ads on the 6P? I used to install AdAway on my LG G4. Are there better options?
I'll try to do that as I've seen in some videos... The thing is I don't have any data on it (luckily). Also I've read it's not a permanent solution!
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Yeah. It is only a temporary solution.
corrx said:
Well the only reason I wanna go for CM is that I've been a CM user for the last 14 months on my LG G4. I've tried various AOSP based ROMs but I felt like CyanogenMod was the more stable and cohesive. I'm sure other ROMs have more 'hardcore user-friendly' features but I don't need them... So I guess I'm fine with a simpler and more stream-lined ROM.
Also: what's the best solution to avoid ads on the 6P? I used to install AdAway on my LG G4. Are there better options?
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Yeah, understandable reason. I have to say Purenexus so far is very stable with some useful options, so you might want to give that one a try as well.
For me Xposed has the best anti ad apps, so until that's released for Nougat, I'm also using Adaway and it's doing fine. Xposed has addons to also eliminate ads in Youtube and other apps, so this will work until then.
Have fun with your phone!
New 6p user here! 6p is a good phone, that's no doubt,
see you around mate!
I had a G4, I was so happy when I finally got rid of that thing. I went from a Nexus 4 and 5 then for some stupid reason bought a G4. Now I've got a N6P and am loving it. Easily getting 6+ hours of screen on time with Nitrogen OS + Kronic kernel.
Blindfold_NL said:
Yeah, understandable reason. I have to say Purenexus so far is very stable with some useful options, so you might want to give that one a try as well.
For me Xposed has the best anti ad apps, so until that's released for Nougat, I'm also using Adaway and it's doing fine. Xposed has addons to also eliminate ads in Youtube and other apps, so this will work until then.
Have fun with your phone!
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I see, thanks! I guess I'll use AdAway too until better options arise for Android N then.
Jason123420 said:
I had a G4, I was so happy when I finally got rid of that thing. I went from a Nexus 4 and 5 then for some stupid reason bought a G4. Now I've got a N6P and am loving it. Easily getting 6+ hours of screen on time with Nitrogen OS + Kronic kernel.
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6 hours? That's really nice! I'll give the ROM and kernel a try then, since the phone will arrive on monday (what a painful wait).
corrx said:
6 hours? That's really nice! I'll give the ROM and kernel a try then, since the phone will arrive on monday (what a painful wait).
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Yeah that is a long wait lol
Make an EFS back up using twrp recovery, save a copy of the backup file on your phone and on your desktop computer/cloud storage. You most likely not gonna need it afterwards but you'll regret not backing it up when you do.
Sent from my Nexus 6P